The part Starlight applauded Twilight for zapping Dash was what killed me. Who needs villains when the heroes can do their job.
@StrategicGamesEtc9 жыл бұрын
+animegx45 Or when Twilight had to try and stop Starlight from preventing bullying. ... It makes sense in context. (cf. TVTropes.org/main/itMakesSenseInContext)
@JCBro-yg8vd9 жыл бұрын
+animegx45 That is what we like to call "Nice job breaking it, hero."
@animatedvoice64259 жыл бұрын
Starlight was being so petty there.
@Demonya9 жыл бұрын
I loved the different timelines and artistically did anyone else noticed the different colored tints with every different timeline. But the last timeline was probably all the villians had a clash of the Titans style battle and that's why the world was in ruins.
@thinaxanel3789 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that as well.😺
@BNuts9 жыл бұрын
+yurichan99x13 Think about it: without the Mane6 to wield the Elements of Harmony, Nightmare Moon banished Celestia to the moon upon her return. Then Discord got loose and toyed with NMM a bit before getting bored. He turned her back into Luna, brought Celestia back, and turned them both into clowns. Then he got bored again and wandered off. Without the Royal Sisters Chrysalis takes Canterlot much more easily, leaving Ponyville and the Everfree as some of the last hold-outs. But ultimately Zecora's resistance is victorious. Before Equestria can fully recover, however, Sombra and the Crystal Empire return. By this time Celestia has gotten free of Discord's control and she organizes a defense. Despite this, Sombra takes about half of Equestria, and everypony has to keep contributing so he can't take the other half. Even with Luna recovered, they can't spare the time to search for the Elements of Harmony, the Crystal Heart, or Cadence without further help. Which is where Discord decides to lend a paw / claw / talon / hoof. This could go either way, but it reconciles all the timelines we've been shown.
@RaulDiaz-mp8ms9 жыл бұрын
+Ben N (BNuts) Totally mind-blowing and a very nice way of connecting them, but you forgot some things. 1)Tirek's and the flimflam brothers part in the timeline. 2)Rainbow's different styles of hair and wings. And 3)There is no three!
@2b-coeur9 жыл бұрын
+yurichan99x13 Ohhhh, I was wondering what that last one was!
@thatguydownthestreat9 жыл бұрын
+yurichan99x13 Since you said that, it does bring up the biggest problem I had, and that was where where all the other villians? ESPECIALLY IN THE FLIMFLAMPOCCALYPSE! Of all of the futures the only one I saw as actually being possible is that one.
@ShadyDoorags8 жыл бұрын
I had issues with Starlight being able to fight against an alicorn. Not only an alicorn, but an alicorn whose special talent is magic and who studies magic for a living. The last time we saw Starlight, she was shocked that Twilight easily blocked a spell she had studied for years. After seeing that, and knowing what we know about Twilight, it's asking alot to have me watch Starlight completely confuse Twilight with new spells just because she's been gone for a few months.
@godzelda1239 жыл бұрын
This episode was reMARKable
@denisnevsky37349 жыл бұрын
+Godzelda123 que rim shot
@thatguydownthestreat9 жыл бұрын
+Godzelda123 the pun is "RE-MARK" , not just "MARK"
@Manfromthenorth05519 жыл бұрын
Get out of here Barbra... (Roosterteeth reference)
@rebeccaliar98739 жыл бұрын
My favorite timeline was the Crystal War, partly because it looks at a facet of war we rarely think about, and partly because Iron Wing and the Demolition Crew.
@jkseraphim49 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! It reminded of World War Two. Apple Jack reminded me of Rosy the Rivvet. I think someone should do a fanfic about the crystal war.
@rebeccaliar98739 жыл бұрын
***** There's a few already out there, and I'm working on one myself. Look for Iron Wing and the Demolition Crew, coming soon to Fimfiction. Also, in that brief shot of the train station, there's a Rosy Rivet poster on the side of the station.
@halojoe219 жыл бұрын
+Nathanael Unger The timeline that got me was that wasteland. I was like "Please sneak in some sort of fallout equestria reference in the background" The whole scene.
@jkseraphim49 жыл бұрын
Nathanael Unger ok. Thank you. I didn't even see the poster.
@daraghokane42369 жыл бұрын
Hasbro should have made this episode a video game. Good story lots of Bosses. The game can start with you free rooming ponyvili enter castle to start first level and each timeline is a level
@ErikOlsonAZ9 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite moment was when Starlight convinced the bullies to stop picking on Fluttershy and makes Twilight look like a terrible person for wanting them to pick on her. That's when I thought, "Wow, you're good at this."
@WRPBullet9 жыл бұрын
So now we're back to two earth ponies, two Pegasi, two unicorns, but this time we have our main alicorn. This should be fun, but I swear if Starlight gets a throne at the map before Discord their will be hell to pay!
@silvermoon55839 жыл бұрын
Finally the balance and equality is restored!!! I only now realize the irony in that.
@CrowRider19999 жыл бұрын
Oh~,I would LOVE to see the eternal hell that would break loose from that.
@deathlegionair9 жыл бұрын
+Jon “WRPBullet” Marlow Chaos and Order????
@ladyvenusdragon9 жыл бұрын
+Jon “WRPBullet” Marlow I hope in the next season we get an episode with Starlight meeting Discord. That would be pretty funny to see how they get along like how he gets along with the others.
@WRPBullet9 жыл бұрын
+deathlegionair Ying and Yang
@HippoPig21_is_awesome9 жыл бұрын
I love how ironic it is that the group has *equaled* out with 2 of each race, plus an alicorn leader.
@2b-coeur9 жыл бұрын
+HippoPig21 *sigh* that's not ironic... Ahem. i·ro·ny1 ˈīrənē/ noun the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect. "“Don't go overboard with the gratitude,” he rejoined with heavy irony" synonyms:sarcasm, causticity, cynicism, mockery, satire, sardonicism "that note of irony in her voice" a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result. plural noun: ironies "the irony is that I thought he could help me" synonyms:paradox, incongruity, incongruousness "the irony of the situation" a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character. noun: dramatic irony
@thatguydownthestreat9 жыл бұрын
+Erulasse Aranel hmmm Maybe Hypocrisy?
@2b-coeur9 жыл бұрын
thatguydownthestreat Well, but I think hypocrisy's more like when you say one thing and do another...
@thatguydownthestreat9 жыл бұрын
Eh, if nothing else it is a peculiar situation.
@2b-coeur9 жыл бұрын
***** At least with irony, there's so much controversy over the word already (and it's a pretty complicated definition, what with the three types and all) that trying to explain it myself, I'd probably make a mistake or not be clear enough, so it was safer just to post the official definition. Hypocrisy's been edited to my own explanation.
@JaffaArchfiend9 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Twilight, Sunset and Starlight all in the same room having a chat about magic... all three of them are/were students in the magical arts, and all three of them working together on a magical project
@immortalLoserRatedRbrony9 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad that the mlp staff looked at the scenario with "If the rain boom didn't happen thing." and exceeded my expectations. Also a great way to end the season.
@eltsoldier9 жыл бұрын
My favorite moment: Starlight's sarcastic clap-clap-clap and _priceless_ smile after Twilight accidentally freezes filly Rainbow Dash in a crystal. Absolutely. Perfect. ^^
@SuperGodzilla29 жыл бұрын
this was a freaking amazing episode, this whole season was awesome, i will say that i was bummed that we didnt see a 6 way war between Celesta, Discord, Nightmare Moon, Chrysalis, Sombra and Tirek, all battling each other of control for Equestria, oh well still was amazing, i do hope to see of Starlight Glimmer this was an awesome review Doc, please keep up the great work
@nullamor79929 жыл бұрын
I can actually connect with Starlight on this level. Almost all the friends I have made have moved or just up and left me. I kept trying to make friends though and I have some of the greatest group of friends ever.
