The Death of Streaming and Resurrection of Physical Media

[@AVAPopCulture]

YEP! I said it...with the announcement of the latest "streaming bundle", I believe Streaming is headed for it's death rattle...Physical media returns!!

[@over-educated-sp]

Why buy something you cannot tangibly “own?”

[@AVAPopCulture]

💯! and you don't really own the digital stuff anyway...but if I hand over my money and get a dvd, blu ray etc back, I own it and can use it however I want!

[@over-educated-sp]

@@AVAPopCulture FOR REAL!

[@over-educated-sp]

I’ve got like over 400 CD’s 1000 albums on vinyl, also a bunch of cassettes. Sad days when Best Buy let go of all their music sections!

[@GhettoFabulousLorch]

Every physical media champion should invest in a server host like Plex or Jellyfin, an optical drive for ripping their physical media, and in lots of data storage. Become your own streaming service. Become your friends and family streaming service. And keep the physical media as backups.

[@GhettoFabulousLorch]

@Peppersquads I'll start by asking what you know already and what you already have: 1. Do you know how to rip optical media? 2. If so, do you have the means to do so now? 3. Do you have a lot of data storage? 4. Do you know about Direct Attached Storage or Network Attached Storage devices? 5. Do you know how to look up your computer's IP address? 6. Have you checked out Plex, Jellyfin, Kodi, or Emby? Each of these can be looked up right here on KZbin, and I can look up videos for each of you request it. Once you take the plunge you will get the best of both worlds. It's been worth it for me and mine.

[@mrhobs]

@Peppersquads I’m in exactly the same boat, except I’m a baby collector with only around 170 discs that I’d care to rip. I do have a NAS with tons of storage, a Blu-ray drive (that may or may not work), and a couple of Macs, so I’m over halfway there already heh… except… I can barely figure that NAS out… I really just need a buddy to take interest in my plight, come over, and get me set up… too bad I have no such buddy. I do have the NAS working, and talking to my Mac, but I know so little about it. Scared to use it too much when I don’t have back up… that’s what they don’t tell you. You basically need a whole second NAS to be a backup otherwise you’re not secure. So much money, so little use I’m getting out of it. Got it for filmmaking, but perhaps it could be for Plex too?? No matter how much I read or watch videos, there’s always some little thing I can’t find an answer to. Bleh, maybe I’ll try again to tackle this stuff. Way out of my depth. The network part is my downfall. I can’t really visualize a network, so it’s hard to set it up or understand what it’s good for. The temptation of Plex is great though, heh. Although, that said, I don’t know if I want to go back to last streaming… I just set up a shelf, and I kinda like going into the other room and looking at the Blu-rays. Suppose I can have both. Sorry if you read this whole thing, and thank you

[@021om6]

Will the quality be the same as the disc? The whole point of owning the disc is for the quality so I don't want no drop in quality

[@GhettoFabulousLorch]

@021om6 Yes. At the end of the day optical media does data. Nothing more, nothing less. Ripping just copies the files.

[@021om6]

​@GhettoFabulousLorch wow I never knew this! so can I rip all my 4k discs and then sell them off as now I have it saved in storage forever?

[@Ercolano78]

I'm also an "old school" person. I never went to streaming. I still buy DVDs, Blu-rays and even VHS tapes. At the recycling center close to me, sometimes there are VHS tapes and DVDs for free. Flea markets are also good places to find movies, and of course movie stores. When I see VHS tapes, I'll get a warm feeling. Maybe I'm just getting old (46 in November) :D Like you said that they'll remove and censor movies. I have around 700 DVDs and Blu-rays, and around 300 VHS tapes (originals). I don't even know how many of those have been censored or removed on streaming services. Also a great thing is, that you can get those movies signed by actors and etc. if you'll get to meet them. You got a new subscriber. Have a great summer. Greetings from Finland.

[@AVAPopCulture]

@Ercolano78 thank you so much for subscribing!!! I dont know about enjoy when someone calls me old school for all the reasons you mentioned and so many more! Vhs movies take me back and give me the "feels" whenever I see them !!

[@redrock425]

I think the future will be a mix of options. Physical will grow again but will exist alongside streaming. I'd say the majority have no real awareness of the quality differences in media and often have very average equipment to play content. Physical is heading towards being the premium quality, large niche for the fans, connoisseurs and collectors. The masses have always seen media as disposable.

[@krashkoursemetalshow]

I never left the physical format space , so I’m glad people are finding and respecting it again 🤘

[@AVAPopCulture]

same here!

[@LilannB]

I have DVDs from 2000 that I watched this year that play just fine. Those movies have been paid for, for over 20 years. It also dawned on me that with Blu Ray combo packs you got three copies of the movie. The Blu ray, the DVD and the Digital all for a one time cost.

[@AVAPopCulture]

exactly!! you own them, you arent renting the right to watch them every month for the rest of your life and that is such a sweet thing that the folks who buy into the "you'll own nothing and be happy" idea will never understand until it is too late!!!

[@jrlangdon89]

I have over 7300 movies DVDs and blurays and 4K blurays nothing better then physical

[@AVAPopCulture]

This...is the way.... LOL

[@bigdadd09able]

Facts

[@ThornTheaterReviews]

👏👏👏

[@slate49]

These physical media prices are unreal! Over the last year or two, they have doubled. It’s crazy

[@AVAPopCulture]

that shows demand is rising!!!

[@Chaso-1124]

I hardly ever buy brand new. They're crazy if they think I'm gonna spend that much. Got a lot of used for reasonable prices

[@mrhobs]

I mean I guess. I was just thinking it’s never been a better time to buy Blu-ray. Just bought Chain Reaction and Chappie for 2.10 and 1.40 respectively, plus 4 dollars to ship them together. Compare that to 2006 when the format was brand new, and we’re doing OK. I do spend a lot sometimes though. About 28+ for the new Flight of the Navigator release. Definitely more for a couple others. 40+ for Little Witch Academia short film combo. Bit of a splurge.

