"The Damp Man" by Allison V. Harding / A HorrorBabble Production

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"The Damp Man" is the first of three stories by Allison V. Harding concerning the titular character: a large, mysterious figure dressed in black. The story first appeared in the July 1947 edition of Weird Tales Magazine. “A relentless pursuit instituted by a beyond-normal monster with a loathsome scheme hinted at only in nightmares…”
0:00:00 - Introduction
0:01:00 - Part 1
0:43:36 - Part 2
1:36:19 - Further Listening
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Narrated by Ian Gordon for HorrorBabble
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@HorrorBabble
@HorrorBabble Жыл бұрын
IT FOLLOWS, anyone?
@loganlogon3720
@loganlogon3720 Жыл бұрын
THAT was awesome! First you get us hooked on the diabolical Dr. Satan and now this, you spoil us Ian!😆
@jimjohhnston9992
@jimjohhnston9992 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Story This one really delivers the goods Your reading was beyond excellent Thank you
@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz
@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz Жыл бұрын
It follows is an awesome movie. The old man on the roof reminds me of Biden.
@ombra711
@ombra711 Жыл бұрын
Classic film, looking forward to listening to this even more with that comparison!🥹
@michaelgreaves2375
@michaelgreaves2375 Жыл бұрын
Wow, last time I was this early, Warren was still alive!
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 Жыл бұрын
You fool!
@jnightshade4379
@jnightshade4379 Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA that intro is literally the reason I unsubscribed for a year.
@audralokrantz2388
@audralokrantz2388 Жыл бұрын
Lol 😆
@tonymuir4715
@tonymuir4715 Жыл бұрын
@@jnightshade4379 and its part of the reason I smile every time a new narration drops. Different folks, different strokes.
@itsworsethanthat526
@itsworsethanthat526 Жыл бұрын
Zing!
@iesika7387
@iesika7387 Жыл бұрын
Any supernatural elements aside, this story is terrifying just for the reminder of how hard it is to get anyone to help you or take you seriously if you are being stalked, even by someone who has already done actual physical violence. The swim coach actively working to isolate Linda "to help her fiance win her back", the police not taking any of this seriously for so long, it's all entirely too realistic. I was stalked when I was around this age and people kept letting my stalker into my dorm room or giving him my class or work schedule, or my parents address.
@TiroDvD
@TiroDvD Жыл бұрын
This is why Internet Anonymity is so important.
@mariameere5807
@mariameere5807 10 ай бұрын
@@TiroDvDand yet practically impossible to achieve nowadays at least for me but not the best with technology….. right brain dominant!🙏
@ombra711
@ombra711 Жыл бұрын
So the concept of "Nice Guys" have been a thing for a loooong time!😳
@merlapittman5034
@merlapittman5034 Жыл бұрын
If it was me, I'd have broken the damp man up into little pieces to make sure he couldn't come back to life when he thawed! Really frightening story, especially to someone like me who has been stalked. Excellently told, as always!
@Dreamerwild
@Dreamerwild Жыл бұрын
Burn the pieces
@iesika7387
@iesika7387 Жыл бұрын
I like to imagine after he went back to the house and told Linda, she borrowed a hammer and took care of it herself. Would be pretty cathartic.
@jha9235
@jha9235 Жыл бұрын
I like how at first he's like "eh, athletes not my type" and later he's admiring her "powerful strokes"
@mrdropkicker1
@mrdropkicker1 Жыл бұрын
A man of culture
@thefisherking78
@thefisherking78 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most nerve-wracking stories you've ever told. I love the way the tension just builds and builds and builds. Also, you do a better impression of a middle 20th century Mid-Atlantic American accent than most Americans can. Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca would be proud, if you know what I mean. Just, wow.
@goopah
@goopah Жыл бұрын
I agree with every word you wrote. The tension was off the charts. I felt like I was right there in every scene. And I never gave a thought to the 'accent', but now that you mention it, you're right.
