The Death of NFL Star Will Smith

In this episode of Red Cards, a fender bender gets carried away, leading to the death of New Orleans Saints defensive end, Will Smith. The perpetrator claimed self defense, saying Smith was the aggressor. Renowned defensive end Will Smith was leaving the French Quarter Festival when security cameras show him lightly rear ending another vehicle.
An altercation ensued, culminating in the other driver, Cardell Hayes firing shots at Smith and his wife, killing the retired football player. Smith family publicist, Lauren Renschler, called it “sick irony” that a New Orleans icon would die in the most typical New Orleans fashion - murder by gun violence. When Hayes was convicted, some rejoiced, while others wondered what would have happened if the roles were reversed, and “Saint Will” was the one claiming self defense.
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[@DD-pu9wu]

"only two people know what happened that night". 30 seconds later... "multiple people get out of the car". wat a joke this is

[@lindaperkins5038]

D D that was strange

[@sfootz]

I shook my head as soon as he said that

[@godfathaofyo]

Thats VICE's journalism

[@robloxer6808]

If you had any sort of comprehension skills you would have heard that they spoke to each other behind the Hummer by themselves....so only the two of them know if he was actually going to the car for a gun.

[@Paaka]

New Orleans laws are different if no one testified against him in 60 days he walks free regardless what evidence they have

[@pug5967]

Emptying a clip into the BACK of someone leaving is crazy

[@CourageUnderFire87]

AND shooting their wife but claiming self defense

[@cedricbeard4609]

They were going to get a gun, after Will Smith attacked Cardell Hayes!!!

[@orentajarreau4392]

Leaving!? or going to retrieve the gun that was in his center console? It could be detrimental for a person to wait and see which one it actually is

[@orentajarreau4392]

If Cardell was a cop, he would have gone home that night

[@cedricbeard4609]

@@orentajarreau4392 so refreshing to know there are reasonable people out there. Cardell got rear ended, by a drunken, angry man who was about to get his weapon.

[@user-ei2is7yx9y]

An argument, swinging arms, and taking a shirt off ain’t a reason to shoot somebody in the back 7 times…no matter what…this is sad all the way around

[@craigsilver9]

I no longer engage when people get crazy with me on the road. I just let it go. I have a life. I lose absolutely nothing because some stranger in his car insulted me, "punked me" or whatever. Just let it go and think about your life. You will never see these crazy people again after a few seconds. If it is a hit and run, just get the plate #. There are a lot of unstable people that will shoot over anything. Stay safe, and blessed

[@dp7047]

Late response: But yes, you are correct. Especially in Chicago where they are killing people in mass on the expressway for road rage. I beep my horn and keep it moving. My life is too important to me to get crazy over somebody cutting me off in traffic

[@Listening4n0w]

True wisdom.

[@deborahwilliamson5655]

Wonderful advice!!!

[@deborahwilliamson5655]

@@dp7047 Sometimes it's best to even skip the horn beep. For some crazies that's enough to get you dead.

[@tupelomississippiflash968]

Road rage . helps no 1 . bottom line . no car is worth a man's life .

[@Truthbetold-777]

Very well said...Hayes could have sat in his car and called the cops but he chose to go get his gun.

[@MultiMe2013]

GOOD GOD YOU ARE DENSE. CAN YOU NOT SEE BEYOND YOUR FUCKN NOSE? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ROAD RAGE OR A CAR. THIS IS AMERICA.

[@kwii22789]

@Danny Branderson Drunk drivers do that. Almost every single time. Had it happen to me at a red light.

[@cjlawlor95]

@Danny Branderson I agree

[@504Diva]

@Danny Branderson Drunk people, Public Figures, Politicians, Teachers, Doctors- people with a lot to loose.

[@ct5951]

He should've just called the police and given them the license plate and description of the vehicle.

[@Outtapocket666]

Rack City Duh stop snitching stop lying

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

Daddy Kim 🙄FOH

[@dwaynewarren866]

Yeah in hind site that sounds good what we do and what we should have done is two different things I know one thing he's sorry now

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

Rack City Duh yup true

[@umartal9958]

@Jason Street What's killing all the euroamericans? Besides oxy?

[@robertbernal963]

The fact that the shooters friend tries to say he's friend was calm if he was calm he wouldn't of ram into smiths car after smith tried to leave the scene i think that made everything worst

[@cedricbeard4609]

Yall are blind and biased. Will Smith ran into him! Will Smith was the one who got out acting aggressively! Will Smith’s vehicle was also MISSING a rear license plate! Cardell couldn’t simply get the license plate and turn the information over to the Police! If this was Rashee Rice or Jon Jones some of you would see the hypocritical double standard 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Marioso256]

Confrontation is inevitable, combat is optional. Sad situation.

[@courtnie889]

This whole story is unfortunate. Smith should have pulled over once he bumped the car. But even though he didn't Hayes should have never bumped his vehicle in retaliation. Lives forever changed over a vehicle bump that probably did little to no damage, smh.

[@ryapowa]

And people shouldn't try to be vigilantes like Hayes. Call the cops and let the law handle it for you, maybe following Smith just enough to give the police the information they need

[@Godistheanswerministries]

Right.

[@dudemusstinkmeyer9843]

@@ryapowa very valid and good comment.

[@ryapowa]

@@dudemusstinkmeyer9843 I mean I'm sure that's not how someone might think in New Orleans but it's sickening for anyone who tries to justify the means of taking someone's life. Smith wasn't an immediate threat and Hayes could've been the bigger person and call the police if he feared that Smith was getting a gun from his car. THERE WERE OTHER OPTIONS.

[@ryapowa]

@henree simp True but how he retaliated after Smith just left is classified as Vehicular Assault and Smith was justifiably upset as a result of purposely getting rammed into. I'm not saying what either one of them did was right, but committing multiple crimes including murder means you need to spend some time in prison. There were other options.

[@joeyl3658]

Bro i see both sides but the man didnt have to empty the clip on him..

[@ryujetra5668]

Take more bullets for big people to be stopped. If someone is going for their gun you continue to shoot until that person stops .

[@anitregaines]

I think that's where the conflict come in at ... man but the city is torn about this. Even me .

[@keemboogie9155]

Joey this fucked up... u can’t shoot somebody in the ass and keep it moving

[@Disgruntled-Trucker]

Police empty the clip on you.

