THE DIRTIEST FIGHTING STYLE TO EVER EXIST - Can you guess what it is!!??

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Inside Fighting

Inside Fighting

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@renehinojosa1962
@renehinojosa1962 Жыл бұрын
Trained with Vunak for a few years and KM really added a lot to the ground game. Initially, when I was introduced to KM I had no idea that there was actually a method behind biting but I quickly lesrned how intricate it really is. Rather enjoyed this upload and your commentary behind it.
@theultimatek.i.m.m1504
@theultimatek.i.m.m1504 Жыл бұрын
1800s American Virginian Rough and Tumble is the grittiest and most dirty fighting method I've ever read about. That said, I've read and heard the same said about both 52 Hand Blocks and the Brazilian Capoeira (as it was done in the 1800s). I've also been told that Wing Chun fighters from the Yip Man lineage were, at one time, frowned upon and called " just a bunch of dirty street fighters". (Yes. You heard me. Wing Chun. Wong Shun Leung, Duncan Leung, Lee Jun Fan, etc. THAT generation of tough boys seemed to have been the one being referred to.)
@anthonyalbertkilgrengutier7278
@anthonyalbertkilgrengutier7278 Жыл бұрын
Rough and Tumble a.k.a. Gouging. Same could apply to Kina Motai.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Very close. I’m actually doing a video on that soon
@nytrodralyg1860
@nytrodralyg1860 Жыл бұрын
I read about Rough and Tumble in the Boxing Manual from Colonel Monstery.
@azechase6597
@azechase6597 Жыл бұрын
I actually borrowed some knuckle busting type techniques from that style I think. Hammer fisting people hands etc.
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 Жыл бұрын
At 1:15 that's Lee Morrison from URBAN COMBATIVES. Sorry, he is in a class of his own, he should not be here used to advertise another system, but his own. He's at the very top, if not the best in self-defense. Get to know of him in the case you don't. The reason that guy did not eye gouge you even though his hand was on your face was because he lacked real intent; he could have done so easily if his hand was so close. Only if a participator or student has an issue with you would he attempt to damage you, all the rest will fake their own intent, but to their shame. I totally agree of course with using biting. Both of those guys know are classics, they know what they're talking about. -Good video, just that Lee Morrison picture should be edited out; it's not right.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. Isn’t lee Morison from Urban combative? I’ve heard him talk a lot before and i thought he took part of his biting system from kinamutai
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 Жыл бұрын
@@inside_fighting I don't get it, why are you asking me that? I already said that he's from Urban Combatives. Did you read my whole message? Even so, using his picture, is not right as I pointed out. -I do not know if he took it from kinamutai but I figure that biting someone if you have to seems normal for self-defense and anyone can think about it on his own. That is, I don't think you need a system to become aware of it or teach you it. The fact though that kinamutai has that kind of thinking is a sensible thing. PS. Lee Morrison has a biting system?? Does it matter how many teeth you have? Regardless, I can only trust dentists for such issues. (Just joking 🤣😂🤣)
@baldieman64
@baldieman64 Жыл бұрын
@@inside_fighting I believe that Lee has a background that includes FMA, and while you can occasionally see it with concepts like clearing the line and "caveman trapping", it's not explicitly part of the system. Lee's older videos are great, as is the material from his student on the "URBAN COMBATIVES NETHERLANDS" channel.
@JustSomeGuy69420
@JustSomeGuy69420 8 ай бұрын
According to google, the average human bite force is 162 pounds per square inch. Now consider that the biting surface of a tooth is absolutely not even close to an inch in surface area, and you've got a mouth full of knives basically.
