The Darkest Wizard Still ALIVE: What Happened to Herpo the Foul's HORCRUX? - Harry Potter Theory

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Of the various Dark Wizards that have stained Wizarding History, very few have been able to perform the most sadistic of magical rituals: Horcrux creation. In fact, of the long list of dark wizards that have plagued the Wizarding World at large, only 2 or 3 names are known to have successfully created Horcruxes. The most infamous (and obvious) name that comes to mind is Lord Voldemort, who created more Horcruxes than anyone else in Wizarding history.
The next name that comes to mind is Owle Bullock, a wizard who I just recently made a video on. In that video, I theorized that Owle, who authored ‘Secrets of the Darkest Art’- a book containing any and all information ABOUT Horcruxes, was actually the ORIGINAL Horcrux creator.
And the final (and confirmed) Horcrux creator was a wizard by the name of Herpo the Foul- a powerful ancient Wizard that hailed from Greece.
But one thing I’ve never really gotten in to is WHAT HAPPENED to the Horcruxes of these other Horcrux creators. Voldemort’s Horcruxes were destroyed, we know that much.
But what about Herpo?
If a Horcrux makes you immortal and anchors you to the world of the living, then it could mean that somewhere out there Herpo the Foul…Still exists.
You guys have been asking for it so here it is. Today we’re going to be diving in to WHAT Herpo the Foul’s Horcrux is, WHERE it is, and whether or not Herpo, one of the most powerful practitioners of dark magic to ever live, is still out there.
Let’s dive in.
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@chadpeterson5698
@chadpeterson5698 Ай бұрын
Fun fact, this video actually was made because I suggested it. And they actually responded and said they’d do it.
@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory Ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@chadpeterson5698
@chadpeterson5698 Ай бұрын
You’re welcome
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 Ай бұрын
@@HarryPotterTheory I actually think the 1st Parselmouth is Eve from the Bible since she is talking to the Serpent!!!
@rhysjones4250
@rhysjones4250 Ай бұрын
To bring those 2 fantasy worlds together, Rowling would have to plagiarise the bible 😂​@darkdragon7210
@mikkihesson3509
@mikkihesson3509 Ай бұрын
its a great question but i dont know about its logistics. how would it ACTUALLY work in this way? bc it WOULD work in some way. we all know that a wizard with a horcrux DOES kind of die. the body can anyway. voldemort died and was vaporous. i dont see a horcrux making the BODY last forever. i see the body eventually FAILING as it normally would then you would be stuck in the vapor form unless you reformed in some way with a new body. the horcrux keeps your SOUL over here. it doesnt say anything about making ever lasting "life" as in the life of your BODY. it just says your soul CANT go over bc a piece of it is here. this is why i dont think nicholas flammel and his wife both had a horcruxes instead of the sorcerers stone being real. (another theory form the channel) edit and repost: perhaps this is how an animal could be useful as one, to actually inhabit the body in some way but THAT body would eventually die too and then the soul is gone from it. i dont think you can just pluck the soul from a horcrux and change it over and over. animals can move around on their own and arent said to be the best vessels for that reason, in case it got itself killed. a phoenix in this case would be the ONLY fool proof body.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea Ай бұрын
Artistic renderings of Herpo the Foul shows him holding a staff. One picture from a chocolate frog card depict it as a long branch with a snake coiled over it, while another more illustrated card shows it in the form of a cobra with glowing red eyes, similar to Jafar's snake staff from Aladdin. I like to think that Herpo's snake staff was his Horcrux. Maybe just like Jafar, he was able to use to hypnotize people and use it like a second wand.
@hackman669
@hackman669 Ай бұрын
Join the Dark Side we have chocolate 😅
@addisonduncan343
@addisonduncan343 Ай бұрын
I don't think the basilisk in the chamber of secret was Herpo's horcrux. Harry wouldn't have been able to destroy it with the sword before it was impregnated with the venom.
@mathewkanapilly796
@mathewkanapilly796 Ай бұрын
@@addisonduncan343 I’m pretty sure it’s powerful enough to destroy a horcrux because I personally think that the basilisk is either herpo the foul or slytherins horcrux which would mean it can destroy horcruxes without basilisk venom being on it
@addisonduncan343
@addisonduncan343 Ай бұрын
@mathewkanapilly796 The only reason the sword can destroy horcruxes is because Goblin Silver only takes in that which makes it stronger. Either Hermione or Griphook says exactly that in Book 7. Prior to stabbing the basilisk in Book 2, the sword would have been useless against a horcrux. Hence, my previous statement.
@phillipc1819
@phillipc1819 Ай бұрын
Horcrux are only resilient in nature due to the powerful defenses put on them by the wizard. Living horcruxes would not have the same defenses as the inanimate. Voldemort had to keep nagini close and put her in a magic prism to protect her once he understood that his horcruxes were being hunted.
@mathewkanapilly796
@mathewkanapilly796 Ай бұрын
@@addisonduncan343 I said just based on my own theories that it would kill a horcrux without the basilisk venom because there are theories that slytherins basilisk is his horcrux not confirmed though
@mathewkanapilly796
@mathewkanapilly796 Ай бұрын
@@phillipc1819 that’s not true the only way they could have killed nagini is with the sword of griffindor because all living horcruxs have inherent ridiculously strong defenses built in through the horcrux it acts like a barrier against spells just like what basilisks have and the only other way would be fiend fire but only Voldemort can control that
@ZeoViolet
@ZeoViolet Ай бұрын
I find it difficult to believe that Harpo the Foul was the only person to create a Horcrux in all the centuries between him and Voldemort. I mean, the damned books were _right there_ in the Restricted section of the library, until Dumbledore removed them to his Study when he became Headmaster. And they couldn't have been the only copies of those books. There might be half a dozen other scruple-less Witches/Wizards out there still alive due to Horcruxes, at least, and we don't know about them, because they desired immortality much more than world conquering, and have since become adept at restarting their lives after several decades of non-aging.
