The Dark Side Of Britain: The Hunt | UNILAD Original Documentary

[@HyenaChannel2014]

From a farmer's point of view, it's understandable that you have to shoot a few foxes to protect your chickens, although I feel like an upgrade in security for the chickens would be far more effective in the long run. People who kill native wild animals just for the sake of killing, however, is unjustifiable sadism that needs outright recognition as a serious crime.

[@wmd40]

Totally right and these people are disgusting. They literally want to watch a fox be torn to shreds. It's so creepy and evil. That's not culling for environmental or farm protection. That's sadism

[@zosialee7000]

Hyena Channel I get what u are feeling. I live on a farm. I adore every singe animal on this planet..... Ok maybe not spiders. But i have to protect my own before anything else. Ive had to kill things because of it. I hate it so so much. Yet these guys arnt always on their property. And theyre doing it for sport 😞

[@angusmeigh5141]

Hunts now follow pre laid scent trails not live foxes. This video is rubbish. So called hunt sabs give town dwellers a bad name and make it harder for ramblers, mountain bikes and campers to gain access to private land etc. For decades organisations like the ramblers association worked hard to build up good relations with countryside dwellers and land owners and all that hard work is being undone by these stupid so called hunt sabs. Most country dwellers welcome town dwellers into the countryside as we bring money to the countryside and business to country pubs. But that is all under threat from these hunt sab idiots!

[@matthewphillips5950]

@@angusmeigh5141 do you get an extra boot to lick as a treat when you defend these murderers?

[@Moony.fairyy]

your point is good but the killing because of your cattle i mean the fox doesnt know and its just trying to eat maybe setting up electric gates would be better but your point is still good

[@shaunmcelkerney2084]

200 years ago this might of made sense.. But if a farmer can't make a chicken coup fox proof in the 21st century then there's no hope for farmers

[@Cupit29]

THIS^

[@Tony-sh7hl]

It’s tradition and a thrill.

[@xRemRooodx]

Both sides have c*nts and i only feel sorry for all the animals involved. The horses and dogs just do what they're trained to do. And the fox just want to eat to survive. It's us humans that are the problem.

[@kalash_fox7049]

Under rated comment

[@dominiccampbell947]

Should we not be campaigning for Kevin's barber to be brought to justice instead? Jesus, the poor guy.

[@jonesjones8291]

"people pay to follow on horse-back, that's how i get my income" 5 minutes later: "In no way is this for profit, it's pest control" "i'm an adrenaline junkie" 5 minutes later: "it's not like I get some enjoyment out of it, i'm not evil like they make me out to be" sensing a bit of a double story here

[@tomjones5648]

The money go to the hunt to pay for food and water for the dog and vets bills

[@janetross8601]

Janet ARE you kidding me Jones everything is for profit listen we are supposed to live in a civilised country not a barbaric one . But I'm sorry Jones you seam to think otherwise even if you shoot the fox how do you know that the fox is really dead .isn't it the case that fox could be still breathing & dying and then you send in the hounds to finish it off. Is it just the same thing as getting the hounds to tare a live fox apart. I'm sorry Jones it's just barbaric it's not foxes that are vermin but certain so called human being's are. I'm sorry Jones maybe that fits your category l sincerely apologise if I'm wrong sorry. But I've been an animal lover all my life that will never ever change (DOMESTIC AND WILD NO MATTER WHAT). ;)

[@fabplays6559]

@@tomjones5648 Ah yes, food and water for the dogs that are treated like objects, frequently beaten during training and put at risk at being run over by cars or trampled by horses or bitten by rabid foxes.

[@tomjones5648]

@@janetross8601 I tend to stamp on its next to make sure it's dead and hit it with sticks

[@tomjones5648]

@@janetross8601 saves us £1.7p a bullet to shoot them and the time and helps people get out and exercise, and winds you lot up, win win for everyone 😆👍

[@sb2044]

22:40 he said ‘hox funting’ twice😂😂😂

[@joshuawhittick4496]

love how adam and kevin are on first name basis

[@liamphillips2967]

Just a little side note the man who was acting as the shooter for the hunt is right in the UK a Firearms certificate and a shotgun license are two very different things

[@nicevans6827]

You need a firearms certificate to own a shotgun in the uk, in most peoples books, that makes it a firearm.

[@CountvonCount33]

@@nicevans6827 No you do not! You need a shotgun certificate to own and use a shotgun and you need a firearms licence to own and shoot a rifle.

[@nicevans6827]

The 13th Duke of Wybourne I think I’ll read the government website and trust that over someone on KZbin. Many thanks though.

[@CountvonCount33]

@@nicevans6827 No worries, I read it every 5 years when I renew my certificate, let me know if anythings changed will you? Ciao!

[@oznazdreg]

​@@nicevans6827 Confidently incorrect.

[@cromwellg60]

34:26 A shotgun is still a firearm, however you do not require a firearms certificate in the UK to own one but rather a shotgun certificate as they are classed differently under law.

[@Doncorleone44]

Unless the shotgun is capable of firing more than 3 cartridges consecutively then it’s classified as needing a firearms certificate

[@DHEMGHJS]

Nope a shotgun is not a firearm,that is why you require a different licence for it!

[@Ab.Stat.]

​@@DHEMGHJSthis is incorrect. shotguns are firearms. what a firearm is is not defined by license names

[@DHEMGHJS]

@@Ab.Stat. A shot gun with a barrel length of over 24inches is defined as a smooth bore gun and not a firearm in the UK

[@Ab.Stat.]

@DHEMGHJS all smooth bore guns are firearms. this is not complicated my guy edit: they are also not defined by the law, they are only licensed as such, this isn't a US Vs UK English thing this is a "you don't know what a firearm is" thing

[@littystoker1611]

Love the bit where they stalk a random trailer! Yeah they definitely knew that they were being followed and were hiding, it’s not like horses are transported all day everyday and they were just minding their own business. This man is just completely gormless omg

[@cherylno583]

????? sounds like someones mad they didnt get to rip apart another defenceless animal in the name of "pest control"

[@petejackson612]

better than being a scumbag

[@theodorblidberg1412]

@@cherylno583 okey, animals especially in areas with few or no predators need to be regulated. If they aren't regulated animals would starve to death and have horrible lifes since they wouldn't have enough food. But I definitely don't support any mean or cruel form of hunt. It should be done fair for the animals. For small animals like a fox dogs shouldn't be used for the hunt. Since the dogs hurt the animal and don't just flush them. But fair hunting is not unethical and shouldn't be banned :)

[@cherylno583]

@@theodorblidberg1412 there's no such thing as "fair hunting" - that's the whole point of hunting lol. if you're referring to pest control, this certainly isn't it. i don't disagree with this because i'm not a farmer. you're probably right about that. its not even that the dogs hurt the animal thats the base problem: it's the clear fact that these people do this for fun (half of them literally admit to it), and terrorise a single animal for four hours. i've heard people say foxes are self regulating.. idk if they are or not. but if they aren't this certainly isn't the way to go about it.

