Hybrid scaling can go wrong. Xinyan is an example. Her ATK and DEF stats shouldn’t have been split. They should’ve supplemented each other.
@omaral-majed38342 жыл бұрын
She is also a pyro phys dps so she cant work as good as razor or eula
@bruhwhy6772 жыл бұрын
@@omaral-majed3834 Exactly.
@omaral-majed38342 жыл бұрын
@@bruhwhy677 i wish she was all pyro she could be good in quick swap as a burst support shild vv shred but sadly no
@FARTPOP2 жыл бұрын
damn her whole kit is just a real mess huh
@zed60k472 жыл бұрын
Xinyan is supposed to be built atk%, she scales considerably better off it, def% just grants her more damage based on a stat that is typically dead on your artifacts. The game just didn't want you to be able to have a shield build Xinyan that can also dps, characters that can do that tend to have strong restrictions, especially 4 star ones. Ayato similarly gets bonus damage from HP stats but he deals a lot more damage if built atk%. The only exception to this afaik is Zhongli who has a passive that makes his pillar and meteor deal increased damage that scales off his HP% in a way that building him either atk or hp has a negligible difference in damage output.
@nhaan41782 жыл бұрын
"Def is easier to get" unless you're farming the Husk domain, then all you get is EM, healing bonus and ER
@adam.n-steve2 жыл бұрын
Same with Maiden and Ocean Hued. You get no healing bonus. Just def and crit.
@Oyogitsune2 жыл бұрын
@@adam.n-steve and when you do get crit in Ocean hued domain it rolls into mf crit.
@adam.n-steve2 жыл бұрын
@@Oyogitsune or Def sub stats and hit only def. No crit. No ER. Just Def.
@adam.n-steve2 жыл бұрын
@@Oyogitsune At least crit is good on Barb and Qiqi.
@hugshugs33902 жыл бұрын
OMG yes! EM in Husk domain, Def in VV domain. PAIN😩
@diogoschneider24792 жыл бұрын
Another example of failed hybrid scaling is Thoma, he ascenda with atk, his shield is based on HP and his atk scaling abilities are very low but not compensated by his HP conversion passive (also he needs a huge amount of ER to function )
@nhaan41782 жыл бұрын
I don't know what Miyoho thinks when they make Thoma ascends with attack, Gorou with Geo damage bonus, Diona with cryo damage bonus. The only 4* ascension stat I like so far is Yunjin (ER).
@yououttapocket2 жыл бұрын
Just shieldbot him like every normal person
@MetalRenard2 жыл бұрын
And he only functions with constellations otherwise he's useless.
@kagakai77292 жыл бұрын
@@yououttapocket then you're running full hp, which means no ER for burst uptime. It doesn't work
@yououttapocket2 жыл бұрын
@@kagakai7729 Literally just run favonius lance 5head, thats enough to battery him
@nhaan41782 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Ayato: his hybrid scaling of Attack and HP doesn't make or break his C0 gameplay (like Xinyan). It's just make Hp rolls less copium
@Aki-hb1jy2 жыл бұрын
Ayato isn’t hybrid scaling though. He’s a pure atk dps that wants atk. HP is just an additive bonus and not considered hybrid/split scaling.
@bhavya56922 жыл бұрын
@@Aki-hb1jy their point was because of his hp scaling bonas he can use the hp% that often almost always rolls into crit artifacts
@Nokyyyyy2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's like 3% less copium since he has a bonus that takes like 0,013% of his hp
@Vladumere2 жыл бұрын
@@Nokyyyyy nah, hp% rolls are like worth around half a crit role or atk% role in terms of damage for Ayato. Imo it isn’t split scaling but it does make it so he can be less picky with artifacts so it isn’t as bad as you make it out to be lol.
@Nokyyyyy2 жыл бұрын
@@Vladumere okay, thank you !
@lolosh992 жыл бұрын
Actually Raiden wasn’t the first great unit that scaled of both ATK and Energy Recharge. Mona converts 20% of her Energy Recharge to hydro damage bonus. Ofc Raiden has a much better version but you get what I mean.
@zackyman36392 жыл бұрын
"Great"
@joshuacardenas79562 жыл бұрын
@@zackyman3639 Mona is a great character but not because of that passive
@zackyman36392 жыл бұрын
@@joshuacardenas7956 she for sure isnt great
@Darkneonflame132 жыл бұрын
@@zackyman3639 as a support who boosts damage output especially in freeze comps yeah she’s actually pretty great
@joshuacardenas79562 жыл бұрын
@@zackyman3639 she's a premier character for freeze teams due to the massive DMG buff from omen and it's extension from the freeze reaction. She also works well for nuking.
@QueenoftheHorizon2 жыл бұрын
Several characters I enjoy playing use hybrid scaling, like Albedo, but it's always been a feature I've never quite been sure how I feel about. On one hand, I can see the merits: every character has artifacts with up to 5 stats, so being able to increase damage by focusing on two areas for scaling sounds really nice, plus it can greatly benefit certain playstyles (Albedo, for example, can be a great support if you lean into defense). If both high attack and high defense give more power, why not build both? But on the other, I can see how it can be an issue because stats are finite, so you can potentially lose out and have a worse build trying to pay attention to both, since scaling isn't necessarily equal or well implemented. As always, I'm so hype to see the video tomorrow go into depth :D
@artaizen16132 жыл бұрын
if a character is hybrid I think it is a must that every skill is a hybrid type also, if a hybrid is just skill A is ATK based and skill B is DEF based that would be so bad cause in genshin literally there's only 2 skills on other games, like RPG where there are selection of skills or ways to change loadout of skills, that kind of branching is okay cause you can switch things up but char like Albedo are just kind of 75% efficient at max, cause his burst is just gonna be mediocre at best unless in the future there's way that his burst gonna be useless aside from noblesse trigger (then again there's a more fitting artifact set for him that also totally ignores his burst)
@walter18242 жыл бұрын
No way to like it, his burst should have 3000% scaling to make up for it.
@aurorasurrealis10322 жыл бұрын
I don't enjoy albedos atk scaling burst that only get's better with constellations. It should have been defense scaling from the start. Using his burst is a big dps loss and it makes me sad.
@QueenoftheHorizon2 жыл бұрын
@@artaizen1613 Ooo! That would definitely help several characters, like Albedo and Xinyan. Although, I can also see how that could potentially be game breaking with all the multipliers, so I understand why Mihoyo hasn't yet done something like that. Still, with effort to balance, it would certainly help in several instances :D
@artaizen16132 жыл бұрын
@@QueenoftheHorizon balancing numbers is no easy feat but for example albedo, even 20-30 boost from def is okay though to be honest why not just make when he uses his burst in e skill area we get 7 bloom right? just calculate the damage as e skill damage , I mean it's burst and his e is already unreliable enough being a geo construct, some places just can't have geo construct not to mention most boss attacks just erases the construct anyway.
@spiderninja_12 жыл бұрын
I find that hybrid-scaling works well when the multiple stats go towards a common outcome, like how Raiden, Kokomi, and Zhongli have their hybrid skills all go into damage. Characters like Yae and Ayato have weaker versions of this where the secondary stat provides so little benefit that it’s just a pillow to land on if you roll the wrong stats. The issue I find is split-scaling, as you mentioned, where you’re forced to pick between two distinct play styles, invest in one, and then the character feels incomplete. As everyone mentions, Xinyan is a good example. I play her solely as a DPS, so I invested into ATK, but without the DEF stats, she doesn’t have a good shield, and I can’t utilize her kit to the fullest. Albedo also has this issue where his skill is DEF and burst is ATK, but I find that investing in the skill has a much better damage output than the burst, especially with his recent 2.3 buffs, so it’s easier to choose where to pool his stats. I like how we’ve been seeing a rise in alternate-scaling like Yun Jin and Yelan. Yun Jin’s skills and burst scale completely on DEF, both in damage and support. Yelan’s skill, burst, and special charged attack (according to her leaks) will all scale on HP to deal damage, so investing in ATK will actually be pointless unless you plan to play her as an auto-attacker.
