The Deprogram Episode 151 - Long Form Existential Dread (Ft. Prolekult)

[@Prolekult]

Thanks for having us on comrades! Was a blast 😊

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

YO PROLEKULT U BRIISH MATE HUH FUCK YEAH

[@eirich1606]

the second acceptable british person has been found before it was only corbyn

[@Josephryanbanks]

It was awesome listening to you guys. @Prolekult your content is particularly impressive and very informative and critical. Thank you for your work.

[@ApolloBlatenszky]

Thank you for your work

[@ricopena2053]

I’ll give your videos a watch. They sound incredible

[@Nixdigo]

He's alive!!!!! We missed you Hakim

[@YaBoiHakim]

Missed you too!

[@valorieya]

he has a doctorate in living

[@AmarBianchi-yi5hu]

“Nature doesn’t need humanity, nature will always win. It is we who need nature” -Mata Amritanandamayi

[@iraviya]

"The planet is fine. The _people_ are fucked." --Carlin

[@thepeacefulenemy4026]

They did such a good job depicting capitalism as a conscious, malevolent entity. The score was absolutely superb at capturing the horror we should all feel every day.

[@Wolfiemlm]

The British Hunter bit reminded me of lawns, like, lawns were a status symbol as in "look at the land I can afford to waste, I am rich"

[@JalalAsif-ep9ni]

I saw the one on Fascism a few weeks back and it was absolutely one of the best coverages on the class element of Fascism I've seen on YT. Absolutely recommend it!

[@Nyota7766]

Oh, prolekult is on the show, neat. Also, subtitles for this video? Even more neat.

[@mithocondriaaa9356]

i wuoldnt have understood the action figure joke without them

[@Josephryanbanks]

Thanks guys for doing this podcast, really appreciate seeing Prolekult on and hearing you guys discuss so much about the climate collapse we are facing as a species. His documentary about fascism is one of the best on the internet as far as I’m concerned. Great work guys.

[@furiouscartman5338]

The whole gang together finally

[@TheBurdenOfHope]

The title of this episode is brilliant 😂 if you don’t laugh you’ll cry. Almost certainly.

[@comrademax57]

oh man Ive had some of their films in the watchlist for a good while I really need to start watching them

[@ricopena2053]

Hakim!!! We have all three on, let’s go!!!!

[@NKVD.Officer]

subtitles W?

[@Wolfiemlm]

I heard that if ocean temperatures rise, that could stop the gulf stream, which would be the beginning of making the oceans stagnant. Like, that's one of the worst extinction level event

[@vazeyo]

I don't think that Prolekult was on The Deprogram before so thanks for inviting them! This was a great episode and I was sad that it was over, after it was over... Maybe you will do another together in the future? :D

[@christianrose7185]

i REALLY love the subtitles

[@ZS-rw4qq]

17:50 There's big talk about this in Serbia now as they plan to open a lithium mine

[@aprofondir]

Kinda disappointed Yugopnik hasn't brought it up once

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

​@@aprofondir It's because he is Albanian! Checkmate! 😂

[@billybangerstv4829]

I do love the classic background which for certain has been a hallmark graphic of the channel but this format with subtitles is really great too!!

[@CriticoolHit]

lol pure hopium on that line about it not being an extinction level event. It is. And we're living it.

[@alfredandersson875]

Fascists envisioning left 4 dead like scenarios with fenced off western countries and abused and exploited emigrants desperate to get aid, clawing at the gates drooling rn at our current future

[@theunknowncorps22]

And yet they'll be those who would do rather do tankie bashing rather then engage with the real problems of overthrowing capitalism and replacing it with the only socialism that has ever worked instead favouring their niche anarchism or 'democratic socialism' (reformist capitalism).

[@sameerdodger]

Yo I just thought, you guys should get CCK Philosophy on as a guest if you can!

[@dandyddz]

Thanks for subtitles. Did you add them by a hand or used some automatic software? Of latter, what exactly?

[@SecondThought]

The platform we’ve started using (Riverside) has options to bake in subtitles on export

[@sentientnatalie]

@@SecondThought It's brilliant! Thanks, Deprogram comrades!

[@travisbrinson848]

Hard hitting episode for sure, well done everyone.