[@MauriceHotblack]

You think it's expensive now, you should have seen the price of a new release VHS back in the day.

[@AVAPopCulture]

@MauriceHotblack I was just talking to someone about that! I remember being a kid in the early 80s and the mom and pop rental store would tell you on a sign in the store that lost or damaged tapes would be a $99 charge!!! And this was in like 83, so that was a lot of money lol

[@MC-bh8ph]

Man I hope you're right it would be so nice to see streaming fail and physical media return. Physical media is so much more consumer friendly than the corporate anti consumer BS that is streaming

[@dishsoap1]

Physical media is definitely being talked about more lately. Would be nice to see a resurgence. HD DVD collecting seems like it has been growing. I got into it myself a few months ago.

[@AVAPopCulture]

this is the way lol!

[@josephherman5790]

I have well over 5,000 DVD's,Blu ray's and 4K media.I prefer physical media over the shit on streaming.I also have a DVD recorder and looking for a 4K Blu ray Dolby Atmos Recorder.

[@AVAPopCulture]

I love looking at my physical media, making a selection and popping it in and watching it instead of endlessly doom scrolling options on streaming that I mostly dont care to see in crappy streaming quality and sound lol

[@user-KUSTOM3MDB]

. . The psychological effect of doing a slow release pattern as you've described, develops a desire for the product in the consumer. The methods they're using in selling the physical media today, as you pointed out is them shooting themselves in the foot while limiting the accessibility to said physical media. A brain dead, corporate ideology like a commune, it will fall apart. Thank you for presenting these issues, they need to be heard. . 👊😎

[@sir.reelcinema]

I strongly believe this is the most information about what we’re going through right now than any other video on the topic either I or someone else’s created. I hit your subscribe button gave you a thumbs up and I’m leaving a comment. Just to show my love and support for you. Please keep doing this. You’re really good at it.

[@AVAPopCulture]

wow! I really appreciate that! I really do! As someone who loves making movies (and had to deal with studios while selling them) and is an even bigger fan of movies, I am very passionate about this!!! thanks so much!

[@ericspalacio]

Here at this house, there is always in between DVDs standard Blu-ray’s and 4K Blu-ray, even laser discs that is owned by me, everything that I have as a favorite/love to watch, I do own a physical, copy, Seinfeld, diehard, a couple versions of the Terminator movies, so so forth, even have some HD DVDs that I have never repeat purchased on Blu-ray, if I have it on HD DVD I most likely will wait for the 4K/2 arrive. One more thing I have noticed about certain movies released in 4K, Sometimes they do have a lower sub standard DTS 5.one track, and I have noticed that sometimes my laser discs five point one track will sound better sometimes it’s good to own two different copies on two different formats for review purposes to see if the studio that mastered it has taken a step forward or step back in video or audio quality, unfortunately, you’ll find that most of them tempest step back in audio quality for some odd reason.

[@willalexander5174]

Informative as always! Really been enjoying your perspective . 🖖

[@AVAPopCulture]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that... i'm glad you're enjoying the videos and getting a little something out of them!

[@stickywicked447]

I feel like streaming served it's purpose in helping a lot of us to "cut the cable". But yeah, I built a pretty big library of music on iTunes before I realized, if this service goes away, I don't technically own any of this music. It may exist on my laptop somewhere but w/o iTunes software, it can't be accessed. Love my physical media though, and I'm so happy to see it growing. We'll own EVERYTHING and like it!

[@Beetleejuicee]

You nailed it all on the head. I don’t even go to the theaters anymore for multiple reasons. So if studios want my money it will ONLY be through buying physical media. These studios are clowns and Warner Brothers is the worst one of them all

[@AVAPopCulture]

they are ready to drive themselves off a cliff rather than admit the "old ways" may have been better lol

[@Beetleejuicee]

@@AVAPopCulture exactly lol

[@gregmcdonald8962]

My thoughts are: Liked and Subscribed! I couldn't find one thing to argue with.

[@AVAPopCulture]

ha! hell yeah! thank you so much!

[@rustydelorean6405]

DVD /Bluray players are where the problem is going to be. It won’t be profitable to make them (supply/demand) in the quantities they used to. Players will skyrocket in price for the niche market and from what i see the quality of the player will be terrible.

[@memnarch129]

Maybe. Alternative is many may go back to the way things where over 50 years ago. Learning how to actually repair what you own. Meaning people learning how to solder, lubricate rails and gear and generally replace/repair any part of their own electronics. As opposed to modern day where the answer 9 times out of 10 is "With how much I have to charge you for parts and labor you may as well buy a new one".

[@rustydelorean6405]

@@memnarch129 i agree. I play guitar and casually work on broken amplifiers if it is nothing major. Old amps, tube and solid state, had fairly easy components to solder and replace. New stuff ( last 15 years) not so much. Consumer grade electronics are designed to fail and are born into the dumpster. Printed circuitboards are very difficult to work on. Point to point wiring is better but nearly non existent on everyday household “brains” that control our devices.

[@markchristopher8515]

You cannot beat physical Media. Totally agree with you. I look after all of my physical Media. Kind regards from the UK

[@AVAPopCulture]

Thank you so much and greetings frim across the pond! Physical media forever!

[@markchristopher8515]

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[@AVAPopCulture]

@markchristopher8515 thank you! I really do appreciate each and every person that is interested enough to hang around and subscribe!

