The Dark World of “Christian” Domestic Discipline (should husbands spank their wives?)

[@cecilyerker]

These weird marriages where the men ritually spank the women for discipline are just kink. It’s BDSM kink, but the sub cannot consent. You can’t mock God, He knows exactly why you’re doing it and repackaging it as “holy.” Christ’s love and respect for women is undeniable.

[@Jazzy4612]

Exactly!

[@littleczbear]

It's not always kink. Sometimes it can just be an abuser taking advantage of his wife and manipulating her into believing it is right via "Christian" justifications (perverting the Bible) aka emotional and domestic violence. There is a documentary of a "Christian" family (Turpin Family, wife was at fault too and an abuser) that did this to their children in America and kept them locked up in chains to their beds and would beat them.. they believed it was deserved and normal "discipline" because they grew up that way. Absolutely disgusting.

[@vinlennox7658]

There are all sorts. There are female led relationships too. I don't think anyone should worry about what goes on n the bedroom if its consensual.

[@thegiftedseer6764]

It's NOT BDSM at all!

[@thegiftedseer6764]

Nobody is getting off on it. It's abuse.

[@Neoteny374]

As a Christian man happily married to his high-school sweetheart, I couldnt bear to listen to all of this. Nobody raises their voice to her, and nobody threatens her, and that includes me. How can a man vow to protect and provide security for his wife but still be the instrument of her fear? Be a strong, assertive, competent, masculine husband and your wife will respect you and you will love her. It makes no sense to have a wife fearful of you. My head is still spinning from what little i watched, so maybe im not making any sense, but my goodness, a man ought not need discipline his wife. She ought to gladly co-operate. edit: "a man ought not need discipline his wife" I'm sorry , ladies, wrong choice of words. But the subject matter really struck a nerve and my linguistics skills got overridden by my amygdala. Even the photo of her sitting there with him standing over her threateningly . ..dont do that. We get a bad reputation from every direction. We don't need Christian ladies adding to the stereotype.

[@softsweetfemme]

exactly! youre so lovely i hope i find a husband that shares the same values as you.

[@sowo7136]

I pray God can bring more men like you to the world its desperately needed.

[@R-78787]

Amen thank you!

[@AyushmitaChakraborty-o7i]

Thank you so much🤍

[@tylerhamilton4108]

How can God and Jesus be your Father, protector, guide, and salvation if he is also an instrument of your fear? Which he CERTAINLY is. If you have a disrespectful, hateful wife, the only thing that will fix that is the fear that everyone should feel for someone they respect, follow and fear losing. If you do not fear God, you are a fool. Your wife is to respect you as she would God himself. Fear is a normal and integral part of being submissive to and following God himself. The Holy Bible expresses in several areas over this concept. A woman not fearing her husband has led to the current downfall of the family in western culture, and the feminization of men by single mothers that are completely incapable of raising strong, healthy young Men and Women.

[@bettycarmella1127]

Yikes 😳 abuse veiled as “Christian discipline” is still abuse… it’s disturbing that Gods holy word is used to condone this behaviour🥺 sounds VERY misogynistic

[@JasmyneTheodora]

Yeah I don’t throw the word “misogynist” around easily but this guy fits the bill

[@Mr.Goodkat]

People do it all the time on defenceless, helpless children, it's disturbing that God's holy word is used to condone this behaviour, it sounds VERY misopaedic.

[@akajay7356]

Omg thank you for tackling this topic! When i first started seeking more femininity and godly marriage content, i found so many creators on social media promoting this and i found it so surprising.

[@hmmhuh1222]

what!?! that is wild to me, I've never even heard of this and was thinking it must be mostly just one guy promoting this and no one does it. really disturbing and sad

[@Alex-hj1vk]

It's truly sickening to see.

[@user-dv8bs7tb5c]

I've never come across any of this...

[@deec3561]

Girl what do you be watching on KZbin???! This is definitely not the norm

[@tiredoftheworld4834]

That’s creepy 😮

[@mojyoqueen350]

I've been beaten by my parents for too many years and Christian or not I am not allowing my future husband to do it.

[@JasmyneTheodora]

So sorry to hear that. I pray you will have a husband who truly cherishes and nourishes you.

[@global1007]

I hope you are well now ❤️. Parents should not be violent toward their children, not in any way, because children are humans as well as anyone else in the world. Is it right and acceptable to beat up an employee or a waiter or perhaps a teacher? Of course not. Children are humans. They can't be "owned" by parents. They are their own person. Internal thoughts and values, ideas, motivations, interests, emotions can't be owned. So everyone, even if a child could be somehow be technically owned, they are still free in their mind. And I hope that you will absolutely find a great husband, who will love and value you as a human being, like we all should.

[@laralexa454]

@@global1007beautifully said! The terrible thing is that inner freedom, “they are still free in their mind”, also goes away at a certain point. You can become so conditioned/trained that you actually believe your thoughts to be your own, even when that’s no longer true. You’ve been effectively programmed, often using cult-like tactics. An abuser very deliberately manipulates the mind of their chosen victim over time, & the most insidious pathway in this effort uses religion to control others. (“Religion” meaning dogma formed by individuals, or systems, seeking control, rather than spirituality.) You really do slowly lose your inner freedom. It happened to me over the course of a 25-yr marriage, but I was blessed to be able to “awaken” when my abusive husband began to leave home for extended periods for his work. Anyways, thanks for your comment! I will save it!

