The Dark Secret of the Jedi Order

Today we reveal the Jedi Order's hidden ancient secret, something so dark and terrible that few know the truth.
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[@jacke.4078]

IM TIRED OF THEM PUTTING MIDICHLORIANS IN THE WATER THAT TURN THE FRICKIN MYNOCKS FORCE SENSITIVE

[@asilturkklc171]

Underrated comment

[@JRGProjects]

The Fives Radio Show on the CloneWars Network. Buy your Force+ & other crappy supplements from the store.

[@attilathehun5067]

Then the mynocks will work with the dolphins to kill us all.

[@ratbat1072]

But I've been wondering, what are midichlorians?

[@jonathaniamartino5136]

What are the what ? No please don’t ask ! just forget about it ! it’s not interesting ! Really! just leave the little living microscopic life forms that allow the force to be used and are present in the blood of each force user alone ! Don’t find that the more you got the more power you can potentially wield in the force of your inclination , and they are not something everyone can carry ! Only the select few can be like a Skywalker ! Luke is nothing like you in that he is always above the plebs that surround him and he might be nice but between each other the Jedi know they are superior to the lesser invalid normal majority ! And never learn that you are a sub Jedi because these little bastards do horrible things to those not born into the club of microbe powered life forms if introduced into a non blessed normy ! It was just heart breaking just heart breaking when I learned the fact that not anyone could be trained with very hard grueling trials learn how to control this invisible force power field that is what connects everything and can equalize the field if you have the will and don’t quit . The jedi order could be your home as long as you worked and trained with all you had and never quit trying with s pure heart and mind to be your very best in all ways never a day in your life goes without you being open to grow in the learning process that anyone can use with compleat dedication to never just try to always do ! Lololol but that’s just bulkshit we learn in episode one “the creepy little force born brat “ “ this little force bastard who will grow up to scare said woman’s sexy legs wide”. The second episode is His creation of the easy suduction of the Stockholm syndrome suffering woman by creepy manbaby and general fuckhead douche nozzle ! The point of everything is that he later manages to knock the ball out of the proverbial park! He does this by taking this creepified broad and force beats her into “ loving him “ out of pure Stockholm fueled creepy ness ! What a story of love ! Even though later events are not good for him or her or anyone but emperor forsikinface! The fact stays the same bastards of these mitofuckedcrorigorms are not good husbands or lovers or anything except when you can catch em young then smugger then with your hand, ani the fuck would be dead if not for the ass hole “queef on-gin” and Obi wang ! Mike zero signing off with more accurate starwars history truth !

[@jacksonmacpherson6101]

The jedi are like bender in that one futurama episode: "They will accept our peaceful ways, BY FORCE"

[@Rob17Cotton]

jackson macpherson 😂😂😂😂

[@stephanrussell5302]

🤣🤣🤣

[@iretonlax0306]

Jedi: “Pray this way.” Sith: “Thanks but no.” Jedi: “DEUS VULT!”

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

That's not really why the Crusades happened though.

[@benjaminchartier6458]

The Jihads happened first,and "Pray our way or else" was first the Muslims line in dealing with Christians...... Christianity did become the law of the Roman empire, but I am pretty sure that people started losing their heads for Muhammad.

[@Attaxalotl]

**CRUSADE NOISES**

[@miloradowicz]

@@benjaminchartier6458 and before that Jesus was crucified for preaching One God.

[@weylin6]

Imagine the sheer hubris a director must have to continue on their course when both the fans of star wars and Mark Hamill himself tells them they're completely wrong about what Luke would do and yet carry on with it anyways and completely ruin his character

[@kevinkarnes4067]

Damn straight! ✌❤

[@NeumaghAnon]

Jedi: “Oh hey guys we are all peaceful and neutral :)” Sith: “Hey Jedi we have a different view of the force” Jedi: >:(

[@velkonemriam1935]

Insert Baldi's Basics angering face here 😂

[@pyeitme508]

Quite true, just like today's religious terrorists.

[@viscountsb7140]

Big mad

[@alantonix213]

Jedi: "WE MUST KILL THE SITHADELS! THE FORCE WILLS IT! FORCE VULT!! FORCE VULT!! FORCE VULT!!"

[@amandag.6186]

Also Jedi: YOU ARE HERETICS!

[@falkenvir]

1. Jedi Order Struck first, 2. Jedi Suppress Emotion/Feelings instead of learning to manage them, 3. Jedi Order took children from their parents and cutt off their relationship, 4. Jedi Order allowed itself to become tool for the Republic instead of being Neutral, 5. Jedi Order only deals with absolutes. Did I miss something else?

[@Skyhunter826]

Slightly friend, only sith deal in absolutes* which is a direct line from one of the movies, prequel I think

[@falkenvir]

Jedi Orders seems to forget about simple physics, when something is suppressed it increases the pressure...

[@valenrn8657]

Jedi Order's anti-family (taking children from their parents) is bad.

[@Talltrees84]

The Jedi failed to realize that organic flesh and blood organics can't be expected to behave like maintenance droids.

[@cmdrtianyilin8107]

Jedi order turned Anakin Skywalker into the Darth Vader.

[@cendresaphoenix1974]

:*yoda* has left the chat: :*obi wan* has left the chat: :*mace* has left the chat: :*anakin* has joined the chat:

[@grandmasteryoda8919]

Luke has Joined the Chat. The Senate has Left the Chat. Anakin (Formerly Vader) Has Left the chat.

[@YokaiX]

So perhaps Anakin wasn’t lost like Obi Wan said. “From my point of view the Jedi are evil!”

[@jimbotheassclown]

Will just ignore the killing children thing lol .

[@englishlady9797]

@@jimbotheassclown The Jedi literally did that as well though. They were not averse to murder either, nor putting like 12 year olds in active combat.

[@drunkgerman8909]

Generation tech is doing great great things for the empires propaganda machine we thank you

[@Scooby-Doo_Villain]

Admiral please keep an eye on those with any links, no matter how roundabout or minute, to the Skywalkers. Especially bodyguards. You'll thank me.

[@alanfriesen9837]

Sir, listen to this guy, I implore you.

[@darneillburgess3452]

I want my payment for the bounty you had me done. Don't think im on empire or rebels side. In jus doing a job.

[@hi-to6sk]

Ah my clone.... keep on haveing the rebels follow you around it lifts alot off my plate thank you.

[@drunkgerman8909]

@@hi-to6sk nah nah nah you're my clone

[@TheBelegur]

I always thought it was a mistake that the Jedi didn't free Anakin's mother from slavery, and Obi Wan should not have trained him.

[@AdultThirdCultureKid1971]

That explains why Anakin grew to resent the Jedi Order in Revenge of the Sith.

[@sixpaths_shane]

I honestly believe that Mace Windu should've been Anakin's master, because Mace would've taught Anakin about the Dark Side and how to draw from it

[@TheBelegur]

@@sixpaths_shane Anakin always had a master from slave to sith and he resented all of them. Perhaps Mace could have helped him overcome that.

