The Danger Of Assuming The Worst

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[@twinsmainsageDBD]

I'm so sorry if y'all got like 3+ pings for this same video - I was having issues trying to get the audio into the right range and it was driving me fricking insane

[@aheartoflove377]

XD

[@Sigourneyporpoise]

lmao i thought it was my shi**y headphones

[@WeskintimeASVAL679-89]

Unfortunately in modern day PVP, sweating means “They did not let me win.”. I have been labeled as “sweaty” for even letting the survivors go after doing *nothing* personal; just doing the event stuff.

[@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647]

I've also been called sweaty for not blatantly throwing. Like any time I decide NOT to chase a 0 Hook Survivor in a strong looping area (And I hardly use Anti-Loop Killers) when there is only one or two Gens left. Ah but then I'm sweating via "Puppy Gaurding a Gen." Nah I just know it it's a bit smarter to do...well anything else BUT that 😭

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

@@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647 My favorite is when people accuse me of sweating for using my power. "YOU MARKED ME TOO EARLY AND I WENT DOWN IN ONE, SWEATY GHOSTFACE MAIN WHY DO ALL GHOSTFACE SWEAT SO HARD" ... we don't? We literally don't. We just play the game.

[@Hyperdisk]

Shout out to the folks last night who let me chase survivors while carrying another survivor, while staying crouched as they "ran away". That was a funny match -Eldrich Turkey

[@Zakon673]

I think the real problem is not sweating, it's villifying the act of wanting to win at the video game. Like I'm not even talking about playing high tier killers and aggressively tunneling, or running multiple BNPs in a SWF. I mean just, using good perks and some gen regression as killer is sweating? Though I will admit that I've seen a couple of Nurses, a character who cannot really use the event power, and who do not interact with the event at all. They're free to do so if they wish, but I have to wonder why they queued for the event mode if they're not going to play with the new toys.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

I saw one hardcore tunnel Blight with strong gen slowdown and aura read. ONE. It's not as prevalent as people think.

[@D3ATH2GL0RY]

I’ve been using Chucky and the Matches have varied greatly from “The Killer Moonwalks and has personality, boop the plastic snoot” to “The Killer Tunneled Me (after my teammate saved me in front of his face) so he’s a Toxic Sweaty A##hole!”.

[@HyrulianArcher]

This. This is the only multiplayer game I've ever seen were even putting in the minimal amount of effort to win on either side makes you a bad person. It's wild.

[@OldManShane]

As I like to say/think, "most people are just doing their best". Slightly different, but I feel like it's got the same energy. Helps me a lot, not just in DBD, either, but in all aspects of life.

[@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647]

Killers: TYPICAL 4 MAN SWEAT SQUAD. PROBABLY CALLING OUT MY EVERY MOVE. My friends and I: *In a VC just making Spongebob references. Also we're running the goofy Nic Cage Perks.* I also dislike how participating in any INCLUDED GAMEPLAY mechanics is also called bullying. People say I'm bullying the Killer and I'm like "...I got ONE flashy save."

[@NelsonMcCulloch]

I’m definitely going to need to take that energy going into the next week of the event. Because I did have multiple rough games in a row as survivor that made me despise the other side. Game that “confirmed” everything I was thinking. Had to take a step back even at one point and realize that the TTV that had tunnelled me out immediately had literally just started playing the game and probably even knew less about how to play they character they were playing. I had bad games as Killer too, where everything just felt like it was slipping away, where I was simply struggling to play the game. It wasn’t until Killer though that I was able to just……let go. And breath. Embrace the energy. I’m taking a break from DbD right now. I clearly need to sort stuff out if I’m feeling that. Hopefully next week I can embrace the energy better.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

I'm unable to play until tomorrow as Killer so I'm forced to have a break, but yes, I had the same experience as Survivor. I just didn't want to bother with Killer Mode when games were that nasty.

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

I don't think (most) people are sweating in the event, I think they're (mostly) just playing how they would normally play and because it isn't all farming and hugs, people with a certain expectation of how players do or should behave during a major event are experiencing disparity between their expectations and the actual outcome. In summary, it's a "you" problem. Not like, YOU, Sage, but those peop- look I think you get it, since I'm basically saying what you said but slightly different 😂

[@nuclearpugg]

People are playing how they normally play because the event is literally the same exact thing from last year

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

@@nuclearpugg This is true of the modes too. Everyone figured out the first time and they are just... playing the mode the best way to do well. All these events and modes are the same as last time. And it's notable that the accusation of sweat is almost always, 9/10 times, leveled at Killers because to be KIller is to naturally, as an antagonist, be hated. People didn't sweat as Killer in Lights Out, they figured out what worked and they used it. People didn't sweat as Killer in the Masquerade and never do, they just are playing normally and using the tools they have.