@shidoin5398
@shidoin5398 Жыл бұрын
I had a kid in my neighborhood growing up. Much taller and fat. We used to fight. One day he laid his fat ass belly over my head. I couldn't breathe. I bit him and took a large chunk out of his side. He ran home screaming and had to get stitches. Never underestimate the power of real street fighters, there is no tap out
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Oh yea… he won’t do that again 😅
@pinealglandiator4758
@pinealglandiator4758 Жыл бұрын
Man, we had a playground bully, where i grew up, also fat! As fat as mean! I wi'll never get the smell of his breath out of my head ( He smelled of a certain type of sausage, typical to my region of origin, which thanks to him i can't stand to this day! Anyways, one day i finally understood, that he's going to do to me, what he did anyways, so i might as well fight back ( I was much smaller and younger than him, and this was far from obvious to me, untill i was fed up and fear turned into rage) I somehow clawed my hand into his face, which was a simple reaction to his overwhelming mass and strength, also i'n not sure if i even knew the word fighting yet, cause, like mentioned, i was still really young and small.. It caused him a nose bleed and he started to cry. I don't know to what parts of his face i actually caused any damage, except the nose bleed, but every bully is a little pussy inside, so it might just have been the fact, that i wouldn't take any of his abusive shit anymore, that made him cry. Of course he ran hone and came back with his mom 😂 Our parents must have dealt with it somehow. He never harassed me again after that, except with the disgusting menory of his sausage breath 🤢
@laperrablanca1
@laperrablanca1 Жыл бұрын
It's returning to basic fighting instincts. Most animals, including great apes, our nearest relatives, bite when fighting, being that one their most powerful and deadly weapon. In "Enter the Dragon", Roper bites Bolo thus turning the table and winning the fight. A powerful, dangerous, and under rated weapon in our civilized world
@connorperrett9559
@connorperrett9559 Жыл бұрын
If it's your absolute last resort then sure, bite...but I'd rather just carry a knife or firearm in case I have to use lethal force than risk getting some violent criminal's blood all over my mouth by biting them. God knows what they have in their bloodstream.
@zibtihaj3213
@zibtihaj3213 Жыл бұрын
Martial arts were not meant to compensate for guns … so that is not a good argument Now you should be able to hand to hand fight … knives and guns etc etc … all different disciples put together … plus the transitions…
@acquiesce100
@acquiesce100 Жыл бұрын
In 2006 Paul Vunak changed my life. I quite all my traditional martial arts to study with him. Best training ever... Period. End of. He taught me the same system he taught to the US Navy Seals. Absolutely loved the kino Mutai he taught me. He learnt it from John Lacose, one of only two people. I just giggle when I see and hear all the youtubers who think they are wannabe street fighters. Compared to Vunak they are NOTHING. Vunak's training absolutely changed me in all areas of my life. I love him. He's the best!!
@michaeljovan3836
@michaeljovan3836 Жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson approves!😂 Seriously, thank you, I was glued to this! 🙏👍
@thomasotto8693
@thomasotto8693 3 ай бұрын
Yeah,that sh... really works...!Both Vulnak and Olivera come from JKD- Use EVERYTHING that works in a streetfight,no bell,no tap-out,AND people around you just "enjoy the show",as we have seen in one of your shorts...!A nasty world makes you nasty...!Sad but true...! 😁😔
@rodgerbane3825
@rodgerbane3825 Жыл бұрын
Good old country style, Southern US, Rough and Tumble. Paused at 20 seconds. Described in "A boy named Sue". "Well, maybe I've fought tougher men, but I really can't remember when, he kicked like a mule and he bit like a crocodile" "We fell into the street, kickin' and a gougin in the mud and the blood and the beer".
@NMIBUBBLE
@NMIBUBBLE Жыл бұрын
Kino Mutai! Yep Paul vunak great instructor! Bruce, DAN, PAUL! Yes sir! A lighter works pretty well too. LOL FYI! ur welcome. LOL
@fennec812
@fennec812 Жыл бұрын
I have zero proof but have always sensed this sort of thing probably is at least partially a result of commercialization. Someone probably looked at the skill subset of gouging/scraping/etc. and thought if they packaged that separate from the main system, it would be a distinct enough identity to sell on its own. I also generally think this kind of process occurs when you get someone unusually good at that subset of skills who doesn’t need to rely on the mainline stuff as much. The problem is they are usually a freak of nature and students will spend generations trying to recreate what they did even though it’s not really something they can recreate on a massive scale. That original person was “just right” to make their very weird, personal method work. There’s also the lost in translation type issue too. It seems to me that the best example of that is probably in Japanese kata where, presumably, what was being taught was once common knowledge now has to be interpreted because we just sort of “forgot.” Or, in the case of Karate, the whole grappling component when it moved to the main islands of Japan just got sliced off because, again, they wanted it to have a distinct identity as compared to things like Judo. People get really caught up in the pure effectiveness of systems and assume these things rise and fall in a closed, rawly Darwinistic ecosystem where only the “best” stuff survives. But really martial arts can evolve for a lot of reasons beyond just fighting prowess… economics, politics, cultural shifts, etc. all play a role in how things change. The fundamental problem is that some things shouldn’t be plucked out from their mother system. Or, if they are, once they have been honed to a high level, necessarily need to be re-inserted into the proper context. It doesn’t make those sub-skills “worse,” (which I think is the popular narrative), they just need to be trained properly.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Wow really amazing insight.