@cuteskeleton93819 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of hoping Starlight turns the mane six into the mane seven because it be like a breath of fresh air by having a new addition, plus the group will finally be balanced out. 2 Earth ponies, 2 Pegasai, 2 Unicorns and one alicorn as the leader.
@platinumknight19359 жыл бұрын
Story of Starlight One friend moves away => Never gets to make a new friend => Starts to Believe in Inequality => Wants to create happy place for her to live => Puts so much work into it that she goes paranoid about someone ruining the harmony => Controls everything => Our Town => The Mane 6 comes in and ruins it => She takes revenge, makes Twilight sufferer for what she did => Than finally realized her mistakes, that she can take a new path to make friends and have a new life. I say Starlight was amazing villain. Because think of it. The mane 6 created a villain!
@CanterlotCrusader9 жыл бұрын
Seemed pretty bad when she brainwashed a town before that to me.
@lonewolf68849 жыл бұрын
+Next Channel Games And that is why she should have been kept the villian,but no MLP:FiM can't do that. If you're a villain you must be redeemed
@KinakoIshiyama9 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Paul We only have four redeemed villains. Queen Chrysalis was sent flying, Team Rocket-style, Tirek was sent back to Tarturus, the Sirens lost their powers forever, and King Sombra DIED! Oh, and...Principal Cinch just...ummm...failed...yeah, I don't know what to say about her. ^_^;
@Manfromthenorth05519 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Paul Chrysalis Sombra Tirek They are still villains.
@totof23279 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Hilliker Didn't Sombra died ?
@RockandStoneVForKarl9 жыл бұрын
Think about this, when sombra made his army, you can see a little pony in there.. Sombra made children go to war Y-7 MY ASSSS
@AHurdOfBronies_9 жыл бұрын
I like to think in this episode that the backstory for Starlight, the reasons she ended up creating the village, were sort of rooted in deeper meaning and just not available to be picked up by just scratching the surface. That is what I think caused a problem for many people who viewed this episode. There were these subtle plot hints that were hidden in the flashback that one would need to find and take in consideration in order to realize how much of an effect the event could have had on Starlight, such as how she and Sunburst look very duo-like in color-scheme, cutie mark, or just the central theme behind those elements. It's like they were another version of Celestia and Luna. With this, it might have contributed more to how big of a feeling of loss that Starlight had. She wasn't just losing a friend. She was losing _her_ friend. She was losing _the_ friend.
@jenniferb38989 жыл бұрын
My favorite scene was probably the pie sisters breaking the rock as well. It's cool to see that Pinkie became strong like Maud by staying on the rock farm.
@sonicgen209 жыл бұрын
I really hope Starlight is added as a main character in season 6. New character with lots of backstory to be explored, new character dynamics to be created, and perhaps new lessons that can only be taught through Starlight. So many possibilities! As for all the plotholes concerning time travel well I could spend all day talking about how it doesn't follow the rules of time travel or the inconsistances of Spike not vanishing from existance or Nightmare Moon somehow being reverted to Luna without the elements of harmony but I guess that just something that comes with most time travel stories. But besides all that stuff dealing with nerding out about how time travel works otherwise I really enjoyed this episode, I'm also really surprised that Josh Habor wrote these episodes, you know, the safe writer from season 4, he's definitely improved alot since then.
@EnigmaPrince1019 жыл бұрын
This was a great way to end season 5 of mlp. Starlight was a really entertaining and decisive villain, with a somewhat-lacking reason to her actions in her backstory, but her mastery to magic is unparalleled by her craftiness. The Alternate Universes of Equestria was AWWWESOMMMME, and Sombra's future was the best one....................just..............WOOO!!!!!!!!!! I'm not so ready to let Starlight be a part of the M6, and I think that she should do some sort of time for what she did overall. Just being forgiven like that really irks me a little, and overall, I too can't wait for what S6 of MLP:FIM has in store for us!!!!
@taddad26419 жыл бұрын
+Enigma Prince would say that tiwlight is more powerful than her, cause alicorn, but she would be on par to tiwlight as unicorns. as a amgic user, she is extremely gifted in crafting or altering existing spells. tiwlight is a good magician but she is better at quick learnign than making her own.
@MikeDragon9 жыл бұрын
I don't really have many words to describe how I feel about these episodes. I loved them, obviously! And as Dr. Wolf said, there's little to nothing to complain about them. But although I don't really know what to say I do know I have one thing in mind I am struggling to understand... We all know Twilight is really powerful, with or without a boost in her magic powers (as seen on the fight against Tirek) but just how powerful is she, really? Or rather... how powerful is Starlight? I mean, seriously; WHAT EVEN IS THAT PONY?! I won't say Twily was getting her tail handed to her but she certainly was barely keeping up against Starlight on their magic fight! And flying with only levitation magic? How come Twilight never thought of that? Man. I was NOT expecting Starlight to have so much magic in her! She's way more powerful than she appears! If she truly joins the Mane 6 for future episodes as Dr. Wolf suggested she might (I honestly wouldn't mind! I wouldn't mind at all!), she certainly should be a great addition to the team! She definitely has the magic power to be a huge support for Twilight and the others. At least when it comes to the need of magic. On a side note; am I the only one who found Sunburst's design freaking adorable? I want to see him in future episodes. Especially a re-encounter with Starlight. Those two need to mend their friendship and Twilight and her friends sure will be of great help towards that. I'm pretty sure what happened between them was just a big misunderstanding on Starlight's part. At least it seemed that way. Can't wait for season 6!
@2b-coeur9 жыл бұрын
+Mike Dragon YES! I agree: Twi should have been able to defeat any other pony easily... Seriously, Starlight should've been at Celestia's School easily.
@AlexTackett19989 жыл бұрын
+Mike Dragon I'm guessing it has more to do with experience,as starlight is older,and thus has had more time to practice and perfect her magic.It could be in the same way harry potter is extremely powerful,yet remus or sirius,who are older and have used magic longer could beat him
@animatedvoice64259 жыл бұрын
To answer your question Mile Dragon, Starlight's power came many years of studying magic. Remember the ending she said something along with "I studied magic for years how can you....." In the premiere. The reason she's so powerful is because she didn't have any friends (distractions from study as she saw it) made her hown her skills as much as possible for her spiteful ambitions.
@RedDragonForce29 жыл бұрын
+Jordan Cueto Not unlike a certain unicorn with glasses that idolized Twilight despite them being the same age.
@AlexTackett19989 жыл бұрын
you can idolize someone if they're the same age though
@WarDocx9 жыл бұрын
I was gasping and excited the hole time, but that last shot of everyone right there, blew my fricken mind.
@sadlobster19 жыл бұрын
What really surprises me...is how fast the season seems to have come and gone. Hopefully, we won't have to wait long for Season 6. Do you know what would be astonishing...yet wishful thinking? Well, we have had loads of special guest stars from celeb voices who are members of the community, right? From Weird Al Yankovic to Lena Hall, more recently. Well...here's an idea for guest characters. How would the community react if Lauren Faust, Meghan McCarthy and the Main Gal herself, Bonnie Zacherle (the original creator of MLP) popped in on the show? Imagine seeing and hearing their OCs on the show?
