The Dance of the Dragons: An Overview

[@InDeepGeek]

This is an updated version of a video first published in February 2021.

[@The_Malcontented]

@9:28 "Many years later, Aemond Targaryen's armored bones were discovered still chained to Vhagar's saddle, with the sword Dark Sister impaled hilt-deep through his eye socket." The single most metal line GRRM has yet written

[@maxsalmon4980]

Nettles had it figured out. Take the dragon and run. To hell with the war.

[@ilovemesomme]

The war took out the two greatest heroes of the whole conflict, Ser Adam Velayron and Prince Daeron the Daring.

[@DBProds96]

chad nettles

[@jf_kein_k8590]

And she lived for a long time, leaving a legacy of crazy people who consider mutilating themselves as becoming adults.

[@greyghost2492]

le strong independent black woman

[@philip8551]

First it was a waltz, then it was a hoedown, and lastly, it was a 2 step.

[@lancekyser14]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ThommyofThenn]

Tango of the Dragon

[@ThommyofThenn]

The Dragon does not do the Charlston oh no, the Dragon breakdances

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

No smoldering incestuous Lambada?

[@popunkid]

I saw the Cannibal do the robot. Highly recommend. Pop n locks like a beast.

[@ian7064]

I'm still impressed by the fact that a decimated, dragonless House Targaryen still managed to hold onto power for another 150ish years . And if the tragedy at summehall hadn't happened or if Raygar had become king, it could've been even longer

[@ilovemesomme]

Viserys II was a great Hand and a good King. He stabilized the realm. Unfortunately only 2/3 of his children were good people.

[@realdaggerman105]

@@ilovemesomme To be fair, Viserys II might not have known fully how bad Aegon IV could be. Prince Aegon was, by all accounts, witty, charming and fair. He was seen as a charismatic figure. It wasn’t until later he sort of devolved. Sort of like how Aerys II as a prince was like that, except where Aerys II got betrayed, undermined, schemed against and even tortured for a whole 6 months, Aegon IV really liked food and women.

[@ilovemesomme]

@@realdaggerman105 Makes you wonder if he got poisoned because he was planning on disinheriting Aegon III in favor of his grandson Daeron II.

[@realdaggerman105]

@@ilovemesomme Honestly? Would make a lot of sense.

[@sinusspass1998]

Well, the whole realm (or at least its center) was devastated after the dance. Every single one of the 7 kingdoms has lost a great part of its army, even the victorious North. They decided to built it up again. Who could have seperated? House Targaryen still had a few dragons and new ones were to expect. When it was clear they would die out, years have already passed. But from this point on, the Targs where just the royal house and eventually lost their power.

[@ilovemesomme]

All I know is that Ser Adam Velayron was LOYAL

[@TheNinjaDC]

I'd say the two winners were the North & House Tully. For the North, this was the first time they really involved themselves heavily in the politics of the kingdom. They were rather isolated before this. The hermit kingdom of the 7 kingdoms. But this established them as a major political player that could make significant moves outside of their realm. House Tully (and other Riverland lords) were also winners, as this was the first time the Riverlands as a united realm under the Tullies played a major part. This added legitimacy to Riverlands being their own kingdom(an equal to other kingdoms), and not just a vassal state of another kingdom as they always were before the Targs took over the 7 kingdoms. The Riverland small folk however, were definitely not the winners.

[@amon5393]

The Dance has a very interesting conclusion, simply down to the fact that there is no clear, decisive winner. The Blacks got their bloodline on the throne and killed off the Green line, however the Green claim managed to survive and Rhaenyra's reign was expunged from the records and unacknowledged by the realm

[@sydwhatley]

I love your voice. It’s so soothing

[@emmabush8517]

You could argue that the realm never did recover. The Targaryen’s never again had that many dragons and by extension, that much power.