@barrysmith1202
@barrysmith1202 10 ай бұрын
i recognized morrison from the youtube lineup picture; but i never thought-of his training as a MA. def nasty stuff.
@TemplarHammer
@TemplarHammer Жыл бұрын
Southern Rough and Tumble. It was a form of unarmed dueling based on wrestling from the Old South, where fighters would bascially try to maim each other. Some of them sharpened their teeth and nails. Unfortunately, most of its practitioners were illiterate.
@PaulMormando
@PaulMormando Жыл бұрын
Great Great Channel and especially great video on Kino Mutai!! As a Senior Instructor under Sifu Paul Vunak and a Brown Belt In BJJ, Your representation and explanations were spot on!!!
@itsonlyrocknroll12
@itsonlyrocknroll12 Жыл бұрын
Southern Praying mantis, eg chow Gar tong long can get quite dirty and downright nasty. Depends on where and who you train with and all that of course.
@johnl2648
@johnl2648 Жыл бұрын
In the Philippines "kinamutay" is a Visayan word (not Tagalog) that is usually meant as "eating with your hands." If you use that word here that is what people will understand it as. So "kinamutay ta" means "let's eat with our hands."
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Eat humans 😅
@johnl2648
@johnl2648 Жыл бұрын
@@inside_fighting Works even when you're making love, not war!
@ethancarter5568
@ethancarter5568 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! Really surprised at this obvious yet very effective defensive method, more so how it seems to be ignored by many adults (including me before this video). Which is weird as my 3 year old currently does occasionally resort to biting during some playful wrestling (maybe he's secretly training with Vunak :) Seems to be ingrained response that we have during childhood yet later we write biting off as a childish act. When really, it can be extremely useful.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Ask your kid for private lessons 😅
@ethancarter5568
@ethancarter5568 Жыл бұрын
@Inside Fighting Nah, he's way too hardcore 😆🤣
@bmledoux
@bmledoux Жыл бұрын
Rough and tumble like… also this mentality makes sense when you look at legit ww2 combatives… the innovators used gouges, eye pokes, groin strikes, throat grabs and rips etc… but they all had a solid base in a solid sparring/combat martial art like judo, wrestling, boxing, hard style karate… and the brutal techniques supplement them
@ravdobikjarb93
@ravdobikjarb93 Жыл бұрын
Kung Fu San Soo… They bite, gouge, hit them family jewels (a lot, claw, rip, twist…), fish hook, lots of neck strikes (and grabs), striking first, and translates to knife attacks (just attacking no defending). But, it’s a non sparring off shoot of Choy Li Fut, so it may not impress. And, I’m wrong. You get five points. They are worthless points, but still five points for the win!
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
I’ll take those points my good man 💪🏼🙏🏼
@ravdobikjarb93
@ravdobikjarb93 Жыл бұрын
@@inside_fighting Use them wisely. 😂
@jimthetooth123
@jimthetooth123 Жыл бұрын
I agree that san soo is a brutal combat art. I studied a lot of arts but san soo is my bread and butter style. We learn all our body weapons and all the targets. Every technique is directed to vital areas(eyes,throat,temple,groin spine,knees etc..) and finishing moves. It is good to be pressure tested and that's why i studied other arts. But believe me, training under Dave Carter and later at Jimmy H. Woo's there were plenty of guys to pressure test you.
@johndyer2179
@johndyer2179 Жыл бұрын
From New Zealand. Great analysis. Two thumbs up. Paul Vunak for a long time the holy grail of combative arts in the realistic setting. Nice to have featured Salvatorre Oliva as I have come across his name as one of the best in Europe. Your off-the-grid exposition is truly cutting edge.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching it
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Yes he’s very brutal and probably under follower
@peterrusznak6165
@peterrusznak6165 Жыл бұрын
I basically agree with everything you say. With one exception, namely "kinomutai teaches you'. Taking the right position do needs to be taught, biting itself is quite self-explenatory. Biting, eye gouging are very-very simple. No 'teaching' required. Every person can, assuming they are in the right mindset. Even children, drunk people, mentally disabled people, very-very disturbed people can. I would even say the more mental the guy is, the more dangerous the bite itself (not the position).
@Whosyourdaddy21
@Whosyourdaddy21 Жыл бұрын
Yeah biting is pretty self explanatory this is more about when you should do those things and more importantly when you shouldn’t.
