The Difference Between 2/2 and 4/4 Time Signatures - Music Theory

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[@jinchoung]

something you said in passing helped me more than your actual explanation... that the beats aren't all equal emphasis. so it's ONE two three four ONE two... vs. ONE two ONE two... if that's the case, then I now understand the difference in rhythm.

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Brilliant

[@facl115]

Thanks...YOU helped me..!!

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[@dougmurray907]

Love your emphasis on “feel”. As a blues guy, this really speaks to me.

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[@jimgore1278]

Great explanation. I wish someone had been around who explained things this clearly back when I finally realised the importance of understanding what I was playing. I played in a full-time rock band back in the '70s that did cover tunes. We only played one original tune and, all being self-taught and unable to read/write music, just played what felt natural to us. We had no idea there was anything different about it until the first time we played it on-stage in a bar and it cleared the dance-floor. At the end of the set we took a guitar back to the dressing room and figured out what the problem was; it was in 11/4. That was the night I decided that learning how to read music and some theory was probably a good idea. (I still have no idea why something in 11/4 felt so natural. The fact we never counted it out and none of us could dance probably had something to do with it.)

[@MusicMattersGB]

Great experience share there.

[@OdaKa]

I'd like to hear that. Sounds like a challenge

[@seangoodrich2980]

11/4;1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2 or 11/4;1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3 Frank Zappa composed a 13/4;1-2, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2, 1-2-3 Tapping the foot on the ONE while clapping out the full count gives us the "groove" or "feel" from which we can flow with the time signature.

[@SAHBfan]

You did well to play a piece in 11/4 by feel 😵

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[@scabbarae]

As a beginning guitar player, I really appreciated this video as it made a lot of sense to me. However, I was still having some trouble distinguishing between 2/2 and 4/4 until just now, when I started learning to play "Angels Fall" by Winterpills, and realized I was counting it as "ONE and TWO and ONE and TWO..." ...and then it clicked for real. Counting "One-two-three-four" seemed unnecessarily fast and impatient for a hazy, melancholy kind of song like that. Thank you sir!

[@MusicMattersGB]

Excellent. When you feel it through the music you’re playing then it makes complete sense.

[@andallthatjaz836]

This is easily the clearest and simplest explanation of this I've seen. Maths is one thing, but the *feel* of the music something else. This helped so incredibly much, thank you!

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[@nigelhaywood9753]

This is a wonderfully concise and informative video. I’m glad you mostly avoided talking about ‘common time’. There is a popular misconception that the ‘C’ is an abbreviation of ‘common’ but in fact it goes back to the ‘mensural notation’ of the late Middle Ages. Music in 3/4 was represented by a circle and was considered ‘perfect’ or ‘complete’. Music in duple or quadruple time was considered ‘imperfect’ or ‘incomplete’ and was represented by an incomplete circle. Three was a mystical number and was considered holy. The ‘C’ that we have now is a throwback to those times. The most common times were in fact the equivalents of our 3/4 and 6/8. The idea that 4/4 is ‘common’ only seems to make sense in the context of 20th and 21st century music. Waltzes and minuets used to be very common indeed.

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[@benetmerklin]

This is one of the very useful lesson for music students 👏👌Thank you so much 🙏

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The best music theory teacher by far! Thank you

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[@chasjazzz7842]

Always learn something new from you. Simply love it!! Thanks

[@Xplora213]

The algorithm brought me here. My background is Death Metal and a band called Nile famously uses 2/2 for a lot of their music. They are playing 16th notes over 230bpm very often and they pulse at half the beat for the precise reasons discussed here. You can’t really maintain a beat at 260bpm for 5 minutes, but 130? This might be possible, even if you are playing 32nd notes. Good video.

[@marcolandolfi844]

Can you suggest a song done in 2/2 by Nile?

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[@erik2602]

I love Nile. Technically speaking, 2/2 is the same as 4/4 in half time. Normally I would disregard any value below 60 or above 240, because you can just double or half it to make it a more intuitive bpm. With Nile though, because it's at such high speeds, I think it's useful to think of it as 2/2, so you can see all the nuances in their playing, while keeping it readable within each measure. It's all subjective though

[@christianboddum8783]

Divisions makes a very big difference when you dance. If I have to move to f.i. 5/4 I divide the feel to my feet 1-2-1-2-1. You clearly feel the differences of signatures when you move FWIW. Great video, will be checking more of them ;-)

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That’s great.

