The Dark History of the Yuuzhan Vong's Galaxy (...and why they left) | Star Wars Legends

On today's video, we examine the dark and disturbing history of the Yuuzhan Vong's galaxy. We cover the mysterious war between droid superpowers, the Cremlevian War, and more on today's Star Wars Legends Lore video.
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[@EckhartsLadder]

Who caught my Empire at War stream last night on my second channel? New upload coming today: kzbin.info Twitter: twitter.com/eckhartsladder

[@thorshammer7883]

#AskEck *Attempt 658* The Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man Pre-Horus Heresy.

[@evilcoleslaw]

@Aditya Parashar *heavy breathing* :P

[@thorshammer7883]

@Nat20 Damage Why?

[@evilcoleslaw]

@@dwzenix7954 try out some mods. Get Thrawn's Revenge and play one of the big era-progressive campaigns.

[@asherailevant9485]

Charlie never remembers to multitask asteroids

[@k9blazesensation]

That’s crazy, even the DARK SIDE of the force wanted nothing to do with them lol

[@joshglover2370]

That's like how Edi Amin kicked Osama Bin Laden out if his country!

[@durzio9630]

This is why I'm glad it's not Canon anymore. It doesn't make sense. The dark side thrives on pain and suffering and hate. Why would it abandon them for exemplifying those values?

[@TheLunchTrey320]

@Stephen Jenkins Exactly. The light and dark are two sides of the same coin, that’s why the dark side wasn’t with them. It makes sense. To be honest, I wish the sequel trilogy involved them and the New Republic. But, oh well.

[@ArakkoaChronicles]

@@durzio9630 It was speculated it was less the Force abandoning them, and more them cutting themselves off from the Force by some of their genetic engineering.

[@Bludvane_77]

Durzio - The Vong couldn’t use the force in general because they were cut off from the force

[@zbynekkowalski2202]

Droid attack on Vongs doesn't concern me, but what about the droid attack on Wookies?

[@AlphaQHard]

This joke needs to die. Like the wookies after the droid attack

[@jacobfaro794]

I DONT REMEMBER ASKING YOU A DAMN THING. -samuel Jackson. Like only if you get the reference.

[@leftfootfirstpolitics]

You're right, it's a system we can't afford to lose.

[@supremeleadergnkdroid3202]

Sean Donoghue I conquer, master Kenobi should go

[@pookypoo1169]

Go to the wookies I will!

[@starsilverinfinity]

Star Wars Galaxy: Why cant you be normal Vong: *_distorted screaming_*

[@a.m.9993]

StarSilverInfinity LMBO 💀

[@wiwaxiasilver827]

@A. M. - Laughing your bones off? 😃

[@a.m.9993]

Wiwaxia Silver Good one.

[@fumewahfter]

Starwars can be really scary, Vader coming through your door with a laser sword and telekenisis is one thing but imagine being in a bathroom with a couple vong between you in the door.

[@DimoB8]

Everyone: The Vong are the most powerful threat Eck: There is another

[@Jedi_Spartan]

The unknown always holds the greatest threats.

[@Reclusiarch_jakal]

aboloth id presume?

[@ThatDragonGuy]

The Tyranids.

[@theghostanihalater9391]

@@ThatDragonGuy GeNe StEALerS

[@scottmurphy4946]

@@theghostanihalater9391 noo not my pants

[@timothyd4]

They killed trillions of beings... And Chewbacca. lmao

[@jamesbenedict7516]

That is the version of "the dog died"

[@hiboomer1191]

But it's so true😥

[@dt2419]

Does that still stand with Disney?

[@hiboomer1191]

@@dt2419 no disney is soft cucks who hates the fans except for the children

[@fraqtuality1411]

NOT CHEWWIE REEEEEEEE

[@bumblyjack]

The Yuuzhan Vong name reminds me of the "Yuezhi" and "Xiongnu"... northern steppe tribes that repeatedly raided and destabilized China during the Bronze and Iron Ages. This kept the country fractured, because whenever one group became powerful enough to potentially rule all of China, its rivals simply allied themselves with the steppe tribes. Finally, Emperor Wu of Han went all-in on a campaign against the Xiongnu in the 2nd century BC, defeating them once and for all. This united China in the short term, led to some more fracturing as the empire had overstretched itself, but eventually paved the way to a China that could be united long term.

[@nikhilsilva5244]

Underrated comment. Sounds like it

[@lukitommele3798]

And then Winnie the Pooh started ruling China and a guy ate a bat

[@NiquelBones]

@@lukitommele3798 and thats how the pandemic started, with chewbacca as the patient number 0

[@CataciousAmogusevic]

And then their descendants fucked China over and then repeat.

[@tacticalbondsh]

@@CataciousAmogusevic China can suck my Yuuzhan Dong

[@leviwarren6222]

Theory: what if the Vong came from a Galaxy far far away a long time ago and that's the reason we haven't found life in our galaxy?

[@BrickedUpp]

We are the Vong after fighting the AI uprising and getting nuked. Hence the deformities much like Fallout’s ghouls lol. We had to travel far far away

[@samgross7352]

Dudes look like the Gith. But yeah, I could see it

[@leviwarren6222]

I'm sticking with it. We are the Vong's dead galaxy, change my mind.

[@samgross7352]

@@leviwarren6222 I mean, I'm not nay saying it. I was making a reference is all, I said I could see it. Would explain how all the other planets around us seem dead and incapable of sustaining life yet some planets like Mars seem to have once been capable of it.