@bhavya56922 жыл бұрын
Actually ayato even without giving him hp% , he still gives good DMG and hp artifacts aren't necessary on him but image doing that to zhongli, u can't u need the hp main stat for him do do the DMG as well as hu tao
@silverbro132 жыл бұрын
Just putting this out there, but Zhongli's HP scaling for his damage output is abysmally low compared to just building him as a regular DPS with Attack/Geo Damage/Crit. If you're using him for anything other than shieldbot, that is.
@ruhmankhalid66752 жыл бұрын
I didn't find split scaling that forces you to pick between two or more different playstyles as the issue here. It's just that for xinyan the numbers aren't justifiable. For example, kazuha, EM mainstat with great subs are difficult to come by, therefore most just neglect classic offensive stats. you either go crit kaz or EM kaz those are two very distinctive playstyles but both feels very complete, cos the numbers are justifiable. Some are confused on where to invest on albedo due to his split scaling nature, and how does hoyoverse fix that? Crank the number on one of his kit thru cinnabar spindle.
@rb82582 жыл бұрын
I'm kept up at night thinking as to why Albedo's ult scales with attack instead of defence
@yashsarda22632 жыл бұрын
I dont get it. You need C2 or something to make his ult scale with defence I think. I never got a geo goblet and put albedo on a def goblet instead, so while his E is strong his ult is just useless doing less dmg than a single E proc.
@Ben-vg6ox2 жыл бұрын
So you are compelled to pull c2
@yashsarda22632 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-vg6ox on the other hand we have Itto who does split scaling perfectly. Dont need any constellations to benefit from defence like Noelle or Albedo. You could argue that Noelle is a 4 star and that would be okay I guess but theres no reason Albedo ult shouldnt scale with Def at C0. Maybe Hoyoverse just realized that it was a bad implementation of hybrid scaling and fixed it in future characters like Itto.
@Ben-vg6ox2 жыл бұрын
@@yashsarda2263 I think they made Itto work well because if they didn't it would break his Kit Even though Albedo has split scaling issues he's still a good unit
@pyro5159 Жыл бұрын
@@yashsarda2263 form VV for an anemo goblet you'll get geo every time at least I do
@sylas32652 жыл бұрын
I think every character who got left behind bc of their awful scaling should get a patch adjusting their stats. Thoma and Xinyan are fantastic characters personality wise, but not that great when you try to run both their scaling stats and that’s terrible! Plus Yae Miko who happens to be a 5* and cost those monies
@Watching_Koi2 жыл бұрын
I think hybrid scaling will be helpful for artifact farming since it allows some artifacts to be useful in different builds compared to the typical atk/element/crit builds. With that said, I really want more hp and def scaling characters that aren't geo. I just want my many double crit hp/def sands to be useful eventually instead of gathering dust in my inventory.
@dbzsonic10692 жыл бұрын
Yelan: hello there
@applel2.0432 жыл бұрын
Ayato and Yelan scale with hp so we should expect a def scaling character that is not geo .
@lolosh992 жыл бұрын
Yelan and Kuki are on the way
@Greatbabyred2 жыл бұрын
@@applel2.043 Ayato is only 25% HP scaling and 75% ATK scaling so i wouldn't say he's a dedicated HP scaler. However you can also add Hu Tao, Kokomi, Barbara, Diona, Kuki, and Thoma to the list
@Watching_Koi2 жыл бұрын
@@dbzsonic1069 Yelan is definitely a step in the right direction for me since her can use an hp sands. But I realize she's like sub-dps albedo where she'll still need an element cup and crit helm. What I realized after rereading my initial comment is that I really want are more Shenhes that don't need a elemental cup/crit helm. When I first saw Shenhe's kit from leaks I didn't even need to farm for her cause I had all the stuff in my inventory already. So I basically want more def/def/def characters that aren't geo (like gorou or yun jin) or hp/hp/hp characters that aren't hydro healers (like kokomi).
@lolosh992 жыл бұрын
Itto scaling on Def made him my most easy character to build. He is dealing way more damage than my Raiden and lvl 90 Diluc. Plus the fact that Gorou doesn’t need investment to be amazing.
@nhaan41782 жыл бұрын
Exactly, my boy unga bunga everything 🤣🤣🤣. His high def means that even though he has 20% reduction in physical and elemental res in his burst, he can still tank everything. Shields aren't there to protect Itto, it's there to trigger geo resonance.
@hansquintos7012 жыл бұрын
IKR???!! I love Itto. My time in the Ocean Hued clam domain is never a waste of time. While trying to build my Kokomi and Qiqi, my noelle, albedo, and itto gets good artis cuz of the opulent artifacts I also get.
@Naestrith2 жыл бұрын
Indeed IttoxGorou is the ultimate ship (meta speaking).
@lolosh992 жыл бұрын
@@sera8648 well… at high investment and C2 (Itto C1 is decent damage increase and his C2 is energy helpge) Raiden is freakishly strong then. They did not think it through on that one.
@byeguyssry2 жыл бұрын
I think they should introduce hybrid scaling to open up different playstyles, like maybe DEF for more off-field DMG but normal attacks deal enough to warrant building ATK for on-field DMG
@irgiefarras2 жыл бұрын
uhh, albedo?
@byeguyssry2 жыл бұрын
@@irgiefarras When Albedo's played as on-field DPS, DEF still ends up dealing more damage than ATK. Some still build ATK but DEF actually still wins out. The main appeal of playing Albedo on-field is the double flower technique. Basically, his Skill can only proc DEF-scaling damage once every 2s. However, if you proc his Skill, place a second one, then hit the enemy again you will proc the DEF-scaling damage again instantly even before the 2s is up. So on-field Albedo is basically the same as off-field Albedo except that your flower deals 50% more damage.
@hiro_4442 жыл бұрын
That doesn't really make sense, why would you want to build def on an off field character? I know albedo works like that but it doesn't really make sense to do that in terms of gameplay
@desertdust7772 жыл бұрын
@@zeosummers3984 Absolutely 🤣🤣
@byeguyssry2 жыл бұрын
@@hiro_444 True. Technically though every DPS could have their health and DEF stat changed to 1 and it wouldn't matter bcoz of shields (barring corrosion), Freeze etc.
@yamennish2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of scaling, some characters feel suboptimal from what the game gives them in terms of Ascension stat. Characters with hybrid scaling can be fun but when you give them an ascension stat thats irrelevant to the character's mainly built role it just feels off putting. Take Gorou, with his defense scaling but Geo damage bonus ascension (for himself, not buffing the geo comp entirely), or sucrose who scales amazing with EM but has anemo dmg ascension. Some DPS characters are given a pass for being given a crit rate/dmg ascension stat (Hu Tao, Itto, Ayato, etc.) but that just distracts from the problem. These are great characters but some feel too spread out I mean look at thoma, his stat is attack but you need hp and ER to make him worth using in one single comp. Some ascension stats just feel like they were slapped on for the sake of it, literally 4/7 geo chars have Geo dmg bonus. Yes I feel very strongly about ascension stats, worth a thought.
