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@arsonrobinson59082 жыл бұрын
I just clicked on a random video on this channel because I didnt know where to say this, but oh my god is this the best channel I have ever come across. I have been playing piano for 2 years, but I was never taught proper music theory besides names of notes. Recently I discovered that there is so much more to music theory and I've been trying to find places to learn it, but every other channel on youtube is for beginners, I've already watched all of those. Now I know the basics of music theory, but I haven't been able to find a channel above beginner. This is the best channel ever, I dont have to pay, or anything to just have music theory at the tip of my fingers. I'm a young teenager who wants to be a musician and pianist. I feel like I can actually be that without having to pay. Keep doing what you do.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@susanollington52572 жыл бұрын
When you get to extending yourself into more of the artistic side of music over the pure theory, Adam Neely has some great videos, although they do occasionally require the kind of background knowledge you’ll acquire here - not always though so you could check him out - he’s kind of like “this is how you could/should break the theory rules as a musician” Something to keep in mind for one day in the future
@nicholashewett97911 ай бұрын
Music can most definitely have just "one beat" every measure. You said it wouldn't happen but my mind went straight to something such as a waltz being written in 3/4 but the score having a note to the conductor to direct it "in 1." I just realized, while watching this video and thinking about the waltz, that it would be just as easy to write a waltz in 3/8 and direct it as a compound measure than writing it in "3/4 - Direct in 1."
@MusicMattersGB11 ай бұрын
My point acknowledges that one might feel it one in a bar but that there are still two other beats in each bar, even if they’re treated lightly.
@alyssiaalexandria35538 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this, most helpful. Happy Holidays!
@MusicMattersGB8 ай бұрын
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@jameslemode6 ай бұрын
I'm so happy you actually played something. Lots of videos out there that are 100% theory and thats not the beauty of music is it
@MusicMattersGB6 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@DavideSablone2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I though I was crazy but I couldn't find any musical difference between those two tempo. Now I shall have some piece
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@Whatismusic12310 ай бұрын
Your feelings were validated, however, your feelings were wrong. The difference lies in your understanding. To a beginner, a beat and a division of the beat, and a measure, all sound the same, thus they count them, instead of *feeling* them. Even amongst "experts" such is often the case. However, with proper training you can learn to seperate them into categories, or layers, and recognize the difference between 3/8 and 3/4. The former is 1 beat in a measure, the latter is 3 beats in a measure.
@stevencharleswhite7045 Жыл бұрын
3/8 is felt as a single (elliptical) orbit played out to the count of three. The orbit, or cycle, is like that of a moon, or a yo-yo looping around the hand. Whereas 3/4 is closer to a War of the Worlds tripod marching (2/4 a person marching; 4/4 a centaur marching). 3/4 is three pieces (a triangle); but 3/8 is a single elegant and swirling cycle traveled to the count of three. This video got close, around the 5:25 mark, when it said "it's *not* this". But in fact thinking of 3/8 like that does teach the audience something. Saying "3/8 is just 3/4 except with three eighth notes per bar" teaches us nothing, and we can already see that unhelpful info in the numbers. That's why we came seeking insight into the difference. And then after correctly explaining the difference between 3/4 and 3/8, it'd be great to play two examples of which the audience can say, yes, I hear the difference in feel. I didn't think that about the examples towards the end of this video. Bars 3-5 of Für Elise would work as an example. Play them in 3/4 (how they're not meant to feel), and then in 3/8 (as they are meant to feel) so that we can experience the difference, and reproduce that difference in our own playing.
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
In 3/8 there are three quaver beats (not triplets) and that’s why it’s classified as a Simple Triple time. Even though it might sometimes be played one in a bar we don’t classify time signatures in single beats, which is why it’s not Compound time.