@mgtowproperties
@mgtowproperties Жыл бұрын
well we all know what happened to Steven Seagal when he said to Judo Gene Labelle When he said you can choke me out
@alextop1850
@alextop1850 Жыл бұрын
Should interview Paul volnek
@azechase6597
@azechase6597 Жыл бұрын
What's very scary about this is now yout grappling which may be your best technique, becomes a liability bc you are now more vulnerable in it than out of it. Ironically making standing and striking preferable.
@spookyninja4098
@spookyninja4098 Жыл бұрын
Lee Morrison Urban Combatives
@archangel98632
@archangel98632 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your open-mindedness and detailed appreciation of the many martial arts around the world/through time. I've been thoroughly enjoying your videos since I found your channel. I learned a family-system of arnis when I was very young. It does not really have a name; it was just "our arnis." And the Lolo who taught me indeed instructed me on biting! I had NO IDEA it was called kinamutai until today! Couple tidbits on biting from our family arnis: jaw muscles are strong, but neck muscles are STRONGER. So even if you cannot fully close on a chunk of opponent, merely a light bite and then thrashing the head back and forth uses the edges of teeth to shred someone's arm or pec or neck nicely. Similarly, remember the jaw muscles only close the mandible (bottom jawbone); top teeth and canines are "stationary".... unless you "bite" with the neck (motion like front headbutt). The idea is to use neck strength to sink the top teeth/canines and then scoop outwards, or shred side to side. Finally, if you are a fan of dim sum, eating chicken feet is a great way to "practice" biting finger joints apart. Thank you for your dedication to the arts and training, and I look forward to ever learning more from you!
@RocheBrazil
@RocheBrazil Жыл бұрын
All and any martial art can be made most brutal ONCE and ONLY ONCE you've studied it, learned it, know it extremely well, live and practice it DAILY, embodying it and are willing to use it as if you've never been taught it with no formality nor humanity nor restraint. But with control - that's the art. But I think that this will come down to the individual practitioner. You'll get to utilize whatever you're willing to put into it for use. You're the Artist. The only one limiting your art is you. Now! Having said all that. I'd check out a book by Forrest Morgan called Living the Martial Way. That book is a real eye opener and a potential game changer. Once you've read it you'll start to see why I've made this statement and feel adamantly about it.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Will check it out!
@dababy4182
@dababy4182 Жыл бұрын
This is gonna be random but my Chinese friend told me theres a martial art in China called Mad Dog Kenpo, which is a self defense system and philosophy that teaches whatever goes and always carry a surgical scissor & a small bag of sand with u to blind ur opponent...cant find any video online but that sounds extreme.... He showed me a video and i couldnt decide if it was bs or legit. They are taught to yell like rabid dogs during fights, and focus on groin strikes, eye gouging and even playing dead/injured to find windows of opportunity. The lack of sparring footages (not sure how you can spar with that ruleset) did make me have doubts
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
I need to see this 😅
@dababy4182
@dababy4182 Жыл бұрын
@@inside_fighting kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJKZk3SladSAmbc this was the one I watched...no captions unfortunately. Plz dont laugh😂
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
@@dababy4182 😅😅😅 that video is something
@NickKano11
@NickKano11 Жыл бұрын
Me at the start of the video: are these people serious? Me at the end of the video: holy fuck these people are legitimately dangerous
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Hahahha it almost seems like satire though i agree 😂
@alextop1850
@alextop1850 Жыл бұрын
Great vid 2nd time watching but sinks in wow only certain grappling moves would work🧠 this why I like urban combatives think should do a vid like see how you compare the system vs all martial art knowledge you have
@jamesoneill8901
@jamesoneill8901 Жыл бұрын
Not sure which I like best, the vaguely Southpark-esque intro or the excellent, realistic take on the subject matter 🤔
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
These are the questions 🤔🤔😘
@DanTheWolfman
@DanTheWolfman Жыл бұрын
Lol...let's go to pool halls, snort some party favors, and randomly feral dog bite everyone we can start fights with.....oh wait...
@AnthonyLauder
@AnthonyLauder Жыл бұрын
I saw a video about "chimpanese style kung fu" a few years ago. It was outdoor, in a very basic looking environment. The students were training to go crazy. It was not nice and acrobatic like in movies. Rather, then went into full-on crazy mode and were biting, scratching, gouging, and doing whatever it took at high speed and full fury to maim the enemy in a gruesome way. Never saw such realistic looking fighting before in a kung fu training video.