[@leviwarren6222]

@@samgross7352 I know it, I'm just more convinced the more I think about it.

[@emilturangi7145]

Sith and Jedi orders: *kill each other, and sometimes made genocide to each others* Force: -"that's okey." Yuuzhan vongs: *start killing each other* Force: *disconect from the server*

[@DemonMaluMintus]

I mean sith and jedi's conflict never came to a degree where it killed the WHOLE FREAKING GALAXY X'D

[@emilturangi7145]

@@DemonMaluMintus But with more numbers, cause the always killed half of the planet population, and this was their stategy for thausand years.

[@DemonMaluMintus]

@@emilturangi7145 Yes but remember sudden loss of lot of lifes can even cause a wound in the force ie nihilius. I imagine killing a whole GALAXY would fuck up the force.

[@emilturangi7145]

@@DemonMaluMintus Cluster fuck*

[@IceSick88]

BAHN HAMMER DAUHN!

[@perfectstranger1152]

Yuuzhan Vong: *exists Yuuzhan Vong: Oh boy, here I go killing again!

[@zillafire101]

"Do you believe in gravity?" ~The Vong

[@majorrris9299]

zillafire101 unexpected Jojo strikes again!

[@Obiwan7100]

join the flat death star society

[@far0145]

@@Obiwan7100 The Death Star was flat, change my miend

[@arnantphongsatha7906]

It all makes sense now. The Vong created the Stand virus!

[@starsilverinfinity]

@@arnantphongsatha7906 OH GOD OH NO -Who needs the force when you can just infinitely accelerate time?-

[@JaelaOrdo]

“We do not live side by side with impurity. Your civilization is built on abominations. Your galaxy is polluted. We have come to cleanse it, so that others besides our warrior caste may occupy it and live cleanly here. It is our destiny, according to Supreme Overlord Shimrra and the priests.”

[@gamerpro9809]

shimrra jamaane is a better supreme than supreme leader snoke

[@DanSlotea]

@@gamerpro9809 what is a snoke?

[@JaelaOrdo]

Palpatine McSenateFace 😂

[@gamerpro9809]

@@DanSlotea oh wait shimrra jamaane is a puppet to omini.

[@Donor-yp4mu]

Jaela Aurelius nice copy and paste

[@bthsr7113]

To be honest, before we saw any of the sequel trilogy, a part of me hoped the Vong saga would be our next antagonists. They were such a terrible threat, that Imerials, members of the New Republic and former Rebel Alliance, pirates, civilians, the fledgling Jedi order Luke was trying to build, and more were all forced to work together. A unifying threat, a scourge that was poised to overrun the galaxy we all have come to love. In a way, it would be a perfect end to the franchise. The galaxy finally breaking the cycle of regimes falling and terrible wars interrupted by peace with small skirmishes. Everyone fighting as one is also a great opportunity for symbolically bringing balance, with Sith and Jedi, Empire and Republic, Criminals and Lawful society, all working together to save everyone. Disclaimer: I love seeing the whole cast standing against a unifying threat in general.

[@ramonpizarro]

Instead we got the new trilogy. Truly the darkest timeline

[@bthsr7113]

@@ramonpizarro There are good parts, and I feel it is faithful to what the original trilogy was, good and bad, but I feel like audiences wanted to see it grow up more and had so much of their idea shaped by legends. Considering how audiences are more analytical, passionate, and analytical than during the original trilogy's days, I think more care needed to be put into the writing, especially the tactics. Before anyone says anything about them, the female characters getting center stage isn't the problem. I'm aiming this at the open misogynists and the ones who use other critiques as cover. The highest ranked survivors of Resistance being women isn't a problem. The main character, Luke's successor, being a woman isn't a problem.

[@bthsr7113]

@Arkady Well not all of legends, but there where some good bits, and some of them have been canonized, like Thrawn and the TIE defender.

[@silentdrew7636]

That would be a terrible end, it's an invading group of aliens that have nothing to do with the first two trilogies, and as such don't follow narratively.

[@silentdrew7636]

@Palpatine McSenateFace cohesion and character focus, mainly.

[@admiralinvertebrate5649]

The Yuuzhan Vong are known to be responsible for the complete extinction of a number of species in the Star Wars galaxy, most notably the rabbit like Gerb and the serpentine Slith, both native to Yavin 13. When the Yuuzhan Vong attacked the entire Yavin system, both the Gerb and the Slith were completely wiped out. A bit disturbing if you ask me.

[@Endgame707]

Yep they are super evil and genocidal so are gnomes tho Gnomes have killed millions possibly billions especially the ocroman empire the ocroman empire was a gnome empire in the Planet Gnomia they caused 950 million deaths throughout the galaxy.

[@Melody_Raventress]

Hahahaha!!!, if you say so mate. That's one part of Star Wars I won't miss. Good on the Vong.

[@coltonbarnett4951]

Imagine.... a Star Wars horror story where a bad hyperspace jump put a crew into vong territory!

[@johnwayne9745]

Really cool

[@Bookworm374]

@Matt DeMouy we know but it would be cool though

[@josesanchezrodriguez1783]

@Matt DeMouyMaybe not Vong territory but a scout fleet may be possible. After all the bargain hunter ended up in Chiss territory after a desperate hyper jump and the Chiss themselves destroyed a Vong scout fleet.