@V-KIH
@V-KIH Ай бұрын
That's as fitting as the magical world coexisting with muggles who will likely never know that Harry Potter from the cupboard under the stairs is a magical hero in that world.
@pj9691
@pj9691 Ай бұрын
So I always thought that Herpo and Salazar were related- but what if they aren't just related, but actually the same person- to an extent. We see in Chamber of Secrets that the Diary horcrux is able to come back as a 16y.o Tom Riddle/Voldemort, within the chamber while draining Ginny's 'lifeforce'; what if Herpo's horcrux was actually able to do this after his original/main body and soul were destroyed. I've always thought that there was more to the Chamber of Secrets than we are lead to believe- much like how in Hogwarts Legacy there is a hidden Slytherin room with his library etc- but I have always imagined that to actually be down in the chamber- which if Salazar was actually the 'reincarnation' of Herpo (or even just his ancestor) he may have stashed any books, scrolls or work down there, protected by the basilisk, only accessible by his heir, which would mean that even though Dumbledore removed any potential work from the main library and restricted section on horcrux's, Voldemort would have still found it down there. Either way this could link all 3 of these dark wizards together, and mean that the knowledge was past down along with parseltongue- maybe Herpo also created a written language that was magical and you had to be able to speak Parseltongue to be able to read it to further safeguard the knowledge.
@davidhannum9017
@davidhannum9017 Ай бұрын
Now THAT is interesting! I like it and it does seem like it would make sense too
@QuinnMallory-od1hw
@QuinnMallory-od1hw Ай бұрын
Definitely makes sense, there was no way voldemort got enough information from the main library to create a horcrux, in fact I bet dumbledore had that book from his time in hogwarts with grindlwald, as they were looking for clues to master death.
@jamesmeppler6375
@jamesmeppler6375 Ай бұрын
If you start writing books...I think you will have to learn how to put space in between paragraphs. I dunno for you. But I'm not reading something that dense...KZbin already makes comments tough to read. Not using paragraphs make it impossible
@maxim0666
@maxim0666 Ай бұрын
Interesting, it’s solves some questions.
@meacadwell
@meacadwell Ай бұрын
@@jamesmeppler6375 It was easy to read. It was easy to understand. The writer made some good points. Is this format better for you? If not, I can make it double spaced for you because that's what some writers use.
@wanderhillen2435
@wanderhillen2435 Ай бұрын
I don't think there could be a worse horcrux than a creature that any sensible wizard would want to kill with high priority, even a creature as dangerous as a basilisk. You basically guarantee that a never-ending row of powerful aurors and other beast-hunters will show up and try to destroy your horcrux, and while a basilisk is powerful they are no match for a strong wizard. It would be much better to horcruxify an object that people don't *want* to destroy, like a famous artwork or other things typically kept in museums. Perhaps it could even have a enchantment on it causing people to consider it "precious", LOTR-style.
@therebelofchaos1674
@therebelofchaos1674 Ай бұрын
Or even an old shoe. No one will think it's in an old shoe. The main reason Voldy put his Horcruxes inside of the objects he did is because he wanted to be special/unique. He was arrogant enough to believe that by taking these artifacts from powerful wizard bloodlines, and putting a piece of his soul in them, he could surpass those wizards.
@anonperson3972
@anonperson3972 25 күн бұрын
Or just something innoccuous and personal only to you. So you can bury it somewhere and have it ignored forever.
@richewilson6394
@richewilson6394 Ай бұрын
That makes so much sense and it would add more secrets to the chamber secrets because of the fact that no one would ever think that it was a horcrux just a beast in there. That's always been one of those pet peeves of mine is like how many secrets are in this chamber?
@yatanogarasu
@yatanogarasu Ай бұрын
I think making the basilisk or Nagini a Horcrux would be a mistake, as they were both mortal creatures whom will eventually die, if not being killed by someone then probably by old age or disease. Granted, a basilisk can live up to 900 years, but they're not immortal. Now, making a Horcrux out of the immortal phoenix or an indestructible goblin-made silver object would be more wise. Granted, both are hard to obtain.
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Ай бұрын
What if Herpo's Basilisk was his Horcrux & it granted him the gift of Parseltongue, but in that original process Herpo kept part of it's Soul in him. So as long as Herpo survived then his Basilisk survived & vice versa.
@JesusFreak89
@JesusFreak89 Ай бұрын
I'd have made it the castle itself, or the whomping willow.
@mathewkanapilly796
@mathewkanapilly796 Ай бұрын
@@yatanogarasu a basilisk can actually live for more than a thousand years the basilisk in the chamber of secrets is over 1000 years old by the time Harry kills it
@yatanogarasu
@yatanogarasu Ай бұрын
@@mathewkanapilly796 Yes, but it's not immortal, it will eventually die. And I think Slytherin's basilisk was in suspended animation while inside the statue's mouth, that's why it lived so long (didn't age).