[@TheAquaAuthor]

3 AM upload satisfies my late night content hunger and stops me from thinking the unhappy thoughts :D

[@Kofja]

I have noticed an increase in my games to slug for the 4k after that mori change.

[@ImBlueDaBaDeeDaBaDaa]

One of my friends got slugged and mori-ed 4 times in a row back to back matches yesterday, when before she didn't experience that much before they did the mori change. It made it very unfun for her, and I felt bad for her 😢

[@FemboyKaiSaku]

So many people complain about sweats and to me it just doesn't make sense. Most people who play this game are TRYING to win, saying the buzzword "sweat" doesn't make a difference. You cant expect people to not try, and you cant assume somebody trying is some personal attack

[@Dad_Bot]

Great video!! Our killers were mostly friendly when we played!

[@gaminglulunightmare6092]

This is part of the reason I stopped playing killer cus I didn't want to get bullied or even sent toxic hate mail. I really didn't feel like dealing with to the point I Stopped all together eventually cus I was tired of even toxic killers. Watching your videos have made me want to play again but I honestly still feel shaky at times especially when I think about playing killer side.

[@Sigourneyporpoise]

i always tell people that my personal golden rule is "expect nothing, and you'll either have known that was gonna happen, or its gonna be better to some degree than you thought! if its worse, well you were expecting it" it applies to pretty much everything lol

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

Thank you Sage, I needed to hear all this. Badly.

[@0bashie]

love this, thank you for pointing it out

[@ThermositySRC]

I really like this video. I definitely think most people are playing more or less exactly how they would normally be playing and are not sweating or try harding. I personally really like the event myself. I enjoy that the pumpkins respawn and there seems to be a large number of them compared to previous Halloween events. I also LOVE the new bigger Void, I get Dark Souls vibes in there and would love to see a full scale map of the Void one day. Thank you for creating a positive video about the event, it is very refreshing to see.

[@justaguy2182]

I think it’s less that people are sweating, and more that a lot of people think both sides should be more lenient since it’s an event. I would rather have a challenging game though, so I don’t mind a bit if people want to make me work for my wins.

[@ClownCarCats]

Yep, Yep, Yep, Yeah I agree with this whole video! I’ve always tried to have a positive perception of dbd and it’s players. Because at the end of the day it is a mental thing. If I started thinking badly of them, they don’t all magically become mean players. My perception would’ve just changed. I don’t want that, I like thinking the best of people it’s nice :)

[@thefluffyaj4119]

THISSSSS I LITERALLY THINK ABT THIS ALL THE TIME!! especially recently, i have a friend newer to dbd i play with sometimes. there used to not be a problem, but recently theyve been getting so mad about tunneling and throw the word around even when hooks are evenly spread. and its just really killing the mood for both of us. i, a 2,000 hour player, try to tell them "i mean i dont think so?" and then they get pissy and quiet. theyve been complaining a lot more lately, abt how theyre always tge first to die (they are new in a game thats extremly beginner unfriendly. they havent accepted dying a fuck ton is just part of survivor, and you get a bit better at surviving as you get more experience even though survivor will usually always involve dying a lot) and killer befriending people and even got mad at the killer "puppyguarding the gates" when i was trying to open them after killer closed hatch and abt the killer camping after all gates are done. and ive just been noticing how theyve become only anle to see the negative. i understand whete theyre coming from, dbd can suck sometimes, but i just miss when they where newer and we where just goofing off together innocently without wirrying about winning. we always died, but we had a good time and i think thats the real goal of dbd

[@cannonman7122]

Another reason is SBMM which just reinforces that negativity after winning a single game you will have several bad ones.😢😢

[@Simon0103]