[@Furkward]

@Matt DeMouy why

[@Stryker98]

There was actually supposed to be a Clone Wars X-Files style arc of investigation of Jedi that went missing eventually leading to a Vong scout ship. If Disney didn't interfere, the Clone Wars S7 would have effectively canonized other aspects from legends including Darth Revan.

[@shogun2215]

"I almost guarantee there's an upload you've missed" Me, resubscribing after a year : "Yeah, see about that..."

[@justcallmeSheriff]

Hmmm. Puts Lando in the background when talking about the huge droid wars in the Yuuzhan Vong galaxy... I know enough obscure lore to know where this is going.

[@joshuafogg6600]

*_*Terminators going Yee-Haw*_*

[@KamilMuzyka]

I recall there was a Moravecesque starfish bushrobot

[@gokublack8342]

Canderous/Mandalore tells Revan that they found a probe that appeared at first to be an asteroid but suddenly flew off when they got close they tried to pursue but it was too fast and went beyond the border of the galaxy and they decided to stop pursuing

[@rebelappliance771]

One time I was playing Star Wars Battlefront and I saw someone with the excellent Star Wars gamer tag of: Yuuzan Bong.

[@Mike-8404]

The best part is how the Emperor forsaw the arrival of the Vong and, iirc, is why he initiated his take over of the Galaxe. Believing a strong, centralized, professional military was the best bet at stopping the Vong. It was the Chiss who first reported the Vong to Palpatine and it was because of this that he was introduced to Thrawn. If memory serves me right, this info comes from Outbound Flight. That little addition to his character took him from some power crazed lunatic and made him a Thanos level villain, someone believing only they had the vision to save the galaxy from a doomsday threat

[@psyco829]

Somewhat true, except for the "why he initiated his take over of the Galaxy." He took over the galaxy because he wanted to, not to be some savior to the people of the galaxy. He was just also prepared to fight the Vong when they invaded.

[@bobafett4457]

​@@psyco829facts, he learned about the vong while his plan was already in motion

[@lamarravery4094]

Maybe he constructed the death star to use against the Vong, but the rebels destroyed it, lol.

[@mattwoodard2535]

The Vong: "We are unmatched masters of biotechnology!"The Tyranids: uproarious laughter.

[@TactWendigo]

The comment I was hoping for.

[@exurgemars]

Yuuzhan Vong are discount Tyranids lol

[@blakecaliper5406]

I knew this comment would be here 😂

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

I am not to familiar with the tyranids but i have seen pictures of them.

[@connormcgehee9349]

40k fans are like tyranids. no one but themselves like them and they should all be burned in fire

[@arandomsquidward7761]

If the warships are living, that means they were once babies, in order to get a baby you need to procreate, so I ask this. What if they mated during the journey?

[@lucillefrancois150]

Hot

[@DarthMatusHolocron]

You don't need to procreate to make a baby. See any number of artificially fertilized people walking around. It's Star Wars. They probably have some sort of artificial womb, and they likely have control over the entire process at the genetic level. We even kind of see them experiment with this on Darth Krayt

[@lordnorj]

The Worldships are actually several different, symbiotically linked organisms fused together.

[@Willpower-74205]

They'd call it reproductive docking maneuvers. The other ships would have to avert their visual sensors for the sake of privacy. The Yuuzhan Vong don't seem like the kind of people that throw baby showers, though. Finding food for the little guy in an empty interstellar void after being weaned from its mother would be hell as well. At least they didn't have to worry about diaper changing, though! 😁

[@derpimusmaximus8815]

@@Willpower-74205 They seem exactly like the sort of people who would throw baby showers. I bet they pull gender reveal stunts, too, the bunch of wankers.

[@cookedewok8675]

They didn't become as "insane" so to speak because of the robot invading species. When they were stripped of their force connection they lost their minds due to part of their mind technically being stripped away. This happened to their whole species which lead them to go on a genocidal campaign across the Galaxy. I know this video is old and no one will see but just thought I would say this

[@JewishMemeMan]

Okay, so what if we just had an army of droidekas go up against the Vong

[@blackshogun272]

Strider 1 “Trigger” I'll do you a better one. An army of Droid Commandos and Magnaguard...

[@wolfgangervin2582]

@Strider 1 "Trigger" Plot twist: the Droidekas are given crazy upgrades by a group of mysterious scientists from parts unknown. Hm, I wonder what faraway land they could possibly be fro- Belka. It's Belka. Now all the Droidekas look like they have ADF cockpits for heads because the damn Belkans got bored with starting wars on Strangereal and decided to invent portals to other IPs and start causing mischief everywhere.

[@robertagu5533]

Well.. seeing how discount, in universe, Terminators basically singlehandely kicked a whole force of powerful vong warrior's asses.. an there was only a few of them fighting as a unit.. a whole army waging a no holds barred battle under orders from the Republic to subdue, drive off or annihilate ALL Vong forces that wouldn't do the 1st two options.. the Vong wouldnt had much a chance

[@krishenjalali3266]

HK-series droids. "Excited Utterance: Master, do you mean that we would get to kill meatbags and destroy entire ships that are also meatbags? That would be most pleasing!"

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Even better GRIEVOUS

[@stinville]

Imagine how the sequels would have been if the Vong where the main villains instead of the first order. Probably would have been a better story then the Last Jedi and it would have brought something new in the star wars universe unlike the Force awakens.

[@grapeabbas7043]

That's my problem with the sequel trilogy.

