The Deathadder V3 Pro Isn't Reallllly a Deathadder

[@awzup57]

its weird. I dont remember logi getting as much flak for the superlight. I know they did and some people hated the price but I dont remember this level of discussion around this transition to lightweight stuff. Its almost like logi benefited from holding back on features for their mice. Both companies made sacrifices to arrive at a low weight and high price. but razer seems hurt more by it because they had more features to strip away.

[@shaekisbat5043]

and remember logi used the same sensor, the exact same shell and the same shitty omron switches on the superlight and still charged a huge markup. At least razer is pushing the technology on their mice as overkill and unnecessary as they may be.

[@jaykera]

Logitech has some staunch defender’s for… some reason

[@dennisalarcon9175]

It's more like, logitech did it almost 2 years ago, when the market wasn't as competitive. Why get a deathadder v3 pro when the pulsar xlite v2 exists. There is too much competition nowadays to sell such a normal spec mouse at 150.

[@ayyayyron]

Logitech didn't get flak because the superlight launched in a market with almost no saturation. The only real competition at the time was finalmouse, who also had ridiculous prices. The $60-$80 lightweight mice started becoming well known after the superlight released. Razer is releasing this mouse into a market that now has heavy competition at far lower price points, and doesn't really offer anything new over their competition.

[@badseedtech]

Yeah that's a great point. I remember have a *small* vocal minority that weren't thrilled with the Superlight, but mostly people were excited to get a big-brand performance mouse that didn't have holes. The lightweight wireless game was mostly served by like G-Wolves and others if memory serves. Maaaybe Glorious, can't remember when MoW dopped. Felt like a bunch of low quality, generic mice with holes at that time. But yeah, to your other point, the 1/2 combo of the Viper Ult and the DAv2 on the dock was it for me - I didn't mind the heavier weight on the DAv2 bc I knew what it was and what I was gonna use it for.

[@badseedtech]

INNACCURATE INFO AT 1:10 - the measurement labels on the EC2 are incorrect, the listed values are for the EC1. DAv3 *is* still a longer, taller EC2. It is a hair wider though - not narrower. Sorry for the botched graphic.

[@rubene.3944]

Innaccurate info is at 1:10 !

[@ogbladed3311]

This version of the da is just a mamba wireless with a new name the look pretty must the same or is it just me

[@michaelthompson9798]

I loved “Clippy” from MS 🥰👍

[@BaxTechYT]

I’m glad to see a good refresh on the deathadder design. It was my first mouse. The price is pretty hard to swallow though, and the lack of a top DPI button. I do love Razer’s optical switches, but I think for the price I’d rather go for the glorious or Pwnage ergo options

[@klever891]

Pwnage ergo is so good but no supported glides and the holes get messy for sure

[@Ankah]

Nice mouse Too expensive Go for Pulsar xlite v2 : top tier perfs, fair price

[@aaronlawrence6350]

Love to see USB-C charging, but does it use a proprietary cable shape like their prior micro-USB cables did? Not much good to use a universal charging standard if they make it only fit their trapezoidal cables...

[@badseedtech]

Great question! Happy to report it works with every USB-C cable I have on my desk.

[@Divinity_vA]

Relatable @Aaron. I lost my Ninjutsu Origin One X charging cable and went throught 10 cables to find one that barely fits to charge my mouse. Really kills the whole purpose of "type-C".

[@TangoMikeOscar]

Totally agree that its less mouse for more money, as other people have said I bought the v2 for most of the features they have now removed and found it very comfortable they didn't need to change anything other than USB C and the rubberised sides as they wear out very quickly. Unfortunately they took away the 2 main features that I bought the v2 for; Dock compatibility and Bluetooth mode. Sadly I wont be buying the v3.

[@foist101]

Everything was sounding good up until the price. Killing all those features I didn't care about only to see how much they still want for it was a bit of a bummer.

[@dranawor]

How would you compare this to a Model D wireless?

