The Dangerous Reason Vegeta Will NEVER use Super Saiyan 3

[@antongoykhman]

What a stupid, useless transformation. He changed his hair, so what?

[@kamitenshi3825]

You still wished he could do it though.

[@qadam7]

Hahahahahahaha I laugh at your stupidity

[@frankksong]

Dead Reaper u guys know that he is referencing ssj3 transformation scene right?

[@qadam7]

F r a n k k S o n g obviously

[@HandledToaster2]

supersayjangoku whooooosh

[@Dustpetro]

He won't go ssj3 because it drains the stamina of the animators too quick

[@TechStarr]

lmao best comment i've seen

[@Dustpetro]

Thanks bro! Quick question: what video editing software do you use?

[@TechStarr]

Vegas 15

[@thabreaka]

Dustin Petrosky hahaha best reason

[@FermisAxiom]

Actually the truth

[@Friskyboi_-]

The dangerous reason y he will never use it: He doesn't want to i just saved u 5 minutes

[@oneeyedghoulgodzack]

Thanks

[@CarlJohnson-gq8hw]

They're lazy to animate all that hair

[@seanotoole7267]

Thanks

[@MrFresh107]

Thank you hero

[@skream98]

You saved my 6 minutes and 39 seconds. I'm forever indebted to you. XD

[@babyisqueen9300]

When berus slapped Bulma and Vegeta was like My Bulma!!!! That was the best time to give it too him

[@cellthatboi6483]

It really was bro

[@rhinoragegt9020]

For real though man.

[@darcellmitchell5150]

Right even thou despite beerus still stronger and ssj3 lack of energy controll he wouldnt stayed in that form but i would love to see that

[@babyisqueen9300]

@@darcellmitchell5150 ikr I just feel like if they wanted him to get it that was the perfect time to give it too him but it's totally useless now tho

[@babyisqueen9300]

@ oh yeah

[@TheGamingSharieff]

Literally the 1% people who’s reading... May your parents Live More Than 100 years with good health 🙏

[@oscarjackson7992]

Bruh

[@instinct5981]

Wow what a good guy

[@instinct5981]

May you love 100 years with good health also

[@quazy9787]

I don’t think they wanna live that long neither would I

[@izzysnips4198]

*tips hat in appreciation

[@kajioverheaven7520]

If nappa went SSJ3 he would have a taper fade, hightop fade, drop fade, or high drop fade...change my mind.

[@jerseyscum9126]

And a black pyramid vest

[@kristianbrannan9961]

his mustache would touch the floor

[@dhanish9009]

and grow 1 hair

[@dannytenorio1242]

Big Guala this is the funniest shit I’ve ever read on KZbin lmao

[@rayedabdullah2968]

Vegeta: Godammit Nappa! Let me use SSJ3 PLEASE GOD!!! Nappa:😣😣😣😳😳😭😭😭😭😭😢

[@Maniseesbothsides]

Why won't Vegeta get Super Saiyan 3, simply because Writing

[@TechStarr]

Yeah. I said it was an animation decision at the end literally

[@edit4310]

Thank you! lol Finally ppl realise

[@kevinx80]

Tech Starr why spoil the whole video. I made it 20 seconds in before reading this comment. No point finishing

[@edit4310]

It's not spoiling the video, Goten. It's the REAL reason. Tech star is providing interesting "in-universe" alternatives. The 'boring' but real answer is script. That's not spoiling that's just common sense

[@kevinx80]

Tony Mangaka how did he not spoil his video? I have no reason to finish watching, it was animation. You just further spoiled it. You don’t need to talk just because you want to, you know.

[@Nestle245]

Simply because his hairline will be further back than LeBron's if he ever did.

[@j_m_xsolosis671]

Lol

[@ViolenceCity]

☠️

[@freshtapzrapzproductx5316]

Ness Rosenbrad LOL

[@eniolatijani2670]

Yoo chil

[@ProlificPops]

LMAOO

[@austinnunez2031]

I always thought they’d somehow come back to ss3 and perfect it, the hair is still long but much shorter, and ki consumption isn’t as draining as before, but you still get the power and speed boost. This way it allows their further forms to be pushed to higher levels of strength as then ss3 becomes more heavily utilized and their higher forms benefit from a new stepping point in strength

[@round105]

I guess he can maintain it for longer since now under the tutelage of whis vegeta and goku don't release their energy anymore. Still it zaps your energy while in the form. Ss blue does zap your energy but only when transforming

[@stevefilms1997]

Well super saiyan blue is super saiyan god gone super saiyan, so vegetas royal blue can likely be considered super saiyan god gone super saiyan 2 which means next he can do super saiyan god gone super saiyan 3

[@kingangel3252]

@@stevefilms1997 come on bro. Now you KNOW that will never happen. It literally would be one of the best transformation to date .

[@RealSlxzz]

@@stevefilms1997 Actually Vegetas boosted Super Saiyan God gone Super Saiyan is basically like Super Saiyan grade 2 so basically Super Saiyan God gone Super Saiyan 1.5/second grade/Grade 2 because Super Saiyan god gone super saiyan 2 would be Super Saiyan God 3 or in regular ssj form matter for more clarity: SSJ 1 --> SSJ SSJ = SS2 --> SS2 SSJ -> SSJ 3 | SSG --> SSG 2 = SSG SSJ or SSB --> SSG 2.5 = SSG SSJ 1.5 or just SSG 2 Evolved or just SSB Evolution = SSG 2.5 or SSB 1.5 = Second Grade and then Evolution. We are still yet to see Super Saiyan God 3 and Super Saiyan God gone Super Saiyan 3 is SSG 4 cus SSG SSJ SSJ SSJ = SSG 4 | SSG ( Base God Form) SSJ = SSB (God Form 2) SSJ = (Not seen yet) (God Form 3) SSJ (God form 4)

[@alajndress]

Because he would look like Blonde Raditz

[@G3RM3X617]

Super saiyan nappa 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@j.d.c9778]

@@G3RM3X617 can napppa even turn super saiyan since hed bald?