[@AndrewK23777]

Well done comprehensive breakdown of the DotD Robert. The Dance is truly a disastrous tragedy with insane amounts of carnage. I do tend to sympathize with Team Black but basically most involved are quite terrible with atrocities on all sides , so really i am Team No-one in the end. For me the DotD is essentially a grey horrors of war conflict and GRRM's treatise on such imo. It also highlights the dangers of such ambitions and ruthlessness with weapons of mass destruction at play (dragons in this case). Any victory was Pyrrhic at best ; everyone lost in the end including both sides and the wider realm. The realm took a very long time to recover from the DotD and the Targaryen family essentially never did. Nearly 20 dragons most gone as a result of the Dance and the remaining few mostly died off not long after the conflict. A huge powerful Targ family very much decimated from that point on and were all the more vulnerable ever since. The Targ family was broken to a degree and would never reach such heights again. Including and especially so the understandably very broken and traumatized boy king who emerges from this conflict, who never really recovered. Also , not a coicidence imo we get the most amount of mad and eccentric Targs in the post-dragon era ; with such an intrinsic element ripped away from the family , seemingly an element they were genetically linked with. The DotD was a very grey tragic conflict. And i do hope HotD highlights that above all else ; both sides were and did so much wrong in the end , any victory was Pyrrhic at best and its just a grey horrors of war familial (and beyond) tragedy overall. That should be the main takeaway rather than supporting a given side or trying to decide which faction was more wrong , right or justified etc.

[@anr4306]

You make it sound like Addam just randomly showed up at Tumbleton rather than that he went there specifically to uphold his honour.

[@BigBoss-xr8dg]

This is a 14 minute video. Can you highlight any other bits which aren’t completely expounded? I can, but it’s a 14 minute video and therefore impossible to get every single piece of lore into it.

[@ThommyofThenn]

Gorgeous thumbnail art

[@archmage_of_the_aether]

Arthur is a hand model?

[@ThommyofThenn]

@@archmage_of_the_aether Maybe that's why Howland was able to kill him. Dayne had just secured a gig with Volantine Cosmetics to do some tapestries for lizard lion lotion and needed his hands to look flawless for the weavers. It was this hesitation of looking at his cuticles that cost him all, as the Crannogman's frogspear flashed out faster than he could have expected

[@_valdezzlopezz]

All that war just to end up how it was supposed to be in the first place…with Rhaenyra’s bloodline on the throne

[@hat7583]

Rhaenyra true born children with Daemon not the bastards sat the iron throne

[@RealVincent1989]

@@hat7583they are all her true born children, so they are not badtards

[@ratikantrout1865]

​@@RealVincent1989😂😂😂 they are all bastards, rhaenyra being their mother doesn't change anything

[@josephlongbone4255]

Dance of the Dragons summery: "Massive Black strategic blunder." "Massive Green political blunder." "Crippling black defeat, 6 dragons dead, 4 mutinied." "The river lands explode and catch fire." "Critical Black strategic blunder." "Massive riots lead to peasants eating knights in the streets." "300 Targaryen bastards declare themselves king and then die." "Massive Green strategic blunder." "Critical green strategic blunder, the river lands catch fire again."

[@evanthesquirrel]

Was the river made of wildfire? How did water burn?

[@Bronzescorpion]

Pretty bad summery, especially given the great one from the video.

[@josephlongbone4255]

@@Bronzescorpion it's also a joke Einstein.

[@MJHKing1]

​@@josephlongbone4255 ​this is serious, real business. No jokes allowed 😉

[@Bronzescorpion]

@@josephlongbone4255 Then it is also a pretty bad joke, congrats.

[@TheTrollingMaster-xr9el]

No hate but you made a small mistake, Criston’s army wasn’t trying to get to kings landing it was going to the reach to link up with Dearon’s army.

[@sandygehrmann6309]

As a fan of the Blacks, it will always annoy me that Rhaenyra split her dragons up when she got the seeds, rather than sending all of them en masse to take out the Green threats one at a time (and thereby keeping the loyalty of the turncloaks).