[@sixpaths_shane]

@@TheBelegur Yea that's exactly what I'm thinking, and I frankly don't think that Order 66 would happen if Mace was Anakin's master, because Anakin would trust in Mace more

[@TheBelegur]

@@sixpaths_shane Sidious was both ambitious and a predator. I suspect he would have found another disciple and proceeded with his plan.

[@kamenriderblade2099]

I agree with the "Grey side" of the Force. Life needs a balance of Yin/Yang. Not everything in life can be simplified because not everything in life is simple. Complex matters requires time, understanding, and education to truly understand it. The world would be better if more of us were on the "Grey side" of the Force.

[@pyeitme508]

How about NO SIDES, also exterminate Midi-chorians is the only solution.

[@kamenriderblade2099]

Yeah, I prefer this vision of things, George Lucas' original vision is extremely simplisitic.

[@kamenriderblade2099]

Good Luck with that.

[@kamenriderblade2099]

I shall then =D

[@amandag.6186]

@@pyeitme508 exterminating medichlorians would kill like

[@RicardoRodriguezFL]

The reason why Skywalker was a broken, bitter Jedi has nothing to do with the knowledge in the books. Ryan Johnson is just an a-hole.

[@Vaille32]

Ruin Johnson is a soy boy.

[@oliverewarthopkins7818]

@@Vaille32 you are a copy and paste boy.

[@Vaille32]

@@oliverewarthopkins7818 quiet nerd before i crunch you

[@oliverewarthopkins7818]

@@Vaille32 the 80's called, it wants its insult back.

[@vadersgodchild1043]

Thank You. Put the blame where blame is DUE. THE JEDI COUNCIL AND HIS BITCH WIFE

[@TheMajorActual]

I think that's a hell of a lot more careful thought and consideration than Rian Johnson ever applied to Star Wars...Of course, GT is made up of actual SW fans, so it logically follows that they will be able to come up with a line of thought that actually respects Star Wars -- given what they are being forced to work with, that's an impressive feat.

[@mzk1489]

Also, they aren't Leftists, so they can think straight.

[@EmberAlberson]

Rian Johnson literally included the failing of the extremist Jedi Order as one of the reason Luke has exiled himself

[@davidminor4213]

I liked his message but hated that he used Luke to tell it.

[@davidminor4213]

@@EmberAlberson which makes no sense since Luke was in a perfect situation to fix it

[@00yiggdrasill00]

so im supposed to believe that Luke, who never lost faith in the good in his father even all he had done and after all he had seen in the rebellion and his endless travels, lost faith in his ways because the way it used to be done was wrong? tjats a suspension of disbelief i don't think i can make. he had every opportunity to set it right, and im supposed to believe he just ran away after all he had already learnt, seen and done..... nope, sorry. Luke isn't unbreakable but hes not the kind of man to stop once something can be done to make it better and his whole life shows that mentality baring ltj

[@marcbartuschka6372]

Well maybe after he had seen how his try to resurect the Jedi failed so badly again he grow frustrated. And when he than learned more about the truth, burrying himself in the endless story of hatred, rise and fall of the dark and the light side, he finally got to the conclusion that a) the ways of the Jedi was not only wrong but had their own downfall in their core values b) he had neither the strength nor the knowledge to start a new more balanced way c) had not the will to drive this endless story of battle between light and dark side to another chapter. Since what the people whould have WANT him to do would be to kill Snoke/Kylo (or train the people who will do that) - actions who (even if he would be sucessful) would only repeat the same mistake of all the thousands of years before. Just another chapter in an endless conflict, the try to exterminate those who follow another ideology because you hate them and they hate you. All he believed in, all Yoda and Obi told him was corrupted and wrong by their own rotten agenda of Jedi extremistic ideology. I think such thoughts could drive a man in a depression...

[@00yiggdrasill00]

@@marcbartuschka6372 ok i can understand him feeling he doesn't have the knowledge to change it and not wanting to contribute to the ongoing war. that would actually be very like the Luke ive come to know. it does raise the question of "if not him than who?" though because its not like there are really any others who did know as much as him... unless the force ghosts are going to explode onto the scene, which may happen.

[@masterexploder9668]

Not Luke. That's Jake Skywalker.

[@alanfriesen9837]

It's not unusual for people who have super strong convictions in their youth to grow jaded as they age. This is especially true when it becomes obvious that the vision you had for the future flutters away into the maelstrom of corruption, conflict and unintended consequences. I think for someone like Luke, a true believer in his cause and arguably the most powerful being in the galaxy, to fail to mold society to match his vision was probably incredibly traumatic.

[@blindeagleace3629]

I thought he did try. Didn’t he build a new Jedi order? Only to have it betrayed and destroyed.

[@rjonboy7608]

Your theory fits in with Lucas' original "samauri warrior journey" concept. The yin/yang principle is not a dichotomy like good/evil but rather two sides of the same energy: literally the giving and the recieving. To be alive is to take in and give out: stop one and life ends. You can't have one without the other. Life is made up of light and dark, order and chaos, and when you get too much of one life becomes unmanageable. Without darkness light becomes blinding and without light darkness also makes one blind. I thought that was why the Jedi order fell. They were blind to Palpatine and he was blind to Vader who threw him to his death. It's all from Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey.

[@rhyscallinan1948]

I actually agree. The Jedai attacked the pre-sith group out of fear, and when the pre-sith fought back the Jedai involved the newly formed Republic. I love the Jedi, but no one's perfect

[@themakuta2937]

I think your theory is solid just for one thing. Luke is not upset with the jedi teachings itself, he more or less angry with himself for over reacting and shame for it.

[@davidminor4213]

The Makuta I think it's more so he's just over it. LS wins. DS retreats, gets stronger, returns and wins. Then LS retreats etc etc etc. More or less. Would you fight in a neverending war once you realized it's never ending? However, as realistic as Luke's apathy is. NONE OF US WANTED TO SEE THAT! Episode VI was a happy ending. So much for that because VII, VIII, IX exist now. Gotta know when to end a story because ultimately everyone dies

[@JohnDoe-xx8yw]

@@davidminor4213That whole LS wins, DS becomes more powerful, comes back, and wins is an important part of the Star Wars universe. It's about balance, neither side can dominate for all too long, doing so pushes the force out of balance and must be corrected. It's a constant battle, and one that cannot be completely won. At least, that's how I've always interpreted it

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

Last time I was this early Padme wasn't trying to get with underaged boys

[@GenerationTech]

There really needs to be more awareness about stuff like this

[@WednesdayAddamsMW]

@@GenerationTech True.

[@azraelsmith9506]

Well, Padme was only 14 at the time herself.

[@warlock5718]

@@azraelsmith9506 and how old was anakin?