@ParafrostV2 жыл бұрын
Thing about Gorou, the only thing that scales with his def is his healing from c4 and ascension passive, but since his E already gives a lot of defense, purely focusing on defense for him is kind of copium unless u want more heals. His E still scales with atk and geo, but def is not a bad sub to have. He does need ER so you really only need favonius with 150%+ ER and since you're going to run mostly geo, then he's going to get enough energy particles. You could still use def main stat for sands/helm as long as you can manage to get 50% crit with sub stats, goblet having more of the crit, with 100% crit dmg. My shenhe uses full atk and still has a 1/2 crit ratio with 3.6k atk cause of jade spear, but i can get 50% crit/110% crit dmg if i got a better helm with crit and crit dmg. Atk subs are already high too and she hardly needs more than 135% ER to get her ult back up with Ayaka providing a lot of particles.
@Sylvastier2 жыл бұрын
Gorou's ascension stat is completely meaningless because he doesn't actually scale with Def outside of his c4's healing ability. His skill/buffs are entirely based on skill level. The only useful substat he could have ascended into would have been ER. The better examples for terrible Ascension stats would be the Shield/Healers. Like it or not Sucrose Anemo bonus is still a fitting edition to her Kit and she can work as a anemo dps without her focus on EM sharing. She is not at all slowed down by that ascension excluding the meta wanting her to be completely EM, which mihoyo doesn't care for. (Also there's a clear theme that catalyst users are the most likely to scale into their element bonus stat). The same cannot be said for Thoma's Atk scaling and Diona's Cryo scaling, even at their best dps builds they are nowhere near the potential of other 4*'s and that doesn't even put into the fact that they have the lowest base health pools despite their entire kit wanting as much HP scaling as possible.
@kimkardashi-un2.0512 жыл бұрын
Diona got the same problem as well, they gave her cryo bonus. For what? They want us to charge shot with Diona or smt? 🙂
@ParafrostV2 жыл бұрын
@@kimkardashi-un2.051 well at least she has Shenhe. My E does 8k per hit with Shenhe buff lol.
@Oxygen10042 жыл бұрын
@@ParafrostV and Bennett can do +80k every 2 seconds with his E, Diona was never meant to be a DPS and her cryo% scaling makes no sense
@jakeail19952 жыл бұрын
pre video cmt: - as a Xinyan main, i hate split scaling so much (let me get out of the way first) - as much as i hate seeing char with hybrid scaling due PTSD from Xinyan and even Zhongli pre buff, i can't deny the benefit that hybrid scaling can bring to both gameplay and char design but also the risk it carry as it is a double edge sword. - imo there is 2 way to go with hybrid scaling: 1. The hybrid scaling manage to convert into 1 single goal/purpose or into each other at the end (for example Hutao scale off on both HP and ATK but it all for her dmg at the end) 2. The hybrid scaling that make char have 2 different role when focus on one of them, this way can be good cause it give char different playstyle/role if both is as good as each other and good compare to other char with the same role but you know how it go with Xinyan, they did tried but fail so bad (also i doubt mhy will really make a good char with this type of scaling cause it will make that char too good/OP and mhy is stingy as well) - If in the future, when we get more hybrid scaling char, i hope mhy make type 1 like i said above cause they proven to us they bad at making type 2 hybrid scaling but ofc they might give us a surprise and actually make a good type 2 hybrid scaling char, let keep the copium up for now
@ReaperCet2 жыл бұрын
Type 1 (dual scaling) characters are good, possibly even OP. Type 2 (split scaling) characters would need way higher multipliers for both stats in order to compete with type 1. But then xinyan runs the risk of being way too strong with something like a redhorn. But if type one characters are allowed to be op, then so should type 2 characters.
@jakeail19952 жыл бұрын
@@ReaperCet thanks, i didn't know the correct term
@NexTySCOL2 жыл бұрын
@@ReaperCet This. incidentally, there are only two true split-scaling characters in the game: Xinyan and Albedo. Albedo's split scaling on DEF and ATK was weird on his release but it was clear he was meant to be an off-field dps. Then he got the kokomi/zhongli treatment and was given a tailor made weapon wich kinda consolidated his playstyle. on the other hand Xinyan's initial role as a unit is really unclear, she's a shielder but then her shield is kinda weak. Her elem skill and burst have okay multipliers but then is split in damage type (pyro and physical). her buffs to physical damage are good but then her element is pyro which makes it uncomfortable to play her as a physical support. it feels like she's trying to be an all purpose unit but her kit contradicts itself.
@ReaperCet2 жыл бұрын
@@NexTySCOL and albedo was only fixable with a bandaid that was made specifically for him. MHY knows that split scaling doesn't work. They need to just give xinyan the albedo treatment and call it a day.
@AbdullachWML2 жыл бұрын
@@ReaperCet Come on, pre cinnabar Albedo was still a decent character. Cinnabar+Husk treatment just made him into a top tier but he was still a viable choice before and the only chara with 3* BiS weapon which made him low cost/high reward option.
@nastaboikpopdance2 жыл бұрын
I consider Yae Miko's EM scaling and Kamisato Ayato's HP scaling specifically to be more like "so rolling that stat doesn't feel useless". Maxing that stat will most likely decrease the overall damage because of the low scaling, but having some sub stats here and there will do the trick.
@B00mt00b2 жыл бұрын
Hybrid scaling would be resolved if Artifacts were more consistent. I got a Gladiator CRate circlet that rolled into CDmg and Def% to the point where I used it on Noelle who used it wonderfully. If we could have more control over the stats that we get from Artifacts, then we could take adavantge of Hybrid scaling more often and less characters would suffer because of it. However, cases like Xinyan -where her scaling just isn't good enough even with well-rounded artifacts- won't be fixed. At least in the overworld and for DPS check events, she's totally fine.
@RagingPeanutButter2 жыл бұрын
So I just finished building my Xinyan for fun today and I actually feel like she's not that bad at C6. Her C6 actually allows her to not loose out on that much damage when her DEF stat values are being invested into. So she is actually kind of like Hutao where she can be both tanky and deal dmg at the same time. Her dmg output is probably at around the same tier of other 4 stars non-Xiangling level dps, such as Chongyun or Yanfei. My problem with Xinyan comes down to 2 points. Her element being pyro, and her C6 being locked behind her charged attacks. The beyblade style charge attack is just so bad to use. You sacrifice all of your mobility to do it + it has an annoying startup animation. If the C6 bonus was given leeway into her other abilities and not only for her charged attacks, she will end up being very solid character and nowhere near overpowered.
@lolosh992 жыл бұрын
I think if you invested the same amount into Noelle it would probably be better. Not to mention Husk exists so…
@volodyan77802 жыл бұрын
MrCode Xinyan with c6 r5 5* and perfect arts, cant outdps my yanfei with 4* weap and above average artifacts, so it is copium (maybe mono pyro yanfei or overload is camparable, but not vape). At good investment even amber could perform decent, it doesn't make her good character.
@periwinkle11362 жыл бұрын
The thing about her C6 is that it doesn't just increase charge attack damage but it increases at ATK by 50% of her DEF so it would increase the damage of her lvl3 shield during her charged attack. I don't think this would increase the damage of her burst because the buff may go away before the burst can be activated, though I never tested.
@skybattler26242 жыл бұрын
Xinyan's downfall isn't just about her hybrid acalong, but the fact she is a Physical-centric PYRO character in a game where Electro and Cryo are needed to create Superconduct. If Xinyan was Electro or Cryo, she would be a very good Noelle Alternative.