@theflotingheadproduc9 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome! *w*
@jackanderson75329 жыл бұрын
hey if they do come back it would mean that this generation of mlp will be ending. but if thing like this would happen at least it fun to see you all.😄
@thatguydownthestreat9 жыл бұрын
+sadlobster1 Would be pretty funny to see, maybe an april fools episode featuring the Staff OCs and Fausticorn
@jackanderson75329 жыл бұрын
+thatguydownthestreat hey it would be fun to see it and it will give us a smile
@saltedcaramel93629 жыл бұрын
+thatguydownthestreat Oh, please not an April Fools episode. It could be done right, but from past experiences I don't think it would. Besides, if you had no idea who they were you'd be so lost. You could argue it'd be the same with Slice of Life, however, I think the kiddies know way more about those background characters than we credit them, especially with all their previous guest appearances. I have several neighbors with kids who are always talking about Derpy and such. But I don't know anyone but the hardcore fans who've got internet access and actually care about the creators that even knows about them. It would be nice the throw them in at some point, but NOT in that scenario.
@tristanmilner95119 жыл бұрын
The real highlight of this episode *IS* the alt timelines. More Zecora and Celestia? Loved it! The downside is the ending. Starlight STILL committed brainwashing and possible kidnappings and should server hard time for it. Her redemption is too quick and does not resolver her of her heinous crimes. A few decades of moontime banishment will teach her good or she can join Terik in pony hell minus her horn. I really hate her, can you tell?
@miniman6499 жыл бұрын
+Tristan Milner I think that may be a bit harsh, considering Luna also nearly laid ruin to Equestria two times without punishment for her actions (return as Nightmare Moon and Tantabus). Just saying, we could punish a lot of ponies for their actions if we start now.
@tristanmilner95119 жыл бұрын
I don't count the Tantabus as they stopped it in time. Nightmare Moon, no defending that.
@miniman6499 жыл бұрын
Tristan Milner it was still her creation and therefor her responsibility. Anything the tantabus did bad, should Luna be responsible for.
@tristanmilner95119 жыл бұрын
But not to the same level as brainwashing an entire town for who knows how long?
@rcecile9 жыл бұрын
+Tristan Milner But not to the same level as letting your negative feelings take you over and want to turn all of Equestria into an eternal nightmare? 1 worse than brainwashing, one you don't count as bad but still bad. And then brainwashing. I also have a feeling that Starlight didn't actually force that many to unmark themselves. She's seen to be very good at manipulation.
@vectorbrony34739 жыл бұрын
War. War never changes. When the shadow from the north began to sweep across Equestria, it did not take long for the ponies to take up the spear rather than the plowshare. With their Princess leading them down this path of war the country soon turned to industry and technology as their saviours. The war would slowy strip Equestria of its precious resources and lead them to wars with the zebra nations across the sea for their precious coal. Soon the prophecyof fallout Equestria would be fulfilled. Because war never changes.
@PrinceUniversa9 жыл бұрын
+Vector Brony You did not just do that mate...
@DiceWarwick9 жыл бұрын
+Vector Brony I was thinking something similar. That hole part was a Fo:E goldmine.
@vectorbrony34739 жыл бұрын
Kenzo Grimes Forgive me I couldn't resist
@PrinceUniversa9 жыл бұрын
Vector Brony Technically I couldn't either 'cause I was about to do so until you beat to the punch :D
@RyGuy4TwinsFan979 жыл бұрын
+Vector Brony YES! YES! YES! YES! YOU ARE AWESOME!!! You made my day man. Thank you.
@darabounds66719 жыл бұрын
the first alternative time line was by far my favorite because it had so much more time to flesh out the horror of that world it was equestrian war! a simi-cannon war! it was just so awesome to see fan fics come to life on the show but that that one was my favorite
@loneXolf9 жыл бұрын
I guess Twilight learned Talk No Jutsu from Naruto Kappa //.
@TheIndigoEclipse9 жыл бұрын
Nightmare Mooooooooon! So good. I guess it proves that Nightmare Moon/Luna has the power to change pegasi to bat ponies. Notice Rainbow Dash's new bat wings.
@miniman6499 жыл бұрын
Honestly. I can without a doubt or even a moment of hesitation say this is the best season finally to be created in this show as of yet. There were so many awesome things in this episode, good story, good characters, decent pacing and just all around awesome episodes and anything that can be said negatively about the episode can mostly be blamed on the time-limit and even then the other season finals have the same flaws, just worse. Starlight was amazing. TWilight was amazing. Spike was awesome. Any character was good and well-written and all the different timelines was just a pleasure to view and bring some really dark implications to the show as a whole. My favorite part would be the Sombra scene with the mind control of the Crystal Ponies, that leaves some dark implications to something like that may have happened in the past under his first rule.
@silvermoon55839 жыл бұрын
I also liked the nod crystal empire part 1's flash back at the beginning of the scene
@jsfilms66239 жыл бұрын
I couldn't tell if I was watching a fanfiction or an episode.
@jsfilms66239 жыл бұрын
+Gareth Myers Yeah, when I heard that the timeline changed and that the crystal empire took up most of the map, I was like "...Wait, it can't be...Sombra?" I also acted the same way when I saw the hint to Nightmare Moon "...No...Impossible!" I sat there on my seat silent most of the time in awe at the things I was seeing.
@silvermoon55839 жыл бұрын
JS Films I think everyone react like that to at least one scene in the episode.
@Churchaddict7779 жыл бұрын
That was my favorite finale so far. I really wanted to see more of Discord's timeline come to play, but that clip enough is gunna mean a lot of fanfiction I will happily write or read.
@ToughTheWigglytuff9 жыл бұрын
While I did mostly enjoy the episode I think the ending sucked and Starlight was forgiven too easily. And you can't even use "it's for kids" excuse with this one since the episode had more than one war and a future which heavily implies everypony DIED.
@melloponytail22969 жыл бұрын
I agree, it did end weridly, but hey in the end the finale was interesting. A new main character.
@RedfurredPikachu9 жыл бұрын
+ToughTheWigglytuff One of the main points of season 5 that anyone even people who were complete jerks could change and that you should always be the bigger person and give them a chance to prove themselves. True some people just can't change in the end, but if you don't give someone that chance then your only helping the mistake happen again.
@CrashJakFan19949 жыл бұрын
+ToughTheWigglytuff About Starlight Glimmer being forgiven too quickly, the most harmful thing (if you want to call it harmful) she's done in the regular timeline was trying to control people. She didn't kill anyone, but she was willing to take any punishment given her actions.
@Frozen_Death_Knight9 жыл бұрын
+ToughTheWigglytuff While I don't think that the ending completely sucked, I agree that it has some serious flaws to it. Starlight was forgiven way too easily considering the serious implications of her actions upon the entire world. While I don't think she was completely irredeemable since she had a hard time accepting the outcome of changing the past, which was an understandable character trait in this case; being that close to destroying the world is still not something that should be brushed over so easily. Instead of having that song about friendship the ending should have focused on Starlight actually attoning for her actions as a lead-up to the next season where she starts improving her stance with the mane 6 as well as the village at the start of season 5. Just to draw an example from Avatar: The Last Airbender. Zuko, the villain in the first two and a half seasons, tries to redeem himself by joining the main cast to end the war that was going on. A bunch of the episodes after him joining focuses on him trying to prove himself to every main character which in the end helps truly redeem Zuko in the eyes of the characters and the audience. This is what should have happened with Starlight and it would have improved the pacing a lot in the end.
@DiceWarwick9 жыл бұрын
+ToughTheWigglytuff how I see it, this was diffidently a three part story, with the fist two EP's about twilight trying to find a way to defeat Glimmer, and the third about here putting a plan together to stop glimmer. but it was till realy good, it just sucks that there is time restraints.
