The Dark Side Of The Plant! - From The Stash Podcast Ep.160

In this episode we discuss the the dark side of the plant.
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[@ckrampen22]

To see how far y’all have come, separately and together has been pretty cool to witness… I usually hate when content providers run ads but I legit get hype when y’all run ads because I know how long yall have been grinding. Much love

[@kevindelray1094]

Thank you for keeping this real. There is so much tendency today to live in an echo-chamber and only consume the things that we want to see and hear. It's important to remember that reality doesn't work that way and that not everything is always coming up roses. The plant is not perfect, and it's not right or good for everyone, but as you all pointed out a couple of times, there's more good for more people than there is bad, but, as with all things, it's important to think critically and to be honest with one's self about those thoughts.

[@KushByTheBush]

You guys are the future. This hobby and community haven’t reached where it’s taking off to! love you guys

[@mammakush420]

Great conversation! The positives definitely outweigh the negatives. Growing has brought so much joy and fulfillment into my life

[@mdspider]

Great conversation. Some conversations, no matter how uncomfortable need to be had.

[@rosslehmkuhler923]

One of the bad sides of this plant is jail in my state. But another epi this time, thank you.

[@willmack3308]

Same here😭

[@rosslehmkuhler923]

I'm from Nebraska. If you get caught here, you go straight to jail. @dreid3630

[@pickerelhunter]

Bought my first nickel bag at fourteen…been a daily smoker for over fifty years ….no health issues in all that time….at seventy two I’m strong and fit and the mind is still is keeping up 😀

[@annsmith1928]

Goes to show, cannabis is good for us!

[@robertcook4590]

Awesomeness as always fellas you guys hit the nail on the head

[@MYBUDZTv]

Great conversation guys, per usual. Can't wait to see what, 2024 has in store for the community!

[@diegorootsman3864]

Nice year bros! The OG Tripod of KZbin. Great content 4 sure

[@stevenlink7992]

Good talk today boys, thank you. I appreciate you 3.

[@Crawdaddy1420]

Moving from Denver CO back to the south was a tough one. After feeling free it’s very hard to go back.

[@jaybird634]

We are still learning alot about this plant . I would say moderation is key . That is what works for me though . Everyone has different tolerances . God bless , Happy New Years , and peace be with y'all

[@torrencekrepps757]

I ran a grocery store for a few years and thats were my journey started in 2008 and had a bad fall of 20ft and broke my back and lost my taste and smell and short term memory kinda messed me up but 2019 is truly when I decided that I wasn't going to take anymore strong pills which ended leading me to the streets and this is truly when I had enough and started growing my own meds

[@davethestalker]

7:56, I just got a notification from their discord, strange shows about to go live. I wonder if they’ll talk about you guys I would bet someone salary that they will well done gentleman as always.

[@alanv2161]

Good show. Thanks again great information.

[@ValdeDarkorbit]

When Chris says aight imma pull up some notes, you know it's gonna be a good one🤣

[@RMGenetics]

Love how you approached this ep. Personally I consume for med purposes. It helps my pain, nausea & more....but it has to be the right terps or it could cause the opposite of intended.

[@doomryder8317]

I appreciate this video a lot. I took a long mental health break from social media through the holidays, but I’m back and catching up on videos. So much of the dark side of things comes from an INDIVIDUAL’S specific experience. If you have a personal or family history of addiction, then ANYTHING that gives you dopamine can become addictive. So maybe that means you watch how you use anything that gives you a dopamine hit, especially social media. Seriously appreciate you guys.

[@Crawdaddy1420]

Also I love my blumats & have used them for years! I’ve got some tips if you want to holler Rob. Family is from Fremont.❤

[@carlosm6759]

Perfect podcast wen I’m in the garden

[@Growinggolfing]

Man, one time I thought I smoked too much weed. Then I thought, I’m gonna scale it back and not smoke everyday…..Worst mistake of my life.