@chanulweerasekara33682 жыл бұрын
@@periwinkle1136 i think there is a slight delay with the attack decrease so with good timing you can still get the buff
@snapedu91662 жыл бұрын
7:00 BRUHHHHH.. I just wanted to put it out there💚💚 sucrose💚💚 is one of there first good hybrid scalling checters that still hold up well.her em shareing allows her to stack all em to not only help her but her teammate, ps it really benfits her more cus of her low scalling swirl only relys on lvl and em so she can do so much damgg even with low scalling and talent lvl👍👍
@snapedu91662 жыл бұрын
(Sorry for my bad English) 🙏🙏
@yummykebab67112 жыл бұрын
Sucrose scales only on em though? Since atk isn't necessary for swirl
@snapedu91662 жыл бұрын
@@yummykebab6711 sorry my wording is off 🙏🙏 🙏 u r right she dosent i was talking About her lvl not talent lvl and the swirl damge not her atk damge
@omaral-majed38342 жыл бұрын
She is like kazoha 👍
@snapedu91662 жыл бұрын
@@omaral-majed3834 yes😁😁
@bazookaman13532 жыл бұрын
Having someone with a game design background talking about the game is a blessing.
@theinfantmetroid2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I love the 5 weapon types; Bow, Claymore, Polearm, Bow and Catalyst
@arocomisgamusclademork16032 жыл бұрын
But Catalyst isn't Meta weapon type than skill burst and passives
@dylan37462 жыл бұрын
Sword characters be like: I don't exist, im just an illusion
@mayday25022 жыл бұрын
leme just use my ranged prototype:anger
@kirin12302 жыл бұрын
@@arocomisgamusclademork1603 Wut
@arocomisgamusclademork16032 жыл бұрын
@@kirin1230 why not just play Catalyst character to see what I mean that
@Sukol5012 жыл бұрын
Stat conversion ---> alternative stat scaling. You avoid the issue of split scaling this way (Xinyan *cof cof*). Take C6 Noelle for example, for burst mode only, it converts her DEF into ATK and added to whatever ATK she had before, so she can have the best of both worlds. Despite DEF% scaling harder, if you get ATK% substats it doesn't hurt that much because she can use both. Same for Raiden, Zhongli, Hutao. They can use both their ER into Electro DMG or HP into ATK, and ATK% itself. Kokomi is "kinda" the opposite. Because she can't crit, CR and CD substats are dead stats on her, and we all know this game has a desire sensor and gives you CR,CD,ER,ATK on HP% and Healing Bonus pieces lol. Also why is Xiangling so broken? Snapshot, no ICD, pyro and she can use 5 out of 7 freakin stats: ATK, CR, CD, ER, and EM. Only HP and DEF are useless on her (and the holy trinity of flat_atk, flat_def and flat_hp that is useless on everyone lol).
@AbdullachWML2 жыл бұрын
Actually if you do the math flat DEF is more beneficial for C6 Noelle then ATK%. She's scaling so hard off DEF that you want flat DEF on your arties. EDIT: That of course if you can keep your ULT uptime 100%.
@senpajishere62032 жыл бұрын
For 4 star dps tho, i would argue having some levels going to the flat atk sub isnt bad and could even be better then Atk%
@Runawayturist2 жыл бұрын
To me, hybrid scaling is how the developers justified having "varied" artifacts. This is both a good and bad thing because, until a character is announced and examined we used those dead artifacts to level other ones and then having to search again for what we used to call dead artifacts for the new hybrid character.
@@snapedu9166 same, I love my mans running around with 3k atk and defense. And the enemies are like, "bro, why??"
@nhaan41782 жыл бұрын
@@ReaperCet Unless he faces off geo slimes and spectres, then we'll play physical Itto
@ReaperCet2 жыл бұрын
@@nhaan4178 yeah, thankfully geo slimes/spectres are rare and Geo shields are actually weak to Geo. Or it'd be a bad time.
@AziSlays2 жыл бұрын
5:06 clearly you've never played competitive pokemon ever before in your life because no, type matchup does not determine the battle's outcome. Type matchup is very important but experience with a given team, the mental game (predictions/knowing how smart your opponent is), (when applicable) the general power of the pokemon in your team, and most simply of all literally just the various speed stats of your team (it's better to be faster or slower in different situations) are all drastically more important factors when it comes to winning a battle. If you know what you're doing you can beat a mono-fire team with mono-grass and it won't even be that hard.
@aatb37192 жыл бұрын
This is why I want C2 Albedo. That shit is mad op.
@rirururu46972 жыл бұрын
C2 Albedo also gets a little flower that follows him. I love it.
@Svenir2 жыл бұрын
I just hope the many recent dual-scaling characters aren't only there so they can just not fix the terrible artifact system... this might sound crazy, but I genuinely wouldn't put it past them.
@maryanntheconqueror2 жыл бұрын
This was a really solid vid. In some ways, Mihoyos general openness towards any character being used is quite nice, allowing people to use characters they like on a personal level over what’s meta, which in turn is more friendly towards F2P/low spenders. Even with the “worst” units like Amber and Xinyan, if you give them some good supports they can clear most content (I still see Amber abyss clears from time to time). However, like you mentioned, it results in a lack of proper challenge or incentive to use these new units. The main way Genshin has been increasing the challenge of spiral abyss is just by shoving more and more HP on the enemies. At this point abyss can still be cleared by players of any spending range, but if taken to an extreme this can result in only “whale damage” being viable, with strategy mattering very little, which could completely destroy the initial “play whoever you want” benefit for non-spenders. The one time I recall them truly adding something to push for certain character usage was corrosion, which while I was skeptical of at first, I will give them the credit of keeping the mechanic in game rather than just a one-time Kokomi ad. It created a reason to want Kokomi, but for people who couldn’t roll for her characters like Barbara and Qiqi were still possible, as long as you made sure the rest of the team did enough damage with a pure healer support. That all being said, I hope they take some time to make characters of the element/weapon types we still don’t have, especially with Dendro coming up. I do have a theory that maybe they want archons to be the first to use certain weapon with their respective element-which could be totally be proved wrong any time soon, btw-but even then there’s still gaps. Ok essay over.
@KariMusic01162 жыл бұрын
3:41 ah yes, my favourite sword, sacrificial bow
@Kurinth2 жыл бұрын
I think Shenhe's design is the way to go, specific use cases that dont break the game as a whole
@RA-ux3fu2 жыл бұрын
no. not for 5 stars. not everyone has the resource to use on average 90+ pulls to get a " niche" character
@0xVENx02 жыл бұрын
nah shenhe is terrible, she is literally perfect as a 4 star, thats why gorou sint bad. like gorou id easily one of the worst m the game, but him being a 4star, makes his niche ability okay, bc when he gets his team hes strong but not shenhe, yunjin is better and shes a 4star, bc yunjin works with all characters in the game, some better than others while shenhe already works with a small amount but to top it off shes a 5star
@Oxygen10042 жыл бұрын
@SharinganSakura That's what they said tho? All they were saying is the fact she's a 5* is what they think makes her "bad"
@kaka-gz4qg2 жыл бұрын
@bird she doesn't buff 2 characters in the whole game, with chongyun she can buff any melee character technically, besides, I hope you realise that she buffs all cryos and not ganyu/ayaka
@GT-xw7rg2 жыл бұрын
@bird she doesn’t buff 2 characters, she buffs an entire element, which will only scale better as the game goes on, there’s nothing wrong with element specific buffers 4 or 5 star, strength of the buffs matter more than how widespread the buff is.