@Whatismusic12310 ай бұрын
Holy delusion
@matt_phistopheles2 жыл бұрын
Is 15/16 is a compound or a complex time signature? Technically 15 is a multiple of 3 but when I came across it in actual music then the notes were arranged in 3 groups with 5 notes most of the time. That's also what I would use 15/16 for intuitively.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting question. If the sequence of Compound time signatures run 6,9,12 as the upper number then 15 is the next number in the series. This means it could be Compound Quintuple time but in reality, even though it appears rarely, it often includes irregular internal groupings. Also even if it has five beats it’s therefore an irregular time signature.
@gugelhupf89552 жыл бұрын
YEAH! And what's about 17/19 ?
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
17/19 is not a time signature I’ve ever seen. 19 as a lower number doesn’t really fit into a recognised musical scheme.
@nm88347 ай бұрын
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@MusicMattersGB7 ай бұрын
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@StephenB_LE92 жыл бұрын
Hi Gareth, In my experience playing in bands, the conductors I have worked with tend always to beat bars of 3 8 as 1 in a bar.! especially if the tempo is brisk.!
@FacePomagranate2 жыл бұрын
Or sometimes 3/4 if the tempo is fast enough. Usually they'll conduct the measures in groups of 4; I believe the term is supermetric.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
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@karlakor2 жыл бұрын
Actually, there does exist music which embodies only ONE beat per bar. All four of Chopin's scherzos are in 3/4 time, but the feeling of duple meter is only discernable when one counts each entire bar as one beat. Each measure has only three beats per bar, the dotted half note being the beat note, but all four scherzos are felt in duple meter. I have often wondered why Chopin notated these pieces in this way.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Certainly an unusual example
@bismarckluna Жыл бұрын
Time signatures have associations with specific genres, and Scherzos are almost always in triple meter. I Believe Chopin used it to say "This is a scherzo on steroids". A similar situation happens in Beethoven. In the 9th Symphony's Scherzo the 3/4 is so fast that you hear the dotted half note as a beat in a quadruple or duple time. Beethoven seems to aknowledge that since he writes "Ritmo di tre battute" (3 beat rhythm) at some point because if feels like it changed to triple meter. It also seems like a way to avoid changing the time signature, which was very uncommon at the time.
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
😀 Not sure about the steroid quote in relation to Chopin - he lived about a century ahead of steroids.
@Whatismusic12310 ай бұрын
@@MusicMattersGBnot unusual at all, a great majority of the time, 3/8 music is 1 beat per measure. Many chopin waltzes are also 1 beat per measure.
@MusicMattersGB10 ай бұрын
Of course one often plays one in a bar, even though it’s a Simple Triple metre.
@ivanrojasreischel2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting to know why a composer use 3 8 instead of 3 4 , specially when they can use the tempo notation if they want to speed up the music. It is then just a matter of personal taste about how the composer wants the score looks?
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
More or less. Tempo might affect things.
@arlenebrahm27192 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your clear and helpful, explanations.
@ellenrosemamachingguciocor94952 жыл бұрын
so nice.. clear explanation now i understand.. thanxoomuch Sir.. God bless you abundantly...
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@thomaswilke63122 жыл бұрын
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@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@locuratronic2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, Master. Saludos desde Argentina!
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
A pleasure. Greetings to you too!
@stephenweigel2 жыл бұрын
What would you have to say about contexts where there’s clearly switching compound time, and 3/8 is included in the mix? For example, music where there’s quite a bit of 6/8 time and then one 3/8 bar is thrown in and then it goes back to 6/8? I’d argue that in those contexts, 3/8 may act as a compound bar with one beat even though there are often easy ways to avoid writing it. (for example, if I was in such a situation and wanted it to be clear for the reader that a compound feel was necessary, I would probably write a bar in 9/8, encapsulating the previous bar). I am curious as to how you deal with this example - would you say we still feel it as compound? Would it count as non-conventional usage? Would you go so far as to say that the writer has done it wrong if they used 3/8 in this way? It’s funny, I think there’s quite a higher chance of encountering a 3/8 bar that acts like one beat as opposed to a bar of 1/4!!!
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
That’s a fair argument. A temporary 3/8 bar in the context of 6/8 or 9/8 might be felt one in a bar - or not - it all rather depends on context. I certainly wouldn’t claim it to be “wrong”. If a whole 3/8 piece were performed one in a bar a whole series of single strong beats might be heavy going!