[@derpimusmaximus8815]

Yes, because the Vong are really suited to a PG-13 rating.

[@someguy2393]

I'd prefer a much darker story to this "were all good and noble with no flaws" bullshit we've got now.

[@barryallen9466]

The Vong are OP. Wouldn't be a good movie, just a documentary of the Vong completely destroying everything and anyone

[@nickcher7071]

The whole tone of Vong story arc is totally different even from other Legends materials. Gore, mass-murder, genocide, religious sacrifice of living people, tortures... While that made it unique, and I personally greatly enjoyed this arc despite the flaws it had - its really, REALLY doubtful, such a thing could make it to the big screens even without Disney in charge. It's just totally not suited to "mass-entertainment" purpose of SW, as average people view this franchise... Still, could become a good spin-off TV-show

[@Crip99763]

I remember in Kotor 1 Canderous tells his story experience as a Mandalorian fighter that he got in contact as he describe them as the Yuzann Vongs so they are really old

[@ItsButterBean1020]

And supposedly they had scouts during the Clone Wars

[@pybro4755]

Im getting strange WAAAAGHHHHHHHHH energy levels from this

[@blackshogun272]

Owen Meloy let's be honest and just say that the Yuuzhan Vong and Orcs would rape the galaxy if the Empire of Man didn't help the galaxy 😂

[@theghostanihalater9391]

MOREEEEEEE DAAAAAKKKKKKKAAAAA

[@Deridus]

Shoot! Smash! Chop! Stomp! Blast 'em back to zog! *WAAAAAGH!!!*

[@supremeleadergnkdroid3202]

Wat is waaaaggghhhh. Where is that from?

[@nobleman9393]

@@supremeleadergnkdroid3202 No.

[@lilahdog568]

"So I'm kinda curious if besides for the chaserak and the vong, whether other species could have made their way there that we just don't realize are from another galaxy" Hey humanity. You wanna say something?

[@griffinkelly8694]

I haven’t read any of the comics or books featuring the Yuuzhan Vong, but it feels like the base story is “what if the Dune universe (Butlerian Jihad era) invaded the Star Wars universe?” Which is a pretty cool idea.

[@paradox_4094]

You can compare the Yuuzhan Vong cutting themselves off from the force to what the exile did in kotor 2. The massive death their war caused could have forced them to make a decision between life and the force. They obviously chose life and continued to fight for a new home.

[@Sigismund697]

Oh the classic "tactical moon drop" Perfect for the destruction of one's enemies and just being fancy

[@steelrexer1062]

Love the Vong in the thumbnail. Looks like he’s conducting a business proposition ‘I receive: your entire galaxy You receive: a very painful death’

[@nakenmil]

Yuuzhan Vong: completely different aliens from an entirely different Galaxy. Also Yuuzhan Vong: looks basically like humans.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Enthused Norseman yeah I was really disappointed there Like shit man make them look lovecraftian

[@crimsonkaiser3162]

It just proves that the human form is the superior. 🤷

[@nickmalachai2227]

@@crimsonkaiser3162 any joint specialist will tell you that is a bold-faced lie.

[@eccemono6534]

This was my main issue with ME: Andromeda Villains were human popcorn

[@White_Recluse]

What kinda humans you been hanging with?

[@davidcanizares4626]

Vongs: Invade galaxy Florida man: *don’t interrupt me*

[@luisdavila1236]

I'm not too sure if the Yuuzhan Vong War was truly the deadliest war in SW,I personally would have thought it to be the Cremlevian War, a war which destroyed practically all life in the Vong Galaxy, compared to the YV War, where just a 'great amount' of the galaxy was destroyed but still recovered.

[@DisturbedGeneration]

Vong: **destroys entire galaxy** The force: "dude wtf? YA KNOW WHAT NO. IM REVOKING YOUR ACCOUNT WITH THE FORCE"

[@Freethinker_94]

😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤

[@JanusMikaelos]

The Vong sound like what the Tyranids would turn into after eating all the Dark Eldar lol 😃

[@justinweber4977]

I've also seen "They worship pain" as a description of the Yuuzhan Vong, so... There's definitely some overlap.

[@stumpy1146]

Here is a thought, could an extremely sensitive Force user feel massive destruction in another galaxy? When Aldaran went up, Obi-wan seemed to feel it instantly, so is there a range? I mean, it's a REALLY damn big universe, we know for sure that galaxy wide war has happened in the 2 galaxies we know about. I would think it safe to assume it has in most galaxies in that universe.

[@gujwdhufjijjpo9740]

For all we know the force is only a thing in the Star Wars galaxy. Maybe something the Celestials created. Could be a good explanation of why we don’t experience it here on earth.

[@masterdeetectiv9520]

It only works if the victims had midiclorians

[@Matt-og5kd]

@@gujwdhufjijjpo9740 ??? no, the yuuzhan vong were STRIPPED of the force dude. it exists thrioughout the universe not just the star wars galaxy. The vong homeworld yuuzhan tar stripped them of the force because of the damage caused by the vong civil war

[@realitywins9020]

Obi-wan had a connection to Alderaan. He knew the planet, had friends and acquaintances there. I think that's why he felt its destruction. You wouldn't be able to have a functioning life if you felt the deaths of all strangers

[@mike_y0st]

Transformers: More than meets the Vong

[@supremeleadergnkdroid3202]

Mike Yost you got the touch, you got the power

[@superkamiguru6856]

@@supremeleadergnkdroid3202 After all is said and done You've always killed, never spared You're the Senate You've got the spins, you know Darth Vader You're nobody's fool You're at your best when you've got unlimited power You've Been put to the test, but it's never enough.