[@LoyalToTheMicrobes]

This was a good important episode I agree with Chris here. There are negatives. We talk extensively on the positives and science but we cannot forget or fail to remember the negatives and adapt to those negatives the best we can or are forced to.

[@pete6724]

I've been using cannabis since 1978 because i had a head injury and have add, ptsd and other crap going on in my head, i can not operate my life with out cannabis or i have to take main stream medication and that stuff make me go sideways and uncontol my self.

[@PerfectGardensTV]

A few years ago I met a woman where her son did a high concentration dab and they constituted As why he had a nervous breakdown and committed suicide so far there's about 5 or 6 people that have been have had a nervous breakdown and committed suicide after doing high concentration dabs I recently had an interview with a scientist talking about have different terps are produces when plants go through different stress. Either the terps or the heavy metals/solvents in the wax could be the actual reason why the nervous breakdown is happening to such a high degree. This was a good talk guys

[@Hipsters_N_Hippies]

29:22 Josh (strain central) yeah I miss that guy too. I still check in with his Instagram and other stuff just to see if anything comes up.

[@Cannakev24]

When I added the outlets in my lung room for my two tents, I have it so each tent has its own breaker in the panel box. And each breaker is a GFCI one just to be extra safe

[@DirtyWhiteApe]

Very interesting topic. I have experienced a very negative effect from smoking too much I could handle on a few occasions. One of those times was very scary and I was vomiting and having a panic attack from being too faded in a public place. I was in the bathroom crying and feeling sick and scared. For a long time after my military service I would get very stressed and paranoid smoking it. I would smoke it sometimes in party settings or hanging with friends just by habit, that's what I did, and it wasn't pleasurable at all. What changed this feeling for me was accepting it and using it in very specific environments. I won't smoke if I'm going to a public place or party setting. I will only smoke if I'm in a very comfortable place and if I'm intending to do something productive such as exercise in the basement or make beats/music on my computer. I use it as a tool now rather than a recreational drug for lack of a better name. I've learned to harness the stressed out feeling and paranoid feeling as a motivator to do something I need to be doing. There's a reason why I'm getting paranoid. Am I doing something that I'm ashamed of? Am I being a lazy piece of crap? Am I being a bad neighbor who has a unkept yard? Once I figured it all out and explored why the plant is making me feel that way, I became much more comfortable and responsible using it.

[@kentfrazier6683]

I just know from experience that I can’t do sativas! The increased anxiety that comes over me is horrible! It does not go well for me if I overindulge in sativa!

[@unclejake1476]

There isn't much difference between indica and sativa these days with all the cross breeding. There are studies going on that are showing that anxiety may be more terpene related. Similar studies showing that many of the effects that were believed to be sativa or I eica are also actually terpene related. I will try to find a link but there are sativa's/indicas with very similar terpene profiles that produce very similar effects.

[@kentfrazier6683]

I’m starting to figure that out! I’m rather fond of the older grow strain than I am the new ones though!

[@carloscalderon2291]

⁠@@unclejake1476you’re referring to todays hybrids, you’re also speaking on how long term cannabis use can make anxiety worse. Sativa / indica is entirely terpene dependent how a sativa dominant will have high pinene with little to no linalool & an indica dominant will be the opposite. Todays bud has been hybridized to have as much as possible to feel the best & true sativa/indica is usually from landrace strains. Only clarifying

[@torrencekrepps757]

But definitely enjoy watching your videos guys it's truly been great watching each one of you guys before each one of you guys join together and truly build your business and grow together ❤️

[@gobelinle6301]

I suffer from chronic depression and severe anxiety and my only relief is the Herb, specially Indicas for that matter

[@Germinator1971]

I love cats too Rob, I have 2.

[@canna_nymph]

As a long term consumer I’ve had to acknowledge how it intensifies my ADD and my executive functioning challenges. Noticing this tho has helped me be more disciplined in how I consume. We just all should reflect on its uses and its impact because I think it can be really subjective to each person.

