The Current Body Acceptance Movement Is Harming People’s Health

[@PrivateEquityGuy]

*Confidence is not walking into a room thinking you’re better than everyone, its walking into a room not comparing yourself to anyone at all!*

[@nakefatty9167]

Confidence is having wide shoulders and walking into a room sideways with everyone else knowing that you're better than them.

[@YasselAlvarez33157]

Confidence is realizing your value and potential as a human being, knowing more about ourselves feeds that confidence; and since this channel is mostly about bodybuilding here’s an analogy: if you can bench 220lbs, there are no opinions that can change that, and you know you can prove it at any time… that’s confidence.

[@YasselAlvarez33157]

@Mloyd Fayweather I was trying to explain what confidence is about, which it’s knowing what you’re capable of, your development as a person, strengths and weaknesses that working together the limitations keep on expanding by making us grow. Wisdom and skills build confidence and can’t be easily taken away, opinions can’t put a scratch on those but can help in many different ways to your advantage. The more we learn about ourselves as human beings the more value we can find and that makes me CONFIDENT. If I go into a room full of people I’d say Hello, let me speak to the manager. joke, don’t be a Karen.

[@Gfitstrength]

strongly agreed!!! its time for this country to get healthy physically AND mentally.

[@JustJulianH]

Amen

[@ivanvillalobos7734]

That is too hard. Why can't I just blast my personal life on the internet for attention?

[@livingminimumwage6359]

Any politician who proposes such a thing is attacked - regardless of political ideology. I'm not a Democrat but I celebrated Michelle Obama for pushing movement and healthy lunches for school kids. I also remember how villified she was for her attempts. This country is going down the toilet.

[@forgivemylaughterihaveacon2556]

For about a year I was content on being 299lbs cause I wasn’t 300 lol then I ballooned to 325 while powerlifting. Just got down to 200 even much more lean and working on getting to 185 with abs. Tell yourself the truth be consistent don’t get discouraged over setbacks and just keep going

[@fantasyjoe2771]

That’s awesome man, I lost 50 pounds in the last few years, trying to get abs now too. It’s though though lol. Best of luck to you on your journey

[@darkoale3299]

Fantastic Job! You should be proud.

[@Rawjalla]

I literally said “ooh shxt this finna b a good one” 🤣

[@alexanderalza5685]

Hope your videos reach much more people. One of the healthiest in all the ways and articulated podcasts out there! Keep it up guys! Will share this one for sure ...

[@MotiGQ]

I really really enjoyed this episode and you guys really nailed it! I’ve lost over 108 pounds and counting and the process and journey has been great and rewarding.

[@mirianinoa1964]

I was telling my friend yesturday that its so frustrating that the industry/community I love, can be so positive but negative at the same time. There are all these mixed messages out there and products that people dont need. I just recently re-certified in PT and I am so glad I found you guys. Due to all the mixed messaging out there, I asked my clients to please trust me and come to me with any questions because I know if I dont have the answer mindpump will. Thank you all for what you do!

[@julianbroughton]

This is the aspect of culture that I just hate. It tends to swing like a pendulum. There's never a balanced middle ground. It's always two extremes and constant overcorrections.

[@spikeboy101]

Same with politics, men and women, ideas. There's always a divide and some cases an extreme divide. When the truth is in the middle, balanced. Life isn't binary but people keep seeing black and white about things

[@JustJulianH]

Extremes sell in popularity. Inner peace usually does come somewhere in the middle though

[@spikeboy101]

@@JustJulianH Absolutely true

[@handler803]

Agreed. When it comes to fitness, I try my best to strike the middle ground. I dont see myself training constantly to beat myself up. Im not a fat slob either. Just doing whats enough to live happy another day

[@BrownBagga]

Best thing my wife and I ever did was admit that we were fat.

[@theentrepreneur8751]

Wishing you guys luck on your journey; well done for being honest with yourselves

[@anti-narc1343]

Then do something about it for God's sake

[@gearoidsheil9787]

@@anti-narc1343 I think that’s his point is that when they admitted it they made a change

[@BrownBagga]

@@gearoidsheil9787 correct, that was years ago. That’s why I said “were” and not “are”, for Gods sake some people need to learn English.

[@alldetected3106]

That's the first step. For me it was walking in the mall and just feeling like shit. Clothes didn't fit right, haircut was fucked lol, I was going through it

[@JustJulianH]

I’ve been saying the same thing for a couple of years also. There’s a very fine line between self acceptance and laziness. There’s an abundant amount of messages, especially on social media, that teeter dangerously close toward encouraging the latter.