@oceanberserker
@oceanberserker 8 ай бұрын
Got a link or a title to drop?
@thallescastellani317
@thallescastellani317 Жыл бұрын
Paul Vunak is responsible for the birth of many combatives and street martial arts. He inspired many krav maga instructors, Urban Combatives, Carlos Hermanos, Libre and I bet that even US Army SOCP has something of his ideas. Truly game changer in the world of martial arts. I only considered biting as a viable tool when I read Baki Hanma hahahaha What a shame.
@joerobaina3893
@joerobaina3893 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this video of yours is a full of pearls of hard to find wisdom about REAL self defense. My father taught me many of these concepts and techniques which he had learned from his father who was a wrestler in Europe (he wrestled underground for money). The real issue with being able to apply any of these techniques is “mindset”! You have to be willing, and able to be fierce, to inflict damage, without hesitation or remorse. Once you can pass that threshold, you find all sorts of new opportunities that even those with decades of training in traditional martial arts and sports fighting are not aware of. But street and jail fighters, that’s all they know and they will employ these tactics instinctively. That’s the lesson I learned from my father when I came home frustrated after not being able to defeat a street punk even though I was fast, strong, tough and well trained. He had never offered to teach me as I put all my time and effort on strength, endurance, hardening and martial arts. Until he saw me ready to really start learning. It could have been worse. I could have taken a knife or brick to the head or any other number of deadly attacks before he had a chance to teach me. Bottom line, you are 100% correct about your observations from this video. Except that these techniques are not uniquely Filipino in origin. It would be my humble observation and comment that Filipino styles are effective because they were conquered by multiple cultures throughout history. And, within every defeat, there can be a lesson. And learn they did. These grappling techniques, the gouges, bites, etc are as old as time itself. They are practices that can be found to be employed as far back as fighting was documented in any way and our bodies, strengths and weaknesses have not changed much thought time as our anatomy has not changed much so what worked then, still works now. Thank you for posting your videos though. As a life long practitioner of fighting arts, I truly enjoy your comparisons and observations.
@warlord2pfa
@warlord2pfa Жыл бұрын
You speak the truth. Those old school grapplers were well versed in biting,gouging,fish hooks, pniches,etc,etc. This is what in fighting was all about. Along with head butts,knees,elbows,shoulder and hip checks. It does however,take a different mindset and fir that reason it can be very off-putting to most martial artists and traditionally taught fighters.
@joerobaina3893
@joerobaina3893 Жыл бұрын
@@warlord2pfa Exactly! That’s what separates martial arts from self defense and self defense from combat (fighting with controlled abandon to disable, maim or kill as necessary, no fucks given).
@Ed7501
@Ed7501 Жыл бұрын
First to come to mind is this Filipino MA that emphasizes biting. I don't know if it's Yaw Yan or not... maybe not.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
So close!
@jamesoneill8901
@jamesoneill8901 Жыл бұрын
Exactly dude.
@peterbrennan393
@peterbrennan393 Жыл бұрын
it;s funny, when you add in biting and gouging and groin strikes...the whole dynamic of grappling and fighting changes.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
COMPLETELY! And very few people train with the reality of it.
@MoSec9
@MoSec9 8 ай бұрын
Great video and information. The only thing to remember is that the other person might bite back as well, and may have a meaner bite, so be aware. I grew up in a rough neighborhood in Morocco at a time when kids roamed free, played till it got too dark. I fought every week at least a couple of times and had to avoid multiple fights every day. There four go to moves every kid picks up early on- two of them are fight enders. The moves are a sweeping kick, knees, head buts, and biting. The fight enders are the head but and the biting. The knee could be as devastating but for us kids back then we kneed the stomach not the face or head.
@goldeneagle9761
@goldeneagle9761 Жыл бұрын
Does Street Fighting count. Btw awesome content 👍
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Thanks :) I don't know if it is a style but I think its a fair take.
@zachparade2791
@zachparade2791 Жыл бұрын
Recently found your videos. I appreciate how open and positive you are about various martial arts! 👍👍New sub. The idea of only fighting dirty from a safe position makes a ton of sense. I am interested in exploring not only the idea of “biting when they can’t bite me back” but expand it to doing something dirty only if they can’t retaliate with something dirty (eye gouges, groin strikes, biting, fish hooks, attacks to the neck, or going for a weapon). To me, the example of biting from the north-south position would not be safe from their bite let other groin strikes. Liked the other examples better.