[@badseedtech]

Size and shape *roughly* the same. DAv3 has better palm support, higher scroll wheel, triggers feel much better.

[@MichaelBertolino]

They NEED to release the Basilisk V3 Pro already! It's been over two years now! Having a mouse with three thumb buttons changes the game entirely. Once you experience it, you'll never want to go back

[@TechKile]

I agree

[@MichaelBertolino]

@@TechKile W

[@MekaniQ]

@@TechKile yoo kyle!

[@shrillyy1604]

Yeah I liked my old G502. But i wouldn’t take it over mice companies are making now. Lighter mice are so much more nimble. But it was a hard change

[@TechKile]

@@MekaniQ @Michael Bertolino aye what’s up fam

[@hwi7114]

I think this was a good move on Razer's part, the Deathadder is a comfortable shape, but previous to this model they have always been crazy heavy. I have the Viper V2 Pro, but tempted to get this mouse simply because I haven't used a Deathadder for a good 10 years and it would be kind of nostalgic.

[@tvm2209]

Who is the viper v2 pro for and who is the deathadder v3 for? (Regardless of price) I have average/smaller hands as I’m 5’7” male at 169 lbs

[@jonijarkko123]

@@tvm2209 The deathadder is for 6'10 330lbs males with tiny hands.

[@GrandSekiza]

Idk I think the V2 is better with more button options. This feels like its competing in the wrong category.

[@7ngel]

Exactly. As a long time death adder user I feel the same way.

[@justinedzard]

I'm kinda scared for Razer's dock now, I hope they don't just forget about it, I've used the dock since the Ouroboros days and now with the Viper Ultimate and DA V2 Pro, and it's one of the best "gimmick" any manufacturer has ever given the consumer IMO

[@sznmyhatred]

I love razer dock

[@re4796]

It is useless

[@7ngel]

My favorite part of the death adder is the flared clicks as no matter where my fingers are it’s always able to click. That’s the issue I have with any other mouse the edge of my middle finger always hits the edge of the mouse and messes with my right click. Huge shame they changed that. Also no dpi buttons in the middle. I really see this as a downgrade.

[@JDAWG2111]

This is a MAJOR downgrade from the V2 Pro. The significant redesign, that whole list of features removed, the removal of the side rubberized grips (forcing you to use the much uglier grip tape if you want it). I'm so glad I recently picked up the V2 Pro for cheap.

[@nir300]

I honestly think this new shape looks bad :/ it's not a deathadder anymore!

[@justinedzard]

Yeah, those flares and the ergo shape are the main reason that I mained two mice now, the RVU and DA V2 Pro, Viper for comps, DA for light work and casual games

[@Divinity_vA]

@@JDAWG2111 Well, lucky for you as i highly doubt they're going to discontinue the old DA any time soon. The price may even drop more. I got mine for 80€ months ago. It seems to be "on sale" for the past 6-7 months in my country every other week. It's not my shape and i haven't used it for over a week in total but it's very good mouse indeed. As for downgrade, it's targetted towards different audience but, i don't like the "less features, less plastic, higher price" marketing tactic that has been floating around for the past year. Not just with Razer, but everyone else that falls into that category.

[@FriendNotFoeBand]

They talked to everyone on Reddit and everyone seemed to feel that the flares were the main thing holding the shape back. Maybe everyone against the change should have spoke up.

[@PoppaCYS]

Death Adder V2 Pro was a great mouse. I love mine. It was close to a perfect mouse to me. Wished the V2 had a USB-C, but otherwise, I wouldn't want anything changed.

[@lampkb]

Your thoughts on the DA are exactly how I felt about the Viper. Great mouse and performed excellent but $150 is such a steep ask for a big box retailer. Great video, super informative. Saved me a couple dollars too 😂

[@REZY_]

I agree with you about the getting less mouse for more money, most people are not serious competitive gamers. Its hard to fork over $150 for a lightweight ergo when you have mice like the Xlite and Model D wireless (Now pro version too) out there. I love Razers efforts of bringing something new to the table though, cant wait to see what they have in the books next. Great review as always B!

