The Viper V3 Pro is a BANGER, But...

[@theAzeo]

Bros Beard has a jawline.

[@NuageRouge123]

😂

[@steffdia7080]

It happened while he lying down, enjoying the sun and the mawn lower passed on him by mistake. Beard got cut off.

[@bigmclargehuge1170]

the sheer symmetry of your beard is kind of freaking me out

[@a51nx]

it's ambidextrous

[@MarioGoatse]

He definitely has some sort of template that he uses lol. It's always straighter than a conservative lumberjack.

[@VinnyUnion]

It's a work of art like a painting of Picasso

[@svdxa]

😂

[@middle_pickup]

It's proof. We live in a simulation. Our designers ran out of polygons around his beard.

[@marcdwonn9772]

WARNING: Razer does not honor the 2 year warranty they give. My Basilisk v3 started to break after 22 months (middle button) and after 2 weeks of jumping through hoops they outright refused to repair/replace the mouse. They claim that the shop i bought it from is "not an authorized seller" (it's CSV, a popular online-shop in Germany). I'll never buy a product from this shady company again.

[@wilkers46]

At this point, $160 for a mouse is too much IMO. Lamzu, WLmouse, Pulsar, and many more have flagship 4K mice for around $100 that are lighter with better QA. Logitech and Razer need to realize that their pricing is just out of touch at this point

[@VinnyUnion]

​@@nisem0nowe can, but we cannot justify spending that amount on something we'll get just as much elsewhere for less. Diminishing returns are a waste.

[@MaskedOG]

Way to much. Prices getting outa hand. THank you FM.

[@VinnyUnion]

@@MaskedOG anecdotal do out of hand, handjobs haven't been the same since the past few years.

[@MaskedOG]

Totaly nailed that point.@@VinnyUnion

[@VinnyUnion]

@@MaskedOG it really is a point of concern though. Nowadays it's just so superficial in terms of motion and whatnot. It's like we're living beyond the world's doom, as if the world met its demise a long time ago and we're just living in its shadows.

[@icyraikkonen2516]

159USD is why I find myself buying Chinese mice for a quarter of the price. Peripheral prices are insane from the big companies now

[@wilkers46]

I'm right there with you. Switched from a Viper Ultimate to a Lamzu Maya and have been incredibly happy with it. Cheaper, better QA, and a better size imo.

[@icyraikkonen2516]

@wilkers46 I went with the VXE R1 Pro Max and it's been better than any mouse I've bought from Razer or Logitech. I'm no mouse expert but for its price I'll take it any day over a Viper or GPro

[@DelScully]

yeah but downloading their spyware to be able to adjust the mouse almost makes it not worth it lol

[@hinchlikescake7592]

You can buy a decent gaming mouse plus a good wireless ergo mouse for normal use and still have money spare. Less money on marketing (8K), plus latest optical switches.. and more on quality materials and components. Decent scroll wheel and tactile switches that don't feel, ping and play like mush. And I don't trust Razer's QC. At $160, I'd expect the mouse to be perfect but we all know there will be issues months down the line.

[@Ternesio_Terys]

It’s cheap because u give them your info , same thing with Temu

[@mamorris23]

the feature where it will auto switch to a higher polling rate while in game, and turn it off when not, is a game changer. definitely the best thing about this mouse. this is a gpx2 killer.

[@xxfake_pandaxx1108]

I don't think it could be a gpx2 killer because as we could see in the video it didn't have anything that surpasses the Gpx2 in big numbers. But the thing about the Viper V3 is the shape. Some people will like more the GPX2 shape and others the Viper V3 shape. But in the end, it won't kill the gpx2 but we can say it is equal to It.

[@xxfake_pandaxx1108]

And the Change in polling rates between games and work or anything else is not a big thing you just need hands to do it yourself :) And as BadSeed said just avoid 4-8k polling rates.

[@MortalWombat22]

this can be done very easily through software updates to GHUB lolol. We'll see it in a few months from now.

[@wagayuuri9397]

Casually flexing the Dan Clark E3 in that panning shot

[@badseedtech]

😁 good eye

[@100SlickSilver101]

I love my v3. The only reason i got it was because of the shape and size. I feel like sensor/connectivity tech is SO good now that you shouldn't Even really worry about it when comparing mice for the general person. In this day and age, find the most that's most comfortable and skip the marketing bs.