@deniseindoung4514
@deniseindoung4514 Жыл бұрын
IKR? The first time I heard him speak in that accent I thought it was some guest narrator he'd brought on for the story.
@FosterYourAffinity
@FosterYourAffinity Жыл бұрын
This story... oh man. First listen through, I was distracted, and it didn't grab me. I've listened to it two more times. Wow. - Definitely evokes some parallel imagery with "It Follows" - The excitement of their first panicked flight, the pool scenes, - the anxiety that one draws from the fact that the cast of supporting characters are oblivious to the lurking danger and are more concerned with their daily lives - just adds to that ever building dread. Great read, sir!
@brownwhale5518
@brownwhale5518 Жыл бұрын
What are we all missing while our eyeballs are fixated on our distraction screens?
@kkdd3844
@kkdd3844 Жыл бұрын
I like how in the end, the world itself got rid of the villain.
@goopah
@goopah Жыл бұрын
Don't mess with Mother Nature! It gets flippin' cold in Canada.
@bluegreenglue6565
@bluegreenglue6565 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a grotesque villain, and a very entertaining story. I can't help but see these narrations in full cinematic form as I listen, even when I'm working on a project (like I am at the moment). Thanks so much!
@evelanpatton
@evelanpatton Жыл бұрын
SPOILER ALERT: I wanted a little more smashing at the end! And I love how every tale is unique. This one is reminiscent of the 40/50’s Johnny Dollar, Phillip Marlow-esque writing. Very well done production! It felt like I was listening to an Old Time Radio production (apart from the clarity)! Some folks might not like the trope character style of this style, however, I think you did an excellent production, very true to the times in which this was written. It isn’t a “Classic”, but it was worth every minute. Every tale that you chose to do is compiled together with it’s own MASTERY. It makes one wonder how you do it- truly MAGIC! Thank you for the diversity of writing, it certainly isn’t mono-gore, horror babble! Cheers!
@juliadia007
@juliadia007 Жыл бұрын
It was slightly hitchcockian. I was expecting the denouement to be you know where (don’t want to spoil it)
@3X73RM
@3X73RM Жыл бұрын
Finally a Horror Babble story with a happy ending x) Feels nice once in a while :3
@WeirdIncluded
@WeirdIncluded Жыл бұрын
Phew. Didn't expect such an ending. Amazing work
@beckymartin1810
@beckymartin1810 Жыл бұрын
So good! Came to listen to this before the second part!
@jeank.7527
@jeank.7527 Жыл бұрын
This is so well-read I can’t stop listening- thank you!!! Can’t wait for “The Damp Man Returns” and the “The Damp Man Again” on Horrorbabble.
@dmonvisigoth1651
@dmonvisigoth1651 Жыл бұрын
I love stories from this era written by women. It is always interesting to note the difference in perspective and the sorts of details that are included. I like that the male protagonist likes big healthy women. And the element of being creeped out to your core simply by the way someone looks at you -- that predatory gaze. Thanks for sharing this, I otherwise may never have discovered it.
@VictorReynolds
@VictorReynolds Жыл бұрын
Great story that keeps you going!
@0therun1t21
@0therun1t21 Жыл бұрын
The swim coach woman really made my blood boil! It's 100°F here and this is making me not want to get wet, good story, can't wait for the next installment.
@ombra711
@ombra711 Жыл бұрын
I loved the first one so much, I'll be checking this out after work!🤗
@Ivanhoe52
@Ivanhoe52 Жыл бұрын
Great descriptions and style of writing. And cool villain voice.
@Official_King_Penguin
@Official_King_Penguin 8 ай бұрын
This would make an amazing movie. Wouldn't need a huge budget either.