[@michaeldebidart]

Got damn Eck that turnaround time was insane we just voted! You’re a beast!

[@nobleman9393]

Suggestion: Droid Gunship(Star Wars) vs Phantom Gunboat(Halo)

[@wafflecopterwuz1058]

Which phantom? There are multiple variants.

[@user-zw7qc3kt5v]

Probably he/she is talking about Type-52 troop carrier - those are mostly known phantoms.

[@mackenziebeeney3764]

The idea of stripping a galaxy of resources is just insane to me, like literally, how even. I find it more likely they eradicated or destroyed most habitable worlds, considering their tech is biological and needs to grow. So the minerals are probably mostly there, it’s just there are few of any habitable planets now. Which would be interesting, if another extragalactic power then moved back in, or the solenoids did. All these resources but no life.

[@andrewbloom7694]

Yodas species I've always wondered about. There are so few shown, surely more of them would have made their way into broader civilization

[@adriancello7934]

#AskEck How does traffic work in cities like for example Coruscant or just in general the whole galaxy? Meaning any traffic lights, specific laws etc.

[@Darkpara1]

I mean we can't even manage single levels of traffic on earth right now, flying lanes would be truly terrifying.

[@chenstormstout9456]

I mean as you see in the prequels, there are lanes that people fly in. However there seems to be a lack of traffic signals and/or signs.

[@krim7]

R. A. Salvatore deserves a lot of credit for making Chewie's death heroic and bad ass.

[@vitorkennedy1862]

What happened with the Yuuzhan Vong Similar to what happened in the age of the old republic, the incessant war between Jedi and Sith was so destructive to the galaxy that its resources were brought to the brink of exhaustion. And in that same period worlds were devastated and populations reduced to the point of extinction, the technological advance itself suffered with many technologies being forgotten. It was a dark age that almost destroyed the Galaxy.

[@blackshogun272]

vitor kennedy are you speaking of the New Sith Wars era ? I'd love for that era to be expanded upon. Disney's NuCanon Sith Lord named Lord Momin would fit excellently in this era. It always perplexed me how they could make som actually good concepts and ideas for their NuCanon but couldn't just adapt the shit to the previous Expanded Universe 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@vitorkennedy1862]

@@blackshogun272 Yes, i am talking about the new sith wars era. But Lord Momin doesn't fit the context. The sith at that time even the jedi were warlords, not mere sociopaths although I do not doubt that there were sith sociopaths at that time. Why wouldn't it?

[@blackshogun272]

This era has some interesting lore to tell. We just need to dig (make) it up. But with the entire timeline being Non-Canon I don't see that happening ever. There's so many eras of the Legends galaxy that coulda been further explored and fleshed out. And most of them wouldn't even deal with Light and Dark Side or The Force in general...

[@landonoakley6753]

Fun fact: Originally the Vong were going to be dark side force users but George Lucas wanted a different concept, so they ended up being "stripped" of all connection to the force.

[@joshlobes3807]

Man I loved that entire series ....love the channel thanks 🙏 for the great work

[@IamaDinosaur]

Jyggalag: "Cute."

[@TheArklyte]

Funny thing is that Tyranids in 40k are partially inspired by Yuuzhan Vong(another part is bugs from Starship Troopers and so on) and this part also existed in old Tyranid lore - they ran for their life from something. Be it a demonic threat(which is unlikely with how they overshadow anything Chaos forces in the Milky Way can put on the field) or another AI civilization that had gone haywire into full blown grey goo scenario. The funniest thing is that there are mentions of human and eldar expeditions into another galaxies so the threat that caused Tyranids to go to Mily Way might be originating from here. Be it Men of Iron, some f//cked Old One experiment, another Eldar murder god or just an escaped C'Tan.

[@derpimusmaximus8815]

Not really. The 'Nids current setup was codified years before Vector Prime came out. I mean, the minis have changed, but not the essentials.

[@scottlloyd9762]

@@derpimusmaximus8815 Most of the nid info has been the same since their 3ed codex.

[@derpimusmaximus8815]

@@scottlloyd9762 The basics have been the same since Advanced Space Crusade mate.

[@Blutwind]

Vongs first appearence 1999 Nids first appearence 1987 clearly the nids have been influenced by the vong.. wait what?

[@jackrogers5712]

This isn't true. The Tyranids have never been outright stated to be running from anything. That line that gets endlessly repeated was a throwaway bit of speculation on the part of one individual... who was guessing at the origin of the Tyranids. They are not, and have never been proven to have been running from anything. Please let this myth die.

[@howardlanus8467]

Given the Earth has been through some intense mass extinctions, including the Great Dying where about 90% of all life on Earth was wiped out, I think eventually over millions of years the Yuuzhan Vong galaxy will recover, but it would be very different from what they once knew. The sentient species that were exterminated will never return and the ecosystems will be very, very different.

[@randallpetroelje3913]

You got the coolest dog-and I gotta give you total props. My respect, that you went to the novels & dark horse comics. Thanks again for your show

[@MrChupacabra555]

As much as I love the Yuzzahn Vong (and the fact that they remind me of some of my favorite D&D adversaries ^_^), I find it hard to wrap my head around the fact that they essentially destroyed their Entire Galaxy, or at least the ability of planets within it to support life. Not that it hasn't happened in Sci-Fi before, but you are talking about a Halo/Flood level threat in order to endanger the entire galaxy (Didn't you do a Vong vs Flood video before? I have to check ^_^)

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

Well, it is speculated that it was after thousands of years of constant non-stop interstellar warfare that Vong galaxy ran out of habitable planets and resources. Seeing how destructive the Vong waged war it is possible.