[@DPlusFive777]

Hell yeah

[@pawelujazdowski7397]

Yes, also apparently N. isn't bald - he just shaves his dumb head.

[@doublejesusful]

@@pawelujazdowski7397 Yeah but a saiyans hair doesn't grow, so once nappa cut his hair off it was never gonna come back. They can grow facial hair apparently though lol

[@josheeyzgaming3662]

His forehead will look bigger

[@TechStarr]

lmao

[@Bladefire13]

Lol

[@Johanisnotreal]

Almost too big

[@newagerise4638]

hey get off that man's forehead it's not his fault

[@Pantherenjoyer]

Lamo, I can't breathe rn I'm dead that shit is hilarious

[@TheMrNathwoz]

He doesn't use it because when he goes Super Saiyan it boosts his ki attacks more and Super Saiyan 3 is only for close quarters combat fighting and we know Vegeta is a Ki based guy

[@sedtornado1178]

First comment worthy enough for a like

[@jay2elite93]

TheMrNathwoz yeah it’s true

[@priestskorge]

This aint xenoverse 😆 ss a multiplier for all power doesnt boost just ki attack lmao!

[@Yoski1337]

Lmao Xenoverse stats spotted.

[@uveermadho1471]

I sense a xenoverse player

[@ShubhamGupta-xb1om]

Got this recommendation after the New Episode of Dragonball Super Heroes where Vegeta turned SSJ3 😂

[@jotarokujo6119]

Hahahaha Ironic

[@alexisgalvan5810]

Y u spoil the episode

[@sphamandlamazubane2789]

SON OF A BITCH

[@LITTLE1994]

Same, though that's not canon.

[@gamingextreme2663]

mate dragonball heroes ain't cannon

[@smittythetaxcollector2239]

Also, if you noticed, Vegeta is really a ki build. He uses ki attacks more than most of the Z Fighters. So why would he use a transformation that drains the ki and requires him to change his entire fighting style?

[@TechStarr]

that was the point of the whole video

[@kaikwonfu2633]

Just Arty Stuff - Roy Smith Yet still uses ki less than goku.

[@smittythetaxcollector2239]

I was just supporting what you had said with that little statement. All you said was that he doesn't use such a useless form with such drawbacks, which is true. I was jut backing it up with the fact that he uses Ki more on average than anyone. It wasn't trying to bring in a whole new point. It was just working as backup.

[@smittythetaxcollector2239]

Kai Kwon Fu He uses less ki because he is smart about his combat strategy. He won't waste his energy on a simple boost when another boost could do the job just as easily.

[@smittythetaxcollector2239]

Self Reliance And I did watch the video in its entirety. Read my other comment and don't jump to conclusions

[@stronaut]

wana know the real reason? too much of a pain in the ass to draw and animate

[@yumei5130]

Johnny yi Yes 2: It takes up to much ki form Vegeta correct me if I am wrong

[@sherryx9930]

Vegtio Z gamer bro its just the lazy writer and toriama removed tails even just cuz he found it hard drawing them

[@peteypaul7877]

Yup

[@simonz9534]

Right on point! Knew this way back.

[@SumeragiChain]

@@sherryx9930 And here I thought they removed their tails because it made them turn into an uncontrollable great ape and become weak if someone grabs them by the tail... Who would have thought it was because it was hard to animate a tail...

[@wonderbaby5200]

The true reason why vegeta doesnt' go ssj3 is becuz He doesn't want to lose his eyebrows

[@premilagivens3418]

Smk smk t-t-hahahaa

[@mummy1915]

I thought that too lol

[@splokepopk797]

Lol

[@olos6149]

Actually made me lol

[@allseeingeye4015]

Haha

[@SuperFan_channel]

6 years later, he gets ssj3

[@lefelipe5820]

I think its because he doesn't want to lose his *eyebrows*

[@tienkami]

Super Alea Lol haha. That is funny .

[@gauravwadhwa1582]

If its that he has also not achieved SSG and in ssg there are eyebrows

[@rodlurks66]

gaurav wadhwa - He has achieved SSG, not sure if they did the ritual for him but he has the form (how else would he have blue?)

[@jondysayz]

@@gauravwadhwa1582 he does have ssg. In the manga, when fighting zamasu, he fights in ssg form while bursting into blue to utilize it more efficiently.

[@justinmagee2203]

Hahahahahahahaha lookin like the geico caveman

[@joanaenninful1883]

Because vegeta's forehead will double up

[@joanaenninful1883]

@Dabi Flame_Quirk thanks

[@Josue-d7o3x]

I-i... am speechless you're the only genius in the comment section...

[@trunks9233]

Yup

[@yumei5130]

Joana Enninful I would tell you the truth lad, but ever one things that's true so I'm not even going to mate.

[@rShlime]

Nigga look at yours😂😂😂

[@liamjennings2564]

Goku : hey vegeta wanna here a joke? Vegeta : okay Goku : super saiyan 3 Vegeta : i don't get it Goku : hell yeah ya don't

[@kainmacleod423]

Liam Jennings 😂🤣😆

[@diegovalencia9443]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHH

[@christopherkelley8192]

😂

[@lovestravelstop8055]

Been used over a thousand times...

[@elidagoat6742]

I remember that joke from years ago 🙄

[@JazzyKitsune69]

Video is now 100% outdated XD

[@________________h8nu51]

He loves his eyebrows

[@LuisHernandez-ix4oz]

tsuno yang 😂

[@soulfulsolomon]

LMAO facts!

