The Direction of The Hockey Industry in the Next 5 Years

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[@charlesjohnson166]

Played mn high hockey1982 class.sherwood pmp hockey stick 12 bucks for game stick..

[@ih8jeeps]

It doesn't need to be that much. My family member made it through prep hockey right from 13 years old to 17 years old for under 20,000 a year. This includes everything including small class sizes. We chose a program locally so no billiting. That's a lot, but not much more than aaa. I believe aaa was about 15,000 but no where near as much travel, lower quality education, less ice and I don't think as good coaching. He got through that then on to the bchl. $2,500 all included. No additional fee's. We have to buy gear but sticks and team wear are free. He's in a good bchl program now. We're very happy.

[@cglasford1]

Honestly your last point is very sad. The privatization of youth sports is trash and making sports unachievable for many people. This will most likely cause a massive decline in youth participation in hockey outside of maybe a few select states like MN that work hard to keep the sport as affordable as possible.

[@shawndeclair7038]

"Costs quite a bit of money" / "Costs will increase" - these things are said with such certainty yet don't the very producers of this video stand to profit from this model? And make no mistake about it, it is a model. Countries like Sweden and Finland punch far above their (population) weight and hockey costs a fraction of what it does in North America. Let the money grab continue...

[@cglasford1]

yeah it's stupid. like everything in the US it's all about making money. This shift to privatization of youth sports is stupid. gone, at least for now, are the days of Rec/city/house leagues for all sports except for the very youngest but I mean they are not starting "AAA" travel programs at U8. I don't even really remember that being a thing until U12 or maybe even U14. It is so sad. Sports in generally are quickly becoming a rich man's game and hockey being one of the worst.

[@MrGamman3yt]

Hockey is demographically doomed. Swiss/swe ? Models, free (ish) until u15/u13 (?). CSSHL schools are 30k/yr AAA are 15k/yr. Western canadian pricing. Us prep schools (ive heard 60k). ? D1 tuition.

[@yanpengguo7254]

Unfortunately what he says about the cost is true, and it will kill this sports eventually in North America. Just see how Europeans are thriving in NBA right now.

[@cglasford1]

@@yanpengguo7254 yep, unfortunately that is what it might take to bring back affordable hockey. The privatization of youth sports is garbage. its just a money grab and forcing almost all sports to become a rich mans game.

[@dylanrobertson7438]

@@cglasford1 I wouldn't call it a "money grab". CSSHL teams offer significantly more than a local AAA team in Western Canada including the most important component: Ice time. You skate every day for a longer period of time training with and against players with the same ambitions. "US Prep Schools" are not just hockey academy's like the CSSHL, they are private schools. You only play 25 games and its more designed to make you a well versed athlete (most require you to play 2-3 sports) and prepare you for college with a solid HS education. But that has always been a niche market. Schools aren't growing in the NE prep league. Hockey academies are different. I actually disagree with the video in the regards that you have to spend money to be successful. Does it help? For sure, can't hurt. But if that were the case, where player talent comes from would be more spread out. Instead, most of the NHL talent is filled with players from Canada, Minnesota, Michigan, Mass, Russia, Sweden and Finland. All places that have 1 thing in common among others: Winter. Kids growing up in these places get FREE ice time in the winter with lakes, ponds, hell some have them in their backyard. Thats what you need to take advantage of. You don't need to pay someone for a "summer plan" at 11-14 years old. You can do private lessons/hockey camps twice a week and shoot pucks in your drive way for less than a $750 a summer. Vs paying someone $750 to tell you to do those things lol.

[@cglasford1]

@@dylanrobertson7438 exactly. Perhaps money grab isn’t the correct term but it is unnecessary, but because parents feel that that is the only way for their kids to get exposure and to get better, they are inherently increasing the cost of playing hockey. I live in Minnesota and I spent $10,000 a year for Hockey my son will probably be playing every single day. I just am not a fan of the current state of hockey in the US. The cost is doing no benefit to the growth of the sport. Imho the best model is the MN model which is community association based and high school hockey.

[@dylanrobertson7438]

@@cglasford1 $10,000 in Minnesota?? On what if you don't mind me asking? I played at Saint Mary's down in Winona and a lot of my teammates were Minnesota guys who used to say the costs were relatively cheap considering travel isn't much and ice time is available in spades, reducing costs. At the high school level, outside of the guys who went to St. Thomas, the rest were paying $250-500 to play public high school hockey. I agree though it is the best model in the US but it's not feasible in non-traditional hockey markets where hockey is the 4th maybe 5th most popular sports and not enough good athletes play it. I think where the AAA model can take a page out of MN is forcing kids to play in their "district" until they are 16 that way kids aren't running around the country stacking AAA programs who offer nothing more than any other AAA program outside of maybe a better coach. It would help increase local talent and thus teams would not have to travel as far to play consistently good competition.

[@modernman7576]

Major junior players keeping their ncaa eligibility would really saturate college hockey.

[@JustinSmith-bn3ds]

Honestly the only league who benifits from it is the CHL. U sports takes the biggest hit. All the Jr leagues that feed the NCAA lose big time. And the NCAA also loses. Players would end up playing out their Jr elidgibilty to get the full CHL scholarship package, which would make the play on the ice in the NCAA better but they would lose all their future NHLers, and thats what the market in the NCAA is for. Theres very little American market for 22-26 year old players who missed the nhl by hair. And late blooming players get the worst of it because there is now no league they can legitimately get noticed in. Which will eventually make the NHL slightly worse by losing those players. All in all everyone except the NCAA’s biggest rival lose

[@modernman7576]

@JustinSmith-bn3ds you're totally correct. I do believe that the chl scholarships are only for Canadian universities but I could be wrong.

[@JustinSmith-bn3ds]

@@modernman7576 i know from s friend that they are only full if they’re Canadian universities but the commercial where they brag about it they say “North American” so im assuming they get the AVG Canadian tuition price if they go to the U.S and then pay the difference or something but given the NCAA offers more full rides than any U sport division except the AUS (and RESQ only for Quebec born players) they’ll still come out ahead of U sport. It could backfire though, the ones who don’t get full ride offers in the NCAA might draw their teammates to stay in Canada and the NCAA might be completely screwed. I doubt that will happen, either way though it will create a product the NCAA has no ability to market

[@modernman7576]

@JustinSmith-bn3ds ok gotcha. Ya I don't think it would be good for the ncaa at all.

[@markhealy3595]

Sound like a potential opportunity for a league to compete with NCAA. Not all CHL players will be able to be student athletes.... I would say more will NOT be able to be students. Would kill USHL however.

[@668771]

Any chance I could get your opinion on the FSL (female super league). My daughter has been asked to play for one of the academies, its U14 so she is still young and quite expensive for us due to the travel. $35k all in, for us thats a lot. The academy is pushing that its an investment into her future, Im torn as she would have to also move 5 hours away. Girls hockey is SO unknown.

[@juiceybrucey3475]

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[@carlgao1711]

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