[@RothenHQ]

anyone else think the ones that are trying to prevent this look like mental cases 9 out of 10?

[@spyidr1892]

That is because the sabs are mental cases

[@21ADB21]

@@spyidr1892 where did you learn to spell?

[@spyidr1892]

@@21ADB21 the english education system

[@WilburtDurpenheimer]

Next they will protest wild dogs, since they hunt as well.

[@b_to_the_b]

Does anyone else think the Fox Hunters look like they’re inbred 9 out of 10?

[@calvinyoung5251]

Mo hawk and purple hair tells you everything

[@fabplays6559]

Oh no! People expressing themselves! How horrifying.

[@andimoraru5539]

I can get over that savage mohawk, I can forget that purple mistake. One thing I cant understand is how come people enjoy killing and traumatising a wild animal. It's nothing sophisticated about this, only extreme cruelty. But what would I know, I probably have some regrettable tattoos that would question my morality.

[@fredcarpenter1]

Lolll

[@I.have.an.std.]

Foxes don’t have a natural predator and I have 39 chickens so it’s understandable but I really don’t agree with it it’s grim as F

[@craze1792]

Devon Fishing ya know if there’s a dead chicken I would give it to a fox because sometimes chickens kill other chickens

[@pooscifer]

At 42:36 he notes that the amount of livestock killed by foxes is negligible.

[@finwillystick3894]

@@pooscifer do you own or care for any livestock in the country? Be it poultry, lambs or game birds? Until you see it with your own eyes you’d have no concept

[@tojumiladipo4698]

Get a Tibetan mastiff

[@I.have.an.std.]

@@finwillystick3894 exactly

[@babayaga-tbg4122]

Hunting to eat= Yes Hunting for trophies= Burn in hell

[@Steven-ze2zk]

BabaYaga-TBG If you eat meat then you cannot oppose hunting.

[@TruScottishGuy]

@@Steven-ze2zk Yes you can.

[@Steven-ze2zk]

@@TruScottishGuy How so? Either you believe it's wrong to kill an animal for an unnecessary reason be it food, skin or some kind of trophy or you don't. We don't need to eat meat in most places where we live.

[@klaudia711]

jack eating an animal you hunted is honouring it’s life by using its body to fuel your family’s life. If you hunt an animal and just don’t do anything with the body that’s disrespectful.

[@Steven-ze2zk]

@@klaudia711 Why is there meaning to be found in the issue of who killed the animal and how? I can see how hunting may be seen as more palatable than a slaughter house because it looks more like a natural predator/prey dynamic than industrial style killing but it's still killing an animal for an unnecessary reason. Can you easily live without meat? Most can't. I didn't think I could ever live without meat before I tried it but my diet is boring and I would never expect anyone else to eat it. I eat soups, some stir fry things and that's about it. I don't care what anyone says. It is not be that easily to truthfully enjoy a plant based diet. I don't see a vegan MacDonald's, pizza hut, burger king, Chinese take out, Indian restaurants and so on. If you have to rely on the world to feed you, it's gonna give you the option of meat, cheese and dairy.

[@triplepee3390]

I have never hunted Fox's and I have never been interested in stopping people hunting either, I do however enjoy watching these sabotage idiots getting their faces punched in by farmers. I actually find it quite hilarious when people trespass on someone else's land, make a nuisance of themselves and then scream and cry when they get man handled

[@DMWBN3]

triple pee you written pretty much how I feel. I see foxes in my city and leave them be. There is one around my back garden every night screaming, I like it, it's like a sound of nighttime city life. Bet most of these got stride leather boots, eat halal meat 🍖 🦊 etc etc. "Your on camera 🎥 " Proceeds to smash the windows in. Probably trespassing. I find it pretty amazing they know every dog by name and individually.

[@jordanhartley9272]

Well said I love hunting

[@jojo94101]

@Zak Giffgaff Up to 80% of countryside dwellers oppose fox hunting. Do your research.

[@jojo94101]

It's a sport for bluebloods and wannabe aristocrats

[@alisonlouise6406]

The hunters trespass more than the sabs do!

[@iansmith3464]

I thought that was a really good program to show both sides of the fence sitting down discussing the matter being civil and honest.

[@shaneasprey9734]

I'm just gonna give my two pounds, but, where I live, an urban environment, there are TONS of foxes and nothing gets done, they go to the local pond where people fish, and eat the geese, you can see the feathers when you pass by. They also attack local pets, cats especially, let alone that god awful crying woman/baby noise they make when calling to each other, creepy as fuck.

[@19822andy]

My parents kept 3 chickens and loved them. A fox came in and killed all 3. Didn't even take one for food. They weren't disturbed either. My parents were away for the weekend.

[@christianbigdawg2481]

@@19822andy didnt love them enough for good enough fences🤭

[@19822andy]

@@christianbigdawg2481 What do you expect them to do? It was a back garden putting up 8 foot fences was not an option fool.

[@Tdr-jv2nc]

@@19822andy we lost two of our chickens to foxes it was very sad but that’s nature. Wolfs do the same thing. Fox will kill as many as it can as it does not know where the next meal is coming from. Man is the problem on earth no animals like foxes

[@TTbambam13]

Let’s make fox hunting in cities legal

[@BrunoTheeGoon]

No one gonna ask how a bird of prey was getting in on the fighting 😂

[@gtgg3743]

The dogs are abused and neglected as well. This activity is just pure evil.

[@gw5158]

The dogs are never neglected. to do so would be counter productive an unfit dog is a ineffective dog

[@kylsters]

@@gw5158 he said they shoot the lazy dogs, were you listening selectively?

[@mikecoolen6360]

Kyle the anti said that not the pro hunt side

[@DERKIFAL]

Any proof of that? Didn't think so.

[@gw5158]

@@kylsters the uneducated sab said that not the huntmaster. dont belive everything you hear from the left

[@williamwilson7048]

I swear people are getting thicker and thicker and even more thicker

[@notorioustampaton]

I know. What kind of idiot would think hunting is acceptable?

[@tiernanwearen8096]

@@notorioustampaton fox hunting or hunting in general

[@notorioustampaton]

@@tiernanwearen8096 the only time hunting is deemed partially acceptable is if you were genuinely in a survival situation, but if you’re using KZbin you ARE NOT in a survival situation, and therefore it is cruel and disgusting behaviour. The hunting of any animal is wrong.