@RexytheRexy
@RexytheRexy 4 ай бұрын
This one got to me. It touched so well on fears and experiences known by many femme people - the doubt of others as to your sanity, the depiction of a stalker as inhuman, the hulking figure that overshadows and forces you to change your life, the way the legal system protects him/them over you (the radius of a restraining order I got against a man who violently attacked me in a way that could have been lethal was made smaller because she "didn't want to inconvenience him when he was walking downtown, the police not taking you seriously even after danger has been proven... this is, in a single word, excellent.
@osteetheman
@osteetheman Жыл бұрын
Wow that was a fantastic story. I can’t wait to hear the others
@donaldmccleary9015
@donaldmccleary9015 Жыл бұрын
Amazing story, like all those written by AVH. Great story with good characters, descriptive setting, and relentless bad guys! Amazing narration, as always. Thanks!
@joz6683
@joz6683 Жыл бұрын
Late to the party. So glad this is a longer one will help me to sleep. And as always thanks to everyone involved for your tireless work 👍
@goopah
@goopah Жыл бұрын
Take it from me: This one will not help you sleep. I tried that last night, and ended up staring wide-eyed at the ceiling as the story unfolded. Brilliant stuff, and I don't regret it in the slightest, but most of HorrorBabble's work demands that I listen to the whole damn thing. I never get a good nights' sleep listening to this channel.
@sabastjunberthiaume8391
@sabastjunberthiaume8391 Жыл бұрын
I am loving everything you’re doing @HorrorBabble ! Keep up the amazing work guys. I’m excited for more Autumn and chilly weather stories as the days get darker
@taterpussy3825
@taterpussy3825 Жыл бұрын
Harding is becoming a quick new favorite of mine thanks to readings like this. If this is part 1 of 3 then I can't wait for the continuation of this tale. Ramsdorf reminds me of Kingpin from the Spiderman comics, with his wealth and stature. What a simp too lol. Thanks for the reading Ian!
@ImCarolB
@ImCarolB 11 ай бұрын
That was a great story and I'm so glad there are more to come! The end reminded me of the years I lived in Winnipeg -- incredibly cold in winter!
@amethyst42
@amethyst42 Жыл бұрын
**SPOILER ALERT!** Living in Winnipeg, I firmly believe this is the place they flew to, and our weather got 'im.
@ombra711
@ombra711 Жыл бұрын
That last move George made was absolute genius!🥳
@PlayNiceFolks
@PlayNiceFolks Жыл бұрын
Adjusted for inflation, 50 bucks in 1947 was about 650 dollars.
@Luk4zguy97
@Luk4zguy97 Жыл бұрын
This was great. Thank you!
@user-rd3rf3ft8e
@user-rd3rf3ft8e Жыл бұрын
Wow. Again I never expected such an old tale by an author I barely know to be so great, and again you surprised me! Very spooky, intense, great prose. Truly a marvel!
@bobbymarcum772
@bobbymarcum772 Жыл бұрын
I certainly am enjoying this weirdly wonderful trio of tales. I believe I even have one of them in print, if the Weird Tales cover illustration features a very fat man with a derby hat. I also enjoy your original stories, and it is a delight to hear you read them as well as these Golden Oldies. Soon, because of literary crusaders like yourself, Weird Fiction will be a required course of study for English/American lit majors at any respectable university. The gift of literature is the single greatest gift the English Folk have given the world, and I am proud (being of Puritan stock, descended from Israel Marcum) to share that heritage with my English cousins across the pond. I'm also curious to know if you (ian) have done any collaborative work with the esteemed Jasper L'Strange, of Encrypted Classic Horror here on KZbin. The two of you, along with Simon Stanhope (who is somehow still alive, being born in the reign of Victoria) are the greatest channels KZbin has to offer. And I'm even including my favorite e-girls in the contest.
@ktcooki276
@ktcooki276 Жыл бұрын
And Sherlock Holmes audiobooks with bitesize audiobooks? Also really enjoy Simon and Greg's work...haven't previously discovered your first recommendation!!😊
@feralbluee
@feralbluee Жыл бұрын
great story! that grotesque man was a good character - had me really worried. and gosh, your pacing was perfect!. for a minute there I forgot you were English, your American was really good. thanks, sweetie person :) 🌹🌱
@HorrorBabble
@HorrorBabble Жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Alexa!
