THE CUSTOMER IS WRONG ABOUT THE PLUMBING | REAL WORLD PLUMBING

Real world plumbing right here, the customer was wrong about the Radiators being a straight swap and Boiler heating and radiators in this property were drained before i went to the job so ive never seen it working so thats always a worry. However we replace the radiators and see if it will fire up and get hot.
Also in this video it shows just why you need to always make sure what your quoting as the rads on this job were bigger so pipework has to be altered
#plumbing #boiler #heating
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[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Always always make sure the job is what you quote for….😉😉 Get subscribed if you’re not and pop me a comment below and let me know your new to the channel….😉👌🏼

[@Rob-ru1dh]

Hi Mark watch all your videos not a plumber but learning alot my son passed away 3 years ago and might sound silly but I watch videos like yours its company for me sounds like your here talking as on my own waiting to see if I can put a towel rail in bathroom from housing keep videos coming cheers

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thankyou buddy…. And sorry for your loss….🙏🏼

[@Micktheadventurer]

What a beautiful thing to read.

[@CommercialGasEngineerVideos]

Thanks for sharing. Blessings to the family

[@Liverpool1ne]

All the best mate I’m sure many do the same 👍🏻

[@garywateridge]

Take care,hope it works out for you.

[@aaronlawrence5346]

Great video mate!! Really enjoying them! Can’t wait till I am qualified to jump in!

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it

[@danielraglan7237]

Why not just sweat elbow off and turn it 90° and then elbow up ?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I didn’t want to risk sweating it as there was no play in it and the skirtings couldn’t come off… wasn’t worth the risk

[@yvonfem]

I hate working with 10 mm plus those reducers are terrible prone to leaking .i prefer to put a 10 to 15mm

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

10mm is a nightmare

[@shaunwhite2081]

Only fittings I'd use. We call them toggle bolts another nice job. 👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

They are spot on👍🏼

[@andrewhayes4914]

Yes toggle bolts and the tool used is a toggle puller

[@chlalew]

The last rad, could you not just sweat off elbow and put a new one on 90 degrees and either another elbow up to valve or a 10mm sweep bend up to valve? Would mean soldering up at skirting, but it can be repainted if necessary.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I didn’t want to risk sweating it as there was no play in it and the skirtings couldn’t come off… wasn’t worth the risk and the customer was aware of how it was going to have to go👍🏼👍🏼

[@johndevlin980]

Lovely job as usual Mark 👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks John

[@andrewhayes4914]

I think I would have sweat off the 90° bends also that last one looked as my old boss once said like a f@##%£& dog's hind leg and he would say get it out do it again real world plumbing !

[@liammx9966]

Toggle fixings Mark, come in handy

[@johncford3957]

We call them the same here in Canada, they are used on drywall as well as thin wood wall coverings.

[@davehunter6920]

how do ya know you're not wrecking the close solder joints on the 10mm?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Comes with time and knowledge…. Never ever had an issue 👍🏼

[@louise2467]

Love your videos and sharing. Some great comments below too. Every days a school day. Wonder why not just get a new boiler though when spending out on a nice new interior as it looks like something from a museum!? Bet they have to replace it within a couple of years anyway. False economy.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I know what you mean, however at least where it is it can be swapped fairly easy

[@fireblaster9961]

That last rad piping looked a bit pony with all the bends and wonky pipes

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Like I said in the video…. It had to be done with what I could work with due to not removing skirtings etc….. Real World Plumbing

[@TheScottelias]

I hate hanging them rads. Don’t fancy doing a vid on how you get the brackets in the right place?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Pain ain’t they…… I think I’ve done one, will double check

[@tompyrouk4335]

I call them umbrella fixings. Most trusty for plasterboard walls.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep…. Perfect name that

[@baracus901]

Heard them called intersets and wall anchors too

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Intersets 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@russellthomas9391]

What was the labour costs for those 4 rads - im guessing you were there most of the day , thanks

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

What would you think???…..