@bismarckluna Жыл бұрын
Something similar also happens when you want to extend 4/4 by 2 beats. Sometimes composers will use a bar of 6/4, which is compound and just a different way of writing 6/8, but it looks like a extended 4/4 if you beam it like it. Sometimes they'll use a bar of 3/2, which is simple meter but technically changes the beat to the half note. Sometimes they'll just throw a 2/4 bar, that adds an extra strong beat. Though in context is pretty clear what they're trying to indicate. Mahler uses these 3 methods in his compositions and I'm not sure why he chooses one or another ha ha.
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
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@Hotsk2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing this up.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
A pleasure
@Ankit-hc4sw2 жыл бұрын
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@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@Ankit-hc4sw2 жыл бұрын
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@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@Ankit-hc4sw2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB Thanks I'll look it up :)
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@HowlingUlf2 жыл бұрын
You can't have one beat thumping at you? Wanna bet? Turn on the radio! :D Yes, I know, techincally it's all 4/4 on the radio but you know ... that pile crane groove might as well be in 1/4!
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@LucBoeren7 ай бұрын
Wow amazing explanation thank you!
@MusicMattersGB7 ай бұрын
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@manuelcarro85012 ай бұрын
Me costó dar con la explicación exacta de este tema, muchas gracias!
@MusicMattersGB2 ай бұрын
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@Elena-ex6bn Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome explanation! It is very clear to understand.
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
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@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo Жыл бұрын
If I am a drummer and want to give a pulse with my hi hat, for example: should I give three pulses with the length/interval of 1/8 each per bar in 3/8 ? That would be double as fast as three pulses with the interval 1/4 which I would use in 3/4. Or, in other words, is a bar half as long (in time) in 3/8 than in 3/4?
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
In effect 3/4 sounds exactly the same as 3/8. It’s really just a notational difference
@tonyhull94272 жыл бұрын
I would have thought 3/8 time signature would sound like "1 and 2, 1 and 2, etc."
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Not ideally because it places 2 in the wrong part of the bar. Better to count 1,2,3.
@joseph-zoramcbride40292 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB Don't 8th notes signify an and? So counting 1 and 2 and 3 and 2 and 2 and 3, say, for 6/8? Thanks.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
8th notes don’t particularly signify the end. In 6/8 better to count 123456 then reduce to two beats per bar.
@maraboo722 жыл бұрын
@@joseph-zoramcbride4029 It is the difference between 3/4 and 6/8. If you play the notes c1, e1, g1, c2, g1, e1 as one bar in a signature of 3/4 you would count 1 and 2 and 3 and having 3 beats on 1, 2 and 3. In 6/8 you would count 1 2 3 , 4 5 6 with a beat on 1 and 4. Same notes, same tempo but different.
@bassmart9022 жыл бұрын
Compound divisible by 3, simple by 2
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true. These are both Simple time signatures.
@davidwhite29493 жыл бұрын
Beautiful illustration, by the way, when comparing 3/4 and 3/8 time signatures
@MusicMattersGB3 жыл бұрын
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@BleuMetalRecords11 ай бұрын
Why the muse feeling good song isn't in 6/8 as it sounds more like this than 12/8? Can you explain that to me please?
@MusicMattersGB11 ай бұрын
You have to listen for the first best emphasis.
@jacksmith44602 жыл бұрын
05:55 yeh its called "Brutal Truth" lool except its a lot faster
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@pippippip632 жыл бұрын
Thanks . I understand that for mathemic it doesnt diff. btw 3/4 and 3/8
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@localestore92829 ай бұрын
This video solve my confuses
@MusicMattersGB9 ай бұрын
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@theclarencehood Жыл бұрын
Theory Grade 2 in trinity college says to always beam the quavers in 3/8 time signature rather than writing it separately
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
That’s correct
@theclarencehood Жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB but in the video you said that 3/8 must not be beamed and must be written separately. Which one is correct?