[@edub_82]

Body shaming started from magazines and then instagram took it to a whole new level.

[@shaylamckay1174]

Agree 100% huge difference between being bigger and healthy and just letting your body go lol

[@shatrunjaymall8721]

Very good discussion. Balanced, responsible and empathetic perspective that acknowledges and approaches the issue from multiple angles. Thanks!

[@Baltic15]

These guys are fantastic. Open-minded. Intelligent. Informative. Helpful. Amen guys.

[@IsaiahHollins]

I noticed in the mall they’re fat female ads and fat female mannequins but not fat man lol

[@billybadass7718]

The mall? We don’t have those where I live anymore

[@PeakHealthAndPerformance]

I love how this video finished with a different perspective on success 💪🏽❤️😁

[@jonathangrimshaw5488]

Man this was a healthy conversation. I appreciate the perspectives

[@prtnrs]

Guys, absolutely great conversation, an honest yet empathetic take on this controversial topic. People get so split into extreme sides of this and it's due to the lack of consideration of the important points you guys are making here. Subscriber here already, but id subscribe again! lol

[@wiselistener4978]

Nothing feels better than getting your body right.

[@lombardo141]

It was all corporations. The majority of people are overweight now and those are the people that spend money. Follow the money to find out the problems in society

[@alabama.worley]

I love this. It's incredible to see people-a panel of men no less-using their platform to spread awareness, and battling bs media and marketing propaganda with pure truth.

[@Leggtyler25]

See I’d say I’m your average 22 year old I work out twice a week, work 40 hours a week and go to school part time but make time on the weekends for hobbies hiking,disc golf,fishing camping, riding scooter etc… I never wanted to be a body builder or get jacked I just wanted to stay healthy and that’s what I’m doing

[@knowledge_driven]

Any advice?? I am 5'8 and 290lbs? Should I lose weight or gain 15 pound's

[@sindilacion]

@@knowledge_driven i know im late, hopefully you've already lost the weight or maybe this a reminder to get startes on what you didnt finish these past 2 months. Lose the weight. You're severely overweight. You have so much fat that you could build muscle along with losing weight in general. You shouldn't gain a single pound. At 5'8 I'd at least try to get down to 170-180 depending on how you're built before even thinking about going on a bulk.

[@troygarman8864]

This all starts in childhood. We need to do a better job of parenting. Don't let our kids set in front of the tv eating whatever they want. It is hard to unlearn what we learn as a toddler. Get our kids outside and get them active.

[@jeromebernal7826]

Awesome content!! Keep it up!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@alldetected3106]

I don't need abs, but I want abs just to have them. It's more of a health thing for me tho.

[@bflbflbfl]

I think the line between beauty and health was blurred. Can an unfit person be beautiful? Of course. Cannan unfit person be healthy? Probably not.

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Said perfectly. Beauty and health aren’t the same thing at all.

[@michaelbashford2733]

Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder but health is a measurable thing.

[@SSchithFoo]

Roid junkies that look good arnt healthy either.

[@slorider1433]

Totally agree! I am an RN. Seeing obesity in my patient population has reinforced my own desire to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

[@geo525252]

Comfortable lies are easier to swallow than hard truths, and it's getting worse, not better.

[@supern0is349]

between "love your body just the way it is " and "eeryone that looks good is opressing me " there is a surprisingly small gap

[@nomaderic]

Everytime I try to talk to people about this im degraded into being a bad person At this point I just stopped caring so much because I know there's nothing I can do without it being flipped around to making it seem like I'm the one in the wrong.

[@chrischapman7026]

There is no good way to tell people to lose weight without coming out like a dick. If they ask for advice then you give it is what I’ve noticed after working out with lots of people and talking with them about their fitness goals. People usually change their goals every 6 months to a year so eventually they land on the idea that losing weight is a good idea. If the person doesn’t work out at all the only thing you can do is offer to workout with them cause anything else comes off as lecturing people. It’s stupid as hell but it preserves your friendships and keeps your reputation good

[@nomaderic]

@@chrischapman7026 yea thats understandable. I even have a close relative who has now gotten so obese he now has diabetes, sleep anea machines, etc. He's in his 30s but the way things are looking he won't make it to 45. I'm constantly trying to help, giving tips of little things he can do, and trying to tell him how much better everything will be if he just puts in a little effort. I'm still looked at as "always trying to lecture him"....when in reality I love you and I don't want you to die. If I didn't care I wouldn't say anything and I wouldn't enable you like the rest of the family does. But no matter how hard I try to help it doesn't work. Now I just accept the fact that he's most likely gonna die in the next few years and so I've started preparing myself mentally for when that day comes

[@joeford5181]

True. You don't need abs but you need a functional core. You don't need to starve yourself but don't over eat.