[@fireandsugar2625]

Notice how the guy uses softer language like "spanking" and "forced sex". Let's be real here. He's excusing beating your wife and raping her. It's amazing how some men genuinely don't view us as human that they seriously sit around and debate whether it is appropriate to beat and sexually torture us.

[@serenityssolace]

As a porn addict that fights with his addiction, I believe porn is 90% responsible for these views

[@fireandsugar2625]

@@serenityssolace I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you're able to overcome your addiction 🙏

[@serenityssolace]

@@fireandsugar2625 I will💪 Thank you very much!

[@jadefarah2858]

⁠@@serenityssolaceMay God’s grace free you from all satanic and demonic bondage. In Jesus Mighty Name Amen ❤

[@idontreallyknowagoodname4191]

​@@serenityssolaceMay the Lord free you from your addiction. Amen🙏

[@VictoriaAnne-w2c]

Thankyou so much for talking about this! I am a teenage girl and I am getting increasingly interested in Christianity/Traditional Femininity but these sorts of concepts definitely have exacerbated my anxiety around romance/sex and traditionalism/religious living. Misogynistic men who claim to follow biblical gender roles but then advocate for the objectification/abuse of women have made me much more apprehensive about being born female than anyone who is more progressive. The quote about the crying during the spanking quite frankly brought me to tears. Thank you so much for being both a traditionally feminine woman and also being someone who strongly criticizes this sort of thing because it seems conservative men all too often let this slide. God bless 💕

[@pettylilthing]

I’m also a teenager as well, but one thing I wouldn’t conflate together is conservative= Christian and progressive people= non Christian. Anyone who thinks like the man who has this type of view is crazy. No matter what they claim to be

[@VictoriaAnne-w2c]

@@pettylilthing That is important to note, thankyou for pointing that out

[@tiredoftheworld4834]

My dad is a lukewarm. I wouldn’t say he’s a “born again Christian” like I am. He likes to talk about going to church and saying nice stuff about Jesus but he really isn’t that well versed enough in the Bible and doesn’t have solid understandings on critical parts of the faith in some ways which I find a bit weird. That’s why I say he’s a “lukewarm”. He frequently has made comments about women (not positive ones of course) and marriage (talking about why men don’t want to get married today), then he low key high key implied that the “black family is being destroyed” by black women and that we have “high testosterone”. I was so disgusted but he’s shown me his true colors bit by bit about how he thinks of women - he sees us as easily likely enemies who conspire against and hate men. And the funny thing is many women in the black community absolutely WORSHIP black men but he talks like we’re the reason why the community isn’t what it should be. He complains about women raising their standards as well (because it’s leaving guys behind). He once (during a driving lesson) told me what kind of wife I should be although I asked him what qualities in a man I should look for. I honestly think that a lot of men that think like this have issues empathizing with women. They are high key selfish and will blame us for everything and their own failures. That isn’t how a true and healthy minded Christian man thinks. I’m not even interested in marrying someone with a secular mindset… and the pickings these days are slim, so I feel like being celibate and single is looking more desirable the more I see men talk like this. Thank God there are some healthy minded guys out there that aren’t thinking from a narcissistic and low key - high key misogynistic point of view.

[@tiredoftheworld4834]

@@pettylilthingpolitics definitely can influence faith. But it often corrupts more than it ever does enhance. My dad is a staunch democrat yet he thinks in misogynistic ways sometimes and has a deep distrust of women (because he thinks we’re out to get men)

[@pettylilthing]

@@tiredoftheworld4834 of course I feel is though it can influence peoples faith, however I don’t think it should dictate your faith or we should be having super deep political affiliations and then saying “Christian’s should vote democrats” or “Christian’s need to be conservative”. I hope I’m making sense, when it comes to politics, I see way to many people wrapping there faith and identity in Christ, with politics, when in actuality most politicians are corrupt and don’t care about you, and aren’t gonna change anything.

[@laralexa454]

As a 65-yr-old woman, who endured a soul-crushingly-abusive marriage of 25 yrs bc I believed this was “God’s will”, I hugely applaud you for explaining this issue so well! Untold numbers of women suffer & endure abuse as they are told it is “love.” Love is a scary word bc it can be used to justify abuse. I now prefer the word “kindness”, because real love is always kind, always gentle. Your channel is appreciated, thanks!

[@daphne-w98]

It must be nerve-wracking sometimes, taking on controversial issues so boldly and honestly! I’ve appreciated hearing your thoughts throughout the past months, and I hope the negative aspects of internet discourse (misinterpretation, vitriol, hate, etc.) don’t ever dim your wholesomeness and your message.

[@serenityssolace]

Honestly I've been struggling with porn addiction for a decade. I'm ashamed to admit it. There was a time I was full into doing mental gymnastics to find a way to excuse BDSM as something good and positive. Something that should be allowed in marriage if both consent. Something that shouldn't be condemned by the bible and God. But it's a slippery slope that can suck you in and send you to the depths of hell and depravity before you even realize. I'm still not over the addiction, it's very hard, it's ingrained in my brain and I am paying the price everyday. But I believe that I'm doing progress lately. Because I reached out to God for help. And I learned how blind and sick I was and still am. I learned the BDSM is never really justified even if it's a kink.

[@QTpatootie95]

It's a grooming tool and a gateway to endless disgusting violence against women. Don't allow any seeds in your mind excusing depravity because it's a kink. This type of thinking led to me almost dying during violent sex with a partner who pressured and groomed me into accepting this type of behavior, by the grace of god I lived and have found safety in gods light.