[@PatrikZero]

The dimensions on 1:14 for the Zowie mouse are for the EC1 not for the EC2. I am pretty sure its labelled incorrectly if you go by the official measurements by zowie on their site. This had me disappointed for like 2 hours until I saw other reviews because I was looking for a mouse strictly wider than the EC2, this made it seems it would be narrower.

[@badseedtech]

Ah shit, good catch man. Sorry for the headache - I’ll put a pinned comment up.

[@jokerproduction]

Great thumbnail and title.

[@badseedtech]

Thanks man!

[@MicahTheZombie]

I got the DAV3 wired and i really loved it but the cable was just a bit too stiff, i think if they made the wire on it super flexible like previous wired razer mouses i've owned, i gladly would've given up the 8000hz polling rate for a better cable. So i'm really glad I tried the DAV3 pro. Getting rid of that wire got rid of my only complaint. It's really expensive but it's a good mouse.

[@morrays1996]

Yes! A taller death adder now I can finally wrest my palm on it. Which was the main reason why I used the rival 310 for so long

[@mikeweatherford5312]

Wired version is 50$ and features 8k polling and is 59G… excellent mouse feels great in hand and never needs to be charged. 150’s a big ask when the wired version is so good at 1/3 the price…

[@bo5ibbs]

Dude, you put a lot of work into your videos and it shows. Really good stuff. Thank you for doing what you do.

[@badseedtech]

Thanks so much! 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@sasso3844]

3:50 holy shit.. that's exactly what I hate about razer clicks for some reason always. No matter if it's their newest flagship. nah man that sounds horrible

[@Zyanide09]

Im getting more of a Razer Mamba vibe with this, instead of the Deathadder.

[@AllPinck]

Man, I didn't even notice the grin until you pointed it out, cannot un-see!

[@riopacheco01]

Getting rid of the Bluetooth is such a miss for them. That was one of the main reason I love my DAV2. Hoping they bring it back one day :(

[@88Opportunist]

Never been a Deathadder fan, in fact I couldn't stand the shape previously. This new mouse however looks like one I definitely want to try though I guess that won't be anytime soon thanks to that price (to be fair that goes for all wireless mice). A change from shell-buttons to separated buttons is ALWAYS the right move. Don't mind the deletion of RGB but I do mind not having any sort of battery indicator light on the mouse.

[@GiLLyMGL]

$150 is too expensive!!!!

[@Aries0098]

I'll go with a wired version...

[@savalije2405]

This mouse is trying to be g pro wireless more than deathadder

[@FullHavocJosh]

Good to see light ergo shapes getting more love from the more mainstream manufacturers.

[@iJansport]

@Stephen Black check out the pulsar xlite v2, they also have a mini size if your hands are smaller.

[@H_Wizard]

I expect LOTS of leaked b-roll when you get the viper mini wireless in. Great vid!

[@ChocolateVanille]

The "big thing" you're missing is a reasonable price. $150 for this is a joke with the Pulsar X2 at $95.

[@badseedtech]

Was it the part where I said it was really expensive and then specifically mentioned the Xlite v2?

[@ChocolateVanille]

@@badseedtech Haha, what came right after that where you talk about missing that big thing that would make you recommend everyone go out and buy it. It's literally just the price. I don't think anyone can make a mouse for $150 that would prompt that reaction.

[@vangeles11]

The extra effort to film yourself washing your hands just to play it when you mentioned washing your hands super briefly is top notch my friend. Bravo.

[@krebsgewehr]

I think getting rid of the lighting just frees you up to leave synapse closed which probably works for a lot of people. The one thing I miss is dpi buttons. If I need a mouse this light I obviously don't like lifting things.