@Templar1279 жыл бұрын
Season 5 is now my all-time favorites! It has everything, good animation, good writing, though some episodes were weak. But it clearly shows the staff's true potential in making a great show! Here's to another season and the upcoming movie! :D
@averieknight39279 жыл бұрын
If the main 6 didn't get their cutie marks from the sonic rain boom then shouldn't they have changed their cutie marks each time she went to a different future?
@taddad26419 жыл бұрын
+SharkDiscusses ...... actually that is not implied in the slightest. its clear the xperiences cause acutie mark to pop up and be shaped. also you have ot take into account that the timelines often discluded the primary entity who would have remained if the mane six were not there; nightmare moon. also take into account Zecora's comment about how they are not supposed to be there. It seems that twilight kept on going into mangled timelines, those who exist yet not logically, short of the nightmare moon one. We even had one where luna had returned as luna and not nightmare moon, and was fighting discord. they were all unsatble, and were not supposed to exist, as zecora points out, nad likely never were afterwards. Least that is the most logical explanation i can find using the show's concepts. It was ultimately a paradox again.
@taddad26419 жыл бұрын
***** well think of this. nothin the tree has provided them is Fated, its created. destiny is a creation, not a force. also its illogical to think that. hwo would beat nightmare moon? Celestia, who is weaker? Chrysalis, who is too reliant on a trick and an unknown power up to beat said weaker entity? and why wouldn't this powerful being or force be involved in the fight against the villains too, and or be the ones in charge? these timelines being corrupted and damaged makes more sense.
@7Seraphem79 жыл бұрын
+Rainbow Shy Or the animators simply didn't want to go through the effort of making all new cutie marks for them, and just used the existing flash puppets. They did tend to try and hide their Marks a lot.
@sarowie9 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Smith What about the CMC? if their destiny would get changed, would they still get their shared shield?
@7Seraphem79 жыл бұрын
Really, I just figure it's a animation limitation, they didn't want to bother making all new Cutie marks for the other five. After all, why else would it be called "The Cutie re-mark" when, not one pony actually gets a different cutie mark? Kind of a minor annoyance I have with the ep.
@WorkingonTwos9 жыл бұрын
Well I have to say that I loved the season finale though like you I wish they had had more time to explore all the alternate timelines and how the mane six developed without the sonic rainboom. Oh well to the realms of fanfiction for all of that. While I thought Starlight's redemption was rushed I really liked the reveal of her backstory. It's another one of Applebloom's nightmares come true where a friend getting their cutie mark ended a friendship. And I really felt a connection to her line "He got his cutie mark and I didn't! He moved on and I didn't!" It can hurt so much to see friends achieve things and move on without you, the jealously and hurt that can build up as you wonder why you aren't as good as they are. That could even add to Starlight's desire for revenge on Twilight. Perhaps she studied and worked just like Twilight did on her magic, thinking that if she showed talent like Sunburst she would go to Canterlot too and they could be friends again. Then the day comes when she gets her cutie mark and nothing changes. For whatever reason she doesn't study at Celestia's school. Then Twilight, miss perfect princess, prized magical student with her friends who all got their cutie marks at the same time comes along and takes away the one thing Starlight has built? No wonder she got angry enough to seek revenge and not care that the whole world fell apart due to her actions.
@ArnMLPs9 жыл бұрын
I think the desert-timeline, is actually the timeline where Starlight won and made everypony equal. Who do you think won in that timeline?
@CanterlotCrusader9 жыл бұрын
The theory is, when everyone has their cutie marks gone, and their powers with it, the princesses and unicorns can't control the sun and moon, destroying crops, leading to famine and death.
@Oban20069 жыл бұрын
+ArnMLPs Madd Maxx
@DiceWarwick9 жыл бұрын
+ArnMLPs it was the Fo:E timeline, and that was the wasteland.
@adamlatosinski54759 жыл бұрын
+ArnMLPs Parasprites ate everything.
@ArnMLPs9 жыл бұрын
DiceWarwick No, because Fo:E is set in the Future. This was the present. Parasprites can't be it. They never got defeated if they would eat that much, they would have eaten the forest long ago.
@faris7949 жыл бұрын
I can actually relate to starlight to a degree. I once tragically hurt my only friend when i was bullied in elementary school, and I had no way to cope with it except create false fronts and fake happiness so I could prevent any new grief, but that did nothing for my current(well past now, but you get the idea) grief. Eventually that lead me down a slippery slope to severe depression, and it was not until I realized how much support was shown for me was I able to speak up and receive help. Honestly, that was the best choice of my life, mostly cause if I took a different road, I would not be here today. But as similar as the reactions to losing an only friend during a time where a good coping mechanism goes, at least I did not go completely psychotic as a result.
@craftyarts74319 жыл бұрын
it felt like a fanfiction... AND I LOVED IT!
@RosieSievers9 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this finale, especially seeing all the alternate timelines with fan favourite villains return including Chrysalis and Tirek and seeing the real reason behind Starlight's schemes in this episode and the Cutie Map because she had a fear of losing a friend after they had gained their cutie marks and Twilight taught her that she can make friends as her friendship with the Mane 6 is strong because of their differences. And Starlight being a new friend of the Mane 6 and being Twilight's new apprentice is a great concept and I can't wait too see what happens next. Bravo Josh Haber! 10/10 I give this finale. And season 5 is by far my favourite season with season 4 at a close second ^^
@nikolesn2759 жыл бұрын
This was the best season finale ever! All the cameos were so fun. I was hoping to see Fluffle Puff with Chrysalis, but my favorite arc was with Zecora. The final scene had all the fan favorite ponies! I can see it now- Discord cane vs. Twilight cane!!
@chibinekogirl1019 жыл бұрын
Guys, hey guys, remember Magical Mystery Cure? Remember.... Remember what Twilight's cutie mark looked like once she descends as an Alicorn? The.... the extra white star? 6 White stars around the large pink one? Catch my drift yet? ^^
@DadiocolemanOfficial9 жыл бұрын
But how did Spike know what Starlight looks like? He was playing goofball during the premiere.
@DadiocolemanOfficial9 жыл бұрын
Hoofball*
@finnanima24133 жыл бұрын
Twilight could have told him.
@SuperCaptureDevice9 жыл бұрын
The way you described Starlight's past made me immediately think of Emi Ibarazaki and Hanako Ikezawa from Katawa Shoujo: loss of a close relative (or friend, in Starlight's case) due to an accident and the horrid memories that come with it. Her rage is equivalent to that of Hanako's Bad Ending where neither are looking for pity. Her demeanor is like that of Emi, a Stepford Smiler who uses happiness to cover her past and keep her true emotions close to her chest.
@m4y41233219 жыл бұрын
3 complaints. 1: it felt rushed. But since they had to fit everything in 45 minutes, you can't really blame them. I wouldn't have minded to see an hour and a half movie with this premise. 2: Instead of having different timelines for the different villains, I wish it was one continuous timeline for all of the villains. (This would have actually helped my first complaint. It didn't really make sense why there was one villain at a time. When sombra came back, why wasn't discord there? When chrysalis was in her own world, why wouldn't tirek intervene? This was my biggest complaint, because it would've been really easy to make one timeline. Instead of grabbing the scroll when they went back, starlight destroys the scroll. This wouldn't have been a problem, if the multiple universes didn't feel like an afterthought. Wasted opportunity. Diamond dogs? 3: It broke the tradition. Season 1 finale: no fight. Season 2: fight with chrysalis. Season 3: no fight. Season four: tirek fight.
@SHSLRuby9 жыл бұрын
Tradition is a stupid complaint and it mainly sounds like you're just trying to nitpick for a third complaint. The others were pretty legitimate.