@mathewkanapilly796
@mathewkanapilly796 Ай бұрын
@@yatanogarasu its proven that the basilisk can hibernate for hundreds of years even without suspended animation they are just the perfect living horcrux because they are the longest living creatures and are almost impossible to kill how long did Voldemort actually stay immortal 30 years thats not much at all horcruxes are vulnerable unless you do it right and throw it in the middle of Antartica if i was going to have multiple horcuxes like Voldemort I would do what i said last with a non living horcrux and then id make a horcrux out of a basilisk
@baschdiro8565
@baschdiro8565 Ай бұрын
Herpo might even have been Salazar Slytherin. After all we hardly know anything about Salazar's life before he co-founded Hogwarts and it's quite possible that he hid his own basilisk in the castle.
@hackman669
@hackman669 Ай бұрын
Makes sense. Wizards are weak due to low numbers and are overpowered by technology.
@tony056
@tony056 Ай бұрын
Woot! Love your videos and content! Love the history in wizards we don't usually hear about!
@xeniamartin5297
@xeniamartin5297 Ай бұрын
maybe this is because I'm drunk, but Harpo trying to eradicate the muggles...was that because he wanted to help save the wizard population or simply end the people who were tormenting them? in the end, I still can't see how muggles ever had the change to 'overpower' or 'scare' the wizarding world compared to all the spells and hexes. Like...how did this ever happen??
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Ай бұрын
Well the series has never gone in-depth about ALL the limits of Magic nor ALL of its costs & origins. If every spell/hex/curse/etc has an energy cost, then despite how powerful it can be the Magical Population is fewer numbers of people compared to Muggles. So basically, a powerful Wizard/Witch may be able to defeat vast numbers but eventually they could be overwhelmed/defeated in turn.
@root13pie
@root13pie Ай бұрын
Sheer muggle numbers. Wizards are a tiny portion of the population, far less than 1%. Similar to the idea that a group of 5 year olds can overcome an adult if there are enough of them.
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Ай бұрын
@@root13pie Excellent example that reinforces my comment.
@brucelee9658
@brucelee9658 Ай бұрын
If the basilisk in the chamber was a horcrux then would a heir be necessary to open the chamber?
@curtisevans8413
@curtisevans8413 Ай бұрын
Back in the day, maybe the Muggles would have had a very hard time harming a wizard. They still managed it sometimes though, and there's an example of a witch who would intentionally get captured so she could be burned at the stake. She did it 7 times because she'd use a flame freezing charm and enjoyed the sensation it gave her. These days is a completely different story. If the British military found out about and decided to destroy Hogwarts for example, they could dispatch naval and air assets to obliterate it from afar, then send in ground troops. Guns and explosives are just as powerful as wands, and with an organisation like the military, just as limitless.
@ProfWollhoven
@ProfWollhoven Ай бұрын
If Herpo is still alive, we should get a new movie trilogy introducing a new dark wizard but later revealing that it was HErpo all along while waguely explaining how and why he's still alive. But if the basilisk was a horcrux itself, I don't think he would could be destroyed by basilisk venom. Snakes are normally immun to their own venom.
@Sstucash
@Sstucash 5 күн бұрын
Did you know thats sort of a myth, a lot of snakes have degrees of immunity to venom components both their own and the venom of other snakes in the case of king snakes and king cobras (both feed on other snakes). One of my phd students has been doing research on it and she has managed to find at least 5 instances of a snake biting itself and dying along with several were they survived but were injured. Saying that I get the story aspects of it and I go turn it into a biology lesson. Take care.
@m3tamorphosissystem250
@m3tamorphosissystem250 Ай бұрын
It’s been stated that the Basilik was born in the castle, so it can’t be more than 1000 years old.
@wildefice1
@wildefice1 Ай бұрын
I think we already met Herpo. Borgin or Burke! Hear me out, their shop has been open for a really really long time. They deal in dark artifacts. My theory is that Borgin or burke (who ever is the older one ) is Herpo who after every few decades, disappears for a while to throw off suspicions of his immortality. We know Herpo is a dark wizard who specializes in the creation of dark artifacts, it would stand to reason that he would open up a store that deals in magical items as a front, to continue his experimentations. And the opal necklace is his horcrux. He buys and sells his own fragment of soul. Probably to get cheap thrills watching his necklace kill ignorant wizards and dumber muggles. Thats it, what do you think??