[@tirvplumbing]

I like the bullfix fixings for plasterboard. Radiators look lovely. 👌

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate…. Yep they are mega 👌🏼👌🏼

[@hufartd]

Column rads get timber behind every time, Get someone else if you don’t want to pay to do that way.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@chrisholt2474]

Hi Mark, a nice job there the column rads are looking good, I have used those fixings in the past and I’ve not had any problems with them. As we say, the 10mm pipe is always a pain, I’ve got a job to do removing all the 10mm copper and re pipe the system in 15mm copper. I’m always happy to see 10mm pipe being replaced, have a great week and take care, regards Chris. 👍👍👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hey Chris….. yep 10mm is a right pain to work with….

[@killercabbage1276]

Why couldn't that pesky rad connection be sussed by sweating off the elbow?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I didn’t want to risk sweating it as there was no play in it and the skirtings couldn’t come off… wasn’t worth the risk

[@killercabbage1276]

fair dos chief, just had us puzzled was all :) @@MJTiffPlumbing

[@MrSTUPIDBRICK]

We call those fixings toggle bolts, dont think its there proper name mind and they are probably the best plasterboard fixing I've used. With that last rad, I think I would have sweated the elbows off instead of double elbowing on top of the existing elbows, would have been a bit neater. I agree though its difficult to make 10mm look good.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I did think that but no play at all and if it went wrong or had an issue it would have been a major issue getting the skirting off etc. Customer understood that I had to do what I did

[@painterman8863]

Fischer do a plastic toggle called duotec ,which are better imo mate. Enjoyed the video, mate

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Will take a look👍🏼

[@RoyalFlush28]

Personally I’d use a 10x15mm reducer with a bit of 15mm into the rad valve. Worst problems I’ve ever had at work have been with 10mm reducing sets 🙈

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Always many ways to get the job done👍🏼

[@RoyalFlush28]

@@MJTiffPlumbing sure is buddy, but my ways better 😉😛😂

[@happiplumbing7188]

Hi Mark back in the day they were marketed as spit fixings

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I think I’ve heard that before

[@jasonsimpson-ks8un]

Hope you are well Mark I always use those fitting on plasterboard walls have used them on 1800mm x 700mm never had any call backs got my gun of ebay £4 99 new was a game changer Nice video

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Great ain’t they 👍🏼👍🏼

[@daveperkins1616]

Been using the hollow wall anchor fixings for years they are good and easy to install with the setting tool just don't buy the very cheap fixings the threads strip easy then you have to drill them out to change them.I only use the rawlplug ones they are not much more to buy but much better quality.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks for the advice Dave 👍🏼👍🏼

[@SteveN-pw4dj]

I used those fixings in Sweden, but you don't need to use that gun... Just tighten the screw it does the same thing, then take the screw out again to fix your item.... One less thing in the van.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

The gun stops the body spinning in the hole….. I get what you mean but using the gun locks it in so much better I think👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼

[@SteveN-pw4dj]

Ohh, the ones I got in Sweden had a kind of hook you lightly hit it with a hammer and it gripped the plasterboard. But anyhow love watching your vids and have had some good tips from you 🙂

[@liveloud9894]

@@MJTiffPlumbingYeah it can completely mess up the fixing and rip the hole to shreds if you try to spin up the bolt with a drill / driver instead of crimping up with the gun first 😂

[@waynehardiman5443]

Great video mark all that work I never understand why people don’t spend money on redoing the boiler and pipework but do everything else.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hahaha…. Very true……

[@johnwaby4321]

Great job there mark . I have been using those cavity fixings for years and you get a good size range from M3 mm to M6 mm They work great 👍👍👍👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

They are very good buddy👍🏼👍🏼

[@lduncombe3]

Good job your not on new builds tiffty...WHERES YOUR SOLDERING MAT!!! HSE WOULD BE CREAMING OVER THAT "plumbing police we got him now boys" 😂

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

If your good at soldering you don’t need a mat😉👍🏼 Did 10years on new builds when I started….. no Thankyou

[@lduncombe3]