[@SMACKiiNG]

Yea man it felt great in my hand. Wish it had a littleeee bit taller side walls but, picked it over the thorn and g pro 2 sl.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

The reality of polling rates you described is very much how I feel too. Let's stop sensationalizing it 😅

[@Expresso_Gaming]

cause is not a Pulsar or a Lamzu , right? or a EndGame gear with a cable , that ya hype "feeling better or the best " but Rting show that is even below on click latency and or Sensor DPI latency of most 4k wireless . No hate , i watch both of you and follow your content but almost feel like you guys get paid by certain Chinese brands to hype their product , but when is about big brand like Logi or Razer you guys have always somethig negative to say "marketing" , whenever Razer came with 8k ya said it was no noticeable, when ever End Game Gear came with this 8k wired , ya were drooling about. It is Mind blowing, make the credibility of “ reviews “ look bad.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@Expresso_Gaming first off I dont review anymore. I havent for over 9 months now. 2nd Ive never said 4k or 8k is better on cheaper brands. Actually Ive never bought into the marketing hype of 4k since the start. Anyone who follows me on socials knows that... I personally was hyped about end game gears OP1 wired series because the value gamers were getting with multiple low price points. and I ultimately purchased the regular 1k version with my own money. While empirical data done by sites like Rtings is important for seeing where the average is for the industry and how close brands come to their claims, its far from something that translates to a night and day benefit to gamers as some like to sensationalize. Also that is what Badseed was trying to convey in this video. My ultimate goal when speaking on polling rate is to make gamers feel comfortable with using their current gear if it still operates fine, and to not be sucked into the FOMO of this from any brand. That all said, from a hobbyist perspective I love the advancements in sensor tech and switches, its just cool to see where brands can go with it. *I edited this to add: There is no "better" or "best" in gaming mice, these days it really just comes down to subjective points and what each gamer is looking for. Luckily we are flush with options from many different brands.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@Expresso_Gaming my original reply went away? so ill reply again. First off, I havent reviewed for over 9 months, I stepped away entirely. 2nd , I never claimed cheaper brands had better 4k or 8k implementation, nor have I ever bought into the 4k/8k polling hype from any brand actually. Anyone who follows me on socials knows that.... In terms of the OP1 wired series, I and others were hyped about it because of the value it provided for gamers across multiple low price points. I personally purchased a 1k version of the mouse with my own money. Back to polling rate, while empiracal data from sites like Rtings is valuable for setting a standard and fact checking if brands are true to their claims, its far from a night and day difference as many like to sensationalize (also what Badseed was trying to convey in his video) That all said, from the perspective of a hobbyist I love the advancement in tech and its great to see what brands can do to squeeze more out of peripherals. In the end I just want gamers to feel okay with using their current gear if its operating fine and to not get pulled into the FOMO around all this created by brands. One last point, there is no "best" or "better" mouse, these days it really boils down to personal preferences and its extremely subjective. Luckily we are flush with options from several brands.

[@AssassinKID]

​@@Expresso_Gaming The price probably plays a huge part on their perspective. At $159 US without internal battery component, this particular mouse and Razer mice in general better get EVERYTHING right, when mice at 1/4 -> 1/2 their price has similar specs.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@Expresso_Gaming it's not about the price or the brands. It's a universal statement for high polling rate and how people hype it as some night and day difference, it's not. I don't care what brand people buy. Also I haven't been in the review scene for over 9 months ...

[@palfotta]

Finally a youtube channel who actually care about price and value... Thank you. This looks a great mice, but my Pulsar Xlitev3 is 100$ man... There is no way this worth the 60% extra.

[@oscarmuhammad4072]

Side note...the beard is on point....I cut my hair and others and I am contemplating barberschool, so I tend to notice good grooming....content is of course outstanding....keep up the good work and grooming...

[@Str8ABH]

This channel has basically become the gold standard for hardware reviews. Thanks for your continuous high level content man.

[@macleod1592]

I just bought a white Viper and so far am really enjoying it. The DAV3 is always gonna be my favorite shape but I am really enjoying playing with this thing.

[@ZachDidDat]

Interested to see a full review on the U2!