@KohlMahoney
@KohlMahoney Ай бұрын
I wonder if Snape and Dumbledore recognized that it was Herpo's necklace. Dumbledore probably wouldn't destroy it (he doesn't do ANYTHING throughout the entire series, except for the battle of Dumbledore and Voldemort) and Snape probably would keep it as a souvenir, effectively keeping Herpo alive. My theory is that Herpo left the country so he wouldn't bring as much attention to himself
@Gamble9110
@Gamble9110 Ай бұрын
I believe Herpo the Foul is the actual writer of the book in the restricted section “The Secrets of The Darkest Art” and it was just a surname he used because it’s written by Owle Bullock. I believe that there is only 1 bloodline that can communicate back and forth with snakes which means that everyone who can is related (in part). That also means(assuming it was true) that technically when the piece of voldemorts soul that was in Harry died… Harry should have no longer been able to speak Parceltongue cuz the progenitor of the ability was removed. I believe that Herpo discovered how to make Basilisks because he was working on the creation of horcrux magic but needed a sinister type of ingredient (or he knew he needed something he didn’t have. Kind of like when you’re cooking and you taste your food and think “this tastes good but it’s missing something… if I figure out what it’s missing it’ll be perfect!) and he then worked on creating what he needed. Once he had discovered how to make a basilisk and discovered the venom (I’m assuming that is the important ingredient). In that he now had his ingredient (trial and error is how you make new magic) and worked forth and created the horcrux utilizing the venom of a basilisk. Tom didn’t start making horcrux’s until he discovered the chamber of secrets. It is entirely possible that he came across the reference of horcrux’s in the library like he said he did… One thing lead to another and he discovered the chamber or he discovered the snake and he knew he could talk to snakes and if Herpo had turned that exact basilisk into a horcrux for it to live for even longer than normal (its essentially immortal since it’s a horcrux) then that Basilisk guided and taught Tom how make them and had been there when Salazar helped build the castle… It’s also entirely possible that the basilisk being Herpo’s influence is the reason that Salazar did as good in his field as he did to become one of the founding members. He made his mascot for Slytherin a snake to show homage and appreciation to Herpo (I think that the insignia of Slytherin isn’t just a snake but is in fact Herpo’s basilisk specifically!) To show thanks for getting him as far as he did. That would also explain why he built an entire chamber for him… you’re not guna do that for a pet… but you would do that for your mentor, teacher and ancestor! I believe that the basilisk was either Herpo’s basilisk and was a horcrux or I believe it somehow was Herpo himself and that the basilisk was with Slytherin along his journey to becoming great and received a Chamber within the castle from Slytherin himself so he could remain to carry out the work they had set forth to do together but would be with Salazar’s Decendants… I feel the reason the basilisk venom is capable of destroying a horcrux is because it is required to make a horcrux. Now… all that being said… The Opal Necklace is most definitely a horcrux!!! No doubt about it… I just don’t know Who’s though… but probably Herpo! Tell me what you think about what I just said.
@technoloverish
@technoloverish Ай бұрын
Personally, I’d like for someone to make a cannon movie and/or book that gives more details about who Herpo was. He really didn’t get any attention in any of the books or films so far. For example, I’d like to find out how making a horcrux affected his physical form, even if it only slightly affected it. And it would be interesting to know more about what he did with his basilisk. Like, did he harm anyone with it, and if so, was he using it specifically on muggle-born witches and wizards.
@shilohwehrmacht2947
@shilohwehrmacht2947 Ай бұрын
Voldemort after creating 5 horcruxes still looked exactly like his 16 year old self
@adamsagov1058
@adamsagov1058 Ай бұрын
@@shilohwehrmacht2947 Not five but one or two, i recall the only indication after he made the diary and the ring into hocruxes is that a red flash would sometimes appear in his eyes, after 5 hocruxes when he came to Hogwarts to ask for DADA position he was already pretty ugly, still had hair and his nose but his eyes were already completely red though with round irises yet but his feauters looked burned and disfigured and he was pale as death.
@shilohwehrmacht2947
@shilohwehrmacht2947 Ай бұрын
@@adamsagov1058 I dont remember all those details what I do remember was he was described as paler and slightly more thin than he was when he graduated after his time in the Albanian wilderness but I could be wrong
@Γιώργος-ΕυγένιοςΤζωρτζίνης
@Γιώργος-ΕυγένιοςΤζωρτζίνης Ай бұрын
I would love for a short story to provide us with more on Herpo the Foul and possibly Owl Bullock.
@luigi1456
@luigi1456 15 күн бұрын
I think both are solid ideas, I like the idea that the necklace is an ancient horcrux and over time it's dark properties have become more potent
@AKBOXING-13-1
@AKBOXING-13-1 Ай бұрын
Ezkridis will always be the most evil wizard. Torturing all those lost sailors constantly that they ended up becoming dementors. And when ezkridis died and the spell was lifted and the ministry found the island and azkaban. They said that the dementors wasn’t even the scariest thing they found.
@johnbransby6231
@johnbransby6231 Ай бұрын
My only issue with the opal necklace being a horcrux is that it was examined, I think either Snape or Dumbledor or both would have recognized it as a horcrux. Salazar necklace was a horcrux and can be touched but would effect the person who wears it so I am sceptical about the opal necklace. If Herpo is horcrux is still around then Herpo might be in a similar state that Voldemort was in.
@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory Ай бұрын
I don't think that they would have known enough about Horcruxes to recognize it as one, but who knows!
@johnbransby6231
@johnbransby6231 Ай бұрын
@@HarryPotterTheory Dumbledor would have, he relized the diary was a horcrux and he recognized the ring. The only reason he did not recognize Salazar necklace was a fake was because he did before he can examine it. Snape I am not sure how much he knew since there was very few books about them.
@19TheFallen
@19TheFallen Ай бұрын
Movie-wise, it would actually put an interesting twist on Snape saying "I think Miss Bell is lucky to be alive!" after studying it briefly if it was, because after seeing the Horcruxes Voldemort made that he *did* see, he'd know how dangerous they were and what they were capable of with the proper additional curses or spells. Especially since he'd seen what the ring had done to Dumbledore.......and, what it was doing to him over the course of the year......
