The Dark Side of Mormon Funerals

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Alyssa Grenfell

Alyssa Grenfell

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A few resources mentioned in the video:
*Mormon funerals explained on my blog: www.mormontrut...
*Plan of Salvation Flowchart: ldsbookstore.c...
*Husbands are responsible for resurrecting their wives: www.utlm.org/o...
*Mormon scripture about the resurrection (D&C): www.churchofje...
*Mormon scripture about the resurrection (Alma): www.churchofje...
*Reddit post about wearing black to Mormon funerals: shorturl.at/zKkgz
*Instagram reel about happiness at Mormon funerals: www.instagram....
*Reddit post about not crying during a funeral: / god_i_hate_mormon_fune...
*Faithful Mormon blogpost about Relief Society planning a funeral: www.reliefsoci...
*Handbook from church explaining burial in temple clothing: www.churchofje...
*Faithful Mormon member explains burial in temple clothes: www.instagram....
*Speech about reverence and teaching gospel at funerals: www.churchofje...
*Guidelines for what to do if a Mormon missionary’s family member dies: www.churchofje...
*How Mormons dedicate gravesites: www.churchofje...
*Recipe for funeral potatoes: www.allrecipes...
*Reddit post: / mormon_funerals_are_ro...
*Reddit post: / venting_about_mormon_f...
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Other resources that may interest you:
*Why I left the Mormon Church: www.mormontrut...
*My Mormon endowment explained video: ( • Secret Mormon Temple C... )
*Mormon garments explained video: ( • Mormon Garments Explained )
*Every rule I followed as a Mormon: ( • Every Rule I Followed ... )
*My Mormon mission was a waste: ( • Mormon Missions Explai... )
*Complete story of my Mormon wedding: ( • Mormon Temple Weddings... )
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@SailorSabol
@SailorSabol 10 сағат бұрын
Saying to not take a break from the mission is so bizarre. Catholic nuns and religious brothers literally vow their whole lives to missionary work and they’re allowed to visit their families fairly regularly. This is insane
@Marr-i9s
@Marr-i9s 9 сағат бұрын
Right! And you are looking at a high level of religious devotion with said nuns and brothers. If the Catholic Church, not known for being the most chill faith to begin with, are outshining you on any given policy that’s when you know it ain’t good
@mimimaitri1
@mimimaitri1 9 сағат бұрын
It seems the LDS church trusts them with the responsibility of missionary work, but doesn’t quite trust them enough to treat them like full adults. Phone calls home, private time, etc. are seen as threats to the success of the mission. A visit home during crisis is too risky because they might not return.
@SailorSabol
@SailorSabol 9 сағат бұрын
@ Yeah, these people also get to choose to go into religious life and it is very few people. Mormons have an expectation for basically all young people to go on missions as the default. Nuns, Priests, and Brother who devote their entire lives to it but still have more freedom than the two+ year Mormon missionaries. Catholic nuns, priests, and brothers get to choose which community/calling/order/place they get to devote themselves to based on what they feel like their purpose is. Mormons have to go anywhere they are send to drawn from a hat and don’t get to choose the community of people they’re around. Catholicism can be pretty strict for people entering religious life but no one expects anyone to do it as the default and there are actually quite a few barriers you have to pass through to make sure you actually want to do that forever.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 7 сағат бұрын
​@@SailorSabol On top of it all the men are pressured to go on missions or they'll not be likely to get married to Mormon women who are indoctrinated to desire men who have gone on missions. Which means if you want to obtain your goal of marriage you HAVE TO go on a mission.
@blewis0719
@blewis0719 4 сағат бұрын
​@@mimimaitri1they must know there are legitimate reasons for them not to return, especially if they run into someone from another part of Christendom who knows The Bible.
@furbiefriend
@furbiefriend 8 сағат бұрын
the fact that, as a woman, you could be a incredibly devout and faithful mormon all your life, and yet would never get to go to heaven because your husband decided, for whatever reason, that he did not want to ressurect you, is such a sad and concerning teaching
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 5 сағат бұрын
or horror of horrors - what if never married?
@birdlyword2
@birdlyword2 2 сағат бұрын
A believer would say it will all get worked out in the end, whatever that means.
@syntex72
@syntex72 2 сағат бұрын
@@helenr4300 I was curious about that as well
@katarinatibai8396
@katarinatibai8396 Сағат бұрын
​@@helenr4300I guess, your father has to pull you into heven in this case, or you never get there 🤷
@bria8481
@bria8481 Сағат бұрын
@@helenr4300I believe she said women who were never married would be sealed to a random man and he’d call them. It’s not a moral failing for women to not get married, only men.
@oncebitton
@oncebitton 11 сағат бұрын
I left the church years ago, but my mother was a faithful member. She wanted her funeral to be welcoming for extended family that were not LDS. The bishopric and some family tried to turn it into a missionary opportunity. Ended up being uncomfortable and exactly what my mother didn't want.
@lynnefox4892
@lynnefox4892 11 сағат бұрын
I attended the funeral of a friend and the same thing happened. Gross.
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 10 сағат бұрын
Wow, I am so sorry to hear that. It sounds like it's completely the norm. I found it very odd how "respecting the wishes of the deceased" are seemingly completely absent from any of the rulebook. Where there is any question of what to do (like veiling the face) it says the living family should choose, not that you should consider the wishes of those departed.
@RevShifty
@RevShifty 9 сағат бұрын
I had an uncle that tried that when his own mother, a non Church member, passed. After a few of us (including his brother (my father) and his own son) met up with him at her funeral and straight up told him that if he didn't cut it out, we'd make it so he couldn't speak anymore, he stopped it pretty quickly. A funeral is *not* the time for that kind of nonsense. Some folks just need a little common sense and common decency reminder sometimes.
@jessabeauty917
@jessabeauty917 9 сағат бұрын
@@alyssadgrenfell This is a practical/legal perspective. When a person passes away many people purport they know the deceased’s wishes and are speaking for that person. I was told conflicting things such as a location to scatter ashes (😳) to burial in masonic (actual 🤣) garb. I was so thankful that I had thought to ask and to know for myself! I was advised to do what I myself preferred, which differed from the deceased’s instructions to me directly (while living). It may have legal precedent.
@scuffedchris
@scuffedchris 8 сағат бұрын
Genuinely curious and not meaning to jab--If you were a bishop of a ward and someone asked to make their funeral welcoming to nonmembers, how would you interpret that?
@AnneHarvey9
@AnneHarvey9 10 сағат бұрын
My best friend passed away 20 years ago this June. I attended her funeral in Cedar City, Utah where she had lived. It was incredibly heartbreaking for me. She was a faithful Mormon, all the temple bells and whistles. I got nothing but sideways looks from all the other people there because I cried my eyes out the whole time. I had just lost my best friend, we were like sisters, inseparable from childhood. I remember the bishop or pastor, whatever he was called, telling me after the funeral service that me crying was such a distraction and a disappointment because there was no reason for me to cry and miss my best friend. I found that to be insulting and rude. He asked me if I was LDS, I said that I was not, which garnard more sideways looks. I just remembered looking at him, and turning around and walking out of the building. For me, it just added insult to injury. It's been 20 years, and I still think about my friend everyday. RIP my beautiful friend Marsha.
@OhJustCommenting
@OhJustCommenting 10 сағат бұрын
❤ :((( I’m sorry you had to go through that.