@stevec2993
@stevec2993 Жыл бұрын
A very chilling tale .
@Eris123451
@Eris123451 Жыл бұрын
“ And in the end the burgesses passed that remarkable law which is told of by traders in Hatheg and discussed by travellers in Nir; namely, that in Ulthar no man may kill a cat.” So that's it then and I'm done; I'll leave you now with these wise words from Konix Multisystem, “Keep up the good work and, as always, stay safe.”
@GrunOne
@GrunOne Жыл бұрын
And rightly so! We keep you all safe from those from the moon
@Eris123451
@Eris123451 Жыл бұрын
@@GrunOne And so you do; don't think that we're not properly grateful.
@thefisherking78
@thefisherking78 Жыл бұрын
@@GrunOne 😳
@anachibi
@anachibi Жыл бұрын
Stumbled onto this one and I love it! Can't wait for the other two! Guess I'll go listen to Allison's other stories you've read so far to tide me over.
@soulreaver1983
@soulreaver1983 Жыл бұрын
Another outstanding video to enjoy many thanks Ian 😎👍👍
@goopah
@goopah Жыл бұрын
Oh, now this one was special. Absolutely riveting. Terrifically written. But special mention must go to the narrator, who did a fantastic job conveying the tension, pacing, personalities, and flavor of the story. In particular, I greatly enjoyed the voice of the Damp Man himself. Simply outstanding work. Will you be doing the sequels as well? Please? As an aside, I must ask: How in the hell do you read all of this aloud in all of these voices, and never make a mistake?!?
@HorrorBabble
@HorrorBabble Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, we'll be recording the other 2 stories eventually. In terms of not making a mistake, that's all down to editing!
@colemarie9262
@colemarie9262 Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail art for this is so very menacing! Kudos to the artist for managing to put that much scary into an otherwise pretty average face.
@jlworrad
@jlworrad Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully noir. Thanks!
@gregoryturner9530
@gregoryturner9530 Жыл бұрын
Oh hell yes! Fantastic story
@samanthabaker964
@samanthabaker964 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this 1. And so xcllntly narrated well. Thank u Ian!
@mortuarycookiezshane4192
@mortuarycookiezshane4192 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I’m very curious about the other two stories. By the damp man’s initial description I pictured the slug like man from the King in Yellow . This story has similar vibes to me for some reason. Perhaps because I have so many questions!
@willam1992
@willam1992 Жыл бұрын
or something from beneath the sea
@RedSphero
@RedSphero Жыл бұрын
I immediately thought of the King in Yellow too! Glad it wasn't just me.
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 Жыл бұрын
Kinda reminds me of the hybrid inhabitants of Innsmouth as well, which seems especially fitting.
@0The_Farlander0
@0The_Farlander0 Жыл бұрын
What an ending!
@hailthebagwan
@hailthebagwan Жыл бұрын
Discovered this channel with 'the Damp Man' and have found my new favourite channel.
@HorrorBabble
@HorrorBabble Жыл бұрын
Pleased to meet you, Andrew!
@PlayNiceFolks
@PlayNiceFolks Жыл бұрын
I quite liked this one. Going to have to check out other works by Harding.
@gumbytheonetheonly9089
@gumbytheonetheonly9089 Жыл бұрын
Great Job !!! Quality Entertainment ! Thank You
@dosycatfish
@dosycatfish Жыл бұрын
That was fantastic. Will we get to hear the other two as well? Thanks to your channel I have learned about Allison V. Harding, and fallen in love with her stories! :)
@HorrorBabble
@HorrorBabble Жыл бұрын
Indeed! Thanks for listening.
@blixten2928
@blixten2928 Жыл бұрын
Oooh! The mad scientist out to kidnap the blonde girlfriend! Both smelling faintly of chlorine. This was FUN!