@Faoriter
@Faoriter Ай бұрын
I always thought that herpo's horocrux would have the subject of how we know how to destroy them by someone findimg it and proceed to try everything until succes
@Kyleplier
@Kyleplier Ай бұрын
I actually wish that J.K. Rowling would tell us what is required to be performed to create a Horcrux. As most of us have much stronger stomachs. As if it’s some kind of cannibalism, that personally doesn’t bother me. It’s feces, vomit, and adipose tissue that gets me gagging. FYI, adipose tissue is the technical terminology for fat tissue. It’s yellow and sticky, as well as smelly. It’s some truly disgusting material, not to mention having to cut through it on overweight patients. 🤢
@dreadfulspiller8766
@dreadfulspiller8766 Ай бұрын
According to the books when you murder your soul rips in two and then you use some spell to put the torn piece of soul into an object thus keeping it safe as long as you keep the receptacle in a safe place.
@sea_air_ahhh5776
@sea_air_ahhh5776 Ай бұрын
Well then you are not going to enjoy hearing how a horcrux is made…you have to cut the adipose tissue out of an obese man and eat it raw, then you must vomit it back up, eat the vomit, and wait until you defecate. Once you do, you must eat the feces and recite an incantation while holding a prized object - a fragment of your soul is then transferred into that object and thus it becomes a horcrux.
@somewhatstrange2097
@somewhatstrange2097 Ай бұрын
She won't because then she'd actually have to come up with something, rather than merely say "I came up with a brilliant piece of writing, but I won't tell you what it is".
@saraross8396
@saraross8396 Ай бұрын
I'd rather her not. However, there are two potential reasons why she never will. The first is simply that as long as it is kept mysterious, she won't have to come up with a nonsensical idea that contradicts other parts of the books because she obviously "didn't think about it" like she has done when asked to explain certain things. The second and more realistic reason is that it protects her from liability. Kids like to pretend with the books they read and the things they watch. When the books first came out, kids were doing exactly that, causing no shortage of concern for parents. If the exact method were written out, she could be potentially held responsible if some kid or misguided adult were to try to create one since part of the process involves murder. Most people, of course, are able to discern between fiction and reality, but many kids (depending on the age), and some adults, are not. As long as the method is incomplete, she is safe.
@chadpeterson5698
@chadpeterson5698 Ай бұрын
I think only the murder is required for the creation of the horcrux since there is no evidence to suggest something else.
@M.A.C.01
@M.A.C.01 Ай бұрын
I like a theory someone once commented that Mr filch is herpo and Mrs Norris is is horcrux.
@johnmulder3204
@johnmulder3204 Ай бұрын
Off topic but something I think would make an interesting video: As we all know Slughorn was troubled by Lily Potter’s death in the first wizarding war, but I’ve always wondered how many members of his “slug club” were killed in at the hands of Voldemort and his death eaters.
@AbigailBrickler
@AbigailBrickler Ай бұрын
What I always thought was neat is that even Horcruxes can be destroyed. So there really is no 100% fool-proof way to thwart death. Anyway, I think the opal necklace is a more likely candidate for a horcrux for the reasons you discussed.
@thevolunteerfiredepartment816
@thevolunteerfiredepartment816 Ай бұрын
Voldemort still aged as he created more and more horcruxes so I think it’s incorrect to think of horcruxes as immortality magic. Like you said in the video they tie your soul to the physical world rather than extending life indefinitely. So Herpo may have died a physical death but unless his horrid was found, and we don’t have any proof it was, he’s more like a wandering spirit like Voldemort was after his encounter with Harry. And similar to Sauron’s fate at the end of the Lord of the Rings.
@EpilepticHouseplant
@EpilepticHouseplant Ай бұрын
What an opalescent episode ❤
@jkrause365
@jkrause365 Ай бұрын
Here's the bit that has always puzzled me. How would the creator of a basilisk manage the creature without ever accidentally looking into its eyes?
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Ай бұрын
If that creator spoke Parseltongue then they could control/manage it of course. But yes, without Parseltongue it's much more difficult.
@dreadfulspiller8766
@dreadfulspiller8766 Ай бұрын
I think the necklace was cursed after it was made a horcrux because you could touch the cup, slytherin's locket, diary, tiara and I assume the snake without dying unless you count it biting you. Which brings up why the ring alone couldn't be touched I mean why not put the same type of curse on all the rest because voldemort wore the ring after he made it a horcrux which I believe he did when he killed his father and grandparents.
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Ай бұрын
In retrospect,Voldemort's treatment of the cup, diary, and diadem were absolutely foolish. They had no magical protection. He believed that it was simply enough to hide them or entrust them to his followers. Even the locket's protection was lacking when compared to the ring.
@knightwingx23
@knightwingx23 Ай бұрын
It can't be the same snake as Herpo's unless it's somehow lived for thousands of years. Basilisks are known for living around 900 years and Salazar's was supposed to be special because it managed to live 1000 years. A horcrux doesn't extend life if it's in a living being so if it was his than it should've died well before Salazar was even born
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Ай бұрын
The only two wizards truly known to have successfully created a horcrux are Herpo the Foul and Voldemort. We also know that it is possible to repair the sould via remorse. As such, I suspect that Herpo the Foul actually experienced remorse and repaired his soul.
@QuinnMallory-od1hw
@QuinnMallory-od1hw Ай бұрын
No, the opal was used as a vessel to contain the innocent part of his soul, the only piece that could possibly be shed, to facilitate an easier way to create a horcrux. Afterall it's a deliberate and delicate balance to achieve.
@matheusmterra
@matheusmterra Ай бұрын
And then he made the Horcrux the Basilisk...? Interesting theory, also explains why Voldemort had an easier time doing multiple horcruxes, he didn't have purity or innocence or goodness in his soul.