[@Proffyy]

Would love to see reviewers checking the flatness of the base of mice since i have noticed a lot have a banana base which ruins how the skates glide and in some cases like zowie C series mice like the FK most of the bottom skate does not make contact with the pad causing the top skate to be flat and grippy vs a loose feeling bottom skate which ruins the overall glide.

[@MaZEEZaM]

I really wish all the brands copied the Logitech G502 X's infinity scrollwheel which allows you at a click of a small button to switch the scrollwheel from stepped which they all do, to infinite scroll which is basically free spinning the scrollwheel. I only use the stepped scroll while gaming whereas I frequently use the infinite scroll while surfing the web and its ergonomically far nicer using the smooth scroll while using office programs such as MS Word and PDF's or when reading ebooks. Curently I'm switching to my 40g Ninjutso Sora V2 only for gaming and back to my Logitech for everything else. I do also wish light gaming mice had a sniper button though smaller version that the G502 X has as it makes a really convenient Discord voice chat button i can use while I'm actively shooting for faster calls without disrupting my gameplay.

[@ascenphis]

In the Razer Viper V2 review you say something like "I'm convinced no mice should be this expensive, they really only sell it because we keep buying it". Thoughts on that on tthe Viper V3?

[@NecrosVideos]

Amazing watching how far you've come! The quality of your videos is insane

[@SMACKiiNG]

Never used grips before on a mouse... ngl flipping love em on this viper, they feel great

[@jarofjuice]

I have the Viper Ultimate and the Basilisk Ultimate and I keep switching between the two. Absolutely love how light the Viper is, but those side buttons drive me nuts. The Basilisk feels like a tank but it is more comfortable and I do not need to look for the side buttons. That extra height on the Viper V3 Pro and the protruding side buttons are making me consider getting it!

[@jarofjuice]

Update: Bought the Viper 3 Pro... absolutely mighty and zero regrets. Thank you for your service, Basilisk Ultimate and Viper Ultimate, but you both have been dethroned.

[@SB-mr2nk]

you have the best videos. highly information dense. thanks

[@Michael-pg7rv]

4K and 8K is actually such a marketing ploy.

[@saiverx]

Exactly. Reduced battery life for half a mil faster response. It’s not noticeable

[@Noah765]

No, it's just technological progress.

[@zuckoVAL]

​@@saiverx It is when tracking. Also Noah is right. It's technological progress.

[@azenyr]

The 8K polling not only wrecks battery life but it also substantially impacts your system CPU performance and can easily overwhelm weaker CPUs to the point that you can actually be throwing away a lot of FPS from you game just to get an extra 0.1ms less of latency. It's completely insane and I would love for this trend to stop already. 1k is great, 2k at most. Above 2k you are just wasting your system resources. If this doesn't stop we will see 30K polling rates soon that will literally HALVE your in-game fps for an extra 0.0001ms less of mouse latency. I have a DAV3 Pro and I still use the stock 1k dongle. Zero regrets. I tried a razer 4K dongle from a friend once and couldn't for the life of me tell absolutely any difference, with both laptops side by side with both mice connected. And Razer now also has 4k polling keyboards... why??? Your system WILL DIE with an 8k mouse + 8K keyboard.

[@hungv-rg9kq]

Because you are not a Pro Player in FPS game.

[@azenyr]

@hungv-rg9kq not even pro players notice the difference between 4k and 8k lol. Its humanely impossible. Don't fall for the marketing bs. I am not an pro player but I play VERY competitively Apex Legends for years and I can say that I notice the difference between 1k and 2k, but above that, cant tell any difference at all. Its a gimmick

[@hungv-rg9kq]

@@azenyr 8k polling rate use for tracking moving objects very accurately

[@azenyr]

@hungv-rg9kq you can track moving objects very accurately with 2k too. Above that is a gimmick. 2k I agree its better. Go watch optimum he tested the latency between 1k 2 4 and 8k. 1 to 2 is half, and many milliseconds. Above that is just less 1 or 2 ms and not noticeable by humans. Its impossible to notice a 1ms difference

[@hungv-rg9kq]

@@azenyr I am Coach and had more than 13k hours ingame in PUBG Esport. I still notice differences between 4k and 8k polling rate in razer dongle with my Viper V2 Pro when I fight in matches. I think 4k is the best option IMO, because 8k is great but it wil stutter your ingame.

