The Death Drive Denomination

[@cameronsmith8775]

Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You! Peter, this was a tour de force. I’m so glad I was able to understand like 90% of this talk. The work that you have done is amazing. More people need to hear these ideas.

[@TheOrthodoxHeretic]

Thank you so much for your comment!

[@sketchesoharlem]

I really appreciate the discussion at 33:00 on Tillich, Ultimate Concern and its connection to Lagan’s Signifiers. I’ve been trying understand this concept and to intuit what those signifiers are for myself, using advice from your book Idolatry of God. I’ve been using my dreams and those moments where my conscious fiction is misaligned with my reality, to observe these signifiers and seek insight on what drives me unconsciously. I appreciate your help articulating this journey, thanks as always, looking forward to your next talk.

[@BlakeBaggott]

Loved this so much. This is such important work. Can’t wait for the book.

[@TheOrthodoxHeretic]

Thank you!

[@IsaacGolle]

In 'Cat's Cradle' Kurt Vonnegut created the religion 'Bokononism' which is mostly an acknowledgement of the absurdity of being alive. One of my favorites is the parable of Bokonon in which God creates man, man asks God 'what is the meaning of all this' God says, 'everything must have meaning?' man says, 'of course' God replies with 'then I leave it with you to think of one for this' and promptly disappears. I see elements of Vonnegut and his general comedic pokes at the futility of existence in the church of the contradiction. But am I correct in thinking the distinction is as follows? CCON and pyro/radical theology assert that the divine, while existing, experiences the same lack as humanity, and the experience of existence is one of embracing unknown/lack, and learning to enjoy it. Where Vonnegut would definitely assert a lack to be embraced, but the lack is the divine itself(i.e. the divine is not there) and the experience of existence is one of embracing the divine's non-existence.

[@TheOrthodoxHeretic]

Very interesting... I might be closer to Vonnegut's position than you think!

[@IsaacGolle]

@@TheOrthodoxHeretic interesting! Somehow I find the aforementioned parable very comforting. Is that 'enjoying the lack'?

[@Chip87]

Please look in to Hunter Hunt-Hendrix’s theological work on Universal Orthodoxy, I’d love to see you two talk religion sometime

[@suburbangothic_sublimedivine]

Wonderful. "Traditional notions of the Sublime conjure up images of profound moments that leave our souls simultaneously humbled and ablaze; burning with an exquisite mix of awe and terror through encounters with the forces greater than ourselves; wild storms and raging bushfires, the infinite spiral galaxy of stars above. It is the realm of Otto’s Numinosum, the metaphysical, sacred, and transcendent dimension, the experience of mystery, fear, awe, beauty and majesty. The sublime echoes in the energies that pulse around and through us, at the precipices and edges of existence, in encounters with spirit, death and rebirth. As a woman who traverses the psyche of our imitate spaces, the sublime manifests in the moon and her power to move the ocean as she mirrors the rhythms of lifeblood through a woman’s body. The sublime meets us through fever dreams and visionary experiences, in spinning suburban car crashes and breathtaking orgasms, in the agony and ecstasy of childbirth*. It is the light that breaks through after breakdowns, imbuing the shadows of life with alchemic transformations of beauty and meaning beyond ourselves." x tanja.