Honestly the only thing that has irritated me during this event so far is survivors crying about me "not playing in a fun way" like ???????????????????????????? Sorry, my definition of fun isnt being flashed every 2 sec, walking around doing nothing or meme:ing, i wanna play the game and have it be fairly competitive. You cannot cry about me playing "unfun" when you bring 4 flashlights to bully me or 4 toolboxes to do gens hella quick, then ofc I will play to atleast draw. The amount of people who complain in this gamemode while simultaneously playing "unfun" themselves is actaully crazy to me. Hypocrisy at its finest. Like some other guy said "sweating means "they did not let me win" " For example, just played a game and all gens got done in maybe 7 min ish, I slugged one survivor in the realm to try something out. I know you cant get healed bcs youre broken in there, so i wanted to see if you can even pick anyone up from the ground. They rest of em opened exit gates, ran in to save, and ended up all getting downed. Who complained about it? Perhaps was it the sable who I first downed in there? Nope... she thought it was a good strat and said they might try it out themselves. Mr Jake paul tho on the other hand who was the last person i downed wrote a whole essay in chat why im not allowed to play like that bcs its not fun for him. Well at the end of the day, me and Sable had a great time.

[@isetacuatro7937]

I play killer as I normally would, hooking, kicking, chasing, normally, But I try to be friendly when the survivors are. I reckon, as a killer, I dictate the course of the match, and if I wanted to sweat, I'd go to the place to sweat, and not ruin some survivors' fun, (unless someone teabags in a toxic way, that triggers the hell outta me(gotta work on that))

[@HyrulianArcher]

Truly amazing video. I've thought this forever. Every single person in this community needs to watch this video and actually LISTEN to what you are saying in this video. Wonderful video from you as always!

[@twinsmainsageDBD]

Thank you so much

[@YourPetSnake]

i’ve been having more fun in this event than the regular mode because it’s a fun switch up. i feel like i’m missing out on something because a lot of people are complaining about people playing in boring ways but i genuinely haven’t seen any change in play style compared to the regular game

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

It confuses me when people say "Killers always sweat and do the same things" in general. I don't see Killers do that... hardly ever. Rather, I just see Killers playing the game. Like, normally. Most Killers are playing the game NORMALLY. In other words... some Survivors deadass look at the Killer, see the KIller has a strong setup that they can't handle, and go "GIVE ME A CHANCE THIS ISN'T FAIR, YOU'RE SWEATING SO HARD ;~;" But the Killer doesn't have to "give you a chance" any more than you have to let the Killer win. You are not entitled to success.

[@Netugi]

Some sobering moments for me while playing the game is, in the past, getting frustrated with survivors leaving me on hook for example, seemingly playing selfishly, but later watching a small streamer just vibing and chatting with viewers, but in their distraction realize too late that their teammate got left on hook and felt bad. Or on the flip side, watching a killer steam roll us with a sweaty build, but then seeing the most down-to-earth killer mains on twitch taking the game seriously, but it's nothing personal and they're just playing the game how they enjoy playing it. It's easy to assume these people are selfish pricks, but often that's not the case. Maybe they're just scared and lack the confidence to make bold plays, maybe they're playing with a friend or two and they're shooting the shit with each other, maybe they're distracted by their tome challenges, maybe it's just the Solo Queue Experience TM and your team mates don't understand what each other are doing, everyone thinks someone else will get you and no one does. Of course, there are the toxic people, the people who DC at the sight of a killer they don't like or give up on hook, the 4k slugging killers who hump you after. But I think more often than not people are not malicious or entirely selfish. I think if you can just accept the chaos of online PVP games, learn to go with the flow when players are sweaty vs just playing casually and being goofballs, and to not take things so personally, the game won't be so frustrating to play and you can appreciate the good times more. Hell, even if someone is being directly toxic to you, just understand that's their problem, you don't need to give them your energy, they're an insecure toxic mess projecting all their problems onto you, and you can simply stop interacting with them at their level, you're better than that.

[@Pootez]

I was caught in the act of tryharding and proxy-camping as huntress during the event. The survivors who called me out on this were very informative and told me to "go chase a survivor". So next time, when I know every survivor is not doing gens or resetting, but rather swarming the hook (I have an aura build because I tryhard), I will proceed to chase a healthy survivor away from every important gen, while the rest of their team resets. It is responsibility... Nay, it is my pleasure, to play in the way that encourages the other team to attain more pressure without adjusting their approach of the situation. I will also stop playing like "a terrible huntress", by going for risky/creative shots that mostly miss, and mostly play unique killers every game. This is unacceptable, and is naturally grounds for name-calling. From now on, I will only go for tedious and guaranteed shots because it's more fun for both sides. Also, I've realized my mistake in only using the event void to chase a survivor, interact with the portals, attain the event ability and creatively flank. As a wise person once said; "Go play the normal mode if you want to tryhard and not interact with the event. I came here to have fun with the event". Next time, I will be more diligent in spending 75% of my time in the void, especially when the opposing team barely go in there. Lastly, I will definitely never 4k using these tactics again. My road to redemption has begun.