[@penguin6815]

@@warlock5718 anakin was 9

[@springtu1ip446]

Just saying almost every war in Star Wars is started by force users

[@cristian-ionutapostol8018]

_Kreia has joined the chat._

[@simonmariolle351]

I think you on to something, okay If you will name one major that wasn't started by force user's, I'm kinda of wonder if there's anything anit force user's hate group.

[@springtu1ip446]

@@simonmariolle351 the Mandalorians are it they kill Jedi’s and sith

[@MatthewBurns8]

I do love how its like "they decanonized the stuff that was too crazy...then they essentially canonized essence transfer in the last movie, Sith Sorcery in the Clone Wars, etc. Like if literally cheating death and long range torture doesnt hit the crazy meter, why are they like "oh the Ones are def not celestials"

[@Charlie94781]

The Galactic Empire brought stability and peace to the galaxy after the destructive clone wars but the rebels wrecked the universe and opened the door to the Yuuzhan Vong onslaught

[@davidminor4213]

charles Receski Exactly!

[@EmberAlberson]

the yuuzhan vong were coming anyways. the empire committed genocide on non-humans, not generally a good thing

[@thomasrobson6370]

That's "The Dark Secret" only to those who don't know ancient history; I knew the Jedi "struck first" and started hunting down "dark and other "non-light siders" decades ago.

[@Test-nr3cd]

Luke was never the "up beat" character. He was always unhappy with his current position in life, even as he trained to be a Jedi on Degoba.

[@imppro]

Yes! Finally! I was so tired of the anti-Empire bias!

[@jameslewis2635]

Ryan Johnson has to be in the running for all time worst writer/director for what he did to Star Wars.

[@jordanpowell2242]

James Lewis Here here *slams hand on the table repetably*

[@jeffreyvonstetten5852]

Easily.. So horrifically awful.

[@climber6420]

He's worse than Michael Bay

[@jayburn00]

@@climber6420 Michael Bay actually did a decent job on The Last Ship (or did he just produce that?).

[@AlexeiVoronin]

Rian Johnson did nothing wrong. He made a great Star Wars movie.

[@buildbigwithben]

It makes so much more sense that the force is balanced through one's ability to balance the 2 sides of the force within themselves...I believe Anakin/Vader is the example of the balance that was foreseen but misunderstood...Yoda expresses this in the Revenge of the sith that the prophecy may be misunderstood when speaking to Mace and Obi...

[@laggybum3218]

I am watching that movie now and agree with you.

[@buildbigwithben]

@@laggybum3218 yessssss...there's fine details that George Lucas left behind, that I feel, were missed... glad you can see em too my friend

[@clovis2012]

Balance means acceptance. Accepting things as they are, not as we want them to be. Peace only comes from staying in the present, not regretting the past or worrying about the future. This is where the Jedi went wrong and why Qui-gon was the only true Jedi of his era. Even Yoda bowed to his wisdom and passed along his present moment awareness to Luke. Luke failed in judging his failure instead of accepting it.

[@dogofwar6769]

I think that's a solid theory +Generation Tech. It's a damn shame thought that the writers and directors of this new generation of Star Wars films are so fucking terrible at their job that they can't tell a story with that many layers to save their own lives.

[@markuhler2664]

I agree. If the hard-core fans have to run to your rescue to explain your movie - because they know the characters & settings better than you - then you have failed.

[@DaleESkywalker]

Uhm, not really... The "theory" is not new. You're not going to get spoon fed everything. Up to the end of the trilogy, there will be many unanswered questions. That's what makes you watch all three. If the "hardcore" fans that are boycotting episode IX miss out, it's their own fault for not being patient enough to chill and watch.

[@scottdatplanetsave]

It is a solid theory. I've heard it before but from Anakin's perspective.

[@siriuslywastaken]

Dale Erdmann the problem is that two bad movies don't justify one good one, if episode 9 is even good. Make two courses of a meal that taste like garbage and one desert that tastes average and the meal as a whole sucked. Considering Disney's current Star Wars track record I don't see 9 being anything more than decent. The story presented by 7 and 8 isn't woven together properly enough to grant a very satisfying ending in 9 and the writing itself in the previous two movies leave much to be desired for character development, no character will have a fulfilling ending to their arc because only one or two characters even had an arc, and that was barely passable as development.

[@DaleESkywalker]

@@siriuslywastaken That's an "interesting" way to look at it.

[@RobertoBlake]

From my point of view the Jedi are evil... their dogma has dominated the galaxy and brought nothing but suffering...

[@leonkey6656]

THERE IS NO DARK, THERE IS NO LIGHT. THERE IS ONLY THE FORCE!

[@edgaracajabon9522]

@@leonkey6656 what world you live in

[@mojoman1497]

If you go back and watch III very carefully, it was the Jedi Order who raised Palpatine to Emperor and gave him absolute power.

[@edgaracajabon9522]

@@mojoman1497 l saw it and it was Jar Jar who instigated it. Nobody knew what Palpatine was doing. He kept it from everyone. Yoda said the dark side clouds all. It was Anakin who Palpatine revealed himself to who in turn told it to Mace Windu and they proceeded to confront Palpatine. If anything Anakin was the one who helped him rise to power by killing Mace Windu. So that's all baloney. Just making stuff up

[@mojoman1497]

I'm not making anything up. It's on the film. Anyone can watch it. But sorry, I meant episode 2. I'm not saying the Jedi knew he was a Sith lord, only that the Jedi Order disbanded the senate and gave Palpatine emergency powers. I can't remember which Jedi said it, I think either Yoda or Windu, but they said, "It is done," immediately after granting him emergency powers, without which he could not have become emperor. Go back and watch it. Maybe you just weren't paying attention. It's a classic move of how republics turn into empires.

[@alexsan4843]

Great video! You are right! The Jedi become somewhat blinded by their own light and couldn't see their own dark side anymore. So they were easy to be corrupted. The Sith on the other side were slaves of their own emotions and were so easy to corrupt too. The truth is somewhere in the middle or as a Zen-koan says: The brighter the moon shines, the darker becomes the shadow of the pine. Enlightenment is not turning your back against the dark. It means seeing your own darkness as clear as possible. PS: Sorry for my poor english😅

[@Aristocratic13]

+Joden Thorne gay

[@Aristocratic13]

Alex what do you mean pine?

[@mitchellhayward6492]

10:54. Let's be real here. Luke came to Alch-To just for this.

[@GenerationTech]

Right from the source

[@ThomasFishwick]

Good Good... No honestly I like this interpretation and it is one that i subscribe to. The Force is hopelessly out of balance and it 's as much the Jedi's fault as anyone! Only by willing the slate clean and destroying both the Jedi and the Sith, charting a course between the two ignorant extremes, can the Star Wars Galaxy grow out of this near endless cycle of war and betrayal. One problem. It's pointe out during Luke's conversation with Yoda in The Last Jedi that he never actually read the books! He might have picked them up and looked at them but he never found the courage to embrace their teachings!