[@jullius.6433]

Factzzz

[@kc1973able]

Great post ✅👍👌

[@MellySkyWalker]

Thank you for this!!!

[@MomoSimone22]

I've never heard of Self magazine before recently, because this is the third thing I've seen on social media about it. I will continue to not have anything to do with them though.

[@jennaseaman8395]

I agree!

[@davidhayden1461]

If you watch the whole video from the start, you'll notice that at 11:43 he touches on how it's beneficial for them that this misinformation gives them something to set straight ..keeps em in a job etc. and they missed a fantastic opportunity to comment on how not only is it true of them but true of the publishers of the misinformation. It's a a cycle of near truths and misinformation that is continually discussed and continues to at least attempt to provide what is considered the objective truth for the majority vs subjective truths to minorities . A wise man once said, 'be subjective to oneself and objective to others.'

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

That term misinformation used far too loosely to hold any meaning. It’s basically lying and not being held accountable for being a liar…. This applies to EVERYTHING people want to throw the word at. You’re either a liar or you’re not. The work around for that label is when you disagree with a true statement just say “misinformation” and you’re all of a sudden credible regardless of the undeniable truths. Only in this digital space does this work and far too many refuse to disconnect. They bring it into the real world where the danger of refusing absolute truth can have real consequences. Like being so large that you should just be happy with the size and you’ve got nothing to worry about.

[@davidhayden1461]

@@hailtothe_rooster1572 I do think you're onto something. Theres a lot that is harmful in this world and the things that go unchecked like lying basically just can't be legislated against. And that's also the reason why the perception of it is not as bad as it should be. We really perceive things in line with laws and regulations. Lying about certain things can obviously be so damaging especially in the realm of health and nutrition. But facts change and science and data is everchanging so in all things we must act upon intuition and basically operate within a constant trial and error approach.

[@corycampbell4203]

Well said fellas

[@oneblackpaper]

I feel most of this backlash is borne out of the extreme and long standing health industry messaging that has been shoved down people's throats for decades. The worst messaging for years being "you are not worthy as a human being for being in a bigger body" or the classic "you're fat and disgusting because you're lazy". Have we stopped to wonder why people can be in a larger body, from real problems such as injury or depression? And then size isn't the greatest indicator of athletic fitness as well (look at Tyson Fury). Society has been tuned to ostracize and belittle people who do not meet some arbitrary 'minimum fitness or aesthetic'. The extremes are not good for both ends of course. Anger and backlash from both sides that is not conducive to reflection or debate of what is best for us long term. Nor celebration of either extremes of body types, both which flies towards real health risks. I think the real breakthrough will come from empathy, with the next generation of fitness trainers approaching fitness and health in way that undoes all the damaging messaging received in the past.

[@siddharthrath8482]

Body positivity won't stop your blood from clotting

[@SirKanti1]

Body Acceptance Movement should be about not judging people based on their body and not discriminating against people (ask a fat person how they were treated after they lost weight, for example).

[@mikaelh366]

That thumbnail too😆😆

[@MikeWilliams-is5yj]

Off topic but I wanted to run and idea for a fitness app by you guys, not your typical app but one for using in the gyms for machines, the gyms are packed with so many people in the new year, what if we had a reservation app that you could select 5-7-10-15-20 min sections for machine/racks and get in line with reservations for time slots so you don’t waste your time waiting or have someone beat you too it, we do it with food/restaurants🤷‍♂️ or is it madness, thanks ♥️

[@Outsider_aa]

I just shared this video, and yes, someone got offended just by the title

[@renswillems8584]

The is real, real talk

[@faradaystpete5683]

The mentality of not taking personal responsibility is a cancer, but one of the ways you can show empathy is to take what we call in public health an “ecological approach”. There are other factors that contribute to obesity in addition to personal choices (availability and affordability of healthy food, the convenience of low quality food, food deserts, personal connections to cultural cuisines, depression, family history and genetics, sedentary or stressful jobs, etc.). The cards are stacked against people who struggle with obesity. It doesn’t take away from personal responsibility, because that is included in the ecological approach, but we can also advocate for systemic change and not put the entire blame on individuals. It’s a both/and type of argument.

[@knowledge_driven]

Any advice?? I am 5'8 and 290lbs? Should I lose weight or gain 15 pound's

[@shanedpain7734]

Body Acceptance is s'posed to be about people who have missing limbs and scarring, NOT about body shaming fat people.

