The Dark Secret of Kaminoan Cloning?

[@tuxos1159]

Funnily enough, Kaminoans look a lot like our "grey aliens" adn our alien culture is heavily dominated by abduction stories, the kaminoans could have abducted unfortunate creatures to experiment on them in the past. Their architecure also looks suspiscously like saucers.

[@gary24fan]

I like this connection to our "real world" alien stories.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Damn, they abduct some rare species or the occasional wanderer and then fly off and experiment with these poor souls 😢

[@Vanklomp1]

I feel like this matches up even more considering the dart in ep2 came from kamino but why would these perfectly friendly cloners need darts to admin toxins or say sleeping agents

[@this_is_gold_leader2229]

That’s a really good point!

[@patrickramseyart]

Dank farrik, you're right

[@chetsevern9167]

I feel the dart was an idea that Jango had. Think about it, he had scientific knowledge especially regarding creatures with very toxic mannerisms. The bugs he had Zam use to kill Padmé, he clearly knew how deadly they were. On top of that he told Zam to be very careful. Why would a Bounty Hunter, especially one of Jango’s caliber be concerned enough to heed such caution only to kill her later. I think he had a familiarity with poisons and when acquiring access to those Darts he had the Kaminoans help him understand how to insert the many varieties of poisons into the darts and then accommodate the darts into his weaponry. With his intellectual curiosity, I think this was why the Kaminoans considered him as their perfect specimen.

[@illyth63]

It makes sense that the Kaminoans would kidnap and experiment on other species. They always seemed to resemble the "Greys" which are so prevalent in alien abduction narratives. Maybe the Asogians aren't the only Spielberg aliens to show up in Star Wars?

[@ajzeg01]

The Kaminoans are based on the Close Encounters aliens.

[@twstf8905]

The Bora Vio episode was, by _far_ the most intriguing. 👍 What an awesome first season! (Hard to believe it's over already. 😥)

[@toobeast5485]

I agree, I hope we revisit it one day

[@bradleymarks]

Much like Jurassic Park ... Boreveo is Kamino's ..site B where the actual test cloning took place...

[@rajingcajun488]

Wasn’t another part of legends that the Kaminoans basically did super-eugenics on their society that helped contribute to their detached views on the clones they created and their status as living beings?

[@cammando2057]

Yep. It’s discussed in the Republic Commando books.

[@DaleESkywalker]

I think cloning is no secret. It may not be well-known, but not a secret. The secret only the Sith knew was essence transfer. It would be more likely they used clones or hired another species to build Tapoca City, Kamino, being a superior race and all...

[@nathanneil5138]

Your right about Tipoca City’s construction from a certain point of view according to a sourcebook it was actually said to be inspired by the shape of Wookiee architecture on Kashyyk as well as elements of Alderaanian architecture. Also the resources used to build Tipoca and other Kaminoan cities were imported from other worlds and the cities were built by construction droids

[@olioscar]

Hmmm… maybe there was even dark science and secrets only sith knew? Could be a cool way to tie in a cloning facility on exegol.

[@aidanrogers4438]

Abrams: ‘Goodness! Why didn’t I think of that?!’

[@EnigmaReed]

I'd still like to know about the other armies they created.

[@MickeyMouse-ef4ez]

Do a video about moral dilemas in star wars! Or which star wars lessons that would answer moral dilemmas. Like the trolly question and u end up in using the force to save both people. Or should yoda be punished for not doing anything during the Empire's reign over the Galaxy, especially when he became a force ghosts capable of interacting with the galaxy?

[@TheWuffball]

Much easier to research and clone species in the galaxy with a facility there than having to travel out of the galaxy back to Kamino.

[@DorsenFilm]

Taun we was just a messenger. They always kill the messenger. Then again, star wars does not care about war crimes.

[@kacperrembielinski-gaazka1981]

When you said „builder kaminoans” i imagined kaminoans with construction helmets.

[@jasonberning3230]

As a Stargate fan the first thing my mind went to was the Asgard from stargate, they were about the most advanced race we ran into that didnt want to kill us but there race was on the verge of extinction due to thousands of years of cloning there bodies and transferring consciousness to them and there genetic template being to degraded (copy of a copy problem). Maybe thats similar to what the Kaminoens were dealing with.

[@carterh8431]

I always thought one of the clone embryos looked suspiciously similar to a Sullustan.

[@PerovNigma]

Wasn't there also a lot of eugenics in Legends' Kaminoan history?