@MJTiffPlumbing exactly mate too much bullshit these days stopping tradesmen doing there job! I agree new build work is shocking!! Did 8 years now moved into the council multi trade, No pride in the work anymore and you end up picking up other people's shit for a wank price!! Glad your own path in life is working mate cracking channel and work 👍 would love to work along side you for a day mate no cash or strings attached just purely to gain some knowledge and see new tricks of the trade if you didn't mind...no stress if not I understand pal 👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate, Appriciate that….. yer I did some council work aswell back in the day, can’t get some real crap work with that🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lduncombe3]

@MJTiffPlumbing your welcome mate your work speaks for itself 👌 sound like we had similar paths in plumbing haha but yeah really old systems aswell espically in tower block of flats ☠️ plus tenants not having any hygiene for the home if you get what I mean which makes the job 10x harder

[@ronnierobinson1502]

What thermal image camera is that matey??

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

HikMicro Pocket 2 👍🏼

[@reaper5222]

I've had 4 K3 rads fitted in my house - lucky have proper brick and plaster walls. One of the K3s is 80Kg empty - wonder if the bullfix would handle those on a plasterboard wall? With lower flow temps becoming the standard, bigger rads becoming more common to give the same heat out.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

K3’s are soooo big… proper last resort radiators imho. I get the whole output thing and future proofing but how ugly are they!!!

[@reaper5222]

Not sure they are even made right. Understand why they put the inlets same position as on a K2, so it's an easy swap, but they are just a K2 with a third panel welding to the front, so the last panel to get any heat is the front one. @@MJTiffPlumbing

[@eddiereed5025]

belt and braces floor mounted brackets if you have kids like mine sitting on rads

[@Jammydodgers41]

They do ones called bulldog fixings? Has anyone used them?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I used them years ago and couldn’t get on with them tbh

[@glyndavies591]

Have seen lots of rads falling off walls due to bad fixings the ones you used look just the job rads look neat another interesting video

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Proper solid with these fixings Glyn…. Very impressed

[@paulsmith2931]

Remember that video you did 12 months or so ago when you were advising people to hang rads with the easy fix spiral fixings, good to see your now using proper stronger fixings on plaster board for rads.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hanging a light towel rail on spirals isn’t an issue….. you wouldn’t even dream of putting heavy colum rads on them👍🏼👍🏼

[@jacko2815]

Best plasterboard fixing it find is the rawplug metal ones. Bout £4 for a 20 pack but super strong

[@tkthebear984]

Hi Mark, those rads look lovely, if I was the owner I think I would have taken off the skirting for that big rad where you had to put in a couple of elbows it would have looked better. A wood burner in a flat I’m surprised the lease allows that. I reckon you will have to go back and fit a rad where you capped it off, unless the flat has really good insulation. Nice video as always 🙂👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep that’s why I’ve future proofed it with the compression. Customer didn’t what to be removing skirting’s etc as it was nearly all done

[@jamesnoct]

Love how everyone has their own name for those fixings. I have always called them lantern fixings as they remind me of those paper Chinese lanterns you used to make at school

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yer I see that…… Dave says elephant and someone has said umbrella 👍🏼👍🏼

[@JR-1983]

Cracking job demonstrating how to get around issues and working with what you have 👍🏻

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy….. exactly how I wanted people to see it. It’s dealing with what we have…. It’s not picture perfect but it’s what was needed👍🏼👍🏼

[@zakariyahjeewa7565]

Love how you cut that copper pipe in 2 seconds 😂👌🏽😮‍💨 ! What pipe joint compound would you recommend for cornex fittings and gms pips because I've seen you use a few over the years. Love the vids btw👌🏽

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Tbh most pastes are pretty good, I don’t have a specific go to

[@richardaird2880]

Nice vid Mark. The only comment I would make (I don't like doing this) The last rad you connected up (The biggest Rad) the left hand connection, I would have turned that existing elbow that was coming out the wall, 90 degrees to the left, popped a short bit of 10mm pipe in and a 90 degree elbow straight up into the rad. It would have looked tidier. But hey ho...as you say 10mm never looks great. Hope you didn't mind me saying 👍👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