[@jacotromp59581]

Currently we are in a fight with AI vs Traditional Art. I see a massive resurgence in traditional art making one of the biggest comebacks in history. If I draw something with pen on paper, that's literally the only copy in existence. Sure, you can copy it, but no coppier is good enough to capture the "soul" of the original. Only artists will understand the meaning behind what I just said. It's also real. AI art is just a bunch of ones and zeros that can be replicated millions of times and it will all look and feel the same. Same with physical media. I am so happy I still have my DVD,'s and Blu-rays. My absolute favorite comfort show is How I Met Your Mother. It's so satisfying to pop in my DVD and watch it as many times as I want to, and I also nwver have to buy or rent it again. A smart person would open another Blockbuster again

[@AVAPopCulture]

100% agree! Besides making films, I also paint..I mostly do pop art where I use original old magazines and newspapers and make a collage of them on a canvas and then doing the paintings on top of that and I don't like the idea of using copied magazine & newspaper pages for the background, much less someone using it as an AI sample 🤢🤮... you're right, there is no soul there....I think that is why people are rediscovering Vinyl- because it has more soul....and I think more will rediscover physical media for movies because of the higher quality, extra features (value added), and the personal experience you can have with them! Funny you mention a Blockbuster...my stretch business goal with my channels and as I consider making at least 1 more movie, is to open a small 2 screen theater where we show films from the early 79s, 80s, 90s etc and do cosplay nights etc and have a video rental "bar" out front that serves nostalgia food and drinks and actually rents movies! Maybe carry 5,000 titles or so!!!

[@introvertboricua787]

Maybe it's because I'm a Gen-X, I still sometimes buy a CD on ebay, I have a 5 CD carousel player, I don't even like mp3's like that because the sound is never as good as a CD, and any movie I really like I get it on blu-ray, streaming is fine but it can be cut off at any time, physical media you actually own it.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Gen X here to and I will use streaming but I love physical media!!

[@davidbenning10]

@@AVAPopCultureI’m a millennial and I’ve always loved using physical media since I was a child. I grew up watching movies on VHS and playing music on CDs and cassettes. Also, playing video games from a cartridge or disc is awesome 😎.

[@brianmelendy1194]

Streaming is inferior to physical media. Better picture and sound quality, extras, easy to find, less likely to be edited/censored, no ads, and no need for internet.

[@AVAPopCulture]

yep, yep and yep!!

[@alexk7467]

You also paid for it once and mostly have content that you actually watch

[@penguinjay]

all streaming sucks ass. When you pause on hulu they pop up crap in the frame and darken the outside edges so you can't even look for details, you can't grab a clip of the screen, you can't bump frames forward. You get none of that, but if you download a rip/own the physical copy, you can do ALL of that. Worse, particularly hulu, they censor episodes of fan favorite shows, censored episodes in community, in south park, in Sunny in Philadelphia. It's pathetic, and it makes more sense to download a full rip of those shows than it does to pay money for these places to play 1984. People associated w these censored shows should understand, THEY ARE ALREADY NOT BEING PAID APPROPRIATELY-THEY ARE NOT GETTING PLAYS THEY DESERVE. The streaming platforms they are on push their customers towards piracy.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Exactly!!!

[@goopah]

I wish I could be as optimistic. My fear is that these days, for most people, it's convenience uber alles. Hell, people are watching films on their damn phones, where the screen is tiny and the sound quality barely exists. And as long as these people are putting convenience before anything else, the streamers will win. Sure, the streamers are all increasing their rates through the roof (and then add more money for less ads!), but people are actually paying them. I can't believe it either. And don't get me started on the incoming trend of vehicle options on a subscription. People will buy those cars after they get used to the idea. I mean dude, I really hope you're right, but these days I'm having very little faith in the fortitude of the average consumer. They will cave in every time to get the latest hot new thing.

[@AVAPopCulture]

I hear you! I think there is a segment of the country - about 24-39 that all of that stuff you mentioned will work on...but under that and above that there is starting to be some push back...everyone says we go in cycles, well, after studying (and teaching) history I'd say we are more like a pendulum that swings back and forth...there will be a swing back in reaction to all of that stuff you mentioned and society in general much the way there was in the 80s after about 12-15 years of being so far the other way ... streaming services are losing millions every day and I'm here for when they hit bottom!!!

[@goopah]

@@AVAPopCulture Time will tell, and I hope you're right!

[@Arcella1981]

its like these streaming services have forgotten their "identity" and what made people even start using them in the first place, and I REFUSE to believe that Netflix says they are not able to make enough money to operate with out raising prices, specially now that they don't offer DVD's anymore, like they started just by mailing people physical DVD's, I would imagine that would be a lot more expensive than streaming ( in fairness I really don't know what I am talking about when it comes to computers, this is just my thoughts I could be completely wrong )

[@AVAPopCulture]

They certainly forgot who they are...and I know firsthand from negotiating licensing my films (we never agreed on a deal with Netflix) that they do not pay that much to license films....they also used to be big in the independent film world when they were begging for content and now they act too good for it which is odd because now indie filmmakers can actually afford to use the same high quality equipment that studios use...if they are losing money as they claim, then they should all be fired LOL...if you have are bringing in a Billion+ dollars a month and losing money, you shouldnt be allowed to run a business! 🤣

[@michaelgrimes381]

its not that they cant make enough to operate without raising costs, just that they have to pay more now for thier "original content" to be made plus the liscensing fees went up on getting older content from the IP holders, and they want to keep the same amount of profit. lets just say as an example if thier costs were $25 + they wanted to make $25 in profit they needed to pull in $50 before, now thier costs have gone from $25 to $75 and they still want that $25 in profit so they raise everything to get $100 coming in to keep paying thier costs and keep the same profit margin. they could take far less profit if they chose to, but what company is gonna do that?🤣. also, while it is cheaper for them to stream stuff than to rent out dvds, they still have to pay a suprisingly high amount to maintain thier servers to hold all of thier content on to stream from.

[@dereckabackus5411]

Hopefully video and record stores will make a comeback.

[@AVAPopCulture]

That is the dream!!!!

[@MauriceHotblack]

I too find the editing and censoring of films and tv totally unacceptable. It's like we're in a neo-puritan age. The Victorians also did the same thing, putting fig leaves on statues, cutting out the rude bits of Shakespeare etc. No one should screw about with what an artist intended.