[@tylerd9175]

How much are you actually changing dpi though? I never do once it’s set up

[@krebsgewehr]

@@tylerd9175 Sometimes when switching up between monitors or whatever I can but not too often. It's just like keyboards putting switches on the bottom I might only switch from mac to windows or on to off 2-4 times a day but it could just be on the side?

[@MastRYT]

2:58 is no one gonna talk about the dirtyness on the feet😭

[@rev8962]

7:10 you always do be that smooth with those ads real amazing work my brother, keep it up.

[@chrisdotdash5154]

I've been a long time viewer of your channel and your video never disappoint. Keep up the great content.

[@badseedtech]

Thank you so much

[@hubert3637]

DeathAdder V2 pro is still the best mouse I have ever had.

[@viper341]

I find the dramatic changes to such a classic design dissapointing. I have both a deathadder V2 and a glorius model D. I have both because I love the uniqeness of the Deathadder V2, now it's basically just a slightly different version of the model D losing it's uniqeness and specialness. If I wanted to buy a model D I'd buy a model D, I like the Deathadder for what it is and now witht the v3 thats gone. I think Im going to buy a few Deathadder V2s because unfortunately, it looks like you wont be able to get anything like that again which is really sad.

[@HelloImCrimson]

Handwashing game on point. I hate the oily feeling on my mouse from my fingers after some use. Even use a microfiber cloth to clean the mouse.

[@scarletvan4749]

While the side flares are iconic, i like that razer finally make the sides, especially the fronts, straighter now. My grip is relaxed claw and i like to stretch my ring finger all the way to the front of the mouse so those flares really got in the way back when i used a DA 2013.

[@thegamerfromjuipiter7545]

I would have launched this as a different product. It seems like a nice mouse, but the death adder shape being almost identical generation to generation was what I felt the main selling point of the name was.

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

i'm so afraid of buying this mouse and having to return it because the shape is so different. The first time I put my hands on a DA (had a chroma) was like "perfect shape". And I eventually got other mice and none gave me that feeling again. I was wishing for a wireless DA for so long. I think i'm going to get the V2 Pro instead, it's probably safer

[@erichagele]

When are you going to review that MZ1 Wireless??? That mouse is the best on the market imo. 😎

[@ammarzaquan5552]

this mouse looks similar to the logitech g pro

[@kariyui]

Badseed more like basedseed

[@Misfirem]

MORE HAND WASHING B ROLL. You gon have the CDC bricked up if you keep playin like this The idea of what is essentially an ergo viper v2 is pretty cool for the ergo people out there, but it has the same issue in that its way overpriced for what its offering (I say this while using the viper v2 that i LOVE). Its fantastic once you have it, but that price is tough. Overall though, seems good. Need more ergo shapes in the market. You also look great homie, keep up the good work in the gym

[@badseedtech]

Actually choked reading that first line

[@蛇王-y9b]

too bad this mouse is too big lol , but seems like Razer doesn't like to release any mini version

[@xxtingyxx9497]

The big boys are charging a premium price for a worse product. It's lighter. Great job razer., They were selling way more mouse a little while back for the same price. We are now beyond the tipping point and we are openly being gouged pretty much across the board with anything to do with gaming on pc. One positive, maybe Logitech will release a lightweight 703 to answer this

[@paulmartinez34]

Razer should make a deathadder v3 mini wired with the new shape of the deathaddver v3 but dimensions should be on the da v2 mini. And yes i love the da v2 mini it’s perfect for my handsize 17x10 and gripstyle of relax claw

[@nunyabz9494]

i loved the deathadder, but then the size was being uncomfortable, then they came out with the deathadder v2 mini, got that, loved it a lot but sadly it's not wireless, hope this is good or i just go for the v3 basilisk pro, rn im using viper ultimate

[@CR0WYT]

Even as a competitive player, I don't really see 4K polling rate as a necessity. Plenty of pros still use 1000 or even 500 in big tournaments and still perform well.

[@the13thkillzone]

This honestly feels like a downgrade. I hope their non pro version brings back all of the features, it's why I bought a V2 pro deathadder in the first place.