[@strande7032]

@@notorioustampaton nah hunting isnt wrong only if you hunt in a way that cause unnecessary suffering

[@notorioustampaton]

@@strande7032 if you’re someone who lives with access other foods, hunting is unnecessary. I’m going to assume anyone who is watching this video or comments has access to other foods, because you have access to the internet. Hunting is wrong even if it’s for survival, but in that instance you could be justified to some extent as it’s those peoples only choice, but it’s still wrong. Anyone in this comment section, and chances are everyone else you know, is not in a survival situation so for you it would be incredibly wrong.

[@Thomas-mu4kn]

‘At the moment we’ve got highground’ what is this? Fortnite

[@DMWBN3]

Look pal, you are going bald, do it gracefully and get rid of that hedge on your head.

[@aonis3156]

Oh I realized they're aggressively trespassing but the hunters are doing the same for the foxes

[@Babycakes_2001]

Laurent Courtois farmers also complain about hunts on their land, not all farmers agree with fox hunting and residents complain. Hunts have also killed many other wildlife and domestic animals.Yet if you ban it totally that man in the video said it will go underground because people like him like the excitement of an animal being ripped to spreads because they admire the foxes intelligence. This man was conditioned as a child by his father and no doubt he has children and will have conditioned them the same. Very sad.

[@willosborne8383]

@@Babycakes_2001 nothing to do with excitement, fox’s need their numbers controlling, they breed like rabbits and have no problems wiping out other species such as ducks, geese, rabbits, pheasants and sometimes even peoples pets. many cats have been killed in the countryside because they aren’t being controlled anymore

[@Babycakes_2001]

@@willosborne8383 foxes do not need controlling, humans do.

[@willosborne8383]

@@Babycakes_2001 you are a clown🤡, foxes steal peoples pets for food, kill live stock such as lambs, calf’s and piglets, will eat their way through fences to get at chickens, pheasants or partridge and have no predators so their population is always growing to the point where people in some areas can’t have certain pets as the risks are too high

[@roo3076]

Nothing dark about it. Managing fox numbers is vital for the health of the countryside. Life isn’t a Disney film.

[@maxs28]

There is a right and wrong way to do it

[@21ADB21]

Let's say you're right. Do you think shooting and ending a foxes life quickly and humanely is more civilised or efficient than chasing one for an extended period of time on horses with a pack of dogs which then rip it apart?

[@hc8299]

My understanding is that when a predator population goes up the Prey population goes down. Then because the prey population is down the predator population drops and off the back of that the prey population increases again. It’s a natural balance I’m pretty sure nature got on fine a long time before humans started “culling”. These guys are cruel bullies and use the arguments like that to justify their actions

[@kevin-john4089]

@@21ADB21 in my opinion id prefer to shoot them and end the fox quickly instead of putting it through the pain of being ripped apart because yeah they are trouble most the time but its still better to kill them off quickly instead of letting them suffer as a dog rips it apart

[@21ADB21]

@@kevin-john4089 my point exactly

[@andrewliuinhills]

Some people have been living in city too long! Silly!

[@wmd40]

Getting a thrill out of seeing an innocent creature being torn to bits is disgusting no matter if you're from the city or not. That's not hunting, it's torture. And if you get off on torture and death there's something wrong.

[@countercivilization]

Foxes are making a good job at eradicating small rodents, rabbits...etc that eat crops. Foxes have an important part to play in regulating the ecosystem. However their predatory instincts can be very detrimental to farmers as they prey on lambs, a fox will kill the whole chicken coop almost everytime just to take one if any...it is their instinct. If you do not live in the country side you can't understand the level of damage a fox can do. A hunter.

[@rhyst-j9469]

finally someone has the same view , a lot of people dont realise the damage they cause

[@Roadrun98]

The worst part is a lot of people do live in the countryside and have no idea about how conservation works. They have this idea that every animal is cute and cuddly and its absurd

[@rosemarydudley9954]

@@rhyst-j9469 ... I have seen a shed load of chickens ravaged by these vermin.

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@rhyst-j9469 it still doesn’t justify making ah event out of watching them get ripped apart by packs of hounds

[@Del-Blanco-Diablo]

Foxes rarely hunt they are mainly scavengers.

[@francisgallant1479]

So there's those guys who hunt foxes and those guys who hunt those guys who hunt foxes. Oh welll

[@yeehawpartner1922]

Killing foxes sometimes is necessary, but dressing up riding around horses with bloodthirsty hounds is a disgusting and absolutely unnecessary way of doing it, there’s a reason why cruel and unusual punishment was banned, it should go the same way for animals.

[@pooscifer]

wait, is it necessary? at 29:37 he says they're a self regulating population

[@BobBob-tr9bc]

Its not like any land/property owner was ever threatened or had their lives made a misery when they didnt give these people permission to ride roughshod wherever they please.

[@skipmole612]

I've thought up a solution. People on horseback with a pack of hounds chase a man with a stupid haircut around the countryside and give him a kicking when they catch him. It could be called 'C unting'...

[@seanadamson280]

He is pretty annoying

[@tom360063]

Hunting with guns = fine. Hunting with dogs = Not fine.

[@Massey-ze3ln]

Ik but hounds bite them to death so that makes sabs bitchy. Guns kill them clean

[@612morrison]

@@Massey-ze3ln the lead hound will snap the neck of a fox and it's all over in less than a second no matter what anyone from the anties on the left say, it's a quick kill as quick as being shots and the clips of a pack of hounds ripping a live fox apart are very misleading the fox is long dead. Anyhow a healthy fox will always get away from the hounds sick and injured ones might get caught unlike shooting them healthy as well as the sick and injured could get shot but a shotgun is only effective up to 30 yards and there's more chance of it getting injured and not killed outright.

[@ossianbommarco1589]

it will absolutely become like lurching, it gets completely baned and it will go underground with real criminals, more foxes will be killed by hounds this way you know.

[@ossianbommarco1589]

@Vivianna Mason - 2025 Go look up illegal lurching (chasing hares with dogs) and illegal falcon hunting or when they band hunting on badgers in the uk. Allot of people continued hunting and are still hunting today illegally. They do it for pest removal, witch dogs is a very effektiv method for. It wouldn't surprises me if large estates wold be happy to illegal pay someone to let there dogs lose and kill foxes to protect the deer that they sell. Or like lurching where they started betting money on how many hares a dog could take during a night of hunting (that's where the criminals come in), bragging rights, or just as a protest against the ban. Hunting is a very deep rooted tradition with some people and they will do it no mater what, and the majority off these people are what you would call civilians. Anyone would be afraid of being caught if they were doing something illegal but ideology and money trumps those fears. Like wolfs that are illegally hunted left and right in Scandinavia just because hunters don't think they should be there cus they kill the game the hunters hunt. Same with the fox where some hunters shoot them out of season just because they kill the deer.