[@TheGreenBasement]

Everyone has a personal response to the plant. I consume every day to every other day. Purely in the evening and purely for the enjoyment of it. I don’t live with pain or anxiety. I just enjoy it. My husband on the other hand gets significant medical benefits. He has anxiety and it normalizes him, he lives with pain and it helps him. There do seem to be some short term memory issues for him, but the good outweighs the bad. My real love is growing it, and I love growing it for him. I have tuned my grow into a virtually waste free grow. I grow hydroponically. I don’t use medium. Just net cups and neoprenes. All I have to replace each grow is the neoprene collars because they get stretched out. I do flood and drain, I have two tents each with a 40 gallon reservoir. I change them every other week and only dump About 5 gallons of unused water each change. I use water soluble nutrients, so no jug waste. I have solar panels on my house, which covers almost all of my electricity consumed for my entire home.

[@Virginia_cough_factory]

Very thorough show! Thanks guys!! 🙏Happy new year!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@the_lone_dabber710]

Being 32 and having smoked since 8 years old/ having an abundance of product the the average smoker never even see since 15 years old. I can attest that there are some negative aspects to cannabis. Not so negative that it would ever cause me to stop consuming cannabis completely, but absoultely enough to need to take breaks. As for brain development, i feel that is case sensitive. As i have been a dirt track racer since i was 4 years old and cannabis never once negatively affected my ability to win races. Its often said that cannabis slows reaction times and i find the opposite to be true personally. As chris stated i get an almost lazer focus after consuming as the cannabinoids counter act my adhd. I will say being depressed and smoking can be a very negative thing to do. As it can almost make you forget about the depression/finding the solution to said depression. Great episode yall ❤

[@Munchy421]

i recently had a little tent fan from amazon, one of their off-brands, which seized up after just a few weeks and i feel so lucky i noticed it in time, because it was so hot that it stayed that way for hours after being unplugged.

[@alexm4567]

Have a good diet, exercise and consume wisely ,like don't take a strain which makes hard work for you, when you have shit to do!maybe have 2 or more strains for different times of the day/one low strength for getting you started for the day and one body relax strain for evening/night. There is generally something for everyone now days 😊

[@untrainedastronaut]

another banger boys!

[@noconsentgiven]

Excellent episode❤👍!

[@DottyCatpee]

Nice one gents. A little balance is always a good thing and not everybody is bold enough to go there. I know a young guy who suffered with psychosis and the green defiantly made it worse. Had the plant been not been prohibited we could have had studies much earlier and not had to learn that lesson so painfully.

[@GregDunne-zf2ep]

I'm 63 I've had collapsed lungs and now I have under 20percent lung copassitey but the oil out. The seeds is good for crhones

[@chrisyepes5843]

Love you guys!! Keep up the hustle!!

[@timbaker266]

I really liked Robs information today

[@Crawdaddy1420]

Big organic soil beds for the win.keep that soil alive just like in nature.

[@CriticoolHit]

"Prohibiting my ability to produce" is just being class aware. The less an oligarch gets from me and the more I take from them the better.

[@cyberdyne9480]

🤭

[@joeymusacchio9816]

Not all that controversial, cancer patients are not always told to smoke an oz a day. There are specific effects and negatives that counterbalance the paradigm when considering doses for a patient, whereas recreational use is somewhat different. Dosing for recreational use is more subjective than a dose suggested by a doctor for a patient because they are more informed decisions when compared to a personal choice such as "how many drinks to have at the bar?".

[@Kingfamily_2003]

Great video 🤙

[@ChiefPeef]

I'm struggling to just take a T break. I've never been able to take a break since I started, which was about 5 or so years ago and im only 28. I started on shatter and wax and didn't smoke flower until I got my medical card about a year later. I can't keep myself busy enough to stop smoking, my dopamine gets too low

[@willmack3308]

Hey, keep trying. Another KZbinr, Cewpins, said to try just smoking once a day, preferably not first thing in the morning. Let the 20-23 hours be your tolerance break.