@nathanielgrey4091
@nathanielgrey4091 Жыл бұрын
Well, that was harrowing. Did Remsdorf make a deal with the damn deep ones? I hope Linda went on to live a full and beautiful life. And our hero... What a man. Someone to aspire too. Put his life on hold to protect an innocent, hoping to gain nothing from it but the satisfaction of defending an innocent soul
@manuelluisnavarro7701
@manuelluisnavarro7701 Жыл бұрын
Should make an exciting horror movie.
@customercareskeleton
@customercareskeleton Жыл бұрын
It's raining non stop Perfect time to listen to this one
@ryanstallings7920
@ryanstallings7920 Жыл бұрын
Love the voice!
@infamoushacker4chan883
@infamoushacker4chan883 Жыл бұрын
End of the story should've been, "That's it, I'm gettin me mallet."
@Jose-oq6kj
@Jose-oq6kj Жыл бұрын
I love your channel so much. Thank you.
@TheLordUrban
@TheLordUrban Жыл бұрын
You guys are dangerously close to infringing on my copyright for my original super hero Moist-Man.
@mikemahaffey9121
@mikemahaffey9121 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Was not expecting one on vampires.
@ombra711
@ombra711 Жыл бұрын
Pouring out some 711 slushie for the homie Warren!🥲
@ProjectTenva
@ProjectTenva Жыл бұрын
Such a good story. Alison V. Harding just seems to write really likeable characters and the 'weird' in her tales is fairly unique. Going to go back and listen to some of the earlier ones of hers you narrated I think.
@adamscrivner30
@adamscrivner30 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@Enshadowed
@Enshadowed 4 ай бұрын
there's something different about stories written by female authors that I really enjoy. I think a lot of that is the greater attention to subtle personal details, descriptions, interactions.
@matthewhennessey5967
@matthewhennessey5967 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool ending.
@matthewhennessey5967
@matthewhennessey5967 Жыл бұрын
@@declassified1 The ending was cool. Cold.
@walterfechter8080
@walterfechter8080 Жыл бұрын
The antagonist reminds me of a villain from a Batman comic book.
@kevinfogle7929
@kevinfogle7929 Жыл бұрын
the villain from Dead White?
@AcornElectron
@AcornElectron Жыл бұрын
“Something, something, Nyarlathotep…..old, OLD! something, something…Carter!” Keep up the good work and, as always, stay safe!
@jimjohhnston9992
@jimjohhnston9992 Жыл бұрын
Great Story I have a new Fave One of the best villains ever
@Thehorrortheterror
@Thehorrortheterror Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this. It was creepy and suspenseful. And the ending I was like, “Because he’s made of *redacted*” I hope you do the other stories soon!
@AJScraps
@AJScraps Жыл бұрын
Now thats a creepy thumbnail 👀😱
@Claythargic
@Claythargic Жыл бұрын
Good one.
@ClipperHorizon
@ClipperHorizon Жыл бұрын
"I am the Mother White Wind / this is my hour of might / the hills and snow are my children / my service they do tonight." - Seton
@benwrigley6176
@benwrigley6176 Жыл бұрын
That was a cool one. Recommended to all.
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 Жыл бұрын
Poor Warren
@stephaniestevenson6335
@stephaniestevenson6335 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a starving person sitting down to a feast!
@TheImmortalDivine
@TheImmortalDivine 10 ай бұрын
I think you'd have to be a woman to understand the true terror of this situation. This is the kind of horror story that's very real and is happening right now to women all over the world, and the maddening thing is that its rarely taken seriously, just like in the story.
@roxanavasilakis9435
@roxanavasilakis9435 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🏊‍♀️🏊‍♀️
@jhb1493
@jhb1493 Жыл бұрын
Well that was weird. And weird is GOOD.
@clintgh
@clintgh Жыл бұрын
*SPOILER ALERT* Maybe I'm dumb or something, but what happened in the end?