@AnneHarvey9
@AnneHarvey9 9 сағат бұрын
@@OhJustCommenting Thank you for the comment. 🩷
@MLC-xu3yb
@MLC-xu3yb 9 сағат бұрын
Jesus wept when Lazarus died…
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 9 сағат бұрын
The “Church” of Scamentology is known for this too. Emotional display is “bad”. Also, you should know that your “Thetan” (soul) will return to earth in the birth of a new baby in a random family so no reason to be sad. Btw, because the soul stays the same, the baby is not really a true son or daughter- it’s just an assignment to caregivers. This is insidious because it reinforces disconnection not being such a big deal if/when your relatives cut you off if you decide to leave the cult. 😢
@monongahelacats
@monongahelacats 8 сағат бұрын
That’s very sad. I’m sorry it was a crappy experience.
@amaravazquez8591
@amaravazquez8591 10 сағат бұрын
I remember reading a comment on another YT video about Mormon funerals from a mortician. He had no idea about the temple garments and thought the deceased was an "eccentric baker" LMAO. Can't unsee it.
@lisagrace6471
@lisagrace6471 7 сағат бұрын
haha
@paigegainey7099
@paigegainey7099 6 сағат бұрын
Thank you for this comment, I thought I was losing it. 😂
@knorman717
@knorman717 6 сағат бұрын
Oh my gosh, I just laughed way too hard at that!😂
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 5 сағат бұрын
I'm deceased. But not LDS
@texasborn2720
@texasborn2720 5 сағат бұрын
I'm GenX and to me the Temple clothing reminds me of the old Pillsbury dough boy can biscuit commercials. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5_VpKireb-Wecksi=Er9Zq53fZLqECiTm
@lauramurray8276
@lauramurray8276 10 сағат бұрын
It seems so mean to me to not allow grief. Even Jesus cried when his good friend, Lazarus, died. And, he was about to bring him back from the dead!
@jessabeauty917
@jessabeauty917 9 сағат бұрын
We are supposed to “mourn with those who mourn” as well.
@---zc4qt
@---zc4qt 8 сағат бұрын
Mormonism wants to believe the Book of Mormon...... based on a feel, and yet they do NOT want people to have feels when a person dies.
@Reed-2big
@Reed-2big 7 сағат бұрын
Many have argued that Jesus cried because of what he was bring Lazarus back from and into.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 7 сағат бұрын
They supposedly follow the Bible but the Bible has so many lines about mourning. My personal favorite is Ecclesiastes. It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of feasting, for death is the destiny of everyone; the living should take this to heart. Frustration is better than laughter, because a sad face is good for the heart. The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning, but the heart of fools is in the house of pleasure.
@AidenOcelot
@AidenOcelot Сағат бұрын
@@Reed-2big What did lazarus be brought into?
@ihtibas_ilharary
@ihtibas_ilharary 11 сағат бұрын
My grandma’s funeral was so sad. Ten minutes to talk about her and her life and the rest was church talks and missionary sales pitches.
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 11 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately in reading through all the many reddit posts and in my own personal experience, it's 100% the norm 😔
@Hawther
@Hawther 9 сағат бұрын
I went to a coworker's funeral - she was 25 and died very suddenly. It was so upsetting that I saw so little of this wonderful person I saw every day in what should have been a celebration of their life and an expression of grief from losing her way too soon.
@thr33keys
@thr33keys 9 сағат бұрын
As a never-Mormon, I agree that's very sad. I've been to a number of Catholic wakes, and while they can be really tough to get through, there is something cathartic about the experience.
@mikeshaffer4912
@mikeshaffer4912 8 сағат бұрын
That's denying someone their purging of heavy feelings. You can harm your body bottling up big emotions like that.
@wizardbug4726
@wizardbug4726 9 сағат бұрын
My father died two years ago. One of his favorite songs was Iz’s (Israel Kamakawiwo'ole, R.I.P.) version of “Somewhere over the rainbow”. The bishop wouldn’t let me sing it during the ceremony. Even my devoted mother was frustrated. Had to sing it during the lunch afterwards when people are distracted, visiting, or already gone.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 9 сағат бұрын
Telling you anything? Review lyrics
@TDPhinsTalkAdmin
@TDPhinsTalkAdmin 6 сағат бұрын
@@marquitaarmstrong399what is it supposed to tell?
@lisagrace6471
@lisagrace6471 5 сағат бұрын
I'm so sorry
@bakende1103
@bakende1103 2 сағат бұрын
That's just terrible! At my mormons grandfathers funeral my aunt played a coun try song that reminded her of him. So I guess it's up to the bishop? That's still BS how much the rules do or dont apply with some people and it's not set, but they seem to think it is.
@fugithegreat
@fugithegreat Сағат бұрын
I think with so many of these situations, it depends on the ward leadership and how strict and domineering they are. I've been to several funerals where there were some secular songs sung. Pretty sure that I've heard the country song "Daddy's Hands" on more than one occasion. But yeah, if you get an ultra-conservative bishop they will delight in controlling your every move as much as the Puritans.
@Hawther
@Hawther 10 сағат бұрын
Other Christians believe in resurrection and heaven but the grief is allowed to be expressed as "I will miss them on Earth"
@jaredwilkerson3869
@jaredwilkerson3869 8 сағат бұрын
I’m LDS and have been to many funerals. Grief is most certainly allowed. If you want to know what we believe, don’t seek information from people trying to get famous by trashing their former faith.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 7 сағат бұрын
​@@jaredwilkerson3869 Can you let me know, an Orthdox Christian, when you guys believe the message of the church was lost? Because you guys claim to follow the Bible, yet in order for you to believe that you have to acknowledge that the Nicene Council made a correct assessment of the canon and that the Anglican Church made a proper translation of the Bible as per the order by King James. Which is the very same Bible Joseph Smith had.
@jamestrickington5525
@jamestrickington5525 10 сағат бұрын
If you really believed this how terrifying… some husbands don’t know their wife’s middle name, birthday, their own wedding date, etc…. Watch Mr. Selfish forget his wife’s new name on the morning of resurrection….
@catherinepoteat
@catherinepoteat 7 сағат бұрын
I cant stop thinking about how in Jeanette McCurdy's autobiography, she describes practicing practicing practicing a song to sing at her mom's funeral, and then just getting up there and crying.. AND THEN THE BISHOP asking her to wrap it up for a baptism 💀💀💀
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 6 сағат бұрын
I didn't realize I wanted a Mormon comedy like this where a bishop whips out a neon sign and starts playing walk off music.
@Lu-bk1qq
@Lu-bk1qq 10 сағат бұрын
As someone who struggled with major depressive disorder beginning around age 8, I can’t imagine being Mormon and having to cope with the belief that sadness is the opposite of the faith that consumes every aspect of your life. That would have really destroyed me. My heart breaks for any children in that position. Another fascinating video Alyssa thank you for sharing!
@lilypetal
@lilypetal 6 сағат бұрын
I didn't grow up mormon, but more mainstream Christian. My parents didn't push it on me or anything but I genuinely believed that something was seriously wrong with me for not being able to be happy. Why couldn't I have the joy of the holy spirit like the pastor always talked about at church? I felt such incredible guilt. My depression started at a similar age to yours so you can imagine how distressing it was at such a young age. Anyway, I don't have anyone to share this with irl so I hope it was ok to share here. I hope your MDD is manageable rn, it really is such a difficult diagnosis to live with ❤️
@Lu-bk1qq
@Lu-bk1qq 2 сағат бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear that :( thank you for sharing. I am sure that is a sadly a common experience and it breaks my heart because struggling with mental health is already difficult enough as is. My mom always told me it’s okay to be sad and it’s okay not to know why you’re sad. I try to remember that always and I wish you got to hear that as a child too. Thank you for your well wishes! Wellbutrin and regular exercise have made a world of a difference for me and I am so grateful for it. I hope you are happy and healthy too :)
@jeabo0adhd
@jeabo0adhd Сағат бұрын
Trust me, its debilitating. I know so many people in my denomination who would love to help, including myself. But the "happy face" makes it difficult. We don't want to pry. I was barley hanging on and literally burst into tears behind the pulpit talking about how Jesus lifts you up out of the pit. I felt like I had lost face.