[@Tori_Jane]

@@QTpatootie95I'm so so sorry. Praise God you are safe now. I can't imagine how terrifying that must have been 💔

[@Tori_Jane]

There is hope for you! God can help "re-wire" your brain, even when you feel like it's been so deeply ingrained you'll never be free. "Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth." -Colossians 3:2 "...whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." -Philippians 4:8 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding." -Proverbs 3:5 These are just a few verses that I've used when it comes to dismantling sin and ingrained patterns of thinking/behavior. I hope they can help you too!

[@melly92]

​@@QTpatootie95I went through the same exact thing. My "husband" was telling me that whatever happens between a wife and a husband in the bedroom is no ones business. I was commanded to perform degrading and debasing acts in order to satisfy him. Before I went to sleep I would silently cry and my spirit felt like it was being ripped apart from the inside.. God saved me from that situation and I had to repent (and still do) for accepting this. I was at fault also for allowing my body to be defiled. God bless you.

[@melly92]

​@@QTpatootie95Also, alot of these practices have roots in the occult! My "husband" was weaving occultism into Christianity. He was grooming me to think that sodomy was acceptable because demons reside in the "back door" and he had to expel the demons from me. That is a teaching from Crowley!

[@meowsielee]

i’m so glad you explained the rod quote because it always bothered me that the bible endorsed child abuse but now i know that it’s not meant to be taken literally

[@JasmyneTheodora]

Yep! Not meant to be taken literally. I’ll also add that everyone I personally know who were hurt by their parents as a means of discipline grew up to resent their parents. My parents never used physical punishment on me and I’m very close to both of them and enjoy their presence. I also was a pretty well-behaved kid. I know that’s anecdotal but it’s worth mentioning.

[@global1007]

It's important to study Bible in their original languages, if only possible. Too many people are blindly trusting elders and leaders, who themselves are blind.

[@SoThatsGoot]

It sure would be nice if God had made his perfect, infallible word a little more clear. Why didn't he forsee the problems it would cause by including a verse that sounds like he's telling you to beat your kids?

[@darajoyce5514]

I see this phenomenon in so many asian parents.. which is wild. "you don't spank the sheep" indeed. the sheep would run away if you do. no wonder why kids go no contact with their parents.

[@myriamdiallo4434]

I very much appreciate your biblical exposition of this issue. Every aspect of this man's ideology that you've addressed is a gross perversion of Christianity. I'm so excited about the exposition of Orthodoxy videos!

[@kimberleeoneal]

I never thought of BDSM as sinful until you explained it like that. Just because someone consents to pain doesn't give you authority to inflict pain.

[@najla4359]

@@kimberleeoneal ppl are weird. Every couple is different just do what works for you and mind your own business.

[@oriehi_raphael_paul]

Now this is ACTUAL misogyny. It's painful to see another man poorly attempt to hide his deep (very deep) depravites behind God's word. It's things like this that makes some women fear the concept of "submission". Can't even imaging seeing my sister or any other female being trapped in a marriage with this person.

[@irenekatona7856]

Wow that man is straight up evil :( makes me feel so ill that he genuinely believes and then SPREADS this disgusting information 🤢

[@JasmyneTheodora]

Seriously! I became nauseated reading his dreck.

[@kg2096]

Hit the nail on the head when you called that website satanic. Grew up in a house that used scripture as permission to abuse the children, which turned me off to all Judeo/Christian religions for a time, (which is probably the real intent behind that man's website). Your videos have been helpful in slowly healing that wound. I'm looking forward to your intro video on Eastern Orthodox, as it's been a bit of a mystery for me. ❤

[@FaithAkinlade]

The guy definitely needs to repent. Psalms 11:5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

[@GodsOath_com]

If you are abusing each other YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIAN

[@CopeandSeethe325]

When porn fries your brain

[@Mabel-oe9bv]

Exactly blasphemy,how annoying it is for a man to act in wickedness and compare himself to God 😠

[@_Amarin]

I've heard men say God is first, they're 2nd, then the kids and lastly comes the wife. And that the wife should venerate/praise her husband, cuz that's the way she indirectly praises God. Sick in the head truly! I've also heard men say they have rights over their wives bodies and the wives don't have the right to refuse something a man tells them to do with their body, becaause apparently the wife is an object to her husband, since he is superior to her. Or that only if her husband allows her, will she get into heaven🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Mabel-oe9bv]

@@_Amarin As a woman never please anyone Do what’s right for you and your God A relationship is long term,so don’t compromise on what you really want in marriage. Cause we women are the venerable one’s.

[@viktorijabogdanaite5167]

Dear Jasmine, thank you so much for touching on this topic! I once came across this guy's blog (tbh another guy that I was talking to at that time recommended me to read it and apparently he was a fan, that's how I knew it's a red flag). This is so bizarre. This man is so far gone. He also promotes and encourages masturbation and lustful thoughts. No comments at all.

[@serenityssolace]

You dodged a bullet. Thank God

[@mik-exe-]

The bending over the knee seems like a method to infantilise, to treat a woman as less than a full adult. This is not to say its then acceptable to do such things to children, but it does seem like a way to control a woman by mentally reducing her to a child.

[@Himmiefan]

I've been around the ecclesiastical block enough to say that conservative Christianity does in fact infantilize women (Conservative religion is not holier than liberal religion. It's just as sinful, just in different ways.)