[@danielebbighausen6006]

As a hunter I am generally against using dogs to run down prey. That's just not how I prefer to hunt. Yet I do believe it can be done ethically and responsibly. After watching the entire video, these protesters not against illegal hunting. They're against hunting. They also seem to be preventing humanely shooting the foxes. Nobody is going to be able to shoot the fox if A) the person holding the firearm is being harassed and must unload his weapon constantly in order to prevent any incidents with the protesters and B) if when they can and need to shoot the fox before the dogs catch up to it the protesters then get between the huntsman and the fox. In these situations the protestors are making it both ethically and legally impossible for the huntsman to actually humanly kill the fox.

[@ianhugheswhite76]

Single Dog on fox yes but 30 dogs on fox no that's fucked hare coursing should be legalised again so should badger hunting

[@alcapune6683]

Daniel Ebbighausen you can’t shoot ethicaly. If you wont eat it ,dont hunt it.

[@ianhugheswhite76]

@@alcapune6683what about vermin control

[@afoster1621]

@@ianhugheswhite76 If you think thats so important, get down to westminster, plenty there, maybe a new sport in it ?

[@rosemarydudley9954]

@@ianhugheswhite76 That's just what hunting is about. Include the sabs as vermin.

[@gekgamerdk]

34:07 - A shotgun (also known as a scattergun, or historically as a fowling piece) is a firearm that is usually designed to be fired from the shoulder, which uses the energy of a fixed shell to fire a number of small spherical pellets called shot, or a solid projectile called a slug.

[@BUSHCRAPPING]

in UK law they are two different things

[@Tazza81]

@@BUSHCRAPPING the UK is the only developed country that doesn't classify smooth bore shotguns as firearms.

[@BUSHCRAPPING]

@@Tazza81 the US also has some interesting classifications when it comes to historical weapons . A weapon from 1900 is a firearm but the same model 20 years older isn't legally the same thing. Unless held by a criminal. The definition can literally change depending on who is holding the object. There are lots of odd laws that don't make.sense in a vacuum but in context make sense

[@Tazza81]

@@BUSHCRAPPING yeah the Yanks sure do have some pretty weird firearm classifications as well.

[@DHEMGHJS]

No. A shotgun is NOT a firearm!

[@dyoung4850]

38:15 you know what they should make a serious crime in the UK trespassing, vandalism and interfering with a hunt thats a felony in my country. And after we convicted you of being a nuisance to society we start stripping you of Rights.

[@robw7676]

"In my country" Mind your own business

[@InattentiveADHB]

Imagine thinking stripping somebody of their human rights is a good thing, simply because they disagree with fox hunting. I don’t agree nor disagree with fox hunting, but nobody should have their human rights stripped by people who aren’t intelligent enough to conceptualise the importance and significance of them.

[@jdsaunders12]

It's illegal fox hunting...yet most of the video the hunters are doing it according to the law...XD...

[@caelan8819]

jdsaunders12, we need to close the trail hunting loophole to outlaw all Fox hunting.

[@zoofan9280]

REKKLES MAGNUS There’s no need for population control and in the U.K any and all Fox hunting is illegal full stop.

[@tobytopp9985]

Zoo Fan there certainly is need for population control. If you want to support sheep farming in this country, foxes need to be culled as they have no natural predators, if you are a vegetarian I understand your point. Lamping foxes with a rifle is one way of doing it, driving foxes with terriers to guns is also totally legal.

[@paddymularkey]

@LiamThe biggest predator in this country is the fox its responsible for 60% of fatalities in the 3 smaller spiecies of deer. The Scottish Government is currently spending 10million wiping out deer in scotland, I dont see the twats in here doing anything about it. Proving theyre just Spoiled Thugs looking for the attention their mother failed to provide.

[@paddymularkey]

@Liam The problem with foxes is that they are very efficient hunters and they have a fantastic ability to adapt to which ever environment they find themselves in. Thats why their numbers must be controlled. You may have no reason to control foxes but many other people do. I take it your chickens and are kept in cages.

[@joedavidson23]

The reason 81 percent of the rural community dont support fox hunting is because just due to the fact you live in the countryside does not make you a countryside person🙄

[@spicer878]

Where did you get that stat

[@joedavidson23]

@@spicer878 it literally says it in the video

[@spicer878]

@@joedavidson23 yes but what is the source

[@kurtjappy]

Countryside person??🤣

[@afe4452]

Actually there are 3rd generation farmers who hate hunts.

[@mothballjim]

17:25 flawless whip sound effects 😂

[@RobDeManc]

I think we have to accept that country living is not the same as city living so whatever a city dweller may perceive to be wrong does not transfer perfectly onto what a country dweller would think wrong.

[@janebrooks6528]

Most country people are against hunting. Plenty of farmers in my area hate them and try to ban them from their land.

[@DERKIFAL]

@@janebrooks6528 bull

[@petejackson612]

Do people in the countryside have no morals then?

[@RobDeManc]

@@petejackson612 morality is dependent on time, place, and those involved. Go back 100 years and few people would care about this issue.

[@liamcollinson5695]

Sorry but what I live in a city and used to live in the country and we was completely against fox hunting it's just cruel you don't have to be a farmer to see that

[@silebrighton4270]

These Hunt Saboteurs are so skilled and a joy to watch. But really doing the Police's job for them.

[@Tony-sh7hl]

Skilled at being w@nkers

[@yakacm]

A lot of foxes out foxed the hunt by moving to the cities, every large city I have lived in in the UK, Liverpool, London, Glasgow, Edinburgh and others I have seen foxes deep inside the city.

[@killintime8431]

I’ve never heard of that happening before

[@hmalik5232]

I thought that was because of a human introduced disease that killed rabbits which foxes feed on, but that could be another reason

[@theotheseaeagle]

The main reason is because there’s more available food in urban areas. Foxes rarely need to hunt in urban areas because they can just scavenge in bins or are fed by local people

[@VulpinetideCuteTimes0w0]

I don't like the whole hunting for sport thing in general, but I think people should have the right to hunt no matter the reason as long as it's permitted in the lands. It's how they hunt that we should be concerned about. A quick kill with a hunting rifle is fine, but I don't like that they gotta sick their dogs at the foxes to tear them up alive. Also respect your kill, consume every part of your kill, don't let it rot on the floor to go to waste or rag-doll it around with a smile on your face, it's creepy.

[@hmalik5232]

Why should people have the right to hunt? It’s destroying nature and contributes to making animals endangered and extinct.

[@Tony-sh7hl]

It’s hard to shoot the fox with hounds chasing. People don’t hunt for the kill it’s for the thrill of the hunt.