[@AVAPopCulture]

100% agree! I am a firm believer that art is a reflection of its time and should never be censored or messed with!

[@ericgriffin932]

Great take on physical media ❤

[@AVAPopCulture]

thank you so much! I love physical media, I kinda get passionate about it lol

[@Ryu0rKen]

People are generally lazy and rather waste their money on streaming which takes no energy to start than put a DVD/Blu Ray in a player.

[@JeffDavis-mybreak]

I wish stores were beefing up physical media rather than doing away with it.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Wal Mart is beefing it up, so is Barnes and Noble and GameStop just started carrying physical media again, along with a supermarket chain...we'll take every win!

[@MzCJ]

I agree with you totally and I want to go back to physical media but what happens when we eventually move from dvd/Blu-ray to the next form of physical media like what happened with vhs to dvd and dvd becomes defunct like vhs? I know we can technically still buy vhs second hand but new movies with Blu-ray quality obviously aren’t made on dvd/vhs anymore so I don’t want to keep having to rebuy a movie every few years when they update the quality, that’s kind of similar to renting if you see what I mean? I do collect vinyl but that’s because of the cover art and that lovely crackle like you said. Tech is always moving on so I don’t wanna have to keep buying the same movies over and over. The censorship is a real issue on streaming services though like you said.

[@MzCJ]

Then there’s also all this ‘Netflix exclusive’ stuff (and other streaming services) that people can’t get in a physical form which annoys me.

[@AVAPopCulture]

I think anything past 4k Discs would be decades away if at all...there is such diminishing returns once you go past 4k as far as what your eye can tell the difference of... for streaming shows you can always start and stop them just long enough to watch the show lol

[@MzCJ]

@@AVAPopCulture yeah I guess, although technology just seems to be progressing faster and faster the more time passes-we could be watching movies via hologram within the next few years at this rate! 🤣

[@AVAPopCulture]

@@MzCJ imagine a virtual reality 3d hologram of like Nightmare on Elm street playing in front of you hahaha you'd have to make sure to wear your brown pants LMAO

[@josephherman5790]

Sounds like the movie Equilibrium.

[@jokkebach]

Where i live, we would have to wait 9-12 months to rent. And when rental time was over we could buy it. That way they could charge you 3 times for a movie you liked.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Yep! That was what I was talking about! That model got them multiple sales hits and it got people to the movies

[@C4nn15]

Oh another thing, a lot of filmmakers are complaining that streaming is also one of the reasons smaller movies don't happen anymore. Plus cinemas are struggling cause they are pushing it to streaming, so why should studios invest in a smaller movie, that might not make any money on streaming. But it would've in the past on DVD, how many movies and TV shows are now cult classics thanks to VHS/DVD?

[@AVAPopCulture]

this is one I can speak to experience from! My lower budget indie films were killed when the final Movie rental stores closed and then when Redbox declined in popularity due to more and more streaming services...Family Video rental chain (which we didnt even have here in Georgia) was a guaranteed buy of between 4000 and 8000 titles on dvd for their stores...Redbox was on average a guaranteed of 40,000 physical units...so if you made a movie for $250k and you sold those 2, you were already in profit...meanwhile Streaming on average, for indie movies, paid maybe $2-10k to license the movie for several years! So it paid almost nothing! Now imagine a 25mil Hollywood "low budget" film...without those physical outlets, and physical sales, they lose so much revenue it is mind-blowing to me that they are staying committed to this 2 week release at theater, straight to VOD, and limited physical model....they are literally killing themselves rather than admit the old method was better!

[@C4nn15]

Yeah, the problem is we are dealing with an archaic industry that takes ages to adapt. So when it does shift it takes ages and it seems to take ages to switch back. What I find funny is that people cord cut, saying streaming is the way to go. But now every studio wants their own streaming service basically creating cable via internet :)

[@mavenglobal]

The way it's going in 18 months I can see Blu Ray & 4K being 30% more to buy than say 5yrs ago due to people having 4K & OLED TV's especially for those who want to build a Library of there 50 Films they could watch over & over again and the big studios will go for that more $$ once again. If the studios were smart they'd go do new voiceovers now with those actors for Films coming up to 40 & 50yrs since being released in the next 3-4years to get people to buy that copy again.

[@AVAPopCulture]

I think Sony is planning big things for physical media releases that will increase sales in the market...you dont pay to license all of Disney's catalog without planning to release tons of movies!

[@Luke-cb5ge]

I never stopped collecting games dvd s blu rays I’m loving all the new hd remaster

[@AVAPopCulture]

I think there are more people that have kept buying physical media than people realize

[@Luke-cb5ge]

@@AVAPopCulture everyone I no does we have 1 shop called hmv that has just exploded with new releases I really like arrow video and 88 films lables

[@mpitogo1978]

I’m into buying physical media for the quality. New releases in 4k are enticing. Even though I’ve seen the Abyss multiple times on TV (classIc I think cable) I bought the 4K and wow it’s like watching as a whole new experience. I’ve bought hundreds of bd in the last year to own better than streaming quality. Newest release I’m looking forward to is Twister. I have the classic DVD which at the time was excellent but the 4k remaster with immersive audio wIll hopefully blow anything from the past away figuratively and literally. While I also like streaming for convenience, I agree it’s gonna implode, too many choices you gotta pay for.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Agreed on all points- including looking forward to twister lol

[@ozzy.....7383]

It costs them Pennie’s to make a dvd and lots of people profit stream only 1 person gets paid and the studios lose $

[@AVAPopCulture]

exactly! but they are too stubborn to admit when theyve screwed up

[@spackar2720]

I think that cable tv is dying but I don't think that streaming is dying. I think that streaming is evolving. I used to have hundreds of books, CDs and Blu-Rays/DVDs. In recent years I got rid of the bulk of my physical media in favor of streaming. I live in a small studio apartment and did not have the room for my former collection. I am glad and relieved.