[@ilovemesomme]

What annoyned me the most was she let the Celtigars crack the shit out of the smallfolk. I get her treasury was bankrupt, but her tax policy was beyond regressive, and ultimately it made her lose her throne.

[@sandygehrmann6309]

@@ilovemesomme eh, the smallfolk would never like taxation - and there's always gonna be considerable discontentment in times of war. I think the uprising was inevitable, and her main error there was keeping the dragons chained in the dragonpit and not using them to stamp her authority/not allowing them to escape the Shepherd (ofc none of that would have been a problem if she had initially taken the treasury with her when she first fled, as well).

[@sinusspass1998]

She thought they were loyal. For her bad, they weren't. Book Rhaenyra isn't that intelligent. Not Cersei level, but far less clever than show Rhaenyra.

[@Gotti89]

Daemon's body was never found and Nettles disappeared also. I like to think they ran off together.

[@RealVincent1989]

No

[@LilYupper]

I’m geeking so hard rn

[@THATGuy5654]

At the end of the regular series, after everyone else has killed each other, an extremely elderly Nettles is it going to swoop in and claim the throne.

[@NipplesMagee]

It’s a summary, but I love that we get to see the actual knitty gritty details in tv, including moments that were in obscurity and left up to interpretation

[@nils4279]

daemon and aemond are insanely well casted

[@fightronin3753]

Well made video!!! Keep up the great work!!!!!

[@dromankass8655]

Who poisoned king Aegon II? A small man can cast a large shadow. 'Rats they may be, but rats can bring down a bear, I have seen it. And a Fool can kill a King.' - Mushroom the Fool. (Who just happened to be a supporter of Team Black and in the Red Keep when someone gave Aegon II a cup of poisoned wine).

[@ha77y73ad]

After this overview we need to know what the hour of the wolf is as well, hopefully a video to come in the coming weeks?

[@aprilmae274]

Whoa...did you just show the Red and Gold??!!?! I'm into it...watching now!

[@irontuzi3453]

There was an attempt by the Greens to hide Viseryses death, but the incident which came to be known as "Weekend at Viseryses" was proved both unsuccessful and hilarious.

[@Hfrizk]

What happened to all your other videos? The travelers guide to westoros and the north etc.. those are my favorites

[@grnizz41]

That's what I want to know. Those were really entertaining

[@Object7533]

Just two small nitpicks: It was Aemond eluding his uncle and not the other way around. Aemond also left Harrenhall when Cole marched south to join with the southron forces. Daemon and Nettles tried to find and challenge him but he eluded them and kept burning loyalist holds instead. It was only when Daemon sent Nettles away (they got news of Rhaenyras mistrust and her plans to have Nettles killed) that Aemond showed up and accepted the challenge of Daemon. (WHO JUMPED FROM HIS DRAGON TO FRGGIN STAB AEMOND IN THE FACE!!! ... I know you have to cut some details but why that??? 😂) Addam actually "fled" to Tumbleton to fight the Traitors, recruiting loyalists along the way, to proove his loyalty. Chronology and causality were a bit off at some parts but otherwise this was a great summary though! Thanks for the effort! :)

[@luminyam6145]

That was so good, thank you

[@goncalorodrigues973]

You should reupload this after the show ends btw, imma save this for later tho :)

[@ulisesguzman8574]

May alicent hightower rot in the deepest of the seven hells. Justice for Adam the loyal.

[@InimitableAde]

Damn, even in fan art Alicent got some unruly kids. 😂

[@pyrho1]

Awesome. Thank you

[@baronfang]

WELP, I can’t wait to watch this like four years from now when the HBO series is over.

[@methodsocratic]

The best thing about HotD is it’s not season eight of GOT (or, arguably, seasons 6-8).

[@matthewterlaga3022]

Wonder if they will stick to this “both sides being equally terrible” thing from the book, cause in season one, it was pretty blatant that they wanted the audience to root for the blacks.