[@thabreaka]

tsuno yang facts

[@Brionick]

Underrated comment 😂😂

[@waffleimeanwulfi2884]

The dangerous reason... Drawing the hair...

[@TechStarr]

Everything else is based off the context of the lore but yes it was an animation decision

[@noon4576]

As an artist, hair is simple to sketch. However, body parts that require severe anatomy practice ( Hands, feet, poses , different perspectives ) are difficult.

[@InvntdXNEWROMAN]

Non, hair is a pain to animate in motion though. Which is why it looked so bad when goku fought beerus in SSJ3 and was in motion. It looked God awful.

[@alejandroa7169]

One explanation that came to mind was the shift in emotion when each level of the transformations are used. When Goku first turned into a super saiyan, he was arguably more cocky and arrogant when fighting Frieza. He even went as far as to stay behind on a doomed planet. In super saiyan 2, he threatens the Supreme Kai when he doesn't agree with Goku giving in to fight Vegeta. If we take a look at the few times Goku has gone super saiyan 3, he has an entirely different personality. In Wrath of the Dragon, he tells trunks to stay out of the fight so that he can fight 1 on 1. Theoretically, if Vegeta were to use this transformation, we could argue that his fighting technique would greatly suffer from the arrogance that the form would induce. Vegeta is already full of pride and arrogance but super saiyan 3 would greatly increase it. This form would not only waste ki but in fact be a disadvantage to Vegeta who is already held back from his seriousness. Whis states that Vegeta always trails behind Goku because of how serious he is. Following that, Whis tells Goku he is too careless. In Conclusion, super saiyan 3 to Vegeta would leave him with an incredible disadvantage in any fight because of how much Ki it wastes and because of the personality effects it has.

[@ricksanchez191]

His ego is why he's so powerful in the first place

[@bmwe46lover65]

@@ricksanchez191 ultra ego

[@zoomzoomboy24]

I think originally, Super Saiyan was supposed to be an evil transformation that turns your eyes red as well. It's possible Toriyama still kept some of that for the SSJ forms and influenced their personality.

[@cdeezy2718]

Forms like ssj3 tap into the saiyan within them. It's like a pure saiyan. If vegeta were able to control it and increase his form from a ssj3 base level he would be a monster

[@onorebakasama]

SSJ Goku against Freeza wasn't cocky and arrogant. He was PISSED. He wanted to break Freeza, not just in combat but also emotionally (hence the reason for letting him power up, since Goku knew he was going to win--and also the reason why he stopped, so that Freeza could live with the shame of losing to someone he hated so much and thus stop him from wanting to subjugate or kill ever again). He wanted Freeza to suffer for the rest of his life, and that's how he chose to do it. Goku was SSj1 against the Supreme Kai. As for SSj2? We only saw that against Vegeta, when trying to escape from Buu's planet-destroying ball (not long enough to make any difference), and against Kid Buu (in anime filler). Against Vegeta, his personality doesn't seem all that different from any other time, other than being upset about Vegeta going Majin and killing people, which doesn't seem to be relevant to the transformation, especially since Goku had mastered SSj2 by then. As for Super Saiyan 3? I don't know about a different personality. His disposition was very serious, but might be because of his task at the time--stall Buu for Trunks to get the radar. He was only upset because it was taking so long. Against Buutenks, that was anime filler. Versus Kid Buu, he seemed to be just as sporting as he is at any other time in any other form--he told Vegeta that he could've defeated Buu, but let the fight drag on so he could fight as well. So I'm not sure about personality changes.

[@2DiViDeAndDeViAtE]

But dam imagine if he unlocked it when bulma got slapped

[@obsidianfrost9514]

He already had it by that time.

[@fogz]

If raditz go super saiyan he will instantly achieve ssj3

[@craiglamotte406]

Sad BOI and he wouldnt be abel to fight because his hair is to looooong

[@ryanhouston504]

Without the lighting

[@amitkulkarni18]

Imagine raditz ssj3

[@assassindancer914]

MOD Life rip the universe

[@lantopia2161]

That dude would just be a ball of hair. Looking like a yellow wheel

[@TechStarr]

Still trying to figure out that flashing issue guys, sorry !

[@yaboyjoshua]

Tech Starr np

[@futureofboxing6025]

Tech Starr vegeta didn’t achieve ssj2 through the majin control he already could use it

[@TechStarr]

You kids call clickbait and don’t even know what it is lol

[@TechStarr]

He didn’t already have it

[@futureofboxing6025]

Tech Starr yes he did already achieve ssj2 he used babidis magic to put close the power gap

[@Phoenix-kv3ou]

Let's be real - He never got SS3 because it became obsolete before he could achieve it.

[@TechStarr]

You not wrong tho lol

[@getgoing581]

Sicky True

[@frankrabbit2247]

Sicky yeah. It sucks that it doesn't matter at all. Neither does super saiyan. Or anyone who isn't goku. Im getting kinda sick of goku.

[@thomassilia7306]

Frank Rabbit literally the main character of the series dude

[@jondysayz]

But you can have a main character without them being literally the only person being the hero. Lots of anime have done this. Hunter x Hunter had Gon pretty much on the sidelines the entire chimera ant arc. The only time time Goku wasn't the main focus and savior of the world was when they fought cell.

[@mpmike_3605]

Lol this being put on home page after he goes 3 in Damia is crazy

[@joshuaijimenezalonso2267]

The "dangerous" description is clickbaity launguage

[@TechStarr]

Eh debatable

[@stevenfitzgerald2214]

Tech Starr I would say you couldn't even argue it was debatable without being really obtuse. Also, you basically stretched what should have only been a maximum of about 2 minutes into nearly 7.