@garythompson2962
@garythompson2962 6 сағат бұрын
As a child of a parent that passed recently, this video is so spot on. As like you, I was born/raised in the LDS church. Went on mission for 2 years, Ricks college, then married the temple. Served in the stake presidency, elders quorum president as well as the high council. At 45 years old my wife and I looked at each other after church on Sunday and said we were done. Very difficult as we had three grown adult children that were all active in the church. We lost our house so that we could pay our tithing (had to make a choice, house or pay tithe). This spring my mom passed, and my brother gave the talk at her service at church and mentioned her once. Needless to say, I was extremely angry. I was not permitted to speak at my mother's service nor participate in anyway except to be a pallbearer. My stories like yours could go on and on. Your videos are so accurate!!!! Keep it going and Thanks for all you do.
@janetbucknell592
@janetbucknell592 4 сағат бұрын
Grief is actually an expression of the love you bore for the person who has passed. You used the phrase "negative emotion" and I dispute that idea. The tears we shed at a funeral, e.g., help to heal the heart by releasing the anguish. I cry with EVERY strong emotion -- grief, joy, pain, fear, love, etc. I had to explain to my young child that my tears did NOT necessarily mean I was unhappy or sad. It is no disgrace to shed tears for someone you love and will miss until you can greet each other in the afterlife. You aren't crying for THEM -- you are feeling sorry for yourself. And that's ok.
@phyllisloforti3015
@phyllisloforti3015 Сағат бұрын
Smart move on your part........They are religious freemasons......in a nutshell. controlling......Read your Bible,,,,,,no families or sex in heaven....sorry to report.
@fugithegreat
@fugithegreat Сағат бұрын
In my experience, the pallbearers are typically just the "less-important" men in the family: the sons-in-law, the grandsons or great-grandsons, etc. who aren't important enough to speak or something. Honorary pallbearers are even less important, because they don't even get to carry the casket. And let's not forget the girls, they don't even get to be honorary pallbearers.
@jeabo0adhd
@jeabo0adhd 57 минут бұрын
I best friend was Utah LDS. His parents lost their house to a tornado and they struggled with several kids but they still payed their tithing so they'd get temple privileges. They also didn't believe in the Adam God doctrine and only confided with my parents since we come from the original 1830 church and would understand.
@blizzard2oo
@blizzard2oo 23 минут бұрын
So much untruth in these accounts. I have been involved in a few funerals as Priesthood leader and NEVER witnessed anything you assert.
@syntex72
@syntex72 10 сағат бұрын
Wow, I was meeting with the missionaries and did as they asked, prayed. I never got an answer, so I did the next best thing and went to youtube. I found your videos and couldn't run fast enough from this goofy shit. Thank you
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 9 сағат бұрын
I say your prayers actually WERE answered.
@fluffybabypolliwog
@fluffybabypolliwog 6 сағат бұрын
@@mattskustomkreations Best response ever to someone who avoided that madness! 👍
@heidisorenson4678
@heidisorenson4678 10 сағат бұрын
My husband is still a TBM. When he was a bishop he was amazing. He conducted many funerals. The focus was on the deceased. He allowed the families to celebrate their loved one. His remarks were comforting, funny at times, people of all faiths loved it. He is still asked to speak at funerals, it wasn't all about the gospel. I am proud that he knew how important it was to celebrate people and not a religion. I left the church in 2018. I love that we have mutual respect for each other's beliefs.❤❤❤
@fugithegreat
@fugithegreat 56 минут бұрын
Some people do get it right ❤ he sounds like a nice guy
@partqfavor
@partqfavor 10 сағат бұрын
Love seeing you in your Mormon Drag King era 12:22
@Tessa_Gr
@Tessa_Gr 9 сағат бұрын
I feel like a woman cross-dressing in the "sacred" temple clothing on the internet directly after spilling coffee on temple clothing could be the quickest, surest way to offend pretty much every true-believing Mormon (from all the things I've seen so far of Mormonism). Didn't seem to be intended that way but was kind of hilarious to watch
@unclesheogarath
@unclesheogarath 8 сағат бұрын
Lol, that's funny😂
@paigegainey7099
@paigegainey7099 6 сағат бұрын
Underrated comment 😂😂
@midlifemenomorphosis
@midlifemenomorphosis 8 сағат бұрын
I had a reoccurring nightmare for about 7 years post Mormonism where I had died but wasn't really dead and my family was trying to dress me in burial clothing. I kept trying to wake up and tell them that I wasn't really dead and to not dress me in those clothing because I didn't believe in it. I would always wake up from those nightmares with palpitating heart and anxious feeling. I haven't had that dream in a number of years now and I have made it abundantly clear to my children who have also left the church that I am never to be buried in mormon clothing or have any sort of lds service, luncheon, grave consecration or any other mormon ceremony when I pass.
@paigegainey7099
@paigegainey7099 6 сағат бұрын
Put it in writing. So simple. ❤
@TheMysteriousgirl9
@TheMysteriousgirl9 5 сағат бұрын
You probably need to do full resignation from the list like Alyssa did.
@pugnado3
@pugnado3 5 сағат бұрын
My mom was excommunicated as a teenager. She was put on a flight to another state. While she was on that flight she found a letter from her mom saying she was never welcomed back home. They now have a good relationship, as my mom is a very forgiving human. Some of our family (who are LDS) are less forgiving and understanding to my ex LDS family. In 2022 my 12 year old cousin passed. My family was not allowed to join the funeral in any way. It hurts to hear them preach love, when they can't love their own family.
@lalita9833
@lalita9833 10 сағат бұрын
The whole ideology about “taking the gay away” in the after life clarifies SO MUCH in the show My Husband is Not Gay…it’s also so f-ed up
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 10 сағат бұрын
Agreed
@Catt7000
@Catt7000 10 сағат бұрын
Yes first thing I thought of!! Really makes it all make a lot more sense for sure… I mean as much as it can make sense lol
@lalita9833
@lalita9833 10 сағат бұрын
@@Catt7000haha exactly as much as it can
@---zc4qt
@---zc4qt 8 сағат бұрын
There is a WIKI page that tells that Joseph Smith WAS a bi-sexual. I bet the Mormon church will NEVER tell people that!!!!!!
@Hypothermic_Ghosty
@Hypothermic_Ghosty 3 сағат бұрын
i was crying at my great grandma's funeral. i had adults tell me that i was being selfish and by missing her i was saying i'd rather have her on earth in pain and suffering. i was seven.
@Sam-ge7px
@Sam-ge7px 11 сағат бұрын
Mormon funerals were always particularly fascinating to me. I'd love to see a video talking about the patriarchal blessing, aka mormon fortune telling. Love your videos Alyssa!
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 11 сағат бұрын
That's a great idea! It's such a random part of Mormonism. I'll add it to my list of ideas!
@catacombkid1985
@catacombkid1985 10 сағат бұрын
I don't remember any of my patriarchal blessing. I think I read it once I think the dude channeled the revelation for the wrong person because it was definitely not about me. That's all I remember
@OhJustCommenting
@OhJustCommenting 10 сағат бұрын
Yessss. Haven’t thought about this in ages, but as a teen I already knew I wanted to leave the church. However I was very curious about my patriarchal blessing, I was considering staying a bit longer just to get it then go 😂
@shinankoku2
@shinankoku2 10 сағат бұрын
I haven’t watched this yet as I’m working. However, Mormon fortune telling: is that the part where the man says some random s* that comes to mind? Because I always called that Mormon spell casting. And I’ve always said that, when we cast spells when playing D&D, we had the good grace to know that it was make-believe.