[@cardenova]

Well, theyre technically the main characters so its only natural the show orients the audience with their perspective disproportionately more; House Hightower is not even mentioned in the GOT shows and owes allegiance to House Tyrell. House Targaryen, on the other hand, is still one of the most important houses in GOT, despite on its deathbed, at the start of the GOT show/books. It helps the average viewer understand and follow the lore a bit easier. I don’t think there was a bad/evil dichotomy, though I can understand it seems a bit biased. The last sentence of Episode 1’s ‘prologue’ cited the culprit of the civil war most eloquently as House Targaryen ‘itself’. Ryan is too smart a man to NOT know the basic purpose of this story. His ‘eye for an eye’ scene is proof enough that he does understand that everybody will lose everything by the end. Effectively all the dragons of both factions will be extinct by the end of the war (until Dany reawakens her 3 dragons 150 years later lol). They never truly recover nor do the Seven Kingdoms at large either. It’s an utter catastrophe for House Velaryon, the other last remnant of Old Valyria’s Empire. Even House Hightower suffers gravely considering how powerful they were relative to the rest of the continent, especially just before Aegon’s conquest. Even in the books, Oldtown (the seat of the Hightowers) remains more influentual as a cultural/historical city than Highgarden, but not politically nor financially any longer. Even Casterly Rock & the Redwynes will experience a period of relative stagnation for the following century after the costly sacks and raids from the Ironborn. And at the heart of it all is a family/a small web of close friends that originally loved each other. It will be much more gradual and level-headed than the outburst of vengeance displayed during the War of the 5 Kings during the Baratheons’ succession crisis and ensuing rebellion. I think it’s something like 20-30 years of build-up (over a generation and a half) compared to the 3-5 years the War of the Kings took to unfold and end. In the book it’s still been 4 years and Stannis is still alive (ie- the war is not over yet) so perhaps it will be comparable in the end though in the end, it is clear that the Dance of Dragons was more damaging to the realm. And in the end, their vengeance was their own undoing. Of course, that’s the same message (in theory) during GOT’s war but to a lesser extent. The Lannisters & Ironborn were clearly morally bankrupt while the Starks were presented as at least trying to remain honorable. It was a more just cause, so to speak. So yeah I’d say it’s crucial that Ryan gets these string of catastrophic blowbacks and Pyrrhic victories portrayed effectively and thematically. I personally think he will by the end.

[@InimitableAde]

It's interesting you say that because I never perceived the book as presenting both sides being equally terrible. I've been Team Black from day one, and what sealed it for me was the fact that Alicent let Viserys rot in his room for almost a week while she planned her coup without tending to his dead body or even notifying his daughter. Disrespectful indefensible deeds.

[@eb4406]

I've always been team green because Aegon should have been named heir as soon as he came of age. The 7 kingdoms already said that they don't want a queen.

[@mori1bund]

Huh? The blacks came off worse in the show than in the books (so far)! - Daemon is not a gray character but a villain in the show. - Rhaenyra's children being bastards is only a rumor invented by her enemies in the book. - Alicent is not such a sympathetic character in the book, more of a golddigger. - Aemond killed Luke on purpose in the book. And much more...

[@jedjensen7974]

​@@mori1bundThe Strong boys are canonically bastards in the book, as confirmed by George R.R. Martin himself. The book is unable to confirm or deny this, and this only includes that it was rumored.

[@jf_kein_k8590]

Wasn't Dorne still separate from the Iron Throne by that point?

[@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0]

Yes

[@alecharris590]

I think the ironborn did way more damage during this time then they get credit for. Dalton greyjoy was awesome.

[@SHARKVADERS]

IDG !!!!!

[@abandonallhope.1040]

Blacks and Greens whatever House Targaryen lost the war all their dragons wiped out and its members greatly reduced no wonder the dynasty burned out completely

[@knodel2378]

To be fair it still took 150 ish years for the Targaryen to actually lose the throne before the events of a song of ice and fire.