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Ай бұрын
​@@matheusmterra I somewhat disagree with you, yes after he went to Hogwarts & created his first Horcrux he no longer had any Purity. But before then he still had miniscule sparks of it despite his overall behavior, I think if he hadn't been abandoned at birth & instead was raised by a loving family he might've not become "Voldemort"!
@matheusmterra
@matheusmterra Ай бұрын
@@morrigankasa570 child of a love potion, remember? Completely incapable of love.
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Ай бұрын
@@matheusmterra If I am remembering correctly, that was never officially confirmed by JK Rowling that being a product of a love potion means incapable of love.
@matheusmterra
@matheusmterra Ай бұрын
@@morrigankasa570 it was not confirmed? Dude, it's in book 6. Slughorn's class when he talks about love potions, and later when we discover the history of Tom Riddle Senior over book 6-7.
@lipingrahman6648
@lipingrahman6648 Ай бұрын
I don’t know if Rowling has ever commented but I do swear she must know the works of Tolkien well. There are a lot of similarities.
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Ай бұрын
She had a lot of influences. The "cockroach cluster" candy name almost certainly came from a Monty Python sketch.
@firestarter6488
@firestarter6488 12 күн бұрын
Tolkien pretty much is the father of all fantasy writing, so it's not surprising in the slightest.
@Homesweethome-zn8ot
@Homesweethome-zn8ot Ай бұрын
I just love your content! subscribed to this channel for 4 years❤
@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory Ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@macrosense
@macrosense Ай бұрын
When it is said that something is a “basilisk”, that suggests there had been more than one basilisk. Otherwise there would only be “the basilisk”.
@mistyfricke9579
@mistyfricke9579 Ай бұрын
I’m subscribed and love the vids
@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory Ай бұрын
Thank-you!
@mistyfricke9579
@mistyfricke9579 Ай бұрын
@@HarryPotterTheory very welcome. I love your content and always makes me think of all the wider possibilities
@LordWyatt
@LordWyatt Ай бұрын
I wish we had a stand-alone film for Slytherin. Fanfic or not it would be cool to see his childhood, his friendship with the other founders, and his development into one of the most powerful magic users in history. Perhaps they had many abilities that were forgotten or lost over the millennia
@happytyo3200
@happytyo3200 Ай бұрын
With it being 2024 and with the right writing they can easily use Voldemort as a catalyst or inspiration for other dark Wizards and the death of Voldemort was just the beginning of showing Wizards what they could be capable of if they follow through on the dark arts honestly if you really think about it Harry was only a teenager when he defeated Voldemort and Voldemort can easily be used as a catalyst for dark Wizards just as Harry was for the good side
@LinkTheFusky
@LinkTheFusky Ай бұрын
(headcannon) the act of making a horcrux involves first committing murder upon an innocent person purely out of hatred or malice, commonly with the killing curse avada kadavra, but may also be done commanding animals like serpants to do your killing for you (myrtle warren in the prefects bathroom) and then tearing the soul from the body of said individual and placing them into an object, creature or individual (like a diary) and placing part of your soul along with it, torn from you, trapping the soul of whoever was murdered within the horcrux forever binding them to the place they have died (myrtle warren's toilet) or the object, creature or individual (lily and james potter with their son following him till voldemort killed part of his soul in the forbidden forest) their horcrux resides in, its immoral in that the souls are tormented forever bound to the earth with whomever the caster is, trapped in limbo when they are innocent and should not be bound there (sirius and lupin only stayed to watch over harry and keep james and lily company)
@ashkanhooshmand6518
@ashkanhooshmand6518 25 күн бұрын
imagine a what if scenario of him being alive and ran into voldomort. now that would be interesting.
@BCD10
@BCD10 Ай бұрын
Now this would be a good post Hogwarts adult Harry fanfiction story
@Luna-oo3fl
@Luna-oo3fl Ай бұрын
I should read the books this fall 🍁🍂
@jackiemarneef
@jackiemarneef Ай бұрын
I would really like to see a movie about Herpo. I know there isnt that much information about him. But i could be really interesting. And with that we could learn more about the potterverse. Even if they make a show with multiple episodes about things about dark wizards and dark magic they could explain somethings that are just touched in the books or movies.
@ounalan
@ounalan Ай бұрын
It seems having a horcrux is not enough for immortality. You would need someone to carry out the ritual to bring you back to life. (as we know from Voldemort's coming back by help of Wormtail) If Herpo didn't have a dedicated disciple, he may be waiting in limbo for ever..
@sannasaare7100
@sannasaare7100 Ай бұрын
Cool video 🌟
@Phoenix38m
@Phoenix38m Ай бұрын
Herpo...interesting name and location for him...Herpetology is the Greek- rooted word for the study of snakes.
@IgoTpaynus69
@IgoTpaynus69 Ай бұрын
I never liked the books or the movies and I read all of them in HS. But this channel makes me love the series. Ty for this❤❤❤
@KohlMahoney
@KohlMahoney Ай бұрын
If the basilisk theory is true, then 12-year-old Harry destroyed 2 horcruxes, technically killed young Voldemort and potentially took down Herpo (if it's his only horcrux, and he'd die quickly due to old age). Forget about the prophecy, this kid was born to be an auror
@vladlenaschabrina1701
@vladlenaschabrina1701 Ай бұрын
I'm sooo obsessed with th Herpo. There's even a fanfiction including this character and there he's the real pure evil. (and in this fanfic The Basilisk was really his horcrux, btw - isn't you the author of that work?)) Tom Riddle is just a shortpanty comparing to Herpo's figure. I believe that we really need more works about Herpo! Like a solid horror drama for adults, not teens, you know.