[@shanedpain7734]

(Edit- PROCESSED)Sugar is the most addictive and most used drug on the planet...

[@stvinney]

I think there's a way to educate people without making them feel like there's something wrong with them And yet it's actually hard. Some assholes take it too far and they absolutely make people feel like shit because they're overweight Those people sometimes build up a wall that keeps the good information away. They don't wanna hear it but thing is, a lot of them are putting in some work. Just a few doable tweaks could really change the way they feel.

[@rebekahadrian487]

"We live in a free country - at least right now we do." 👀11:53

[@323johnnybravo]

Now days people who workout and look fit / buff are the ones who get judged and ridiculed.

[@ProgShell]

Adam's seeing through the matrix.

[@gnperdue]

Obesity is also driven by how dysfunctional our food system is in the US. We need to make it easier and more convenient for people to eat fresh, whole foods, and easier to avoid processed junk. We stuff corn syrup into EVERYTHING and that is a big part of the problem. As it is, you have to go out of your way, or spend a lot of money to eat clean. We should be subsiding organic vegetables instead of highly processed sugary foods full of industrial seed oils, etc.

[@trippcannon4627]

Big fax

[@Vegeta009]

Sal with the dead shirt!!!

[@andrewdurand3181]

I wanted to write the author of the article "The Relentless Reality of Anti-Fatness in Fitness." The starting anecdote described a trainer who was condescending toward their client sure. The client assumed that they were treated this way because of their body type. The author called this anti-fat bias, which was a stretch. It was clearly body type condescension though. But this is not the same as being anti fat. Calling it anti-fat assumes a person's motives are the worst case which is problematic. But let's also have a little sympathy for the trainer. The overwhelming majority of clients are coming to them for weight loss reasons. It was lazy to assume this on this particular trainer's part, especially when it was noted otherwise, but it was not a stretch to assume as much. Really, you have a right to be annoyed, but let's not dwell on it. Plus, just because you do endurance work doesn't mean that extra weight you carry is not going to give you problems down the road.

[@HkFinn83]

Here’s what’s super destructive about this; there really are kids who are horribly bullied for being overweight, and it’s awful and damaging, but those people who are bullying people now look more reasonable when compared with these extreme silly fat accepting people. It’s like the people on social media who think everybody is racist and sexist. All they do is make themselves and their ‘cause’ (which obviously has legitimate aspects) look ridiculous.

[@kstoeb]

Isn't it possible to differentiate a carefully? IMHO nobody should be ashamed about their current body; but some should be concerned about it Just because it is in their own best interest. (I'm not a native speaker so I hope I've put my thought in the right words.)

[@sergiosantana7103]

By definition, a person can only feel shame if they themselves fell the act is foolish or wrong... think about that... if you do feel ashamed, it's because YOU KNOW it's foolish or wrong...

[@kstoeb]

@@sergiosantana7103 You definitely have a point there. (As I mentioned: I think I‘m not able to discuss this sensitive topic in a foreign language in an appropriate manner. So I better leave like this.)

[@daveua1]

Which one of y'all plays guitar?

[@stevendamian2871]

"A lot of them I'm sure are good people" lmao

[@ChildofGod_365_always]

An interesting discussion, though seems to be lacking a socio-economic lens. Not everyone has the privilege to consistently access "healthier foods" or fitness equipment. The government can play a role in regulating the food industry for the benefit of all our health. The medical sector also has to take some responsibility. The fact that most doctors know little about nutrition and fitness is a problem. This needs to change.

[@saldistefanomaps]

Not true at all. It’s LESS expensive to eat less calories and activity requires zero equipment. This is a huge myth.

[@UR_AL_SHOOK_UP_21]

Working out is good for ur health eating good is good for ur health its so simple we need to stop over complicating this 2+2 is 4 ..the people saying being fat is healthy are the same people that say 2+2 is 100 they wanna live in a different reality

[@mysticalbeast7808]

The only movement without "movement"

[@graydawg6949]

You guys need to get Dr. Andrew Huberman on the show

[@NeerujSethi]

I think that the message is fine but the body they chose for that Thor ad is also destructive. If they just showed a guy who was in shape but not on steroids, that would be fine

[@truedoloans]

I bet the ceo, editors and prob the person who wrote the article work at self magazine work out and eat right lol

[@knowledge_driven]

Any advice?? I am 5'8 and 290lbs? Should I lose weight or gain 15 pound's

[@musikinspace]

Body acceptance is not healthy, but bodybuilding is far from the healthy response to it. Unfortunately, much of the "health" industry is plagued with bodybuilding methods and mentality, like, for one example, everything being aimed at folks who want to push themselves to unhealthy single-digit body fat levels.