@EsmereldaPea
@EsmereldaPea 9 сағат бұрын
@alyssasgrenfell - it looks like the temple clothing is made of polyester - at least the outer layers. I wouldn't think any crematorium would allow synthetic fibers to be burned due to pollution and toxic fumes.
@terrfomp92
@terrfomp92 9 сағат бұрын
I recently had a discussion about my parents about their death and funeral (they were informing me about their will which they had established shortly before). Regardless of the fine details, they want their funeral to be a celebration, an occasion to reflect on their legacy. Good food, fellowship, and joy; that’s how they’d like to be honored.
@charlotter8266
@charlotter8266 9 сағат бұрын
Laughed out loud when you spilled your coffee all over the temple clothes! I love and enjoy your content so much, please keep up the good work!
@LongJourneys
@LongJourneys 10 сағат бұрын
I've only been to one funeral as a postmormon. And it infuriated me how much is was about the Church and not about my loved one who had passed away. The Church totally hijacks people's lives and identities, even after they die.
@anthropomorphicpeanut6160
@anthropomorphicpeanut6160 11 сағат бұрын
Dropping coffee in your temple clothes is accidentally hilarious
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 11 сағат бұрын
I know, I had to laugh when that happened 😂
@codetech5598
@codetech5598 11 сағат бұрын
I'm not a Mormon and have never drank coffee.
@OwlyFisher
@OwlyFisher 10 сағат бұрын
​@@codetech5598 is this relevant
@nadineevans5195
@nadineevans5195 10 сағат бұрын
Thankfully, they're white so you can bleach them. This sounds so similar to how I was raised as a Pentecostal. I'm no longer. What happens to a woman who stays faithful to the church but her husband isn't 'worthy'?​@@alyssadgrenfell
@klimaquatsch1787
@klimaquatsch1787 10 сағат бұрын
@@alyssadgrenfell God is now angry with you.
@becka_tics5166
@becka_tics5166 10 сағат бұрын
As an exAdventist, I grew up hearing that weren’t supposed to grieve the same way the world grieves because we have faith that we’ll see our loved ones in heaven. It never reached to the extent of Not crying at funerals, but you always had to couch your grief in the hope that you’ll see your loved one soon. When I left the church, I went through a period of mourning for the loved ones that I used to believe I’d see again - it was kind of like losing them again
@Tessa_Gr
@Tessa_Gr 9 сағат бұрын
That's very understandable. I think many people who used to believe in an afterlife have a hard time coping with the idea that death could truly be the end. To me it seems weird that just because you know/believe you'll see your loved one again you're not allowed to openly grieve and be sad. If your spouse or child were to go on a ten year spacetrip without any possible contact, would you not still feel sad even if you would 100% know they'd come back? Even if you think the second coming will be in your lifetime, you will be seperated from your loved ones for a long time, it just makes sense to be sad about that.
@jaxv4102
@jaxv4102 7 сағат бұрын
Never joined the Adventist church but attended for a while. Also have family in it. After one service I got up and said this is it… I cannot listen to this Ellen g white crock no more. Glad you got out. P.S. I must say I let a lot of great people in that church.
@danielb2286
@danielb2286 9 сағат бұрын
You’ve covered the resemblance to Masonic ritual and it always really does just feel like the rituals I did in Greek life that felt super deep and important when I was a drunk college kid.
@liannedarcy7379
@liannedarcy7379 11 сағат бұрын
Thank you for addressing this part of Mormonism. It’s something that fascinates me and I’ve not seen any other content about it. Love your videos. From a 34 yr old nevermo in the UK ❤
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 11 сағат бұрын
It's a ritual that there isn't a lot of coverage on, I agree. I hope you enjoy hearing what I learned in my research!
@Kris.Strange.The.Screwth
@Kris.Strange.The.Screwth 10 сағат бұрын
So I inundated myself in Mormon culture for like 6 months and I noticed they are ALWAYS smiles, it seemed like an act to me, but as I got more into it, it seems like a cultural thing. Like the missionaries that came to my house for that period of time acted different with me once they got comfortable with me, but when I would meet them at the church they were different people.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 6 сағат бұрын
Same. For me though it was all smiles until I asked one on a date and she made sure to passive aggressively know that she wanted blonde kids and there wasn't going to be a second.
@Kris.Strange.The.Screwth
@Kris.Strange.The.Screwth 5 сағат бұрын
@ That's interesting because while I never got any female missionaries, I had one slip up and say I'd have trouble dating because "There's a lot of white girls" either insinuating I'm basically racist and won't date someone cuz their white or because of the obvious racist undertones attached to this organization. Another racial slip I noticed was one of the missionaries slipped and referred to minorities (In this case black ppl because I live in the hood) as colored, and another time a famous rapper here in Houston died (Beatking) and one of the missionaries I was hooping with assumed he got shot in some kind of gang activity. When Beatking wasn't even on that type of time. He was a club song maker and never promoted violence. He died probably due to his weight, but I digress.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 4 сағат бұрын
@@Kris.Strange.The.Screwth I'm in Cali so I'm not sure to what extent but they do seem looser with the dating here. We went for ice cream, I did all the gentlemanly things, paid, walked her home but I didn't think anything of the blonde kids comment. Then I got the email that we were in different stages of life (I was working but she was going to go to the local college). It was bizarre but I respected her wishes. I didn't find out the full history until a few months later. My friend in high school (football captain, half Mexican) dated a Mormon girl, I didn't know all the details but our friend group did find out they had sex, so I can only imagine how bad it was for her side in retrospect. Sweet girl, I hope they're doing okay. If she had gone through I might still be in it today. The missionaries did try to get me back for a bit, I would have been a big win since I was a former Atheist. I was just looking for a community at the time, I found one later in the Greek church where I fit in with most of the immigrant groups there now. Oh also in the California's churches there's a lot of Pacific Islanders. I did notice they specifically paired 1 white, 1 ethnic quite frequently but the white guy did most of the talking.
@phyllisloforti3015
@phyllisloforti3015 Сағат бұрын
Mind control, much???????? Little white drones...with aprons...OH my. cant make this crap up.
@keisbuddy
@keisbuddy 8 сағат бұрын
I remember having a friendly argument with a Mormon on the subject of organ donation. His argument that people shouldn't donate their organs after they die was based on the idea of a physical resurrection and the idea that one should not make things more difficult for their god by allowing one's body to have parts removed. That said, thanx for explaining about the prohibition against "negative" emotions. My mother was raised in the Mormon church, and even though she was no longer Mormon, she was very clear and very strict about how we children were not allowed to experience certain feelings. It never made any sense, but she must've absorbed the idea very deeply to impose it upon her offspring even though she'd left the church.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 6 сағат бұрын
BUT THE ARMLESS MAN GETS HIS ARM BACK THIS MAKES NO SENSE
@Andrey-i4i
@Andrey-i4i 5 сағат бұрын
😊😊😊😊
@ReverieOfThorns
@ReverieOfThorns 5 сағат бұрын
I've heard that as well as the same thing about cremation. My mom however (despite being a very devout LDS member) highly encouraged me to be an organ donor and also wants to be cremated (even before they changed the handbook) so I find that funny.
@philliberatore4265
@philliberatore4265 13 минут бұрын
​@@ShockgueyMakes as much sense as you get put together, transformed to 30-year-old you, but there's not enough time to change your clothes.