[@VulpinetideCuteTimes0w0]

@@Tony-sh7hl Cats like to hunt just for the thrills too, but you don't see them having to sick dogs at their prey. What's the point of hunting if you're just gonna have dogs do all the work?

[@Tony-sh7hl]

@@VulpinetideCuteTimes0w0 It’s not about the dogs killing it’s about the hedges and ditches and drama whilst chasing. That’s why drag hunting is just as fun and the majority of hunts are drag hunts. The sabs don’t understand that and I regularly see them at drag hunts and stag hunts with fox posters even though no foxes could possibly be harmed

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@Tony-sh7hl statistics show that only 3% of hunts are actually drag hunts. “Drag” or “trail” hunting is just used as a means to hide the illegal activity that’s really going on

[@waddington539]

Hunting it a british tradition done for centuries as pest controle, it is important as it protects livestock and also stops over population which can damage a ecosystems biodiversity. People from the city need to see all aspects of country life before making a judgement, afterall if it wernt gor country folk you wouldn't have any food. Take a step back and look at your city and make it a better place before trying to change other places.

[@andimoraru5539]

Why don't just shoot the animal out of its mysery or find a more human way of doing this?? I'm sure there's a more efficient way of dealing with this problem without gathering a croud of people on horsebacks watching a pack of hounds tearing apart a wild animal. It's not like farmers use traditional methods from centuries ago to raise crops. Imagine ploughing with a yoke instead of using a tractor because it was done for centuries.

[@lostmeowlodies]

If its for pest control then why do hunt clubs build artificial fox dens to encourage breeding so the cubs can be hunted once they've grown? Would it not make sense to discourage breeding if its for the case of pest control? Nature has it's own ways of fixing overpopulation. Killing livestock isn't a valid reason as livestock are killed by humans anyway. Even if it was to fix overpopulation, there are plenty of methods to do so that don't require killing animals.

[@andimoraru5539]

@Kit Crawley at least you're honest. I can respect that. That doesn't mean you're right. Do you still clean your chimneys using child labor??

[@michealhand1001]

And what does he mean pest control? They are not pests! The only pests are those effers on horseback!

[@waltercresswell2967]

they are pests

[@jigero560]

use drone to film their illegal hunting

[@angusmeigh5141]

I visit the countryside for leisure and all these people do is give us town dwellers like hikers, campers and mountain bikers a bad name! Organisations like the ramblers association are sick and tired of hunt sabs because they are undoing all their hard work to allow public access to private land!

[@klaudia711]

Angus Meigh don’t go on private land then...there’s plenty of public trails you can enjoy without trespassing onto private land

[@cherylno583]

@Laurent Courtois its not hunters land, its owned by the farmers. also you're allowed to legally observe a fox hunt which is why saabing exists

[@murphz6357]

So ur telling me ye listen to a cubby curly chap and an lad with a mo hawk that does know his gender yet for information they don't even know 🙌

[@markdinsdale4869]

Reading this comment gave me a headache.

[@jessevincentsawian9077]

imagine this much effort used to stop drug dealing

[@m.h_productions]

I stand with the hunters. Foxes are pest just as much as rats and racoons. The whimp asses need to mind their own bussnies or face the following. Hunt on from Sweden.

[@musaahmed2431]

Or…you can regulate it with only a couple dogs. That should result in the same detection of the focuses and then they can be humanely killed instead of ripped to shreds. Two hounds are easier to control than 40

[@Tony-sh7hl]

The hounds spread out to cover more ground and pick up scents and uncover foxes. Wouldnt get any foxes if you only had two.

[@BrunoTheeGoon]

I love how the ads are for thermal scopes to kill animals at night 😂

[@garcelleng1142]

Saying that foxes are pest is too much. The foxes also need to survive and to survive they obviously need food. If anyone feels that foxes hunting the livestock is a pest, humans are also pests of mother nature. I know I am also a human, but that's exactly why I am saying this, we do not have the right to say anything about the foxes let alone hunting and killing them. The foxes too has their family why must we label them as pests?

[@Iowdogwillhunt30]

the same reason u label rats as pests

[@garcelleng1142]

@@Iowdogwillhunt30 I don't label any animal as pests.

[@Del-Blanco-Diablo]

@@garcelleng1142 what would you do if your house was infested with rats, would you consider them pets and not pests.

[@akeamee]

Bunch of city kids who have no idea what they’re on about

[@Sameoldfitup]

They kill the foxes and then display the corpses on the intenet then they complain to the police they get a bit of criticism

[@cherylno583]

"yeah if they fall behind they're shot" "they're starved before the hunt" "ye theyre treated very well"

[@DERKIFAL]

More sab bullshit.

[@cherylno583]

@@DERKIFAL LOL

[@DERKIFAL]

@@cherylno583 yeah, lies are really funny.

[@cherylno583]

@@DERKIFAL i find it funny how you can call a valid point "More sab bullshit." please don't be so naive like you are rn, the guy on the video would literally have no reason to lie...

[@marthawilliams5837]

Yeah thats not true darling why would you shot the dog you’ve been training for years

[@kayyak1077]

literally dont bring those guys into japan.

[@mudratrick830]

if it was travelers coursing hares feds would be there in seconds

[@davemis40]

Feds ? You from Texas ?

[@crob8742]

Yeah cause I could bet you it wouldn't be on there land there doing it on

[@Rushem]

@@crob8742 🤣💯

[@mudratrick830]

@@crob8742 would it make a difference on there own land apart from trespassing surely if the sports illegal it’s the illegal on there land or not the only difference is fox hunters make out they weren’t chasing the foxes anymore and they get caught accidentally but all there holes get blocked before the hunt I’m into shooting myself I haven’t got a problem with fox hunting I’ve got a problem with the unequal policing these days one rule for some people another for the toffs lol

[@crob8742]

@@mudratrick830 so would you care if I came and smoked weed in your back garden or would you prefer me to do it on my own land ??

[@dairehayes11]

Does he really have nothing else to do

[@lagangreenbank7684]

6:25 more than 75% of the time the fox goes down the hole and they never get it

[@zosialee7000]

Lagan Greenbank no. The holes they were talking about the hunters dug to fool the foxes looking like a den. It is shallow enough for the dogs to get into though :/ this does allow an allaby for the cops aswell

[@thegary9584]

Government pays us per fox tail in Australia, it’s great, pays for the trip 🎉😂

[@113Branty]

It seems like the activist confrontational stance also has a great impact on the end product we see, instead of the stand off-ish behaviour if you spoke to him correctly you may get somewhere. Its almost like the far leftist college BS thats going on in the US right now.

[@SSJfraz]

If shredding foxes to pieces while still alive with a pack of dogs is deemed ok because "foxes are pests". Then why not shred tories to pieces with a pack of dogs, considering they're even greater pests?