[@Angelikaslife]

It scares me that there are men out there who think like this. I worry and pray for his wife and any wives who are victims of this. I assume he has a wife, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t.

[@Savagekitten77]

If this isn't a kink on the part of the man it is a man treating his wife like a child instead of a partner! Crazy and weird!

[@denisenoe3702]

People interpret the Bible differently. CDD believers tend to think this is helping the wife to be a better person and wife. There is a lot of room for interpretation.

[@TheEtiquetteDistrict]

Thank you so much for making this! When I saw the screenshots in your Stories I felt my skin shudder. I went and told my husband (as if he was going to go beat the guy up). I am so so happy you are addressing this and giving him his lashing! This is healing, honestly. What a blasphemous evil he is spreading. I also truly appreciate you clarifying what a 'rod' is in scripture as I have said this so many times to Christians who use the Bible as a means to support their spanking practices.

[@Marie-Fey40]

So who holds the men accountable when they make mistakes? My comment was directed towards the Christian blogger guy who said that the husbands can discipline their wives. That's what I meant in case anyone didn't get it

[@melly92]

The Church, ideally. That is why it is so important to participate in the community!

[@oanaion4899]

​@@melly92no they don't 😂 men hate accountability so they will never do that to their own.

[@tiredoftheworld4834]

@@oanaion4899tbh, I think that no one likes accountability. But in the case of “males”, they tend to protect each other by not calling out bs when it should be called out. Men call out craziness. “Males” don’t. I think a lot of immature guys have solidarity and take a vow of silence when it comes to the wrong things. And it would be seen as “snitching” and “betraying a brotha” if they called something out. But guys who know what it is to try and live up to the godly standard of a man have no problem because they see themselves as an individual who need to protect the people they love and care for and not as one member of a fraternity.

[@oanaion4899]

@@tiredoftheworld4834 nope. I said what I said. Don't try to separate good men from bad men calling the bad ones "males". They are MEN. Grown men with full agency , critical thinking skill. Don't try to infantilize them. They KNOW what they are doing.

[@global1007]

Let's be real. God is the final Judge. And He will not look into person. He will judge the king and the poor on the same scale. The rich and the homeless, they both are accountable to God.

[@westerncentristrants525]

Colossians 3:19 Husbands, love your wives and be not bitter against them.

[@MrsCandy.]

As a Christian for almost 30 years, I have NEVER heard of this. NEVER!!!!

[@lucasley20]

Wow! That man is the perfect example of how those with ill intent can interpret the bible for nefarious purposes. Thank you for presenting your sane perspective on this concept.

[@tryphenarose384]

Thank you for making this video. I came across this vile theology after stumbling upon a site called, Biblical Families, where the whole group actively promotes/lives polygamous lifestyles, using God's word. They teach that if a wife doesn't submit to her husband's desire for other women, that she is obedient and rebellious, and in danger of God's wrath. So many things I've seen on there have been so egregious and have really messed with my understanding of God. But seeing people like you warn about these horrible doctrines, gives me some hope. And yes, I've noticed that a very large portion of people in these fringe groups, are the type that have forsaken assembly - those who forsake the guidance, protection and instruction of the church, to go and pave their own way, thinking they are the church unto themselves.

[@ashlearonae]

You are a part of my Christian journey, because of this informative content. It’s refreshing to see a young lady, like myself speaking so eloquently and presenting such grace and goodness. God bless you and your family ❤

[@phoenixxsoul]

God was very specific when he called out "false prophets" in the Bible. This individual promoting this insanity, will get what he deserves eventually. Unless he truly repents and follows the word...

[@autumnmarie00]

Well said! Thank you for exposing the darkness that man is spewing. It is so tragic and terrible when people twist the Bible to falsely affirm their desire for power over another human being.

[@abigailwillis1656]

I cannot wait to see your Orthodoxy content! I am enquiring into Orthodoxy right now and would love to hear what you have to say.

[@tulip5210]

you are teaching me context I did not know, even though I was taught the values those verses really mean, I didn't know what it really meant lol. Thank you for the context.

[@mostreal907]

Man. Just when I think I have seen it all.

[@JasmyneTheodora]

🥴

[@latita_mongalo]

This was a great topic to address, thank you!

[@JasmyneTheodora]

Glad it was helpful!

[@a.s.m.3246]

So glad you are courageous enough to speak truth.

[@annayeager6404]

I had no idea this was an actually thing. UTTERLY Sickening. Gross. Thank you for speaking out on it!!!

[@negotiumnovum8899]

This is so gross. Lord have mercy on this sick soul. Part of me wishes I never heard about this, but I guess it is good that Christian's are addressing this. Better they hear about it from you first and not from proponents of it. Great work Jasmyne! I admire your courage in addressing these sorts of topics!

[@emmadasilva1794]

Thank you for this video! I also very much appreciated the explanation about spanking children not being sanctioned in scripture. That seems to be an all too common misconception among Christians.

[@eleigh1312]

Lol @ "I'm gonna domestic discipline this remote". Great video again Jasmyne!

[@JasmyneTheodora]

😊 thank you

[@Deanna0456]

This was beautifully explained lady ❤️

[@JasmyneTheodora]

So glad!