@kamdabble9276
@kamdabble9276 7 сағат бұрын
I’ve never seen my grandpa cry Not even during when his own daughter suddenly died at 22 in a fatal car accident. I remember how often he held pride to that ability of his and he always credited it to how he is privileged to never feel sorrow cause he understood heavenly father’s plan. All I can feel looking back at him saying that in my childhood is sorrow for all the emotions he has never allowed himself to process when he truly deserved it. And now that’s interpreted into my own inability to properly regulate and actually feel my own emotions, which I am glad I am allowed to feel even if it hurts to learn all this so late in life
@berthanadrossos9802
@berthanadrossos9802 6 сағат бұрын
My sister-in-law died from ALS. During the funeral the bishop said that she had important assignments in heaven. Her children were only 18 and 21. My brother was heartbroken. Also my friend died suddenly and left behind a pregnant wife and two young sons. The same statement was made from the bishop. Sad .
@Linda-l2b4g
@Linda-l2b4g 11 сағат бұрын
You are right on. I'm so mad at myself for being part of that culture for so long.
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 11 сағат бұрын
Thank you for watching! Honestly Mormonism is so good at indoctrinating young people I don't think anyone can be too mad at themselves for being involved. It's what we were basically brainwashed to do since birth.
@Linda-l2b4g
@Linda-l2b4g 6 сағат бұрын
@alyssadgrenfell I was born into it. Never questioned it. The temple experience was anything but beautiful. I still live in Utah. I do envy you for leaving. I really have enjoyed your videos and your courage.
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w 11 сағат бұрын
When my brother in law passed away I noticed the funeral at his church was more like an evangelical revival meeting. The Pentecostal service had a short eulogy from his wife and there was a lot of worship music and a sermon from the pastor. The pastor later old me that's how funerals are done in his denomination.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 10 сағат бұрын
Joyous Homegoing🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤
@ciaociara
@ciaociara 11 сағат бұрын
Why did I just assume Mormons had a regular Christian funeral lol
@vanillatwice
@vanillatwice 10 сағат бұрын
My grandma was active mormon until the day she died. Her funeral was held at a regular cemetery, we met there together as family and friends. We did have a kind of church "service", but it was just a prayer and prepared "talks" from a few close members of the family. I had already left the church and everyone knew I was an atheist and I was welcomed there as anyone else. Maybe it's more strict in Utah or something, but seemed fairly normal for my family both members and non-members.
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 9 сағат бұрын
Haha - of course not -what the hell were you thinking?😂
@ReverieOfThorns
@ReverieOfThorns 5 сағат бұрын
​@@vanillatwiceI've been to 4 LDS funerals through my life and all four were the same: a church service and open casket viewing with some talks about God and then some musical numbers. Then after that, they do the cemetery consecration and burial and whatever. Also wasn't allowed to wear black, and crying was highly discouraged as it implied you didn't believe in the resurrection and eternal life. It was so stupid. I was 7 the first one I went to (on my birthday no less) and I got yelled at numerous times for being upset that I was at a funeral on my birthday and also because the funeral scared me. The last one I went to was just a few months ago. I wouldn't have gone had I not been close to the person that died (as that was the first time in nearly 5 years I'd been in a church). But it was very similar. I got a lot of weird looks as I showed up in all black with a crimson jacket and my hair dyed hot pink. So many people acted like I shouldn't be there 😕 it was alienating. The family of the deceased seemed to find me disrespectful as well because they avoided me the entire time yet spoke to so many other people who had a similar closeness I did. It was kinda sad.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 10 сағат бұрын
My family and I were xlds by the time my son passed of cancer. Our Stake President and his family attended his funeral. Asked him to speak last words at my son's homegoing. He did. Years ago. Still ❤ him to this day. Great soul.
@China-Clay
@China-Clay 5 сағат бұрын
Beautiful!
@bougiellama4266
@bougiellama4266 9 сағат бұрын
20:10 My brother is gay, (technically he’s my half brother- we have different dads) but I was talking to my dad and he was like “why don’t you like the Mormon church? What if we took you to ours?” And I responded “nothing is gonna “fix” it, it’s not the church itself it’s the beliefs, my brother when he dies WILL NOT be healed because there is nothing wrong with him, and I don’t even know what him not being gay would look like, because whatever it is… IS NOT HIM…” he responds and says “you know I’ve never thought of that” I’m like… are you serious 😂 you just took it at face value and didn’t try to think about it even for a second? No of course you didn’t because if you did the whole Mormon belief would come crashing down.
@Ultraviiolencce
@Ultraviiolencce 6 сағат бұрын
As a black girl from Boston who was not raised Mormon at all- I love watching ur videos it’s so interesting how ppl can live such different lives in the same country
@snoranora
@snoranora 10 сағат бұрын
Very important to WRITE down your wishes if you can no longer make medical decisions for yourself and for when you die. There is a legal document called “5 Wishes” that goes through and has you write out your final wishes and assign a “health care agent” to follow through on these wishes if you cannot. Food for thought❕
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 5 сағат бұрын
Mine contain "no evangelical minister!"
@sleepycalico
@sleepycalico 10 сағат бұрын
"four rounds of resurrection." 😂😂And being resurrected in those ghastly wedding getups is hilarious. I remember being amused that Egyptians supposedly believed they would get to have the use of the things they were buried with in the afterlife, but at least they were buried with goods that still delight us with their beauty and craftsmanship.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 6 сағат бұрын
Oh god, Joseph Smith's obsession with Egypt explains the clothing pracfice so much.
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 5 сағат бұрын
King Tut had something like 25 pairs of gilded sandals in his tomb, from toddler size to adult. His sandals had extra cross straps because his feet were missing certain bones. Early orthopedic shoes!
@Nemo2oo5
@Nemo2oo5 10 сағат бұрын
Do you think you'll ever do another wedding where you renew your vows? Have a party your way, serve all the coffee and alcohol you want? Even better, espresso martinis as the staple drink😂
@xoxoRanniiaaxoxo
@xoxoRanniiaaxoxo 8 сағат бұрын
i think she did mention wanting to do that in the video she made with her husband.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 6 сағат бұрын
I hope she invites all the ExMo influencers and they all do speeches.
@museumghost
@museumghost 8 сағат бұрын
26:40 I really feel for you, Alyssa, when talking about the guilt you feel about your grandma waiting in the parking lot during your wedding ceremony 😢 I know she loved you and would have been happy to do anything for you on your wedding day, which unfortunately is a grace that the Mormon church wouldn’t return to her
@Mothspiral_Art
@Mothspiral_Art 5 сағат бұрын
when my grandma (who i was never close to) died, i was happy that my dad's faith helped him through it, but on the other side, the way most others in the family so heavily repressed their grief was definitely not healthy. i was there for my dad, and i think the presence of me, my siblings, and my mom was good for him, even though im not mormon anymore.
@idontneedachannelthanksyou7292
@idontneedachannelthanksyou7292 4 сағат бұрын
Ai sponsorship is 😬. For everyone who doesn’t know, generative ai (what this text box is) is A. Wasteful. Some estimates say a single text prompt is equivalent to getting rid of a cup of water. B. Not factual. It knows nothing of what is right or wrong, it is basically an advanced version of when your phone suggests the next word. If you ask ‘is the earth round?’ 99% of publications say ‘yep, earth is round.’ So it will mash what all of those publications said together and spit that out at you. It’s heavily biased in this way. It’s likely that if you ask it a question about the mormon church, it might just give you what the mormons say. C. Unethical. All of this text is stolen. Oh, it does images too. All-or most-of those images are stolen. It takes all the text and all the images on the internet and when you ask for say, an image, it will mish mash what it has stolen into some shitty image (yeah, anything good out of an ai is a fluke). D. Probably stealing your data. Private my ass! You know what the most valuable thing is to this company? DATA. There’s a sneaky clause somewhere saying “improve our ai with your conversation” I would bet E. It’s a reskin of gpt3 with different filters. Filters which can be tricked-or, hear me out now, you could read a blog post from a former mormon or watch a detailed youtube video about your mormonism question. The information from the creator is probably already in the ai, why not get it from a more polished source? Thank you for coming to my ted talk. Alyssa, if you’re reading this, skip the ai sponsors next time. (Love your videos, but this sponsor was not the play.)