[@shagrimm]

Im on the fence about it. But i'll let it slide.

[@bigusboimusnibbamjoestar3234]

Dame 2 cosita Howard the alien.

[@surjeetsidhu998]

As in the ki consumption of SSJ3 puts Vegeta in danger.

[@anonymouswriter8124]

5:16. There, i just saved u 5 useless minutes

[@Blazemark25]

Gosh dang it I see this comment as soon I finish the video could saved 5 minutes darn it

[@woweyblocks]

Thank god

[@josh_hayes6]

Thanks bro

[@cooljayyy3145]

Thank you! Not all heroes wear capes 💯

[@alexkontoulhs3643]

First : stamina Second : anger management.

[@Todoza]

The real reason is that it would mess up his hairline even more XD

[@keerthikumar5490]

It takes more energy to draw that form for lazy artists ......

[@yumei5130]

Keerthi kumar lol your the only one that didn't say "His hairline with pop up"

[@theguy106]

This.

[@Druggy-Doggo]

When I used to draw Dragon Ball Z characters I would love drawing ssj3 on any character I don’t see why the artist don’t like drawing the hair 🤔

[@j.d.c9778]

Its easier to draw than auper saiyan 4 tho

[@Zysstix]

Nah it’s the same for Gotenks, and Goku.

[@JioVega]

I think it's a balance thing. The charge time on ssj3 is insane. In a real combat setting, like the universal tournament, it's not good for endurance. It burns too much energy. I see it as Vegeta would rather charge his final flash, and use the energy cost as an attack, rather than a supplement of physical force, which he already excels at. Tl;Dr version: He easily builds the energy required to acheive ssj3, but would rather weaponize it. Look at his final flash that he almost killed perfect cell with.

[@arezhik7774]

And they can optimize red, for energy savings, and blue for big hitting power as shown in the ToP with Hit/Dyspo/Goku battle

[@WezzyFF1]

Vegeta literally said that it's a useless form because of the amount of energy it consumes and the bad ki control

[@TechStarr]

So did i

[@b3ardedragon921]

He should have perfect ki control now

[@WezzyFF1]

Yes he would but at this point it wouldn't be beneficial because of the stronger fighters they are facing now unless he did like a ssj3 grade 4

[@WezzyFF1]

But still then it wouldnt be more beneficial that ssgb mastered

[@ipoststuff1841]

Yes but that ssj3 fucked up boo also its better than kio ken

[@oz88og40]

I feel that vegeta is capable of going ssj3 but he knows the form had too many flaws.

[@souup145]

*When you master UI but can't use ssj3 for more than 5 minutes*

[@TechStarr]

MUI paralyzed him lol

[@souup145]

Tech Starr He handles the strain better than ssj3 after only his first time using it

[@Unknownepic6991]

U would have thought goku and vegeta would master ss3 before they become a god or goku mastering ultra instinct

[@DarkShadow775]

Matthew He was only MUI for like a minute lol

[@eddy_is_a_squidpotatoe471]

Stizzy Tony Yeah he waw in Uim for about like 2 or one minute.

[@landonwestenberger2695]

I gave up watching at 5min cuz I didn't think you'd get to the damn point

[@Karma_TE]

Landon Westenberger same

[@narczo765]

Literally bruh

[@jeffreybasbas3265]

Same blah blah on circle

[@Cay9z]

@@mgreen82 Shit got me laughing

[@saucysaracha35]

LIMITS HE SURPASS THAT, YAMCHAS GIRLFRIEND HE STOLE THAT, COMBAT HE DO THAT, SSJ3...... HE SKIP THAT

[@TechStarr]

lol this guy

[@yumei5130]

Tech Starr Lol

[@theikoala6364]

Hotel? Trivago

[@908_ZaY]

WOhhhhhhhhhhhh🗣️😱

[@rodneyrummans1172]

I've had the theory that this form was easier for Goku to achieve due to being in Other World. The form burned out quick when Goku was first revived. However, I just can't help but feel that by the beginning of Dragon Ball Super that Goku had mastered the transformation. Sure, mastered SSJ3 probably still burns through ki pretty rapidly. Maybe not nearly as fast as when Goku was first revived though. Thoughtful video, nice!

[@jehovahsfitness3151]

Dont remember where it was said but someone said that it was a form meant for otherworld since it uses way too much power for it to be useful

[@villelater2708]

No Goku was still training in ssj3 so he didn't master it

[@d3marte]

Hit me with that form. Hit me with that form. *You can't.*

[@jakenight6288]

RobloxianNeega -Roblox shit caught me off guard dude I choked on my Gatorade

[@trunks9233]

Lmao

[@jacquelinepeck3770]

lmao

[@kennethwaterman9284]

BloxyNeega E dat meme do

[@justjj1066]

BloxyNeega E *MEGA DEPRESSING SIGH*

[@AbhishekKumar-vr7sh]

Conclusion: Vegeta won't ever go ssj3 not because he can't attain it but only because it drains your energy too quickly which is evident from the fact that gotenks fusion time was reduced drastically and goku could not even retain ssj3 while fighting kid buu.Tremendous power but only for a short amount of time is not good for a long battle.

[@arezhik7774]

And the fact that Goku didn't ever use it the in the ToP and told U6 saiyans as much; aside from the 10 seconds he popped into it to showcase to Kale/Caulifla. To much stamina drain to keep up effectively. It's like an upgraded form of Super Saiyan Ultra (Grade 5(?)) only the speed is back but you've got a valve with no stop and you're blowing energy by the wayside. Red/Blue was all about control and attempting to eliminate the leak of energy. Hence no need to go back. Even if they did it'd probably be Goku pushing SSJ3 into God Ki after the blue aura to infinity and beyond stacked with Kaio Ken or something like that.