@davidmiller4078
@davidmiller4078 Жыл бұрын
Most children know this and how to attack the face not sure theres any art to it its basic brutal primtive human nature ?
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Agreed but there is an art to closing the distance and understanding how to grab and control someone in the process of biting
@mythx123
@mythx123 Жыл бұрын
(Before watching the video) probably Gouging! (After watching) Holy shit!
@Ciscvs
@Ciscvs Жыл бұрын
This is like adding headbutts to Muay Thai (Lethwei), it changes the game completely.
@oceanberserker
@oceanberserker 8 ай бұрын
Or Muay Boran.
@nikolaosyt
@nikolaosyt 2 ай бұрын
Of course, Salvatore Oliva and Lee Morrison were Paul Vunak’s students. The meat idea, was in early Vunak’s videos, not only for Kino Mutai but in knife fighting as well for presentation purposes. Paul Vunak’s ideas and training methodology always re-surfaces, it is still extremely relevant.
@Daniel_Cooley
@Daniel_Cooley Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do a video on shoot boxing! I just stumbled on your channel the other day and have been binging your videos
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
I can definitely do one on shoot boxing. :) I trained with Yuri Nakamura for a bit when i was at Inosantos academy. He was great.
@krakulandia
@krakulandia 2 ай бұрын
Senshido has biting, spitting, eye gouging, etc. It's also known for its "shredding" system.
@armwrestling_nerd
@armwrestling_nerd Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of mud diving canibals.... Seems I was right😅
@kde439
@kde439 4 ай бұрын
just throwing this out there... Hepatitis, HIV, Aids. Anyone thinking about that ?
@mountainwarrior108
@mountainwarrior108 5 ай бұрын
Look at Paul’s eyes, it’s in the eyes he looks intense, don’t fuck with Paul 😅 Or Salvatore dam, that was insane !
@combatsportsarchive7632
@combatsportsarchive7632 Жыл бұрын
Isn't ancient Pankration the dirtiest one? Some Greek sources state they fought naked and were allowed to strike at the eyes as well their family jewel. The worst ones were the guys from Sparta.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
I’d imagine they were brutal. I’d like to research it more
@jackm2293
@jackm2293 Жыл бұрын
9:13 (me razing my hand in the class room) "Excuse me sir..... But i think you may find that gouge's don't work UNLESS you are COMMITED to MAMING your opponent. And do you think this guy was actually committed to risking all the legal consequences, of such an action? If he was then your right. but i doubt he was. i really really doubt he was. VERY few people are. and most of them are already in jail. i was once in a bar fight one of very few times in my life. when i learnt this lesson of commitment. I think you should give it consideration. when next speculating on gouges. And yer your right about position. But that principal is not just for dirty fighting BUT for EVERTHING every punch, every kick, every throw, everything. Dominant position, is always key. to me that is obvious. but I'm not a noob. iv been at it for more then 20 years. maybe I'm just nit picking your video too much... sorry. please keep it coming. iv never heard of kena mu tai before."
@jethrobradley7850
@jethrobradley7850 Жыл бұрын
Wild guess before watching the video, I would say anything based on Fairbairn-Sykes' 'Defendu' as taught to Special Forces during WW2
@Luingus
@Luingus Жыл бұрын
A street fighter wont play nice. they'll pull out a knife, they'll aim for the testicles, gouge your eyes, bite your neck, kick you while your down. If you want to be on a level playing field you'll need to play just as dirty. Mastering 1 or 2 martial arts is a good base to cover, because then you can grapple, punch, kick, knee, effectively.
@UnknownFeng
@UnknownFeng Жыл бұрын
The Walking Theme plays in the background
@mattdmastiff4524
@mattdmastiff4524 Жыл бұрын
Rough and Tumble. A rural Southern American "martial art" that's basically catch wrestling and Broughton era pugilism and throw bites and gouges in there.
@lsporter88
@lsporter88 Жыл бұрын
This video is describing actual fighting. I never want to have to do that. What you describe is how animals fight. How Apes or Monkeys fight to injure, maim, mutilate and destroy. This is what Chimps do when they are serious. It's good to understand the truth of actual combat.....and why it's better to avoid it. Salute.
@jerryjordan2482
@jerryjordan2482 9 ай бұрын
You can Always Tell who Never Been in a Real Street Fight ! Biting is Always Been part of Street Fighting and Prison Fighting !
@minutemartialarts3152
@minutemartialarts3152 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like JKD that's how we did our catch and jujitsu. Foul tactics were included. Holding the guy down with top position is awesome. Using foul tactics change everything.