A few people have said this however I had zero room if it didn’t go to plan, no play in the pipework and the skirtings could not come off at all if for any reason an issue occurred…. Wasn’t worth the risk as the customer knew I had to deal with what I had….👍🏼👍🏼

[@richardaird2880]

Duo tec fishcer plasterboard fixings. Very good but expensive! Good for heavy loads though. Just saying

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@rickhoyle671]

The words "straight swap" should be confined to the same bin as a "quick job" an "easy job" and "just a day's work" when spoken by a customer.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hahaha soo true

[@steveyboyXRP]

hung the rad inch to low measure twice lol

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

No I didn’t lol

[@eddiereed5025]

cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear those skirting boards are horrendous and could not live with them like that a good joiner cold fix that 100%. Sweat off the 90s and fit 45s would have looked better

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Didn’t want to risk sweating them off as I had zero room for any issues if they happened…. Sometimes you have to make a decision

[@blackdog5560]

Hi mate, plumber from down under here-nice neat job as always, we have those fixings in Australia as well. The manufactured boy a large company called Ramset(previously thought they were actually a proprietary product) and Mark’s tool is known as an anchor setting gun… I don’t use anything else now

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hey buddy….. great to hear from you down under…. They are brilliant ain’t they

[@deanmiles8421]

Do you not use the fisher fixings? They are great I always use them. Impressed that gun doesn't jump, tried loads and they always packed up, now have a fiscer brand one, no problems after 3 years

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Will take a look👍🏼👍🏼

[@pilotstefan1322]

Hi mark, 2 things, 1) charliediytv channel did a strength test on plasterboard fittings which is worth a watch, the spring toggles were one of the best for heavy plasterboard fittings.2) for compression fittings do you prefer v2 plus over fernox white hawk and if so why? Cheers

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

No I didn’t see that mate.. will have a look. TBH either works well

[@adrianhoneybill8591]

Your issue with the rad blanking in the living room....Thermaskirt from Discrete Heat would be a better option for the whole room.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Customer wouldn’t of wanted to upheaval of fitting that… but I know what you mean buddy

[@richardlewis5316]

In spite of the customer saying that they were having a log burner I would have 'strongly advised ' that they should have a rad at the other end of the room opposite the bay window. Getting in after work they will want a warm house without faffing about lighting a bl***y fire!! But of course the customer is always right!!

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep the customer is right… it’s there home

[@johnboy2984]

Hi Mark. Nice job for you this one was. Nothing that you couldn’t handle. You would think the smaller pipe would look better but you’re right it doesn’t look good. Nice job mate have a good week 👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks John…. Nope the 10mm is a right pain to work with

[@bigdmed955]

Where you said they will have to cut the drawer out, you can get shallow 32mm trap or in severe circumstances you can use the very flexible waste connector and put your own scoop in it too create a water trap, trust me I've had to do this plenty on the new cabinets when the existing waste cannot be relocated. Never had an issue with the latter. But you do need to tell clients not to move it around😂. Although if it is free flow the worst that can happen if they do is that they get a breeze up through the pipe😊

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@liveloud9894]

Toggle fixings or probrolly fixings as some people call them and I think the tool is called a molly , original and best I reckon

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Deffo mate

[@dmarriott9701]

Are the rads reversible, so the inlet would be ok if the trv was mounted as existing (vertical). Just wondering.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yes these work fine

[@thomascoyne157]

Those elephant feet for the plasterboard you can just use a screwdriver to wind them in have used them a few times I like Little ten mm Manifold I wish speed fit would make a 15 mil Manifold but nice work on the ten mm pipe work .👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼

[@SteveHit1]

Blimey, Dave’s pipework was pretty impressive! However, I don’t think he would have done as good a job as you did on those rads! Great video, thanks.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Dave’s plumbing is spot on to be fair 👍🏼👍🏼 Glad you enjoyed the video mate….