[@chosensoul323]

Um no kid. At first super saiyan drain to much power too. It's about masterin it. Goku said he had only barley learned it ss3 in buu saga so it was hard to keep up. Gotenks barley learned it to. Like when frieza got golden form vegeta told him u barley got it huh your going to get tired soon

[@digmi999]

L+GT+ur statement is false

[@wytdmikey]

@@digmi999 W

[@nexdroid1486]

​@@arezhik7774 it wouldn't have been useless in TOP since he fought alot of fighters in base form, and I think that ssj3 isn't that bad for him anymore, he seemed to transform pretty quickly when beerus showed up and that means he must've been working on it alot and has much higher control, not to mention that blue is a higher ki control so that would make ssj3 even easier to use

[@FableNet]

Cool video and all. But tbh with Toriyama nature and track record of never really thinking so deeply about anything he does in dragon ball. If you ever ask him why he never showed Vegeta ssj3 he would give you the most simple and less complex answer it may be something like "I forgot and just let it be" or "It's too much work to do it for Goku already so I just didn't want to make my work harder" or answers that would get you ripping out your hair saying "give me back my time wasted trying to figure out why!!"

[@CarlosHuiskens]

Lol this is so true haha. I even heard on a video of Geekdom101 that Toriyama rarely leaves his house. He doesn't do meetings or conventions or interviews because he knows he's going to be asked questions he doesn't want to answer. Especially when it comes to Vegeta. If for example you would ask him where did the SSBE transformation come from he'll say ''I made it up last minute just to shut up the Vegeta fans'' And if asked why didn't it get a official name he'll say '' I didn't care to give him one'' Personally i feel like the DB franchise would be a lot better if Toriyama wouldn't be involved at all at present. That might be insulting to some but its just a personal opinion.

[@FableNet]

Carlos Huiskens yes its true loll cause tbh he doesn't really hold much regards for the series, if die hard dB fans meet him in person they will be seriously in for a huge disappointment

[@ShaunFVG]

Lol he forgot about ss2 as well when he made ss3 🤣

[@gustavodelgado4935]

The best explain of Toriyama I've ever seen.

[@misterzilla6508]

cuz the man just wanted to entertain but the fans scrutinize every little details

[@CapitalG-u7w]

You made an error regarding J3 Gotenks. While in J3 form it lasted a lot longer than "just a few minutes". Gotenks was able to hold the J3 form longer than Goku because of the immense ki reserves gained through the fusion, ki reserves that Goku simply did not have because he is not composed of two Super Saiyans.

[@nobodyreally4847]

You extrapolated on every nonsensical conjecture embedded into the plot, and completely ignored the most logical explanation. First thing first: Vegeta was unaware the form existed, or could be achieved to begin with. When Vegeta learns Gokū withheld the ascended form during their most recent battle, he expresses his disappointment. Second thing first: Necessity is the mother of invention. After discovering the form, at no point was Vegeta in a position to achieve the form himself. And, when he finally is able to pursue the form, it becomes obsolete due to the advent of the super saiyan god concept being introduced - which he achieves on his own. I believe it is implied that canonicaly Vegeta achieved the form of super saiyan blue before Goku. All the other nonsense was irrelevant. Vegeta didn’t know it was a thing, and by the time he did, other more efficient techniques had been discovered rendering the entire form pointless. That is the most logical explanation, period.

[@nitishvaidya3511]

I like your point.

[@yannmergezs2820]

Finesse Cool :no ones going to read this

[@trapshittwilliams8659]

💪

[@JioVega]

He even acheived a higher form of blue simply because he needed it to fight jiren. I don't know what the name of it is, but I like to call it "Shining Blue". Ssj3 is completely irrelevant for Vegeta. Does anyone really know a form exists before it's found? How did Goku even realize he could go Ssj3? He probably just amped himself up even more than he thought he could. Same like Vegeta getting Shining blue in the jiren fight. Vegeta sometimes requires an example of someone stronger so he can attain new heights he didn't see before.

[@stephenhanson2893]

Goku alittle with holder 😂😂

[@LumpKing]

That intro alone got me to sub.

[@TechStarr]

Thanks homie ! :)

[@bakkro2638]

LumpKing same

[@LumpKing]

Tech Starr np my nigga

[@gamefreak2050]

I think it’s the Pokémon Indigo Plateau dubstep by physic type

[@gamefreak2050]

Correction- Psychic Type Victory Road by Trap City, that shits my jam

[@JSun3000]

SSJ3 was amazing.I would love to see Vegeta and Goku master SSJ3, possibly combining it with SSB.

[@xeno4693]

SSGSS SS3 Mastered Evolution full power

[@RamielEdits]

@@xeno4693 super sayian blue 3

[@sparkus4229]

Well... this didn't age so well.

[@TheMaskedNingen]

Some good points raised, but I agree with one of the last things you mentioned, and I've always thought it was this way - Vegeta CAN go SSJ3 if he wanted to, he just doesn't. He couldn't at the end of the Buu saga, but by Super he would easily have raised his power enough to be able to do so, but as you said he sees using the transformation as pointless, especially once they learn how to use God ki. With Caulifla, Kale and Cabba all going SSJ very quickly once learning how to do it, Dragon Ball shows us that as long as the saiyan has enough power, they can achieve the form if shown it - therefore it seems pretty obvious to assume that Vegeta could go SSJ3 if he wanted to. Anyway, good video dude!

[@KingHoDoKaN]

I remember reading somewhere that Vegeta couldn’t reach ssj3 because he doesn’t have a pure heart

[@morganmurphy4491]

Well as of super thats out the window, gotta have a pure heart to do the SsG ceremony

[@Th3HedonismBot]

His heart is pure. Pure, unadulterated, badass.