[@andythicknoodle]

It’s really all about discipline. Wishing you the best

[@andythicknoodle]

@dreid3630 Manage the plant. Don’t let the plant manage you

[@georgem.6136]

Pigeons loves that group lol, Parents against Pot! Don't bother going to look unless you want to get angry lol.

[@vernlunsford4449]

You guys are awesome. Another fine show. Yeah Buddies.1

[@richardskull5279]

All the water I use to grow is returned when I dry, cure and consume.

[@kennovel3398]

61 years young. Been smoking since I was 8. Good vs bad, I have has SEVERAL MAJOR surgeries , NOTHING RELIVES pain in certain area of the body ( patients needs. , everyone needs different canabanoids ) .. Allergies play a huge role into the small amount of people that are NOT able to consume.

[@hlphilpott]

Have you ever had cancer? I researched that ppl who use weed on the regular don't get cancer

[@kennovel3398]

@@hlphilpott Degenerative Bone disorder. . Went under Double radical Mastoidectomies at the age of 11. Several corrective surgeries with meshing supports in 2003. Currently I am opioid free for three years due to pain pills thrown at me my whole life. Was never supposed to live past 30. WEED, My specific set of canabanoids are a complete game changer for me.

[@noconsentgiven]

​@@kennovel3398Word❤!

[@Shipinthewoods317]

I've broken over 100 bones, both my legs twice I've relearned to walk 3 times. No I don't need milk is just if your gonna be dumb you gotta be tough I reckon, anyways cannabis doesn't take away the pain but it sure makes it more tolerable.

[@sudanwilliams2350]

​@@hlphilpott....Wow really where did you hear that I don't have any health issues and I also have been smoking weed since about 7 and I am 59?

[@comfortablynumb9342]

My Stash Blend is supposed to get here Thursday. I can't wait to use it. Is it just for veg, just for flower, or for anytime?

[@willmack3308]

I use about 3-4 times a week and my biggest negative is the guilt of being in prohibition land. But anxiety, blood pressure and depression are all down. I mostly vape little “medication doses” I call them 😂😂😂😂

[@jacemarler6883]

For outdoor you're talking Mendo Dope boys plants, which are really small trees😊

[@noahsgarden7072]

I grow but dont smoke. I love the plant and the culture but 99% of the time being stoned is not a good thing for me. Honestly it makes me sad how paranoid and panicky it makes me but god damn I love growing

[@Speedles33]

Everyone just like every plant is unique

[@michaelsia8305]

Here for another fire pod ❤️‍🔥

[@vance7354]

Shit biggest downside/darkside i have found so far is the cost of the damn seeds. But yall have covered that lol

[@malcolm2.03]

First! Much love from the Bronx!

[@Josh-bw4pt]

OK so lately when I've been consuming to much of usually the same strain i get anxiety about getting a headache because I had really bad headaches back a couple months the ago from consuming too much and not exercising and eating unhealthy..I have to let my brain reset and take a break..also just switched too vaporizer so hopefully no more headaches and good sleep

[@trevorsmith3947]

Brodie said he was on PEDs playing COD lmao!!!

[@jimbattista1120]

I ordered that humidifier a few days ago. With a few other things. Happy New Year (~);}!!! Thanks for sharing yiur knowledge.

[@zzzxxzzz3248]

It takes away my ambition .

[@Gilky781]

great topic guys!!

[@DanJonesShow]

10:00 yea we are def seeing more THC sensitive people , myself included. I have found that type 2 canna (mix of cbd and thc) is very effective. Best of both worlds. Euphoria, anti stress pain relief without the heart rate increase the anxiety the paranoia the down sides. It's amazing how cbd, cbg bind to cb1 and cb2 along side of d9. It's like it was made for both at the same time how they balance each other perfectly on the receptors. Ben from Ben and Jerrys is doing cana and I love his quote "type 2 is the future of cannabis" /soapbox

[@Professionalminutestealer]

If you like type 2 check out flow gardens g.b.o. i mainly dab and that stuff gave me some nostaglia with the skunky garlicky smell and really great taste. Really worked well with me so i liked to keep it around.

