The difference between Mouthfill and Frenzel/Reverse packing

[@impartialx7182]

Great video as always Harry! Thanks for sharing!

[@freedivepassion9498]

Your welcome

[@benjaminlender1888]

Awesome video!

[@rpb8256]

I'm so glad I found this channel! you seem really solid and you have so much useful content 💙

[@freedivepassion9498]

Thanks, welcome to the team

[@doodoodoom1]

u r such a good teacher. thank u

[@LaLtheGaL]

Thank you! I was really confused about this. I’m stuck at 28m and I’m pretty sure it’s because I have not learned reverse packing and have been moving air into my mouth, using my abdominal muscles. I also notice, that when doing FRC dives in the pool, I have trouble equalizing. It seems I get stuck when I’m getting close to RV. So I THINK, I need to work on the reverse pack now.

[@freedivepassion9498]

An N charge with good management can get you beyond 60m without learning reverse packing. Even if you get reverse packing, you will then have to switch to mouthfill and unlearn reverse packing to get beyond 40m (in my experience with people who struggle with frenzel)

[@mauriziogiasan4411]

I practice spearfishing and I have difficulty equalizing the ear. despite the numerous surgeries. I am trying to learn new techniques. you are good I hope I succeed by following you to learn the technique Greetings from Italy

[@freedivepassion9498]

Good luck my friend

[@AntiVaganza]

Been away from freediving for a year, but getting back into it so of course I am back on this channel for tips and tricks - and thanks as always for all the content but would you please consider getting a dead cat...? (A furry muffler for your mic). Even if you are just using your phone, you can get stick on dead cats. Or get a small shotgun mic for Vlogging. It's such a small investment which really will help the videos come out even better.

[@LucaFreediver]

Great vid Harry thanks 🙏👌

[@freedivepassion9498]

Thanks

[@juliakozak8962]

Thanks! A lot of useful information and smart attitude. So that mean, that reverse packing is limited? Coz I saw videos where the reverse packing is a "very deep eq techuque"..completely confused now ))🤔 I easily do 40m with reverse packing for years but without progress...so the mouthfill is the way to move? Even thought I am struggling to manage the mouthfill?

[@freedivepassion9498]

Typically people can't reverse pack deeper than 40-50m. Mouthfll will get you deeper almost every time. If you are struggling with mouthfill, check out my website, I offer a course to help with that.

[@juliakozak8962]

@@freedivepassion9498 Thank you for reply, I definitely will check.

[@aleceiabrighton]

Hi! Thanks a lot for your video, it's very clear. Can I ask, with mouthfill, if you use the air your lungs before you reach your RV, when that happens so many meters below, isn't there a risk of damaging your lungs? Thank you.

[@freedivepassion9498]

The lungs can handle extreme reductions in volume so long as you do everything right. This is self evident by all of the super deep dives using mouthfill and without squeeze.

[@alexfinn7989]

My equalization is fine but once I get below 40m i have difficulty. Sometimes it feels like my mouth/tongue is paralyzed and I can’t move my tongue to do the “piston” movement or try to pull the air in tight with cheeks/tongue. Any suggestions or thoughts to help with this? Or is this the depth of my frenzel limit and I have to do mouthfill? Thanks. All your videos are amazing. Excellent job!

[@freedivepassion9498]

Sounds like you could do a lot of work to get a few more meters with frenzel, or switch to mouthfill and get unlimited depth.

[@alexfinn7989]

@@freedivepassion9498 will do! I never thought about it like that. Thanks again for all the great content!

[@slgarrett]

The way I understood it was that as I go deeper on Frenzel, I was automatically reverse packing, but at some point I might need to add a little bit more air consciously as I approached 30m or so by reverse packing. Is that correct? I haven't hit that point yet, but I might soon.

[@freedivepassion9498]

Most people who reverse pack well don't consciously do it. So maybe you will be completely fine. But once equalization starts to become tricky, You will likely need to refine and become conscious of what is happening, until that refinement becomes automated. Sorry if this sounds mysterious.

[@slgarrett]

@@freedivepassion9498 not at all. I’m just looking to clarify what I learned elsewhere doing my Wave 2 course. It’ll be considerably more difficult to have a discussion 20+ m down should I have an issue.

[@sophiebellin3787]

Would it be possible that I'm refilling my mouthfill with reverse pack ?

[@freedivepassion9498]

Yes, many people do this, but it is less affective than a charge

[@marcorombola2365]

How about air load at 15-20 meters, closing the glottis and then doing sequential frenzel (without reverse packing)? How would you call this manouver? Are there any differences between the so called "advanced frenzel" (with 1 open of the e.t.) and mouthfil? Thanks!

[@freedivepassion9498]

This air load frenzel is a way to go deeper for people who don't have the flexibility to reverse pack and haven't yet learned the control to do a full mouthfill. If I works it works, but will never last as long (deep) as a proper mouthfill.

[@jpemonides]

Thank you very much for this very useful video :-)

[@freedivepassion9498]

I'm glad it helped

[@aaron83ification]

My PB is 55m FIM and 50 M BI FIN after 3 months of diving :) so it’s very small chance that I’m using reverse packing with frenzel that should be mouthfill, right?? I’m charging at around 17-20 m

[@freedivepassion9498]

I wouldn't say there is a small chance, I would say that if you haven't had a proper coach teach you MF, there is a high chance that you are using RP (just in my experience, i would have to see you to know).

[@streamooffline6349]

my problem is when the head is facing down can't equalize

[@freedivepassion9498]

You need to figure out your air shift. I do distance eq coaching for this. Email me if your interested