The Evolution of Genetics! - From The Stash Podcast Ep.173

In this episode we talk the evolution of genetics.
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[@comfortablynumb9342]

Great show guys. I'm a little older than y'all, 50, and I remember when we bought whatever weed we could get and we were happy to have it. I only knew about brick weed until 94 when I smoked Northern Lights. That was the first time I smoked bud with a name. Soon after that I found out about Purple Haze with a hippie couple who also had blonde hash. Wow. That's when good "crippy" came around and I found out about seedless buds. So I'm pretty happy with being able to grow my own now, and know I'm getting decent genetics. We've come a long way. Y'all got me curious about growing some triploids. Thanks.

[@gympump9766]

Monsanto move, stay away from triploids

[@eagle1492]

I'm trying to find what I was smoking in lower Michigan in 1988. Any ideas please post. I'm 53... and live in the country side

[@mkgallagher2]

A little over 50 too. Lived in WA back in the day and pretty much the only names we had for weed was: chronic and skunk lol. Now that we have strain names and I grew Northern Lights for my first grow ever. After harvesting and smoking the NL it became a very familiar high and taste. It made sense since NL was prevalent in the PAC NW and western Canada. As far as bag seeds go, take advantage because the genetics can be EXTREMELY good. You just never know! Grew some Burmese Kush from bag seed outdoors last summer. Difficulty was moderate and THC was only about 14%. Best body high ever from a 50/50 though. I'd rather have a great but not too strong body high than get mentally bombed at 30% THC. I guess the older you get you appreciate the sedative effects more than the cerebal buzz.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

@@mkgallagher2 I've always preferred a body buzz too.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

@@eagle1492 I'm from Florida so I can't help you with stuff you had up north. But I hope you find the strains you seek. What are you looking for specifically? I'd love to find some of the old "creeper" that I didn't feel for about 5 minutes and it hit like a truck, boom, super stoned. When I laid in an easy chair I felt like I was sinking, falling down backwards. Unfortunately I think my tolerance is too high now and I won't ever get to feel high like I did as a teen. I took a year break once, not by choice, and when I smoked again I got good and high but not like I thought I would. Smoking wax gets me super high but not the same way and it never lasts long, and making it seems like a pain in the arse. I grow my own buds now, and usually have a couple strains going. I have 4 different ones in the seedling stage now and a Westport Grape Juice about 3 weeks from harvest. That's probably the best bud I've ever grown, it's incredibly sticky and frosty.

[@Superlow2015]

So years ago I got a jar of a skunk #1 the smell was so strong I will never forget…it was throughout the entire house and even the garage. I have never gotten bud like that again! Would kill to pull that off at home!

[@brianfavaron4782]

You youngsters crack me up I started 1973 smoking Columbian gold , Thai sticks and more good Mexican that bad Mexican. Not to mention the American mean green .

[@bryanhayes67]

Such a great topic ,i am a true landrace lover, and the genetics of the plants today are not what we had in the 70s,80s, and we grew as a kid in Cali plants, which were more natural I think we have over generated the plants great show guys 🤙

[@Bearcat870]

Back in the early 80-90s … I came across now and then some real one hitter dome splitter fire 🔥. Just as good and even better than dispensary. Weed hasn’t gotten better . The top shelf is becoming more available. I remember smoking this super sticky fire purple stuff back in 1990 . Back in the 80s . I remember real tie sticks, chocolate time, Acapulco gold. I remember them real creeper strains.

[@Prometheuss.cannabis.corner]

I started growing in the early 2000s and went from Afghani to N.L, to great white shark. I have a friend who has the pre 98 silver pearl. It's always a trip down memory lane.

[@alexwinter6720]

Great white shark was such a beautiful smoke

[@johnkehoe8368]

back when i started to smoke in the late 80's we had a strain that looked bronze they called it jamaican compressed i am in canada it looked like shyt but you got so high it was nap time never heard of it after the one time i bought it so no idea what it really was then in the 90's we got northern lights and i can tell ya its not the same plants as then to now so many knockoffs i found pot tasted alot better in the 90's then now no idea why but i think it just taste like purfume from some dispo bags i get

[@shalombethefire]

Vietnam Black and other landraces may not look like modern weed, but they're so trippy and happy they'll send a hypebeast Gelato smoker to the psych ward. THC isn't the most important in terms of effects, I can smoke Gelato hybrids all day and just get bored and tired. Give me Malawi, Nevil's Haze, Thai, Oaxacan and it's like being on mushrooms. The sun shines brighter, music takes on another dimension, lauging fits, all the good stuff that's been lost in the ignorant inbreeding of purple weed that doesn't get you high.

