The Differences Between 20, 45 and 90 Minute Quick Set Joint Compound Warsaw, Syracuse and Goshen IN

This is a short video that Matthews’ Painting Company shows all new employees who we train to become professional painters. Enjoy watching The differences between 20, 45 and 90 minute quick set joint compound, ready mix joint compound and lightweight spackle.
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[@nepqmaxinr]

Lil dicky is that you???

[@Matthewspainting]

Frank Serrano Nope, Billy Carrington :)

[@jg8644]

Matthews' Painting Company, LLC Nope -- Lil Dicky for sure.

[@Honda1k]

Lol 😂😂

[@MattHamChasing]

Chuck Norris off wish

[@brandonhough1154]

Great video! Really appreciate the simplicity of it all!

[@Boner1965]

I bought the 20. I am a beginner and wow! Wrong choice. Thanks again for the information. Haha

[@Matthewspainting]

Glad it helped.

[@davidmiller1151]

Thanks, old man .😊the info helped alot 😊😊😊

[@Matthewspainting]

Glad it helped!

[@Swan-rb4yg]

I think you have just answered an art question that I've been trying to solve for over a year. I've been trying to figure out what people use to do dimensional sculpture on walls, and I know from working with gypsum and plaster that it dries too quick. That plus three might just be the ticket! Thank you! And if it's not, knowing that drywall compound has different drying times helps immensely!

[@Matthewspainting]

Plus 3 does not dry as hard as a quick set compound. It can also crack more if you are too think. Good luck on your sculptures. There is a quick set 210 that gives you twice the amount of time as the 90 minute if you want to try that

[@esthershuruggs430]

@@Matthewspainting Thank you so very much for this answer.

[@esthershuruggs430]

Thanks for the question..

[@Matthewspainting]

Thank you Justin. If that was our finished work, I could not agree more.😊 This particular training video is only explaining the differences between joint compounds. The wall behind me was unfinished drywall that was taped and one coated with mud only rather than finishing it out with 3 coats . We use these walls for training on rolling and brushing paint on. Since we are mainly a residential repaint company, we typically are repairing over walls that have already been painted. Painting over these intentional improper repairs have allowed us to practice our drywall repairs over the 1 coated mudded areas that were not completed fully prior to painting. Have a great day!

[@HeavyPilot83]

Excellent description, quick and to the point. Exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks!

[@Matthewspainting]

HeavyPilot83 My pleasure, glad it helped.

[@manuelgonzalez8388]

Have a question, I am in a project right now that I have to do 3 coats in a day with 45 compound, the problem is that many times when I am mixing it dries in half of the time so bucket gets hard so what can I add to the compound so it doesn’t get hard in half of time it’s very frustrating

[@mansfieldcarpentry805]

Best and fastest explanation. Thanks for your help!

[@Matthewspainting]

You bet.

[@elsaint7657]

awesome

[@Matthewspainting]

Hope this helped.

[@clysack07]

Great video.

[@Matthewspainting]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@roncolpo3731]

Great vidio

[@Matthewspainting]

Thank you.

[@FBJRAKO]

Is 20/45/90 needed? I need to fix a couple cracks in a wall

[@JanetJenkins]

This is very useful information. I wish I understood this before I purchased pre-mixed Wallboard Joint compound to do wall repairs before painting. I just read it requires 24 hours dry time before reapplication or painting which is an eternity because I am trying to do some repair work and quickly paint my master bedroom closet.

[@Matthewspainting]

Janet J. Glad to help!

[@atlantajunglepythons1744]

Mercifully short, great content. Do you recommend the powdered compounds for finish use (directly under the wall-primer coat?) Also are they good for songing or dry sanding? Thanks!

[@Matthewspainting]

We like the powdered quick set for all of our wall repairs for all coats. We do not like it for texturing. They are good for sanding, but not sponging. Sheetrock brand seems to sand better than durabond for some however you could try both brands for yourself.

Can you end with essy45? As your top coat or not recommended? I’m not trying to skip steps. I just noticed it hardens nice and I like it If you say go over it with regular joint compound before the painting, let me know Thanks

[@jdkorn22ify]

What if i run out of 45 could i mix 90 and 20 to get a 45ish? 😂

[@bradley1995]

Makes sense to me 🤷‍♂️

[@irischan1158]

Prefect Thank you 🙂

[@Matthewspainting]

My pleasure.

[@santiagodominguez2522]

Can you mix regular and hot mud to aceledad the drying process

[@wumpascott]

You can but with warm/hot water, it'll likely dry on you on your tools before you're done working with it

[@Matthewspainting]

I do not recommend that.