[@zosialee7000]

Mad Mental Hibby im sure u got a point there. But i kinda wanna know what Tories are ?

[@theotheseaeagle]

Very true, especially since hounds have been known to attack farmers livestock

[@abramdavidson988]

@@zosialee7000 Think of them as the modern Republican Party of the UK. Aka: complete racist, conspiracy peddling, rich scumbags.

[@yummycake4016]

@@theotheseaeagle when where and what

[@yummycake4016]

@@abramdavidson988 oop thats right turn it into a class war do you think all the northern hunts vote tory

[@kevinthomas5992]

Well done mate keep exposing sick people.

[@spyidr1892]

Fox pest control is a vital thing to do, they are basically giant rats that are infested with fleas, parasites and all sorts of diseases

[@finn8210]

@@spyidr1892 pest control is important, but the rate and efficiency at which they kill foxes is leading to a drop in population of this beautiful native animal. Its not right and its not fair. Don't get me wrong, I support pest control and hunting sustainably, but this is outright extermination

[@hannnahwaygood2340]

The introduction alone gave me chills…today I witnessed fox hunting in my own back garden (my dad has some land which he works on) we were informed (by the hunt) that the hunt was going out so we put the horse and the cat inside so that there was no way they could become involved or disrupted by it, i went outside to see if I could see anything going on and was greeted by two riders (they were very polite) and then I went to check on the horse. Standing on the back of the trailer I see a group of riders waiting up the public footpath and so I just stood and watched. A little while later a fox came out of my neighbours garden (which backs onto the horse field and public footpath) it went down the path to the “lane” and then waited as it saw the two riders I was first greeted by, it then went back up the path and disappeared, I assumed it had got away, then much further up another fox came out and ran across the field around the back towards the stables and road (separated by the hedge) it also disappeared then the first fox came back (a few minutes later I started recording but I couldn’t see the fox anymore nor did I catch it on film) Then the hounds started coming out of the field and I could see them sniffing where the fox ran across, next thing you know they’re running across the field and into my dads land following the path that the fox took, I was overwhelmed by this feeling that something about what was happening wasn’t right, the riders didn’t follow the dogs because it was on land that was separated by a fence and they couldn’t access it, After a few minutes you could hear them calling the hounds using the horn towards the road however one of them was stuck in my back garden/stables where the fox then reappeared. The hound then chased it away…I felt very lucky for the fox that only one of the dogs managed to find it and not the whole group because I don’t think I would have liked what could have happened if they had all found it. Although my parents don’t agree with the practice they wish to not be involved in doing anything about it because they know several individuals who take part in that club. My dad said that if I don’t like to see it then I should just not watch it and they both believe that if a fox is healthy then 9/10 times the fox will be able to out run the hounds and hide because it knows all of the little pathways and gaps in the area as it always uses them. Therefore only the weak and ill foxes get caught. My question is will I even be able to do anything about them not legally following practices I.e letting the hounds chase the fox rather than following the trail without any backing or support from the landowner / my family as they feel like they’re in a difficult position

[@Tony-sh7hl]

It’s true most foxes survive. Most huntsmen don’t hunt for the kill it’s just for the thrill of the chase and action.

[@theotheseaeagle]

Unfortunately it’s not only Ill foxes that are caught, cubs are also often killed by the hounds. Plus hunting foxes with hounds is a criminal offence, at least in the UK and they should also be charged for allowing the hounds on your land.

[@Tony-sh7hl]

@@theotheseaeagle How are cubs killed if hunting takes place from October to February. Cubs are born March April time and leave the vixen at 6 months. Keep your uneducated opinions to yourself

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@Tony-sh7hl “uneducated” Haha doubt you even live in the countryside mate or keep livestock. It’s a well known fact the hunt use fox cubs to teach young hounds how to hunt. Its illegal and should not be happening

[@liamcollinson5695]

So because he's friends with the hunters he acts all pathetic and does nothing it's not really a excuse. It's literally ignoring a crime even though very few are ever convicted

[@engineer2480]

This annoying man has just made me get my lurcher ready to go hunting. Thanks for giving me the urge to get out in the cold mate, I’ll let you know how I get on.

[@trisha1427]

Don't bother not interested,just don't come back.

[@fabplays6559]

So long as you don't "hunt" on horseback watching your dog do all the work, it's less apalling.

[@21ADB21]

You're hard mate with your lurcher...

[@rfcrorymacwatp9896]

Oaft watch out the dafty with a lurchers out hunting

[@kenthall319]

Simple, at the meet, quietly and secretly, poison the hounds. Use long term poison. Difficult to trsce back to uou. Hounds are expensive, and without them, a hunt cannot function.

[@zicozaber]

Vile sport. Hats off to those trying to protect the foxes !

[@timmo491]

You can shoot 50 foxes a night with a lamp whats the big deal?

[@CAVEDATA]

Exactly

[@davudmuhic5807]

I am a hunter, and I even think that this way of hunting is cruel.

[@abitofbay2973]

29:40 oh yeah ofc like hunting is so old. We should instead shove chemicals up chickens and eat that instead. So much more humane. Thx for bringing light to me. (Once again sarcasm)

[@geraintthomas2506]

How anyone can believe setting a pack of dogs to rip another animal apart is beyond me. It’s absolutely disgraceful, sickening, and outdated.

[@stokesy887]

It’s natural, more natural than humans going out and having to stalk and shoot them from 100 yards away. Please explain how it’s “disgraceful”, “sickening” and “outdated”

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@stokesy887 it’s not “natural” dogs aren’t part of nature. You have no clue

[@joanapaiva7554]

@@theotheseaeagle dogs are indeed a part of nature and as you have just seen they are pack hunters just like there closest wild relative the wolf.

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@joanapaiva7554 not anymore. Unless your talking about feral dogs. Dogs that will be locked in a kennel for 90% of their lives before being let out in massive groups to rip apart a fox aren’t part of nature. Oh yea and in nature the dogs aren’t being shot once they get too old or are injured even it’s only a minor injury

[@joanapaiva7554]

@@theotheseaeagle sorry but “not anymore”doesn’t all of a sudden disclude dogs as being a part of nature neither does the conditions to which they are kept. I dont agree with the inhumane way in which these dogs are used to kill foxes

[@daniel-jb2xz]

How does he know there’s no gun men ? Like you can pan around the 4 meters around you ,while you illegally trespass and just shout “illegal” like a lunatic

[@jacquithomas6253]

Fox hunting is barbaric and cruel whoever agrees it's right to chase a fox and have it ripped apart is sick I will never understand these vile monsters who take part in this evil cruelty having said this theses morons have no respect for their own horses and hounds

[@darrenrobinson2988]

The only reason that the gunman wasn’t in position is because the camera men were interfering.