@renhisui2222 жыл бұрын
3:42 "Swords" proceeds to show a bow. XD
@kevinjustlikett2 жыл бұрын
I havent seen brave frontier in a HOT minute omg…
@sakurasensations47862 жыл бұрын
Proud Shenhe main here-when co-oping with a friend, she was quickly convinced to roll on a Shenhe rerun because mine buffed her Ganyu and Ayaka so well. So she’s definitely a great investment and her affects on a full Cryo team are fantastic! I’d recommend her to everyone. (I pair her with Diona and Chongyun. Wonderful trio!)
@buttermanaws46932 жыл бұрын
Really hybrid scaling has only three levels Works - Hu-Tao, Raiden, Kazuha,Itto Does not work - Xinyan, Toma Not needed/ ignored - Yae, Ayato Most work but the few that don't stand out
@nhaan41782 жыл бұрын
Zhongli should be added to the "work" group.
@buttermanaws46932 жыл бұрын
@@nhaan4178 look there were so many works that I didn't want to add another, like I said many of the units work it's just the few that don't that make us question it
@nevadachi2 жыл бұрын
Genshin is apparently simple, but the whole elemental reaction, ICD, is surprisingly deep.
@RA-ux3fu2 жыл бұрын
yes, but the issue is that the games difficulty is elementary, hence there is no need to get a deep understanding of the mechanics.
@njb9822 жыл бұрын
I think there need to be a distinction between split scaling and hybrid cause those aren’t the same. A few people in comments are bringing up albedo and xinyan as examples of hybrid scaling but they aren’t since ATK or DEF will push in favor for a specific part of their kit unlike raiden which is actually hybrid. Koko is also an example of hybrid scaling but the dramatic issue with her kit is that it has trade-offs instead of just supplementary benefits. Having any type of trade off for a stat you can build for yourself creates pretty underwhelming performance although it dose shifts the focus of building to make it easier. For kokomi I’m specifically talking about her dmg capabilities, her healing is great obviously. Hybrid scaling seems like a difficult thing for MHY tho; miko scaling ability is underwhelming, kokomi has trade-offs, it seems like they hit the mark on raiden and are trying to hard renovate it. Tho the value of the DEF -> ATK type of scaling for noelle was kept basically consistent with itto even if he does have trade offs in his kit.
@salceds2 жыл бұрын
Miko's scaling is supposedly for the Dendro reaction, you'll see
@njb9822 жыл бұрын
@@salceds I keep hearing that but I can’t be comfortable with that excuse since there is so much stuff they should have given her so she is perfectly functional on release instead of 3 patches after along with the scaling not being high enough to be effective without reactions. AOE would have fixed her c2 problem, electro sherd would have improve her sub dps value, or even team wide cool down reduction would have given her better synergy with raiden and especially Sara since Miko can’t snapshot, MHY had the idea of cool down reduction abilities in the beta testing but they keep taking it out of characters kits. If I remember correctly Sara and Ayato had cool down reduction abilities but Sara’s got nerfed and Ayato’s removed.
@kingdoom50222 жыл бұрын
Kokomi isn't a damage dealer but her damage is very high considering she's also support and the new set , that's why kokomi is the best driver for off field DPS in the game along with sucrose
@hanolley44432 жыл бұрын
@@kingdoom5022 if it wasn't for Kokomi being good in freeze team I don't think she'd be meta at all and that's all thanks to ToTM and her hydro application not clam (clam set does not.make.her meta at all) what makes her meta is that she makes basically one of the most broken dps team in the game even stronger (ayaka, shenhe, kazuha) her electro-charged team isn't meta and sukokomon require 1- low latency fast internet 2- high quality hardware 3- perfect and strict execution with 0 mistakes that's unrealistic for 98% of players so I'd not count that team are part of "meta" if not everyone can use it and get decent results
@nhaan41782 жыл бұрын
What sort of trade offs in Itto's kit? I'm just curious
@TNinja02 жыл бұрын
5:27 There aren't many dungeon that requires a specific strategy, but that ONE Ice Domain in Mondstadt sure is picky about what elements it wants me to use. Anyone who isn't Pyro or Electro have little use there, and Hydro is suicide.
@alvinyu53872 жыл бұрын
Regarding electro healing mentioned stuff 8:20, Kuki is slated to fill that spot. It’s really nice to see new unit types, which will open more team options.
@sasha85782 жыл бұрын
another wonderfully put video. I don't mind hybrid scaling but at the cost of crit rate is kinda ridiculous to the point where they need to make an artifact set that can really only be used on kokomi and qiqi and whatever niche uses. Raiden artifact set can be used on so many characters and it's the only domain I farm right now. PS, love your voice.
@limitedhangoutlive2 жыл бұрын
MHY went in the right direction with forcing team splits in abyss but there needs to be affixes that force you to experiment with different comps and elements. Imagine a floor where shields simply don’t work as an example. Or, a debuff if you trigger an interaction that would otherwise be really good for that floor. There is an artifact domain where at higher levels it doesn’t matter but if you try doing 90 at a lower level, the affix HURTS. It’s against frost abyss mages but if you melt or something (I forget which interaction), you start getting obliterated by random damage. They should build on this.
@JohnSmith-xo9te2 жыл бұрын
That’s the domain where it gives archaic Petra and retracing bolide. If player triggers melt reactions, player’s character suffers true damage. If player triggers superconduct, enemies take true damage.
@TheProswagonist2 жыл бұрын
2:22 I know that's not Brave Frontier, but it reminded me of it, and I wanna say RIP to my first gatcha.
@someoneweird97052 жыл бұрын
Man, Brave Frontier popping up at 2:13 really just hit me with a wave of melancholy. One of the biggest victims of power creep I have ever seen, it still holds a special place in my heart as my first gacha game. RIP Brave Frontier
@froid13842 жыл бұрын
I recently built my Albedo. I was hesitant at first because I wasn't sure what to do with his ATK and DEF scaling. His burst still deals a decent amount of damage without me actually focusing for ATK, so I suppose he is okay.
@Urkikk2 жыл бұрын
I like the hybrid scaling in Genshin, as much as how strangely or questionable some character designs are to me. they’re like riddles to solve rather than having generic pure ATK scaling, add a bit of confusion to get people busy for a while, and it’s pretty fun to look at. Who knows maybe we can get more out of Xinyan when we figured out
@fitakot47232 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but there is no saving grace for Xinyan, she is just a failed attempt
@Urkikk2 жыл бұрын
@@fitakot4723 doesn’t mean I’ll just stop and walk away all these time.
@johnjasper32162 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, hybrid scaling allows for people to play characters differently. By prioritizing one stat over the other and vice versa to play a completely different play style.
@thezard70132 жыл бұрын
also allows easier builds. like if you don't get the desired stats you at least have the other.
@johnjasper32162 жыл бұрын
@@thezard7013 exactly! Like, I *love* to play Xinyan. Her split scaling isn't the bad thing about her, it allows you to play her as a damage dealer or sub DPS shielder. But it's her scaling and other factors like her unfixed bugs that is the problem. Or Albedo! His skill is on Def but his burst is on atk, but do note that I don't have Albedo so I might be wrong about this
@Stormraider8212 жыл бұрын
@@johnjasper3216 Albedo's burst does run that way unless you unlock his constellation, in which case it also partially scales off Def. Edit: To be more specific, C2 constellation.