[@keithcampbell7214]

Hi Mark another great video. I’m not a plumber, is there an advantage in using 10mm over 15mm pipe on a heating system or is it to do with the age of the system as to when it was installed?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

It’s an age thing mate…. They did it a lot years ago…. Would rather remove it all to be honest but it’s all a cost

[@martinwarner1178]

I've had a teenager somehow pull/sit on a rad. and get it hanging off the wall, and that was on thermalite blocks, so good luck with that fix in plaster board. Great videos, always. Peace and goodwill.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

They are solid buddy👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@richardwilliams8953]

One of my pet hates......other trades singing like they are even good at it!......Thats what the radio is for mate!!

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hahahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AppleOranges12]

Thes hollow wall anchors are ok although for something as heavy as column rads,, I'd use Geefix oe Bullfix which has a larger diameter circular plug and a bigger clamping area

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

These were perfect for this 👍🏼👌🏼

[@scotspie501douglas7]

just love your videos mark I have those 10mm pipe in my home office bobo should have got someone to make them 15mm to the radiators before the flooring went down

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate….. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@gavinbiard3745]

I use brown Gripit for plasterboard. They’ve never let me down mate.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@StephenJ87]

Brilliant fixings those, the only ones I’d trust anymore! Keep up the good work 🍻

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Sooo solid

[@pauljenkinson2870]

Is that a old baxi solo

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep…… wasn’t sure if it was going to be ok

[@WayneHoward-v7z]

I'm sure you'll ignore this comment much like unilite have with my email ,buy there lights are shit, won't stay on when connected to mains. £150 for a bag of shit

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Why would I ignore you….. Drop them a message on Instagram mate…. They will sort it along as you’re not going in with aggressive comments in the message buddy..

[@tonymurff5234]

Brilliant video Mark, Your keeping it real and making it simple to follow for the Fans 👍👍🤜

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks Tony…… Appriciate that

[@deanmiles8421]

I saw some smart ass punch 2 holes in the cap of inbib bottle, works quite well

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

🤣👍🏼

[@Lord-Brett-Sinclair]

Great work as always . Log burner in an upstairs leasehold property ? Not see that before.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Who said it’s leasehold??

[@themagpie_1]

Hollow point fixings. its all i use..

[@themagpie_1]

for PB or lathe..

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@peterwagstaff2715]

Do think there's any advantages in putting flow in top of the radiator

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Apparently that’s the most efficient way to do a rad

[@edmundeverett2938]

Great video, Mark. Thank you for taking the time to make and share it 😊👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy….. your welcome

[@phowied]

Those fittings are called molly bolts.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

So many names for them👍🏼👍🏼

[@jonesconrad1]

Whats your thoughts on the Aladdin auto vent valves ? put them on my house been great but take a day or so to clear.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Don’t think I’ve heard of those buddy….. have you got a link

[@jonesconrad1]

@@MJTiffPlumbing It won't let me post a link, it keeps deleting it.

[@ciananmchugh410]

Can u get 10 mm Street bends would of been handy

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Would of been very handy

[@deano6017]

great video mate. Used those fixings loads never had an issue.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Spot on ain’t they👍🏼👍🏼

[@Simpilotrichy]

Recently replaced and re situated all my ground floor rads with inspiration from your channel Mark. All went well and no leaks (so far) 🫣. Loving the content 👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Nice work mate

[@130unleashed]

Bless the chippy. man said “ is it leaking “ 🤣

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kendom33]

Thanks Mark. That was very interesting.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Glad you enjoyed it👍🏼👍🏼

[@philiphillier7588]

That tools called a cavity interset tool

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@tonyclark9851]

A fanny trap will sort that vanity unit

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@aaronlawrence5346]

Hi mate, what paste is that you use?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I use a few different ones… this is V2 paste I think

[@INFLICTEDPAIN213]

Does your chippy have a channel?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Not yet…. Maybe he should

[@WayneHoward-v7z]

I know you won't reply

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Chill out mate…. I have replied👍🏼

[@SuperWayneyb]

🤘😎🤘🫖☕️🍪

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Evening Wayne👍🏼👍🏼

[@SuperWayneyb]

@@MJTiffPlumbing Evening Buddy 🤘😎🤘

[@Heatking]

Molly gun or skelly gun ❤

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Amazing gun 🤣🤣👍🏼