@morganml3983
@morganml3983 7 ай бұрын
Love this video... I bit a bully in the face back in 6th grade. School police wanted to arrest me for assault with a deadly weapon. I got suspended instead. 3 months later the bully came back to school and wanted to be my friend. I think I'm gonna study this martial art more.😊
@jackm2293
@jackm2293 Жыл бұрын
0:26 🤔 i think it would be what they call 'combatives' from elite forces like Sayeret Matkal or SAS... Probably Not what you are gunna talk about thought. Be interesting to see what your going to be talking about in this video. I suspect something from the 'civilian' world... Not Ninjutsu but something of that ilk is i recon is what you'll be showing...
@jackolman
@jackolman Жыл бұрын
Since the jaw is purportedly the strongest muscle this is worth exploring.
@MERVILLE3
@MERVILLE3 7 ай бұрын
The dirtiest fighting system? Mud foxy wrestling, of course
@easygroove
@easygroove Жыл бұрын
Watchin the Intro Pic - it muste be called "Tyson Do" but jokes away like other wrote here "Kinomutai" is part of some FMA Styles ?!
@borgy7085
@borgy7085 Жыл бұрын
Well, one time my ex girlfriend went crazy, I tryed to hold her, he bite me full force, actually bite out like 1 cm big skin surface from my arm, and I still laughed at her...
@thehermit761
@thehermit761 Жыл бұрын
Basicaly over power the individual untill he cannot fight back then torture him mercilesly.
@idx1941
@idx1941 Жыл бұрын
What you're saying is not true. You are viewing it through YOUR lens of being trained. But how much training does an "attacker" have? "Attackers" are not highly trained people, they are highly aggressive people. Of course having some 'positional' training, etc. will improve one's ability to use dirty tactics. But an untrained woman (for example) could eye gouge a rapist and be successful. She does not require the need to have some sort of background in grappling.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video 😅
@idx1941
@idx1941 Жыл бұрын
@@inside_fighting ohhh, I watched it and you viewed it through the eyes of a trained opponent.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
@@idx1941 the entire point is that you can train these techniques to be effective with them… aka biting is an art form in itself.
@nicholascruz9260
@nicholascruz9260 10 ай бұрын
I’m new viewer and thank you for the information. I’ll keep watching always
@joaoguilhermebastos519
@joaoguilhermebastos519 Жыл бұрын
Well it's kinda gross but when you're forced to bet your life anything goes to win. I clicked because i got some nasty memories about a former sensei of mine whom have already gave me this lesson.(damn shinobi) It changes you, your mind. Either you get scared and shut it down or you start thinking and feeling like an actual predator. Funny enough was to realize after that i became way less agressive in social aspect which for me really reinforces the idea that the bullies are just people without self confidence. Once you learn to do damage, SERIOUS damage a switch flips inside your head and you become calm as a lake.
@hherrer5
@hherrer5 11 ай бұрын
Awesome looks very brutal. Couldn’t imagine being on the bite side of that man that’s scary.
@YKH430
@YKH430 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I actually live in Vancouver. May I ask which club you visited? Thank you.
@RobertCarlson-c7r
@RobertCarlson-c7r Жыл бұрын
gunting = punching uninterrupted?
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Interesting take and I am stealing that.
@thehermit761
@thehermit761 Жыл бұрын
Paul vunak is an animal he would litraly go out of his way to get into fights, he would wear bling deliberatly just to get into fights and test out his martial art skills. He is crazy XD
@Kalimon789
@Kalimon789 Жыл бұрын
You DID pronounce Tagalog wrong tho- great videos still.
@geraldopena
@geraldopena 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Great insight and teaching about dirty fighting
@geojanson2605
@geojanson2605 8 ай бұрын
the person pictured in the image for the video doing the biting sure looks like Lee Morrison from Urban Combatives. His stuff is the best IMHO. You should take a look at his videos
@Kuji9
@Kuji9 Жыл бұрын
A very interesting and analytical view of martial systems. It is interesting to see the development of martial arts in the west. Karate and Judo in the 60's, Kung Fu in the 70's. Ninjutsu in the 80's and the development of mixed martial arts in the 90's. Now we're analysing the inclusion of effective and often forgotten traditional techniques, and incorporating them into grappling systems. This way we can develop a self protection method that can be devastatingly effective on the street when faced with the brutality of street violence. Thank-you for posting.