@mn46842
@mn46842 Ай бұрын
A chicken beneath a toad. That seems like a place keeper
@Arjalineck
@Arjalineck Ай бұрын
Love your vids, worth a sub
@arc7375
@arc7375 Ай бұрын
⁠My own theory is that Herpo the Foul _is_ Salazar Slytherin. After becoming immortal, after the creation of his horcrux, I imagine that Herpo would systematically travel from place to place all over the world to make sure people wouldn’t catch onto the fact he would never age or die. So he’d leave his current residence and travel to an entirely new place and establish himself under a new identity. Thereby avoiding detection, and continuing to live until present day.
@ethanprice6954
@ethanprice6954 Ай бұрын
I remember someone suggested this in the comments and you said you would make this
@leerubin4303
@leerubin4303 Ай бұрын
Since there were so few Horcrux ever made, and how many Basilisk? With the very limited chance of a Basilisk and a horcrux meeting being so miniscule, the knowledge of the relationship suggests that it was used. Herpo's destruction is probable.
@mav3298
@mav3298 Ай бұрын
Stretching for tenuous links at times here, Herpo may well be an ancestor of Slytherein but that does not mean the Basilisk in the Chamber of Secrets was the same as the one he originally created.
@TheDarkElder
@TheDarkElder Ай бұрын
I very much think Herpo is still around, at least was during the time of the books. Will he have a body? That's an entirely different question, the Horcrux only contains a piece of soul, not body. But there are also magical means to "rejuvenate" the body, mostly by taking lives of others.
@meacadwell
@meacadwell Ай бұрын
Ok, so if the basilisk is a horcrux...what happens if the basilisk bites his tongue by accident? 1. Will it kill him or just make him sick? 2. Will it do anything to kill off the horcrux?
@darkdragon7210
@darkdragon7210 Ай бұрын
How did Herpo Create the Baskilisk? How did he figure Toads on Chicken Eggs would do anything? I mean he just woke up 1 day and said, ya know I want to Breed some Toads & Chicken Eggs together!
@jasonwright1687
@jasonwright1687 Ай бұрын
Have you considered that young voldemort made his first as a book... A living book that had the power to reanimate him in entirety through some sort of complex siphon spell ... He had to ha e learned it somewhere... I believe it was from a book which was a horcrux. I think he made a deal as a natural glibtongue and got the knowledge in exchange for a promise to find a suitable sacrifice for his (umpteen million greats) grandfather. I am pretty sure he would not have fulfilled the promise, and would have, instead, hidden, buried, or otherwise made it inaccessible... So no one could let him out. He was a resource, and voldemort felt no attachment to anyone, not even family. . . not even for family's sake. I believe he would have modeled his first after a freshly learned example.... Given there were nearly no examples and him splitting his soul more than just the once was unthinkable.
@GregScurtu
@GregScurtu Ай бұрын
a horcrux will revive someone if they die, but it says nothing about keeping the original body from aging. I would imagine that after 60-100 years or so, without any other way to live forever, they would need to make a new horcrux, thus, splitting their soul again.
@tonyferguson2218
@tonyferguson2218 Ай бұрын
i think we need more movies made to explore these idears
@jonathanwest3809
@jonathanwest3809 Ай бұрын
Paradox: only basilisk venom kills horcrux, so the sword wouldn't kill the basilisk.
@whodidnt5760
@whodidnt5760 2 күн бұрын
What happens if you create a horocrux out of a piece of fruit? Will the fruit live forever too or will it decompose eventually and the horocrux is destroyed, or is it indistructable?
@Homesweethome-zn8ot
@Homesweethome-zn8ot Ай бұрын
Herpo went Foul!
@joematthews4952
@joematthews4952 Ай бұрын
I am strongly of the view that the opal necklace is Herpo's horcrux. Hence, he must still be alive.
@optimisticnihilist3417
@optimisticnihilist3417 Ай бұрын
There's not nearly enough discussion on how Voldemort and his horcruxes are an almost direct retelling of the tale of Koshei the Deathless, from Russian folklore.
@somersault1123
@somersault1123 Ай бұрын
I like the idea that the creator of Horcruxes destroyed his own horcrux after finding the imperfections with it unbearable.
@Thegangsterzboyy98
@Thegangsterzboyy98 Ай бұрын
Would really suck if the basilisk bit it's own tongue.
@harasen_haras5
@harasen_haras5 Ай бұрын
I wonder how many people IRL have attempted to hatch a chicken egg under a toad to see if they could breed a basilisk.
@dutchhc-4eva270
@dutchhc-4eva270 10 күн бұрын
I don't hear a specific answer to the question in the title. what happened to his Horcrux? Also, if he's still alive or not is not deduced from this.
@M.wolbers
@M.wolbers 18 күн бұрын
Would say Neither. According to the books, you wouldnt want a horcrux in a living creature or a weapon unless you'd make more then one.
@akmoris
@akmoris Ай бұрын
Pretty sure the necklace was a horcrux. The Basilosk couldn’t have been because the sword wasn’t yet impregnated with venom when Harry stabbed its brain. If it had been a horcrux he wouldn’t have been able to do that. Unless some dripped on the blade as Harry was stabbing it, but that seems unlikely.