[@ahbraveconscript997]

Yes, don’t give in to peer pressure and believe anything you hear based on anecdotal evidence, make up your own fun!

[@OrangeCatIntellect]

Its funny cause today I was playing the event with some people and we ran into a very strong Spirit. She had Enduring, Genetic Limits, Deadlock, Surge and good add-ons. I ran Unbreakable, DH, Finesse and Desperate Measures. When I play killer I also run meta - Corrupt, Grim, Pain Res, Pop but tend to play more chill. Play whatever you want. Egc is not your morale compass.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

Message understood, Ghostface with endgame and gen hold time.

[@slimeking4777]

During events i sometimes play friendly matches as killer but when I'm not im usually doing a challenge because challenges are easier when playing killer but i have had an odd influx of rude or tryhardy survivors

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

It's probably JUST because it's the start of the season. That always increases both sides rn, and people conflate that with "oh people tryhard during the event." it's just confirmation bias.

[@Sir_Noperope]

i try and see the best in people but when i get destroyed event or not, i will expect the salt i dont think its good but id rather brace myself for something not happening then something that does and im not ready for it

[@Zasuky0]

Based, appreciate the thoughtful content

[@vicjctanuki7344]

Getting into this game a year ago, one of the many things I kept hearing over and over is that dbd players will complain about anything. I played a game today as killer and tryed my best to re-learn ghost face on an old build I had. I only got one kill and then got a "gg,are you ok and don't run no end" thankfully they were a good sport but like I wasn't really "try harding" but I notice this alot from both killer and survivor matches.

[@Soapeater1846]

When one side is toxic then it makes the other side toxic . I’m just here for fun :3

[@steeveedragoon]

honestly, I'm just having fun while doing the challenges and getting irredescent shards for all the killers that are half off. sure there's going to be a bad game or 2, but most of them are fun. I probably have this mindset because I'm a casual killer main though. I'm not all that worried about having the best perks or the most optimal build.

[@momo-e9s3r]

I appreciate the work you put into this and the message, but I'd like to respectfully add a point of disagreement (I don't disagree with everything). I think the DBD community at some point also created a sort of built-in protection mechanism for the designers of the game. Way too often, I see complaints from either side, with the general vibe of "hey, I'm not really having as much fun as I used to have" and then it turns into this pseudo-psychological deconstruction about how the community "complains too much" or "people just need to learn to shrug x y z off" and I think the intent of that is all well and good, but it misses the fundamental message. DBD's design has become increasingly frustrating as the years go by, as the game gets more popular, and certain groups take it more seriously / others take it less seriously. Things have happened, and the designers of the game have stopped trying to be proactive, and I would argue even lag behind to REACT to things that happen to the state of DBD. I don't feel like enough pressure is put on them to address the very valid criticisms of "hey, I'm just not having as much fun anymore" from both killers and survivors. That's their job, and they haven't been doing it well. But at some point, we started this back and forth discourse of "the playerbase" and ultimately choose to point back the finger at ourselves, all while BHVR primarily focus on increasing monetization and put dev resources *away* from this game. I think we would be more effective to get them to respond, rather than trying to change the mentality and psychology of /every player in the game/ tbh.

[@twinsmainsageDBD]

I agree that the devs could do a better job responding to the playerbase and especially improving upon the core game. HOWEVER I'm not interested in making a video addressing the devs when they don't even really listen to their own fog whisperers. I've seen Otz make (valid) criticisms to the developers that got completely ignored. It feels more productive and fulfilling for me to talk about issues that I myself have seen than to yell into the void and hope I get an answer. I can't change the base game, nor can I realistically reach anyone that can change the base game. The best I can do is try to make the dbd space a more positive place, that's all I'm trying to do.