[@chrispoggi1726]

That's a little heavy handed but I do agree, the problem is breeders not having specific intentions. Most of the weed on the market is people crossing "fire with fire"

[@user-dl8eg9rk1t]

Weed was feckin scary in the early days if you was novicing, jeez, chongers of old had different weed than today, most we smoke hasnt had a natural days life in 40 years lol, even the outdoor stuff is usually bred indoors under lights, the innocence of the day was palpable 50 years ago, but we got our lives kicked in over the years, and for what ? lol, governments are a set of cheeky bar stewards. People no longer experience weed the way we did 70's onwards untill the naughties, it was far more fun, i wouldnt swap any of it to experience the monster of government controlled substances rank and file BS lol.

[@juddyD8223]

I get so excited when I find a bean in some good dispo weed! Running three beans right now! One bean got broke in the grinder and still germinated (Chemdawg)! Great episode fellas.

[@TexasTerpz27]

How long until you germinated that bean since It got knicked by the grinder? Reason i ask is this just happened to me with sum chemdog in texas 😆 Lol

[@juddyD8223]

@@TexasTerpz27 pulled it out of the grinder on Monday and had the seed in the towel on Wednesday I think was out of the dirt by Sunday!

[@ElCannasseur]

many thanks for the awesome content, all of you. not just here but on your own channels too, i watch em all boys. much love from yuma az, keep em comin guys

[@anthonyrafferty8594]

Also big ups to Chad Westport because yeaterday he had a live where he was opening packs of cards that were from 96 and they were like hemp trading or collecting cards and they had some cool pics on them.

[@EX7RUD1CON]

I was lucky enough to grow up in Vancouver in the 90’s, never had to deal with brick weed. We used to get mad when we’d see seeds, now I really wish I could get some of those 90’s genetics lol.

[@Grizz_grows420]

I completely agree! I used to move some decent weight from BC. The number #1 strain that we had for a while was some Pre 98 White Widow! I’ve never found anything that was even close to how Diesel / Sour / Citrus that cut was! I wish I could find that one again but I’m not sure that’s possible anymore in 2024! 😞

[@johnkehoe8368]

the smell and taste of the smoke now a days is not as strong and i think its due to overloading plants with fertilizers my thought as a home grower is dont add anything unless its needed most soils or mixxes you get now have lots of nutes as slow release so why add to it when its not needed unless there is a problem

[@user-rn6vx1qs2h]

I'm 63 years old and listening to these young guys talking about brickwede it's kind of unusual because break weed was like the 70s and the starting of the 80s Maybe for us down close to the Border anyhow but it's all good I love to sit around and chat

[@FromTheStash]

Brick weed was heavy in the 90’s and early 2000’s in Michigan too. Rob

[@dans3969]

I am growing Dispensary seed I found called MotorBreath in my trim that I bought ....The plant is growing great .

[@roncozad4108]

Hell that's probably a pretty big score, considering seeds are like gold.

[@Stony_German]

Feeling with you Guys. Synth. Feeding multiplies the cardboard taste. Organic grown weed still have a lot of taste. Another point. 90‘s weed was way more big Colas and bigger harvest. Much love from over the😊 Ocean😊

[@terryskorczewski4727]

I'm in my 70s and way back then we didn't know what we were buying no one ever knew what strain it was but we always knew we were going to find a few seeds to continue on 😊

[@teamdeepwatercultivating]

genetics the foundation

[@anthonyrafferty8594]

Shout out to untrained astronaut he is doing big things with his channel. I watch when ever i can.

[@melvinrice9078]

When I started smoking 22 years ago everything had a heavy skunk odor here in Ky. It was fire tho. As good as any I've had since but I had no idea for years it could have any other smell.

[@EX7RUD1CON]

First time I tried proper Mac1 I was instantly transported back to the 90’s, the terps on it are exactly like the herb I used to get back then.

[@roncozad4108]

Brick weed smuggled in the gass or deisel tanks was the worst, not only that but being happy to get it as well as smoke it. So you can understand my confusion when the "GASS" strains came around.?.

[@robertcook4590]

Awesomeness as always fellas love your videos to be honest i think it would be cool to have a cannabis plant but have a vine structure 🤷‍♂️ i just think that would be cool

[@MoreBud-Angel]

Great history lesson I Will Now Lord Over People😊..... Thank you My 3 Wise Men❤

[@georgem.6136]

Back in the early 90's I got some brick that was definitely transported in a gas tank, will never forget that, had several o's of it, did the job! LOL.