@matheusmterra
@matheusmterra Ай бұрын
It is my head canon that the opal necklace is Herpo's Horcrux.
@Nemusplanta
@Nemusplanta Ай бұрын
horcrux protecs one soul if something happens to the physical body nobody has ever said that it stops dying from old age?
@chandansimms9167
@chandansimms9167 28 күн бұрын
Just because he was a dark wizard doesn’t mean he had too be evil in the same vein of light as Voldemort: he could have just been a wizard who prioritised the wizard race amidst the persecution by the muggles. Maybe his Horcrux was due too killing a muffle during battle and not out of any senseless killing
@johnsimon3353
@johnsimon3353 Ай бұрын
There is a problem about herpo being Salazar’s ancestor you said he is from the 16th century but Salazar is from the 10th century making Salazar older then his so called ancestor
@lewis1423
@lewis1423 Ай бұрын
voldmort really did not seam to have a solid plan to revive himself using the horcruxes, so i love to believe that anyone who made one in the past is still alive but just dose not know how to get a new physical body. ps i wonder if the diary was a horcux trying to revive itsself or if that was a whole diffrent issue,
@manfredgesink8514
@manfredgesink8514 Ай бұрын
Erm the basilisk in the secret chamber was slain....
@mg-ew2xf
@mg-ew2xf Ай бұрын
Sounds French Canadian. You know why I think he went bad? I bet his mom gave him up as a kid. "sacre bleu where is me mama"
@WilliamWizer
@WilliamWizer Ай бұрын
we are forgetting the most simple and logical answer. Voldemort was stupid enough to use objects that had relevance to him but, Herpo may had been more logical and hide his horcrux into something that nobody would pay attention to. that would imply that herpo is alive but we can be quite certain that he isn't given that nobody has seen or hear about him in who knows how long. this poses the posibility that herpo's horcrux was destroyed at some point even before harry was born.
@chadpeterson5698
@chadpeterson5698 Ай бұрын
Herpo seems to be a smart guy, he was probably laying low.
@luckyowl6432
@luckyowl6432 Ай бұрын
I think he was that slightly suspicious ice cream man
@markd774
@markd774 Ай бұрын
Herpo the foul sounds like an STI!
@winters-ghost89
@winters-ghost89 Ай бұрын
There must have been more made because how eles would we know if at least 3 different ways to destroy them so some have been destroyed before
@AJ-vm8ft
@AJ-vm8ft Ай бұрын
Where does this lore come from? An actual, singular, person created the HP Universe.
@creepingdread88
@creepingdread88 Ай бұрын
The first 'horcrux' was Sauron's ring. Just one of the many ideas JK Rowling took from Tolkien.
@miniboy23
@miniboy23 Ай бұрын
when yu read it it reminded you of a horcrux? that info wasn't revealed then.
@LyleFrancisDelp
@LyleFrancisDelp Ай бұрын
As he doesn’t appear in the books, where does Herpo appear in canon?
@chadpeterson5698
@chadpeterson5698 Ай бұрын
He’s a character who appears in the background of Harry Potter canon.
@LyleFrancisDelp
@LyleFrancisDelp Ай бұрын
@@chadpeterson5698 Where? I had already assumed his name appeared in background canon, but.....where?
@spi6455
@spi6455 Ай бұрын
"Only two or three" created horcrux ... then you named 2 wizards, plus Voldemort, so that's at least 3. So it would be better stated as "At least 3..."
@havilar3095
@havilar3095 Ай бұрын
I think he made the venom of his creation. powerful enough to destroy. His other creation with that very reaon in mind. Eather so that should some eals learn to mae one and then do so. He could destroy it and tack them out. Or because he knew at some point he may want a way out. Then to destroy his own when he is ready! Maybe both reasons?...
@dankster990
@dankster990 Ай бұрын
How it goes when someone creates spell?
@jimschuler8830
@jimschuler8830 Ай бұрын
The argument for the opal necklace is incredibly weak; you're going to find mythologies for various gemstones across ancient civilizations. It was the British, though, who specifically associated opals with death starting in the 1800's;. So, an opal necklace that kills you if you touch it would be a reference to English mythology rather than Greek.
@JesusFreak89
@JesusFreak89 Ай бұрын
What if someone turned hogwarts itself into a horcrux 😮
@MoeAli-bw1uf
@MoeAli-bw1uf Ай бұрын
Its messed up if u bite your tongue u die if your a basalisk
@Romanskeet
@Romanskeet Ай бұрын
How did witchcraft etc start in that universe?
@greatestgoalie25
@greatestgoalie25 Ай бұрын
666K fans. What a number.
@internetcontrolunit1
@internetcontrolunit1 Ай бұрын
didn't albus make one
@marvolomethod
@marvolomethod Ай бұрын
Herron is the original dark wizard to do evil ,, or iv heard
@souldragin5497
@souldragin5497 Ай бұрын
I dont think so some one had to find out how to dester a horcux i think someone find his and xeparmnt on it to find how to dester them
@CaptainCarrot100
@CaptainCarrot100 Ай бұрын
With you on this, but I believe the creator is also the destroyer! Create one, find out how to destroy it so you can make the next stronger. Create another, destroy it. Repeat again and again until you feel remorse from all the murders thus repairing the soul and destroying the final horcrux???
@21thatsall
@21thatsall Ай бұрын
Ok if
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