[@stimmymcgotems408]

Not sure why you’re comparing this to the Hyperspeed so much and not the V2. It’s causing confusion because it’s not a successor to the Hyperspeed, but to the V2 Pro. The Hyperspeed doesn’t exist in this discussion. Completely different product category homie.

[@casull2041]

he did compare it to the v2 tho, and i mean if you're aware of the hyperspeed version you should already know about the shape changes anyways (it became a gpx)

[@itsjaesura]

Because both the Hyperspeed and V3 Pro have the exact same shape. One is substantially more expensive than the other for 12 grams and a switch change. The V2 Pro and V3 Pro have different shapes.That alone makes them different enough to consider one over the other, even if it's older. I don't see the V3 Pro a successor even if it's labeled as one because of the shape change into a rounder mouse.

[@Arctis326]

Because they have the same shape and tech? You’re the one who’s lost homie

[@kankio9034]

They're literally the same shape homie

[@pwd1134]

"completely different product category" I'd love some of what you're smoking.

[@D0WnL0DeR]

YOU ARE A BANGER! SIR

[@Moodyfn]

u kinda look the glorious gaming logo if he were bald

[@sagargupta9014]

you should click left and right mouse button right after each other to simulate aim down sight and shooting then you can see how fast you click because they are different fingers thats when polling rates matter most

[@katzicael]

1st, Woof - looking good sir. 2nd, it not working on the wireless charging/hyperpolling dock is criminal.

[@Hamsterbby]

Really good video and long time fan but I wished the conversation about polling rates were more around the sensor itself. I usually like 2k-4k polling rates due to consistency and halfed delay from 1k polling and less about the input delay of clicks. But at the same time I usually never see click latency testing so that's pretty cool!

[@Moonmanner]

my favourite tech youtuber with optimum! love from germany

[@badseedtech]

Yo thanks so much!

[@skizzarz]

2:11 the old logitech g500 had the sensor up there too, made for really intuitive flick aiming. Most gamers have muscle memory for centered sensors, would take a few hundred hours dedicated to a forward sensor to start getting a proper feel for it. There's a happy medium between centered and forward for both general feel and flicks.

[@doubleoog8181]

I just got a normal one, and I like it a lot. I bought the Viper 2 Pro at a total price, and while it was good, It never became my go-to mouse. Pulsars have been my go-to mice for the last year, and a Lamzu Thorn and Atlantis Mini in between. $150 or more for a mouse is ridiculous, though.

[@beardedgamer5965]

What are my options for a superlight 2 but with more side buttons? Thank you for all your great content and honest in depth reviews!

[@EnzAlbo11]

Logitech g903

[@huibinator4811]

Only 30 seconds in and I find this video so good. You put your videos really well together. Its quick, straight to the point, and all the good stuff

[@svdxa]

it's all good,but how are things with the mouse wheel,it's getting better or not?

[@TopazBeast]

I absolutely love this mouse, have had it for a few weeks now and it’s easily the best mouse I’ve ever had. I’m a very casual gamer, I play a lot of games but don’t play anything too competitively. The only reason I bought the mouse was because I got a pretty nice bonus from work and was long over due for a new mouse. It’s something that I would recommend for somebody to get if they have some money to burn, but if you’re on a budget, or maybe just getting into pc gaming, it’s probably not worth it. At least wait for a sale.

[@darkinertia2]

id like to see testing on the sensor placement, ill admit i fell for the marketing but it might just be that i switched to the orochi which was a smaller mouse to begin with

[@ELCrisler]

I am a big fan of the replacable bvattery option for wireless mice. While you add some weight I am not a competative FPS gamer so the difference tome has no impact. Right now I am using a Razer Basilisk X Hyperspeed (love the hand fit). I get about 75 days on a cheap AA battery with heavy daily use. I buy my batteries in 12 packs and have a 3D printered batter dispenser on my desk. When I get a battery warning I ususally still have more than enough battery to finish my play session, pop in the new battery and off to gaming. This solution means no charging cable hanging around the desk, just one more thing removed. I tried the various Qi solutions and those work good but they are hit and miss as you need to get the mouse on the charger just right. Also they add another piece of clutter to the desktop.