[@GAdmThrawn]

Darth Traya tried this by wiping out the galaxy of the Force and failed. It wouldn't have worked anyway as Jedi and Sith are followers of a belief and you can't kill ideas through wiping out followers. That just makes them martyrs. You have to destroy their texts and teachings too. However, since both the Jedi and the Sith are so entrenched in the Star Wars universe it's almost impossible to do this.

[@crgkevin6542]

Of course, then there’s the interpretation of The Force that shows it to negate any semblance of free will, therefore needing to be destroyed... #KreiaWasRight

[@Wilsontripplets]

Look up kreia from kotor 2

[@TangomanX2008]

I kind of figured something like this might be the case. There was something about the Jedi that seemed confused for me. It seems like they understood that there was a problem with the "balance" of the force, and hoped that Anakin would restore it. However, it seemed like their philosophy in practice was to lean towards the light rather than some sort of balance.

[@self-satisfiedsmirk5544]

@@TangomanX2008 Your confusion comes from your preconception that the "light side" and "dark side" of the Force are analogous to the concept of Yin and Yang from Taoist philosophy. It's not. The Force is essentially nature (including sapience, as it is born from nature) incarnate. While its own sapience is vaguely defined at best, the Force amplifies everything that it touches. In the case of sapient beings it amplifies their cognitive capability and presence, allowing for their thoughts and emotions to manifest themselves within the physical world. The Force is nature incarnate, and nature does not adhere to the man-made concept of morality. So, the terms "light" and "dark" should be used sparingly, as they carry an innate moral connotation to them. Nature doesn't seek to achieve balance, but rather equilibrium. This is an important distinction to make because "balance" implies a set standard within a static, unchanging system, where as *equilibrium* implies a relatively stable pattern. When one thinks of nature they're often beset with imagery of calm, tranquil forests and elegant, herbivorous animal grazing peacefully. But, things like volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, and predators hunting and killing prey is just as valid of a representation. What I'm getting at is that the "light side" of the Force is simply the natural world which is driven by a desire to achieve equilibrium with itself. The light side of the Force is constantly waxing, waning, and consuming itself to maintain its stability unconcerned about the effects its actions has on the denizens of the galaxy. The dark side, however, is a corruption/perversion of the Force. It has no true place and only serves to disrupt the natural order of the galaxy. Consequentially, by choosing not to view the Force from a moral standpoint, you can't arbitrarily decide the morality of the Jedi and Sith by their leanings within the Force.

[@CrazyBear65]

They both reject balance out of hand. You can't have the Yin without the Yang, and vice versa.

[@dan_fantastic9353]

The 100-year darkness is cannon! in the cannon comic Star Wars, Volume.2 - Showdown On The Smuggler’s Moon. There is a scene where Luke Skywalker is surrounded by holocrons. the holocrons activate and begin playing their recordings. one of the recordings in the background refers to how the Jedi were split during the 100-year darkness.

[@TheIfifi]

That only proves the 100-year darkness happened, NOT that it was the same as in legends. It's a way of honourering the past but being allowed to re-write it and expand on it if they want.

[@michelelyons9410]

I had always thought that the Jedi Order were far too dogmatic and strict, unwilling to compromise or adjust as time passed. However, that is why we all thought of Luke as the "New Hope" of a brand new Jedi order, one that would not be constrained by the past, but could be more balanced. Luke was not raised in the manner of the Jedi temple, he was free thinker. He was acquainted with the dark and the light, and was in the best position to guide a new temple into a more balanced way of looking at and doing things. With Luke, the new Temple could have been much more like it had been in the very far past, when people first began to recognize and use the force. Luke, who was himself so hopeful, embodied the hope of the future. But, for whatever reason, Disney decided to destroy that character, turning him into a bitter, resentful old loser, so busy wallowing in his own pain that he has nothing to spare for anyone else. The character might just as well have been an alcoholic, homeless bum. The character is pathetic and disgusting and bears no resemblance to the original series character.

[@thomasmarske525]

Life isn’t black and white... there’s at least 50 shades of grey...

[@davidminor4213]

But what is grey when you break it down?

[@thomasmarske525]

David minor, it’s a joke.

[@davidminor4213]

@@thomasmarske525 that too

[@aidenraab1230]

You have changed my view of the Jedi. I would like to thank you

[@AaronPharaoh]

Extremism is the flaw in both the Jedi and Sith. Pacifism is also a flaw. There is always right and wrong based on human morality. In the real world today false equivalencies often exist when comparing sides of an issue. The truth and what is the right thing don't always lie smack in the middle of two opposing sides. Riding the fence just won't do. Back to Star Wars, the Sith were extremists in self indulgence, "power for self" being the pinnacle goal at any cost, Malgus killed his wife because she was his greatest weakness; the Jedi were extremists in holding a dogmatic light side code while trying to achieve a greater good for the whole of the galaxy. Two extreme factions, but I don't see what is right as being directly in the middle. I believe that one side was a great measure closer to ideal.

[@censored4680]

i think that we have differnt definitions of what pacifism is

[@davidminor4213]

Actually the Sith empire is better for long term stability than the Jedi Republic. Democracy isn't built to last because people are stupid and leaders have to cowtow to their people to get votes. Look at Fidel Castro. For fifty years, Cuba had no wars and they have total healthcare. While they have had conflicts, they've been relatively peaceful and self-sufficient. Compare that to our last 50 years. Castro was effective largely because he didn't have to worry about being elected, and as such his people never felt superior to him. Personally, I prefer results to propaganda and beliefs.

[@jeffreymorton2343]

One of the better fan theory sites complete with a guy that actually knows how to speak into a microphone without droning. Gold job guys.

[@ags0767]

The Sith Creed makes more sense and more realistic. The Sith are all knowing and powerful... ALL HAIL THE SITH!

[@shawncollard623]

All hail the Sith

[@l1teralcanc3r78]

Yeah all hail the group that constantly backstabs each other and causes widespread death and suffering everywhere they go.

[@englishlady9797]

@@l1teralcanc3r78 So er, the Jedi as well then. Or are we forgetting the psychopathic Jedi master in the Clone Wars who sent countless Clone warriors to their death purely because he hated them. Count Dooju, a former Jedi, or Revan (also a Jedi). The fact that most SIth started out as Jedi says a lot. The wars between the Jedi and Sith, basically sectarian religious conflicts, were among the most destructive in the galaxy, and unusually caused the deaths of countless beings who were not involved with either group. Which is the problem with a load of space wizards basically.

[@epiclolito8226]

@@englishlady9797 Then let them die. Both are crippled by the end of GCW.

[@dustinbandy3277]

This goes to show the Sith weren't evil. Look at all the appalling things the Jedi did. Wanting to wipe out a independent Jedi academy just because they didnt want to believe their way. The Sith have every right to hate the Jedi. I wonder how many more lies and secrets the Jedi are hiding. This is why I am Sith. I am Darth Vorgas, the lord of hunger and pain.