[@jeromydoerksen2603]

I'll be listening to this audio style in my car. Just wanted to pop in and drop a like and a comment. Keep it righteous

[@Todoolidoo]

As someone who’s passionate about finding solutions for the climate catastrophe,I have been making these long, strenuous, ugly videos where I hypothesize about ways we could tackle the worst of it. I would appreciate your feedback and I am going to try and reach out to James since we are in the same accursed area.

[@squirrel_slapper]

FINALLY, YES. LITERALLY MY MAIN HOPE FOR A GUEST

[@suzymac27]

At 77years on Earth Saw All this happening 😮😢And no one Cared😮😢Thank YOUALL FOR FACTSTRUTHS 😅😊I WAS CORRECT 😮😢

[@schadowizationproductions6205]

All the while I'm wondering: Is James' mic quality just leftist mic quality threatening to anger any Parenti within reach or is it to add to his vibe??

[@mithocondriaaa9356]

i'm already subscribed to prolekult, but forgot it existed so im going to check it out again. who knows how much stuff came out since i last watched them. i know im a bad person but i like binge watching stuff, maybe while im doing something else. pls dont do like me, take care of your attention span.

[@Sankara22]

the subtitles are a great addition

[@matheusrodrigues8473]

Spent literally a weekend watching his series. Damn, it's creepy and angering. But damn, how I learned.

[@quasimandias]

Great stuff, mirrors my own work to some degree. I think it’s important to consider, however, an important detail that’s not immediately apparent from our unfortunate perspective, and one that leftists should take seriously. It isn’t about whether private or collective ownership is more desirable- these are more akin than not. For most of human history and in all sustainable cultures the commons was un-owned.

[@CIndy_The_Skull]

7:03 that was a good question though. Is the shot actually tetnus yes or no? I got one for the first time ever recently after a really old nail and banter-generated paranoia about it. now i'm kind of scared i'm gonna be rabid or something.

[@thematronsmilitia]

Wait a minute... I've gotten soil in an open wound like weekly for my entire life. I guess I've only gone about 11 years between tetanus shots

[@alfredandersson875]

It really depends a lot on circumstance, your previous and personal immunity I would say (as a non medical expert so don’t take this for fact). My dad has always had a really strong immune system throughout his life and I’ve inherited this from him. My mom often experience health issues meanwhile my dad and I get down and dirty with work and projects but only suffer common sickness like twice every decade or so. You should never take your health for granted but some people will always be blessed, whether by circumstance, ”luck”, or genetics.

[@valorieya]

hakims back fuck yeah

[@itoren]

Does anyone know how they did the subtitles for this episode?

[@Atoll-ok1zm]

My state is one of the most extensively human-changed areas on earth. Just one massive farm field. Before this year, the previous several were a pretty severe drought. To the point wells were being dug deeper, creeks were disappearing, etc. I worry my home in the midwest will become a desert. All our ground is open fields, almost nobody grows cover crops so the wind has been carrying away top soil for decades. There's no irrigation equipment because we have never needed it. Our waterways are already dead thanks to unregulated runoff. What happens in the next bad drought? What happens when we see a new dustbowl? What happens when the breadbasket disappears? What happens when america can't get its grain, eggs, meat, what then? Do we dial up the ecofascist rhetoric? Somehow increase foreign extraction? Does the privileged american mind just implode?

[@dl-zf9dj]

😅😅😅😅😅😅 oh ok wow haha ❤

[@whatabouttheearth]