[@lounaannajung4454]

Sorry I'll be snarky for just a second : Why does this guy not just become Muslim rather than go through all this effort to lie about this. It has already been done for him some 1,400 years ago smh Do people actually believe what he says?! I thought the majority of people in this age are literate and could grab a Bible anytime... *sigh* Lord have mercy

[@imnoemit]

Listening and so good! I loved mostly the rod mentioned for discipline child I thought it was really as that. I appreciate your content, love your videos💜

[@JasmyneTheodora]

You are so welcome!! Thank you for your support! Yes, I thought the Bible condoned child spanking, too, for a while. But it doesn’t make sense for a fair God to condone it. Children don’t know much and thus always making mistakes. Physical punishment for a little, innocent human being just trying to learn how to be a person is definitely unjust.

[@sigge-xp8pi]

Hello, Jasmyne. I'm an old widower from Scandinavia. You are younger than my daughters and sons and I think your points of view about near everything are very thoughtful and in fact; I find your religion as in the Ortodox Church is interesting. I've been a Christian all/most of my life and am thankful for that. I'm a member of two churches and that's not a problem here. I miss my late wife a lot and haven't had the opportunity...and craving...to find a new wife - she perhaps is irreplaceable? In fact, she was not easy to live with and her family did and do have the same opinion. Excuse me now but she was turned on by the physical side of CDD and took initiativ several times and now I understand that I made her disappointed with me for not taking enough responsibility for her development in her role as a wife. She was the most brilliant mother you can imagine but as a wife, not so much. Isn't it remarkable that these secular books about spanking wives are written by...women? Even this "...50 shades..." story and numerous books on line too. I mean, there is oxygen and we can/want to breath, there is water and... I read the Bible every day and much because of my issues with my late wife I'm quite familiar with how the Jewish/Hebrew and the Christian views are when you read between the lines. Haven't you missed a couple of verses here and there! * In Genesis 3:16 (!) the husband's duty is to "rule" over the wife and the Hebrew word is associated with how a king would handle problems including physical punishment. * In Revelations (3?)God/Jesus is chasting the ones He loves... Of course the Bible can't be grafic here, there are enough of psychopaths out there who enjoy giving pain... Personally I, and not my wife either, did spank our children, if you can't communicate with them verbally you shouldn't multiply! But in the end(!), why do so many women find it appropriate - and attractive - to submit to her man, even for spanking? Quite a mystery if you don't accept the need for some kind of CDD, but not for all marriages? But in my case I think we should have done this "maintenance" version quit often and in hindsight I think my wife in a way missed it and perhaps lost trust in my competens as a caretaking husband. Too late, sadly. Friendly, Sigurd.

[@flpser_ppwer]

Just because some women have fantasies about this matter, it doesn't mean all women are into it. If you watch a thriller, you won't try to replicate in reality what you saw. Otherwise, you would get în jail! Most people are able to differentiate fact from fiction. Especially, adults. It's not that hard! 🤪

[@KathrynGolick-t1d]

I grew up in the church and I never heard of Christian domestic discipline

[@proverbs356_]

I can’t wait for your orthodoxy video!!! Hoping the week goes by fast haha

[@JasmyneTheodora]

Im so happy you’re excited about it!

[@QTpatootie95]

@@JasmyneTheodorayes! I'm catholic but may I ask are you Russian Orthodox or is there a more general Christian Orthodox practice?

[@JasmyneTheodora]

We have attended many Orthodox churches. Serbian was the first one I attended. I’ve also attended a Russian Orthodox church. Currently, we’re attending a Greek Orthodox church but the Russian Orthodox agree with all beliefs however, they usually approach a few things differently. Like, usually, Russian Orthodox churches have regular in-person confession while the Greeks dont do that, really. And the Russians usually dont have pews (they stand for the entire liturgy). I honestly usually prefer their practices but the differences are nominal

[@ausi731]

it’s so hard to even make in through this video, so disturbing to know there are people who think themselves to be holy, yet are flat out abusive to their wives for sexual and lustful purposes. it’s sick

[@SerpicoVendemion]

These are the reasons why I am really getting drawn to the apostolic churches because it’s so tiring to constantly bicker about individual’s own explanations of the Bible in light of their own feelings or understanding. Specially for men and women when it comes to sexuality. And yes as a married woman I am sick and tired arguing with a Protestant husband who constantly hates and condemns all of the apostolic Churches calling them pagan also constantly interpreting Bible from his own fleshly desires … he says “ it’s another way to look at this verse “ I am just tired of arguing so I quit. He even was saying there can be orgies in heaven … it’s another way to look at the Bible.Lord have mercy on us. Another thing I wanted to add just because two people are married sometimes men think and usually it’s the men that think they can do whatever in the bed with their wives … like they want to bring their cornographic imagery in the bed and if the wife doesn’t want to act according to their imagery she is suddenly not doing her wifely duty to pleasure her man. It’s this weird expectation for her to be a good Godly wife kneeling down in front of Lord but then turns around and transforms in to this succubus in the bed..she has to be the most vile promiscuous one that brings alive the dark corn that these men daily consume.

[@chickenbeef1242]

The Bible is very very clear in what it says we should not take part in, there is NO other fleshly interpretation anyone can make. Yes, some of the Bible needs the guidance of the holy spirit to understand deeper meaning. But, what God reveals to us that keeps us away from his will and his kingdom there is no other way to look at it, that is only willful ignorance. "Envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 5:21..... There will be no orgies in heaven, clear and bright as day. This is not the only scripture that very clearly condemns orgies either, as well as other deviant sexual sins. Anyone who tries to put their own interpretation on what is very well written out in scripture needs a lot of prayer to come before God in repentance, God does not take these things lightly and he will say he never knew us if we choose to behave in ways that demonstrate we don't know him.