@kevingluys3063
@kevingluys3063 Жыл бұрын
*Tips Fedora* "M'Lady"
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@paulsmart4672
@paulsmart4672 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the cops.
@Scarter63
@Scarter63 Жыл бұрын
There seemed to be an audio glitch around 2:25.
@HorrorBabble
@HorrorBabble Жыл бұрын
That's just one of those moments that doesn't come across particularly well in audio. The line is as such in the text: "He’d taken a lot from McBrien, his editor, but this was . . ."
@1teela
@1teela 9 ай бұрын
It Follows.
@jonahsingh5645
@jonahsingh5645 Жыл бұрын
Cops and being worthless, name a more iconic duo.
@leebennett1821
@leebennett1821 Жыл бұрын
It's Baron Vladimir Harkkonan 😁😁😁
@1701EarlGrey
@1701EarlGrey Жыл бұрын
Oh, no Damp Man eat Warren!
@shadownet3d
@shadownet3d Жыл бұрын
Creepy!
@crowejagerson3628
@crowejagerson3628 Жыл бұрын
Excellent as always. I do hope you do the other 2 stories involving the damp man
@jimjohhnston9992
@jimjohhnston9992 Жыл бұрын
I must respectfully dis agree I thought this story was excellent and the villain was truly unique and very effectively presented
@exoblivione6086
@exoblivione6086 Жыл бұрын
SCP level horror.
@Jynxxxycat
@Jynxxxycat Жыл бұрын
The large man, is reminiscent of the dead, squidgy gravedigger, from the "Conqueror Worm" yarn. 🤔
@HorrorBabble
@HorrorBabble Жыл бұрын
We're not familiar with that one... Poe isn't it? We'll take a look.
@Jynxxxycat
@Jynxxxycat Жыл бұрын
@@HorrorBabble - I was thinking of "The Yellow Sign," by Robert W. Chambers. It was the earlier description of the fellow, which had me thinking about that story.
@davidk6269
@davidk6269 Жыл бұрын
42:30 bookmark
@Wombats555
@Wombats555 Жыл бұрын
Could have been worse. Could have been The Moist Feller.
@aydenblackmer5216
@aydenblackmer5216 6 күн бұрын
Is it just me, or does the thumb nail look like if Persona did a black and white theme
@dirkbruere
@dirkbruere Жыл бұрын
Should have bought a 44 magnum. Lother's head would have exploded, and I doubt even vampires can come back from that
@ManSeekingMeaning
@ManSeekingMeaning 6 ай бұрын
Had to stop and breathe at 1:10:00 or so. Too frustrated. Correct me if I’m wrong, but even for the time period, all the female lead (Lauren?) had to do was go in with George to see the commissioner, no? She’d state she was assaulted, that she’s not engaged, and wants them to go after the man who so conveniently presented himself to the cops. If the commissioner still refused, as a journalist I’d go after him in the paper. Something. Am I missing something?
@Dreamerwild
@Dreamerwild Жыл бұрын
The villainous mutate in this story made a pretty significant assumption that he could procreate with a baseline human to found a "new race." It's no small miracle that he is able to live with such significant mutations. Chances are, he is sterile.
@angelaverbowski995
@angelaverbowski995 Жыл бұрын
#313-✅👍🏻
@reptile797
@reptile797 Жыл бұрын
This story started as one that's almost too frustrating to endure with everyone around the main characters being too stupid in order to keep the plot moving, but it's one that I nonetheless enjoyed.
@jaybat1184
@jaybat1184 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. One of my favorite channels but the characters in this story are so one dimensional.
@evelanpatton
@evelanpatton Жыл бұрын
It’s very of it’s time, almost written as if it WAS an Old Time Radio production- and those characters are hero, pathetic female, money-monster, evil conspirator, duped police, big bo$$ men, sexy sirens, apple pie women, weak familial ties, abandoned drunks, etc.