[@redlionqc7276]

The cool thing about razer is you get 15% off for students so it’s like 126usd 170cad and that’s a great price

[@ridethasno]

I love this mouse paired with my black widow v4 pro keyboard, it’s the perfect combo. 👌

[@RayCrush2008]

Choosing it over the GPX 2 as well?

[@p.eriickk]

Nobody is talking about the pulsar xlite v3, anybody got a review on it?

[@takutolovex]

How does this compare to the DA V3 Hyperspeed?

[@jeffalv6176]

hello. love your videos very detailed and to the point. also, do you know if Audeze maxwell fixed their PC EQ software ? i remember 2 or 3 videos of yours you talked about this but its been months now. i just wonder.... about to get them in 2 weeks

[@Tomatobear8]

Can you do a viedeo about the new wooting jade switches 🙏

[@viice_]

Is Synaps still mandatory to run in the background, or can i configure the mouse once, save the profile onboard and then uninstall Synaps again? I hate software that runs in the background 24/7, when it doesn't really need to. That's why i liked the G pro superlight so far, because their app is portable. No need to install anything.

[@Yu7Zi]

You intending to do a Sony Pulse Elite review? Would love to see your thoughts on it.

[@StrayGodHarvey]

8:59 nice "Artisans"

[@Jipzorowns]

Finally a somewhat larger mouse! As a person with rather large hands, I dont like the small mouse trend. This mouse makes me happy!

[@mmurfeyy]

Should say "higher is better" at 7:18.

[@jacobs687]

whats that skull he has in the intro? i think he uses the same thing on a keycap? just curious

[@pimp.avogadro]

Polling rate from 1k to 4k is completely detectable, but only in experienced users. This variable is also exacerbated using less latent encompassing computer systems where a cumulative latency response is lower overall vs a higher one. A good comparison would be a trained listener vs an average listener in the audiophile community. Most people cannot perceive subtle differences and micro nuances because they are not trained or experienced. 8k is still not worth the system demand or money.

[@3ildcard]

Bro is trying to convince someone who has tried the most expensive stuff on the market in terms of gear that he cannot "feel" something. Calling yourself "experienced" instead of delusional and placebo driven is wild. Get a grip ffs.

[@pimp.avogadro]

@@3ildcard Who said what now?

[@ZyadShadi]

Do you recommend it over finalmouse ?

[@sephondranzer]

Looking forward to the keyboard video. I recently went back to a mechanical keyboard. The Wooting 60HE is an amazing piece of engineering, but Wootility makes GHub look like Jessica Alba… After having to reset that many times I’ll take a mechanical anytime.

[@Your_Paramour]

Ghub is absolute garbage. It's the only piece of software i've ever used that has uninstalled itself multiple times.

[@HOLY_FRIJOLES]

You’re doing something wrong. I literally never have to reset anything. It just works.

[@sephondranzer]

@@HOLY_FRIJOLES There’s not very many ways to use it: you go to the site and your profile is there or not.

[@HOLY_FRIJOLES]

@@sephondranzer every time I turn my computer on it’s on my preferred profile. The only time it’s on default is if there is a power outage.

[@RealCrotex]

I HATE how easy it is to click the scroll wheel. It is easily my least favorite thing. In most games, middle mouse button in my ping (because it is the default and also just makes sense), but whenever I'm using the mouse scroll wheel, it leads me to accidentally pinging a lot which is really annoying.

[@nightshiift6664]

Hey every razer viper v3 review missed the chance the charge information like for instance does it use the v2 charge magnetic dock?

[@codexnecrogeddon]

Very bummed they moved the sensor back. I love forward sensors, they feel very different for flicking. Guess I'll just stick to my CM MM712 and its old tech. Really wish pwnage would release more mice with the movable sensor.

[@Zath88]

So they made the viper a deathadder but without an ergo shape?