@fredpetit335
@fredpetit335 5 ай бұрын
This is mostly why combat sport guys can talk shit about traditional self defense systems because in sport you can’t bite the neck artery, break the guy”s neck, or take his eyes out. That biting thing is crazy.
@sevensblack
@sevensblack Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Marc McFann lunch buffet. Bewilders trained people when you do these things too.
@sirpibble
@sirpibble Жыл бұрын
The only thing biting does is charge your opponents rage meter If someone was to bite me during a fight god fucking help him if he doesn't take an artery out because that kind of shit awakens peoples caveman brain It'll make a perfectly reasonable person that would've been content to just fight it out and squash it afterwards really uncivilized really fast 11:29 just continue the choke and pull it straight back through his teeth People who dont know grappling think you need to be under the chin, but we know better. Anything below the nose is enough I do not advise it
@thebaneking4787
@thebaneking4787 Жыл бұрын
Any style I do. Lol. When someone goes for my second hand my first goes behind my own head and I complete the choke. Referring to the RNC.
@josephjao8456
@josephjao8456 Жыл бұрын
In Butuan City, Mindanao we call it " Sensual Touch" in '80's and '90's from the Martial Arts Instructor. He teaches Japanese Karate system but did not teach that Sensual touch system because it is so brutal. Not only biting and gouging, also using the shape of the hand to strike the sensitive parts of the body.
@joaoguilhermebastos519
@joaoguilhermebastos519 Жыл бұрын
"Sensual touch" It sounds so ironic. Hahahahaa
@mizukarate
@mizukarate Жыл бұрын
I have fish hooked and bite in fights. It works but avoid the bite if you fight a homeless person.
@johnelliott9823
@johnelliott9823 Жыл бұрын
curious who the systema guy was - Vladimir Vasiliev can legit grapple without the dirty stuff, and he teaches how
@zibtihaj3213
@zibtihaj3213 Жыл бұрын
I remember speaking to one of Paul Vunak students / associates , I asked him if he sparred with Paul and how was it .. his response was He had a wiry smile on his face , put his head down and little, started shaking it from left to right as he said “ oh you don’t want to spar with him … that’s not recommended “. I think that sums it up
@buggaboo2707
@buggaboo2707 Жыл бұрын
Love this, but unfortunate name... but it is what it is I guess I did get grabbed up by a third person once from behind and guy had a arm in guillotine on me and I showed him I could take his eye,and told him I would on three and counted it down and he let go. I was in a bad spot because I was half on a bed. Stupid s^%1t but I had to confront his friend about brandishing a gun and being an idiot
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Well that escalated quickly 😅
@PainoftheAncestors
@PainoftheAncestors Жыл бұрын
Sanuces Ryu Eye 2 Eye Jiu Jitsu stands alone in this regard.
@mattmc9812
@mattmc9812 7 ай бұрын
Rough and tumble was practiced in old west it was practically the samw
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure there was a little coke in his heart. Paul the hippy bad ass. I’ve trained a lot of this same stuff with guys in Florida.
@calebworden2993
@calebworden2993 7 ай бұрын
You should look up a few rat technique it's what Navy seals are trained in nowadays
@jerommelewis
@jerommelewis Жыл бұрын
Jeff speak man was teaching that in American kenpo 5.0
@onedirection3510
@onedirection3510 Жыл бұрын
What about blood in the mouth? Diseases? Is this intelligent? Safe?
@colemanstarr5404
@colemanstarr5404 Жыл бұрын
Kinu mutai, not sure if i spelled right.
@inside_fighting
@inside_fighting Жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@thehappyheretic2136
@thehappyheretic2136 Жыл бұрын
i was certified under andrew kodger and studied w mike vanbeek in Sifu Vu JKD. I talked to Sifu VU for about an hr once such a cool down to earth burn out
@chrisd1
@chrisd1 9 ай бұрын
combatives or historic rough and tumble
@shawntailor5485
@shawntailor5485 Жыл бұрын
Well ,I mean when I think about it I could chew a pretty tuff steak ,but like you said ," life death situations ", life death tactics .
@coleydavis8456
@coleydavis8456 Жыл бұрын
It really should be so obvious. All predators pin down their prey before they give the fatal bite.
@scarred10
@scarred10 Жыл бұрын
Vunak is unstable mentally,not someone id admire as a person.As for biting from dominant positions,you will be crucified in court because you didnt need to do it if you are a skilled grappler in that position,that will be clear to the prosecution and jury if it goes to trial.It should be last resort only.
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