[@afrofaeries]

You have to divorce your husband. He is too far gone in his adultery and inappropriate mindset. Let God deal with him, but you have to take your leave immediately.

[@snacksleep9991]

Yes immediately he needs to become familiar with God again

[@apple1667]

I feel his content is more directed towards a Jewish or Islamic lifestyle. This isn’t common in the Christian way I grew up in. Love your videos!!!

[@everlynenganga781]

The same way we submit to Christ because He loves us enough to die for us, is the same way a wife will submit to a husband who loves her well. All this to say submission is a result of being loved well.

[@friedawells6860]

Yes!!

[@idontreallyknowagoodname4191]

May the Lord free all the wives that undergo this treatment from their husbands. May he help them escape and find a save place. 🙏

[@afrofaeries]

Amen ❤

[@Ivanabelle]

Been waiting to listen to video since you briefly mentioned it last and I am eager watch it through but the juxtaposition of weight of the topic and lightness of the music is wild ahaha. I'm sure it will be good as always ❤

[@Penelope-uh8od]

alot of people misinterpret the word and mislead many . its so sad. the best thing to do is to know God personally and seek him diligently , that is a sure way to stay on the right track and not be misled.

[@kyurinn_8323]

Thank you for this. Truly, wolves hide in a sheep's clothing, and this is a great example of it. I hope more people will see this, be enlightened, and have a desire to learn more about Christ.

[@Irene.Shalom]

I dont agree with all the points of your argument, but i do agree with the whole premise. The authority of a parent over a child is very different than the authority of a husband over a wife. Unfortunately today is very common to romanticize and embellish (christianly or secularly) bdsm practices. Movies, books... As godly people we should know and do better.

[@j.mashalevin]

I’m an Orthodox, (Serbian) and I can’t wait for the video 🤩 subscribed!❤

[@cassiel2711]

Definitely a triggering video for me, but I’m glad to hear this side of this topic.

[@kevinhughes3477]

Really great video. I think most people in the CDD crowd seem genuine, but very misguided, and I pray for their repentance

[@proverbs356_]

Will you be doing a video in the future about how motherhood is going for you? I know you are still figuring it all out but I would love for you to talk about it

[@JasmyneTheodora]

Absolutely! I want to wait until she’s a year old, though.

[@digital_ghostling]

I do appreciate the bloopers 😂

[@JasmyneTheodora]

Awesome

[@Mat8aios26]

My father never raised his hand to my mother, us 3 son's learnt from my father and all 3 of us never raised a hand to a woman or our wives (now). Even when we get married the priest says that the women should love and respect the man and the man should love and respect the woman (just short break down).

[@remsma3412]

Already watched this on patreon, but I'm gonna leave a comment here for the algorithm ✌️

[@JasmyneTheodora]

You’re awesome

[@Fearlessly91]

Not that my man would ever want to, but even if he did, he would never DARE lay a hand on me. He knows I’d fight back and I wouldn’t fight fair.

[@Blakmagic88]

Same…I would not hesitate to fight back…

[@adobeblue4360]

This video is good but I think you should be very specific on the things these wives get spanked for. I saw where one wife was severely beaten for sitting next to her mother-in-law in a restaurant because her husband thought she should sit next to him. Another was beaten for bringing dinner to the table too slowly. Another was beaten several times for attending a church meeting slightly late (she was at work) talking animatedly and forgetting some snacks for her church group. One wife revealed her husband shaved her head (and beat her, of course) because her hair got in the way when he tried to have oral sex. Another was beaten because she drank a beer in the frig, (the last one) but there were more in the garage, etc. One wife (and her daughter) had to stand in full display in the living room naked after having received their spankings. This was while the woman's son brought his fiancee over for dinner for the first time. It seems these husbands who are borderline or outright abusive use DD as an excuse to abuse their wives. The wives take it because they signed a form agreeing to this discipline. Once they enter into this agreement, they cannot argue with their husbands or they will receive MORE discipline.

[@Neoteny374]

Oh c'mon now. No need to make stuff up.

[@adobeblue4360]

@@Neoteny374 Sorry. These are not made up, they are real examples from the wives themselves. These women have it rough and it is good to highlight that but also good to provide all the details.

[@Neoteny374]

@@adobeblue4360 Sorry Ma'am, but this is complete histrionics. No man beats his wife and daughter then displays then in front of his daughter in law. Your just making stuff up. Men know that women aren't held to domestic agreements in the courts. No fault divorce proves that. Oh, im sure women feel some amount of shame and disappoinment during divorce proceedings, but its the men who cant walk away from punishment imposed on him by the law. Any prenup can be thrown and any civil arbitration proceedings can turn completely woman centric if the woman even claims to even feel threatened. Any abuse agreement like the ones you claim will not hold or even see the light of day just solely on the fact that they promote threat. Men are to hold their marriage contract or face court imposed alienation from thier children and have thier financial obligations upheld by punishment by the state. Women can and do, walk away from any such contracts or duties or obligations and very frequently do just that. So stop fibbing.

[@adobeblue4360]

@@Neoteny374 I am sorry but I don't have the time or energy to lie about this. Do your own research. These women I mentioned above would not take their cases to the police because they endorse the lifestyle and feel it helps them. There are many blogs on the subject, both pros and cons.