[@soyboi4736]

I am looking at this mouse and I can only get the ultralight version, is there much of a difference in specs or anything, because I only see KZbinrs use the basic version

[@Horstor]

Higher polling rates are not about latency (even though marketing wants to convince us of that) but about fluidity. Especially on high refresh rate monitors and higher DPI, you can absolutely see (and i guess therefor feel) 4k and 8k. But 8k on my V2 Pro sucks, wouldnt recommend. I do enjoy your reviews and your glorious beard though ♥

[@sandros94]

Even more when using acceleration programs like RawAccel. Higher polling rate + motion sync + high dpi (lowered later down the chain) will make sure no matter how fast or slow the wipe is, it will always be pixel perfect (not taking into account human error)

[@mielv4491]

really sad they took away the right side hotkeys cant find any other decent upgrade to my v2

[@melmagallon6233]

Honestly, this should have been a different line altgether. The profile and not fingertipping the mouse as easily makes this really different

[@thepanda145]

For someone with the same handsize and claw, Deathadder V2 Pro or Viper V3 Pro and why? (Assuming there are no malfunctions or issues)

[@michaelgriffin3230]

Ive owned all the new ones and went back to deathadder V3. But to me the new deathadder isnt a death adder. So i'll try this one out.

[@wheelz79]

When will we see the Pulsar xlite v3 review BadSeed? :)

[@dereklee1027]

I have a big gripe about the change in shape... I was a huge fan of viper series since viper ultimate but I just think the v3 pro is NOT a viper. The biggest selling point of vipers to me is the design was so performance focus, it provides great speed and control at the same time with claw grip, while comfort is not the biggest selling point (but also maintain a high level which many couldn't). The new design just looks like another mouse, to have better comfort with palm grip, but less percision, more intrusive to the palm center. I think the new design kills viper series, and I just don't understand why they don't just launch a new series if they are making a quite essential change to the series, while the taller, not flat profile is everything but a viper, and the more comfort focus design is more lean to the deathadder series instead of the viper series imo.

[@dereklee1027]

honestly quite disappointed about the v3 pro because I though the ultimate has a durability issue with the rubber grip(I think it 's good rubber though, but I just don't like rubber grip because they are gonna become sticky no matter how) and just not harcore enough, but while the v2 being more harcore, it comes with some new issues(the mouse button are too clicky and the side button is not as good as the ultimate, overall instrusive and distracting), I was hoping the v3 pro would be the mouse that MURDER it all because the shape is just so good, but maybe I have to find something else in the future.

[@DelScully]

now how do I choose between this and Deathadder V2 PRO.... I main a basilisk v3 pro but want a light mouse for pure fps shooters. Also another thing, I use the razer mousedock that has the dongle built in so I can use 8k polling on my basilisk but would I be able to also connect another razer mouse to that for the polling? I know I wont be able to charge with it but just for pure 8k polling so I dont need to have another dongle/cable

[@DoughnutDragon]

i just wish theyd put the side buttons on both sides so i can use it

[@xSabinx1]

Will you please review tje upcoming roccat, i mean tirtle beach pure air? I love that shape and kone pro air so superlight version is exciting to me

[@PychStudios]

I think the issue with 8K polling is that most software (games) don't support it. That's why they all feel the same. You're literally playing 1k on a 8k mouse.

[@3ildcard]

It sounds pretty cool as this one does seem to solve many of the issues i had with the OG Viper such as flatness and flares but just checked locally, 200€ on the dot is just a no-no in todays market. Loved the polling rate part, the placebo driven Andy's are coming for you so sleep with your eyes open. Their most common argument is "your setup bad" so lets see what they'll come with at you who have tried everything premium.

[@CYNTrxpz]

so is the dongle come with viper v3 pro and if so how much polling

[@G055V]

How does the main clicks feel compared to V2? Heavier or lighter?

[@F33NIXcs]

lighter

[@gtifury310]

I'll never give up my G502 Lightspeed with Powerplay mat!

[@HOLY_FRIJOLES]

I love the powerplay mat. I have like 12 mice and I get sick of charging them. All my Logitech ones I just plop on the mat when I leave the room. It’s awesome

[@kenjifuse8599]

Love the video as usual. I see you rocking them Dan Clark E3’s! Very nice

[@rometherevenant8749]

Guess going to have to wait for that Viper Mini wireless just a bit longer. I don't want to cop the new batch of the Signature to drop. I just want a reasonably priced viper mini wireless without the holes man.