[@santiagodominguez2522]

@@Matthewspainting thank you

[@luv14lyf]

So you can use hot mud to tape joints for 2 or 3 coats? Is Easy Sand 45 or 90 better than regular 45 or 90 hot mud?

[@Matthewspainting]

Yes. 45 or 90 is fine. We like the Easy Sand.

[@ta-shera]

Thank you so much for explaining it cuz the idiots that I work with They got 20 minutes but I have a whole apartment to cover and like you said I'm cleaning the pan more often than not and I told him to get the 45 or the 90 minute cuz I won't be sanding that day I'm just a female doesn't matter I don't know nothing

[@Matthewspainting]

Glad this helped.

[@treslongwell1332]

do you find they all wet sand equally well? I just switched from 20 to 45 and I'm having problems with the set mud eroding badly when wet, even after one or two days curing. Guess I'll go get a bag of good ole 20 minute.

[@Matthewspainting]

I am not sure about wet sanding. I could only guess that the 20, 45, and 90 minute do not wet sand as well and a ready mix mud like Plus 3 or Multi-purpose joint compound.

[@treslongwell1332]

@@Matthewspainting I did not know that ready mix could be wet sanded. Might try it today.

[@jackiemartinez-kaufman846]

thank you this is really helpful I’m a beginner in repairing walls

[@Matthewspainting]

My pleasure Jackie! :)

[@dinaelsherbiny1727]

When I use the ready mix whenever I paint it or put varnish on it cracks how to avoid that please ?

[@Matthewspainting]

Their could be several factors. Make sure the joint compound is dry, sanded and primed prior to painting.

[@dinaelsherbiny1727]

@@Matthewspainting thank you appreciated

[@KevinDurette]

If I've got a small job, with all day to do it, do the different speed compounds produce a different outcome? Is one better than another for strength, fragility, sandability, propensity to form air pockets, etc.?

[@Matthewspainting]

Kevin Durette For a 1 day job or less, I would use the 20 minute. If it sets up too fast for you, go up to 45 minute. The different quick set joint compounds do not necessarily produce significantly different outcomes other than dry time. Air Pockets form due to your joint compound being either too thick and /or not working the compound with a knife back and forth several times with proper pressure to work the air bubbles out. Good luck.

[@willmcpherson1977]

@@Matthewspainting I never knew that you needed to apply pressure to get the air bubbles out. Thanks for the tip!

[@freeandcriticalthinker4431]

Hi Jason, nice channel you have. Hey question for you, I am just finishing skim coating my wall I want to paint. I was planning on using the Zinsser Bin regular shelac primer. How long do I need to wait to prime after the last coat of air dry compound, and then how long after primer would you suggest I wait to paint? Thanks

[@Matthewspainting]

BIN is not necessary unless you have severe smoke staining. 1 day after last application of quick set joint compound is plenty of time. You can paint over primer pretty quickly. Follow label directions, but typically a couple hours is plenty of time.

[@freeandcriticalthinker4431]

@@Matthewspainting cool! Thanks so much for your time explaining! Cheers

[@nathanbroomfield4953]

I have a brand called CertainTeed Lite Sand Plus 90. My first time using quick set plaster and my first time mixing it from dry. When I made a batch today I could not get the clumps out, even added more water and couldn't. Any tips?

[@user-cf1se1kk5x]

You have to add clean water gradually to the mix, kind of like baking.

[@nathanbroomfield4953]

I figured it out after a while, gotta add the plaster to the water, not water to the plaster. If that makes sense lol

[@DavySTUN]

@@nathanbroomfield4953 It happens to most newcomers, dont feel alone. if you ad a little at time, sporadiaclly , wait for each pile to sink under water, and then keep adding, make pile on top, then wait till sinks, over n over, eventually it wont sink anymore, and thats about when you can start mixing. the more its agitated, the quicker it cures/drys. just aanother lil. trick some do, avoids measuring.

[@Matthewspainting]

Watch my video on mixxing quick set joint compound. I have found if you do not add enough water throughout the entire mixing process you will get chunks. In other words, do not let it get clumpy or dry once you start adding water.

[@UEGUnequaled]

What a world, who would have thought I would come across this video and they guy is from Warsaw.

[@Matthewspainting]

Roger, thats your bogey! :)

[@paulradice3534]

Never drys quickly, ever.

[@felipea1844]

Sir, thank you for the brief presentation.

[@Matthewspainting]

Most welcome!