@alexfogg8228
@alexfogg8228 8 сағат бұрын
I’ve been so curious about LDS funerals ever since I went to my LDS uncle’s funeral 10 years ago. He died suddenly and unexpectedly, and was a big man in the community. Everyone was all smiles and “we’re going to see him again!” As a nevermo, I was shocked but honestly thought it must be nice to have that belief. Probably provides so much comfort. Thanks for sharing this.
@agentcallisto
@agentcallisto 4 сағат бұрын
As an exmo myself, that belief DOES provide a lot of comfort, until you deconstruct and then are forced to confront ideas you never have before. I’ve had to re-grieve my deceased family members because at the time, I bypassed my sad feelings with the blanket of religion. It’s been complicated.
@Cpt_Risu
@Cpt_Risu 11 сағат бұрын
Not being about the dead person and able to recruit at the funeral definitely screams cult.
@EduardQualls
@EduardQualls 4 сағат бұрын
It happens in a lot of evangelicalist funerals, too, especially amongst the minor Baptist cults.
@agentcallisto
@agentcallisto 4 сағат бұрын
That’s very common for all religions, actually. I’m a funeral director and I’ve managed services for Christians of all denominations, Jews, Muslims, Baha’i, and various types of Buddhists. Especially when held at the church building, the funeral service will be religious first and about the deceased second.
@Cpt_Risu
@Cpt_Risu 3 сағат бұрын
@@agentcallisto That's crazy.
@Rowan.Evander
@Rowan.Evander 6 сағат бұрын
This is such an important topic but the ad for an ai app completely threw me off. AI is theft, y'all.
@EleiyaUmei
@EleiyaUmei 10 сағат бұрын
20:45 I'm pretty sure that's the reason why Stephenie Meyer didn't want vampires of color in her Twilight adaptations
@shawnpeterson3386
@shawnpeterson3386 4 сағат бұрын
I'll bet you're right.
@lili_is_me00
@lili_is_me00 10 сағат бұрын
Just watched ur vid about coming out of the LDS church and it only being a year. Ur so fucking strong Alyssa!!! I can't begin to imagine what all of that feels like. My heart goes out to u and thank y'all for everything y'all do. Ur making so many sacrifices but it is for the greater good of the world for sure. I think ur Ex Mo content is great for opening people's minds to perspective. If everyone thinks their religion is more right than the others, then what makes anyone right? Empathy, compassion, and perspective r so needed in this hell scape. Thank u 💪🏾💪🏾
@amyhayes2988
@amyhayes2988 5 сағат бұрын
My mom's brother died when she was on her mission, they wouldn't let her go and pushed a lot of guilt onto her to make her stay. Its over 40 years later now and its still hard for her to talk about
@AaronMoore-h6j
@AaronMoore-h6j 9 сағат бұрын
It’s fascinating to me, I have a degree in biblical and theology studies (so mainstream Protestant Christian) and we were given the opposite direction for how to lead a funeral. Probably because of how informed about grief psychology the lecturers were, we were told to use the ritual and sermon to help break down the emotional barriers. We were always to keep the light of hope intact but to rhetorically make the loss real to help the deceased’s loved ones accept the depth of the loss. If there was weeping, it was considered a sign of success since it meant the ceremony had helped move them onto the path of active grieving instead of numbness or denial, thus initiating the healing process. I mean, famously Jesus wept at the death of Lazarus even while he had (supposedly) the power to raise him.
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 5 сағат бұрын
My experience at seminary too. Though i also consider a funeral done well if sharing stories from the deceased's life brings a smile or laugh at the memory.
@lisagrace6471
@lisagrace6471 5 сағат бұрын
This sounds like a breath of fresh air and reason.
@haleylogsdon8791
@haleylogsdon8791 23 минут бұрын
Why did you study the Bible and theology ?
@venacollier1430
@venacollier1430 10 сағат бұрын
That's blasphemous to think that "the husband" gets to resurrect you!? Only Christ has that power! What a crock!
@AngiesCousin
@AngiesCousin 9 сағат бұрын
So many men can't remember their anniversary date celebrated annually. How in the world would they remember wife's name, said once? Not a chance.
@verenakremer6748
@verenakremer6748 7 сағат бұрын
You can only be blasphemous with regard to the religion or church you yourself belong to. Thus if I (or apparently you) would say that, it would be blasphemous. If a Mormon says it, it is not.
@FishareFriendsNotFood972
@FishareFriendsNotFood972 4 сағат бұрын
The church making your Grandma sit in the parking lot during her granddaughter's wedding........how deeply, staggeringly sad.
@hamilcross
@hamilcross 10 сағат бұрын
as someone pursuing a career in the funeral industry and a big fan of your channel, i’m sat!!!
@aultraman
@aultraman Сағат бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge about the LDS. I have a neighbor that is a member, and I have learned a bunch from him; and I can confirm what you stated in your videos. Keep up the good work.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 10 сағат бұрын
Crying washes out your heart pain.
@_isbored4012
@_isbored4012 11 сағат бұрын
I really thought I knew a lot about Mormons but every video I learn more with you!! DId not know you had special funerals too
@allicanseeispink
@allicanseeispink 10 сағат бұрын
I only knew about Mormons from the musical, and I came across your channel from the BYU video. Now all your videos are appointment viewing for me 👌
@nikofoto
@nikofoto 43 минут бұрын
Sorry to hear about your grandmother. My condolences. 🕊️ Great video as always.
@acertainredpanda1115
@acertainredpanda1115 9 сағат бұрын
The temple garments look so cheaply made. You would think religious clothing would be high-quality.
@jonsoto8233
@jonsoto8233 8 сағат бұрын
It's costume shop quality and not very ecclessiastical.
@monongahelacats
@monongahelacats 8 сағат бұрын
They are so cheap looking in person and made of cheap nylon and polyester.
@GothDogs
@GothDogs 11 сағат бұрын
As the only ex-mo in my family, i'm very scared my family will mormonify my funeral. I swear i will haunt them all for eternity from the spirit prison/ Telestial kingdom (Im gay, so this is their expectations for me). I have made my wishes clear, but they think what is right is greater than what a "misguided" person wants. So still nervous.
@jameslowery320
@jameslowery320 10 сағат бұрын
Have you looked into whether or not you can leave advanced directives or such that are legally binding?
@InfinityTimes-sj6xh
@InfinityTimes-sj6xh 10 сағат бұрын
That’s hard, maybe you should put your wish for a non-mormon funeral in writing in your will?
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 10 сағат бұрын
Contact an attorney. Your life your wishes.
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 6 сағат бұрын
The concept of a gay ghost is interesting because most time specters are kept that way due to anger and grief. For the most part they're usually sexless.
@Henri_Hilarious
@Henri_Hilarious 8 сағат бұрын
23:50 this is so disgusting. this person was a child! They should never be treated that way. And the culture of repressing anything that isn’t faith promoting is psychologically damaging for everyone involved.
@MackAttacks97
@MackAttacks97 7 сағат бұрын
Oh I know, I wanted to go back in time and give that bishop a piece of my mind (or hands) when I heard that. I cannot abide.