[@blaznphoenix8013]

Greeting fellow Sith. I am Darth Lyhn.

[@davidminor4213]

Screw you both I'm Jolee Bindo. Hunger and pain appeals to me like hypocrisy and self-righteousness

[@xX_wiLLiam_Xx]

Ow the edge

[@makisonoda7925]

Really great Video and explanation. I love how you stated that balance is brought by the unification of both halves of the Force, just as Yin and yang teaches in our society. If possible I would like to see a video dedicated to the Grey Jedi. Keep up the great work!

[@TheGrandTurk]

I agree with you that neither the Jedi or the Sith are inheritantly good or evil. They each have worldviews and distinct differences in how they believe they should be practiced. Like you mentioned, we've seen Jedi commit atrocities (Anakin/Krell) and we've seen Sith show elements of compassion (Dooku/Asajj). I think George Luca's entire purpose for the prequel trilogy was to bring enlightenment to the fact that "the truth within the legend" would be far less black and white than we think. And clearly from the response he got, he succeeded because people struggled with that truth. In all of the prequel films, the Jedi are not presented so much as the "good guys" but more as a faction that did things for the cause they supported, sometimes even when they didn't believe in them. And since many of those things are things we the audience support or understand, we side with them. From the Sith we see actions that bring stryfe and calamity from a desire for vengeance. And while many of us can relate to having those feelings too at times, most of us also don't think they should be acted on so destructively. Clearly the Jedi, the Sith and other groups out there in universe that have strong connections to the Force have their own cultures and philosophies about its purpose and their level of responsibility to it. I actually wanted the sequel trilogy to explore the Jedi, Sith or whatever new faction of Forcewielders they could come up with in a way that compels the audience. There are so many interpretations of the Force that could have been explored without anyone ever using the terms "light side and dark side". Those terms are intrinsically linked to the beliefs of the Jedi and Sith, they're not necessarily universal concepts for others. That's why I dislike the concept of Grey Jedi. Because it, like the Sith is just another way to be contrary to the concept of Jedi. If the Jedi and Sith are to be left behind in Star Wars as legends, I want new beings with new philosophies and causes that take us on a new journey. In a perfect world.

[@VGLounge]

I like how the main movies show a clear depiction of "the good guys vs the bad guys" much like people portray real past conflicts, but looking deeper into the Star Wars mythos shows things are not as clear as we once thought, much like looking deeper into real conflicts often also shows us things are not as clear as they are often portrayed

[@GenerationTech]

That’s why I always refer to the films as republic propaganda hehe

[@camerontwa799]

Bane's so freaking awesome....

[@blackshogun272]

If we think it about in a more extreme way... *He was fricking Marine Corps Sith Lord !!!*

[@DejanJancevski]

This is a brilliant analysis, from a psychological point-of-view. LOVE IT!

[@mikethomas6061]

Dude that was the best narrative yet

[@Gunfighter150]

One of the Clone War episodes showed that both the light and good side is dangerous and manipulative of others. Light side demanded you be a crusader destroying anything that shows a hint of evil or being a threat to the world to the point of disrupting balance. All are part of the order and must serve their roles even if they don’t want to. You had to be willing to give up the life of others and love ones to keep the darkness at bay which in turn warps and corrupts you into a wannabe martyr and crusader of justice who don’t realize the damage and mistakes your making because of your self righteousness. The Dark sides is tempting you to focus on your own experiences and emotions to the point you become closed off to empathize with others. You become so caught up in your own head that you forget why you made certain decisions and went down certain paths. You’re just corrupted warp individual of who you once were.

[@charliespurr7325]

All sith want is freedom...

[@nickvinsable3798]

Your theory seems so correct, but you forgot to read the Grey Jedi Code AND I would like to hear your interpretation of the Grey Sith Code (it doesn’t actually exist, but I would like to hear it anyways).

[@GAdmThrawn]

There is no such thing as Grey Jedi or Grey Sith Codes. Those are just fans' inventions that aren't actually in the Star Wars universe.

[@jonniezodiac]

Nick Vinsable the only "grey" sith went fucking insane man...

[@nickvinsable3798]

Now hold on. Are you expressing that today’s religions aren’t facing this problem as well, just as it has in its past, & that ‘Grey Jedi’ & ‘Grey Sith’ aren’t coming together to peacefully resolve this mess while still willing to defend ourselves & others from such extremists?

[@GAdmThrawn]

+Nick Vinsable W-haaaaaaa? Who said anything about "today's religions?" What on earth are you talking about here? We just said that there's no such thing as Grey Jedi or Grey Sith, so where's your proof that these things even existed in the Star Wars universe or if they even came together? All we did was disagree with you here on the validity of their existence and now you're just spewing nonsense.

[@GAdmThrawn]

@Joden Thorne All good points. I think the reason that the Grey aspect keeps coming up as it is a good contrast to the whole black and white perspective we see in Star Wars. Morally grey characters have been popular in modern media and even before then in classical literature. But like good, well-written villains, they are almost always used as a warning of what not to do. Nowadays it seems that Post-Modern media has started to idolize and confuse "morally grey" with "morally righteous." The righteous path is the one that only you see regardless of what people, society, and even the audience may think. In action and adventure films, particularly of the superhero genre, they are vigilantes and more often than not they only make things worse.

[@TK199999]

I once read a version of the ancient Jedi code that think is closer to first force users. It went, 'Emotion, yet Peace. Ignorance, yet Knowledge. Passion, yet Serenity. Chaos, yet Harmony. Death, yet the Force.' The idea was not to deny the dark side as much as understand it along with the light.

[@metalchickenproductions332]

What Luke found out is that no matter how or how hard one side fights to maintain power, the force will always betray the side on top and allow its opposite to rise until such a time as that side can once again rebel. We've seen this shift back and forth since the beginning. Now look at that cosmic truth through the eyes of Luke. Finally defeat the dark side just to find out it will inevitably rise anyway causing more suffering and nothing can be done to break this natural order so even though it was necessary all that work to win won't matter pong term. Also explains why Kylos potential rise scared him so much. He feared the inevitable rise of the dark side had come and inadvertently caused it himself such as fate in StarWars.

[@metalchickenproductions332]

Lol pong for the back and forth

[@crazeelazee7524]

One small correction. In 3:00 you mention that "aion" means "life, age, generation". That was the case in Homer's era, around 10th century BC but by the 4th to 3rd century BC its definiton had become (and remains to this day) "eternity".

[@travus111]

shut up nerd

[@crazeelazee7524]

no u

[@GAdmThrawn]

Then he should've provided that interpretation. I was very confused when he revealed the definitions on the screen and then said something that was completely different.

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Cool reference, Crazee. Wonder if it also refers to the Unifying Force?