[@daviomusicozuero151]

Oh my... I was thinking about it earlier today! Thank you!

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Me too, it's uncanny!

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[@AbdulazizShabakouh]

With each new composition student I have I discuss this issue, and still no one seems to understand it! I wonder what should I do or say to make them feel the difference. Thank you so much.

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Keep up the good work!

[@AbdulazizShabakouh]

@@MusicMattersGB The next time I go through it again, I'll show them your (this) video. its the easiest and simplest way to explain it. Thank you much.

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Great

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

I think the hardest part of teaching this is pop rock and metal music in common practice of the last 70 years has been considered 4/4 whether or not it has the 4/4 feel.

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[@madisonallen6021]

Great video!!! I'm already in Music theory 3 and still didn't understand the difference between 4/4 and 2/2 thanks for this great explanation! Looking forward to watching more of your videos!

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[@Hawaiian_Shirt_guy]

same reason a lot of punk rock is in 2/2. I don't have a score in front of me or anything, but The Offspring song "million miles away" comes to mind.

[@yuritarelko9916]

Just found this channel. And this was a most understandable explanation of 2\2-4\4 difference for me. Incredible teaching.

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[@briansullivan3424]

This is literally the best explanation of the difference between 2/2 and 4/4 I've heard. It has always been something that has confused me, and this makes it very clear. Thank you! As always, love your content, Gareth!

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[@jerryscholl9260]

Though i can agree with part of this concept, one should note that there are plenty of compositions written in 4/4 but the 1/4 note is equal to 160 or more beats per second. Then you would not feel the the piece in 4 beats per measure but in 2 or even 1 beat per measure. On the opposite side - Mozart sym #39 is written in cut time (alle breve) but is conducted in 4 or even in 8 beats per measure.

[@MusicMattersGB]

It’s certainly true that composers don’t always choose the ideal time signature for the tempo or character of their piece.

[@shipsahoy1793]

Gareth, knowing how to interpret and execute a piece rhythmically is considered just as, or at times, more important than the melodic and/or harmonic interpretation. Unfortunately, all too many playing music fall short on this. Thanks for being there. One can only hope your message gets across😉

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[@hahahadracula]

"Unfortunately, all too many playing music fall short on this" this a 100%. that's why I'm here, as a humble guitar player knowing he sucks at these things. I hope that with a little more understanding I'll get better at this.

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[@shipsahoy1793]

@@hahahadracula 👍 well, you’ve got the right idea !we’re all in this together and learning is lifelong.. I didn’t mean to make it sound like I was on a high horse or anything for anybody that might be concerned about that, but I do feel where you coming from. I’m happy that I know a little bit more than the average ground pounder, but I’m always humble enough to be continually seeking betterment of self. Even when I know the content, I’ll check it out anyway, in case there’s some little tidbit that I could pick up that I may not have realized before.

[@hahahadracula]

@@shipsahoy1793 I have a background in Physics and chemistry. There is so much to know that no one can learn it all (unless you are gifted). I see music the same way. Just need to know what the basics are, and music has a lot of basics.

[@AtomizedSound]

Yes! Can we get more lessons on time signatures and lessons such as this!? Thanks

[@MusicMattersGB]

There are other videos on the channel on this subject. More are coming soon.

[@TheStobb50]

As a drummer who often plays Scottish traditional music I found i treat 22 Quick step as 44 when counting in my head it’s much easier to keep time and keep a smooth flow

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[@vittoriosommatinoSounDesign]

Great video! Thank you!

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[@JGlassy]

Very helpful! Nice attention on the ‘feel & intent’ nuances I hadn’t considered carefully enough.

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[@alongamoemmanuel9169]

Thanks for your time and explanation

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[@tchapolin]

Thank you so much!!! Even being Brazilian with a low level of English, he can understand the explanation well, and help me a lot. I'm a new subscribed

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[@samratroy1234]

I just want to say that your channel is a gold mine. All across the internet you see these newbs claiming to be Mozarts but hardly add any depth of knowledge in teaching the music theory.

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[@sizenineelm]

One of the biggest differences between 2/2 and 4/4 is when you add drums. In 2/2 it tends to be just bass on 1 and snare on 2, while 4/4 has bass on one and snare on 3, with hi-hat on 1,2,3,4 - totally different feel.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Sure

[@vadlasletta]

Claiming that a 4/4 has a heavy downbeat goes against what you would find in a rock song where the heavy beats typically are on two and four, also called the backbeat. In reggae you’ll even find examples that only has a heavy third beat in 4/4. But great video new sub here!