[@ThePlantedTankTV]

I just bought this thing and I couldnt be happier. So comfy.

[@DJaquithFL]

ALL I WANTED .. is a "Superlight" ~60g or less Deathadder wireless. Not this whatever the hell it is.

[@keanuf1]

Seems like a good option for EC1/EC2 users who are sick of waiting for Zowie to release wireless versions

[@americo117]

Man I'm really gonna miss the bluetooth mode. I use the v2 for both work and gaming

[@BamiCodm]

all games only support 1000hz and i have the 8khz razer which doesnt use its full potential

[@spider0804]

I hated the flare it was like it was trying to bend my ring ringer in a non natural way. New mouse looks nice but the loud clicks are a no go for me.

[@throwsnbrews9516]

Just need a lighter weight basilisk now... and put the paddle back on.

[@xXDarthBagginsXx]

I like the look, definitely made some good edits to the DA, just wish it was 118-120mm long. Since i invested in the GProxSL almost 2yrs ago, it's been a hard mouse to beat imo (adding the LGG Glass skates made it better imo). Just want to see Razer drop alot of their wireless tech into smaller footprint pro line as well, would be a game changer for the market.

[@iJansport]

There's always the xlite v2 mini at 55 grams and 117mm long if you need a small wireless ergo

[@cr0p_dustin]

I've owned multiple Deathadders through the years... But I won't be buying this one. It seems they took everything I love about the mouse and got rid of it. The shape was perfect, this one... Not so much. They got rid of DPI buttons, I use these ALL THE TIME on my V2. They got rid of dock charging... Why?! They took away the nice grips (I've owned many, never had a degradation issue with mine). And they got rid of Bluetooth so I can't just pick this up and walk into my recording booth and turn it to Bluetooth to connect to my Mac like I do with my V2. They literally took away everything I liked about the V2...

[@rivall8105]

WTF $150, I thought it wwas gonna be like $60 at most

[@whytronicnorthborn7269]

csgo 2012-14 = razer deathadder v1 era 2015-2020 = zowie ec2 era 2020-2022 = logitech gpx 2022-onwards = razer da v3 with ec2 shape + modern features

[@jimmyohdez]

Why do I buy every fucking gaming mouse??? My Best Buy credit card is exclusively for gaming mice apparently.

[@phlooke]

Kinda bummed you didn't get Razer tattoos on your ARM and forehead like "The Teche". Lol, solid honest review as usual 👌

[@xyr3s]

I'm seeing people talk about how awesome the death adder is, over here the v3 pro is fracking 200 dollaridoos lol. I was like "ummmmm, if u are paying more than a 100 for a mouse, damn right it should be gods gift to earth" lol.

[@M_jamessnell]

DAV3...? So we shall name it... Dave

[@badseedtech]

Yes, henceforth shall be known as the Razer Dave

[@Kpaxlol]

Am I alone for liking the new shape ? I really had this bad feeling about old DA, I overall liked the shape, but at some angles I couldn't aim as well as with something like the G pro. I dig the new shape and experimental ideas of razer tbh. I do thing the old DA needs a little change somewhere in its shape. I just can't tell what. Like really.

[@Reeeepicheep]

No bluetooth or RGB, this is a massive downgrade from the V2 Pro, now available for $60

[@lummoxicide1502]

$150!? how

[@kwispy670]

when you have money, buying this mouse doesnt really mean anything, im not talking about being rich, im saying when your building a setup, 200 aud isnt gonna be alot in comparison to like 3000$

[@sheikhtashdeedahmed2740]

Not worth anywhere near $149 lol People should stick to their DA V2 wireless.

[@KennyKennTV]

$280AUD in australia, straight up scam price. Works out to be $199USD for a $149USD mouse. Even the viper v2 pro with the same US RRP $149. was $250AUD ($178USD) Wtf

[@user-uk9ph3me5b]

bruh pls just tell me what mouse i need to get. i have a deathadder v2 it just broke been using one forever. thinking of getting the viper mini cuz its only $35

[@rev8962]

An amazing review overall and really hit up amazing job on the details perfect. Stay up.