[@HiryKiya]

Daemon was the winner, his children survived, his seed was the seed that was on the throne amd yet, he might be alive

[@cameronbarton7648]

What happened to the Robert Rebellion series? Is it on patreon?

[@timwhite5562]

I have to say that out of all the storylines they could have covered, the only one that I'm less interested in than the Dance is the one about Nymeria and the Rhoynar. The Targaryens in general hold no interest. I think it would have been better if they had been relegated to have been spoken of in ASOIAF, but never seen. HOTD is an alright show, but i think it benefits from the fact that we're all forced to grade shows and films on a curve now because everything else is just so bad. Honestly i hoped that it failed miserably because it was pretty much the ONLY way GRRM might have been motivated to finish the book series.

[@OreoOnslaught]

All because of Alicent.

[@grnizz41]

They made her so dumb in S2

[@TheDarkElder]

One more day until season 2 of the show comes about with the first episode. It'll be interesting to see how much of the overall story they are putting into this season, and how closely it follows the book. Who wins? No one. Or Valar Morghulis to the masses.

[@BrooksKricheldorf]

Would you ever consider doing Harry Potter lore, videos, and all?

[@olgapopova1827]

And what happened to Alicent Hightower?

[@samsamsam446]

She refuses to wear green ever again and dies alone in her room.

[@kenchin77777]

Love all your videos. My dream is that we get a Daemon video

[@jamesdooling4139]

I watched powerless as a child as the fight for money and control over lands and livestock destroyed both sides of my maternal grandmother's family. All for what? A 400-year-old (pre-) Texas dynasty was carved into nothingness and sold off for scrap. No one won. Now? The remnants of that side of my family despise everyone and they squabble over mere acres when someone dies. Pathetic... Even more pathetic is that the vitriol lingers today. Just got a fresh glimpse of the hate in action about 3 years ago...

[@user_miike]

wish people would stop pussyfooting around the topic: team black won the war, aegon’s line was extinguished and rhaenyra’s sons sat the throne.

[@methodsocratic]

Book Rhaenyra vs show Rhaenyra is a big problem, I think: to be clear, I’ve got no issues with adaptations in general, & this one problem is small compared to a lot of other issues I think the show has. Book Rhaenyra very quickly becomes completely broken, inept & even worthy of scorn; show Rhaenyra, at least as of season one, is set up to be heroic, capable & a character the audience would be correct in admiring. I just don’t see how the show can reconcile the two & stay true (enough) to the book. Again, I’ve got a lot of criticism for the show, & this is only one point among many that have already occurred.

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

Remember - the book is from the point of view of unreliable narrators! GRRM never meant it to be canon truth, but rather history written by human beings, with human biases.

[@methodsocratic]

@@thing_under_the_stairs fully aware, fully versed on the use of an unreliable narrator(s); GRRM didn’t come up with the idea. However, the unreliable narrator trope is meant to promote audience skepticism, it’s expressly not meant to be a license to toss out the basic facts of a narrative. If HotD’s show runners manage to believably reconcile their Rhaenyra’s characters with the facts of book Rhaenyra’s choices, good on them; their record so far suggests it’s unlikely.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Not really impossible or that difficult to make a likable character malevolent and broken.

[@methodsocratic]

@@fightingmedialounge519 no doubt. And it’s not a big deal. I’m not a huge fan of the writing, but HotD isn’t horrible. It’s just not all that appealing to me.

[@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0]

Yeah. I think rhaenyra even fed vaemond velaryon to her dragon

[@mktf5582]

Please read/review Echoes Saga = Fantasy and Terran Cycle = Sci Fi, by the Author = Philip C Quaintrell.

[@lawrencereid2767]

First to take the black 🖤

[@Gray-el1nh]

what happened to all your old livestreams?

[@Dahveed1982]

Have you heard of Preston Jacobs? The Sweetrobin himself?