[@eddieantley3723]

@@ryujetra5668 Dude was going back to the car he shoot the man 7 time in the back

[@catinacatina1446]

He lost his dignity, but Will lost his life! He shot that man 7 times and also shot his wife.

[@brotherfugue]

You get the license plate, call it in, talk to an officer, file a claim with your insurance company, get it into a repair shop, live another day.

[@HomeVidEdd]

Exactly what I was thinking since the beginning of the video

[@sickojayyy221]

Smith was intoxicated, you know what happens when people are under the influence of alcohol they don't think rationally

[@VivaLaGolf42]

@@sickojayyy221 he’s saying Hayes should’ve done this.

[@shermanmiller3203]

Most sensible comment in this thread, thank you 🙏🏾

[@leemcr1894]

Brotherf... Best advice/comment I've seen on here by Miles and Miles Bro'! It's also my course of action if ever necessary? Although I'm English, living in England. I visit Vancouver alot, to see family? But they don't have as many guns as Americans.

[@JReece3000]

Unfortunately, once your attacker is fleeing it’s no longer self defense... ...unless you’re in Florida.

[@tonye2920]

Going to grab a gun isn't fleeing

[@ItsInMeAndOnMe]

fleeing to get his gun yeah lol

[@jonathannorton7972]

Lmfao not just Florida go to Texas, Montana,Wyoming,Idaho,North Dakota, i could name 12 stand your ground states not Florida

[@goatkc6838]

Missouri too

[@serbiseedafos4272]

Jay Reece noob Florida is not a dangerous state at all, every state and every country you fool

[@Maxdouble07]

All over a simple bump on a vehicle. Senseless so senseless

[@spazarellapoet8735]

Max right a bump to a hummer ain't no big deal probably didn't even scratch or dent it both of them over acted

[@lkb4781]

When keeping it real goes wrong

[@notsoclean5459]

That car cost more than yo house

[@jamjohn1802]

@@spazarellapoet8735 And the fact of the matter is, Cardell rammed his vehicle back. Then proceeded to exit his vehicle, so where was he in fear of anything??

[@bertda3rd504]

It was road rage the bump was on purpose to get him out the car

[@pac4prez172]

I remember when this happened, but never knew how complicated it was. I hope that guy's little son turns out okay

[@carolinab5527]

i feel so bad for the kids because they both lost their fathers (even though one is locked up). pride and ego destroy two families. when you have kids you think about them and you don’t let your ego & pride get the best of you.

[@supernova2897]

...and allowing civilians to carry guns....we all go through life stressors...if most countries permitted civilians to carry, this wld happen more often across the globe

[@cjoverit4377]

Carolina ego and pride are basic psychological functions that all of us homosapiens have at one time or another. To say that your ego nor YOUR pride play a role in "getting the best of you" (as you claim) is an extremely egotistical and prideful response in its own right.

[@cjoverit4377]

Taking away our guns and such will do NOTHING to help curb violence and murder in this or any other country. In fact it would cause the EXACT OPPOSITE, by making it impossible for the FEW law-abiding citizen to arm and defend themselves against the MANY ARMED criminals who can/will carry firearms illegally. For some wild and crazy reason people think banning/criminalizing a particular thing (A.K.A firearm) and/or action will actually stop future criminals from getting their hands on a firearm or other weapons. Just look at the 'War on drugs' BS, even though Nancy Reagan demonized drugs and drug use, it did NOTHING to help the situation, only causing more agony as it became more & more dangerous and lucrative to smuggle, sell, buy and use drugs

[@brianwalsh1401]

I agree but you left out anger, alcohol and easy access to a gun which adds up for a recipe for a disaster. think of how many road rage incidents go to 100 in 2 seconds if there is a gun available.

[@MM-lo8dn]

@@supernova2897 law abiding citizens don't shoot people when they're angry. Had Will Smith shot in self defense, then people would praise him. Regardless where you go in the world, angry people are going to do harmful things to others whether it's with a gun, knife, etc

[@juggahknot]

Alcohol and EGO do not mix well,,,,,,,especially while driving!

[@fendertremolo9793]

Anger & Guns don't mix well either

[@EddieKanelll]

Man!

[@GetUrOwnHandle]

Alcohol Ego Driving + Football player paid Millions to be aggressive - what a mix... And To make it worse, his friend was a catalyst fueling the situation even further 😪

[@alcindorodriguesferrer7057]

" 7 Shots in the back of a person walking away will land you in prison." " 7 Shots in the back of a person walking away will land you in prison."

[@DatBoyIsAvirgin]

@@shinski8114 what else you nimrod

[@yuupppdre9069]

That's y I try to drive without road rage... these days everyone carries guns and when u get heated u kinda don't know how to think straight... that being said, it's so hard not to get in rage with stupid drivers

[@dongiovi4849]

There's a Memphis PD car at every exit between I-40/55/240 enforced because of road shootings. Today. Sad

[@MalloriDan]

Yup

[@airess1]

Same here even if im not wrong, as long as nobody is hurt, I let it go. People have cut me off and then catch an attitude with me. Shoot me the finger. I ignored it. Ego is what puts us in jail or the grave. Boondocks episode for it. A Ni66a moment

[@bandzbruno8409]

People are getting weak without weapons nowadays I guess gunslinging is back and the theme of the wild Wild West

[@HoneySuckle123]

When the youth start tattooing their body they are preparing for war….

[@julie.1081]

This falls into the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" category. If people would just slow down, keep calm & try to talk things out instead of going from 0 to 100 in under a second, a lot of murders would never happen.

[@alaska4joe]

Bravo, very well made documentary. I have a better perspective and feel bad about the animosity I felt for Hayes. It wasn’t that simple

[@jamaicanworld4598]

Why Martin Luther King Blvd in every state is the place where you don't really wanna go, it always run through the hoods

[@newtothis3418]

Chris Rock said the same thing.

[@stephaniemurria5534]

Truth

[@HoneyBee4163]

Because Martin Luther King is viewed as only a hero of the black community. It is up to us to give it the reverance he deserves. Its up to us to stop violence in our community. It starts small...beautify the Blvd...clean it...plant grass and hedges...petition the city for lighting and for regular sweeping...gather college students or local churches to paint the old people's houses...reroof with grants. We gotta take pride and stop waiting for others.