[@paulciampo2104]

I'd be all for a grey jedi organization. However, the bastardization of Luke shouldn't have happened. *spoilers The now non canon (I thinks thats the name) Dark Empire comic was much better than this trash. Luke taking down a Walker solo with just the force, the emperor surviving via darkside mind transfer to his own personal clones and Luke turning to the darkside for a short while. Disney ruined it. Furthermore, the lack of backstories kill it too. You could fit three movies between 6 and 7. 7 should have been longer and full of flashbacks.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

It's called EU which is renamed as Legends

[@williampaulsinghharika2627]

I like the old EU version more where Jedi and Sith where once one on Tython and lived together for thousands of years, studying light and dark. But then light side users created the jedi codex and forced it upon all force users, exiling all dark side users from Tython who did not comply...who then traveled to the Sith species homeworld.

[@BibleStudent4U]

One of my favorite quotes from the Justice League is Amanda Whaller saying something to the effect of we're never quite as good as we think and they're never as evil

[@skyblailock7248]

Good video and I’m glad you added Ashoka’s quote from Rebels. I’m not 100% on board with all the canon material, but some of the books are fantastic and I actually liked the Luke scenes in TLJ.

[@GenerationTech]

Yea my head canon is as long as legends doesn’t directly contradict canon it’s still true

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Shadows of the Empire, Shadows of Mindor and some of the X-Wing books still fit for me, at least by headcanon rules. Maybe Thrawn stuff too.

[@maryellencook9528]

A radical/extremist anything is dangerous; all things in moderation.

[@fduranthesee]

*Radical Centrism intensifies.exe*

[@robertdl9046]

...even moderation

[@macnut68]

Even moderates have to draw a line somewhere.

[@JamesMC04]

Extreme moderation is a pretty bad idea as well. Some things are worth dying for, and living for. Moderation did not bring about the end of slavery in the US. Moderation allowed Hitler to grow until only war could defeat him. Sometimes, extremism is desirable, appropriate and necessary,

[@IcePhysicsGaming]

It's fine if you're being moderate in being moderate.

[@tychoordo3753]

The problem is, the movie doesn't explain that. And I highly doubt The Rise of Skywalker will manage to properly explain it either. Meaning this will probably stay conjecture based on what is mostly Legends and thus not canon.

[@martinwakefield8138]

This is perhaps the most intellectually honest and inspirational videos I have seen in a very long time

[@Mr-Tibbster]

It's an interesting topic because there are multiple ways of seeing it. That the Force "inbalance" means "all light" is the Jedi view (and is Lucas' view too). And that the Darkside is the negative cancer of the Force that throws it out of balance. This is how the Jedi saw things. That using it eventually corrupts the spirit and the physical self (as seen by the grey skin and yellow eyes), turning people into walking corpses, the Darkside eats up everything it touches. It feeds on negative emotions, hate, fear agression. And thus these emotions become manifest in the people who use the Darkside. The Jedi ban emotion, or at least supress them, in order to not risk falling to the Darkside, in a somewhat.. irony of fear of their own emotions and thus supressing them. Though they see emotions as normal and natural, they fear any emotion what so ever will tempt them into the Darkside, and taint their tranquil connection to the Force, and feed dark energies which would turn them, as the Dark is about the "rawer" energies that people feel, their feelings, desires, etc. The other view is that too much light leads to stagnation, and too much dark to destruction, that one needs to weild both sides of the Force for them to balance out. This is the Je'daii view. As mentioned in the video. That in order to act... one needs motivation, and to get motivation one needs to "feel something", to have a moral center, compassion, love for people.. etc, these are emotions. Now there are two subsets to this... 1. To use both sides of the Force, Dark and Light.. that they can balance each other out, and only one losing their balance and forgos their connection to the Light will turn evil... though in Jedi history this has proven to be problematic... as anyone using, even in an attempt at balance, goes all out Dark most if not all of the time as it's like drugs, use it a bit, suddenly you can't stop unless you quit 100%... but some insist this view is fed from the fact that it's simply evil people themselves in the Jedi order who learn the Darkside because they had bad motivations in the first place. Due to being brought up on Jedi dogma that "Dark = evil", that would imply only a person who doesnt care that it's evil, would begin to learn it as a Jedi, and become ex-Jedi. Further confirming the Jedi beliefs of Dark = always evil. A form of confirmation bias.. as it were due to the internal social and religious construct that surrounds them 24/7, that they teach students, only bad people learn the Darkside, so the good people stay away from it, and the bad people.. don't care and go and learn it anyway in defiance, which then creates an echo chamber of confimation of belief. But then again, it's also possible that they are right, and using the Darkside "is" simply inherent evil... 2. The alternative understanding of the balance, is that whilst emotions can lead to Dark powers, one does not have to actually use the Darkside it's self and yet still can freely feel emotions... focusing on the lightside of the Force only, and it's powers via meditation and peace. The free use and acceptance of emotions being considered the "dark offset in this balance", even ones such as love and passion, but without actually channeling it into dark uses or "dark energies" of the Force, and thus this could then create a form of Jedi that feel all human emotions, love, romance, etc and does not let those emotions lead them to using Darkside powers in themselves, because it's offset by their focus and dedication to the Lightside of the Force, as opposed to the first model of "balance" where one literally uses Light and Dark powers. This attainment of balance is simply feeling emotions freely, but using only Lightside powers. A blend of the tradtional Je'daii view and Jedi view as it were. That using the Darkside and emotional energies and expressing them into "powers" which manifest "Dark Energy", is a peversion of the Force, but just the strong passions, emotions and firey side of a person are the "natural" parts of the "Darkside" of the Force, the non-harmful part of it, the off set to the natural tranqulity and stillness of the Lightside, the will to act, and feel, as demonstrated by Luke Skywalker, in that his love for his father stopped him giving into the Darkside it's self as a power to destory him, but to show him mercy. Too much Light = death by apathy and stagnation. Too much Dark = Death by selfishness and destruction. The balance then... using the Lightside, whilst allowing the alternate side, the natural Dark to flow in the form of the allowance of the existance and experiance of natural emotions. Thus forming the perfect togetherness. Tranqulity, peace, yet motive and action to protect and achieve. Much like the "orginal Jedi Code" that was made just after the formation of the very first Jedi.. "Emotion, yet peace... Ignorance, yet knowledge... Passion, yet serenity... Chaos, yet hamony... Death, yet the Force..." As opposed to the later version which added the lines "there is no.. but" If you ask me, personally. The very first Jedi, right after the end of the Je'daii, had it right. They allowed emotions, natural emotions, without actually channeling them into the Force or using Darkside powers (which would be and have shown to be corrupting...) unlike the Je'daii. It was the "code of Odan Urr" that made the Jedi emotionless, stagnant monks who followed a code of apathy, yet still tries to carry out the orginal tennets of public service and compassion to others that the earliest Jedi formed, based upon their "orignal code", which caused a contradiction that utlimatly tore the Jedi apart and caused them to become ironically dead to the Force and afraid of the experience of their own emotions. Really, the definitions of balance, light, dark is all about the context and framework of the Force one looks at/believes in.