[@TechnoMinarchist]

It's simple. Imagine the Yuzzahn Vong war, but it lasts for several thousand years.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Which D&D adversaries?

[@NotHere12345]

Ever heard of Warhammer 40k? I’m imagining just unthinkable size fleets, super weapons and length of was. It hard to think of this scale but think Warhammer 40k size shit lol

[@lordinvictus793]

It wasn't just the Vong but the war between the droids, the vong conquest of other species the vong driving out the droids and the Vong Civil War(the cremlevian war). Four distinct phases or four conflicts which were waged over the course of thousands of years near continuously.

[@MarvellousMorbing]

The Yaazhong Vong would’ve been million times better antagonists in the new sequel trilogy of SW. I would love to see the Yaazhong Vong used in a SW video game one day.

[@DanSlotea]

Y u u z h a n

[@blackshogun272]

Dan Slotea he tried. I give him points for actually remembering what they are and that they existed... *Angrily looks at picture of Kathleen Kennedy*

[@goodmind4940]

@@blackshogun272 we don't have source material

[@blackshogun272]

@@goodmind4940 Me: *Reads comment calmly* Also Me: *Rages and burns picture of KK in fireplace*

[@timbash5470]

Since the yu zhang vong post their connection to the force because of their home planet getting destroy does that mean the hutts lost connection to the force too since their home world was destroyed and they had to find a new one

[@Burning-Twilight]

In legends there was at least one known Hutt who was force sensitive.

[@silentdrew7636]

Ask Leia about that one.

[@AJadedLizard]

The Vong lost the Force as a punishment for destroying their own galaxy; as bad as the Hutts were they never reached that level of infamy.

[@Xo-3130]

Their homeworld was alive and force sensitive. The Yong had a force connection to it at the cellular level. Destroying it was effectively destroying part of themselves.

[@TheHonoredMadman]

Going back thru the back catalog. You are truly a knowledgeable fellow and a man of culture

[@ankhmorpok1497]

I really liked the introduction of the Vong, their truely alien mindset, religion, bio organic devices, the scale of their invasion of the galaxy and nihilistic tactics. Very realistic when we see real world religious fanaticism. One small gripe I always had with the Galactic civil war was that while the Empire was portrayed easily for its monolithic military might eg. Over 25,000 star destroyers alone in the fleet, the rebels were always unrealistically small in number and lacking in capital ship fleets. Though they made up for it with a superior starfighter corps.

[@jeffumbach]

Didn't even Luke at one point wish they had kept a few of the Empire's super weapons around as they would have come in damn useful when the Vong invaded?

[@madara4447]

The Vong vs the Tyranids

[@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542]

Tyranids will definetly win

[@oinkleberry]

@@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542 Stop

[@Trazyn_the_Infinite_40K]

VONG vs Dark Eldar.

[@realhunterivie7711]

Why doesn’t the empire use battle droids?

[@liaml.e.5964]

I love the recounting of Canderus Ordo's encounter with a (potential) York-et at the edge of the Galaxy. It adds a bit of mystery and foreshadowing to the Yuuzhan Vong's arrival thousands of years before the war.

[@thorshammer7883]

#AskEck *Attempt 657* Do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man Pre-Horus Heresy.

[@LupisRex]

Fore runners win that one. (With halo rings) Lose without. (Eventually they would just lose to attrition) I think precursors vs golden age humanity would be cool

[@josephn8325]

I don’t know much about either faction.... But don’t the IOM have near antimatter yield weapons and a fortress with a black hole cannon? I’d take the faction with the black hole cannon and millions of ships....

[@LupisRex]

@@josephn8325 golden age humanity had weapons that could transport matter a few miliseconds into the past. And overlay the atoms in the same position as the previous version of the shit. Essentially causing every atom to release its energy at once... so *boom*

[@thorshammer7883]

@@josephn8325 The Forerunners have more advanced ships that are not only bigger like the Forerunner Fortress-class Dreadnought a 100km length ship but their number are more numerous at the prime of the Forerunner military they had millions of ships and their population was in the high quadrillions having over 3 million planets and thousands of artificially created megastructures that were much much bigger then Earth and acted as population centers. And Forerunner armor amd shields were so durable and advance that the Didact's ship Mantle's Approach received very little damage while being receiving constant barrages of attacks from the UNSC Infinity's mac guns, a few other UNSC marathon class vessals, and the entirety of the UNSC ODP Earth defenses all of which had Forerunner enhancements which all together would of been dozens of teratons of force and the Mantle Approach's shields shrug them off like they were nothing. And when Master Chief was able to deactivate only a small portions of the shield leaving a tiny area exposed the Infinity's mac guns which would have had a yield of atleast 100 gigatons of force only made a small hole in the hull of Mantle Approach a bit smaller then the spacecraft Master Chief was using. And don't forget remember the Forerunner Fortress-class Dreadnought mentioned? They had over a hundred thousand of them. And during the Forerunner-Flood war the Forerunners had destroyed hundreds of thousands of their planets and population centers trying to stop the Flood outbreak and they even resulted to wiping out entire star systems from the face of the galaxy.