[@BigQCoach]

Fact

[@Dabridge703]

It's not coincidence. Just like how black history month is in the shortest month of the yr.

[@MR-in8bl]

Holy shit, I though the pic of Hayes was his kid, they're literally twins.

[@Lefty1x]

The number of shots and he didn’t miss.... that put him away

[@redred7136]

If smith had a gun in his car and was turning to get it I’d say it’s self defense. Problem here is hayes hopped out the car with the gun which shows intent he was gonna use it imo.

[@tigershark8657]

I FEEL YOU MRS. HAYES!! BUT YOUR SON DIDNT HAVE TO SHOOT WILL SMITH 7 TIMES IN THE BACK THO

[@camdrummond4649]

Exactly

[@levilively8643]

If you are in fear for your life, are you going to shoot to injure them? Or are you going to stop a threat? This same mindset can be applied to police shootings.

[@nelixsulu6201]

I hate when people make excuses for people just cause they’re family. Hell, the children of serial killers have more sympathy than her

[@jasonhoyer7475]

It's kind of weird hearing about the killer's family.....he Stop football to work and now he's driving a Hummer🙁🙁🙁🙁he must have got a good ass job

[@CoachK_]

I don’t feel her at all, at the end of the day her son is still alive..

[@BasicTruth1109]

They also never explained why did Mr Hayes get out with a gun. If a police officer had shot a black man in the back several times, we all would have raised hell

[@TRIPP98]

He got out with the gun because the gun is what made him feel empowered in the first place, if he didn’t have the gun he wouldn’t have gotten out of his car.

[@donmon808]

@@TRIPP98 what kind of stupid thinking is that?

[@ryapowa]

@@TRIPP98 That's stupid logic and is only making a bad situation worse. You shouldn't need to be holding a gun to feel like a man, there were people around and if he really got attacked by Will Smith, he could've just had them call the cops, write down the license plate number, and let the law handle your business for you.

[@Aaronbell-je7bj]

Do you know Louisiana. They say them boys don't play. No man plays these days. He's legally not guilty they said. Things happen sometimes you don't need to go for the juggler. Weighing options.

[@verlinsupersaintcasey6494]

@@ryapowa you said the same thing you were disputing! Yes, you shouldn't need that but he did exit with it instead of leaving it in the truck. The Biggest Question is why wasn't he nor his partner calling it in at the time of Smith trying to flee the scene of an accident? That gave the court system a lane of intent to do harm charges to sure up the conviction and override that dumb ass stand your ground law (which I keep trying to tell my people it wasn't made for us). Again if there were no guns in play would he still have stood his ground or naw? And I already know for those who know the youngman, more than likely you say he would still stand his ground without it. Then why bring the gun into play? Why out of all the witnesses around that were told to call them boys after the shooting, never saw Smith with nor flash a gun. Where I'm at that means that a drunk old man is on the verge of a severe beating until them boys show up. Just think with one decision how much different things would have gone. Smith jailed for driving under the influence and hit and run. But both men alive to raise their children, but black male seperation from the family unit has been a plan in effect for centuries!

[@jamisonsmith9761]

At the end of the day we lost two black men one to the Grave one to the penitentiary

[@theavatarwars1044]

All because of chemtrail induced violence....

[@jesusdiscipledon1499]

Jamison Smith and all the whities laughed and laughed and laughed. We gave them a 2 for 1 special. Bullshit.

[@jesusdiscipledon1499]

Diss ClayCoCamm more like CTE

[@googzgag]

Turok, not the dinosaur hunter, the adult film star Don’t say all the whites laughed because all white people are not the same. I get no enjoyment out of this and feel horrible for Smith’s family and the saints

[@toyboyharris2481]

Jamison Smith niggas will never learn. The black man is rising up and waking up.

[@martinezmccurry6751]

This is sad. And I feel sorry for both families. But if I was will having a 90 million dollar contract. I would have pulled over after bumping that man car and offered to buy him a new one. Poor decision making on both sides. SMH

[@Jhony-cq8oq]

You don't know what you would have done in the Sprit of a heated moment...boy please.

[@victorruffin9672]

That would be the logical thing to do, but he wasn't in his right mind. He was drunk and made bad decisions. 1. Getting behind the wheel. 2. Hit and run. 3. Getting out your vehicle wanting to fight the person whose car you hit. Alcohol changes your thinking. That's why it's against the law to drive drunk. Ijs

[@zoroarkissueregion]

There is an update in the case: On January 11, 2021, the Supreme Court vacated Hayes' conviction, pending a new trial. Because Hayes was initially convicted on manslaughter, he cannot face charges greater than manslaughter in the retrial

[@mikefields7615]

Wow him and his son look 100000 percent alike.

[@natashaubilez-mcqueeney1718]

Spitting image

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

Splitting image.

[@nene8369]

Will smith was the aggressor but hayes did a bad judgement call by killing smith...dang.. Two families affected by this horrible nightmare😢😪😥

[@baconator6374]

Yes

[@Tallie90]

He should not have killed Will Smith over material stuff. So he's locked he's in the right place.

[@redruby2223]

@Goedde ol well now the killer is stuck smelling someone else's stinky facts and shit and pics for yrs

[@rummymossberg6097]

@@Tallie90 he didnt kill him over material things. He believed his live was from in danger from a man who was intoxicated. He tried to diffuse the situation but again this dude was a women abuser. So if you never been in a situation like this someone who is under the influence who was an aggressor n going to the car he was fleeing he was getting his gun to kill this young man. Real talk what cold blooded killer sit at the crime scene and waits.

[@susiepace2125]

First bad judgement call was Will Smith, hitting the back of a car and fleeing. 3 people in his car and nobody have enough common sense to tell him to stop? They jump out the car and become the aggressors. Cardell was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. It is clear Smith seemed to believe he was above the law. If Cardell was White, he would have been free today.

[@flownicely6035]

This entire situation is absolutely awful.

[@sonn5574]

Cardell has been released today the Orleans parish court failed him supreme court didnt welcome home

[@BankofBruh]

Welcome Home

[@dee4nola]

Going back in today

[@WalleLlama]

It's just said to see 2 lives lost over something that could have been settled with a conversation.