[@ybotigchelaar9766]

I think killing foxes is fine as long as you don’t let your hounds kill them. Make it quick and humane.

[@Wow55579]

soon you wont be able to spray flies in your own home without a license

[@Tdr-jv2nc]

I can see why it’s important to protect livestock but going out on horse back watching them get ripped apart, that’s fucked up. Loads of dogs get hurt as well. A lot of the hunters actually breed the foxes to hunt, they are scum them hunters

[@Wow55579]

@@Tdr-jv2nc humans have always enjoyed hunting for fun and violence, The Colosseum, raiding in medieval times... nothing sick about human nature

[@Tdr-jv2nc]

@@Wow55579 Pretty sick killing something for fun. Shows how backward a small group of humans are

[@Tdr-jv2nc]

@@Wow55579 What’s fun about seeing a fox ripped apart while screaming in pain? If you enjoy any part of that then your pretty fucked in the head

[@nojuserichovas5074]

I couldn't think of a worse way to spend my weekend then being in a group with people that have nothing to do, so they chase some people on horses with dogs.

[@maxs28]

Luckily people couldn’t give a fuck what you think

[@megajohnson1984]

Then you don’t understand what’s going on

[@kingwacky184]

Do You support What the people on the horses with dogs are doing then? Bc it is illegal What They are doing. The people chasing them to try and stop them are heroes!

[@megajohnson1984]

@@kingwacky184 I think you have misread what the person has said. They are saying they couldn’t think of a worse way to spend a weekend as a sab chasing people on horses with dogs. Hence why I said “then you don’t understand why they do it” as in the sabs. I don’t support fox hunting

[@jeffbrunswick5511]

"people on horse with dogs" is that the defining feature of these people? Just ignoring the fact that they are breaking the law and getting a thrill out of torturing an animal to death?

[@kaichambers2997]

"we are the figurehead of this tradition ( sic ) " Did any one else see the performative contradiction in this anonymous contribution from the kennels keeper? If he has so much admiration for his quarry and his charges for that matter how is it that he doesn't see the contradiction in throwing a fox that's been shot literally a second ago to dogs hungry enough to rip it's body to pieces? The pernicious effect of this activity and it's public opposition is the heart of darkness.

[@kaichambers2997]

@Gert Bonk My dear Mr Bonk. Such a fitting sobriquet. Seasons greetings to you and yours!

[@ukchris64]

Not really into the ripping fox's to shreds thing, but that guy with the weird haircut is just the sort of guy that gets me riled, I see people enjoying themselves, lets go ruin their day, and would apply that logic to any situation, just the sight of him and those like him get my blood boiling.

[@rfcrorymacwatp9896]

Aww stfu ya rocket

[@k9Issey]

Let’s go and ruin their day? Are you for real?? How about they helped the fox having his day ruined! If you think people enjoying themselves watching an animal being torn apart alive is enjoying, you and them need a serious reality check.

[@rossmckenzie2433]

And we call ourselves a nation of animal lovers???????? BAN THE FUCKING THING.

[@basicallyiquack7908]

Honestly fox hunting should be allowed but not in that cruel way if your hunting get you a rifle and make sure it dies in one shot and not let it suffer

[@jaxareback311]

OK......having no natural predators,I understand the need to regulate the numbers of foxes for their own health....but hunting them with dogs is sickening and I truly believe the people involved or condoning the hunt will be rewarded....whether it be a loved one contracting Cancer or just simply bad luck in their own lives,there is a price to pay for this barbaric behavior.... Shame we can’t just toss one of these clowns to the hounds.....that,I would pay to see...!!!

[@stokesy887]

Jax Are back how is it sickening? It is the most natural way for foxes to be hunted. It’s more natural than a person like me waiting in a hideout for 2 hours to then shoot it without it even knowing I’m there.

[@jaxareback311]

@@stokesy887 the idea of an animal cowering before a pack of gnashing teeth before being torn apart can not be the most humane way to cull foxes...miximatosis would be favourable...and that requires an animal disintigrating before your eyes...just sayin'....!

[@akredfox]

thank you.

[@ehboutdoors6820]

I hunt for food. But I don't agree with ripping up animals with dogs "for fun". Cos' their certainly not eating them after.

[@christiannelson730]

Yea well mate as a hunter you should know foxes are huge problems at the moment. Bet this very people love eating lamb. They won't be happy even if shot the bloody things

[@DjGlenJon]

he was deffo touched as a kid

[@benstone4667]

No hunt sabs have ever been murdered

[@liandrivanvuuren8028]

These people are so disturbing. I can't believe they would just send their dogs out and watch the poor fox being ripped to shreds! It's terrible.

[@marthawilliams5837]

They are explaining in the video how they flush the hounds out with the dogs and then shot them

[@jeffbrunswick5511]

@@marthawilliams5837 They enjoy seeing animals tortured. It is a well known hobby of the rich elite.

[@AlexanderTheEvenGreater]

Masked bandits rampaging around the countryside across private land, screaming and attacking riders and trying to gain control of a pack of hounds when the huntsmen is trying to call them back to keep them away from roads an railway lines is also quite disturbing.

[@spicer878]

It’s not about blood thirst or anything like that it’s about watching the hounds do what they do naturally. Hounds will hunt as will foxes hunt

[@roncatton7101]

Those hpunds are not 'wild animals'..they are under the influence of human training, so they are not natural, or in a natural environment!!

[@xpriveassxheolo2437]

just be a shame of your self if you really think is oke let yourself bite by does dogs look if its still oke

[@spicer878]

@@roncatton7101 you don’t train hounds they do it naturally

[@genericchannelname5085]

while it is true that hounds will naturally hunt animals like foxes, what the hunters have done is trained them, then put them in a large group to hunt one animal. very different to nature

[@spicer878]

@@genericchannelname5085 what are you talking about they are not trained they hunt as a pack because they are a pack animal just look at how wolfs hunt. This comment just goes to show how the vast majority of the population of Britain don’t understand the first thing about hunting with hounds

[@michaelcheevers68]

Was a time I believed in hunting as a way of controlling their numbers , I also believed in ferreting and other forms of hunting. I am now totally against all blood "sports" , not sure why it called a sport when it's so barbaric

[@user-iw4xb3lh5r]

As far as controlling foxes with hounds goes, it's the least effective way of doing it. We persecute thousands of foxes every year in the uk, majority are shot with a rifle, or held with a snare and shot with a shotgun. There is no argument for controlling foxes with hounds when there are far more efficient ways of doing it. With ferreting, it's an extremely effective way of controlling rabbits, it's effective and efficient. And leaves very little impact on the wider countryside. Like it or lump it, we need diversity in our countryside, left to it's own means, we would live in a mono culture bio-landscape where a small amount of species would thrive, and the rest would not. The driving force behind any species is to thrive, breed and dominate. An rspb wetland reserve proved this, they decided to "let nature take it's course" and the entire reserve was dominated by brambles and corvid. We need management and control in our countryside, but we don't need fox hunting. We need effective and humane ways of controlling species, that, by there very nature are extremely adaptable and would cause a disruption to the overall bio diversity of the countryside.