[@LordVader5738]

Something tells me they learned to clone just to make a bunch of builders to rebuild their planet. Then they used the cloning capabilities to make money. I remember someone in the book Catalyst suggested giving DNA to the Kaminoans so they design and make organisms that could work in space endlessly and build the Death Star. Why specifically say that? Have Kaminoans done this before? I think so.

[@TYRANTARES]

You mean a darker secret than the engineering of an army specifically designed for a religious genocide and dictatorship establishment plot? A darker secret? To kaminoan cloning?

[@ryankohnenkamp8946]

What if the "original" Kaminoans are long dead and these guys are just their creations?

[@acevedo_avocado]

Keep these uploads coming the content is better then ever! Malex y’all rock!

[@FireheartSamurai]

I’m curious to see the history of Bora Vio & why the Kaminioans abandoned it. Other than it’s purpose & if we’ll see it in future Star Wars content.

[@AdanrRobles]

That would be a great book series. The rise over the cloners how they came to the science and how the sith may have manipulated there whole rise.

[@k9vendettathewolfofmordor529]

So about them cloning themselves. Did they only make perfect clones like boba where they aged naturally or did they make imperfect ones like the rest if the jango clones?

[@lazyc0mmander277]

At least there certainly were mistake and differences being made during the creation process of each kaminoan clones.

[@-Maxi.exe03]

Doesn't really have anything to do with this video but for the next Q&A: Will we see Qui'ra in the book of Boba Fett? Now that we know she survived into the originals(which honestly surprised me) and she seems to have taken control of Crimson Dawn after Dryden's death and Maul's fall as a crime lord could she fit into the story of tBoBF ? If she appears could we also see Alden Ehrenreich reprise his role as Han Solo since we've seen Luke in the Mandalorian ?

[@CouncilCape897]

Depends on whether she survives the War of the Bounty Hunters crossover in the comics.

[@dtinagliastudios]

Lido! Woah-o-oooooooh!

[@MCLegoboy]

The embryos from the abandoned facility are terrifying, and what's worse is that almost every single one of them has at least one if not more visible fingernails growing out in odd places. That's just creepy... and I love it.

[@sleepingsnorlax9948]

Which one exactly ?

[@BadwickProductions]

The failed clone experiments are giving some resident evil vibes

[@gargudon8720]

The creature covered in green goo that lands on Fennec, reminded me a little of Howard The Alien... 👀

[@IlyaRhys]

I guess it will be like Starkiller. Like everybody can 2+2 and say it's Ilum. But it never was confirmed directly. So I think it will be this way on this topic. Like you can do 2+2, but they still will not confirm it. And it's kinda cool.

[@-Maxi.exe03]

Starkiller base was actually confirmed to be Illym in the tRoS visual dictionary.

[@TheJackishereagain]

Dark magic, cloning, secrets only the sith knew

[@silvernexoknight]

Awesome

[@PsychoStreak]

Well, it probably took centuries if not millenia to get good at cloning other species, plus we never see any young Kaminoans in canon (or Legends, but I could be mistaken), so it makes sense that they'd start with their own species first. They'd know exactly what the resulting clones should look and act like, and be able to quickly identify problem areas. On a galactic scale, there have to be thousands of species on the brink of extinction for various reasons, and they would make for willing customers. Since we've no idea how long they've been at it, it could go back as far as the Rakata; in their waning days they'd be quite desperate for a solution. Given their skill at producing soldiers, it would make a ton of sense for the Kaminoans not to centralize their operations, but rather have facilities spread far and wide in nondescript locales. There's no way the Clone Wars was the first time they'd come under attack. Also, keeping their more experimental and potentially dangerous-to-them projects off world makes sense too. Also, nosy prospective clients would see nothing on Kamino to indicate the best cloners around had failed. Equally useful if they were experimenting on other species without their knowledge. The depths of just how shady the Kaminoans were will likely remain a mystery, although I think it would be a fun novel or graphic novel, especially if it goes back to old or pre-republic days. Colonization before the hyperspace lanes were created and mapped would have taken longer than most species lived at light speed. Being able to transfer yourself to a clone body would get around that nicely.

[@lazyc0mmander277]

Bumping this because it's an great analysis of how to expand the story in further materials.