[@MusicMattersGB]

Sure. The back beats are key in certain styles.

[@DameBeagle]

Thanks!

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[@tackmack]

Nice explanation! Would be VERY useful to hear you play the SAME piece in 2/2 V 4/4 - Perhaps that would emphasize the difference even more effectively? Thanks as always :D

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[@twinsong177]

Always hated cut time, thought it was stupid and just made things unnessecarily complicated. Finished this video liking it! Great explanation, I can see how cut time is so important

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Excellent

[@vspatmx7458]

Priceless. You Rock. I truly hope that u get a billion views.

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[@SalAvenueNJ]

American music can show some great examples of the difference between 2/2 and 4/2. Bluegrass music is in 2/2 that ultra fast stuff with Earl Scruggs shredding on the banjo is in 2/2. You're just counting "One, Two, One, Two, One Two" . And there's a modern genre of American music called Alt Country that uses a very slow 2/2 pattern. Then for your blues and rock music you have 4/4. And with that signature you have the eighth notes on the 3rd beat, "One, Two, Three And, Four". I think not having the "And" in one time signature is a significant difference.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Good points

[@kazhilly]

The easiest way to feel the difference is by counting the beats: 4/4 is “One Two Three Four”, and 2/2: One and Two and. Good video, well explained.

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[@redsoil5821]

I love your theory's lessons. So well done. Thank you

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[@MarkJKLawrence]

Cut time is really useful when writing for funk too eg a high energy rhythm section with melodic horns. BTW I saw a recommendation for your channel on reddit, someone who is a (former?) Berklee tutor apparently, so here I am! I haven't watched that much yet, but from what I've seen so far it's very clear and well explained info 👍Great stuff, thanks.

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[@bubnjarskiforum9409]

Latin music is in cut time

[@ana_moonlight333]

The most useful video on KZbin.

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[@superblondeDotOrg]

tu tu → 💃 fur fur → 🐻 any questions, class? actually "c = common time" is a pet peeve incorrect fact because as you know historically the "c" is actually a half circle indicating a non-trinity time, it never was a "c" as an abbreviation of "common" 03:47 Great demo. More ear training examples needed on this difference.. and now I wonder if music notation software adapts the sheet music playback algorithm (MIDI velocity emphasis) between 2/2 and 4/4.

[@superblondeDotOrg]

wait did you play the outro music in 2/2 ? lol

[@MusicMattersGB]

I’m not claiming it to be historical fact but saying it’s the best way to remember it.

[@ohpotatoesandmolasses]

3/4 and 6/8 is another one that trips a lot of folks up!

[@MusicMattersGB]

Absolutely. See our video on the subject

[@marekgaazka7279]

Great and simple lesson. Greatings from Poland.

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[@petertyrrell3391]

Very broadly what you say is right. However, in the 18th C and early 19th C barred C could be used to increase the tempo of a 4/4 piece, and if there are are lot of semiquavers or if the rhythm shows 4 beats this is likely to be the case. Czerny and Hummel quote pieces written in barred C as being in 4/4 too often for it to be a mistake. The same applies to pieces in 2/4 - with lots of demisemiquavers they are effectively in 4/8. Also in 4/4 slow movements, the beat is very often a quaver beat, and to count it in 4/4 will increase the speed of an adagio to an andante or moderato. I haven't read every word of every old treatise, but so far I have found no evidence that a 4/4 would be counted in 2/2 in olden times. Avoiding heaviness can be done by articulation rather than increasing the speed.

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[@embodiedconducting]

Many marches are written in 2/4 or Cut Time rather than 4/4. This makes sense because we have 2 feet, not 4. it is also often a challenge to discern whether a piece is in 2 or 4 by listening to it without the benefit of having the score in front of you.

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Absolutely

[@janubbelohdehenningsen4190]

Fantastic explanation... got a new subscriber now!

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[@BS-gj5ot]

clear and concise explanation. Thanks

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[@tidalwave71]

Such good explanation!! Thank you.

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[@EddieRay724]

I always thought cut time was used in marches where the two beats corresponded to left foot/right foot. No?

[@MusicMattersGB]

Possibly

[@jimgolab536]

I have also seen cut time used to simplify the writing of 16th and 32nd notes, by allowing them to be written as 8th and 16th notes, respectively. Saves having to write that extra line.