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
For notes they are beamed together. That’s what I say in the video.
@theclarencehood Жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB okay... Im still learning these grades. Reached 2nd. And im very confused about it.
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
It can be confusing until you get it settled. Keep at it!
@josephjosepha72882 жыл бұрын
Is 5/4 a Simple Meter of Quintuple Or Irregular (Complex) Of Duple Composed Of (Compoud + Simple) ?
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
It’s an irregular time signature that can be 3+2 or 2+3
@consterus9 ай бұрын
I transcribe the song by ear Willie Nelson - Red Headed Stranger. I can’t figure out which time signature to choose - 3/4, 3/8 или 6/8. Now I’ll still start doing it at 3/4, but your advice would be helpful for the future. I would be very grateful for a hint. I can just choose 3/4 and choose a tempo of about 150, but I can also choose a 3/8 time signature, but then the tempo would have to be 75. And I have a dilemma.
@MusicMattersGB9 ай бұрын
Probably easier to write in 3/4.
@consterus9 ай бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB Thanks a lot!
@MusicMattersGB9 ай бұрын
@consterus 😀
@jarrahdrum2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@davib.franco78574 ай бұрын
Can the same thing be applied to time signatures with the same denominator in general? For example, the difference between 4/8 and 4/4.
@MusicMattersGB4 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@MrTrashcan12 жыл бұрын
What is the origin of the names of the notes used by the Brits?
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
The British names go back at least to English renaissance music, and the terms of Latin origin had international currency at that time. Obviously, longa means 'long', and the rest rarely indicate relative shortness. Brave is from Latin bravis, 'short', minim is from minimus, 'very small', and quiver refers to the quivering effect of very fast notes. The elements sem-, dem- and hem- mean 'half' in Latin, French and Greek respectively, while quasi- means 'almost'. The chain semantic shift whereby notes which were originally perceived as short came progressively to be long notes is interesting both linguistically and musically. However, the crotchet is named after the shape of the note, from the Old French for a 'little hook', and it is possible to argue that the same is true of the minim, since the word is also used in palaeography to mean a vertical stroke in mediaeval handwriting. The U.S. names were originally translated from the German names for the notes because so many German composers immigrated to the United States in the 19th century.
@mmaaiissee1 Жыл бұрын
Excuse me Sir, can you explain : is that 6/8 means 3 beats in a quarter-note, so the value of one beat is a quarter-note divided by 3 - 3.3333 ??? Thank you so much.
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
6/8 means 6 eighth notes per bar but divided into two groups of 3, which results in 2 quarter note beats.
@canman50602 жыл бұрын
You can see some really unusal compound time like 16/32 in Beethoven late piano sonatas.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Late Beethoven is a good example
@Whatismusic12310 ай бұрын
Time signatures of 16 are interesting, as they're best used to describe large divisions of the beat, for example, in Sciabin's op 10 sonata, there is 1 beat per measure, however it is divided into 9, and thus the time signature is 9/16
@alg882910 ай бұрын
hello sir, Christmas is approaching, if you wish you can make a difference in the rhythm of the silent night song in the 3/4, 6/8 and 6/4 versions. what is the main difference. because some songs in church hymns use 6/8, 6/4, and 3/4, thank you
@MusicMattersGB10 ай бұрын
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@miguelarambulo8010 Жыл бұрын
fantastic explanation ! specially about the tempo y the use of note values to write the same melody in each key signature.(loved the word congested ;) )
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
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@jayducharme2 жыл бұрын
That was interesting, thanks! I suppose time signatures like 5/4 and 7/4 exist in a kind of nether region, not quite simple and not quite compound time. I guess they're sort of compound, depending on how the composer wants them played (i.e.: 3/4 + 2/4 or 2/4 + 3/4).
@theclarionhall47552 жыл бұрын
I think of them as “complex.” Many people have just referred to them as odd time signatures.
@AtomizedSound2 жыл бұрын
Yeah those are technically referred to as odd or complex time signatures but they are sometimes or mostly grouped into certain groupings when played rather than seeing them written straight out.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Those are known as irregular time signatures.