[@epicfail7874]

@@Th3HedonismBot the real reason he doesn't use ss3 is it doesn't have enough super saiyan swagger

[@trevormynatt3466]

He redeemed himself and became pure in my mind when he sacrificed himself for others. That's why he didn't go to hell.

[@omega1973]

He did but was in the Android sage

[@joioisprettygood.5162]

He’s a super saiyan blue.. He doesn’t need a weaker transformation that takes more energy..

[@menkirdennis6686]

Joio is pretty good. Exactly

[@hido...]

Joio is pretty good. Yeah but he gets epic points 😎

[@kage3175]

No u r wrong since he gets blue in super but he gets 4 a while back but never got 3...

[@lego5145]

Joio is pretty good. You’re wrong

[@kage3175]

@@lego5145 nope

[@Cott-wf6pf]

HES USED IT NOW AND ITS SICK!!! SO DOPE!! Dragon Ball Daima!! 🔥

[@chocobitties2595]

> This is my normal hair. This is my Super Hair. This.. is my hair that has ascended beyond Super. Or you could call this Super Hair 2. And THIS... is for my hair to go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!

[@chocobitties2595]

Krillen: He's bluffing.. what would that make his hair, double ascended?

[@sunny.as.in.the.weather]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@glazed_waffle5629]

Wow very great explaination dude loved the vid.

[@TechStarr]

thanks bro !

[@Autobot_Megatron]

Why need SSJ3 when he has the power of the Bingo Dance? I should point out that he surpassed Goku in strength and power AFTER performing that dance of untold but incredible mystical power.

[@ayedatsnemo-0457]

TheJ024 he didn't surpass goku did u forget how a saiyan's body work. Goku body will probably show some attributes of MUI but it most likely wont show easily.( if u mean vegeta going evolved ssgss)

[@thinmintthemonkey2435]

Nehemiah Hicks Oh my GGOOODDDDDD shut up and LET A JOKE BE A JOKE!

[@ayedatsnemo-0457]

Donkly Dorkus McDingle why u so serious don't u see wht i said in parenthesis, tht comment was only a response to if he was tlkn about TOP. So chill

[@nolan6700]

Nehemiah Hicks well still, you responded to a joke in a rather serious manner, so you technically didn’t get the joke

[@ayedatsnemo-0457]

SomeBodyNamedNolan Is Here i do get it but he slipped in something about vegeta being stronger so i gave my opinion, doesn't mean u have to barge in with caps like ur gonna be a threat

[@Wifflewafflez]

Welp, looks like Daima would like to say otherwise

[@vincenthellfire6640]

Wanna hear a joke Vegeta, Super Saiyan 3. Vegeta: I don't get it... Exactly

[@jesseturner4607]

Jerry Pena smh

[@brianknight4186]

Wow so original

[@jasondarkflame4948]

Jerry Pena wanna hear a joke Goku? What? Super Saiyan Blue Evolution I don't get it Exactly

[@brianknight4186]

Wanna hear a joke Vegeta? What? Ultra Instinct I don't get it Exactly

[@vincenthellfire6640]

Vegeta: Kakarot wanna hear a joke? Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Goku: Nice! Vegeta: Fuck off!

[@GCJACK83]

The dangerous reason is it's a waste of energy and cuts down how fast they can move due to the added bulk, explaining why Goku rarely uses it.

[@round105]

Thats ultra saiyan, the main reason is because it eats away at your ki so fast. Its a cool transformation but it takes a toll on the body.

[@qum3325]

so he doesn't want to use super saiyan 3 because he doesn't want to lose his eye brows

[@David-ic7gm]

@@round105 what is ultra saiyan?

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

@@David-ic7gm the big ass muscle form Vegeta used against Cell 2 and trunks tried to use against basically every villain he's ever fought

[@David-ic7gm]

@@ICCUWANSIUT thats super vegeta and super trunks

[@thegreatguldo9956]

Their is a lot of flaws towards ssj3 so vegeta must have learned about ssj3 weaknesses so vegeta would never use it because vegeta uses ki attacks

[@dustinsanford9497]

green beedrill he really doesnt nred it either

[@jokimda]

Because it s difficulté to draw that s all

[@mtown90174]

green beedrill what's the weakness

[@icrusha5767]

green beedrill nah hell nah vegeta has never gone super saiyan 3 AND HE CANT its not that he doesnt have the power to or that the draw back of ki consumption is so huge he knows not to use cuz cuz a 400x muliplier is completely outrageous and explosive. Super saiyan 3 takes ALL of the potential of a saiyan am utilizes it in terms of raw power it flat out outshines ssjblue but not in terms of efficiency that being said vegeta at no point in time has ever set aside enough of his pride to reach his maximum potential thus why he CANNOT achieve the form he is his own drawback

[@togucvinw7]

i Crusha Not at all He see this transformation as useless as Ultra trunks buffed super saiyan form ,its not that he cant do it because of lack of power or too much pride His pride alone enabled him to go ssj god without doibg thé ritual that Goku had to do

[@TaureanSmoke]

I hold heartedly agree with you my friend. I think this explanation best lays it out, but furthermore I also feel like it's because Vegeta is far more likely to dump all of his ki into one assault or at least one blast, Vegeta is far more tactical and likes to drag the fight out more then Goku does so yes super Saiyan 3 is obviously the last thing Vegeta would use in a fight considering how much energy it uses.

[@IgnantEdits]

About time someone made this video

[@TechStarr]

you know im out here bruhh

[@NyQuiiLx]

The same way Goku discovered SSJ grades 2 and 3 but never actually used the forms, Vegeta probably figured out how to use it years ago. Once he realized how taxing it was he probably said to hell with it like the other forms.