[@HereForFun98]

They’ve talked about this on other episodes.

[@thetonymasters]

1000%

[@marymccabe5829]

I completely agree with you about the body positive movement and love your content but really could do without the biased, ignorant generalizations and pushing of hate toward one group. No, I am not a snowflake but I cannot stand a total lack of thinking and the pushing of hate. Aren’t we as a country going through a lot of negative? Why add to it? For now I’m out

[@knowledge_driven]

Any advice?? I am 5'8 and 290lbs? Should I lose weight or gain 15 pound's

[@IceColdProfessional]

Swole-shaming is more of a problem than fat-shaming.

[@amessina6691]

We're getting dumber, fatter and lazier by the minute. It's spreading like cancer. I don't see it getting better, it's only going to get worse. It's sad.

[@smolkafilip]

Eating disorders and body dismorphias get way too much attention. Its fucking hard to overdiet or overtrain. Very few people can actually push the intensity and duration of such pracitces into dangerous territory. Meanwhile, 75% of the population are overweight or obese. Over 100 000 people die of obesity related complications every year in the USA. The last thing American society needs is to tell them "hey, at least you are not dieting excessively". And lets not kid ourselves, that is what any press relating to eating disorderes, models being too skinny, fitness people fitnessing too hard etc. does. Just look at the comment section under any mainstream media article on the topic, its full of fatties patting themselves on the back for at least being better than "those people".

[@GG-kp1hb]

The body acceptance movement is lacking some serious fine print Sure love your body, but understand that you should probably spend some considerable time learning to “love“ ill health, chronic disease, chronic pain, disability, and shame. Because for real real, there are limitations to primary care and even acute care, limitations to what any of them can do to help you once you get sick. Seriously though, once you start feeling the effects of obesity or your body finally can’t handle it (high blood pressure, diabetes, immune system issues, injuries) there are no quick fixes or relief. At best, medications that you’ll have to take for the rest of your life to HOPEFULLY manage your symptoms, and even then that relies back on YOU to adjust your lifestyle to ensure to take your medications as prescribed and don’t exacerbate the issue with more poor lifestyle choices and behaviors. At worse, you develop progressive/incurable illnesses (ex: heart failure) and are facing your mortality prematurely.

[@blurpydurpy6239]

Bruh look like Tony Robbins with a smaller head

[@NAVEENCHAURASIYAA]

Definitely this will only benifit the medical industry

[@MM-ug5ec]

They're trying to condition men to find large women attractive, so women don't make any effort these days. It's all part of this 'big is beautiful' rubbish. Men need to stop simping for these women and have higher standards.

[@VeI_2.0]

Get the Snake diet guy on! :)

[@omp365]

a total of ZERO political movements are about what they say at face value.

[@marcrose3403]

Overweight people shouldn’t be bullied n also shouldn’t be celebrated

[@HasiMustafa]

Adam is so mad 😅

[@Palefeast]

fat acceptance revolves around Alpha seeds and Beta needs

[@Braddaddyx]

:-D "just earning 90k a year" :-D the maximum i ever earned was 24k a year and i worked a lot for that!!! That is the difference living in a socialist country :-D

[@GlacialScion]

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[@smokejaguar986]

You don't have to be a yoked bodybuilder to be healthy and you can't be a lardass either just find a good middle ground

[@knowledge_driven]

Any advice?? I am 5'8 and 290lbs? Should I lose weight or gain 15 pound's

[@smokejaguar986]

@@knowledge_driven cut calories and move around

[@adoseofnirvana3090]

Of course. Pharmaceuticals, health insurance, general medical practice is a multi trillion dollar industry. Just look at the past 2 years. “Stay inside,” “Don’t see your family on holidays,,” “wear a mask,” “get vaccinated.” Nothing about getting in better shape, losing weight, eating healthier, taking vitamins/supplements, working on mental health, etc. If you can’t see through the matrix, I genuinely don’t know what to tell you.

[@jkarpov3634]

Y'all are so wrong...CPAPs and Heart Disease are sexy af...lol

[@heisensperg9264]

The left - "We're the side of scoience" Also the left - "obesity is healthy" and "men and women are interchangeable"

[@ThePugpop]

running a ton of gear is also harming your health

[@knowledge_driven]

Any advice?? I am 5'8 and 290lbs? Should I lose weight or gain 15 pound's