[@Skazzy3YT]

The Viper mini wireless is dead. Now you have to get the cobra or nothing

[@mogran5407]

It's such a shame RAZER is moving towards the GPX shell shape with the Viper series. If they were to end up the same shape, why buy a viper in the first place? I really wish they would preserve the old v2 shell in the future for individuals who still enjoy the aggressive curves within the past viper series....

[@LateBandwagon]

No point for brand loyalty just buy what suits you. Big fan of Wlm mouse but if they release mid I don’t care. But their fabulous beast collab is 🤤

[@3ildcard]

VV2 is still in production. From marketing perspective, it does make sense for them to go more "mainstream" since Deathadder was hump-less and weird, og viper was too flat with horrible flares.

[@mogran5407]

@Divinity_vA Of course, I know VV2 is still in production. I'm just talking about its extinction in the long run and the disappointment as an individual who has loved those horrible flares and flatness

[@onepunchdave3216]

just ordered one of these, currently using the OP1 8k and while its really good with the best buttons ive ever used, its just too damn small, shame.

[@machinchouette5233]

The op1 8k has better latency even with the same polling rate, weighs even less at 50,5g, and only cost 84,99 on Amazon🤩🤩

[@dvnwllms]

I'm pretty sure I spy a pair of Dan Clark E3's in one of the b roll shots. I miss the headphone reviews!

[@BNHC0]

the v2's shape is simply better, doesnt seem like a worthwhile replacement

[@rmw9365]

Bro got the g502 beard

[@HoveKB]

That NZ Caps NMLB toy is bonkers! I love it lol Also, not surprising that Razor is killing the mouse game.

[@emurray942]

Will we be seeing a 2024 Mode SixtyFive review soon? 😅

[@LevvyKlister]

I don't know how I feel about razer, I used to be a fan of razer but lately I've been experiencing issues with mousewheel even some people who bought razer mice after my suggestion had some issues, I don't know maybe I'm just biased by this experiences, but I went on a shopping spree and got gpx2 last year and the ULX tiger, and they are both great in their on way. Plus I will pick up an EGG op18k probably cause I read good things about it and I want to go back to something wired. I agree with your statement about polling I'm still using all the mice at 1k polling cause when you go wireless battery life is the most important factor to me. That fuck you enter keycap at the end is a nice touch ahahah

[@mrjamesinblogington]

5:50 This is why I always approach Razer and other peripheral manufacturers that chase numbers with caution. It always brings into question whether they have their R&D priorities in order, and it makes me feel uneasy as to whether they cut corners with reliability in order to achieve those numbers. At some point, the law of diminishing returns applies.

[@Dsaubt]

Bought a Viper V2 Pro one year ago to the date and the scroll wheel is malfunctioning. I also had to reach out to Razer a month ago to replace the wireless dongle, which would no longer connect to the mouse. Pretty bad QC on a $150 mouse so I will not be purchasing the V3 and will look for a different option.

[@vindrytter]

I love Razer's marketing. "Programmable Mouse/DPI Button (preferred by Zekken)" I assume Mr. Zekken assigned a weapon reload key "R" to the DPI button, so he flips the mouse every time to reload? Nonsense.

[@KsCreamPies]

Even though it got a lot of hate, I bought the razer cobra pro and I like it so far

[@MorTphyr]

Lamzu thorn(black) vs v3 pro?

[@haithus]

Do the V3 skates fit on the pro?

[@Taipan_3175]

No they don't.

[@ThomasMarxJKD]

Burst air 2 is comming at 47 grams... I ordered it for 90 bucks, instead of 179 euro of this one in Germany.

[@Jinsh1911]

I hope it doesn't creak like Deathadder V3 Pro after a few months.

[@lltalionll]

Razer just need to create something similar to the Omron optical switches (used by ninjutso/sprime) for their mice and it will be near perfect.

[@VanSoLow]

Mousepad please??

[@sugarhiIl]

Is this good for claw

[@estebanjosepacifico8753]

still very happy with my 2020 viper ultimate

[@whoshotya117]

Reason why the viper was better than Logitech was because it was flatter! They blew it.

[@zlibz4582]

razer should include a pair of extra mouseskates in every flagship mouse and even budget mouse

[@NupoNupsNupsie]

On my copy the left and right buttons feels kinda weird- it’s like heavy - mushy and crisp at the same time. Anyone with that problem ?