@AdamCDagg2 жыл бұрын
3:40 Interesting, I've never tried Sacrificial Bow on my sword wielders before
wanted to put out albedo as well. he scales based on def for elemental skill whereas attack for burst(I know you can get c2 but really who would go for his c2 when there is shogun). It frustrates me that one tick on his elemental skill is more than his burst damage. my albedo has 3k def and 1.2k attack with crit ratio 54/120. albedo should scale off his def for both his e and q....
@ceyx12012 жыл бұрын
Albedo is a SHE. SHE'S A LADY! Not a HE.
@nivi-ec4px2 жыл бұрын
@@ceyx1201 what? Albedo is a guy, i have no idea how you thought he was a girl
@nhaan41782 жыл бұрын
@@ceyx1201 What are you smoking? Albedo is a guy
@spiderninja_12 жыл бұрын
After they introduced that 2.3 sword, his role in damage was definitely solidified to be a skill-based role rather than burst-based
@farannazar1552 жыл бұрын
@@spiderninja_1 But my point was that he should scale off on his def for his burst as well so that his overall damage goes up. i mean scaling off on different stats for his e and q is absolutely ridiculous and I am saying this as someone who has used albedo for quite a while
@marklokimorr87092 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the nonexistant sacrificial polearm in 3:44
@JustinStewart2 жыл бұрын
Very well thought out video. Great job!
@leelareyes45082 жыл бұрын
Is that a double cleave in RTA at 2:07!? Mad respect for drafting rose in 2022
@Ki_Vladilena_Milize2 жыл бұрын
I think we need more characters like Shenhe and Yunjin. Dmg boost they give is really really good.
@Hoolahups2 жыл бұрын
I also think we should definitely have some more really niche supports. Shenhe, while only specifically useful for 3 characters (ganyu, ayaka, and chongyun) is also supporting 2 of the best 5 star characters and one of the best 4 star characters. With shenhe support, my chongyun can hit harder than my Eula's normal attack by a decent margin, but it doesn't feel gamebreaking either.
@Thomsn_Gazelle2 жыл бұрын
Love how there is a sac. bow instead of the sword and Homa as the spear.
@uddiptojana78842 жыл бұрын
I think 90% of genshin's problems can be traced back to the artifact system: currently we can only get Crit rate, Crit damage and Healing bonus on the circlet slot, Damage bonus only on the goblet slot while the flower and feather is fixed to flat HP and ATK. Imagine if this restriction wouldn't have been there and you could get any desired stat on any slot many of the weapons and characters out there that have so called 'problems', wouldn't have been problematic. Imagine if you could have crit rate in one slot crit damage in another, atk% weapons like unforged wouldn't be considered bad. Imagine if you could have artifacts like atk%, def%, phys bonus, crit, rate crit damage as artifact main stats may be xinyan wouldn't have been as bad as she is.
@uddiptojana78842 жыл бұрын
@bird The comparison between amos and unforged is totally invalid because aimed shots of bow users can hit weak points in which case they always score a critical hit. That is why atk%, damage bonus and crit damage stats are better than crit rate for aimed shot DPS units. As for Unforged the passive is 'bad' you say, but you might as well try to reason why is it 'bad' in the first place. The reason it is bad because the substat is atk% the passive also gives atk%, feather slot will give flat atk while my sands will also give atk% if it is an atk scaling unit (not sure why you would put unforged on them otherwise) . You just end up with too much atk% which gives dimishing returns. But if the artifact main stats weren't rigid and you could put any thing on any slot you would have the opportunity to focus on offensive stats other than atk, because the unforged already would take care of the atk portion of the damage formula.
@frequent_blue20712 жыл бұрын
10:40 does this guy play the game? hutao and ganyu's damage is from their charged attacks and they only have 60 cost. only in morgana is ganyus burst her primary damage source but she has no er issues w venti a4 passive and 2nd cryo unit. hutaos burst does the same damage from 2 charged attacks more or less.
@veraducks2 жыл бұрын
3:37 I think doing a video on the weapon-element diversity issue would be a good thing to touch on. We're inching towards 3.0 and still don't have a cryo catalyst, hydro claymore, or hydro polearm. The four most recent characters, as well as both upcoming characters, are all retreads of what we've already seen. That's half a year. When Dendro releases, are we going to sit around for 3-6 months with a single 5* dendro sword? It's not even so much the number of characters released. It's more that the wave of Pyro and Cryo units was annoying in the short term, but has consistently bothersome effects even today. Oh, we're finally getting a new Hydro character? ...oh it's *another* 5* bow.
@shadcroly2 жыл бұрын
To anyone curious, the music during the video is "Far From Home", the theme of the Drowned City of Skalla from Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood.
@AkumaItachi2 жыл бұрын
And it's still funny how meta slaves called both Raiden and Kokomi trash and now they are both on top lol Split scaling doesn't automatically mean a bad character and not everything needs to be best of the best I use Thoma and he shields my Tao permanently, is more fun to play and i actually like his character unlike Zhongli's, that's why i won't use him Thoma should really scale with HP or ER tho, that attack makes no sense
@alexegoleanu9422 жыл бұрын
I think this special scaling makes sense on characters, geo represents crystalize/shieldin/protection so it makes sense for a geobcharacter to scale on def, in Zhongli's case hp makes him more durable because he's a tank and doesn't have to die too fast, Hu Tao makes also sense cuz she works at the Funeral Parlor, Shogun scales of energy recharge cuz electro element simbolises energy and also the electro resonance gives you more energy, many of them makes sense in my opinion and is nice to have more diversity in our build and learn about each character
@impendio2 жыл бұрын
Hey Vars, here’s a suggestion for a video, badly designed/incomplete characters that just happen to be good and see play because they have enough numbers. Or characters where their element just simply doesn’t really matter to their functioning. My first volunteer would be Xiao, which is extremely popular, reasonably strong on a vacuum, but honestly really broken in the bad sense of the word where him being Anemo is just flavor and having a whole bunch of internal or external problems, same with Eula being Cryo and all the problems with physical damage, etc. Raiden or Zhongli would also pretty much fit this category but you already went through their existences on why everyone plays but could be an unifying factor for poorly designed characters that are not bad by any mean or even pretty meta.
@zerochan98952 жыл бұрын
While me as a casual player: As long as the enemies die ASAP, it'll works 🤣
@cleod74392 жыл бұрын
Personally i enjoy hybrid scalling characters, they are a lot easier to farm artifacts for than the comun scalling characters and make fell different to use them (like kokomi, in who the most important thing is her healing, if she heals a lot, her dmg is a lot too)
@LeviathanCove2 жыл бұрын
Good call out on Shenhe. You’re right it’s kind of a unique twist on alternate scaling.