[@moonmilk15]

Would you say that the Grey Jedi follow moral relativism? A denial that objective truth can be found?

[@Mr-Tibbster]

@@moonmilk15 Depends what type of "grey Jedi" you refer to, as they are often misunderstood. Grey Jedi can mean a Jedi who uses only the lightside, but operates outside the authority of the Jedi council, and is seen as a a bit of a rebel (like Quigon Jinn). And then there are grey Jedi who try to literally use both sides of the Force, but majorty of them end up turning fully dark, and the other half of them hermits as they continually struggle to maintain sanity between using the Light and Dark and so close themselves off from society and end up doing nothing, as that's the nature of trying to use the Darkside in any form (and was the cataylst behind the fall of the "Je'daii" order who tried to be "grey" in that manner). Maybe "some" of them feel in such a way as you suggest, but that would be an "individual" thing.

[@moonmilk15]

​@@Mr-Tibbster I agree with your perspective on that. Some may feel grey, but there is a wide variety and it will depend upon the individual. Mace Windu channeled his dark side into Vapaad, turning it into a weapon for the light. Quigon chose to follow the living force and it led him down his own path. And many more examples... I had another opinion on the dark side. The son on Mortis represents the dark side, and I think we can learn a lot about the dark side from his actions. Many grey Jedi think they can dabble in the dark side, but eventually fall. It seems that even though parts of the force (the Father) seek to maintain balance, the Son is clearly interested in tipping the balance of power in his favor and ruling the force. He wants to corrupt force users, he wants them to do dark deeds, and that may explain why it's so addicting. If the dark side is ever present and seeking power, "being neutral" would prove to be difficult. Palpatine proved the balance of the force can be shifted. Aspects of the force rose up against him, but it wasn't able to smite him down immediately, which implies that darkness can rule if given the opportunity.

[@Mr-Tibbster]

@@moonmilk15 A cool way of seeing it

[@jps6071]

EccentricM This is obviously not longer George Lucas view. He might have played with the idea to see the entire Dark Side as a cancer at one point. But he had clearly changed his mind. Else, why would The Son exist (Incarnation of the Dark Side) as part of the Balance in the Mortis Arc in Clone Wars? And why would Yoda be forced to accept his own inner darkness when he is faced with his evil double in season 6? And all that was long before Disney took over. So it was when Lucas was still in charge. Balance now obviously means that a certain level of darkness has to exist and that you have to accept as part of you, but try to overcome it´s influence. (at least if you want to be part of the light.) The Sith however, with their extremist agenda to use the Dark Side to conquer and reshape the entire galaxy by their design, are truly a source of imbalance.

[@thenbagreatteller1855]

The dark secret of the Jedi order I'd that some Jedi killed their apprentices 😂

[@richbuckley6917]

Recently heard on Dark Journalist, a mind set, an ascension formula for humankind: “Draw an arrow with a sharp arrow head on both ends of the arrow. When you look out into the world, it is also looking back into you. Now step back and see both ends of the arrow from the higher perspective.” Know both, see both, feel both, only the love in both is truth.

[@Urkinorobitch]

It's funny when I first played KOTOR I got fully immersed and theres the part where you get to korriban and infiltrate the siith academy and I genuinely felt sort of betrayed by those damned jedis on dantoiine that lied to me. I loved the process of KOTOR where you dig through ruins to discover everything thats occult about the force, basically none of them really know how it works there was never any balance achieved. The dark side and light side fight happens inside everybody (that is litterally the main theme of all the cryptic quotes about the force) where in a compassionate jedi like Anakin can become the dark lord overnight and a ruthless siith master like Revan can snap out of it and rediscover himself to be good.

[@anubispup4760]

I want some serious books on this stuff. Big ones.

[@axtothemax4356]

I Love this channel. I think your theory is right

[@mskransrocks1]

4:30 anyone with any knowledge knows it was the Sith that originally discovered the force. It was "after that" that the Jedi discovered the force was maliable. That it had both light, and dark sides, and usage. The Jedi even admit to it sighting the first Sith world as being those who first discovered, and used the force. It is the "Disneyfied" version of events that denies this. Even the cartoon series notes the birth place of knowledge of the force,though the planet was wrong. "Sithose" was the origin of the discovery of the force. It's people we're referred to as Sith. The Sith religion was based upon Sithose being the homeworld of the discovery of the force, and was the first world to be destroyed by those craving, and mastering dark side power to be destroyed. It was so decimated by dark side users it remained unlivable even thousands of years later. The world Yoda visits in the cartoon series is actually a second world discovered by those who escaped Sithose before it's destruction. It was on that world the sith people decided to limit their use of the force so as that world would not suffer the same rate as Sithose. It was their that Darth Bain made the rule of two. He, his apprentice, and the military under his command wiped out the lower level users after the main cities and temples had been built because of uprisings that continually threatened the existence of the Sith people, and their new world. Unlike Sithose, Darth Bain had complete control of this new world, and even though in the end the sith people, and the entire military had to be destroyed. The world was still habitable and the Sith "religion", and the rule of two remained. The Jedi weren't even a practice, or religion until about a thousand years later when it was discovered the force also had a light side. Before that the force was considered cosmic dark magic....and completely feared.

[@adamberndt4190]

Cannon is stuff we know for a fact happened, Legend is when 2 guys are sitting around the cantina at Mos Eisley and one guy say "You know they say that...." Or "Well I heard....". That's the way I make everything with 'Cannon' Vs 'Legends' work in my mind.

[@kenlantz4906]

Ex-fucking-actly! I don't understand how people are so upset about Luke's actions and state of mind in The Last Jedi. Probably because they themselves are stuck in their own extremes. Beautiful how you threw it right back into a societal sense of relation. Ever since I was little (when Return of the Jedi came out) I've felt this sneaking feeling that this was the major flaw in Star Wars. The ideal life just seemed too perfect. BRAVO FOR THIS VIDEO! And sorry (kinda) for expletive. Best one I've seen from you all yet and keep up the good work!

[@robertkalinic335]

Luke was behaving like a child instead of super enlighted balanced force user.

[@HegolinOfTheNerds]

I like that he seems to have discovered that the narrow view of the Jedi was wrong. I don't like that he just hid on a desolate worlds while the galaxy needed him. He should have built a better Order of Force users, not mope around on some backwater planet drinking disgusting green milk, that is what in my opinion the Luke of Ep. 6 would have done. But no, like every other hero of the old trilogy he has to be sad, broken and absolutely miserable. I get that he felt shameful after considering to kill his nephew and losing his life's work in one night, but even then, sitting on that rock while drowning in pity is not what he should have done. Luke was always about moving on and trying to be better than the past.

[@KallenMalefic]

STFU, incel.