[@jaredbrown1148]

You can't have a conversation with alcohol. Especially 2 times over the legal limit to drive a vehicle

[@jimmyhaley727]

liquor will kill many and for stupid reasons,,, drugs, Ect.,

[@violetdivinespiritualreadi1824]

Dude should not be in jail how many white people killed football players and black people unjustly and got away with it matter of fact a white man in Louisiana killed a football player under the same stand your ground law and got away its a law created for rich people and white people had the black man been rich it would be a different story its all about money and color

[@billgray3796]

violet divine spiritual readings Reiki practitioner ...dass rite !!!....

[@shamrondoiley6158]

I agree just talk it out damn

[@charleswade9669]

Either way, shots shouldn't have been fired.

[@poex9796]

Charles Wade Think about it. You arguing with someone and they go back to their car. They probably going to get something to hurt you. So in Cardell mind it’s shoot him before he shoots me. Plus Will Smith had a loaded firearm in his car!!!!

[@philtherealdeal100]

6'5 drunk and belligerent and hit and run.....you would be scared shitless

[@tsd4831]

Charles Wade think about it it was self defense basically since he was a dominant and big superstar for football and was rich all of the fingers were pointed at Hayes not saying what he did was right but still it was self defense

[@traceyjacques2189]

"Amen"

[@traceyjacques2189]

@@tsd4831 SHOOTING A GUN 7 TIMES IS NEVER SELF DEFENSE. YOUR INSANE FOR THINKING SO. HAYES IS CLEARLY GUILTY AS SIN!!!!

[@khamNkhysmommie]

This couldve all been avoided! I knew it had to be something like Smith being intoxicated the reason he hit them and ran. But going after him to the point where it ended in someones death and your life being gone couldve been avoided by getting his tag number and calling the police. Yea i get it, i wouldve been heated too if somebody hit me and ran. But life is so much more important. You can get your car fixed, but 2 people lives are gone! You didnt shoot once, but you shot 8 times and made sure this man was dead. He probably thought Smith was heading back to get a gun, but damn...... 8 times!!!!!! Sad situation!

[@almadeunrebel]

He didn’t run he pulled off half a block of the main strip where it happened

[@isitoveryet9525]

Most altercations like this can be avoided….but humans are emotional beings, & some handle those emotions better than others. There are prisons all over the globe, full of people who got overly emotional & couldn’t keep it in check.

[@kevenwoods3207]

I feel bad for cardell mother,he is where he's at because you shot a man in back 7 times you can't justify that in no kind of way, you just can't

[@KoolRunnings09]

Cops can unfortunately

[@owens781781]

This is exactly what I was thinking, but then I finished the video, and they mentioned how Will Smith threatened to grab a gun from his car and that they did later find a loaded one in his car

[@TLR1988]

​@@owens781781lol so you're saying that you get to kill someone because they said they'd get a gun. This idiot could've got back in his vehicle and he'd still be playing amateur football somewhere.

[@muchkasolo8915]

"Everybody gone respect the shooter But the one in front of the gun lives forever" -Kendrick Lamar

[@sithkilla8223]

What song is that verse from that is amazing!

[@tylerponyboytrigg]

Christian Menier Money Trees

[@JourTheeOnly]

The Kasolo it doesn't fit tho

[@jesseevans8830]

@@sithkilla8223 old kendrick is a experence his story telling is insane and his flows check out some more songs by him like look out for detox, cartoons and cereal, and blacker the berry.

[@mmamusic9634]

So who respects this shooter? Not me.

[@killakalasnikov4345]

Proverbs 16:18 (KJV) Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

[@gregbartleman6372]

Such a horrible tragedy. Will smith made the first mistake but Cardell Jones made the last one. He is where he needs to be.

[@vinewood8295]

Dude was driving drunk AF, rear ended the other dude and then left the scene, FOUL Chasin dude down and rammin the back of his car in retaliation was also FOUL. Coulda been settled easily without the use of firearms BUT...

[@duanejessup3708]

This situation pulls your strings in both ways. You can see Right and wrong in both in all the aspects. As a full time Dad to children it hurts me to see children from both without there Dads in there lives. No one wins when there no Dad in the picture.

[@shawngoshorn6611]

💯% right!!!

[@duanejessup3708]

Rewatching this 1 year later and i still feel and have the same thoughts n emotions over this whole situation. Im very happy to know that both Dads children r very loved and supported by there families, i hope n pray that Cordell when allowed out still has the same ways about himself before he went to prison cuss prison will change you and sometimes it's forthe worse but i can see he was raised by a Great mom and has a tight nit family n friends. Dam still sux tho #91 Who Dat

[@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE]

Will Smith son will never see his father again.

[@MauriceTyler]

@@duanejessup3708 Again, he is innocent. Don’t cry for Will Smith; he was violent and a loser on the field. Only one championship equals frustration. How many times has he avoided arrest? This is a trial. He should have one the first trial. I was in New York without my law license being active. John Fuller seeks publicity not zealous representation. Check out the jury instructions. Flawed/ . Automatic reversal which means innocence and a lawsuit against all involved. Period. Check out federal case number 18-cv-2575. My case. Victim and Pro Se Litigator. I’ve sued Louisiana in New York federal court. You’ve been served. #greatness, #thedevilishone, #jwmi. Smooth Justice.

[@yannissapim4102]

To be honest I see both sides but you've killed someone...

[@xinimon]

I'm guessing you didn't watch the video.

[@xinimon]

Le o the whole video was literally talking about the case and the evidence wtf

[@leomatsuoka7625]

d d yeah but I thought he was innocent for self defence

[@leomatsuoka7625]

Ray pasking there were 3 people ready to attack him and your suggesting that he gets the license plate and reports them later Remember smith was also the one who hit him first and took off

[@casey7128]

In self defense

[@lonniecolon941]

Amazing piece. Such a tragic story.

[@davidpeterson9287]

Bless that poor moms heart, she’s a beautiful woman that deserves some sort of happiness... sad

[@GoofyJuice]

this some good ass filmmaking

[@carichar87]

It really was

[@dustinwillett6835]

dbag0584 who calls someone a big dumb dumb lmao 🙄

[@TMMGamez]

Dustin Willett who uses lol in all caps

[@leorickt.9604]

Speak properly

[@noneofyourbusiness3286]

You seem like a fun friend to have around.

[@marshallamp682]

The fact that the dude stayed on the scene after the shooting is hugely unusual. Typically, a killer will flee. Sounds like the Saint was no saint.

[@laydklela9111]

I think he thought it was going to be Self Defense but 8 shots lost that fight.