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Absolutely

[@oldensad5541]

Thank you i finally get it! Now the important part - understand how to implement it in DAW, coz I'm not playing music, i program ot in midi

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[@UYIBASS]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS lecture...

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[@spark300c]

I think now I wonder what different between 2/2 and 2/4 on base only what we hear. Both have two beats in the measure. how one center around the half note and the other the quarter note.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Absolutely. It’s just a matter of notation. They sound the same.

[@joeldheath]

Apparently there's something different about the way I hear music because I have watched this a dozen times and don't "feel" anything about either time signature and they don't seem any different to me other than what notes are played. The way this is described makes it seem like there's something screamingly obvious about where a bar ends and I just don't hear or feel anything.

[@MusicMattersGB]

The difference is subtle but significant

[@HarleyBob957]

Thanks for clarity on the difference.

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[@johnvallelycomposer]

Very nicely explained 👌

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[@mikehopkins4040]

So much easier to understand the half note and the quarter note than minims and such things.

[@MusicMattersGB]

It depends on one’s musical upbringing

[@craigbrowning9448]

Someone to lean going back in history of European music notation, 3/4 Time was represented by a circle (°) which represented perfection is in the Holy Trinity. The "C" of Common Time, or "C" with line through it (¢) for "Cut" time 2/2 represented a broken circle.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Absolutely

[@marielaclericorhodes3030]

excellent explanation Maestro!

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[@TechPithan]

Just a question. If we want to feel 2 beats in a bar. Wouldn’t 2 4 time do the same. Just wanted to understand if the minim measure does anything in terms of tempo of the song or count. Apologies if I am getting this completely wrong. Thanks

[@MusicMattersGB]

2/4 and 2/2 sound the same as each other. They simply look different.

[@TechPithan]

@@MusicMattersGB Thanks a lot

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[@mahallati]

Thank you for your explanation! If 2 beats per measure is what we want, then why not choose 2/4 rather than 2/2? Does the decision, also, depend on the real estate or the readability of the score? For example, in 2/2 one can use quarter notes, where in 2/4 one would use eighth notes. But, it also depends on the tempo.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Absolutely. It will sound the same either way but it’s up to the composer to decide which is easier to read.

[@rowancharleslee]

Great explanation, thanks

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[@jheachua.e]

super helpful, thank you!!!

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[@stephenanthonythomas3533]

As a drummer for a Pink Floyd tribute band I often set my metronome to 2/4 bc the emphasis on the 1 helps the band lock in.

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[@AleScati]

Spiegazione perfetta, grazie!

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[@johnkilpatrick2343]

Okay, I get the explanation, thanks... but, what happens if the nots I want to emphasise are different, e.g. 2 or 4 but not 1 & 3? How then would I know if it was 2/4 or 4/4 time?

[@MusicMattersGB]

Some styles certainly involve emphasising the back beats but if you’re stressing beats 2&4 you know you’re in 4 time.

[@chicojcf]

Wonderful explanations!

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[@Sciaining]

Thanks, but now I'm wondering what's the difference between 2/4 and 2/2... is it just the tempo in this case or is there a difference on how the music feels here too?

[@MusicMattersGB]

2/2 often features a faster tempo. The rest is about notation.

[@jstevenson7121]

@@MusicMattersGB can you clarify? I too don't get 2/4 vs 4/4

[@jstevenson7121]

Sorry 2/4 vs 2/2

[@chipsnegativeharmonyrips7187]

@@MusicMattersGB So there's no difference. You could write the exact same piece in the same tempo in 2/4 and in 2/2 and they would be performed in the same way.

[@MusicMattersGB]

True

[@sameash3153]

At a certain point all tempos and meters eventually become the same. 2/2 with the half note at 80 is the same as 4/4 with the quarter at 160 which is the same as 8/8 with the eighth at 320 (not that anybody would ever use that). At a certain point once you keep adding or subtracting BPM you end up back where you started just with a different subdivision of the whole note, but the divisions below and higher than the one you count with convert back to each other. So if there's a 2/2 piece in 70 bpm, the subdivisions are really in 140 bpm, but these are actually equivalent, you could count both tempos on both feet if you really wanted (and generally, you don't count just the ictus, you also count the subdivisions). There's actually only a limited number of tempi that the whole note can have if you look at it this way, because the higher or lower you go you always end up circling back to a tempo you had previously. There's also nothing actually stopping you from counting 4/4 in two or 2/2 in four. Usually you do count faster 4/4 tempos in two, beats 2 and 4 are the same as the "and" of 1 and 2 in 2/2, the stresses fall in the same places too.