[@momo-e9s3r]

​@@twinsmainsageDBD yeah, I get that and I think that's all valid. Like I said, I also still appreciate you making this and just your content in general so please don't at all think I'm like trying to "no, actually!" you. We need content creators who do this. In writing my first comment I actually stopped to think, "well why did we stop criticizing the devs?" and I think that you touched on the same thing that came to mind for me as well: years of them not engaging with the community. I've seen Otz's videos and he really is one of the most kind, level-headed and honestly fair people whose takes genuinely feel like sincere attempts to make the game healthier, and more long lasting. I've also noticed that over the years he seems to feel really disillusioned with the devs actually taking that feedback into account. It's quite sad. But I think that leaves us where we're at, a playerbase that gives the devs a free pass because they haven't listened in the past. That doesn't feel right either, no? I don't know the solution, just think it's interesting to observe is all.

[@twinsmainsageDBD]

I think you brought up a good point, I was a little frustrated that the message I was trying to get across in my video was being overshadowed by core game issues that I couldn't possibly fix. But I appreciate the comments nonetheless. Good to think about.

[@saihiko9967]

I mean i got like one annoying billy and they basically got 2 kills early game, and the killer just decided to slug, even though me and the other last survivor was doing gens, idk why the slug but it was whatever i guess My advice for the event, Open portals and grab the smoke grenade and leave right away, no point what's so ever to stay in the void Same as killer, don't stay in the void too long. Event is funny in my opinion, with the smoke bombs. The void is funny to loop for a bit if you're in a dead zone, better than nothing.

[@acrazysheepdog1555]

The new event (at least in killer side) is just irritating to me. Gens do go by fast, and the new event (if the survivors know how to use it well) is just frustrating. I don’t hate them for doing it, they’re using what’s available at the moment to help them win the game, but damn does it feel like it’s sometimes impossible to have fun with this event as killer. As survivor? Hell yeah I love it, especially since I get to collect all kinds of things and use them afterwards while killers in this event can’t use the blight serum or arcane rod offering after the event. Just my two-cents on it.

[@xblackrozx6007]

I played yesterday with my duo and we had 7 escapes in a row. We were dumbfounded as we weren't expecting to breeze through games lmao Basically, i had the OPPOSITE experience from everyone: I expected tunneling and every meta possible and I won instead

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

I had legit one win and one loss like CLOCKWORK until the sweatier hours with tougher gamers hit.

[@xXSTEEL-LEGENDSX]

Your awesome I love how much I agree with everything you say ❤

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

The problem is that the game is too optimized. Everyone knows exactly what to do and plays super well, and unfortunately this is the kind of game where optimal gameplay isnt really fun to play against for most folks. It also just means that the events get optimized super quickly too.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

All the fun modes have been optimized to hell and back too. I am very very scared for 2v8.

[@shiverse9868]

I cant say if this means much, but Ive had my worst DBD experience in ages on the latest event. Im having a lot of fun on the event, and like it tbh, but this killer sits on top of the hatch (while its open) to wait until I approach, and afterward I try to get a chase in and (being The Game) I walk into a small room with for some reason one entrance, where I just... sat there... injured... until timer ticked from max to 0. They then said "I need to raise mmr"??? (even tho i dont think events have mmr/dbd mmr is mostly useless) :/ I think people are being too hard on the event, its not amazing, but its not bad, but Ive never seen such a... petty attitude seemingly from the last match to that kind of extent. Not bannable since timer, and im not one to rage at games so whatev, but just unnecessary af.

[@kadecooper7074]

I feel like the event encourages playing for fun rather than try harding tbh.

[@fogdragon23]

I ignore the people in games yelling "sweat" or "tryhard". I just assume they are new or inexperienced players as that's often the case.

[@alibi324]

Part of this I think is also part due to people getting better, meaning they go against better players as time goes on (dont mind the new PFP)

[@Dqpeanutbuster]

I actually feel like you're one of the most, if not, the most positive DBD youtuber.

[@twinsmainsageDBD]

That's wonderful to hear! That's what I want to be

[@Dqpeanutbuster]

@@twinsmainsageDBD Im glad. Usually all the other DBD KZbinrs are "The game is dying, this side is this, this side is that" nonsense.

[@Jiwonisim]

Disrespectful comment

[@thomas-stilinski8149]

Im having the opposite problem im a killer main and ever since this event started most teams i play against just dont even play the game guess they want me to be one of those killers with "personality"

[@mewmedic]

100% agree

[@ambershangout7226]

I don’t like the easy access to flashlights in the event

[@coffeebreak7978]

iv been somewhat silly somewhat tryhard depending on the match, generally if someone brings a map offering ill crank up the try hardness, in the same view if a little lad or lass runs up to me to play the guitar iv been known to become a little silly. but like poeple on both sides are always trying to win, events are never any different then nonevents lot of people find winning fun and try to win cant blame em, just you notice it more when your looking for it.