[@kerbodynamicx472]

Joseph N Not millions but trillions... that is the scale of a galactic K3 civilization.

[@sadisticwhistle6781]

Change my mind,Yoda's species is from another galaxy.

[@hydrogenone6866]

Gravity the ultimate weapon.

[@brianshindler4162]

I really like all your stuff man very informing cool and interesting to learn about the lore and also entertaining thank you for the work your doing on here and shereing that with fans like me.

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

Imagine if they brought the vong back, but it was the reason the old republic and sith empire collapsed? a piece of forgotten history. just imagine how intense that’d be in canon, especially in an era when technology isn’t as advanced, and jedi and sith happen to be a massive enemy. Just I shine the battlefields, filled with jedi and sith fighting the vong, and starships fighting giant space squids (you know what I mean) man I just want them back in some form.

[@thanewage403]

When Maul kills the Vong In ‘Lockdown’, epic...

[@obi-wankenobi5754]

The Vong are just evolved humans (from earth) that traveled back in time to the Star Wars galaxy after we destroyed our galaxy.

[@Trazyn_the_Infinite_40K]

Nah, they're Dark Eldar.

[@justaguywhocomments4795]

@@thehelmsdepot Take a seat young Skywalker.

[@sunkim1840]

hey i just voted and here it is! yuzhan vong!

[@jakefoley9539]

You have no idea how much I wanted you to make a video about this. Thanks Eck.

[@Starbug360]

Everybody's dead, Dave

[@jomysg1536]

Times like these that I wish Sidious was still alive, I feel like he might have been the only one who could truly have fought against these invaders with his own empire.

[@Exaris79]

Yuuzhantar, Zenoma Sekot and other emerging sentient planets in the Vong galaxy are probably a planetary sized fungus. The entire planet is covered with mycelium that's Force sensitive. The other natural lifeforms that lived on its surface contributed to develop the emerging cohesive intelligence. So when the Vong's homeworld died, it sent a seed out to another galaxy and grew on a planet in the Corusca galaxy becoming Zenoma Sekot.

[@MrTwi11y]

These videos are amazing! I hope you make some more about the Yuuzhan Vong

[@jakobyarns4369]

A movie series about this war would’ve been way better than what Disney did literally rewriting the originals but worse.

[@Trestolfo]

I never read any of the vong books, but I always figured that it was a case of the force not existing in their galaxy. I thought since, canonically, the medichlorians are microorganisms, maybe they just never evolved in that galaxy, and that would explain why there is no force in our galaxy (since, ya know, it’s implied that we exist in the same universe as Star Wars)

[@goodmind4940]

But in TCW they wanted to make them alive in the Force which would kinda defeat their purpose

[@Jupiter__001_]

But the midichlorians are not the source of The Force, just a conduit.

[@superkamiguru6856]

Correct me if I'm wrong but midichlorians work like Mana, they help you tap into the magic (force) around you.

[@robmarino314]

The Star Wars "Vong Invasion" is too epic for Disney to write into new screenplays.

[@LupisRex]

You should do a star wars empire comparison. Basically compare empires throughout starwars history like the sith, the hutts, etc. And see which was structured better, which lasted longer, the number of systems they contained

[@blackshogun272]

LupisRex The Galactic Republic during its Pius Dea phase was basically a theocratic empire with an expensive face mask of democracy on... But as for an empire comparison video, hell yeah ! Honestly believe that The Eternal Empire would've held the galaxy by the balls had it not fucking fell to Valkorian's overconfidence and "damaged" children...

[@MagikarpUsedOmnisplash]

They look like Vorcha from Mass Effect. I love it. I like the idea of having SW galaxy attacked

[@macwade2755]

I hope that the Yuuzhan Vong become Canon again!

[@Endgame707]

Awesome Video Bro 👍

[@zacmccollum7144]

Thanks for this. I haven't gotten into this series yet, I started vector prime but I felt like I was skipping a whole bunch of content that would only make the series better, so I stopped and went back to an earlier series. I'm just gonna piddle around until I'm satisfied that I can't get anymore quality before new Jedi order lol. It saddens me that chewy dies though... I wish I hadn't already heard about that. Oh well

[@samvimes9510]

I wish the Yuuzhan Vong were still canon. Woulda been cool to have a movie trilogy about them.

[@justaguywhocomments4795]

They are but they have a new name but either way Legends > Disney Canon

[@lightspeedvictory]

Can Force Storms be used to allow one to travel from one planet to another as a form of teleportation or “Stargate”? In other words, can it be used for basic travel or is it too unstable and could disrupt the atmosphere of the planets involved? #askeck Video suggestion/request: X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (Legends) A thorough analysis/breakdown/explanation of post-Endor Tie models

[@ujang3288]

Me watching this with cc : This “you John Vaughn” must be terrifying even to the Jedi

[@LiliumCruorem]

Praying that one day Swotor does a Vong expack. Would be so cool and they have the Orbalisk armor... which is made of Yuuzhan Vong beetles sooooo it could be real lol.

[@paulderosa3065]

This should have been the subject of the sequel trilogy. I liked the force awakens a lot. The Last Jedi was disjointed but I didn’t hate it. This however, the Yuuzhan Vong were just a missed opportunity for a new set of movies.

[@silentdrew7636]

The problem with them is that they don't follow naturally from the first two trilogies.