[@toobeast5485]

I like the idea that Kaminos are still isolationist, and colonised planets that were isolated as well

[@thisisdavid2]

excellent job! I don't think we saw or heard anything within the show that Bora Vio is entirely abandoned or is it....? SO MYSTERIOUS lol! :) and I think that "excellent but (definitely) sinister..." is a VERY apt way to describe the Kaminoans

[@chaosfire321]

Definitely think they were exploring a darker side of Kaminoan cloning, otherwise the concept art wouldn't be so...deformed. Making them the Star Wars equivalent of Greys would be amazing.

[@Fork1]

If you have seen Stargate Sg-1 and remind yourself of the Asgard technology, you might see some comparisons with the Keminoans. The Asgards cloned themselves to the degree they lost all type of gender and was a dying race. The Kaminoans maybe are in a similar state?

[@Kip450]

How much darker could the Kaminoans be than actually are? A batch of clone cadets with less than 20/20 vision disappeared in the dead of night, never to be heard from again; kidnapping travelers just seems par for the course for them.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Something that occurs to me that the ruins of an abandoned Kaminoan city would be a great place for some of the less scrupulous (like pirates or mercenaries or less monied people (like people from particularly hardscrabble planets) or heck, why not a population of a variety of people like we saw on The Colossus in Star Wars Resistance.

[@kevinyoung6082]

What are you up too Nana Fe & what are the Empire gunna get you too do. Season two of the Bad Batch is gunna be exciting & heaps of twists & turns especially with those young Clones who were taken away from Kamanio near the end of the first season. Gunna be great can’t wait.

[@chetsevern9167]

I think this analysis deserves more attention. I hope this leads to a potential plot development in Season 2 of The Bad Batch. It may be theoretical now but I really hope someone either from Lucasfilm or someone with personal ties to Filoni stumbles upon this video. This is not the end of the Kaminoans and I think we are looking at a super low key clue considering that the Imperial Scientists have made a subtle appearance in The Bad Batch.

[@isaacb725]

Love it, I could see that. You're the only SW channel that I've always agreed with the most

[@niccanavan1028]

Grim Alex! 😳 I love it!! 😂 some fun speculation!

[@markdupont9382]

Do you think Mt. Tantiss could be a third Kaminoan facility that the empire took over?

[@flamingbunnyrabbits]

That history of the kaminoans is the gold D&D DMs dream to come up with!

[@gezakiss2879]

I think most people love prequels because of these explaining videos

[@imperialshocker2182]

nice lore

[@stevensmith7791]

I love this! I hope you do more speculation videos down the road. These are fun.

[@Cybermeleon]

Seems to me like Filoni is resurrecting a bunch of Legends material

[@nickvinsable3798]

A Prelude to the Palpatine Clones & such…

[@BrentCubZeez]

This was already confirmed in canon prior to The Bad Batch.

[@lazyc0mmander277]

Wait where?

[@illypziz...6800]

That's the podium for you

[@Nomad-vaulter-HP2]

Kaminoians are creepy

[@001styracosaurus]

Secrets only the Sith knew...

[@Nomad-vaulter-HP2]

Kaminoians are weird

[@justinspeece1609]

I like the idea, I mean breeding slave armies is not a good thing to do and Nala Se, Lama Sue, and even kinda Tan Wee aren’t good people so I think it makes sense

[@lazyc0mmander277]

Doesn't it kinda makes a bad job to differentiate them as different individuals of a species though?

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Alex! 🤐

[@zen1647]

Fun video!

[@zepanda4843]

In my head canon Kamino is in an other small galaxy next to the Star Wars galaxy which I heard once somewhere. It might of been Legends info tho. And the Kaminion base is an outpost for travelers in the big galaxy but was abandoned due to isolationism.

[@DaleESkywalker]

Well, you do have to go through the Rishi Maze to get to it. I think that's still canon.

[@lazyc0mmander277]

Canonically I think the planet is technically outside the Star Wars galaxy at least.

[@zepanda4843]

@@lazyc0mmander277 thx

[@mohdimansaifullizan6193]

Choose your side Jedi or Sith

[@super-rb5xs]

Jedi

[@mohdimansaifullizan6193]

@@super-rb5xs Sith

[@Orbitalbomb]

i couldn’t select a more uninteresting topic

[@nilsf5302]

Could you please elaborate? I think it's very interesting since the entire cloning theme is an important part of Star Wars canon right now (Rise of Skywalker, Mandoand now Bad Batch)

[@xxxCrackerJack501xxx]

The existence of other cloning facilities gives me more hope for a rogue clone rebellion still being able to happen like in Battlefront 2 (2005)