[@pulsegaming2152]

you need to know that i found this video while in a bad mood after breaking a mouse, i saw the title " the deathadder v3 pro isnt really a deathadder" and i mocked it with sass like " oh ya wth is it then, what makes you so special to start un-naming products, hater" and then i quickly went "oh its brian! whats he gotta say, i believe him" lmao

[@affinity601]

I love the hand washing b-roll lmao

[@badseedtech]

In b4 someone told me to just wash my hands lol

[@MrDeluxe1155]

After using the real "deathadder" for last 15 years I decided to try this one. Build quality is great and the buttons felt fantastic but it's not the deathadder I like. Far too light and not enough width for me. Sent it straight back

[@andwhat390]

Couldn’t find anyone with similar opinion online, I can’t stand light and small mouses that nowadays is a trend, and I don’t have big hands, so used to v1-v2 shapes, can’t game with v3

[@MrDeluxe1155]

@@andwhat390 have you tried the Razer viper 8k, it is on the lighter side but not super light and a touch smaller but it is my now go to model replacing my deathadder.

[@andwhat390]

@@MrDeluxe1155 I have touched display model at the Best Buy, symmetrical mouses is not my thing 😂 I’m thinking of getting Dv2 pro, off like Amazon, but thank you

[@ericmaher4756]

I recently got the wired version, and it feels like the wire is not even there. At that point, I don’t see the advantage of wireless for the price, especially considering the disadvantages.

[@driver694]

I tried out a lot of mice the last few months and the DeathAdder V3 Pro got me hooked, it reminds me a lot of my Razer Mamba i used to play with for a long time. Just lighter and better

[@L3AF]

i dont like super light mouses. i have a tendency to slap my mouse when i type and then reach for the mouse and send it across my table. and yes this is a ME problem xD

[@CosmicApe]

Looks like Razer's answer to the super popular G703?

[@Stigness23]

Gimme Deathadder V3 mini and i may be interested. The mouse is still too chonky for me =[

[@Naiggy]

I see you measured 69mm for the ec2 while the zowie measurement is 65/66 at the back

[@chocobocooki3]

Bruh 2020 the Trilogy was so bad his beard turned full grey.

[@chronicmayhem]

Please review the Hyperx pulsfire haste 2 wireless!

[@fatalfox13]

Why is it bitting off Logitech superlight lol wtf

[@marc-oliviercartier5782]

i am just not into the new trend of removing built-in Grip rubbers like logitech did wit hthe logitech g pro

[@EnnTomi1]

Finally. First ergo from the big3 company. Now just need to wait g703 superlight would finally a light weight eego from Logitech

[@brethagen7776]

Why is a mouse over $100 really the question to be asking?

[@HoveKB]

Nice. I never used one, but all the improvements to reduce weight are similar to what was done with the Viper V2.

[@ee1yd]

Don't know about anyone else, but anything over 80$ is no go for a mouse for me

[@glashausAimz2]

no, its a logitech mx518 legendary xD

[@ronaldmcdonald5792]

Damn... I wash my hands a lot too, was hoping to get a white mouse but seeing that dirt alone made me disappointed

[@Tora58]

Being a south paw makes shopping for gaming mice painful :(

[@sda8jsdj9k121]

shame about the flex side flex and looseness on the sides after a few weeks - heat treating it can apparently fix it lol.

[@EnnTomi1]

There are still games out there prefer 500hz polling than even the standard 1khz. So be super careful the game you use with 4khz, it might even make it worse

[@benjotyson7183]

best mouse review and i have watched all day for knew mice

[@watsyurdeal]

When there's a Mini version I'll check it out, otherwise my tiny feminine hands can't cope

[@THE_HOLY_TRINITY]

Thank you for the review