I watched 'For Land' with VR glasses and good ear bud headphones and swore it was gonna make me have a seizure 😂 it was fairly intense. But I disagree that human population overshoot isn't a concern. You are not understanding the issue if you think its about humans enduring increased temperatures. Let me throw out some hypotheticals There could very well be extreme phenological mismatch eviscerating trophic cascades and therefore creating feedback loops that keep doing the same, that is what I am worried about when it comes to worse case scenarios. Have you ever thought about the possibility of more and more humans not being able to hunt, fish or grow food because the rest of the biosphere had increasingly difficult ability to hunt and fish because the primary producers were significantly harmed? Not to mention that industrial nitrogen fixation levels are way more than natural nitrogen fixation, meaning that the human population is held up beyond what is naturally capable, and if there is a systems collapse that can no longer sustain that industrial nitrogen fixation (that only bacteria do naturally) it will be MASS human die offs. And hypothetically, all it would take is knocking the whales extinct to decrease the phytoplankton, and they're already being effected by warmth in many ways, hence coral bleaching. And since phytoplankton contribute to over 50% of the oxygen you breath you should be a little concerned about those little creatures. Plus phytoplankton are the basis of Marine trophic relations because they have photosynthesizing cyanobacteria (like land plants that hold their symbiotic cyanobacteria cousins called chloroplasts are the foundation of terrestrial trophic relations), so their upwelling brings vast global migrations to feed. In these migrations nutrients are cycled through a variety of things like whale feces (from eating the phytoplankton) which causes growth of phytoplankton. Decrease of phytoplankton means decrease of whales, decrease of whales means decrease of phytoplankton. 🤷 And we're already seeing a decline in certain whale species, a negative effect on phytoplankton, a phenological shift in terrestrial plants, an alteration of the Gulf Stream and seemingly a weakening of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation that creates lower southernly Atlantic ocean circulation to the Antarctic as related to the easterly Gulf Stream movement. -Increased warming leads to, -Increased melting leads to, -Decreased downwelling leads to, -Decreased southward Atlantic pump leads to, -Decreased upwelling leads to, -Decreased vertical migration of phytoplankton, -Decrease food for sea life leads to, -Decreased sea life leads to, -Decreased oceanic nutrients leads to, -Decreased phytoplankton leads to, -Decrease food for sea life leads to, -Decreased sea life leads to, --Decreased food for coastal animals that eat that sea life leads to, --Decreased coastal animals leads to, --Decreased food for inland animals that eat the coastal animals. And keep in mind that those primary producers that are the foundation of trophic relations, plants and phytoplankton, are the only ones that do oxygenic photosynthesis. Not saying it would happen, but all you would need is for phytoplankton to go extinct to loose over 50% of atmospheric oxygen (O2) that we and other animals depend on and all terrestrial animals would go extinct. Think about what an over 50% drop in oxygen would do. If cyanobacteria (and their symbiotic cyanobacteria cousins, chloroplasts) go extinct that's a wrap, because they're the only things on the planet that do oxygenic photosynthesis. And on a light note. Fun fact is that strangely, the life of the majority of the biosphere hangs in the hands of microbes, those cyanobacteria, that once repeatedly shit themselves (pretty much literally) into multiple near extinction events, and that is how our atmosphere was oxygenated in the first place, plants and animals could not of existed without them developing oxygen photosynthesis first 😂 we live in a world of bacteria shit (O2).

[@mithocondriaaa9356]

the planet is just a rock with a super thin layer of life. if we die, the planet is fine, only the living beings should worry. yikes

[@whatabouttheearth]

Well shit, this is going to be very long. If you're defining "Earth" as geosphere, the geology stuff, no, that Hulk will be fine. What is Earth? EARTH: ----ATMOSPHERE (Air-Atmospheric Science) ----HYDROSPHERE (Water-Oceanography/Limnology) ----GEOSPHERE (Geology) ----BIOSPHERE (Life-biology/ecology) Every atom of every being in the biosphere, including you, goes through constant cell death and isotopic turnover (except for your teeth after about 8 years old). The atoms in every being are in a constant state of recycling. And most have been on Earth since near beginning. The known age of stable atoms is older than the known age of the universe. The atoms that are your physical body right now, and the ones that were your body in the past, were, before they were part of you, being recycled as part of the hydrosphere, geosphere, atmosphere and other beings of the biosphere. What you physically are right now and have been in the past LITERALLY has been the cloud, the rain drop, the mountain, the soil, the river, the ocean, the air, the desert, the tree, the flower, certainly the cow, and the bird, and the fish, probably the dinosaur, the synapsid, the phytoplankton. That atoms that are Earth have been recycled through Earth, for 4.5 billion years. Think this through...Atmospheric CH4 breaks down into H2O and CO2. That H2O collects in a cloud, and then rains down on the mountain, then causes the mountains minerals to weather into the soils by the river, where it is taken up by the farmers lettuce that also took up the CO2, that farmers lettuce is partially eaten by the rabbit, who is eaten by the wolf, that dies and is eaten by decomposers and detritivores, who are eaten by the worm, who is eaten by the chicken, who is killed by the farmer, and shipped by the trucker, and ends up at the restaurant that you went to on Monday when you ordered the farmers chicken and salad. Now that carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen is physically you. It part of your body. The wine, the bread. YOU ARE LITERALLY EARTH!