[@AVAPopCulture]

I hear you...space is a factor...but when these major streaming companies are having to combine, raise prices, add commercials, and eliminate content because they cant afford to pay the rights, Id say they are doing everything they can to keep from shutting down...the word is that this new merger with Netflix, Peacock, and AppleTV will be available ONLY if you have Comcast/Xfinity cable...if that happens, it would literally force people to have Xfinity to get those streaming services...I hate that you had to get rid of your physical media...if streaming dies or takes away your favorites, you wont be able to see them and that SUCKS! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!!!

[@tiomkinnyborg2289]

It is as if you heard what was being said but failed to take it in. If you are happy with works being deleted and altered then carry on streaming. Go to watch a classic film and you will find scenes missing and words altered. You stream to save space. Guess what here is an idea a 5TB 3x5" portable hard drive is cheap and can hold thousands of shows and movies. Hook it up your computer, load up a media server and enjoy all your music and shows anywhere you want. Rip your music and films, scan your books and keep them forever. No wonder the corps do what they do. Sheep will allow and gladly pay for it.

[@AVAPopCulture]

@@tiomkinnyborg2289 exactly! you're right! that was definitely my point!! if you are cool with censorship, lessor quality, no additional features, paying a monthly "ransom" forever, and living with the knowledge that your favorites could disappear at any time, then streaming is for you LOL...it definitely is not for me!!!

[@tiomkinnyborg2289]

@@AVAPopCulture Thanks for doing what you do. I started my media server when they got rid off the Simpson's episode with Michael Jackson. That was the start of the slippery slope. Piracy will return as it will the only place with complete untouched videos and music. So they will get even less money.

[@AVAPopCulture]

@@tiomkinnyborg2289 amen!!! that slope keeps getting even more slippery too!!! when they finally come full circle and streaming is all but gone, you'll see them do things like release the "80s version" or "70's version" of a movie or show and then the "Modern Version" so they can profit off of their censorship LOL....and thanks so much for watching!

[@stephens4175]

physical media keeps getting dogged as the past by the unknowers that follow trends, but it never left and is the future, I am and have always been a physical guy all the way!!!!

[@AVAPopCulture]

I 100% agree!!

[@Radiohead_311]

I noticed dialog being changed in a couple movies on Tubi. I thought I was going crazy, lol. But nope. It's so stupid and wholly unnecessary.

[@AVAPopCulture]

100% unnecessary but they are doing it built on what they think people's sensibilities are right now in the moment despite the fact that we all lived just fine with the original content! smh

[@Radiohead_311]

@AVAPopCulture I've been buying physical media (music and movies) since 2000 and will always continue to do so. I love my "mini-video store".

[@DanielMussen-ob7uo]

PC|Games Console| Arcade Portable PC|Portable Games Console|Portable Arcade Past Present Future

[@ayzworld]

Netflix killed streaming. 😂

[@jrlangdon89]

Hell ya

[@iloveblue7920]

Tell me something i did not know, and it takes all this time

[@ozzy.....7383]

They change discs too. VHS is only way to get original

[@Mike-t5r9q]

You wish..... Streaming is going nowhere you're dreaming buddy, lol you just can't beat convenience. No one is hoarding dvds again not unless your a collector then thats different but your average consumer is still streaming

[@AVAPopCulture]

did you skip over the facts to the contrary? Im sure it will always be around in some form but they are losing millions every day, having to cut content and merge with other streaming services to try to survive

[@penguinjay]

there IS a big "they," it's just informally grouped with common goals. If you are with THEM then you are rewarded, if you go against THEM, you will be punished. Simple as that. "THEY are everywhere, and they are nowhere."

[@CoreyDoughey]

Streaming’s not going anywhere. It’s just too convenient and affordable.

[@josephherman5790]

Criterion is NOT a boutique selling,they've been around since the 80's,when they sold Laserdisc's .Which I had most of and I have a few on Blu ray as well.

[@AVAPopCulture]

yeah they have been around but they are not a studio so they still kinda go under the boutique umbrella...and they are certainly "boutique" when it comes to 4k releases - they didnt drop one of those until after Arrow, Kino lorber, Scream Factory, and Vinegar Syndrome had already been doing it for a year or two...but to me, boutique is a catch all term for "non-studio"

[@AVAPopCulture]

@thomgizziz lol whatever you say cool guy

[@AVAPopCulture]

@thomgizziz by Definition: noun: boutique; plural noun: boutiques 1. A small store selling popular or specialty items. So, nobody is inventing Definitions...

[@SignalChange]

Nah. You're just streaming from the wrong places.

[@pongchannel.]

I mean streaming isn't going to die but at least for me I use both streaming and physical media because I don't see any need to have more than Netflix and Hulu(&D+ bundle)/Max (depending on which at the time I want) or the prices add up

[@ivana6141]

Physical will die a slow death but streaming here to stay. They will cycle between squeezing the consumer and providing value.

[@AVAPopCulture]

hmmm I have been hearing that about physical media for 20+ years and meanwhile I see streaming having to merge, add commercials, raise prices, and eliminate content just to try and survive while 4k sales are on the rise and more and more physical media producers are opening...

[@ivana6141]

@AVAPopCulture they are squeezing profits. As more people leave or reduce services they have to increase the value to get customers back.

[@Anonymous-wb3nz]

LOL, ok.

[@heavensea141]

Wrong. Its growing more and more '

[@KrGsMrNKusinagi0]

yea i have experienced it.. Had bought content pulled and cant redownload it or watch it.. Physical is the only way for me

[@AVAPopCulture]

that sucks but unfortunately it is going to take some of these people getting burned before they realize that physical media is the way! no matter what happens in the world, I will have my movies, my books, my records etc that nobody can take or censor!

[@Kronos21782]

I stream stuff, but I have about 2,500 to 3,000 DVDs, and about 1,000 Blu-rays... I am not slowing down and greatly prefer physical media. Physical media is incredible, I love it, collect it, and watch multiple discs a week. I have a degree in Radio and TV. Censorship is not just old content, but heavily censored in new content. Quite frankly, censorship is ridiculous. You have many valid points. Subscribed.