[@Neoteny374]

@@adobeblue4360 1) If you think so little of men to think they get off on displaying a boy's naked and beaten sister and mother to them...well, you need help. 2) I don't have to believe you at all. It's all hearsay. You say they are sadistically abused, then proceed to say they did not come forward to the police because they endorse the behaviour. They approve of it and even find enjoyment in it. Signing ceremonial papers of consent. Your agrguement makes no sense at all. We are not obligated to believe women who cry assault but never felt it was severe enough to come forward. "Men are monsters, just believe" they say. 3) After a long post denigrating men, you say you font have time or energy to even provide a Google search suggestion, saying " do your own research" That's an admission of getting caught in a lie. 4) I've done my own research. I'm a man. Have been for years.

[@jenna2431]

That this is even a question in anyone's mind is a huge feckin' problem.

[@joanna400]

Yikes! this was some terribly warped thinking to hear about. Men can be leaders but should not be tyrannical. And you are absolutely right it's not sex, it's actually just fallen lusts.

[@ZZZELCH]

“Each are made in the image and likeness of God.” We must remember our roles in marriage, and in large part; helping to make each other holy.

[@BlueBabyAkaAj]

This needs to be on a podcast and free. Everyone needs to hear this topic debunked. Men and women.

[@susish7814]

You should google Berean Patriot. This person says that polgyny and lesbians and threesomes arent forbidden according to bible...anyways... Thank you for your great content :)

[@michellabella10]

Is there a way to report this website? Gosh it should be banned

[@stephaniepalazzo5634]

Thank you for sharing this.

[@KathrynGolick-t1d]

My opinion is when you are married, you are a team no one should be disciplined or abused

[@KathrynGolick-t1d]

I wonder what a judge would say about

[@Iam_Celene]

The marriage bed is undefiled. There shouldn’t be any shame with ANYTHING within the MARRIAGE BED with the husband and wife regardless of the activity between them

[@JasmyneTheodora]

That is not the case. Sodomy, sadism and masochism are all still depraved even if it’s between a husband and wife. St. Paul meant that normal sex itself is not defiling.

[@myriamdiallo4434]

​@JasmyneTheodora I'm really glad you addressed this in the consent section of this video! It's not okay to abuse one's spouse, or to indulge their perverted fantasies, just because they "consented" or asked for it. That's something modern "sex positivity" culture misses.

[@bh635]

Can you point to me where Paul stated that he was talking about what you call normal sex? It seems to me everything you believe the Bible says is based on your modern feminist idea of the world, you're simply interpreting from your favoured point of view which is exactly what your accusing your opposition of total double standard.

[@gazoontight]

The guy who wrote those articles should read about how a regimen of medication and therapy can be helpful to persons with disordered thinking.

[@gentledov3]

I thought those sites were satire.....God help us all. Imagine how many women are experiencing this terrible abuse because of heretics like this.

[@james0805]

“Even the devil can use scripture to suit his own purpose “

[@AoKajii]

Another one using God to make his sick dreams come true... I can't stand people like that. And by saying a woman should trust her husband when it comes to the Bible just shows how manipulative he is and that he is probably NOT saying what really is written in there. Otherwise, why should we trust him and him only when it comes to the Texts ?

[@TosyaChan]

Someone has to report this man to the authorities. He is EVIL.

[@Mr.Goodkat]

I am vehemently against all hitting in the home but when it happens to a grown woman, with a fully developed brain, who consented to be there in the first place after potentially years (however long she wants) of testing the partner to weigh if suitable or not, can opt out anytime she wants, is not financially dependent on the perpetrator, legally dependent or dependent in any other way. If she gets hit once on one occasion with a hand, we call it "dark" "violent" "unacceptable" but if it happens to that exact same woman when a defenceless, tiny little girl who is financially, legally and emotionally dependent on the perpetrator, with a developing brain, didn't even agree to be there in the first place, is a novice/beginner at life, isn't free to leave at all and has a whole society saying she not only can be hit but should be hit, it can be done on numerous occasions over years even with instruments/weapons and with forced stripping, it's not seen as being as "dark" as the above scenario against her when she's bigger/less helpless?

[@David-li4uw]

I googled “wife discipline” with something completely different in mind. I did not know this was a thing. Wow. People are messed up.

[@cecilyerker]

Hot take: spanking should only be in a consensual sexual context. If you cannot guide and discipline and provide consequences for your kids without hitting them, you should not have them. Spanking kids can lead to people developing paraphilias (kinks) as teens and adults and cause them problems in their relationships.

[@kukue-t3m]

Lol the bloopers and yes we're appreciating them😂

[@rethinks5054]

Im a Muslim in Arabia where patriarchy is live and well, we are infamous for being rude and crud but man haha we don’t do what that man says. If I hurt my future wife her family will punch me to death 💀. We are commanded in Quran to hold gently or let go gracefully “divorce”.

[@chickenbeef1242]

Except none of these things that this guy promotes is at all part of the Christian Bible, he is lying through his teeth. Our scripture says that a husband is to love his wife as the church. The teachings of marriage give us our unique roles as wives and husbands, with no absence of the love that God has for all his children. Sexual deviance and perversion are not condoned in any circumstance be it men or women.