[@MiamiGameHunter]

I can’t help but notice the coincidence that you accidentally mixed up the Blacks and the Greens once both in this and your first Dance breakdown video.

[@MrChronicpayne]

Sorry can someone who has watched this tell me - are there spoilers if one has only seen the TV show?

[@christopherthomas3403]

Yes, there are many spoilers.

[@inquisitorgarza312]

Well in simply terms all of the Dragons died and the Targaryens lost a majority of their power and this is the slow decline of their family rule.

[@manomancan]

Robert tthese are great but why are you reuploading same things? And the "travellers guide" are gone; will they be reuploaded too?

[@jf_kein_k8590]

"Only 4 dragons were still alive." And only one was under Targaryen control, I think.

[@maggiemm8867]

With all that being said where do you stand on the conspiracy by the faith to disrupt the targaryen line?

[@TheDeadlyKnight]

It was such a bloodbath

[@carriea5277]

In war there are no winners, only survivors.

[@fockewulf190d9]

Too many dragon riders and only one king, civil war was inevitable. Either the king has monopoly on dragons or there is no king. For exemple one dragon rider can take his dragon and burn the Red Keep or Dragon stone with everyone in it in one night in a surprise attack. I think that's the main reason why Valirya had no king, but was ruled together by 40 of the most powerful houses.

[@DarkKing009]

Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and now there ain't no goin' back. I mean, shit, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight! Slim Charles

[@bluesnail5042]

Yo IDG, what happened to the travels through Westeros etc series?? Those vids were great!!!

[@mojrimibnharb4584]

So, the war of the roses.

[@Vashtibucket]

One small consolation to this tragedy was that the bloodline of Otto Hightower was snuffed out when Jahaera Targaryen died. But she was still a child and did not deserve the trauma inflicted on her.

[@ilovemesomme]

I’m sure Aegon II had a bastard or three that survived. Unacknowledged of course.

[@Vashtibucket]

@@ilovemesommeTrue. Somehow it’s even more satisfying to think that Otto and Alicent are survived only by the bastards that Aegon fathered.

[@afolabiwasiu5969]

his Dance of the Dragon and house of the Dragon a different movie

[@hankpikuni7024]

I think "Aegon hurt badly" will be a huge spoiler for non-book readers.

[@johnboxler8989]

If she would have a listened to Damon and gave Hugh hammer and Alf white lordship and castles they would not have turned their cloaks. They had dragons I mean come on. They would have supported her if she gave them the honors they deserved. That was her fatal mistake

[@pjlights164]

best freakin channel on the tube

[@leonardodaackerl9212]

Are all the lord of the rings themes already done? :( Waiting not so patiently for more of those

[@lars_travolta]

I still don’t understand oh HOTD Aegon is the II and not Aegon the Uncrowned.. like how is Aegon the Uncrowned not Aegon the II??? It bothers the hell out of me lol

[@hasanmehmood19]

Targeryans on both sides lost. Maesters won. The grey rats always do.

[@daniell1483]

Seeing it all laid out like this, I can't help but see strong parallels with the story of Elden Ring, partially written by GRRM. A female leader championed by powerful, charismatic men. Am I talking about Queen Marika and Elden Lord Godfrey? Or either the Green or the Black factions? Very strong parallel no?

[@maylabrown4584]

"Ve-sar-is" not "Vi-sar-es"

[@aprilmae274]

It's Vhaegar influencing Aemond. And nobody knows which, if either, is the Other. It's a Game, and it's called Cyvesse in text. The Dragons rule the board. It's a hyper version of chess. The Green and Black are the backdrops...the real war is between Red and Gold. Tessarion is a new kind of dragon, and so Blue steps in.