[@AVAPopCulture]

thanks so much for subbing and taking the time to post! Censorship has gotten out of hand and what is worse is it is censorship of things that those in control think someone might find offensive...I mean wow, anyone can be offended by anything! We used to call that comedy, art, storytelling etc LOL

[@DisappointedSon0813]

Good. I hope streaming dies out completely. It's so toxic.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Agreed

[@Moonlite.88]

Agreed. I'm so tired of this digital age. I refuse to own nothing and be happy. Many of the points that were made in this video are the reason why I still collect original print DVDs and Blurays.

[@batsjapan]

Amen. Finally someone who understands the current situation. Hopefully there is a concerted effort to turn things around. Physical media forever!

[@AVAPopCulture]

Here's hoping!!!! Physical Media forever!

[@drummerkev1627]

I love hearing this! Streaming doesn’t come close to physical media’s quality!

[@AVAPopCulture]

agreed!!

[@ChillCollins616]

I know, streaming is better

[@AVAPopCulture]

@@ChillCollins616 suuuuure, streaming is better if you like 💩quality, controlled choices, raising prices, and censorship...if you like those, streaming is better LOL

[@jamied1579]

Been collecting physical media in some form for almost 30 years. Collected Blu-rays since 2008 and 4Ks since 2016. I love collecting and wouldn't have it any other way. I don't subscribe to any cable or streaming services at all, hell, I don't even watch broadcast tv any more, I have dozens of TV shows on blu-ray and of course, can always 'sail the high seas' to check out new cable shows n what not, also a good way of 'Try before You Buy'. There are many people who love consuming movies and TV shows but completely uninterested in collecting, so streaming or subscription viewing I think will always be around in some form or another - it's just so convenient, far more so than having to drive down to the video store as we used to in days gone by. The only down side to being a physical media collector is of course storage space, which will always be a problem. But I really enjoy seeing things on the shelf - adds another layer of tangibility to owing them lock, stock and barrel, as it were...

[@FilmAppreciationSociety]

You're not wrong. Something has to change in the entertainment industry or they will tank the business. You can't spend $200 million on a movie and pull it from the theaters in a couple weeks and put it up on streaming for "free." People are skipping theaters and costing the studios millions of dollars. And they've mostly eliminated physical media as a viable, profitable model because no one is going to buy a $25 Blu-ray of something they can watch on a streaming service they are already subscribed to. I think we'll see a shift in the next few years or the business will tank.

[@AVAPopCulture]

they are digging their hole deeper rather than admitting the old ways may have been the better ways lol

[@JohnDoe-bz4yl]

With the physical copys of my movies I own they can't put in ads and then try and charge me extra for an ad free movie

[@AVAPopCulture]

amen to that!!!

[@wileyjdraws7594]

Netflix is the only streaming service I ever had and I haven't had that in years what I do have is over 1500 DVDs

[@AVAPopCulture]

This is the way...🤠

[@wileyjdraws7594]

@@fritzthecat8158 about a dozen

[@callumrogers3129]

I only have amazon prime for the quick delivery of the physical media that I get from Amazon.

[@JohnDoe-bz4yl]

that's the only reason I have Amazon is for the free delivery

[@021om6]

Every time I buy a 4k or a blu ray I get so happy that I will own it forever and nobody will take it from me

[@drummerkev1627]

I’ve shared this video with just about everyone I know. I am not a fan of streaming services but a huge fan of of physical media! I couldn’t agree more with this video!

[@AVAPopCulture]

Hell yeah! This is the way lol... I really appreciate you sharing the video too! Physical media all the way baby!!

[@keancv]

A top video, 100% With a disc the customer is more iin controll. the disc can be watched anywhere, or even loaned out

[@FilmAppreciationSociety]

Most DVDs seem to be fine. I've got titles from the late 90s that still work perfectly fine. However Warner Bros. titles pressed from 2006-2009 have been failing in large quantities. This has been attributed to faulty manufacturing at a Pennsylvania facility so it doesn't matter if you keep care of them or not. Check these titles I had a lot that no longer play. They won't even start up and many that do will freeze up at some point. But outside of this problem I do believe that DVDs and BDs will last forever if you take care of them.

[@AVAPopCulture]

knock on wood, I have only had issues with discs that I have scratched...but these things are not going to self destruct like they try to convince people LOL

[@CHRISMED2]

Well spoken.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Thank you so much! I'm pretty passionate about this topic lol

[@superg50zero32]

My main gripe is the censorship of movies and TV shows from the streaming services now they're adding commercials and raising prices, for me that was the last straw. I still have Netflix which at least produces new content every month. I've been collecting physical media since 1986 going from VHS, DVD to Blu-Ray / 4K and I don't think I'm going to stop anytime soon.

[@AVAPopCulture]

censorship is the last straw for me! as a filmmaker, artist, and fan, that is a bridge you do not cross in my opinion! then if you make me pay more and have commercials, all you have done is create cable that I also have to pay for fast internet to get LOL

[@jrlangdon89]

Keep up the good work

[@AVAPopCulture]

thank you!!

[@heavensea141]

Love you're Channel ❤ Have shared I'm manly an phycical singelplayer gamer. Been since the Playstation 1 area As you confirm with WHS' No problem with any of the consoles all perfectly working, same goes for all my physical games. 😃👍

[@AVAPopCulture]

thank you! I really do appreciate it!

[@bal5884]

Great video, just subbed mate. Streaming is not for me. Filled with lots of crap. I only watch 70/80/90s and some early 2000, I'm not interested in new films. I can't stand censorship and all the woke nonsense. I don't want to be paying every month, I'm 42 so I grew up on vhs and still have my old school WWF tapes and buy dvds and blu rays

[@AVAPopCulture]

hey thanks man! I am just a couple years older than you and I 100% agree!!! I happen to like being offended by movies/art if it makes me think or just have fun LOL -btw, I still have the first 3 Wrestlemanias on VHS!