[@DanJonesShow]

@@Professionalminutestealer ha right on yea very familiar with flow. TBH, Holy City Farms Cake Ballz and Blunicorn are my top choices for "dispo" bud. I recently crossed a Type 1 Atlas GMO with Flows Grapefruit Type 3 and the F1s have been insane. Juicy terpy and tall like Grapefruit, dark sticky and relaxing from the GMO. It's very balanced, probably 2:1 cbd:thc based on feel alone.

[@willmack3308]

Type 2 is definitely a game changer! Strawberry wedding cake from Holy City Farms is my favorite, with Side Piece #2 by WNC a close second

[@willmack3308]

@@DanJonesShowBlunicorn is awesome! I pretty much love everything I’ve tried from Holy City Farms.

[@Professionalminutestealer]

@@DanJonesShow I've been out of the loop for awhile I'm gonna have to check out Holy city

[@T-Dogs]

I will add that I think some strains can give you anxiety and I think excess caffeine can trigger it as well. both together can trip you out for sure

[@gsfriendlytreesmmj1165]

I've been smoking for the last 40 years. If it's an uncomfortable situation when you smoke, don't smoke end of discussion

[@TheAubreePWI]

People do smoke fenny to get high so I have no idea how that person you are talking about says it will have no effect and you can't overdose. Seems weird to quote that person and ignore real world usage of fenny.

[@CertifiedOldguy]

I am disabled and I am getting into growing my own medication I have a 2x6x6 closet how many plants should I grow in my space

[@minnekannabis1]

Hey! That guy, Pigeons, looks an awful lot like that guy who stole the deer head from that gas station! 🤣🦌

[@Pigeons420]

😂

[@tommycurtis1335]

Happy New Year🎉

[@alienrobot5451]

Great topic. I wish you had touched more on respiratory and oral health as potential "dark sides". P mentioned Willie Nelson switching to edibles and I am currently making the same transition for related reasons. Other methods of consumption have definitely contributed to some problems in my gums, throat, and lungs for example. We often talk about how this plant has fewer of these downsides than some other substance, like tobacco, but that can lead us to thinking that the downsides basically don't exist with this plant...which they do, unfortunately.

[@robertcook4590]

Does anyone think what pigeons said is kinda like a happy drunk or an angry drunk ?

[@machiavelligaming9755]

I think you were asking for help w the blumats rob? Sustainable village literally FaceTimed me through any problems. I’d hit them up. If you didn’t want to go directly to them I have decent exp w them. I have a 55 site system as well as 4 blusoak tape setup.

[@lf1899]

Its all interconnected to your multiple microbiomes and the chemical reactions that are taking place. Adding different elements to your body will cause different things to happen based on the levels of the chemicals in your body, the levels of many micro-organisms that are in and your mental state/health. I think Huberman, like many in the profession oversimplify the results. There is no way a few studies can tell the whole story, whether it be chemically or mentally. If you see good results and it outweighs the risks its all up to personal preference, but at least let us have the freedom to make our own decisions on what to consume for our health.

[@ikontrolcod]

If you have to worry about using too much water or wasting it. MOVE out of where you live and go somewhere where you can live off the land

[@MinnesotaHighLife]

What gives me anxiety is waiting for the next crop to finish. lol

[@ohmimprovement5767]

What mic is that pigeons? Definitely buy a new one!! It kinda looks like a lavalier mic but sounds very cheap. Get a shure mic!! They're my favorite, I do vocals as a hobby.

[@agabla]

fintanyl can be vaporized so think e cig liquid not sure on carts

[@Edward-THC]

For me, the dark side of the plant is the underside of my thick ass canopy.

[@garycsfunlife]

6 gallons a day per plant. Mine average about a gallon a day each. If that sometimes I just have a hard time believing that they legitimately take 6 gallons each. I think that's a gross overestimate

[@garycsfunlife]

Yes, it's legal where I live, but if you have differing numbers I'd like to hear what other people are actually watering

[@AlienFruitsGarden420]

What kind of camera do you guys all use?