[@j.d.w.t.4854]

Vageta: I just don't feel like screaming that loud

[@andreduplooy7430]

I was told by someone , that you had to be pure of heart, could also be a theory.

[@tkm1875]

Dragon Ball fans make everything too difficult and Toriyama doesn't know what he's saying/doing half the time. LOL.

[@reviewmortishorrorshow8346]

T.K S ....Just like goku. It ALL makes sense now

[@g-tallfrmda6661]

I believe you bro lol

[@tkm1875]

Meatwad Ezekiel Having a objective and observant opinion based on experience makes me a jerk? LOL! Okay...

[@theannilators7479]

Meatwad Ezekiel He literally never said he didn’t like the show, he said he doesn’t like the way that some of the fans act because of Toriyama’s memory problems, which Toriyama has even said he has (one time admitting he forgot that SS2 existed and thought SS3 was SS2)

[@doge-ingtonplaysandtalks99]

Meatwad Ezekiel theres a space after a comma idiot

[@foxgrace56]

4:25 is when he starts explaining it.

[@richiewitcher4456]

Makes perfect sense! Thanks for the video!

[@makingmoneywithmj7752]

I remember reading in an old magazine from the early 2000's that alternative forms that deviate from the classic look, such as cell saga bulky saiyan & buu saga ssj3 were never is the plan for Vegeta. Instead it made for better story telling & character development if they plagued him with possessed forms like Majin & silver baby hair that he needed to overcome. Whether that's true or not I can't argue with how things turned out.

[@thw1563]

He’d look just like Raditz with that widow’s peak. Bad idea.

[@quack2406]

Basiclly,vegeta is a full on ki fighter,and ssj3 drains ki and speed and what is vegeta,mostly ki and speed!!

[@demonslayerdragneel9459]

zamasu does dokkan isn't Goku the ki and speed one and vegeta the strength and durability one

[@wolfmanflame12]

Demon Slayer Dragneel Idk I usually see Vegeta being the one shooting ki barrages more frequently than Goku.

[@icrusha5767]

Vegeta cant reach ssj3 it takes the maximum potential from its user and explosively increases power. Vegeta has never known his full potential to utilize the form. Also vegeta isnt a conservative speed ki fighter hes a head on heavy chunk dmg dealing wreckless durable tank

[@kaikwonfu2633]

Shadowstorm5000 Yea, but goku fires off kamehamehas like yamcha gets his ass kicked. All the damn time. Personally, I dont think there are these problems with ssj3 that are being talked about. I just dont think vegeta ever felt the need to go ssj3.

[@migzwilliams2049]

i Crusha biggest crap IV read on here..

[@kristopherb8046]

Great video dude. The question I have never asked has been answered. Thanks! Subbed an belly bell hit.

[@tubbin_2830]

Reason why Vegeta won’t go SSJ3 : The forms obsolete at this point

[@TechStarr]

Extremely

[@kamitenshi3825]

But still y'all still wish he could do it, to this day it still burns that he can't do it, same for UI

[@cosmosofinfinity]

Then why do they go super saiyan 1 all the time? It's obsolete, isn't it?

[@tubbin_2830]

cosmosofinfinity Well for one Goku doesn’t fight all out right away. Also the difference between super saiyan and any other transformation is that super saiyan isn’t as draining. While ssj3 does.

[@shagrimm]

Unless they unlock an SSJ3 version of god mode. Blue is the SSJ1 version of god mode, blue evolved is either the SSJ2 or SSJ1 mk.2 version of god mode. Whose to say there isnt a further one beyond it that produces SSJ3 like effects mixed with god ki?

[@hopitribe3259]

I think you right he will never use a transformation that will make him weak in the end...

[@supervegito8221]

I knew this was finna be lit :-P

[@TechStarr]

YOU KNOW

[@ggtragicsansbro6495]

guys whis stated in dbs that in order to master ssb you have to master all the previous sayan transformation

[@uliserodriguez9588]

We all know that Yamcha is the most naturally gifted fighter in all of dragon Ball

[@richardbreeden3378]

I know that's sarcasm but don't you have a bad taste in your mouth now

[@juniorhugo2359]

Lol

[@sofocapoku7285]

We all know that pewdiepie lvl is beyond gods :-P

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

He's the smartest, he hasn't been dead nearly as much as the other characters lol.

[@luma4868]

My reason is it's because it's too hard to animate (reason why you never see Goku go ssj3 like that)

[@TechStarr]

Yeah that’s the true reason lol but I like to dig deeper

[@TechStarr]

Kakakarot Cake or you could just not... watch...?

[@Sylique]

Tech Starr i agree with the other dude.. but good content i guess

[@swaggsavage313]

Julian Games wait but didn't Goku go ssj3 in the tournament of power?

[@migzwilliams2049]

Kakakarot Cake I agree. First I'm seeing this channel n I thought he would have new info but instead same old thing we all knew years now

[@mattu8438]

It be useless to train for three when he has blue and red. Both are much better.

[@franegrancic7679]

How Goku achived ssj: angered by piccolo's and krillin's death. How Vegete did it: I wanna, I wanna, I wanna be a ssj.

[@mercy_mt8283]

The music sent chills down my spine XD. Oh the nostalgia

[@EnvectusHDgaming]

I think one of the main reasons Vegeta has never gotten the super Saiyan 3 form is really because of how his character is written like you said he would never use a form that would hinder his fighting ability not to mention Vegeta likes to take his time and boast and brag while slowly torturing his opponents so if you did go super Saiyan 3 his showboating and grandstanding would inevitably cost him the fight.

[@hamacris4424]

Finally someone with decent instincts. Well done man.