[@TravisBrady-wn8fr]

Simon Cowell gave the dance a mediocre response saying " Alot of flames but no sizzle"

[@Feign_Way]

I miss Secrets of the Citadel, I wish she’d come back someday😢

[@kingstoler]

Take a drink every time 'the blacks' are mentioned

[@kyos8462]

What happened? Bad acting, writing, boring characters, and disappointment

[@Vashtibucket]

And you’re still gonna watch the episode tomorrow, so what’s your point

[@pynshaisanglyne5516]

It feel good that the black actually won

[@EduardoHernandez-ti1tc]

I have the theory that Daemond Targaryen survived the battle against Aemond, his body was never found and I got the feeling reading Fire and Blood that the dragon seed Nettles was not the lover of Daemond as Rhaenyra believed, but his barstad daughter instead, Nettles scaped after somebody told her that the queen wanted her dead I don't remember who gave her the tip, maybe Mysaria, but the point is that the body of the Rougue prince was never found and Nettles never was seen again, at least that is what I like to believe

[@vitanus]

Its a legit theory and not new. It is heavily hinted at that Nettles fled into the mountains of the moon and the theory is that Daemon could have gone with her. They can play it either way in the show, but the hints are all there. Daemon and Nettles being possible lovers Daemon being disillusioned by Rhaenyra The "Fire Witch" who made her home in the mountains right after the Dance Daemons body which has never been found Daemons and Caraxes special connection The easy way would be for Vhagar to devour Daemon, but since the hints are there, they could also go with an "happy ending" for Daemon. Remember that both his sons would be future kings as well

[@Bronzescorpion]

While one can't know for certain the books outright states that such a fairy tale shouldn't be believed and even Mushroom didn't give it credence.

[@samsamsam446]

Me too and if it stays the same in the show, that’s what I’ll forever believe is canon! 🩷😊

[@samsamsam446]

@@Bronzescorpionbut I like fairytales! 💕 I want to believe! 🥺

[@vitanus]

@@Bronzescorpion all the more reason for it to be true tbh. Remember that books are written by someone with an intention ;)

[@enlighten92]

Interesting that you pronounce Viserys as Vyserys. Of course, it doesnt matter. Its all fiction 😅

[@rektz2457]

The Greens won when Rhaenyra died. Idgaf, what anyone else says

[@samsamsam446]

Yeah…😢

[@InquisitorXarius]

The Hightowers were (are?) the problem

[@IsmailNuzaifKokky]

.

[@MachoSasq]

I’m hoping daemon is going survive the fall, and than decide to live a simple life after the destruction, and death he saw during the war.

[@jleisner1974]

decimated means 10%

[@bad72690]

No it doesn't. The colloquial usage of the word obviously doesn't mean that.

[@jleisner1974]

@@bad72690 yes, it does. Colloquially IMPLIED to mean the opposite, but the actual definition means 10%. Goes back to the Romans.

[@DeCapitanOG]

Its trash.

[@ilovemesomme]

You would know

[@DeCapitanOG]

@@ilovemesomme you insult yourself by acting like a toddler. 🤣

[@ilovemesomme]

@@DeCapitanOG you insult your family by living the way you do

[@DeCapitanOG]

@@ilovemesomme lmfao. You're a pajeet.🤣

[@appleratpipe]

Black propaganda

[@flavius5722]

A very poor writen book , the idea of presenting it like a history record was crap ,because a history record need exactly what GRRM was never good at : concrete numbers and timline I dont recomand the book to nobody , it has the narative of a wikipedia page , and his core message seems to be made for childrens : War baaad , peace goood , and of course some dick jokes told by Tyrion 2.0 who only childrens will laugh at This book is the image of diyng talent of Martin

[@jenniferpearce1052]

You miss the point. History doesn't have concrete numbers or an exact timeline. It has the narratives as recorded by people who decide that their narrative will be considered the exact truth and the records and observations of those who were there will be discounted because they made dick jokes.

[@umarheadcutter7189]

Team green won and they killed rhaeneya

[@Vashtibucket]

And then team green lost when Aegon II was poisoned. Technically the blacks did win. Rhaenyra’s son was put on the throne.