@th0m_vi0lence3
@th0m_vi0lence3 Жыл бұрын
​@@evelanpatton I agree, there were certainly some Old Time Radio regulars in here. But the end is pleasantly surprising
@HorrorBabble
@HorrorBabble Жыл бұрын
I'm particularly partial to plots involving mysterious 'followers' and the like -- and I rather liked the characters in this one. Let's see what you make of the follow up stories in due course.
@fabricejarfi
@fabricejarfi Жыл бұрын
Who's Warren anyway?
@fabricejarfi
@fabricejarfi Жыл бұрын
@Phalanx Centurion Thanks! I actually Googled it after posting this. I'd actually already read the story a couple of times but that bit hadn't stuck for some reason. :)
@TransRoofKorean
@TransRoofKorean Жыл бұрын
Taking the characters' realism approach seriously, the refusal of them to involve the police about an obvious stalker _even when the police come to them after he's assaulted_ is downright painful. It's like the decision making of the characters just makes no sense. 46:26 "He guessed he'd have to handle it himself without court orders or the police department" -- wat. Even if you're getting a gun, you're gonna want that officially recorded excuse for why ya had to shoot him, you know?
@Capsuleer7
@Capsuleer7 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, that's how it plays out in real life. Unless you have absolute concrete evidence that you're (or someone you know) is being stalked law enforcement can't do anything except make a note of it. If you have a face or name that helps but again, only so much. I work as a security guard, and let me tell you theirs only so much we can do. Most security and law enforcement is an "after the fact" business.
@TransRoofKorean
@TransRoofKorean Жыл бұрын
@@Capsuleer7 Fair; vaguely considered this; again, an actual assault occurred in the story. The best argument would be that a hundred years ago police WERE more of an after-the-fact event than they are today. The "can't do anything" FYI is utterly false in the long-term: if you don't have evidence that you've been stalked then you're correct; if you can point to your previous police reports then that's all the difference... and I mean ALL the difference. It's really pretty vital. What I'm thinking of is a pre-internet person, someone dwelling on what they have to deal with day-to-day, in the scenario of this story: I can't come to the normal conclusion someone wouldn't at least go to the police to describe a clearly malignant force walking around the city. To me, that just doesn't make sense. I've read enough old stories; reporting crimes to police used to be the norm. It clearly applies here. The fact that in the story the "guess I gotta do it myself" part of the story doesn't happen after contacting the police... it reads as making no frickin sense to me, still. No sense. (You're right that policing is [and should be] an "after the fact" business but it's interesting how much people think it should be an interventionist system... utterly new idea from the 20th century, one that has led us to normalize people not being armed: that is, not being sufficiently prepared to properly defending themselves, instead assuming the cops will come along to protect people for 'em... it's perverted what our [American] society views as the natural right to have the force to defend oneself from harm, by assuming there's this external police force right there to do it for us.) But again... The police *CAME* *TO* *HIM* in the story, and his response was "well I guess I can't ask the police for help".
@jamiewatts333
@jamiewatts333 Жыл бұрын
@@TransRoofKorean 'If you can point to your previous police reports then that's all the difference... and I mean ALL the difference. It's really pretty vital.' Life is not always that straightforward and systematic. There have been cases where women were ignored (and even murdered) after making multiple police reports about stalkers. Police and justice systems are more fallible and corrupt than most are willing to acknowledge; innocent victims do not always get the help or protection they need.
@TransRoofKorean
@TransRoofKorean Жыл бұрын
@@jamiewatts333 I entirely agree with you and even know that all far better than most, but from the perspective of the story... I feel like the whole "I gotta do this alone" is making excuses for what's already a sloppy excuse. I feel like she had a conclusion in mind and needed a way to get there. But, I'm usually rather critical and I've never written a damn thing, so it's not like my opinion is particularly important.
@mwanney8785
@mwanney8785 Жыл бұрын
Please put zero faith in the police for your protection. It could save your life one day
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