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[@dsm2240]

The beginning of Beethoven's 15th string quartet has 8 measures marked "Assai sostenuto" in cut time, followed by "Allegro" in common time. I do not understand why he used both time signatures. As for making the music "lighter", the profoundly sad first movement of the 14th string quartet is in cut time. Chopin's E-minor prelude is "Largo" but in cut time.

[@ata5855]

Re: 15th string quartet, my guess is he wanted each of the sustained note attacks to feel like downbeats in each subsequent measure, rather than a somewhat weaker feel on beat 3 of a 4/4.

[@MusicMattersGB]

It’s really about the weight of the pulse in any given context.

[@carlpeterson8182]

Great video. I think this all works if one is more conventional and is composing or playing in a conventional style. But some progressive musicians could take a piece in 2/2 and play it in a way which is sounds like 4/4 with the accents on beats that would make it sound like 4/4 instead of 2/2 or vice versa or even other odder time signatures.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Absolutely

[@Hexspa]

Very nice. I'm much clearer on this now. Prior, I semi-consciously assumed that 2/2 would feel heavier. This is likely due to half notes (minims) being strong in 4/4. Turns out the contrary is true. 4/4 has two strong beats and 2/2 just has one. So, in a sense, 2/2 has just one beat per measure and 4/4 has two. Maybe Bluegrass is the strongest example I'm somewhat familiar with with a 2/2 feel.

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[@1080kk]

Great video! Helps so much!

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[@stevewilson9790]

Great video as always. Like how you use measure and bar. Two points of interest. Point 1, it appears that Early church music was in triple time and used a circle time signature. Anything else used a half circle or common time ? Point 2, in Glenn Miller's Chatanooga Choo Choo, Tex Beneke sings "the whistle blowing 8 to the bar (I guess measure didn't rhyme with far?)

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[@howiesmith1504]

We usually call measures "bars" in North America. Also, boogie woogie was a craze in the late '30s and 40s, and the lyric was an obvious reference to the hit tune "Beat Me Daddy, 8 to the Bar," which every pop music fan knew.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Fair enough.

[@MyRackley]

Bossa Nova music has a 2/2 time feel, but so often it's notated wrongly as 4/4. Thanks for the explanation.

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[@squaresunmusic]

Tonic chords in cadences are always placed on the strongest metric positions in the meter, i.e. beat one. The cadential dominant will often fall at the halfway point (or slightly later) metrically in the previous measure. Obviously, if the harmonic rhythm is solidly one chord per measure, the entire penultimate measure will hold the cadential dominant. The examples here appear to circumvent that.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Because there are vast numbers of examples that don’t follow your premise.

[@BillMcGirr]

Very enjoyable video. Interesting and informative. Good stuff.🎸👍

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[@jeffreybritton3338]

Is the difference just down to emphasis? B b b b B b b b vs B b B b Because the duration of 1/2 notes and 1/4 notes are a function of beats per minute, so without emphasis I think the two signatures would sound identical.

[@MusicMattersGB]

The emphasis is different in relation to the notated rhythms

[@killiantouboul8462]

Thanks for this video ! But I got one question : what about 2/4 ? Is it the same as 2/2 ? :)

[@MusicMattersGB]

It is the same but notated according to the time signature

[@tcng9808]

Very well said its musical difference, now I understand thank you.

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[@lucertola260]

Brilliantly presented and informative talk. Now I know what the slashed C signature means i will stop playing it in 4/4!

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[@magnificentchorale300]

That was just amazing, thank you prof

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[@beeaech1799]

A really good example where you can feel 2/2 is "Don't Get Me Wrong" by the Pretenders. Just listen to the Bass & Drum parts and you will feel it.

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[@Xpertcard]

A great example of 2/2 time is the song Africa by Toto. If you listen to it carefully you can hear a clear emphasis after every 2 beats.

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[@FritzSolms]

I do appreciate your videos a lot :).

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[@edelcorrallira]

I suppose this is probably the same concept behind 3/4 vs 6/8 I think this is a fascinating subject. And certainly something to exploit in different layers :)

[@MusicMattersGB]

There are similarities but 3/4 is simple triple time; 6/8 is compound duple time.

[@edelcorrallira]

@@MusicMattersGB would it be fair to at times (for effect) treat 4/4 as a combined 2/4? Thinking of light hearted 2/2s... Perhaps with two motivs chained up to build a melody but that thrive in their 2/4 little boxes?