@kathleencook30602 жыл бұрын
The top time is smaller than the bottom number 2/4, 3/4 , 4/4 ,6/8
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes they do.
@trioofone89112 жыл бұрын
What about 3/2 and 6/4 time? I play alot of Scottish, Irish and English fiddle music. There are Scottish pipe marches and Irish slipjigs in 9/8, English folk dances and Morris dances in 3/2 and 6/4, etc. Are those just old fashioned relics from another age, or legit time signatures with their own internal logic and rhythm shorthand?
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
3/2 gives you three minim beats per bar. 6/4 gives you two dotted minim beats per bar.
@materdeimusicd.buckley29742 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could add 3/2 time?
@materdeimusicd.buckley29742 жыл бұрын
I argue with you on the one beat 3/8. Composers can do in compound time. Just in simple time it is like a hammer as you say. However, conductors are trained to conduct in 1 if I remember correctly from a conducting course too many moons ago.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@abhijitkarmakar22545 ай бұрын
3/8 not clear to me. Please clarify easiest way by playing 3/4 compared to 3/8.
@MusicMattersGB5 ай бұрын
It’s more about how it’s written than how it’s played. See the explanation in the video.
@foxjacket2 жыл бұрын
So Beethoven could have written Fur Elise in 3/4 but he just chose not to, and to communicate a faster tempo, would you say? Meanwhile, something like Chopin op 18 which is quite fast is written in 3/4. It would look very congested if it was in 3/8 😅
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@Whatismusic12310 ай бұрын
No, fur elise is 3/8 because for every 3 eigth notes, there is a beat, 1 beat every measure.
@rjlchristie2 жыл бұрын
When defining time signatures it is better to talk of the upper number defining counts rather than beats. Get it clear at the outset - it saves a great deal of later confusion. Counts are not neccessarily the same as beats. I'm amazed at how many publications and educators don't make the distinction early.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
A good way of thinking about it.
@ata58552 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I will never understand why educators will always use the unclear, inarticulate phrase "quarter note gets the beat".
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Strange expression
@marciorjusto11 ай бұрын
Can you explain "Counts are not neccessarily the same as beats."? A "count" is a "pulse"? And what the difference between pulse and beat?
@rjlchristie11 ай бұрын
@@marciorjusto "Can you explain "Counts are not neccessarily the same as beats."" Consider what are known as compound time signatures (e.g. those with 6,9,12 as the upper number).. Let's use 6/8 to illustrate. The count is 6 to a bar. Yet the primary beats are two to the bar (on count 1 and 4). Two groups of three with the emphasis on the first of each group. Thus, the count and the beat are not synonymous. the way the beat and count structure is organised is known as the metre and is indicated in the time signature and its associated conventions. Beat is a hierarchical concept, some beats being stronger some weaker. They generally fall on instants that coincide with where the pulse lies (the underlying regular clock that unifies the rhythm) but sometimes not. The overall synthesis of such elements is collectively termed the rhythm. I hope i haven't misled with anything there. others fell free to correct me if I have. I suggest you use Wikipedia or a musical reference to look up the terms, Rhythm, time signature, metre (or meter), musical pulse, syncopation and musical beat.
@sproduction346 Жыл бұрын
sir, request a discussion on silent night song. I don't know what time the original used, but some translations of the church hymn use 6/4, 3/4, 6/8. Thank You
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
It often works best in 6/8 to achieve the lilting rhythm fully.
@sproduction346 Жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB can you make a simple video for 6/8, 6/4 and 3/4 difference. what would the song be like?
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
Okay
@sproduction346 Жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB Thank you very much sir,😘😇
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@shipsahoy17932 жыл бұрын
Gareth, you didn’t mention what the composer would write if he had a section of music that he was writing in 3/8 that the hammer sound was desired 🤣 . I guess that would be written in..
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@AtomizedSound2 жыл бұрын
So 3/32, 3/64 and 3/128 in theory would follow the same principles as the others? If you wanted to use those in faster tempo pieces?