[@j.riffney7939]

Infact the person that fled was Instigator Hernandez, Drunk Driver Will Smiths friend.

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

@@laydklela9111 yup

[@dlt9784]

@@laydklela9111 why if I'm truly afraid that he's going to get a gun

[@ms.kaybrownbeauty4291]

You sound dumb just because he didn’t run doesn’t mean anything HE SHOT HIM 7-8 TIMES NO EXCUSES I DONT FREL SORRY FOR HIM I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PERSON WHO IS NO LONGER LIVING YOUR SON IS STILL ALIVE HE MAY BE LOCKED UP HOWEVER HE’S STILL LIVING WILL SMITH IS NOT

[@guillermopatlan3918]

Senseless.

[@sharonpatterson2223]

He was released like 5 months ago. He's getting a new trial. Supreme Court ruled it was unconstitutional because he had a 10/2 split.

[@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE]

And yet will smith is still dead. Smh

[@ASimpleHeroinUser]

@@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE he was a piece of shit. don't idolize athletes and celebrities

[@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE]

@@ASimpleHeroinUser I'm not idolizeing anyone just stating a fact even if he was a piece of shit no one deserves to get shot in the back 7 times for a little 80 dollar fender bender and was his wife such a piece if shit she deserved to get shot also in your opinion? Will has also done alot of good for new orleans but I'm sure u forget that

[@serbiastrong6238]

Thank god. Saints pulled some bullshit in that court

[@gang7708]

@@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE will was drunk and I’m pretty sure he was headed back to the truck to get his loaded weapon…. A person that was already swinging on the guy and now about to get a gun… yea I say that’s self defense… self defense is when you fear for your life

[@loudini2695]

I Feel Bad for his Mom Seems like a Sweet Lady

[@Mike9201984]

yeah Me Too I Feel the Same way. But sometimes Bad Things happen to Good People.

[@duanecarver2976]

I dont. This guy grew up without a father, so he had to give up his dreams to help her with her struggle.

[@Citizenshane81]

Duane Carver Amen!!!

[@tdotlegend92]

Creole my man something bout the people here in New orleans

[@terrancevaughan5254]

I don't her son killed a man..over kill smh

[@BearFacedTV]

Learning lesson. Both these Men should have went home that night.

[@nachor177]

Duse Zahid El one should’ve gone home and the other one to jail for drunk driving!!!

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

Will Smith could of killed someone dont defend drunk drivers.

[@Itsrebekahstar]

Gun residue on his hands? So he shot his gun earlier. He beat his wife too as many nfl players do (cte)... they need to expose Will Smith & get this guy out of jail.

[@ethangameing-robloxfortnit9889]

R to kfofkt

[@lailonnietukes4456]

@@Itsrebekahstar No he deserve to serve his time for murder..He shot a man 8 times in the back..Why do you think he doesn't deserve to serve his sentence?🤔

[@malcolmexxx2109]

it’s a sad situation but Smith doesn’t deserve special treatment because he’s a notable figure.

[@dell7443]

It seems like will started. He hit dude truck and drove off. No accountability. He deserved to be in the ground. Get Hayes outta jail now. Period

[@theodorebaker5483]

YOU ARE RIGHT. HOWEVER, EXPLAIN TO ME, THE KILLER SHOT THIS GUY WIFE AND SHOT THE HUSBAND 7 TIMES IN THE BACK AND SUPPOSE TO BUCK ASS GO HOME FREE. THIS WAS NOT A CASE OF TWO MEN FIRING A WEAPON AT EACH OTHER, THE KILLER SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRYING A WEAPON AND FIRING IT. THE KILLER COULD HAVE JUST CALLED THE COP, BUT INSTEAD HE WENT AFTER THE DRUNK DRIVER AND FIRED 7 TIMES IN THE MAN BACK, IT WAS NOT JUST 1 SHOT, BUT 7 TIMES AND SHOT THE MAN WIFE. FUCK THE HITTING OF THE CAR, WAS IT WORTH THAT MAN LIFE AND HIM SERVING TIME. TO KEEP FIRING INTO THIS MAN BACKAND KEPT ON SHOOTING IS DEAD ASS WRONG. WHERE WAS HIS LIFE IN DANGER WHEN HE IS THE ONLY ONE FIRING HIS FUCKING GUN. HE IS WHERE HE SUPPOSE TO BE.

[@dell7443]

@@theodorebaker5483 see your logic alone let's me know you live in a millionaire mansion...here's a life lesson for you...the rules of engagement. 1. Nobody cares about him being drunk as Will chose to drink and drive 2. The pulled out his weapon after Will aggressively hit his car and kept driving instead of pulling over and exchanging insurance info 3. Will was with his wife so 9 times out of 10 will was probably showing off and threaten dude 4. The pulled his weapon out and I wouldn't let you back to your car because I don't know if you have a weapon in your car 5. You ALWAYS shoot to kill and not injure 6. Will had ample opportunities to do the right prior to the shooting and simply choose not to. 7. His wife had ample opportunities to do the right thing and she simply chose not 8. RIP Will, you play stupid games and win stupid prizes

[@camdrummond4649]

@@dell7443 ☝🏽

[@fredajordan5704]

Malcolm Exxx : Exactly.

[@Blaze_srt]

If he was in the car with his teammate and his wife, why is only his wife being mentioned as someone trying to stop her husband and not the teammate. There’s a big problem right there and definitely could’ve been avoided had said teammate intervened. Pathetic

[@yoladock4505]

He did intervene

[@CourageUnderFire87]

NO the question to ask is why did Hayes abruptly stop his car abruptly and for no reason! He did that intentionally to lure Smith out his car! Hayes was stalking the police officer that killed his dad saw Smith having dinner with the officer and decided to seek revenge!

[@IsisSummerRain]

@@CourageUnderFire87really ? How do you know that information interesting

[@harvey2609]

No other option?!?!? Get back in your car and drive away!!!! Live to fight another day.

[@45blacksocrates]

Thank you

[@honeyblonde061]

This really breaks my heart. This could've been avoided point blank period. Two lives lost. I'm in tears.

[@theferretgalfeatures4394]

I live here & love NFl & our Saints.. I'll never forget this.