[@psycobone1]

I use plus 3 for everything .I'm going to dry the dry mix 20 today yo repair walls with the hot water trick.

[@Nlong2112]

Thank you so much

[@tannerbrown1845]

I am looking for a job. I have done drywall before. Anyway to reach out to you?

[@Matthewspainting]

Tanner you can apply right on our website at www.matthewspainting.com/

[@stickshaker101]

I'm thinking of filing a class action suit for them using the name Easy Sand if anybody wants in.

[@Matthewspainting]

Not so easy to sand is it. Try 90. It sand pretty decent. Keep your coats thin, and your edges feathered.

[@FBJRAKO]

Electric hand sander bro , is a life saver

[@crankfotton]

so much respect for these guys. drywall and paint makes me want to die!

[@AverageGabriel]

I just found you through google when I was searching this stuff up.. thought I got normal sand at home depot to put in my BOB punching bag tank but.. guess I'll just add water now.

[@Matthewspainting]

Glad this helped.

[@stefanijaharris7566]

Thank you. It cleared up my confusion.

[@Matthewspainting]

Stefanija Harris My pleasure

[@swav100]

What about plus 3 whats the working time for it?

[@Matthewspainting]

You will empty your pan before it ever sets up.

[@wwfera00]

You can use plus 3 for walls too. Works great.

[@Matthewspainting]

Sure does.

[@MK-ih6wp]

So Fast Set 5 sets up in 5 mins?! Thats crazy fast!

[@Matthewspainting]

Yes it is. 5 minute mud is hard to sand though. We are not fans of it unless we use if for 1st coat only.

[@وردانالنادر]

Director, can I use 90 to apply some thickness? Is it solid? Can I mix colors with it or on top of it? I want a material close to Venetian plaster. What do you advise me? Thank you for everything you provide.

[@Matthewspainting]

I have no experience mixing colors with this joint compound.

[@citythink]

Am I the only one who can see the line in the wall running from your shoulder? Did you do that taping? Not trying to be too critical here but if you’re training how to do great taping, you may want to use a wall that doesn’t have an apparent flaw.

[@Matthewspainting]

This is just a training area. :)

[@Romulan112]

I have a lot of screw pops to fix. Can I use the 90 min. mudd compound only? Someone said that hot mudd doesnt take paint too well. Said to top it with plus 3. Do you agree?

[@Matthewspainting]

90 minute is fine. You can use any quick set or ready mix joint compound. Primer or paint sticks just fine.

[@lawofattractionc61]

thank you sir

[@Matthewspainting]

lawofattractionc6 My pleasure

[@Boner1965]

Thank you.

[@Matthewspainting]

You're welcome!

[@davidbarnett6931]

bro that outlet cutout is making me cringe

[@wellcraft2136]

Ditto here, good eye!

[@Matthewspainting]

That was just drywall hung over OSB for training purposes in our shop. :)

[@avivakapust6249]

Can I use Premixed Lightweight Drywall Joint Compound instead of 40 min quick set joint compound (the kind you have to mix) to key in wood lathe ceiling?

[@Matthewspainting]

I am not sure what that tis Aviva.

[@lukas______]

Do you use Plus 3 after a tape coat of hot mud?

[@Matthewspainting]

You can use Plus 3 over hot mud, but never use if for 1st coat over fiberglass tape.

[@tomorrowstools2159]

Try a MixBall to mix Quickset! 🔵👍🔵

[@fredneal3798]

Aau

[@Matthewspainting]

Thank you.

[@richardjefferson2445]

👍

[@Matthewspainting]

Thanks for the thumbs up!

[@yoleeisbored]

can this be used to repair a bedroom wall? is this safe to use in a children's bedroom? is it toxic when dry? thann you

[@Matthewspainting]

Those are great questions and I have never been asked that. When sanding your patch work, it would not be good for a child to be in the room and you yourself should be wearing a 3M N95 dust mask. As for the question about the compound being toxic, you would have to call the company. Rarely does anyone leave a patch unprimed or unpainted. For your peace of mind, prime the your patch work as soon as it is dry and sanded. If you have concerns about toxins, I would use primers and paints that are 0 VOC or extremely low VOC like Natura from Benjamin Moore and Harmony from Sherwin Williams. Hope this helps

[@perelman42]

Short answer: Easysand is good stuff for repairing walls, yes it's safe, and nontoxic when dry. Once cured, this stuff is pretty inert. It's plaster of paris and very fine sand.. nasty stuff to inhale as a powder, and plaster of paris that isn't cured can be bad to ingest (it will literally set IN the digestive tract) so the uncured powder is not something you want kids or pets eating a bunch of. And of course, when mixing or sanding wear an N95 or higher mask, then wipe up the dust with a moist cloth or HEPA vac.