@Oban20069 жыл бұрын
+Doctor X No, hes right
@shadowwriter45389 жыл бұрын
+VEN Productions Complaint 2 is understandable. I was always wondering why this villain or that villain was and why they weren't taking over Equestria or trying to conqueror it. At the very least, I always thought it would be either Nightmare Moon or King Sombra that would take over the most. How is that the changes to how the rainboom not forming cause all those other slight changes like that. Just stopping the rainboom should have caused either Sombra's future or Nightmare Moon's future at the very least; theirs seems more likely to happen. I would say Discord's future, but I have a feeling Nightmare Moon and Sombra are more powerful. I honestly wanted to see a future where it was King Sombra and his Queen Nightmare Moon; I would pay to see that. Complaint 1 is understandable too. But they have a short time limit so there's not much they or anyone else can do about that. It's a nitpick that is always understandable. Complaint 3 is just dumb
@davidweiss24079 жыл бұрын
For reason 2 it might be because the villains were defeated by someone else (maybe Celestial). We saw in the Discord timeliness both Luna and Celestial were there so it is possible that in some timelines Celestial managed to turn her sister back to normal or at the very least retrap her. It is all just speculation, but there could be a timeline where all the villains fight one another or possibly even team up.
@katmanxrocks4449 жыл бұрын
Who needs tradition? Now Twilight is an alicorn it's an excuse for rainbows and explosions and random fights with villains! XD
@sleeplessknight72719 жыл бұрын
I gotta say! I was blown away by this episode! Seeing the different alternate timelines was pretty interesting! And, yes, I welcomed Starlight Glimmer into the group just as I welcomed Sunset Shimmer! Hoping for Season 6!
@madisonboone16559 жыл бұрын
Hmm... Pinkie Pie and Applejack are Earth Ponies... Rarity and Starlight are Unicorns... Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy are Pegasi... So that means........................... Twilight and Discord are the Alicorns of the group
@mel.jo.029 жыл бұрын
Discord is best princess
@Webkinzrox987659 жыл бұрын
The different timelines were pretty cool, and the fact that ALL the season premier/finale villains(+ The Flim Flam Bros.) got their own timeline was equally awesome(no pun intended)! Starlight's redemption did feel a bit rushed, but when ISN'T that the case in MLP? All & all, this was the BEST way to end a season so far, an can't WAIT to see what happens next!
@SuperGodzilla29 жыл бұрын
i think you ment to say Nightmare Moon got in the Moon Light XD
@colinferguson81819 жыл бұрын
Did you know the ending of the Friendship Games foretold this episode? End of Friendship games Equestia Twilight said she was busy with time travelling/loop. So does this mean that Equestria Girls universe time runs a bit faster than the main MLP universe time, if one watches the series and movies chronological order of release. Also.. just how long was Twilight and Spike time hoping? a few hours? days? WEEKS?! Some food for thought. Love your work Dr Wolf.
@spotpz9 жыл бұрын
Rather than see her start new friendships with the Mane Six, I would have preferred to see Starlight reunited with her childhood friend to find that he never forgot about her and the friendship never really died. That would have shown her that her friend's cutie mark wasn't what got in the way, but rather her own hopelessness in giving up on the friendship. That also would have avoided the awkwardness of those new friendships at the end.
@Fawnheart9 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Or, better yet- since they were already mucking around with the past with a spell that seemed to reset the timeline each time it was used- why not just tell filly Starlight that she can still write to her friend or take her for a visit to see him? No lost friendship = no villain Starlight. Redeem her before she was ever "lost" and finally put a new spin on all these villain redemptions while still having it be about friendship.
@Oriko-Magica9 жыл бұрын
Well seeing as she'll probably be a more prevalent part of the show from now maybe the writers want to hold off on that and make it its own episode.
@day52099 жыл бұрын
I love Starlight's sarcasm through the whole episode. Also, the expressions during her redemption are what made it beliavable, so good job there animators. Looks like 2 episodes are in my top 5 favorite episodes, so that's probably my favorite season so far.
@ConorCarlisle9 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the episode up until they had Starlight Glimmer become yet another "reformed villain". I'm all for characters achieving redemption but the trope is getting really old in this show. Starlight Glimmer is the 7th Antagonist who has repented and become a friend of The Mane 6. It's a crutch for the writers at this point.
@it_Nexus5629 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the concept of necessary violence isn't that pushed upon in this show. Though if I was in Twilight's position, I would have killed Glimmer at my first chance.
@hrafnkelloskarsson63039 жыл бұрын
+This Guy um... killing her is a bit harsh like she didn't kill any one and she was hart broken from the loss of a friend so the best course of action is showing her friendship. after all the show is called friendship is magic and not reforming her is going agents what the show stands for
@it_Nexus5629 жыл бұрын
hrafnkell Óskarsson I can understand what you are saying, but i will always believe in necessary violence as a last resort. Still, good job on Twilight for doing what she did.
+Carlisle the Cinephile Diamond Tiara is a bit of a stretch. She was an antagonist of the CMC and now allied to the CMC, but she has barely any relation with the mane 6.
@ZonagonsBlackKnight9 жыл бұрын
Elements of Disharmony. Starting with the Alicorn Amulet as Dark Magic. That's all I want.
@SlyCrunchy9 жыл бұрын
The episodes were great but starlight better actually have a personality because all I saw was pushy over bearing child in grown up clothes.
@hrafnkelloskarsson63039 жыл бұрын
+SlyCrunchy i think she is suffering from a case of depression like she has all the elements to that being the case
@DarkMageDragon9 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the alternate time lines, and I really liked how different the mane six looked, especially Rainbow Dash in the Sombra war! And I especially liked that big group shot at the very end of ep 26, that just felt great!
@CanterlotCrusader9 жыл бұрын
Honestly don't know about Starlight. On one hand, she was probably the best villain in terms of getting what she wants:revenge. She followed Twilight for a while in secret, manage to rework an old spell, planned for Twilight returning to stop her, managed to outlast Twilight in battle to get the end result, and was the most smugest villain the show has ever seen. *slow clap*. Also, not beaten by Rainbows. She stops rainbows. She just knows what to do. On the other hand, her motivation is WEAK. You should be happy your friend got the opportunity to go to a good school, not give up on your social life and blame cutie marks. I get the this kind of thing happens in real life, where kids grow up with resentment over isolated incidents, but what happened to her isn't even that she got rejected, bullied, or handicapped because of cutie marks. She never tries to get a friend again. Please, work on these psychotic issues.
@CanterlotCrusader9 жыл бұрын
All in all, I liked Starlight as a straight up villain more than the pony. It's hard to say that, but with a backstory that weak, I can't feel too sympathetic for her. I still want to see more of her though and she is an interesting character. The episode, minus the ending, was awesome!
@n00bGurl9 жыл бұрын
+CanterlotCrusader Thank you. You pretty much summed up my issue with Starlight. Also her unexplained mary-sue-esque magic talent as well as her quick as heck character turnaround after getting talked to by twilight.
@CanterlotCrusader9 жыл бұрын
Harsha Boyilla Yeah, I can imagine it, because it happens all the time. I moved away when I was little and had to leave my wonderful friends forever. I still wonder if my life would've been different had I stayed. I also had to leave all my friends in high school because we all went in separate directions. Point is, I didn't form a cult, do drugs, or try to screw up the world. People forget how common leaving friends behind is, but the lesson Strarlight learned is that it shouldn't stop you from making new ones. Something she should've learned YEARS ago.