[@jimmyanderson420]

Great content guys.... keep it up!!!

[@stephenwweber]

Great show, good topic. Love the topic. And Rob you are so right about Creme de la chem❤ Mephisto genetics Thanks for the show you guys as always twas very good. I've never said it before but I love your opening... Jingle? The song puts a smile on my face for sure. Makes me feel comfortable. Kind of sinking into a good show.

[@thomascooley2749]

The 70s was the time of gathering 80s created the f2s that we have been working with sence The stuff that was created in the 80s was stronger than most of the stuff we have today in my opinion the thc numbers are higher today but they lack much of the effect the older crosses had From Columbian to pine from skunk to haze they all in my opinion were a more complex high

[@dmo848]

Gastro pop. Everyone must try that strain. Grows easy. Nice hard buds but smalls really

[@GregDunne-zf2ep]

I never smell pot that smells as good as some of the landrace strains of the 70s its loosing something as all these new strains are coming out some strains seem to be losing something

[@DingoDman]

bring stash blend to australia 🙌🏻 we have lots of hydroponics shops that will buy it up hopefully

[@TheHotshot2369]

Much ❤️ boys🎉🎉

[@mkgallagher2]

Rob looked REALLY high in this one.

[@arkerner8441]

There are hundreds of land races. Each community in each area has a different cultivar that has been adapted to grow in that area for hundreds and in some cases thousands of years. From Mariam Webster: landraces~ a local variety of a species of plant or animal that has distinctive characteristics arising from development and adaptation over time to conditions of a localized geographic region and that typically displays greater genetic diversity than types subjected to formal breeding practices. Applies to plants and animals. So to say there is only 15 or so is incorrect.

[@robertcook4590]

I have morelos gold, Tampico, kampot gold, congolese skunk, greek kalamata, Colombian gold, Egyptian gold just to name a list of 20 i have ✌all old school from where they came from no company ever messed with i am blessed

[@MeanLaQueefa]

I was looking at that Greek(red) Kalamata. Looks like a fire Landrace.

[@Robeerie]

I am a breeder ….i get mad when seeds are in my bags….you have to remember….99%of the time…the person growing it…was not intending to make seeds….they are growing for production purposes….if there is a seed …there is alllllllways guna be a high chance that it was from a herm in the grow room….your seed when you grow it could be hermed out genetically …or it could’ve been cross with and un intended pollen source such as a nearby hermy or industrial hemp so there’s no telling if it’s carrying hermy leaning genes or low thc low terpene traits ….point is it wasn’t an intentional pollination if you getting it from a bag …that means your chances of it being a good seed is willllllldly low….i may be bias but…but from breeders that have good reviews …dont just pop mystery beens ….i mean as just practice I mean sure …,your still learning ….but I’m just saying don’t count on it being what you think it’s guna be

[@user-eg8hb8xt3j]

I grew genetics in the early 2000s and late 90s that destroy anything I’ve grown recently . The real Afghan kush , Mendo pups , super skunk ext . I feel Like the original genetics are getting lost and diluted . Bag appeal has improved but I don’t care about that. I care about the dank !

[@TambourinesAndElephants]

I grow bag seed

[@terryskorczewski4727]

I'm worried that we're going to start losing some of the original land race varieties

[@thedude-wb5vx]

Hsc not hso!! Lol. Awesome video dudes!

[@josephscott2071]

Haha that brick weed had some of the blackest seeds

[@GregDunne-zf2ep]

Great topic most our weed came from thialand in the 70 and early 80s most was great that's where the mutant freak show came from. Our strains are so different to your strains in the statesim in Australia

[@joey4523]

Pigeons still rockin the ecko. Salute to you my good man.

[@Prometheuss.cannabis.corner]

Echo was hot in the states in mid 90s

[@Pigeons420]

I’m still stuck in the mid 90s👊🏼

[@dmo848]

I Rock ecko still also. Nothin wrong with that.

[@jaybird634]

Genetics are important . Don't want to working hard for trash .

[@mattadams7031]

My dad looks for the old strains he says afghan will always be his favorite

[@timsmyth7942]

who used miracle gro in the 80/90s? general hydroponics was like the standard for home grow

[@ericblank6232]

CycloneCannabisCo has ruderallis genetics. Starting from scratch

[@AlexConstantinou]

It might be a good idea to include a link to your Patreon, on your website somewhere.