[@pwood6532]

@@user-iw4xb3lh5r I see what you are saying... but I will point out that historically humans dont have a great track record w managing ecosystems.foxes are native and they rabbits rodents etc.nature managed before humans were around.frankly humans are the most destructive and invasive species and there s too many of them...but nobody is suggesting we hunt and shoot them!

[@mothballjim]

22:39 Hox hunting?! No wonder he didn’t understand you 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@theclaw11]

The title is funny, what about the real dark side of Britain like the war in Iraq.

[@liamcollinson5695]

I often think that if someone truly believes in something then they would not ask for they faces to be blurred but they know what they are doing is wrong. And don't want backlash from the public

[@SoiBoi_Kelda1059]

What do u think about whistleblowers? Oh but this is different? Backlash is backlash wtf is you comment

[@AlexanderTheEvenGreater]

If someone truly believes in stopping hunting then they shouldn't wear a balaclava then, but I guess they know what they are doing is wrong. And don't want backlash from the public either. Works both ways ;-)

[@nicevans6827]

Man who holds a shotgun and waves it around whilst loaded doesn’t seem to know he is holding a firearm and tells people they need educating. Just insane. Fox hunting is nothing but sick rich people posturing. If it was truly about pest control, as the lawyer says, they would find a more economic way of dealing with them. People have kept guardian dogs with their livestock around the world for thousands of years as a deterrent to these predators.

[@MsSharon28]

what happens to old hounds or ones that arent good enough for hunting,THEY GET SHOT

[@kenb7051]

Not in the USA they are adopted.

[@MsSharon28]

@@kenb7051 good on the usa

[@bigboredthing]

@@kenb7051 Here the hounds are trained to rip small animals to bits. They are sadly too dangerous to be rehomed. It's terrible, and nobody ever seems to think of the hounds, or the horses for that matter.

[@mewtew8006]

So what? Its a dog.

[@anticoomer]

Hounds and horses are meant to be hounds and horses, not housepets

[@derrybergin6637]

Since the 2004 act aren’t the hunt’s supposed to follow a scent?, and if a hunting party are caught in the act of killing a fox what is the legal charges that they can be convicted with?

[@derrybergin6637]

It’s now illegal to kill foxes so why is the practice still so widely continued even though it’s prohibited- doing a uni project on hunting and poaching within the uk, if anyone can give me their point of view from both sides then that would be greatly appreciated 😋

[@tommothedog]

More than 85% of the public aren't affected by the outcome of foxhunting.

[@skawashers]

Then bring it to the vote in only London suburbs .lets see how much the blood sport effects them by the result...

[@onepup-pr3yl]

@@skawashers Yes because the population of the suburbs of London is just so right on man, like they just have the answers to everything soo cool to be in London.

[@benjones5459]

skawashers how many people in London have had there ducks and chickens killed regular so what would they know.

[@jojo94101]

I'm not affected by the outcome of dog fighting or human trafficking either but I take issue with it because I think of myself as a decent human being who doesn't enjoy seeing misery and pain inflicted on others.

[@jamesdean5976]

More than 99.999% of people aren't affected by crocks either, but we don't hunt them for fun lolol

[@pyro3366films]

29:42 "Research shows the population of foxes had gone down since the hunting ban and not gone up". What?

[@78terrier]

Foxes are more likely to be shot now. A fit fox could outrun the hounds, but it can't outrun a bullet. Also, many landowners would tolerate foxes solely because of hunting. Like it or not, the increase in the number of foxes killed since the ban should be incorporated into a decision on how best to deal with the issue. Saddest of all, there was an option to make genuine welfare improvements. A ban on cruelty (with or without dogs) was proposed - and was rejected outright by The League Against Cruel Sports because they just wanted a hunting ban.

[@78terrier]

Also - see from 20:24

[@paulinedevine2393]

No they're not. Hunts are more likely to take a token shot. I was out every Saturday bar 2 last season and I saw more foxes being killed by hounds than shotgun. That's complete rubbish that even a healthy, fit fox can outrun 20-30 hounds, plus riders and supporters. Did you even bother to watch the video? You people are inpenetrable. Witness illegal hunting and cruelty for yourselves and you'd still find a way to explain it away.

[@paulinedevine2393]

Yeah, I saw the footage. I saw what happened, did you? "We have our guns stationed where we know the fox will run" they're all fox whisperers didn't you know?? They know exactly where the fox is gonna run at all times, shame they can't communicate that to their gunmen.

[@78terrier]

Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well. I mean they're more likely to be shot without hounds even being present, because the landowner has less reason to tolerate the fox. To respond to your comment, "Witness illegal hunting and cruelty for yourselves and you'd still find a way to explain it away.". I believe that the ban is deleterious to animal welfare and to conservation - so I suppose you're right - I would explain it away. Cruelty though, I would not "explain away". Let's not conflate the two issues - I'm in favour of hunting. I do not consider that a predator hunting prey is inherently cruel. If I did, I'd be in favour of getting rid of ALL foxes, stoats, weasels, BOP... etc. For the record - I'm not. And yes, I watched the video. Right through.

[@YochevedDesigns]

If they want pest control, they should put out humane traps, spay or neuter the foxes, and then release them back to where they were found. It's important to have some predators, or else you'll end up overrun with mice, rats, voles, and other varmints that can cause much more damage than a couple of foxes living in the hedge. The few who avoid the traps can produce enough kits to keep the ecological balance going. It works really well with feral cats, so why can't it work here? Oh wait, nobody hunts feral cats for fun, just foxes. 🦊

[@jackearley3892]

Bunch of townies

[@joshuawilliams9954]

And you lot are a bunch of downies

[@robertstewart302]

These are the exact same people who in some countries treat there animals inhumanely, a nations civilization is graded on how it treats their animals, you can clearly see that education has very little to do with intelligence, this is why there are so many deviants, child molesters, narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths within the gentry of England, they have the education of intellect but little to no intelligence

[@jclar3565]

First world "problem". Their efforts could be doing much more good elsewhere. These are just bored urban people looking for a rush.

[@vennemy9025]

If this isn't a first world problem for you, to hunt animals for fun then your country shouldn't be considered a first world country either. Are you living in the 18th century or what??