[@rafaelgonzalez4858]

Awesome video speaking nothing but the truth, we need more supporters of physical media.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Thank you!!! And yep, we need every Physical Media supporter we can get!

[@hic7021]

I get movies for $2 and whole seasons of a show for $10 at local pawn shops. Why stream?

[@AVAPopCulture]

this is the way lol...and you never have to buy them again!

[@crboyd254]

Great video!

[@AVAPopCulture]

thank you so much!!! I am glad you enjoyed it, I am pretty passionate about this subject lol

[@BorikenWarrior]

I cancelled Disney+ because their price increases are ridiculous. I only had it because my wife wanted to watch the classic Disney films and was not interested in the newer offerings. What I did was buy my wife the Disney classics on Blu-ray. I have thus far bought her fifteen discs in the past few weeks and she's happy. Basically, I can buy the discs for less than a one year Disney+ subscription. And not just that, I have over 200 movies on Laser and CED disc. Last thing, I have been buying vinyl records again. I have a couple of hundred records and I am adding new vinyl on a monthly basis. That's how things are at least with me.

[@AVAPopCulture]

sounds very similar to how things are for me! I have found that my favorite things on Disney+ are the old stuff and some of the documentaries - Im not even sure how that subscription would work once the merge with HBOMax happens

[@erickvoshel1]

Hello AVA Pop Culture, Love your metaphor of drugs & drug dealers. You are spot on. Streaming is a drug. The streaming services are the dealers that want us to keep coming back for more & like any addictive drug, what does the dealer do? They raise the price until we can't afford it anymore.

[@AVAPopCulture]

hey! thank you lol...that was literally the only metaphor I could think of and sadly, it fit perfectly!

[@frommatorav1]

I like that analogy, too. I do use streaming services but I have them tailored how I want, the premium ad-free versions. They want you to pay less and buy the ad versions of the streaming platform; ie sell me crack instead of a pure prescription drug. I can afford them because I dropped cable and bought an antenna for local TV broadcasts. Local broadcasters hate that because they don't get their retransmission fees from cable or live TV streaming. I still have to watch ads on live TV but I DVR all the shows I want to see. On top of that I buy 4k UHD blurays of my favorite movies. I also collect and download movies via internet. 🏴‍☠⛵for archival purposes only. I hate censoring, so I like having digital and disc backups.

[@Vivian-wj6yw]

I mean, you might as well this point just fucking pirate everything and make everyone's suffer the consequences of pure greed. At least when it comes to them, trying to push streaming as having no alternative. Or just buy physical. I feel like as an American. We have way too many damn choices anyways. The way streaming has made things. It's sad because it's like we are not appreciators of fine art anymore. At least not when it comes to streaming. We have just become caught in the madness of mindless consumerism. How can you really appreciate anything if all you do mindlessly consume? Like for me personally, out of my 70 somethings physical games (not counting several hundred digital), I have literally several PlayStation 5 games and Switch games still in its shrink wrapping. Some games I may never play. I have accepted this. Simply put, there's too much to watch too much to play too much to listen to and not enough time to do it. I think at this point I would rather just have less is more. A pure focus on quality rather than quantity. But that's how it is with music. That's how it is with gaming. That's how it is with movies. It's just too much shit. We don't need these many fucking choices. We were never supposed to spend our lives in front of a TV. I know what i'm saying is falling on deaf ears for most people.

[@ericspalacio]

Hey, you just got yourself an instant subscriber, it’s about time somebody said this, and thank you for making that statement and bringing it to us here on KZbin. You’re just one person and hopefully this reaches other people and gives them the courage/balls to say the same Thing, or at least elaborate on what you have put out here. The KZbinrs/content creators have lost their steam over this issue and for a moment it started to sicken me, you have started a beautiful fire up creation, we need to give people back what they have earned to have in their hands and take home, and share an enjoy with others. Cassette tapes, laser disks, vinyl records are all here and can be bought for brand new online or starting in the past 10 years recently on storage shelves, vinyl records, being that along with some places starting to carry brand new cassettesfrom new artists. Thanks for helping the ship get back on course. 6:48

[@AVAPopCulture]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate you subscribing and taking the time to write such an amazing comment!! I will never shy away from this topic...I fought with distribution companies who put out my indie movies in order to get physical releases...physical media is super important to me and should be for everyone!

[@TheOriginalFuzz]

Great stuff man! Just found your channel and subbed.

[@AVAPopCulture]

hey! thanks man! I love how this community finds each other and supports each other! I just subbed to your channel, I look forward to watching some vids!!

[@TheOriginalFuzz]

@@AVAPopCulture Thanks so much! Appreciate that. Look forward to seeing more of your content.

[@OG_G4m3r]

Based content. Subbed.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Thank you for watching and deciding to hang around!! Welcome aboard my crazy train! 🤣

[@user-KUSTOM3MDB]

. . Best part is the more people get back to physical media, the prices for it will begin to come down. The technology will make old media transfers to a restored content media will become easier to produce. . I'm into having my media available without the need of the internet in any format. . . 🤬😎

[@SRMoore1178]

I like to OWN my music. It just feels right to have the CD and the booklet for the bands I like. I've never done the streaming or "playlist" stuff. I like to listen to just one band at a time. I'm weird like that. Sure, I may rip the CDs into mp3s so I can stuff everything onto an mp3 player in easy to find files. If I'm driving, I'll have one band in mind (or my own music I record on my DAW) and listen to that band the whole way on short trips.

[@AVAPopCulture]

that is the great thing about physical media, you can use it however you want! It is an individual and personal experience that all digital cant touch!