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

Smeller's my Feller and the nose knows 😂 if it smells good to your nose it won't steer you wrong

[@dylanwatkins1019]

30% wash is impossible 6-7% is a amazing wash return

[@Superlow2015]

Someone should pheno hunt some old bag seed and see what happens!! That would be fun…see what potential was actually in those plants back then.

[@mattadams7031]

I get a 25 1/8 Mr clean it’s effects make me wanna clean and taste is like a cleaner

[@ronlasting1203]

I think geopolitical issues helped to determine what weed we saw here in the US. We had little Thai until American soldiers started to fly back and forth for military issues. Many of the south American varieties got here by smugglers during the Just say No to drugs and American Military flew back and forth...feel me!

[@sanssin344]

i got sick of blue dream in the 2010s, even the dispensaries can get boring quickly, so much nicer being able to grow whatever catches my eye

[@Official_Doobie_Dan]

the market still wants candy terps color and high thc

[@jongggrowss4202]

Dude cover yo leg dam dude lol 😂 yes great vidya

[@TambourinesAndElephants]

🎉🎉🎉

[@shawngremm3226]

I want some kind buds

[@Hippyslacker]

K.G.B Weed.....Killer Green Bud is what we called it😂

[@rasterman2792]

I'm the bag seed man for now in Trinidad cannabis is legal but can't buy seeds they just take your seed at customs

[@user-rn6vx1qs2h]

If they can make it smell like donuts they can sure make it smell like bananas I think

[@GregDunne-zf2ep]

Years ago before you where born I would go down the coast and pick up seeds of mates that they collected throughout the year I would plant 2 to 3 thousand seeds there was so much variety purple light green dark green short tall so we had variety they came from Turkey India Thailand we didn't give them names like people do now its got so commercial

[@mikebanks6704]

Wait u guys have a discord?

[@scottietimmons3322]

There is totally a banana line. Lol P never seems to amaze me.

[@robertcook4590]

I have banana kush beans lol

[@user-rn6vx1qs2h]

When it smells like ammonia it was mildew

[@mitchphotoflix]

Friend of mine broke open some brick once and found grasshopper like bugs smashed in it.

[@curlygreenleaf]

VPD all the way, seed to consumption.

[@scottwilliams6257]

Im not authorized to comment on where the future of this plant is going.

[@BreathingSoma]

whos insta were they talkin about with the mutants

[@WatchCLtv]

HSC***

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

This came out 5 days ago and I'm just now getting a notification😢

[@EX7RUD1CON]

Dude I was literally watching that part of the video as I read this lol

[@TSR245]

BIGTURP is in your tent ⛺️ 😄 😀 😎

[@eagle1492]

Why not get a geneticist to interview?

[@LuckyChucker]

Where are genetics going? My opinion is that we will have whole new descriptions in the future besides "sativa, indica, hybrid" I believe somebody out there is going to break it down a little bit more for us.

[@GregDunne-zf2ep]

Weed now is like tomatoes these days not as nice in so many ways does not smell as good or taste like my old stains

[@AdirondackGrown]

It's satisfying to finally see my Dawgs monetized

[@RedPillGrower]

✌️😎🔥🔥🔥

[@davethestalker]

261 👍🏽

[@brettmcgilligan5243]

Where can i get a good cheese or sour diesel from.

[@terryskorczewski4727]

Cali connection has what is supposed to be the original sour Diesel I just got some from Attitude seed Bank

[@alexwinter6720]

Greenhouse seed co for the exodus cheese

[@brettmcgilligan5243]

@@alexwinter6720 tried greenhouae no gd pal

[@dmo848]

I liked Nirvana sour diesel.

[@louisel-khouri1015]

HI PEOPLES 👋 IN AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺 IN THE 1980'S WEDE GET OUR GEAR IN FOIL & WEDE CALL THEM STICKS. SO UDE SAY DO U HAVE ANY STICKS BRO... BUT THIS ILL NEVER FORGET WHEN WE WANTED GOOD BUD WHICH THEN EVERYONE WOULD SAY SINSCAMALLA WHICH IS SPANISH FOR FLOWERS WITHOUT SEEDS ANYWAY WE WOULD SAY WHOS GOT SOME NICE "SCINCE" LOL

[@dmo848]

Exactly as my pops calls it. 🤔😁

[@louisel-khouri1015]

@dmo848 TIME FLYS MY FRIEND! IM 51 NOW & ALL I EXPLAINED FEELS LIKE YESTURDAY. WHATS FUNNY IS SOMEONE 1 DAY WILL B TALKING TO U IN THE SAME WAY & ULL B SAYING WHAT I SAY TO U LOL 😆. IVE BEEN GROWING CANIBUS SINCE 1989 , HOW BOUT YOU??