[@whatabouttheearth]

Well shit, this is going to be very long. If you're defining "Earth" as geosphere, the geology stuff, no, that Hulk will be fine. What is Earth? EARTH: ----ATMOSPHERE (Air-Atmospheric Science) ----HYDROSPHERE (Water-Oceanography/Limnology) ----GEOSPHERE (Geology) ----BIOSPHERE (Life-biology/ecology) Every atom of every being in the biosphere, including you, goes through constant cell death and isotopic turnover (except for your teeth after about 8 years old). The atoms in every being are in a constant state of recycling. And most have been on Earth since near beginning. The known age of stable atoms is older than the known age of the universe. The atoms that are your physical body right now, and the ones that were your body in the past, were, before they were part of you, being recycled as part of the hydrosphere, geosphere, atmosphere and other beings of the biosphere. What you physically are right now and have been in the past LITERALLY has been the cloud, the rain drop, the mountain, the soil, the river, the ocean, the air, the desert, the tree, the flower, certainly the cow, and the bird, and the fish, probably the dinosaur, the synapsid, the phytoplankton. That atoms that are Earth have been recycled through Earth, for 4.5 billion years. Think this through...Atmospheric CH4 breaks down into H2O and CO2. That H2O collects in a cloud, and then rains down on the mountain, then causes the mountains minerals to weather into the soils by the river, where it is taken up by the farmers lettuce that also took up the CO2, that farmers lettuce is partially eaten by the rabbit, who is eaten by the wolf, that dies and is eaten by decomposers and detritivores, who are eaten by the worm, who is eaten by the chicken, who is killed by the farmer, and shipped by the trucker, and ends up at the restaurant that you went to on Monday when you ordered the farmers chicken and salad. Now that carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen is physically you. It part of your body. The wine, the bread. YOU ARE LITERALLY EARTH!

[@NaymitMayne]

Does anyone know why he covers his beautiful face?

[@yassir._.723]

privacy reasons

[@NaymitMayne]

@@yassir._.723 just regular privacy or because he speaks the truth. Is it because of the country he is in?

[@sameerdodger]

even if he doesn't have a 'legit reason', balaclavas are just cool

[@NaymitMayne]

@@sameerdodger yeah I agree he looks cool with or without it. But I was just concerned about him because in other countries they take dissent seriously and even now in America they are doxing anti Zionists and ruining their lives because American politicians and government work for Israel

[@tomgu2285]

​@@NaymitMayne well most serbs are not leftwinging lol. So maybe???

[@peoplerepellent299]

last

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

Wrooong

[@whatabouttheearth]

The last shall be first

[@whatabouttheearth]

The last shall be first

[@purgetrapscorp]

first

[@hoboroadie4623]

Ayup.

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

WROOOONG

[@whatabouttheearth]

The first shall be last

[@whatabouttheearth]

The first shall be last

[@alvaroLguevara]

Mask? Alone in a room?

[@kerycktotebag8164]

on camera

[@alvaroLguevara]

@@kerycktotebag8164 But why?

[@whatabouttheearth]

In case you haven't noticed, three out of four of them are protecting their identities

[@whatabouttheearth]

In case you haven't noticed, three out of four of them are protecting their identities

[@mattyballard5205]

This guest no joke word for word sounds exactly like the average UK politician. As we know UK politicians are the most tustworthy and honest politicians and never push talking points and narratives of the "CURRENT THING"

[@KP-uc1ez]

You'll have to further elaborate if you want people to give a shit

[@angrymaxandtinyfriends3691]

He’s way more informed and articulate than any politician in the UK

[@squirrel_slapper]

JohntheDuncan is the next one you have to get on, you must

[@yassir._.723]

that would be awesome

[@EnverHalilHoxha1917]

FRICKKK YEAAAAA

[@KP-uc1ez]

Correct line