[@agabla]

I live in texas was arrested 5 years ago for possesion of controlled substance thc 2nd degree felony because of the amount in the car.( homie sold carts)he got a 5 years sentence for 43 vape pens. i got 5 years probation for the one in my pocket. total cost of probation 13,000$ and 500 dollars in u/a fees. i will finally be off probation may 9th. I consider myself very lucky to have got deferred so i wont have a felony conviction. I dispise the people who run this state yet love its beauty. They want to take my rights away for something so small. while on probation i cant use firearms ive lost the right to defend myself and my family also just to go have fun at the gun range and hunt.

[@ScottyWalker420]

My grows go dark side week 6 flower, gets hard as hell stems and trichomes vanish for a week then they pop back up after my ptsd climaxes, then I starve the shlt out of them until harvest.

[@mattadams7031]

Anything can be mentally addicting but not everything can be physical

[@Apeninja732]

Common Side affects: are hungry, happy, sleepy.

[@GrowerTemmzy]

Id wanna see yall 3 run warzone that'd be lit! Smokin n chillin and shiit you could play with a fan here n there would be dope

[@terryskorczewski4727]

Is stash blend similar to recharge

[@dylandiaz3381]

Isn’t there no genetic difference between indica and sativa, doesn’t how you harvest it affect the trichomes making them higher in thc, th a,etc or lower , like a late harvest would produce a couch lock.

[@KyleTheShaman]

The genetic topic is a little more complicated than that. But the longer you grow out a plant can definitely affect the levels of cannabinoids present at harvest, usually more sedative the darker the trichomes

[@PerfectGardensTV]

So if I take a high concentrated Dab I get seizures

[@MrM0saic]

I get anxious when I get down to a pound……..

[@StanMNdirt]

For an accurate evaluation of the long term effects of cannabis consumption one need look no further than Willie Nelson and Tommy Chong. I am 72 and was introduced to the plant in 1970 so I could offer some insight as well. The way I look at it I’m 72 and Willie is 90 and still touring. Tommy is doing comedy shows in his 80’s. Mick and Keith are still touring at 80. I think we’ll be alright. With that said the party ended decades ago. Today it’s about the medical effects with the added benefit of a good buzz.

[@Charlie-zj3hw]

I'm 50 yrs old 37 yrs of daily consumption the weed and these days doesn't get me high long maybe 15 mins.. high THC doesn't mean you feel it .. cannabis these days does smell better might look better put back in the eighties and nineties they didn't breed out all the essential Cannaboids because all they looked at was the THC %.. the only way I feel high is when I eat it and I have to eat 400 mg

[@vincentellsworth7905]

all psychedelics, and cannabis to a lesser extent, are HEAVILY influenced by the users' intention going in...if they want to feel less pain they will etc. when they dont have any intention (most people most of the time) they do nothing (the laziness stereotype)

[@shanetalboom5166]

That last one didn't feel like so much of a dark side of the plant as it is a dark side of states and governments not listening to what the majority of people that live there want. Not that there is a light side to that.

[@hydriodic]

My bag of stash blend is clumping really bad. Is there anything i can do to reverse it or i just need to buy another bag? Love the product btw, just near impossible to measure correctly this way.

[@timpage5021]

Be careful not to put a wet spoon in there and store it where humidity is the least . Barring that I’d get a cheap pestle to press and grind the clumps so you can measure it out better and not waste it . Pestle is only a few bucks at bath and body or Walmart .

[@hydriodic]

Didn't even think of a mortar and pestle. Great idea!! Thank you!

[@carrillospeed]

After 50 years of daily consumption you may find your perspective on life has improved and your anger issues have subsided

[@gangofgreenhorns2672]

Pro-Cannabis Podcast: "We've actually never done an episode just talking about the bad things." huh, lol