@BaselardFE2 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed the hybrid scaling with Albedo, Noelle and Kokomi. I just wish Xinyan's scaling was better, hers don't really harmonize that well
@ramtosantosa76612 жыл бұрын
If only her shield based off physical damage bonus😿
@alexliengsky6884 Жыл бұрын
So after this long, I'd say that hybrid scaling has pretty much become the norm in Genshin, for better and for worse. The good is that this has diversified the roster quite a bit but now resources are getting spread more and more to the point that HP/ER/ATK are just as rare as each other, while the demand of EM hasn't been compensated with an increase of its drop rate. Enemies are also becoming more specific, and although they still allow enough liberty to play whatever you like, their restrictions are getting quite specific it's obvious they were intended to only be dealt on that specific way like it's the case of Serpent Knights, Aeonblight, ASIMON, Wenut, Heralds, etc. So now certain team archetypes are more favoured than others which made for having a more variety of characters who may have the same function but serve a different role. We may now have healers of all 7 elements but each one is used in very different ways, much like we technically can make everyone a DPS or a Tank. 6:01 Now, in the case of Genshin, you don't really care how *powerful* a new unit might be, but how *useful* it may be. Yelan/Ayato aren't as powerful as Xingqiu but they allow you to run XQ in other teams and can bring around the same utility. Yae on the other hand is not as useful as Fischl so her value is less in comparison, same for Shenhe when you already have an invested 2nd Cryo unit on your team, or Cyno when you already built Keqing, and so on. 6:55/8:01 Bruh you cannot do this to me... EM is not exclusive to Kazuha and it wasn't useless until him, you literally have Sucrose since day 1. And sure, Venti doesn't have EM scalings but he takes as much advantage of it as Sucrose and Kazuha do because of Swirl. Outside of Anemo, Pyro and Cryo units also benefit from SOME EM because it increases their reaction DMG, so no it's not useless and it certainly isn't now with Dendro. 8:28 Actual utility and a good element lol. Zhongli is just comfy, not broken. Thoma has been useful for both Burgeon and Overburn comps since you kinda need a Pyro for that. Layla and Diona can apply Cryo for Freeze without shattering the Aura unlike Zhongli or hell you can put them on Fridge if you so much want you. 10:32 Well let's not get ahead of ourselves. Sure she's useful but her alternatives aren't that far behind her. And did you really say Ganyu and Hu Tao have high energy cost bursts? The same ones that cost 40 and 60 respectively? The same ones who don't need as many ER requirements because their teammates have at least one Favonius weapon? Sure their requirements aren't 0 but you kinda get ER from substats unless you really just focused on Crit without realising ER and ATK/HP are just as valuable. Raiden powercrept no one, she simply made things more comfortable on teams that use her, she isn't your ultimate problem-solver because you still need ER on your other units. Also 4pc Emblem allows anyone to scale on ER so have those characters powercrept teams? No, they just make you focus more on offensive stats 12:02 I already talked about Kokomi on your previous video so there's no need to repeat myself. Crit doesn't matter to her much like Crit doesn't matter to Barbara or Diona or Sucrose or Venti and why 4pc Clam when 4pc ToM. Stop believing twitter and reddit, talk to actual theorycrafters.
@catchyname10812 жыл бұрын
Crit is so hard to get unless you are farming for Kokomi...
@persnicketyVC2 жыл бұрын
I love Qiqi's character, her story, her lore of being a victim to the casualties of war. ...but god, her hybrid scaling of physical-cryo-healing just confuses the hell out of me, and it doesn't feel like the best, nor easiest thing to play. She's one of the characters I really want just for the story, but never for gameplay/abyss.
@syarifairlangga46082 жыл бұрын
Qiqi stat is invest all on attack
@Arualiaa2 жыл бұрын
What are you on about? Her healing scales off ATK, just like Jean and Sayu. Nothing easier than slapping ocean clam with ATK artifacts, black sword or sac sword for more skill uptime, and that’s it.
@hasincobb73762 жыл бұрын
Did anybody notice that when he was naming the weapon types he put down two bow as the pictures
Btw xainyn the not only has weird def x atk split scalling she is a pyro x phycal /dps x Support 😢😢
@njb9822 жыл бұрын
She doesn’t have support capabilities, she can be used as a support but DEF shields are specifically made for protecting the caster since DEF general scales lower than HP. Although noelle is good as a support shielder that’s cause of her element giving a bonus to her shield and insane base DEF. which is supposed to make her the f2p carrier.
@CurtisCreates2 жыл бұрын
Appreciated the Star Wars reference 2:53
@slavikcrusader962 жыл бұрын
3:42 Thats a funky looking sword there
@thique78302 жыл бұрын
3:44 i don’t wanna be that person but…that sword looks a little wierd to me at 4:33 too, what a coincidance 3:44 and 4:33
@SainInaban2 жыл бұрын
I like the video and appreciate the matters talked in the video, But we also have to keep it in mind that Genshin impact is not a hardcore tryhard pushing/grinding type game. Its a casual game with gatcha (characters & weapons) as endgame. People often complicate stuffs which is not wrong, like i person fan of theory crafters but sometimes doing too much like literally being a PhD in Genshin is sometimes unhealthy and depressing. we have to sometimes chill and understand the bigger picture.
@vedantkandhare68702 жыл бұрын
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@Aerith-77x2 жыл бұрын
Vars, I was wondering if you'd be making a "Why Everyone Plays Kokomi" video. A few months back you made a "Why No One Plays Kokomi" video and even then it felt unjustified as she was the 12th most used character in the abyss. Now things have changed drastically and she's the second most used character in the abyss. You've already made these types of videos for Kazuha and Raiden due to their high usage/ utility. Wanted to know if you had a redemption video like that in the works for Kokomi - Kokomi enthusiast
@neo-zamato2 жыл бұрын
Abyss usage rate isn't a useful indicator as MHY/Hoyoverse themselves have Disabled the API for the Website so the data for abyss statistics is pretty much Dead. Also abyss statistics only considered players who can 36 abyss so it doesn't have the actual accurate Information regarding unit usage and unit vacancy as the data that was used only showed a small amount of data. Tldr. Don't use abyss statistics, MHY killed the site already by the removal of API
@Aerith-77x2 жыл бұрын
@@bot-xk8nz Everyone knows Kazuha had low sales, why wasn't anyone discrediting abyss usage rates when it worked in Kazuha's favour??
@Aerith-77x2 жыл бұрын
@@bot-xk8nz no one said anything about how many people want Kazuha. I spoke about how many people own Kazuha. You're trying to discredit Kokomi's high usage in the abyss with a low ownership. Kazuha has a low ownership but his been 1st since his release. Where were all of you when Kazuha was being praised for his high usage with low ownership.
@Aerith-77x2 жыл бұрын
@@bot-xk8nz you really are dense, you still aren't answering the question I asked. I'm not gonna waste my time on someone so dense
@rboygamer66682 жыл бұрын
@@Aerith-77x Just because they play her in abyss doesn't mean everyone play her everytime, in Kazuha case everyone play Kazuha because he can everything outside of abyss like exploration, your exploration is gonna be more easier if you have him and Genshin have more others things outside of abyss because Genshin is a open world.
@hambrurg Жыл бұрын
Isn't anyone gonna talk about the lagged Raiden burst? It's quite terrifying to watch
@alexdati79402 жыл бұрын
"We have 5 weapon types, sword-" *pulls out a bow*
@yunexxe2 жыл бұрын
**cries in friendship lvl 10 thoma collecting dust in the character archive and C2-less albedo**
@galaxykitsune2 жыл бұрын
I think hybrid scaling is a good way to keep characters (and the building of them) from being super monotonous. When it's badly done, it does bother me, but when it is done right it's a really fun concept. I think it's a good thing to continue doing on units that aren't already going to be stretched kinda thin, and if the stat scaling is something that would already be useful to them or is in some other way synergetic. Kokomi's scaling is almost saved by her passive honestly, it would've been a lot less commonly used if she didn't have that innate healing bonus as well as the -100% crit rate, as trying to build for crits, healing bonus, and HP at the same time would've stretched her too thin. This way, she can still deal acceptable damage just from improving her healing capabilities. While Kokomi certainly still has a few flaws in her design, I'd say she's my favorite example of this kind of hybrid scaling done right--their goal was to create a reliable healer that could deal damage without sacrificing large amounts of their healing capabilities, and they did just that.