[@sirducksworthythe3rd842]

Streaming has been dead since the day they started raising prices the first time, and I have always say streaming isn't the future and people laughed, Walmart my is getting smaller and smaller with their physical media section sadly

[@AVAPopCulture]

Streaming is a dead end... surprised about your Walmarts though, around here in the Atlanta area they Walmarts close by me are expanding their physical media sections!

[@Beetleejuicee]

Yup i left cable for the commercials and bullshit. Now streaming is exactly the same as cable and even worse. Good for them because I’m done with streaming and I canceled most of my streaming services. They will not be able to sustain people on their platforms when they don’t cater to the customers. People are fed up with bullshit cable and advertising. People just want entertainment when they want it. Them putting commercials in streaming just makes me get up and stop watching so keep it up 😂. Not only that used to be worth it for streaming. Could have alll the apps for $30 a month and NOW you need $30 JUST to get the 4K version on EACH app lol. I mean they are realllly killing streaming. All it did was jump me back into physical media again and I’m not stopping. Physical media is going into a hugee resurgence right now like the height of the covid hobby era. Physical media is flying off the shelves. Releases are selling out in the first week of pre-orders. They have already killed streaming. If they want people back have to get rid of pay/view quality, less ads/none, less BULLSHIT. Otherwise streaming will be dead. These companies do NOT want you to have physical media or anything owned in your life. They want to control everything in your lives. They just keep pushing the limits to see who they can get. Stop falling into the trap. Get your own everything and stop being dependent on studios, on the government, on everything.

[@mexicanlucky]

What no body has looked into or though about is the ease of money laundering with streaming services and digital media.. Example: I spent 1billion (1,000,000millions) in lord of the rings, but oh geez it was a flop sorry wont happen again😅. Meanwhile there is no way IRS can track all the expense for the production because most of it is cgi, how can you put a price on a Bad cgi vs good Cgi? How can you price bad writing vs good writing? They all get their cut

[@brennp79]

I disagree Streaming will disappear forever. But i do agree it'll eventually become the new cable. Im a bit physical Media proponent, so i hope itll return in a big way, maybe there'll be a balance there, but i dont think streaming will ever fully disappear.

[@automatedrussianbot8043]

burnable blu-ray discs are also cheap these days because "nobody" buys them, so sometimes you can find really good deals in some stores(better GB/$ than HDDs sometimes) for people who want custom blurays

[@waynegroleau3946]

Hi Chase! I'm an older guy than you at 72 & I agree with everything that you said! I'm a lover of movies & have a large physical media collection, so I've subscribed to your channel and look forward to more content like this!

[@AVAPopCulture]

Hey thank you so much! I love movies and physical media and I am very passionate about it! I am glad you enjoyed it enough to subscribe and stick around!!

[@C4nn15]

Still remember the movies and games I've lost digitally thanks to things like regional changes, or a provider closing or or... So yeah still an advocate for physical.

[@DanielMussen-ob7uo]

32G Bit|500G.Bit|2.T.Bit Past Present Future

[@Franksmediaandreviews]

Great video and discussion! Just like you said, streaming is basically going to cable. 🤣

[@AVAPopCulture]

Thanks man! It really is just going to cable lol... I think the only thing holding it together are the heads of the company's egos 🤣

[@Franksmediaandreviews]

@@AVAPopCulture lol. Facts!

[@JohnDoe-bz4yl]

I don't agree with the streamers editing the movie to suite modern audiences the dialogue and actions in certain movies are products of their time what next? they cut scenes out of Schindler's List and try to rewrite history

[@AVAPopCulture]

that is the problem! it is a slippery slope because "where does it end"?

[@sakunaruful]

I remember when movies were advertised on VHS and DVD commercials in the late 90’s and early 2000’s for Disney and other studios.

[@pennylessplantation]

All the editing, censorship, piss poor programs, girl bossing won’t be done on my dime. I knew long ago Netflix was no longer for me. That ended around 10 years ago and was my only subscription I had after cable.

[@AVAPopCulture]

This is the way!!!!

[@eyeballytrauma]

Excellent video, I’m gonna go ahead and subscribe. One thing I don’t hear people talk about much is the Vinyl LP thing. I think some people don’t realize that LPs coming back didn’t happen overnight. It seemed that way when they started appearing in Walmarts but there was a very healthy boutique market for new Vinyl way back in 2013ish I think, I was there when vinyl records started being pressed again can’t remember the exact year but it took almost a decade or so for LPs to breach the mainstream and come back full force. We will see a similar resurgence for movies on physical media, boutique boom right now, mainstream penetration will come later no doubt.

[@AVAPopCulture]

Thank you! I appreciate the subscription and the kind words and I 100% agree! I think as people see these 4k restorations and all of these extra features, they will begin to see the better quality and more value than digital, more of the true cinema experience that digital misses just like with records vs cds and digital downloads

[@MegaSantaclaude]

My boss had been searching high and low on streaming services for the Super Mario movie but couldnt find it anywhere. So I told him i could borrow him my blu ray of it if he wanted, and he happily obliged. It was a good moment. 😄

[@AVAPopCulture]

that is always a good feeling isnt it? when your collection trumps everyone's streaming fetish lol

[@VolkXue]

most of the super rare stuff doesnt even exist on psychical media today

[@AVAPopCulture]

Way more of it exists on physical media than on streaming...Netflix for example is down to just over 3k total titles counting tv shows and their original content...Blockbuster and Hollywood video carried between 10k and 12k titles per store

[@VolkXue]

@@AVAPopCulture a lot of the hardcore cult classic stuff like the 80s b rate stuff have no current psychical release. Now you're not going to find it on a netflix or an amazon either. Maybe Tubi lol You can find some around the Internet Archive if you dig but a lot is just posted out there in the wild free. Just kinda people putting it up and saving it before its lost to time.

[@hvitekristesdod]

When there is no more room in Hulu, the discs will walk the earth

[@AVAPopCulture]

Lol that just cracked me up for real

[@hvitekristesdod]

@@AVAPopCulture Glad to hear! Great video