[@MusicMattersGB]

2/4 and 4/4 are different in terms of emphasis, as explored in the video.

[@WBensburg]

No. 3/4 means there are 3 beats to a measure, but in 6/8 (usually) there are 2 beats to a measure, with 3 eighth notes in each. There are some pieces (the famous Barcarolle of Offenbach comes to mind) where the 6/8 feels just as it's described: 6 beats to a measure, each eighth note one beat.

[@guitarslim56]

No. 3/4 and 6/8 are totally different. What is confusing is the difference between 4/4 with triplets, or 12/8.

[@CodyHazelleMusic]

How does 2/2 compare to 2/4? I notice a lot of tangos are in 2/4, namely Solace by Scott Joplin and Tango in D by Albeniz. Do they feel different? Other than being tangos of course...

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[@stevethordarson5198]

Great video. Thank you very much.

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[@omwilsonow]

This is great, thank you very much 😊

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[@raymond4u100]

Thank you for this

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[@NomeDeArte]

Great video, thank you Gareth!

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[@harrieth7003]

In 2/2, could you do crotchet-minim-crotchet, or would you have to do 4 crotchets with the middle 2 tied? Thanks.

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You can write crotchet minim crotchet. Yes.

[@projectjabootskie]

Good golly Moses you helped so much just now

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[@torbjrngrnas9535]

Very informative. Thank you🙂

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[@mckernan603]

Good lesson. I could have used 3-4 more examples, e.g. you playing a 2/4 song in 4/4

[@jonjeffries3265]

Could one compare the three four and six eight to this lesson also..?

[@MusicMattersGB]

More examples. Fair point. 3/4 and 6/8 are fundamentally different. We have a video on that topic.

[@pulykamell]

I was wondering about 2/2 vs 2/4. Both have two beats in a bar, just a different foundational note value. Is the difference only in terms of how you write them out? That is, in some cases, it's clearer to write it out as 2/2 instead of 2/4 with the appropriate tempo marking, or is there some other difference? 3/4 vs 6/8 I understand -- big difference in terms of duple vs triple feel. But 2/2 vs 2/4 I'm unclear on whether there's anything more going on than the note values written out.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Yes. That’s essentially the issue. The difficulty comes when people play 2/2 pieces as if they are in 4/4.

[@caleb7327]

Great video thank you so much.

[@caleb7327]

This fixed my confusion.

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[@ajsiemers]

That was really helpful!

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[@markallen351]

Very enjoyable video thank you .Please can you tell me if any of your courses covers sight reading for drum kit ? thanks - Mark

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Not at the moment but there’s a rhythm course due next year

[@christianiacuzzi1572]

The question now is: what's the difference between 2/2 and 2/4? In theory the difference lies in the different measure unit, but practically? What makes composers choose 2/2 over 2/4? What's the difference between playing 4 quavers in 2/4 (quarter=60 bpm) and playing 4 crotchets in 2/2 (half=60 bpm)?

[@MusicMattersGB]

It’s really the subtlety of where strong and weak beats occur in relation to rhythms but also to tempo and to the level of notational congestion.

[@pravashchatterjee7374]

With due respect, on the same tempo, explaining musical defference among 2/2, 2/4, 4/4 is easy, if it's explained in a more subtle way. Because a Minim note takes 2 beats, a crotchet note takes 1 beat, so crotchet note on 4/4 time signature is counted as 1234, but with the same tempo, in 2/2 time signature Minim note is counted like 1 hold 2 hold, therefore in 2/2 the notes playing frequency becomes half of 4/4, but in 2/4 notes playing frequency is as same as 4/4, hence it sounds as fast as 4/4 in relation to the same tempo.

[@MusicMattersGB]

It doesn’t really work like that because 2 as the lower number tells us to count minims as single beats ie not to count 2 on each minim.

[@augustinechinnappanmuthria7042]

Super super super explanation

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[@loveguitar07]

This is so valuable a lesson to me. Could you please clarify about the beat emphasis differences between 4/4 and 2/2? Is it correct to say in a 2/2, only the first beat has emphasis while in a 4/4 the first and third beat get emphasis but first beat emphasis must be the stronger? Thank you.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Absolutely correct

[@guitorb]

You can really feel the difference when soloing on the guitar as well. Country players often solo in 2/2 and it feels twice as fast. Whereas , Rockers solo in 4/4.

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