@xenith89382 жыл бұрын
"We still dont have a Hydro tank or an Electro healer" got me ngl
@coolgabe5552 жыл бұрын
Btw if you want to run a fun build try ER Keqing out. She gets 15%er and crate whenever she bursts and has a cdmg accension so its very easy to stack high cdmg crate and 200% er with an emblem set and just spam her kit out. Can even use Skyward_Blade on her and she uses most of its niches well.
@olixil682 жыл бұрын
I do like your comparison of Venti and Kazuha since Venti still has a niche in freeze teams as Kazuha shatters with his E.
@jomjom2302 жыл бұрын
Yae and Ayato's extra scaling isn't much different, but VERY different at the same time. Ayato works because Dev's gave him higher HP base than normal. meaning, you don't have to go for full HP, but he will still get the extra added damage regardless because everyone has HP. Yae Miko doesn't because EM is exclusively from Artifacts and weapons, occasionally ascension which she doesn't have. I think if her extra scaling goes for Def instead it would make much more sense, everyone has Def. It will also help her squishiness a little bit so that players won't feel much disapointed in getting Def rolls.
@Saneec2 жыл бұрын
miko is crazy happy rn
@mrdata98232 жыл бұрын
I think some characters you mentioned aren't real hybrid scaling. For example hu tao: all of her damage scales off her attack which coincidentally is increased by a skill that scales off her hp. For me hybrid scaling is being able to increase the power of a skill with different stats, like ezreal's Q from lol for example, this is why Raiden works so well or hu tao works so well, you are able to still stack one stat for damage, then there is s char like albedo that I'd call split scaling because if you increase one stat it only affects one part of his kit and if you increase two stats you will never maximize his potential in either of his skills, that's what I think is the problem with these characters.
@PewPewSol2 жыл бұрын
As someone who went all in on my cryo team. That one wolf weekly boss shits on me for being immune to ayaka. Yeah I can definitely relate to “elements don’t matter”
@stephenwu15242 жыл бұрын
8:30 It's very easy to think of a thing a tank unit can add that zhongli doesn't have: d a m a g e
@ThatChrisG2 жыл бұрын
Didn't think I'd hear the Skalla theme in a Genshin vid good taste
@jellocat92442 жыл бұрын
8:20 Bruh this came out 2 days ago and you don’t know that Kuki shinobu is an electro healer?!?
@VarsII2 жыл бұрын
I don't look at leaks :)
@guilhermealveslopes2 жыл бұрын
Heizou utilizes EM in the same way as miko, EM buffs a secondary source of dmg of his (the swirls), but you're better off focusing on atk, crits (rate and dmg) and Anemo dmg%, whilst him using EM only means that if you do happen to get a bit of it on the sub-stats, its not useless and will be well used. Also, I found that the solar pearl does wonders for him, even my severely low level Heizou (lvl 60, with solar pearl 60 and talents 4/4/4) can easily deal 15k of E dmg, and around 8k of burst damage, quite high for a lvl 60 character.
@tengogamer26662 жыл бұрын
gorou is a example, scaling with def in your ult but atk in his Q, ascend bonus geo and have an bad constelation
@364-unbirthdays82 жыл бұрын
The thing about hybrid artifacts (getting main hp/def etc stat on artifacts) is that because artifact 4pc/2pc bonuses matters so much, any artifact that manages to land that double crit but doesn't fit into that specific character's best artifact set is automatically useless anyways.
@林振华-t4v2 жыл бұрын
Im actually will welcome swiss knife character like Noelle. I think she is hybrid scale as well, and on the broken side. Because healing and burst attack are a scaled from def. With long burst duration. Energy recharge is never too big of issue while you can hording def on main stat and distribute all other sub stat to crit damage/rate, attack and energy recharge. It is almost like it will work regardless what artifect you throw at her. And it get occational renew of interest with new weapon. I decided to pull the unforge because it comes with 20% boost with shield strenght. It comes in very handy while I can free up 1 artifect kit ability for other used (healing, def boost, or energy recharge, or even attack related boost when I want to build a dps Noelle). It is funny that despite my personal attachment, I found Noelle has lot more to tinker with compare to others like Hutao or GanYu.
@allister212 жыл бұрын
3:41 wrongly placed bow ??
@A_random_funeral_consultant2 жыл бұрын
This game just generally needs a huge balance version characters like Thoma compared to others just feel un-serviceable he isn’t terrible but definitely lower than average that’s for certain and I feel like Qiqi could use a rework to make people actually want to get her (I just think she needs more cryo, possibly with her ult and she needs a way to reliably generate energy)
@TRak5982 жыл бұрын
Also, I don't think Kazuha is a good example of stat recycling. First, he is built like Sucrose, an existing character; Then, not only are supports in Genshin historically in need of less crit stuff (meaning he brought nothing new in terms of using "useless" stats for build main DPS units), but using Elemental Mastery actually means that he's VERY hard to build. Why? Well, that's because EM is the rarest main stat and having to "focus" on it for substat is also a pain. For the maximum profit you ALSO have to do it with a very specific set (Viridescent Venerer) which is farmed in a dungeon that offers no other relevant artifact set. Oh, let's not forget that he need 4 pieces worth of VV, which gives a bonus aimed exclusively at support units like him, Sucrose and Sayu. PS: He's not a good example of Split Scalling either, as you are not supposed to build him with anything but EM, at least when it comes to using it as a support in C0/C1/C2.
@jackng38732 жыл бұрын
I do think that adding slightly a little more unique concept will help the game prevent powercreep. eg. new weapon type, new element, new debuffs, etc For example, we all have seen the twins from the hydro nation, imagine they can fight together as twins which require 10 artifacts and 2 weapons but they are classified as 1 character. the one off field can provide buff for the onfield twin and can fight together when burst is activated. For new element and debuffs we already seen, qoq dendro and corrosion. for new weapon type, just think such as hammer, scythe, crossbows etc. That way there will be less powercreep since there are a lot more concepts. For math geeks, thats permutation
@RaffoPhantom2 жыл бұрын
2:53 That game has more clones... And in my mind I finished the sentence already with "than smash" Relevant smash joke check As a concept I really like hybrid scaling. As you said it can make certain stats useful for certain characters. As anecdotal evidence I can present a case that happened to me yesterday. I was farming some crimson witch when the last run gave me a feather. It had hp%, crit rate and crit damage and I ended up pushing it to 20. Long story short: 10.2hp%, 14 crit damage, 3.9 crit rate and some def. In contrast the feather I was using at that time had flat def, def%, 2.7 critrate and 20.2 crit damage. On any pyro character the new feather would certainly be considered worse than the old one. However, since my Hu Tao was using that feather, the new one that gives me 10.2% hp seems actually better despite me losing 6.2 crit damage.
@Redbeardblondie2 жыл бұрын
• Improve the utility of cooperation, both in team composition AND in matchmaking. Make some enemy’s Shields and Abilities vulnerable only to certain Elemental Reactions. Design enemies and encounters so that co-op takes advantage of specific vulnerabilities that lone players have a hard time exploiting. For some characters, certain Elemental Reactions could meaningfully alter their utility in the team. • Give characters (at least the 4-stars) 7-9 Constellation slots. You can still only apply 6 all total, but you have 1-2 alternative slots designed to refocus their kit around a different stat or to change their specific utility. Bennet’s C6 could have an alt path where it unlocks the healing instead of providing the Pyro Infusion, for instance. Amber could have an alt Constellation that increases the cost of her Burst, but also greatly increases its duration.