[@Dragonwolfworm]

The Yuuzhan Vong would have been WAY better villains for the new trilogy than we got. Such a shame.

[@narej3059]

I have been searching info about this a couple of hours ago, and now i saw u r video 0_0

[@ixon4330]

I like your channel and your videos but what my family most enjoy is your signature ending video part where the dog bid with the music always get my kids and I to a good laugh, at least a good smile! So thanks also for that!

[@xrmatt1010]

The war between the new republic and the vong would’ve made great material for the new trilogy. Still don’t understand why they didn’t do that.

[@nickmalachai2227]

Anyone in authority to do that was really inclined to not include the EU, from Lucas to copyright-hoarding Disney executives. Also, the text crawl needed to explain how they got to the beginning of the movie would have been a whole Trilogy in and of itself.

[@LordPadriac]

It may yet happen. Darth Mouse made a big spectacle of shitcanning all canon from the expanded universe but they've already used some bits of it. Copyright is not an issue. They bought all of the rights Lucas had which means they inherited the right to use any expanded universe plots, tech, vehicles, races, characters, etc in future official releases. What they didn't want was to be hidebound to stick to storylines that might not be very good. Let's be honest here - some the expanded universe was just shit. Not necessarily the ideas but not all writers, novels and games are written equal and not everyone that calls themselves an author should be allowed to publish. The Vong are a huge fan favorite so I'm sure at some point they'll show up in a movie or Disney+ series. From Darth Mouse's perspective they would represent a huge toy sale boon as there is nothing currently in any of the Star Wars toylines similar to them. Darth Mouse made a point of stating that he wanted to finish the Skywalker story first, which was the last trilogy was supposed to be about anyway. They kind of screwed the pooch with the hyper quick way they introduced the new characters as the new main characters but maybe on their own as the central characters in a new galaxy wide conflict without the constant civil war aspect of the first nine films they could grow into their own place in Star Wars. I think the Vong will be there just not until the Skywalker story is finished.

[@Ioo-nd6hf]

Disney seems to not want to pay Lucas *anything* in royalties from old characters so they killing them off in the most cheapest, most insulting way.

[@SultanFilm]

@@LordPadriac it's hard to say if the Vong were fan favorites. From my experience most didn't like it at the time. The vong in theory I think people like but that series was hit and miss.

[@blackshogun272]

Cornwalum it challenges the belief of many fans on what The Force can and cannot do and so a bunch got pissed while others mocked the Vong for trying to be Orcs or Space Barbarians. A book called Supernatural Encounters was published on StarWarsTimeline.com and it explains the very early history of the universe and galaxy. Several bothersome questions are answered that have long left invested fans perplexed. It's a fun but at sometimes difficult read. I highly recommend you check it out. You'll never look at the Star Wars universe the same ever again...

[@MrDrnoodles]

Is it just me or is the impracticality of the vongs weapons and armor really annoying?

[@causticchan4617]

I mean their living staffs could block lightsabers and blasters so could their armor Not really impractical if u ask me

[@MrDrnoodles]

@@causticchan4617 okay true. What I really meant is they look stupid as hell

[@dantheories7276]

I'd love to see a scenario set in the far future, where travel between galaxies is a thing, and to see how the force manifests itself in other galaxies.

[@sneedmando186]

Good, good, I’ve been waiting for this

[@totallynormalcooking9231]

So the used organic technology... Does that mean that their ships were powered by lemon batteries?

[@diegoandrade467]

I imagine the reason the Yuuzahn Vong didn’t get a movie, is because the casual viewer will see this as a threat that’s too big, black holes and big ass warships. How could they have won in a trilogy.

[@silentdrew7636]

No, it's because this doesn't follow naturally from the first two trilogies.

[@diegoandrade467]

Gabriel Angelo The difference between the OT and the Vong is that the Empire was fighting against a dude who could move shit with his mind and other small rebellions. The Vong had technology that was far different from what the galaxy was used to fighting, not to mention the fact that it was the whole species.

[@derek96720]

The problem with the expanded universe story arcs is that most of them are too long for movies, even trilogies. The Yuuzhan Vong War arc would take a several-season series akin to The Mandalorian, but with a much bigger budget to deal with all the prosthetics, sets, costumes, and space battles.

[@lovejiji]

Yes

[@moredetonation3755]

I will never get tired of that Corgi outro.

[@nickstgelais3147]

The vong are like if the locusts from gears of war became space fairing

[@mitchelkvedar674]

Wait- if the arent alien what are they I've never played

[@DarkApostleNoek]

The losing connection with the force reminds me of the Rakata, makes you wonder balance between is needed if either Light or Dark fully wins it is no longer needed. Star Wars vs Halo. Havok Squad during the Cold War (meteor is Commando) vs Fire team Majestic.

[@TechnoMinarchist]

There is no Light or Dark Side. There is merely the Forces will, and those who pervert the Force by ignoring its will and using their own will instead. The balance is not a balance between light and dark, it is a balance in the same way that a healthy body is balanced. That means no one perverting the Force is what balance is.

[@TechnoMinarchist]

This is called Potentium.

[@TechnoMinarchist]

When one perverts the Forces will, they become like a tumour in a brain where they were once just a neuron.

[@silentdrew7636]

@@TechnoMinarchist this, though you're kind of ignoring the fact the what you're describing as "perverting the force" is what is traditionally called "the dark side"

[@justinweber4977]

I always liked the Vong, Edge Lords that they are. Something about them entertains me greatly.