[@ryancroy]

Because they reversed his character development from the OT. In The OT he was a whiney kid. In TLJ he's a whiney emo.

[@pyeitme508]

Great video!!! However, WHEN WILL WE SEE US NAVY SEALs VS GALACTIC EMPIRE DEATH TROOPERS?!!!!!

[@jacc_3692]

Soon hopefully :]

[@pyeitme508]

@@jacc_3692 ok thank you.

[@mustardgas5424]

The death troopers got no chance

[@genericpersonx333]

Won't happen because them S.E.A.L.s would just pwn the Galaxy. Can't have smart soldiers in Star Wars.

[@pyeitme508]

@@mustardgas5424 agree!!

[@philipchenmba]

At 8:26 , the Jedi's code is teaching humans to behave like machines: "Machine has no emotions, no ignorance, no passion, no chaos (it follows programming codes) and there is no death. No wonder it didn't work, because it is trying to apply another species thinking to humans. It's like trying to preach human's moral standards to cockroaches.

[@blackshogun272]

I'm so proud of you guys bringing the O.G. lore into the video

[@bruknorx]

Those books that Luke had were an original, signed set of Harry Potter books

[@orrthehunter]

The Jedi Order was just the extremist group of Light side users that have become binded by the light by looking at it for too long.

[@Dragon_Lair]

More like Luke found out that Kathleen Kennedy was now in charge and grew despondent and lost hope for the future of Star Wars.

[@FLOABName]

"champion pod racer"? he won one race. no he completed one race. all other races he was in he never even made it to the finish line.

[@ct-707wolftrooper7]

Grey Jedi all the way baby woooooo Got too love them

[@user-oe9dm5vi4g]

There are no emotions, there is only Generation Tech.

[@Nikoli492]

The fact that they wipe out the grey Jedi order, attack the sith first & are afraid of anything that represented the dark side made you wonder who's really the bad guys of the star wars universe.

[@ErikBurmanIMINDETEGY]

right the dark and light side needs to be with one onother

[@winthropaugustine8125]

good point, I like this POV considering the poor creation of Disney Star Wars theme. thank you, you gave me a different angle to look at.

[@EmberAlberson]

You just had unrealistic expectations and didn't know what disney was going to do.

[@iansholylordinquisitor4271]

you did a good job on the break down. the force itself is a neutral element. It depends on the wielder how it is used. Weather Sith or Jedi.

[@ADavid42]

Thank you, this is helping me find a way forward with Reylo in my fanfic. Quote: - This is how we defeat the Tor Valum, together. Ben Solo suddenly straightened. "Rey, " he said, " are you willing to forego becoming a Jedi if we destroy the last Sith Master ?" Ben retains much of Kylo Ren's persona through out the struggle, and Rey allows Dark Rey to come to the surface. The concept of the Prime Jedi is explored, the Grey Jedi is in the works

[@Phil_McNally]

no thumbs down yet. So it's true, Sith always finnish first :D

[@ericmadsen6132]

That theory is so good! I do not think I have heard a better one. Can you do a video about the differences of the jedi, sith and Judi?

[@marajade2224]

Malacor 5... They better be giving us Revan with that.

[@charliespurr7325]

And Nihilus

[@fristnamelastname5549]

Jedi: We are a peace loving order, who respect everyone's opinion. Sith: *Hello* Jedi: Sith bad! Sith MUST DIE!

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

This was the story I wanted in TLJ. It was going sort of well but it was shattered when Rey refused to to join Kylo and become Grey Jedi.

[@censored4680]

what i thoght kylo was getting here to like become his shit apprentice

[@jeffreyfederico8435]

No such thing as grey jedi in the star wars universe. Not in any book,movie, comic or game. Let it go. Its false

[@armandorivera3425]

Star Wars compares with the real world.....thank you George Lucas for sending the message

[@datastorm75]

The thing is, The Last Jedi could not have made it to theaters without JJ Abrams and Disney giving final approval to its final cut. Therefore, what happened in there is likely an approved and vital part of the narrative.

[@sveinndagur]

While the jedi were very imperfect the idea that the sith aren't evil just doesn't hold up. The dark side allows it's users to literally draw power from their own hatred and suffering. It's evil.

[@KOSMOS1701A]

Well look at the Jedi. They say a Jedi draws power from the force, and the force binds all living things in the galaxy, so going by that logic a Jedi is drawing his power from every living thing in the galaxy. Personally, i'd rather draw power from my own emotions.

[@jbuckner7653]

Do you guys think we're going to get Darth revan in cannon

[@zachpitcher5800]

@@darthrevan7710 i think they did make him cannon. in the online game, not sure though. but his story ended badly. just warning

[@rickjohnston555]

Excellent content! How about giving us your version of Ep 9? How would you end the Skywalker saga.

[@lrandol456]

This might be the nerdiest of all Star Wars channels.... I love it!

[@Warhammered]

Pretty much spot on. The force was in balance when people used both sides equally in their daily life. Jedi and Sith are both wrong and extremists, end of story. This is why Grey teachings (from many other force sensitive cultures as well, which you can look up, that are now 'legends') have been preached about by many fans for years. That's all that needs to happen again. No black and white/light and dark only. It's just a stupid cycle on both ends. So yeah, both the Jedi and the Sith teachings must die off. Maybe then, someone can start a rebirth of the original teachings that embrace emotion and reason. Force users are people with hopes and dreams, faults and talents, not automatons guided by a rule, and should be allowed to live as such.

[@rprince418]

You know what? I'm starting to get this strange feeling that this channel is pro-Legends... I like it!

[@GenerationTech]

well we definitely don’t want people to forget if that’s what you mean

[@rprince418]

@@GenerationTech Keep up the great work! lol

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@Generation Tech im not ready for those things to get wooshed away into some *japanese fantasy land,* not... yet.

[@chrissonofpear3657]

#Legends4ever

[@robertoakes5117]

Lots of people say that the Jedi Code doesn't make sense. It truly only makes sense, if you place the word "When" in front of each line.

[@narosedraconis2424]

This is why I prefer the concept of Gray jedi over the sith and jedi Concept.

[@Jungoguy]

Narose Draconis masters of light and dark. They are balanced

[@nv4031]

I do love my morning routine cigarette and generation tech

[@nowhereoac3192]

Correction wake n bake then cig and generation tech

[@KushSalad]

Grey Jedi for life baby.

[@KushSalad]

Joden Thorne Mcay, mcay. I hear ya. You Sith, Jedi, Dark Jedi, Nightsister, or somethin’ else?

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Joden Thorne Now im a simple nerf farmer that likes his leavers now im no expert but isn't exterminating a side literally destroying the balance

[@jeffreyfederico8435]

No such thing as grey jedi in the star wars universe. Not in any book,movie, comic or game. Let it go. Its false

[@jeffreyfederico8435]

@@darthrevan7710 Hard to be the way when it doesn't exist