@Kendramac
@Kendramac 10 сағат бұрын
I went to 2 Mormon funerals last year for my grandma and step mother. It wasn’t really that bad. My grandma was dressed in her temple clothes, but her funeral was about her. I said the prayer to start the service, and I’m not LDS. My uncle gave a really nice eulogy and there was maybe a few minutes about Mormonism, but mostly the old Mormon guy who got up and spoke talked about how involved she was in the church. And the ward put on a great lunch for the family afterwards. My step mom decided to donate her body to medical research so there was no body. Her gay best friend gave the eulogy. There was again a brief bit of the Mormon doctrine but not that much. I mean, she was Mormon so it seems appropriate since that is her hope for the afterlife, you know? The only silty rule was that there was no secular music allowed, so we went to the gymnasium to watch a slideshow with her favorite secular songs playing. Her ward didn’t have as good of a lunch provided, but there still was one. Everyone from the churches at both funerals were very kind and inclusive.
@Kendramac
@Kendramac 10 сағат бұрын
Also, people acted sad, it was fine.
@ashleyreed3865
@ashleyreed3865 Сағат бұрын
That's the thing though, that's bishop roulette. The only time they are "not that bad" is if the bishop is ok not following the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saint's handbook to a T and/or that's really what the deceased person wanted. I know you don't mean it this way, but this can feel like a dismissal to those who have been hurt by the church's systemic exploitation of death for proselytizing. I do think in recent years the church has either chilled out more or the people themselves are just more relaxed than what the church would prefer. So sorry for your losses. ❤
@Kendramac
@Kendramac Сағат бұрын
@ thanks for your condolences. I definitely think the whole thing is a bad system, just sharing what I’ve experienced first hand. Especially because these are very recent funerals. I think it has a lot to do with these being wards in Colorado. I know the Mormon culture gets much more intense the closer you get to Salt Lake City.
@GoingBrokeinTokyo
@GoingBrokeinTokyo 11 сағат бұрын
12:14 first all the men would pop up, LIKE DAISIES!!
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 11 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂 what a great reference
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 5 сағат бұрын
It looked like a horror movie with Dunkin Donuts bakers.
@averymilner157
@averymilner157 5 сағат бұрын
I really really love your channel and videos. I have to say I’m really disappointed by your decision to take a sponsor from an AI company. AI has environmental effects that rival that of fossil fuels. Because the servers used to train and run AI need to be cooled with water, the use of AI ends up consumes a huge amount of water in a way we can’t truly understand. I think the normalisation of casual AI usage is highly dangerous, especially since the health of our climate and water supply is getting worse and worse. I know you didn’t mean any ill intent with the sponsor, I just wanted to share my thoughts and encourage you to do your research on the environmental impact of AI, as well as the damage that AI reliance has the potential to cause. You’re doing a great job, and I look forward to every video!
@lilyclay7489
@lilyclay7489 4 сағат бұрын
It’s obviously your choice but please reconsider promoting generative AI. Even if it’s more private any generative AI still causes environmental harm and harm to human creativity and ingenuity. You have a very influential voice on here as ppl are looking to you on some of the most personal topics, so even your unrelated adds could be super persuasive. I am genuinely surprised to see you support a tool that stops people from developing critical thinking skills in so many areas of life, as that skill seems so important to deconstructing a harmful religion and being able to dissect misinformation. Obviously my opinion doesn’t matter, it’s your channel. But I was really surprised to see it.
@christihorowitz7589
@christihorowitz7589 11 сағат бұрын
The title was enough to get my attention
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 11 сағат бұрын
I think it's pretty dark that funerals are moments for missionary work and that too many tributes to the desired discouraged 😒😒
@7000fps
@7000fps 11 сағат бұрын
Well it just sounds like you traded one cult for another. Just that atheism is a more relaxed chill cult. it is strange how atheist try SO hard to convince EVERYONE else to be on their side, what are they worried about? nothing matters 'cept flesh.
@childofcascadia
@childofcascadia 10 сағат бұрын
@7000fps Um. You obviously dont understand anything about what a cult is or what atheism is. Im a deeply spiritual atheist. Yes. We exist. All atheism means is you dont believe in a god in the religious sense. That doesnt exclude believing in anything else, whether an afterlife, psychic powers, spirits or what have you. And I personally believe everyone has a right to have a faith as long as they respect others. What you seem to be referring to are militant atheists. In my mind they are just as disrespectful of others as Christians. But "atheism" just means "doesnt believe in a god". Nothing more. Please look up the definition of cult as well.
@maxwatson8782
@maxwatson8782 10 сағат бұрын
@@7000fps its just a matter of personal belief. As someone who was raised with a religious mom and an atheist dad, i was told that unless i went to church with her i was a bad kid and shouldn’t speak to her but my dad accepted my atheism with open arms. For a lot of people it seems like religious beliefs for some people are just for a moral high ground in life. Atheism is only a cult if atheists try and recruit people, and majority dont. 9/10 times it’s religious people that try and convince us we’re not going to whatever version of heaven they want to sell to us
@FactsNotPropoganda
@FactsNotPropoganda 10 сағат бұрын
@@7000fpsWhat are you talking about? Exposing the lies within a cult is not “being in another cult”. You should teach a class on trying to gaslight. Lame and inaccurate take.
@lindsayschmidt2177
@lindsayschmidt2177 7 сағат бұрын
I went to an evangelical funeral earlier this week and was so put off by how the entire service was basically dedicated to proselytizing rather than memorializing the deceased. I left evangelicalism years ago and I had forgotten how awful the funerals are. I felt like getting up and walking out.
@CheyenneTerry970
@CheyenneTerry970 18 минут бұрын
I know of a preacher who lost both his wife and his son in a tragic car accident and he preached their funeral and he still somehow used it and still somewhat uses it to proselytize and share the gospel. It’s very jarring for me and it throws me off every time I hear it from him. If I were in that situation, I would have been too devastated and I probably would have a really hard time talking about it going forward. I lost my grandson last fall and even now I’ll still somewhat get emotional when it’s brought up.
@sammieyork6585
@sammieyork6585 9 сағат бұрын
Such a good, well thought out video. I will never stop loving your content
@johnpippin7782
@johnpippin7782 11 сағат бұрын
Glad I found your channel and learning so much about this “religion” since I grew up with Mormons and had a temple across the street from my high school
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 11 сағат бұрын
Love your podcasts btw. Think of them as online classes. You would have been and are a great teacher.❤🎉
@BouncyBrown
@BouncyBrown 8 сағат бұрын
wow i guess i was lucky. when i was growing up, our Mormon ward had more personalized funerals. still "happy" though. one family got in a car accident and the dad and 8yo son died. at the funeral they played the son's favorite song which was the Smashmouth song from Shrek ("hey now, You're an All-Star..."). very bittersweet.
@jacobduncan2142
@jacobduncan2142 3 сағат бұрын
My LDS grandfather was in the ground before I was informed of his passing. I was in college and already estranged from the church. He left me plenty in his will, but also made clear I was not worthy to attend his service. Really cemented my dislike for the Church.
@RavenaDenver
@RavenaDenver 10 сағат бұрын
I was in one of the reservation sweeps Kimball did. They told us about the White skin thing. I didn't want it and in my family culture we don't like them (Mormons) since they killed us and poisoned us and stole our birthright. There was a Dine girl though and she was really trying to pray her brown away. She was obsessed with it and kept matching her skin to the foundations (that never matched us at the time) in the stores. I hope she got over it. That stuff was so cruel. I'm glad I ran away and got the hell away from them. Even at 7 years old I knew this stuff was nuts, I don't get how grown ass people buy this lol.
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 9 сағат бұрын
That’s awful. Makes me sad actually that she couldn’t embrace her own as-is beauty and tried to conform to those deluded whackjobs’ views.