[@TechStarr]

thanks bro

[@hamacris4424]

Tech Starr 😍😍

[@ericknopf2109]

Vegeta can’t remain in SSJ3, there’s a time limit to it due to RAPID loss of stamina.

[@anarkymocha8407]

What i think is that Vegeta knows how to go ssj3 but since it is ki consuming and most of his attacks use a lot of Ki he chooses not to

[@metalmichew2]

I agree whole heartedly. I always say "keep in mind that vegeta has always been portrait as the smarter between Goku and himself" at the same time i can agree to a certain ritualistic thing that needs to happen such as Goku being dead.

[@Bunny_sweetheart]

This is actually a good theory actually and makes perfect sense

[@A.C.E.]

Would’ve loved if he went ssj3 for a brief moment when he raged at Beerus. Just that one time would have been epic

[@daddyg2842]

Vegeta doesn’t use this transformation because it uses too much energy and stamina to maintain. It works as a boost of power but in a prolonged fight it is useless since the user just gets fatigued and tired way faster without even taking any damage. So Super Saiyan God and Blue are exact opposites and don’t require large portions of energy to use the forms, it’s actually a calm state.

[@yumei5130]

Token From Southpark Thank you finally you are the only one lad. The only one who got it right thanks mate!

[@dalontesmith1085]

Vegtio Z gamer also he can transform into it he chooses not to because it wastes to much Ki too.

[@kibuki91]

He can’t use this form. And the reason is so simple. He never bothered to learn it. By the time he found out about it, they had to deal with Kid Buu. Shortly after that SSJ God and Blue came, shifting his focus to try to attain THOSE forms. It’s not that he WON’T use it, it’s that he CAN’T use it. Canonically, at least. Now that he has SSJ Blue Evolved he really has no real motivation to learn it

[@dexeronstarsurge]

@@kibuki91 he had a few years in between the end of the Buu Saga and Super.

[@qum3325]

so he doesn't want to use super saiyan 3 because he doesn't want to lose his eye brows

[@Pqrce]

Or maybe toryama doesn’t want to draw all that hair

[@TechStarr]

I said that at the end

[@killwillv2610]

Bro hardly anybody stays to the end of a video on KZbin unless it's a bitch shaking their ass. Nobody is going to hear you say that. It's okay if you read it again and again. Just ignore people's shit and enjoy the good when it happens. You will grow as a person and channel

[@foxgrace56]

Most of this video consists of "He should be able to, so why cant he? Well lets find out." as we know goku used this transformation and vegeta is even a super sayain god now so how come he cant go super sayain 3,? well lets find out. and it just keep going through more than half of the video HOLY CRHISSSTTTTT

[@TheFrisken95]

FUNNY ACCOUNTS not s god, but godlike power, he is tapping at the divine power, Goku is the only Sayian that had become the actual Sayian God.

[@joaocbcneto]

@@TheFrisken95 db super broly disagrees.

[@KjngRaptor]

woah bro some people got epilepsy XD seriously though, that flashing at the end.... that can hurt some people

[@kt7rocks]

4:28 look at his forehead it’s completely flat just like the earth is that’s the reason why he will never do ssj3 His forehead gets a massive downgrade

[@juniorhugo2359]

U a flat earth believer??

[@dargon7]

@@juniorhugo2359 I hate flat earth believers they need to be sent to earth school

[@juniorhugo2359]

I know dont they watch live nasa view earth from space?? Earth is ROUND!!

[@johnnyearl2612]

maybe the Earth is just a computer-generated world like in The Matrix and it's neither flat or round... it's not real😂

[@peanut1410]

@@juniorhugo2359 no its flat

[@Andy.Jimenez]

SS3 is such as waste tbh because it drains more energy than the actual god forms and it's weaker. So there's no point to even use it just to show off.

[@TechStarr]

I agree

[@charlescooks9360]

The animators just don't want to animate it

[@allan1018]

Andy Jimenez which form waste more power? SS2 or SSB ?

[@Andy.Jimenez]

bill allan 199 by far SSB. That's why Goku & Vegeta were first using SS2 before SSB in the tournament of power. They wanted to conserve stamina.

[@baconjosuke9047]

Andy Jimenez Yeah, but ssj3 has the best hair though.. Can't disagree with that even though it runs you're energy out but idc, it's an form. (*Not hating*)

[@Elbisrever]

It's november 2019, somehow I get this in my recommended videos, and it turns out it's a guy that states things he just stated before so he can state for 5 minutes straight just to fill up his KZbin video. What a waste.

[@Platformer64]

Had to drop a sub cuz i always randomly run into your video and Your theyre really cool and super informative to watch, didnt even realize this was a 3y/o video until near the end cuz i was distracted by how entertaining it was. I kinda already knew why Vegeta doesnt go SSJ3 but this video was a nice fact check just in case!

[@Yvng_YBK-RRR]

His forehead will be more noticeable that’s why

[@tjheitor89]

*Because is trash and consumes too much energy and it is useless for him...*

[@levihayes1096]

TJ Heitor right!!!!!

[@rajeshparmar8207]

Yes u r right

[@chrisking2084]

So its useless he got beat almost see to death by buu huh. Instead of wasting stamina which goku in the tournament of power used ss3 and was trying to gain stamina

[@chrisking2084]

@@rajeshparmar8207 how is he right. Lol you watch goku gaining stamina in ss3. To get to God mode

[@rajeshparmar8207]

@@chrisking2084 Ok

[@trinininja8386]

Even if vegeta doesn't think ssj3 is efficient i still wouldn't mind seeing him doing it just for the sake of showing everyone that he can

[@VCthaGOATdunker]

They never went further with this transformation because everyone who becomes SSJ3 looks completely identical. The individual won't keep his individuality anymore except for his height, other than that, everyone will have the long blonde hair and no eyebrows.