@taddad26419 жыл бұрын
One thing that took my notice in this epsideo especially was what Zecora said. That they, the ponies in her timeline, should not exist. There are a lot of holes. Largely the fact that the primary entity who would be left unchallenged had the mane six not come together is Nightmare Moon, yet we do not see her excep for her own part. It makes little sense that Sombra would be fighting Celestia, as nightmare moon would have returned before then. I think that statement by Zecora is the answer though. These are aberrated, unnatural timelines. They are what ifs when ti comes to villains, yet on the other hand they are logically flawed, because they were formed in a hapahzard fashion. In a sense they were not real. And the timelines grew more and more unstable each time, to the point that we had flim and flam destroying equestria somehow. They were false equestrias, each one ending when twilight returned, but ever threatening to make themselves a reality. From worse even. Character thrown into situations with mangled reasoning in how they progressed. So all these timelines ceased to be thankfully, so no one is suffering. But who knows what may have occured if Starlight had no stopped.
@BiscuitDelivery9 жыл бұрын
Incoming fanfiction.
@Manfromthenorth05519 жыл бұрын
Duck and cover people!
@BiscuitDelivery9 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hilliker Run away. Run far, far away and never return.
@equestriantechies17019 жыл бұрын
+Vengeful Spirit Here comes the demolition squad!!
@jsfilms66239 жыл бұрын
Alright then!
@BiscuitDelivery9 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, guys, I'm on it. *puts on sunglasses*
@BlueStarBrony9 жыл бұрын
Once again congratulations on getting this out so fast! I think my favorite villain was Nightmare Moon since at least for me she was the most fun. Although it seems like she gets scarier with every time she reappears. Got to get this out of the way, Celestia leading a army and fighting directly herself shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, or at least anyone that has been following Celestia's character as presented in the show and not the Bronies Anti-Celestia interpretations... Short answer we've seen Celestia (and the other Princesses) fight directly for Equestria before so if there was a full on war the Princess would be on the front lines and not hiding in their castles. Also to be blunt the only mistake Celestia made in the S4 finale was trusting Discord to begin with...Everything after that is her (and the other Princesses) improvising to get out of a bad situation they weren't expecting to be in. I also think the writers were trying to force this confrontation between Tierk and Twilight, but enough of that. I really liked this episode although it seems like this was kind of drawn out. A lot of these scenarios are interesting but ultimately aren't really important to the end story since it's only the final show down between Starlight and Twilight that matters. I did like that this is another situation where Twilight can't just blast her way out of a situation (Although I'm surprised she can't...Maybe she really does need to work on her aim. lol) But this is after all the MLP way. lol I really liked Starlights backstory since in short I understand how she feels all too well. I'm glad that she was redeemed and I don't think it was too quick since all Twilight really has to do is say in a way is you can have friends and I'm here to help you. Awww that was so touching! I actually liked the song I thought it was ok, perhaps not the greatest but I really liked it. So ends season 5. It was a pretty good season overall with a lot of ups and downs but a lot of really emotionally satisfying episodes. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing what they come up with for Season 6. BlueStar Out
@thefrostyicecreamslush9 жыл бұрын
ALL PRAISE THE HOLY COW C:
@SquidofBaconator9 жыл бұрын
Nice review. And another great conclusion to another season! However, I'm not sure that I can call this season better that the last. It's at least the same quality as last season. I'm planning on looking over all the episodes in a video and then coming to a conclusion, because I REALLY need to get my thoughts straight. As for this episode, it was near perfection; that's all that needs to be said :)
@Lin2Waterfall9 жыл бұрын
why does everyone think Starlight is joining the mane team? She could easily just be a recurring character like Discord and work her story out of the Equality Village that seems to have forgiven her.
@niruththesmalldragon20269 жыл бұрын
I love that they added Starlight Glimmer to the cast. But honestly I would love to see her struggle, sorta like Discord, with what friendship really is. Or even seeing her just get mad or have angry out bursts over either little things or somewhat big things. This ep overall was great and I would of loved to see more, or give Sombra better lines...
@diamondhunter2439 жыл бұрын
My favorite part was when Nightmare Moon was in power. Nightmare all the way!
@CanterlotCrusader9 жыл бұрын
That is a funny way to say Sombra. All hail the King!
@acetrueeye9089 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this time travel concept in these episodes, In its own way the writers made all and other fanfics Canon with this.
@TheFoolishSamurai9 жыл бұрын
Filly Fluttershy is/was lanky as f**k.
@XionTheSylveon9 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to say how much I LOVED this finale.
@katmanxrocks4449 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad Starlight Glimmer came back. She's such a badass villain and she's such a bitch. Now if only Twilight could make her freakin' mind up on whether she wants to be a god/princess or a damsel in distress. Girl, you're an alicorn , stop acting terrified and shoot Starlight in the face while she's monologuing! It's not that hard! XD
@phantomtenebres73199 жыл бұрын
I honest didn't notice the prosthetic wing until you mentioned it.
@joinmarch769 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's just me, but I'm not nearly as smitten with Starlight's backstory as you and possibly others; for pretty much the reason you brought up: She's so petty in her actions! Look, what happened no doubt hurt, and if she wasn't such a stubborn bitch, she'd have my sympathy, but however justified her anger may be, that's no excuse for dragging the rest of the world down with her. But thankfully everything else made up for that in spades.
@7Seraphem79 жыл бұрын
+joinmarch76 Except she never wanted to 'drag the world down with her' she never intended for things to get that bad, and never really set out to hurt anypony beyond the Mane 6. It was seeing the result of her actions that helped to start her being willing to listen. Plus, we have seen the ponies can and will massively overreacted to minor things. Twi in lesson Zero, Pinkie in Party of One, plenty of options. Though even for ponies, her reaction was on the extreme side.
@joinmarch769 жыл бұрын
7Seraphem7 And yet that didn't stop her from continuing to act more stubborn than the Cartoon Network staff on their scheduling plans. Just saying, if she truly was only damaging the Mane Six and them alone, then she should have known better when she realized that her revenge would mean the ends of everyone, including she herself! Granted, she DOES get this through her head in the end, but still. And your point is? Those were completely different situations, acts of either desperation, temporary doubt about themselves, others, or all of the above. And besides, neither of your examples involved Armageddon occurring in the process.
@joinmarch769 жыл бұрын
***** While I'll agree with that somewhat, here's my problem with what you said: It's not the backstory itself that's the big problem, the problem is its execution. Maybe it's just because I've never really felt the way she does about losing a friend, but I think she not only overreacted to the event, but has little reason to use this as an excuse to enact her plans. Why? Because who she was friends with is someone that we have no idea who he is nowadays. And she seriously NEVER tried finding him again after that? If she revealed that she lived in Canterlot and knew Twilight, that'd be different since it'd show why she's so stubborn in letting this kind of grudge go. How do I know it'd work? Because I've seen such a past issue done before gracefully with Moondancer in Amending Fences. Here, however, we can't really identify with someone who acts less like a sociopath (though that indeed IS there), and more a childish, stubborn idiot that won't, to quote Queen Elsa, "Let it go!" And don't sell me that emotion bullcrap, that doesn't fly with the actions of other ponies, so what makes you think I'll give that a past to a backstory so pathetic compared to others?
@7Seraphem79 жыл бұрын
joinmarch76 It does not matter what you would do, or how you would handle it, what matters is how this wholly other person could, would, and did. Is it irrational? yes. Is it taking things WAY to damn far? Yes. Is it extreme, even for Ponies who routinely snap at the slightest minor issue? Yes. But that is simply who she is, the fact she reacted so hard is part of who she is and infoms her overall character.