[@Jiwonisim]

Hateful and angry comment

[@qhoil]

Vic approved

[@geheimkanal6968]

I feel like no one try to do fun stuff because they don´t want to trow the game but also expect the ohter side to waist time, hits for a fun moment. If you just Chase a Surv and hook without showing ANY kind of reaction than the surv hase no oputinito to do fun shit with you. The same on the ohter side. If you don´t try to do somthing funny that is not the most effectif thing in the round than don´t expect the ohterside to do it. I main Mirror Myers because of the funny moments that is happening during the match and I have a lot more fun than playing a Blight and just play the most effectiv way possibel. This is a Multiplayer game and in Multiplayer games you make your fun with the ohter players. Its not just happening automaticlly.

[@Jiwonisim]

yeahh I dont think either side is "sweating" I think they're just playing it like a normal match. however I think a "normal match" has just become more sweaty as a whole. And I don't really see why people wouldn't when overall the gamemode doesn't effect gameplay too much. I also think that "sweating" in dbd is tossed around as commonly as people breathe air. "they're genrushing" when survivors literally just do gens. or "their build is toxic" when it's just using the objectively good perks. It's kinda lame how quick people are to complain just bc they aren't having friendlies of either side. or worse god forbid people who just want to play the game

[@twinsmainsageDBD]

wow I can't believe how DISRESPECTFUL this is (jkjk) People are quick to be the gamer that cried "toxic" or"sweaty" or "tryhard"

[@emeraldsky2823]

Nice vid!

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

*"this video is private"* Just teasing, love you Sage! (In a totally platonic, parasocial way)

[@Lethaldiran-EU]

They whole idea that people will sweat less in an event is simply wrong people will always optimize their builds and playstyle to win. And people simply do sweat because they want to win. I disagree I have had way more killers sweat a 4k than not.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

Funny, I have had way more SURVIVORS sweat for every possible way to delay that first hook and get a four man out in five minutes than Killers... I guess it goes both ways.

[@CinderWolfGaming]

Completely agree and understand the sway of suggestion, however there are plenty of Killers playing the event just to RUIN the fun, slugging at 5 gens, bringing NOED, Devour, starstruck just a full insta-down build, and humping on the ground 80% of the matches, or worst of all Infinite Tombstone Myers is not something my team an I run across often in normal DBD matches so it certainly feels like the event is more so toxic then the average match, on the flip side we have had nice farming killers too so its a mixed bag of jellybeans just feels like more rotten jellybeans then normal lol

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

You're falling prey to the same thing she points out here. Not a soul is out there ruining the event for anyone, instead try saying "They are playing how they normally would, and just want to win more than I do."

[@xtremefps_]

Nah I just play to win. Some matches I just suck and they win. Killer main tho so I 3-4k a lot. I suck as a survivor and don't get out often with my friends. A lot of times I'm caught out of place and don't have a jungle gym to loop or a strong filler pallet or the pallet is already used that I wanted

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

I don't think most people are able to view "Oh I just suck" as a positive thing in any way and your view doesn't work for everyone. Not everyone can or does want to "play to win". I think most people just play to have fun, and winning is just one way to have fun. If you always play for the win, I think most people will then be very disappointed and sad when they lose, because what the hell? They played to win, they should have won, this game sucks the other side is sweaty it's not possibly ME having had a bad match. What I am saying is I do see your viewpoint and it's valid. But for most people, that viewpoint i think leads to more anger and stress, not less. It's a rare person who can go "Oh well I just suck" and shrug it off.

[@STEVEYTHEEXEEVEE]

ugh not another upload from this person. DBD players "assume" the worst, cause the community is an endless cycle of toxicity and no you cannot "break the cycle" by being different. if you go in positive, you'll endu p disappointed with endless teammates who are way under the reccomended playing age of the game underperfomring, selling you out or NOT PLAYING THE DAMN GAME. People giving up on first hook, people not touching gens. as killer you'll spontaneously find the survivors you SHOULD HAVE playing the game, proritizing gens, hopping on gens the microsecond you dont have their attention...