[@louisel-khouri1015]

UR THE SAME GUY THAT FEEDS 1 DAY & 1 DAY WATER ARNT U??😆 IT WILL TAKE U 38 YEARS TO KNOW WHAT I KNOW ABOUT GROWING FROM OUT DOOR GUARILLA FARMING TO AUROPONICS! UR SO CALLED "BRUCE" (LIGHTING & SHANE MIGRO) AINT NOTHING, I KNEW THAT SHIT IN MY 30S & AS FOR MR GROW LOL TELL HIM TO SHOW ME 1 PLANT HE HAS MADE!?? THAT GIVES MORE THEN 250 GRAMS NOT THIS 30 GRAM CRAP! USE NEED AC INFINITY TO GROW FOR U! I DO IT MYSELF! THE ONLLY THING IVE EVER BOUGHT IS A SEALING FAN & NUTRIENTS, CAN U SAY THAT? SEEDS IN CUP 25 DEGREESE 24 H TO PAPER TOWEL 25 DEGREESE 24H TO MEDIUM AT 25 DEGREESE TO TEMPS AT 25 DEGREESE VEG 25 DEGREESE BLOOM 25 DEGREESE DRY AT 55HUMIDITY & 18 DEGREESE (60 F) AND U JUST GOT A MASTER CLASS! A&B IN VEG + KELP WITH NPK OF 2.3.4. BLOOM A&B + KELP WITH NPK OF 123 & THERES UR NUTES (CAL MAG IF USING COCO FROM GERMINATION & UP) SEE. YA! LOUIS

[@louisel-khouri1015]

@dmo848 BRO I DONT MEEN TO B HARSH, UR YOUNG ANYWAY . ITS COOL. HEY IF U EVER WANT ADVICE ON ANYTHING AT ALL (I MEAN IT ) ILL REPLY & ULL B MORE THEN HAPPY. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS STARTING I WAS SO EAGER TO LERN & WOULD MORE THEN LISTEN & STUDY EVERYTHING. HAPPY GROWING MATE, IM ON F/B SAME NAME IF U WANT TO LERN MORE, UPTO U BRO 👍

[@samchapple6363]

Loose buds, like the old days, for washing

[@deal5307]

Please include genetic modifying tech buisneses who recieve billions from governments in donations and subsidies. To think in all these decades they havent g.m the herb would be naive. Too much money to be made. Even in my country where it is illegal, there are experiments, and buisness with licences to grow. Tech has come so far it the last 30+ years.

[@georgem.6136]

HSC Rob lol

[@FromTheStash]

Look in the comment section, I corrected myself but misspoke in the video.

[@untrainedastronaut]

😎👨‍🚀👊

[@DavidPriller]

I know they claim mac1 caps cut is a cut only pheno that don’t produce seed however in 2001 I found one from a reputable dispo and grew it out along with a few cherry gar see ya. The bagseed turned out to be a male so I pollinated one of the female plants and made seeds, I then grew the seeds I made out and it turned out great. I now have over a thousand reg seeds mac1 capitulators cut crossed with ethos cherry gar see ya. I feel blessed to have these genetics

[@FXCartel]

Fancy sharing some to the UK???

[@DavidPriller]

@@FXCartel no

[@FXCartel]

​@@DavidPrillerthanks brother you hoard those thousand of seeds never to be grown or appreciated ever 😂😂 what a waste! Can't take them with you

[@DavidPriller]

@@FXCartel if you were here in the states we could discuss it but shipping to the UK from the USA is a big hassle and very expensive. Last time I sent a package to the uk it costs $77 and I had to fill out customs papers, the will likely become an Oklahoma only strain. Can’t make me feel bad about creating my own strain just because I won’t share it with you.

[@DavidPriller]

@@FXCartel dang this some funk smoke, like heavy cherry skunk for me the search is over, this message is to encourage people to think outside the box and make something of your own, something that you have created for yourself. But if you wanna be sour and cry about something you have no control over go ahead a cry about it

[@momstupin1720]

Early asf 😂

[@Santacruzpete420]

Rob, it’s HSC. Not HSO, you keep making this mistake homie 😂

[@brianjennings7644]

silly kids.

[@ronberube3887]

Did someone say logan? Lol good show boys.