@7Seraphem79 жыл бұрын
***** Agreed, though I don't thing 'rationale' and 'over emotional' go together. They did make sense though.
@LoudToon999 жыл бұрын
This season finale was epic. Definitely gives Twilight's Kingdom compotition. Season 5 was amazing, not only do we get so many amazing episode, but it ended so many over arching arcs theoughout the show so well and best of all: NO FANDOM DRAMA AGAIN... Except the the finalie debunks the headcanons of what happens if the rainboom never happend. Now for the episodes best to worst: 1. Cutie Re-Mark 2. Slice Of Life 3. Crusaders Of The Lost Mark 4. Do Princesses Dream Of Magic Sheep (Not because Luna's in it) 5. Amending Fences 6. Lost Treasure of Griffonstone 7. Make New Friends But Keep Discord 8. Rarity Investigates 9. Cutie Map 10. Tanks For The Memories 11. The Mane Attraction 12. Scare Master 13. Canterlot Bouteque 14. Boom and Gloom 15. Hearthbreakers 16. The Hoofeilds and Mccolts 17. Made In Manehatten 18. Castle Sweet Castle 19. What About Discord 20. The One That Pinkie Knows 21. Brotherhood Social 22. Party Pooped 23. Applelossa's Most Wanted 24. Princess Spike
@rcecile9 жыл бұрын
Decent ranking.
@LoudToon999 жыл бұрын
+tyler haskell This is my opinion. None of this was baised on any reviews of others. I swear. I watched all of the episodes. I'm not lying.
@LoudToon999 жыл бұрын
***** Both.
@Slender100Gaming9 жыл бұрын
Personally, I hated Crusaders of the Lost Mark. Most people thought it was an amazing episode only because the CMC got their cutie marks, but tbh Diamond Tiara didn't deserved to be forgiven. Just because her Mom was B****, doesn't mean she should be too.
@Manfromthenorth05519 жыл бұрын
I'll agree with this list for the most part.
@vm1417899 жыл бұрын
I'm in the minority when I say this is my least favorite season finale.
@vm1417899 жыл бұрын
***** I may not be very fond of the season 5 finale, but I won't insult fellow fans on their opinions of it.
@vm1417899 жыл бұрын
***** Here's a few 1. Starlight's past. While she's an adorable filly (that hair), the only reason she hated cutie marks was because her only foal friend left her after he got his. My problem with that is Starlight eventually got her's later and she's grew up and lived for a good while. However long it took, she's a full grown mare and hasn't gotten over something so pity. I am one who thinks villains don't need much of a reason to be a villain so long as they show they are truly monstrous or evil (for example, the Dazzlings). With Starlight, she's neither, and therefor I need to see a reason why she was villain. I let the season opener got away with that because we didn't know much about her. Now we do, and with that past, I'm not impressed. 2. The time travel. I can understand that stopping the Rainboom would have catastrophic results since the Mane Six are the ones who stop all the evil, but how is it that the slightest different way the Rainboom was stopped would determine which villain ruled? Starlight magically holds Rainbow Dash leads to Sombra. Starlight convincing the kids not to bully Fluttershy lead to Queen Chrysalis (with a different voice), etc. Each future begs the questions of "How?" and "Why?" Why did holding Rainbow Dash lead to Sombra, and how did the ponies even defeat Nightmare Moon, Discord, and Chrysalis, all of whom came before Sombra? Why did reasoning with bullies lead to Chrysalis ruling Equestria with only a resistance left to defy her and (again) how were the previous villains defeated? The other futures ask the same questions. Nightmare Moon and Discord were defeated by the Elements of Harmony, something that wouldn't even work without the Mane Six being friends, so that's a pretty "How?" Now I will say each future is a treat to see (the war with Sombra being my favorite), but the plot holes really outweigh the visuals. 3. The ending. MLP has a history of redeeming villains. And to its credit, it has worked quite well. I, like many others, love Princess Luna, Sunset Shimmer, and Diamond Tiara now. However, there does come a breaking point where reformations won't work, and Starlight was the one for me. After being shown that her actions would ruin Equestria, Starlight almost immediately reforms and becomes Twilight's student. Now, Sunset's reformation was much faster, but here's the big difference; we got to see Sunset work for it. Sunset became good, but next to no one at Canterlot High accepted her still. She was suffering from her mistakes, she was being proactive in trying to fit in (yet she wasn't successful), and that's why it worked. We saw being good didn't lead to her getting free a pass. With Starlight, she stops being evil so quickly (without the need of any magic beams), gets offered the awesome position of Twilight's pupil, and EVERYONE in Equestria loves her. Now, probably most citizens of Equestria outside the Mane Six's entourage wouldn't know about Starlight, but even the town she manipulated forgave her after just a BRIEF conversation. And she becomes Twilight's student? Sunset and Moondancer are more qualified. Sunset was Celestia's protege, and she's good now, so why not her? Moondancer is almost as intelligent as Twilight, and she would like some friendship lessons, so why not her? With Starlight, she turns good fast, get's offered the position due to her talent, and everyone loves her. The end. No, that is not working for me. We have seen two characters in Sunset and Moondancer, beloved by the fandom so much that they could fit in, yet they gave us Starlight (a character we've barely seen make any attempt to be a good a pony) after such a weak reformation. Honestly, I think it would've worked better if Starlight stayed bad and ran away. There's are just a few reasons. I could write more, but I didn't want to make you read too much (though I think I already failed at that at this point). I hope that gives you some insight to why I feel the way I do about this finale.
@sleep_me_now9 жыл бұрын
+vm141789 While I still like the episode, I agree with your points. However, I might have to object to your first one. While creating a cult just because you lost a friend is a little petty (Not pity) it caused her to become unwilling to make friends. Growing up with no friends can be detrimental to your mental health and potentially mentally scar you. Other than that, your points make sense.
@vm1417899 жыл бұрын
William Shen I wouldn't say it caused her to become unwilling to make friends. It caused to want to make friends but in her own psychotic way. And I honestly can't believe she couldn't make a single friend the normal way in Equestria, where even people in Manehattan and Canterlot can form some friendship.
@vm1417899 жыл бұрын
Mikehunt 1. Twilight's Kingdom 2. Best Night Ever 3. Magical Mystery Cure 4. Canterlot Wedding 5. Cutie Re-Mark
@captaintaco23459 жыл бұрын
I started planning a huge MLP war fanfic around the beginning of Season 5. I was waiting til the finale so I wouldn't have any inconcictency with show canon. But now that I've seen what the villains, especially Sombra, are capable of once they rule Equestria, I have more ideas than ever. Sombra and Chrysalis will comand an army of Changelings and Crystal Slaves while Tirek leads all of them to completely decimate Celestia's army.
@junglehero12749 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic episode! Sure, there are some plot holes, but this was just so much fun that you don't care. One of the best in an already fantastic season.
@Sachgo_Rainbow8 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh yes please let's do an entire episode about the Filly mane six that would be adorable!!! I also loved the war dimension. Rainbow Dash's hair and wing were way too awesome for words!! I also agree season five was awesome and I can't wait to see more development to Starlight Glimmer's character in the near future.
@maggiehillman90389 жыл бұрын
I just realized something about Rainbow Dashes cutie mark it has 6 colors held together by a cloud just like how the main six are held together by a single event.
@Mangaka-Knight9 жыл бұрын
This was so amazing. I loved seeing all of the villains have their time to shine, well most of them, considering the time limit and Tierk didn't get enought time to speak, but what he was doing was self explanatory. I really loved the fact that the writers didn't make Spike so incompetent like they have been doing all this season. Spike was actually likeable to me in this two part episode. He came up with the idea of Starlight planning revenge and deduced the idea of her plan. He even reminded Twilight to not interfere with certain events like Fluttershy falling off the cloud during the race.