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
3/4 3/8 and 3/16 are commonly used. 3/32 etc are theoretically possible but we do not often encounter them.
@theclarionhall47552 жыл бұрын
I’m theory, but who would want to see 32nd notes or smaller as the primary unit? It’s not very sensible in my opinion. I personally prefer to only see 3/4 and the tempo can vary just as much as anything. What you have to keep in mind is that typically in simple meters, you use the note represented by the bottom number as the primary beat for tempo. For example, 3/4 with (quarter note) = 100 bpm or 3/8 with (8th note) = 100 bpm. The only difference might end up being in the “vibe” coming from the performers in thinking about it, but it’s pretty much indistinguishable to the listener.
@AtomizedSound2 жыл бұрын
@@theclarionhall4755 yes I’m aware of that, but I was just wondering if the same could be applied to higher values such as 3/32 and beyond. There have been modern pieces with those time signatures in them and one does begin to question the practicality of it when it shifts into a /32 bar or something but music wise I suppose it’s possible even if it’s with a program and not for humans to play.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that Bach likes to use 16 as the lower number in quite a few pieces.
@AtomizedSound2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB Yes, and Beethoven had some measures 9/16 in his C minor Sonata and maybe even beyond but I know of the /16 for sure in that one. Perhaps some other pieces as well.
@patzeller34292 жыл бұрын
Drummer here.....thank you!
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@DavidConnors Жыл бұрын
Great explaination as always.
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
A pleasure
@isoEH2 жыл бұрын
Almost humour? So, in 3/4 time, if you have dotted quarter notes sequentially in several bars, are those called biplets?
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Some composers like to do that. It’s either a cross rhythm with another part using conventional 3/4 rhythms or it’s a temporary use of 6/8. If you’re in 6/8 and you decide to write two dotted quavers next door to each other within a beat we call those notes duplets.
@isoEH2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB First, thanks! Sequential dotted quavers in 6/8 are duplets. Still learning.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous
@chessematics2 жыл бұрын
It's ok that 2, 3, 4 make Simple time and 6, 9, 12 make Compound, but that about 5, 8, 10, 16 kind of things?
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Those are irregular time signatures.
@chessematics2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB ok! Thanks a lot sir
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@selfhelp7278 Жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation. Thank you very much.
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@rumahunitedind0nesia Жыл бұрын
please sir, 3/4 and 6/4
@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
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@GuitSiva2 жыл бұрын
Good job.. 😘🙏
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@fretlessman712 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I have come to the conclusion that if a piece is in 3/X, and it's fast enough to be able to easily feel it in "One, one, one", then I shall call it 3/8, but otherwise stick to 3/4. Thanks!
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@nicholashewett97911 ай бұрын
Yes. My mind went to what's called direction "in 1." You see that a lot with a faster tempo 3/4 such as a waltz. Composers could more easily write it in 3/8 and direct in compound form and it would turn out the same.
@MusicMattersGB11 ай бұрын
All true but 3/8 is not regarded as a Compound Uno time.
@nicholashewett97910 ай бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB reference Hedwig's Theme from John Williams in the movie Harry Potter. He wrote that in 3/8 and it seems it is definitely directed in a compound uno manner.
@MusicMattersGB10 ай бұрын
It can certainly be performed as such even though 3/8 remains a Simple Triple time signature.
@kieranhumphreys93312 жыл бұрын
did this man just say crotchet beats..... 🤣🤣 great video tho
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
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@yongchaozhao1437 Жыл бұрын
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@MusicMattersGB Жыл бұрын
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@chessematics2 жыл бұрын
We can safely claim that the most popular classical piece is in 3/8 time
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
There are lots of popular classics in various time signatures.
@chessematics2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB ahh I'm talking about Für Elise, that's what brought me into classical.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@veritysprott15472 жыл бұрын
3/4 and 3/8 are the same.
@MusicMattersGB2 жыл бұрын
3/4 has a crotchet beat, 3/8 has a quaver beat. That’s the difference.