[@TheDkd6]

awesome info thx!!

[@Matthewspainting]

My pleasure.

[@jaredrubink]

Can I roll it on a ceiling for texture over plaster and do I need primer first?

[@Matthewspainting]

Jared Rubink I would not roll a ceiling with the quick set easy sand products because they set up too quickly, I would use the Plus 3 ready mix. You will want to add some water into the Plus 3 in a 5 gallon bucket and use a stirring paddle on a drill for mixing. If the plaster has a glossy paint on it, I would use a bonding and blocking primer like Smart Prime from Zinnser. If not, then you do not need a primer unless it is extremely porous. In that case you can go ahead and prime it just to be safe.

[@Ethiokarate1]

"Hi I'm Lil Dicky, and today we talk drywall compound"

[@Matthewspainting]

Lol! Someone else said I look like him too, and Billy Carrington! :)

[@michaeldeleon8509]

what do you think about mixing plus 3 with the 20 or 45 minute together for corner bead and angle finishing

[@JenkinsStevenD]

Did you try it? Kind of want to know how that turned out. I would expect, since it is a chemical reaction, for the material to become unworkable before the 10 minute mark because the plus 3 would begin hardening but I suppose it would depend if you went light enough with the plus 3......maybe. I would rather just use the same stuff without mixing though.

[@mrooker5367]

A mix of sheet rock easy sand can be used with a premixed compound on corners if you want to add more flexibility. It will prolong dry times a lot. Usually recoating will need to be done following day, in my experience working in a higher humidity environment

[@Matthewspainting]

I do not recommend that.

[@billythekid7090]

I wish they made 10minute it would be perfect. By the time you clean your pan and knife it would be ready for another coat plus it gives you more time for more patches

[@Matthewspainting]

Thanks Amanda for mentioning that. If you use really hot water in the 20 minute joint compound, it basically is like a 10 minute. The joint compound only has to be hard to re-coat, not completely dry looking. I usually will take my drywall knife and run it over my first coat once it hardens to knock down any raised areas prior to 2nd coating. Happy Mudding! :)

[@joeb578]

There's a five minute.

[@ahmadwalidanwary8914]

Do I need to prime quick set 90?

[@Matthewspainting]

walid chardewal Yes, prime with a latex primer like Ultra Spec from Benjamin Moore or Pro Mar 200 from Sherwin Williams.

[@tpatschorke]

Great simple video!!

[@Matthewspainting]

Glad it was helpful. There is also a 5 minute mud if you have something small and need it to set up faster yet.

[@ivy4559]

Thank you!

[@Matthewspainting]

You bet!

[@JenEricRalston]

Thank you for this vid! I sat staring at the options, and left empty handed. 🤣

[@Matthewspainting]

My pleasure

[@bigbawsz2054]

So with easy 20 you can sand within 20 to 30 min with a fan on it?

[@Matthewspainting]

Hmmm…maybe if you had a fan right on it. We use a hair dryer to accelerate drying as ell, however easy sand 20 drying by itself may not be ready to sand for an hour or more.

[@joekidd2211]

Good video, Thanks for the explantion

[@Matthewspainting]

joekidd2211 My pleasure

[@MikeHunt-qu6ef]

Shout out to lil dicky

[@Matthewspainting]

Mike Hunt LOL!!! I get that sometimes, or Billy Currington ! :)

[@MikeHunt-qu6ef]

You should do a promo video of you rapping accept about drywall would be amazing.

[@paulatiredofthisshit]

I don't know, what is the difference between 5 minute, 20 minute, 45 minute.... once you know they are minutes drying time, it's obvious.

[@paulatiredofthisshit]

I mean, the word minute is in the video title.

[@TobiasRaphael1]

Actually, it is the setting time, not drying time. Setting means that it is cured (hard) enough to apply another coat. It still takes longer to dry though, as the powder is mixed with water, and that water has to evaporate before finishing.

[@Matthewspainting]

Thank you for clarifying that.

[@bigdogkropp]

I just used Esay Sand 90. I was surprised by the amount of shrinkage as it dried. Does the Easy Sand 20 and 45 has less shrinkage?

[@Matthewspainting]

If you are using any joint compound over deep dents or holes, the 1st coat will shrink quite a bit. 2- 3 thin coats are recommended on most repairs.