[@samuri119]

I never knew the story of Mr. Hayes. It sounds like he was delt a unfair hand. The key is to never put your fait in the hands of the court system if possible. There were no winners in the situation. Condolences

[@TLR1988]

Lol unfair? He chose to slam into their car as well as get the gun out of the car. He chose to keep shooting after the man was shot 8 times and wife was shot. He could've got back in the car and he damn sure didn't have to keep shooting. I'm glad he's guilty AGAIN and hope he never gets out.

[@YungJ]

Y’all saying 8 shots is excessive - cops double that number against victims that DON’T have a weapon, and they get away with it.

[@danielbutcher8108]

I am not justifying that bullshit either.

[@Jessica-zm9bs]

Josh Treviño that doesn’t make it right or change anything it’s still not self defence whether cops do it or not

[@Jessica-zm9bs]

Daniel Butcher exactly! Because cops do it too don’t make it right.

[@tasiat6893]

Josh Treviño exactly! hayes should’ve gotten jail time but not 25 years. maybe like 5-10. police get 0 with very little justification 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@shaw9462]

Sumter SC. Do your research

[@yellowman617]

The cop that killed a man in his own apartment in Texas got less smh

[@roxannemoser]

I know right?

[@hoffieldj]

real shit man was just in his own house haveing ice cream get shot up. still think she should of got life.

[@BrotherBoresIsBest]

White. Female. Cop. White. Cop.

[@typhoon3872]

Different states, different rules. Still f'ed up tho.

[@yellowman617]

@Brando the man, doe sure

[@joshuabrown2543]

Sad situation. Both lives and those connected to them are changed forever. Rage is always a problem and class treatment.

[@breana2534]

Bear was freed today after 225k bail was set 🙌🏾

[@qbcomicaddict2590]

Hope he enjoyed his time in jail 🙌

[@imbsmit]

This real ?

[@breana2534]

@@imbsmit yes

[@vetaiapettitt9749]

Simply jump in your car and be a better man. 🤷🏽‍♂️. Guy comes into my co-workers 21st birthday party Looking for me. Took me outside to show me he accidentally took my right Mirror out. Shook his hands it's ok man. I'll sort it out. easy fix. He was shocked and said you not angry or wanting my details? I said no man it's nothing. Hope you have a good weekend. I was angry but I didn't let it ruined my Friday night. He said alright man. said sorry for that and we went our own ways. He went home to his family I went back in to my co-workers house to enjoy the party

[@HeruSupreme]

but he wasn't drunk right, Smith hit his car first then tried to flee he committed two crimes prior to even hitting the car.

[@THEREAL_GZUS]

Vetaia Pettitt respect for that dude . Not a lot of ppl will think first instead of acting of emotion like woman

[@at2818]

Apples to Oranges, but good for you?

[@williepeppers4969]

Exactly

[@javialan2503]

So he pointed out he made a mistake instead of going back to his car to get his loaded gun to shoot you with? Wow man, that's an amazing story of how you dealt with that non-life-threatening situation.

[@bloneyo1]

There have been a few times I wanted to cause great bodily harm to someone, but I never acted upon it. I knew if I did, I would be in Prison. Your life is about choices. I watched this entire video and concluded that there were times different choices could have been made. We live in a Country built on Bloodshed, believe me I know, Im Native American. I truly pray for both families.

[@charlesanderson1422]

Brian Loney Amen.

[@ericherstedt3217]

Yeah okay Brian, what are you 1/100th Choctaw? Lol

[@fozzybear7255]

He was literally a Saint Gets drunk, hits other vehicles, flees the scene, fights with the person he hit, puts his wife in danger. Yep, a true Saint.

[@sashalove83]

I think he meant literally saint because he played for the new Orleans Saints, not a Saint in the sense of a good person. RESPECTFULLY 🙏🏾

[@combos7]

he barely even touched the vehicle that stop directly in the middle of the road for no reason

[@combos7]

and after this incident he was no longer a saint he is now a victim that was shot 8 times in the back

[@oneheart7409]

This was an impact fully so profound!! So moving forward toward our Progression, so many questions & answers! We can't bring back Will Smith! So going into the future and moving forward how will we become better? Not just as a race!! But the human race!! I'm waiting!!

[@brookwest]

If he was a cop it would have been justified. I thought he was going for a Gun tell me I'm lying. They're not waiting to see.

[@yungterv198]

Nice try Brook, but cardell is free. The Supreme Court threw the case out.

[@mauleshpatel7755]

Big losses for both sides... sad.

[@emillkim13]

Oh man this piece broke me. What a damn shame.

[@patricialagrier1785]

😭😭 my condolences to the family of this case

[@TripleDTx214]

Went from self defense with 1 shot. To murder with the next 7.

[@MrParis215]

Mark Meza 7 shots??.... That's all I keep saying to myself... 7... Anger and Emotions behind a trigger is a bad bad mix..

[@TripleDTx214]

ZeroChill 215 Yupp for sure man

[@Raj4040]

@@TripleDTx214 There are a few flaws in the law in Louisiana if everyone in this video is claiming that self defense shooting laws allow for the use of force to "kill" an attacker. This is a systemic issue in the possession of a firearm without proper training and situational awareness. Proper training in the use of and possession of firearm and for self defense should always emphasize the defense in removing the "threat". When a law is written to emphasize that self defense is allowable to "kill" in a particular state, it now renders the jury to look at the shooting as "shoot to kill" as opposed to "shoot to eliminate the threat". So if it was one shot or two and he neutralized the threat, he might have been acquitted on self defense. Without proper understanding of the use of the firearm in self defense and cause and effect...which we see all too often with concealed carry (mind you I am concealed carry self defense advocate)...people cross over past the point of no return and in the heat of the moment it was too late! It was said once that you train and educate on the use of the firearm 99% so when you cross over to the 1% you have made every assessment and effort necessary before doing so. Sad because as a die hard Saints fan it was a sad day. As a human it was a sad day for this man because I don't believe he was a killer...but everything was stacked up against him the second he engaged a New Orleans Saint and unloaded most of his pistol's "magazine" into the back of a man. Tough situation!!!! Wish it never happened for all involved!

[@leeroyv5345]

The first shot didn't bring will smith down, and he was still going for his gun. Hayes shot until he was no longer a threat like he did.

[@Paaka]

In Virginia that wouldve been attempted murder no self defense

[@griffgarris0n]

My man @ 39:50 is spot on tbh. If Will Smith was a random black man there's no way Cardell Hayes gets 25 years.