@carolinv3695
@carolinv3695 9 сағат бұрын
can you do a more specific video about the role of women in the church? love watching you videos
@nathanharris8896
@nathanharris8896 6 сағат бұрын
I remember my cousin giving a talk that preached the plan of salvation for his mother's funeral. He was admittedly a missionary at the time, but it still gave me the creeps. It also didn't help that I had finally decided the night before the funeral that the church wasn't true 😅.
@DoctorBella
@DoctorBella 10 сағат бұрын
I would love see a video on what Mormons believe and think about women that do not ever get married.
@debbiedonovan8362
@debbiedonovan8362 3 сағат бұрын
My 2 times getting sealed to 'less the men' (oh sorry Mormon). I still don't know my 2 ex husbands names! And I married both RM's, bishops sons, with a proper resume! Guess what both those men divorced me to hook up with a side piece! Cheating is not allowed right?? Unless a worthy priesthood holder! Spot on- love your content!!
@kduffin33
@kduffin33 9 сағат бұрын
I knew a Mormon who passed away very young and suddenly. They had a celebration of life a few days later. I was shocked to see a number of people who knew her and went to the celebration of life just two or three days after her passing were smiling and looked happy in every photo. They were a brand new parent, and I can only imagine the pain that those closest to her must have been feeling. I can understand if you believe you’re going somewhere better that you may feel comfort knowing your loved one is in a better place, but it did seem a bit odd to post such happy photos and smiling faces just a couple days after this tragedy. It seems like they were forced to repress whatever true feelings and emotions they were having.
@janevirgin4336
@janevirgin4336 6 сағат бұрын
When my dad passed away in 2009, we had his funeral at my local mormon church. We didn't have any hymns sang, it was country songs that resonated his life and what he valued. He wasn't LDS and never went to church, however, he had the biggest heart of anyone I've known. He didn't just practice to live worthy, he actually lived it. I miss him still and know that I'll see him in the afterlife and he's taking care of all my dogs and cats that have passed.
@EvieStevie-Ahgase
@EvieStevie-Ahgase 8 сағат бұрын
I got to a Russian Baptist church and at funerals it’s totally fine to cry. At the end of the day you lost a loved one, but then in the funeral ‘after party’ we remember the dead persons life which usually has more smiles but it’s totally fine to cry as well. The person that died went home to the Lord and is now in a place that’s free of pain (and when they are old it’s even sweeter because they are reunited with their loved ones). It’s a sad event but also a joyous one. And to the Mormons who say it’s not ok to cry at funerals… Jesus wept when Lazarus died.
@kz35193
@kz35193 6 сағат бұрын
I can't imagine not being able to grieve at my loved one's funeral! I lost my dad to cancer in my 30's, he would never be a grandpa to my 2 (then) baby boys. And while 2 friends sang a song during the service, I lost it and wept. Everyone could see and hear me. To this day (many years later) I look back and realize that those few moments of utterly losing it were essential to my grieving process. This mormon religion seems so oppressive and demanding.
@coyoteink
@coyoteink 8 сағат бұрын
When I was young I took a short cut through a graveyard and saw a mormon funeral, for years I told me what I saw I had no explanation for what I saw. The crazy guy in town told me I saw the government experimenting on the dead. Stuff like that. Then I was told about mormon funerals and I was like "That's exactly what i saw!" I had no idea we even had mormons in our small town. (I bring this up cause what I saw was mormons marrying dead people to each other.)
@jaxv4102
@jaxv4102 7 сағат бұрын
Huh? I’d love to hear Alyssa give an explanation of this one.
@birdlyword2
@birdlyword2 6 сағат бұрын
That's ridiculous. Mormons don't marry dead people to each other in a graveyard. They only do that inside temples.
@EsmereldaPea
@EsmereldaPea 9 сағат бұрын
17:50 - so they have a hard time re-creating form from ashes but have no problem recreating a missing limb from . . . nothing???
@sarahedwards2
@sarahedwards2 5 сағат бұрын
I drink my devil’s bean juice before my afternoon walk (even though it gives me diarrhea within the hour) and then sit down to watch your video.
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 9 сағат бұрын
You saying that missionaries are discouraged to attend a funeral during their mission gave me a cool idea for a mormon movie. Two mormons on a mission, doing their mission stuff, when one day one of them gets news that a family member has died. He tries to leave to attend the funeral, but his companion and mission president try to stop him so he sneaks away with nothing with him but his missionary outfit to travel across country to attend the funeral. His mission companion catcjes up with him and tries tp convonce the protagonist to come back to the mission. On the way they habe some adventures and silly situations. Could be cool comedy.
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 9 сағат бұрын
It would only be good if they decide to quit that shitshow at the end.
@mimisezlol
@mimisezlol 10 сағат бұрын
Yknow, this made me realize I've never been to any sort of Christian funeral; I've just been to the initial\* portion of a Hindu funeral adapted to comply with New Jersey law and the northeast's climate. I just can't find it in me to look on the bright side of a death, especially in place of mourning. \* In the part of India my family comes from, a funeral comes in two parts. The first is meant to untether the soul from the body to go on its journey to get judged for its next life. The second portion, which is akin to a wake, is held 13-15 days later depending on family tradition; that's when you start talking about the person and what you remember about them. The idea is that in the realm of like, souls and gods and such, an hour there is a day on earth. You can only talk about the dead person when you can be sure that they've reached judgement and been reincarnated.
@1tribble
@1tribble 8 сағат бұрын
I have Mormon friends so this helps me understand them better. I could never be a Mormon because I am a strong woman, but somehow it fits my friend and her husband.
@meganjohnson998
@meganjohnson998 Сағат бұрын
I started learning more about Mormonism when one of my classmates (who was Mormon) passed away, so this will be a very topical video, thank you
@rabenfedersonnenhut
@rabenfedersonnenhut 3 сағат бұрын
"Jesus is about to come again" was a very good phrasing I needed today.
@the_SeaUrchin
@the_SeaUrchin 4 сағат бұрын
I love your videos but an A.I. model sponsership is very dissapointing, since it's trained on and steals from actual artists and intellectual properties without consent and without having the appropriate copyright licenses:( Still great video though, just the sponsership...
@melithegamer
@melithegamer 4 сағат бұрын
please don't use Ai to ask questions it's in fact very biased and dangerous
@kat-lu1bx
@kat-lu1bx 3 сағат бұрын
as a trans person the fear of your family burying you in clothes you hate hits a little close to home
@agentcallisto
@agentcallisto 5 сағат бұрын
I’m an exmo funeral director with over a decade of experience in the business. This will be a fascinating crossover of my interests! Just started; I’ll add some more thoughts when I’ve finished.
@ellefrankiemack
@ellefrankiemack 10 сағат бұрын
New alyssa content during my luck break? Oh happy day!
@beesmith3294
@beesmith3294 6 сағат бұрын
lol me as a nevermo confused with the TBM acronym - thinking “what do tunnel boring machines have to do with Mormon funerals?!” 😂
@alphabetsoup5587
@alphabetsoup5587 8 сағат бұрын
Even if you believe strongly that you will see a person again, it's still sad to spend time away from them.
@snoranora
@snoranora 10 сағат бұрын
Also, great video! Your content gets into the juicy stuff. And you make me laugh while doing so 👏
@cheycstarr
@cheycstarr 11 сағат бұрын
thanks for another great video!❤️❤️
@mailill
@mailill 8 сағат бұрын
"The men will pop up first" - and in my mind I see them popping up like little mushrooms from the earth
@Shockguey
@Shockguey 6 сағат бұрын
Imagine you get to Mormon afterlife and you don't get revived by your husband but by Joseph Smith himself. That's right, you're now one of his millions of celestial concubines.
@mailill
@mailill 6 сағат бұрын
@@Shockguey Oh no!!!!😬😱 New fear unlocked!
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