[@rethinks5054]

@@chickenbeef1242 I know. In Islam we believe the Bible is God’s book old and new 📖, as you may know we believe in marry immaculate birth,Jesus raise the dead… we believe Christian,Jews, cow 🐄 worshippers ,atheist all can go to heaven IF SINCERE even in their ignorance, say a granny in the middle of nowhere who thinks Islam is some kind of meal 🥘 or some guy who only hear from overzealous Muslims who annoy me personally talking about religion like it is football team … you get the point. You will be judged according to your sincerity and how well did you understand the message including dumb Muslims.

[@rethinks5054]

@@chickenbeef1242 in Quran you read Christians are lovely people”not exact translation”, it may sound or read like politically correct statement I use in KZbin comments section to promote whatever, but it’s really there.

[@lovelyicy6395]

What? There have been literal videos of Muslim women who are burned alive, tortured, and r@ped for not wearing hijabs correctly by Muslim men. Muslim men are notorious for mistreating women.

[@katherinehorton459]

i pray that God delivers this man from the demons that have him in a chokehold rn. i pray that the Lord free him from the unclean spirits of religion, pridefulness, & self righteousness in the mighty name of Jesus Christ

[@Ivanabelle]

I have been wondering lately if there is DV in a marriage, does the Orthodox church permit divorce?

[@JasmyneTheodora]

The Orthodox Church does permit divorce under circumstances of adultery, abuse and abandonment

[@Ivanabelle]

@@JasmyneTheodora thank you for informing me :))

[@mayawilliams9960]

But you shouldn’t get remarried

[@Ivanabelle]

@@mayawilliams9960 why is that?

[@mayawilliams9960]

@@Ivanabelle because God sees it as adultery

[@Himmiefan]

Ultimately, this is yet another example of how the sinful world has infected the church for centuries and promoted male entitlement and declared that the Ephesian verses are about hierarchy with the man at the top. The truth is that 1) we go by Christ's command to love one another, 2) Ephesians discusses this and 3)Ephesians calls for a husband and wife to submit, give in, to one another, the wife to the husband, and the husband loves the wife as Christ loves the church. There is no hierarchy of who is the boss, but about how to love one another in their God-inspired feminine energy of love and surrender and the masculine energy of action and service. So yes, "Christian" domestic discipline is sinful and so not Biblical.

[@EstelleWalter]

The titles of the articles are awful. This is awful. This is not okay at all ever. Thank you for talking about this.

[@Hertropicalhome2023]

Oh my goodness! I didn't even know this was a thing🥺🤢🤮. This man is horribly sick....

[@estherezeani5773]

Great video dear.. Just a thought.... So who spanks the man when he s out of line? 🤔

[@afrofaeries]

God! 😂

[@alexiaaixelia]

Hii Jasmyne!! I love your videos❤could you make one on why submissiveness isnt bad or being and doormat/ mindless slave? My family has a really bad idea of it and think it means to be a servant and have no opinions at all /say and they call me naive and crazy. So please could you make a video about its bad rep? Tysm❤❤

[@Himmiefan]

I came out of a Calvinist church that misinterpreted Ephesians by totally leaving out 5:21, submit to another, forgetting Christ's teachings, and focused on the wife submitting as in obeying, and the husband's headship as being in charge. Even as a teen, i knew this wasn't true and finally left that church. So, years later, I stumbled across a secular blog about feminine energy and about submitting as in relaxing in our femininity and receiving while the man finds pleasure and inspiration in service and doing for the wife's and the family's benefit. In this, there is no hierarchy, but instead, men and women work together and are like a matched set of salt and pepper shakers, for lack of a better comparison. They work together for the best flavor. That's the best way I've found of thinking about it.

[@ashleynicole9423]

He reminds of the red pill guys and I think their ideology is very dangerous. I also think there is a group of very bitter people who want to subvert Christianity and this is just one of the means to reach their end.

[@paulphalene8792]

Very interesting video, salute from France!

[@JasmyneTheodora]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@pelumiadewumi3879]

Well-done again Jasmyne. I agree with you in all respect save for the issue of spanking your child. I don't think that's inherently wrong as long as it's modestly done.

[@amandabarber8161]

Yes, I was frequently spanked as a kid and deserved every spanking I got! Had a great relationship with my parents, too. My dad’s with the Lord now, and I miss him.

[@pelumiadewumi3879]

@@amandabarber8161 sorry to hear that. I'm sure he served to be a great Dad which made you turn out right.

[@_Amarin]

Nah, if you know how to talk to your child and make them understand with mere words, there won't be a need to spank them. And spanking is violence, so why would you wanna be violent towards your own kid?

[@AdrienneJung.M]

What a disgusting perversion of God’s holy word

[@TheNaborsFamily]

Huhhh I can’t believe this is even a thought😮 Thank goodness my husband and I do not believe in that at all!

[@Alyse14]

The Bloopers. 😂❤

[@maryangelica5319]

I've heard that this Larry Solomon guy is actually a troll very elaborate on his trolling, but it's admittedly very hard to argue this with the way he talks about himself in his website.

[@denisenoe3702]

People go all over the place in interpreting the Bible. There is also a great deal of variation in what people emphasize. Some Biblical versions are usually ignored, others fixated upon. Another point: When modern people read the Bible, we are reading a translation. Some words and phrases may not translate perfectly from one language to another. His beliefs are based on taking some verses both seriously and literally.

[@thefightingwife]

I must have been living under a rock! I had no idea this was going on..in God's name no less. I knew abuse was a thing, but not on this level. WOW! Not right and totally twisted.