[@andrewwolf4963]

idk man , he probably gets 25 either way, but he gets out in 11 , rather than out in 19

[@rubinajohnson7648]

Right

[@crystalroussell1559]

Tom Green dame thing I said

[@XoeCox]

Right

[@NRansom]

He Shot A Man 7 Times in the Back. Hes getting that time now if he had a badge and white then you have a case

[@yjdaniel8237]

I understand Hayes mother being heartbroken but come on you’re son did something horrible and unnecessary. However, Hayes stayed at the scene, that’s rare. He might’ve been railroaded but he put himself in that position. He should’ve gotten the plate number and called 911

[@yoladock4505]

He stayed because he didnt want to make it worst

[@kiyahkali]

So sad 😞 for both families

[@mikesmithh]

The thing he can never get past is the fact he shot him 8 times in the back and Smith didn't have a gun on him at the time of the shooting. Even if he had one in the car, it wasn't on him when he fired those 8 shots into his back.

[@cashgililland7952]

He was in his car when he got shot and in his car was a loaded handgun

[@denitajohnson5887]

He wanted to kill him

[@hanleyk]

OP is still correct, "Smith didn’t have a gun on him."

[@elbowgang9715]

@Kerry Hanley not really, if your car has drugs in it the police are still gonna charge it as if it was on you, just like they would do with a gun. Yall just mad a Saints player got killed because of his bad actions that night

[@dustinbarron9402]

@@elbowgang9715 "One important factor to consider is the actual imminence of the threat. The courts have generally interpreted this to mean that the danger must be immediate and present rather than simply impending. In other words, if there is time for the victim to take evasive action, then the danger may not be considered imminent." The suspect could have easily fled on foot or in his vehicle, this is likely why a jury found him guilty. As point blank as the 8 gunshots in Will Smith's back.

[@143LEXI23]

Cant take away the fact that he shot him 8 times....not once or twice but 8 times

[@enigma1247]

your a idiot and obviously never have fired a firearm before. You can let off 7 shots in just a couple seconds. And especially if its in self defense and your in fear for your life your gunna make sure you shoot first and your gunna make sure you eliminate the threat by letting off as many shots as your magazine holds. When its life and death it's kill or be killed. Eliminate the threat before the threat eliminates you. I'm not at all referring to this situation in particular. I'm referring to be in a situation where you have a firearm and it's kill or be killed and how fast and easy it is to get off 7 shots. 7 shots in a modern handgun is nothing to shoot. Don't be so quick to post something so blatantly false and incorrect when you have no clue what your talking about bcuz there are people that do know and will make you look like a emotional irrational fool. You never trust just 1 or 2 shots. And your definitely not as experienced in firearms as you think you are if your calling the MAGAZINE a clip. Go up to anyone in the military and try to talk about guns and call the mag a clip...they will automatically correct you and change the subject bcuz you obviously have no clue what your talking about.

[@eightysbaby8798]

@@enigma1247 na u rite. In Iraq or something your dumping the whole clip. But when your point blank with that caliber you don't have too let off 8 shots and 7 in the back on top of that. You shoot the chest he turns and falls in the car. Maybe you let off one more. But then you keep your aim on him and say don't move. If he even turns alittle u continue. This isn't a inexperienced gun owner. He knew exactly what too do in that situation. He was definitely mad will Smith punked him and shot too kill. Imo that is.

[@inktown2theyak]

Okay but that's call heat of the moment. Plus Will Smith isn't a little dude and plus his alcohol levels was beyond High. I could imagine how Mr. Hayes felt. He probably was scared as well. Really thinking it was a gun in that vehicle and two how violent Smith reaction was when he got out the vehicle as well.

[@inktown2theyak]

@@Mistrinho7 Exactly💯

[@pkdavis]

Shot once or twice and die, shot 8 times and live. What difference does that make?

[@angrytacos5497]

Cardell Hayes case was just overturned, remembered hearing of this story 2 years ago from this.

[@wuncieadams2979]

That is sad, very sad.

[@chanelisdivine462]

Mr. Hayes is home with his family now.

[@BummyDAn]

That's crazy

[@Yobullyy]

He my cousin

[@cristiancorona1635]

@@Yobullyy cap

[@cristiancorona1635]

@@shmurdashewrote1678 I said cap to the guy who said it was his cousin Lmaoo

[@shmurdashewrote1678]

He was released on bond in March, awaiting a new trial. He was acting in self defense. Will Smith was driving drunk, rammed the back of that mans car. Attempted a hit and run. Hayes followed him, Smith probably slammed on the brakes causing Hayes to rear end Smiths vehicle. Then Smith gets out drunk & angry. Attacks Hayes. Hayes shouldn’t of been in prison. Let’s put aside the fact that Smith was a beloved NFL Super star.. Without that resume & status everyone would see Smith as the aggressor. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’m glad Hayes is home with his son where he belongs & I pray he stays there!

[@biggabesons]

There is stories of homeowners shooting burglers in the back as they ran away, after robbing them and the homeowner getting sentenced. Any person who carries a gun has to be prepared to defend their actions in court. And shooting someone whos back is turned is "No longer a threat to your life". Common sense and a cool head would result in a completely different story. I feel sad for the family, But they are not Victims.

[@djkoz1]

@Gabe Gonzalez It's a law my dude. Even if a burglar is in your home, if he starts to run away you can't shoot him in the back, it's called a fleeing felon. You will get charged. People have to know the laws of the state they live in. The problem is people assume what the laws are.

[@ewilliamsz2099]

The victim told him he was going to get a gun and shoot him. The victim then turned around and reahed into his vehicle for a weapon. Why would i then wait for the guy to turn around with hin gun and shoot me.

[@ewilliamsz2099]

@@djkoz1 You are mixing apples with oranges. A buglar running away and a angry man making a threat and acted on that threat by reaching for a weapon. Is two different things.

[@dmmeurturtlepics3881]

Look up the law in TX "you mess with a man's property, that man as the right to shoot you!" I'd shot that man to if you mess with my property, don't wanna get shot will than follow the law.

[@djkoz1]

@@ewilliamsz2099 I was commenting on Gabe Gonzalez comment on homeowners shooting burglars and getting sentenced bruh! That's not apples and oranges. SMH

[@ojanneh]

I find it real hard to grasp shooting him 7 times in the back. That can't be self defence.