@monicacruz77299 жыл бұрын
The crystal war reminds me of fallout equestria and I love the desings of the mane 6 in this timeline.LOVE IT!!!
@girlybabyhedgehog9 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of in the sombra timeline the princesses and changelings having join together because sombra isn't only affect the pony kind but changeling food sources even having a possible special task group of ponies and changeling working together on missions to take put sombra. I'm also think of the kind of weaponry changelings would use in that kind of fight plus the type agreement made with the changelings to get their help
@davidweiss24079 жыл бұрын
After a bit of thought, I realize that this episode actually incorporates a bit of every episode from the season into it. Like in Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep there was not being able to get over the past. In made in Manhatten during the King Sombre timeline it showed every pony doing what they can to help. From Hoofields and McColts how fighting was just going to lead to a never ending feud between Twilight and Starlight and so on with every episode.
@diamondsparkle48209 жыл бұрын
King Sombara Taking over-Timeline Queen Chrysalis took over-Timeline Tirek took over-Timeline Discord took over-Timeline Nightmare moon took over-Timeline Flim & Flam took over-Timeline Desert-Timeline
@davidweiss24079 жыл бұрын
I wonder what it would have been like to have someone like Cheese Sandwich, Pinkie Pie ruling over Equestria, though that would probably not be a bad future. Or maybe there could have been a world ruled by Flutterbat and it would be full of monster ponies. This was truly an episode to make us think. Gonna be a challenge to start season 6 after that. I would like to see Twilight continue to make friends with more of the different species in Equestria like the dragons. We also need some CMC episodes to see what they have been up to to help others to find their special talents. It is really great that even after 5 seasons there is still so many possibilities out there.
@cyan-sky11889 жыл бұрын
When I watched this episode, I was on the edge of my seat, completely blown away in all of the time paradoxes and action! Although, one major question that still lingers in my mind is what exactly happened to Dashie to make her lose her wing! Maybe I can tell that story....hmmm....
@ashlaskash9 жыл бұрын
I'm actually planning on making a quick little "First Thoughts" type thing on it, inspired by folks like you. You're awesome, and I agree with many of the things you say. If there's one thing I dislike it's Starlight getting redeemed with a friendship speech even though she committed a bunch of really bad things like tampering with timelines, mass brainwashing, suspected kidnapping, forcefully removing talents, and other things. I don't mind it, but it still seems a bit too easy on her.
@Titan3609 жыл бұрын
I burst out laughing when you talked about Sunset's "out of nowhere" Heel-Face-turn with that pic of her face close-up. I couldn't help myself.
@WolfX11209 жыл бұрын
IT WAS GREAT!!!!! And That Was The Best Zecore Appearance EVER!!!! =3 I Am So Looking Fowarrs To Season 6,,, /)
@equestriantechies17019 жыл бұрын
+WolfX1120 Mr poopy butholes: "In just like... a year and a half.. or..more"
@Sonic_Gamer5019 жыл бұрын
my favorite was seeing Queen Chrysalis. She's my favorite villain.
@KrazyStargazer9 жыл бұрын
I was flat out blown away by this fanalie. And I wasn't even expecting anything much! I mean I thought the season 4 failed was good...boy did the map staff kick it up a knoch! in the spirit of Doc Brown...great Scott! this was incredible.
@RiverSpirit9 жыл бұрын
I loved this finale, it was pretty awesome seeing the various time lines and everything that would have happened. The only thing, and this is a nitpick, was Starlight's rather quick change in attitude. I know that the writers were short on time, but if they were able to go into one more episode, I would have loved to think that they would expand on Starlight's backstory, seeing how she learned those spells, and how she developed. I'm sure that, if they add her to the main cast, they'll go into that in later episodes though. OH OH! And was I the only one who, when Starlight and Twilight were in that deserted wasteland, kind of wanted to think that that was the future if Starlight had succeeded in erasing everyone else's cutie marks? The other alternate timelines were the results of other villains, and since she was a villain in the season 5 premiere, wouldn't it kind of make sense that one of the timelines would be what happened if she, as a villain, were in control? During that scene I was thinking that perhaps seeing the results of taking away cutie marks would make her change her mind. It makes sense that equestria would be a wasteland, as the earths couldn't tend the land very well, the pegasi couldn't control the weather, and the unicorns most likely wouldn't have been able to use magic nearly as much. If you really think about it, taking away practical special talents would have effected the land much more than expected. But still, I agree that this was a very satisfying conclusion to season 5.
@nanaasmah9389 жыл бұрын
All I'm asking for is either an Equastria Girls spinoff or a spinoff about the adventures of the Cutie Mark Crusaders after they get their cutie marks
@haroldwolfe17879 жыл бұрын
In all honesty I think Season 5 was marvelous! We had a few hiccups along the way, but overall it was the best season to date. And the best part we have Season 6 already confirmed, and this episode sparked a theory in my head. Tell me if you notice the trend here; Twilight Sparkle, Sunset Shimmer, Starlight Glimmer, Moon Dancer, Sun Burst (starlight's friend from the past). All of which are magically gifted unicorns with a similar sounding name. Now this is a puzzle that has me turning it over, and over in my head. Does this follow the whole nature/nurture debate, and all magically gifted unicorns have something celestial in their name? Or perhaps the writers are building up to something involving all these characters? Really this is a tidbit of headcanon I love chewing over in my head, and I'd like to hear the opinions of everyone else, including you Doctor Wolf. KEEP GOING STRONG!!!!!!!
@MegaAnimationFan9 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with ya yet again Doc. This episode really was fantastic! And I surprisingly welcome Starlight's redemption and inclusion in the main cast. And as for my favorite timeline.....I can't pick! They were all very unique and intense! Now I proudly say that season 5 is my favorite season! And I can't wait to see what's in store for next season.
@The_Foreman9 жыл бұрын
My favorite moment is that Face + Golf Clap when Twilight crystal'd rainbow.
@BossArooReacts9 жыл бұрын
An interesting thing dywtba_brony said after watching the episode was that: What if, instead of sunburst, Starlight's old friend was actually sunset shimmer. I think this would have been an extremely cool idea that would tie in the equestria girls world and the mlp world so beautifully.
@ArtistTouch39 жыл бұрын
It didn't really make sense how only one villain rolled for each time line and not all of them for one, since no pony was there to defeat them in any of them.
@ryanbarham84649 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see the writers do like, a ten-second tribute to a couple of alternate-timeline fanfictions, but this was still awesome!
@marionette87399 жыл бұрын
My family and I had hoped for more time spent with Discord, and found the Flim Flam Future an interesting one to explore. We hope for more finales and premier episodes to follow in it's example in writing, as my entire family agrees that it was, by far, one of the best! :)
@crystalqueen97119 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would have loved to see more of the alternate future where Sombra returned sucsessfully and the war surrounding it
@MrZilla9 жыл бұрын
Now that I'm really thinking about it, give it a longer runtime and that could be the movie. It would be even better though because they would have more time to explore these ideas.
@phoenixamaku55519 жыл бұрын
Honestly it was a big shock to even see Starlight Glimmer join the Mane 6, i didn't think that was going to even happen. Honestly the Hasbro staff did a wonderful job with this season espicailly with Rainbow kid version getting a front row seat eating popcorn with his friends and both of them leaveing and he goes "Aw man" I jus tloved that part!
@StopChangingMyNameYoutube19 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the Crystal War fanfics, that version of time alone is just Fascinating and I'd love to see what the people come up with. I mean, Pinkamena was killing it as hard as Maud in that battle, that's pretty damn metal!