[@quest4adventure495]

Exactly. If those bullets had gone in the front this story would be completely different.

[@patricklayman2780]

Damn I never seen a father and son look almost like twins

[@-_-ale-_]

What would you do? There is a guy and his friend really drunk and it is the middle of the night, the friend wants to fight and the other guy is heading to his car and you don’t know what he has in his car.

[@deandradavis4918]

This was senseless ! 💥 They should have exchanged information & went on about their business🤕🤔 Cordell didn't stand a chance against a super bowl hero🤔2 lives lost ... unnecessary🤔

[@producerfav1974]

I was born and raised in New Orleans "WHO DAT." Both Will Smith and Cordell seem like great people..Sad that this had to happen.

[@sharelllewis6716]

What I think this is sad all the way around the board is two families that lost two people there to them and it's sad as hell

[@twalk2024]

Wow this was well put together and unfortunate for all parties. Had Mr Hayes been an athlete killing another “saint” makes me ponder if he would be at home with his family today? The gunpowder in his hands is weird to me…🤔

[@starskyhudge4576]

This is so sad for both families, there is no winners in this tragedy. My heart goes out to everyone is hurting.

[@JacindaNeal]

Sad situation, I can understand both sides of this situation. Something tells me Will was no angel in this situation

[@fendertremolo9793]

Once you shoot somebody in the back, 8 times. You're the one to blame. That shows me, he wasn't scared, he was angry and jealous.

[@jasonallen3678]

Nope

[@jasonallen3678]

@@fendertremolo9793 Jealous of what, Smith hitting his car and driving off.Please

[@XoeCox]

I agree.

[@ShawnThomas78]

@@fendertremolo9793 will provocated the incident... let’s see, he is driving heavily drunk so he already broke the law .. now you hit someone that’s another broke law ... now you get out and then go back and get your firearm... hmmmm see a pattern.. look past the fact he was an NFL player ... the shots in the back is what did Cardelle in ...

[@mikebanks5480]

2 more seconds wait till they arm themselves and turn towards you, once you show your gun. Bet things be different!

[@chiefsnickyp3016]

RIP to an NFL legend

[@NlneLives210]

Fact is he shot the dude 8 times in the back.

[@bigingtv7315]

NlneLives210 don’t mean anything

[@nigelstanford4]

What is your point??

[@bigingtv7315]

Tyrone Biggums who?

[@nigelstanford4]

Big Ing original post

[@ruthavery8245]

@@bigingtv7315 only a coward shoots a person in the back.

[@davidjoyce6289]

The mother blames football for her son being in prison. You sure it doesn't have anything to do with your son shooting someone 8 times.

[@dionnetownsend1396]

That part

[@youngboi2717]

Regardless of that fact she made good points and I understood where she was coming from. They hung her son to honor their “hero” smhhh

[@michaelbundy6706]

David Joyce yeah she sounds crazy

[@TERI-B]

David Joyce Exactly!! He murdered this man. He should be put away for life

[@lailonnietukes4456]

@John Smith He probably would've ended up murdered himself in the streets of New Orleans..He probably was one of those people who loved to prove he's tuff or whatever...

[@tmcurly]

In the future take a screenshot of the number plate and keep it moving. Deal with it in the morning!! 😩😩

[@quingplutoestarr6123]

Self defense is only awarded to a small group of people you heard the guy

[@kingdz6712]

They both played a major part in this smh

[@jaylienparks8909]

He got 25 and the other man got life without the possibility of parole

[@ryanhickey6812]

Its a sad story it truly is. Two good men in a situation that shouldn't of happened. But unfortunately regardless of who you are and what you've done in the past... in one moment you can make a decision to ruin your life. Cardell was probably a great kid growing up... but he made the decision shooting a man 7 times in the back.

[@420bengalfan]

lmao two good men dont do end up in that situation

[@Oscar-mr2ol]

Exacy

[@Oscar-mr2ol]

domestic Abuser

[@stanknillian919]

He shot him 8 times without missing at close range.

[@ApocalypseNowWithEli]

Tough to show empathy to someone who shot another 7 times in the back. Once or twice in self defense makes sense but why unload the clip?

[@EvilClowns69]

The Pennsylvania Poker Playing Prepper when your fearing for your life that shit happens all the time! Hell even cops forget how much they fire when they are shooting at criminals that are firing back at them

[@ApocalypseNowWithEli]

EvilClowns69 no argument here. Just saying from a jurors perspective it’s probably difficult to find innocent. After watching the entire thing I found the fact that it was a split jury insane and Smiths BAC being off the charts should have weighed heavily on the decision. The man would have walked in 48 other states with a hung jury like that. Hope he gets off or a lesser sentence upon appeal.

[@EvilClowns69]

The Pennsylvania Poker Playing Prepper that’s why I would of gotten a better lawyer if that was me. No offense but when you play the crooked cop defense your gonna lose black lawyer focused to much at playing the race card it even came out in the interview

[@TheDebo1203]

If you fear for your life then you shoot to kill.. unload the clip.. if not how was you really In fear for your life by shooting once or twice?🤔

[@leomatsuoka7625]

How bout you refute the arguement because if you put it that way it sounds bad but listen to what happend

[@harvey2609]

Never take a gun to a fist fight.

[@duMaurier15]

I like guns.. im too lazy to work out.

[@Joker-yu5kp]

unfortunately too many pussy out there,people act though but can’t back it off with fist

[@duMaurier15]

@@Joker-yu5kp how about the people who prey on the ppl who can't defend or not ready to defend themselves? Like armed robbery, home invasion, etc. Not everyone is born built like a mutant. Is why law abiding citizens even rehabilitated criminals should have the rights to defend themselves and their property.

[@bcgsmooth1828]

duMaurier in other words you can’t fight so you pulling the strap out gotcha... u win some u lose some but u live to see another day but shooting someone is a whole different ball game that 9/10 ends with jail time so choose

[@teresaellison9894]

Will they saying she lose her son one thing she still can see him an they family could still see him what about will family they never see him again 8 times in the back I feel he were he needs to be so when he go home he will not shoot somebody else son in the back he must have a anger problem

[@willielittle9301]

Both men had one thing in common...Alpha male personalities with pride, ego, and 0 to 5,000 degree temper!!!

[@chrisgibson3073]

Good people make mistakes all the time and have to face the consequences.