The Dirty Projectors demonstrate the process of 'hocketing'

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Күн бұрын

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@thenoiboi
@thenoiboi 12 жыл бұрын
it's not complicated to grasp, but the ability of the members of this band (and others, of course) to isolate themselves with discipline in a live environment is what really amazes me about this band.
@Keepmovingson
@Keepmovingson 3 жыл бұрын
Practice brother, practice and it will become easy
@aaroncunningham9395
@aaroncunningham9395 10 жыл бұрын
Some of these comments are hilarious. This is an almost ten minute video of a musician speaking extemporaneously and casually about his creative process in a fairly accessible way and some folks seem to want him to sound more like a polished public speaker reading from prepared notes. I'm just not sure that a bunch of people who probably can't speak coherently for long enough to order at the drive thru should be so quick with their critiques...
@theerealatm
@theerealatm 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Cunningham love this comment for real!
@ChristianHegele
@ChristianHegele 13 жыл бұрын
"First, a 'broken chord' is when you play the individual notes of a chord in a sequence. Now, 'hocketing' is when you break up a sequence of notes into small chunks, and give different singers their own chunk. When the musicians sing or play their chunk in the right order, you put the sequence back together, it's just that it's spread out over different voices. That's what I did with in this song, I hocketed some broken chords. It's actually an ancient technique, and it sounds pretty cool."
@stephenplante2273
@stephenplante2273 2 жыл бұрын
No thats an arpeggio not broken
@ChristianHegele
@ChristianHegele 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenplante2273 An arpeggio is a type of broken chord where the notes are played in ascending or descending sequence.
@stephenplante2273
@stephenplante2273 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianHegele Right! The way Dave played it, though, was arpeggiated, which, hence, would be the proper term, in this particular case, since he wasn't playing the notes together but in succession. I'm not trying to be a know-it-all.
@jackspicerisland
@jackspicerisland 14 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this--fantastic to hear him unpack his music at length like this. Plus, MAJOR bonus points for his pronunciation of seque!
@ckblackwoodmusic
@ckblackwoodmusic Жыл бұрын
What absolute geniuses. I'll never forget the first time I heard them.... ❤
@musicfan2000
@musicfan2000 15 жыл бұрын
chill out people. he's a musician, not a public speaker. also those guitar lines were terrific.
@nogrutznoglory
@nogrutznoglory 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I come back here to remind myself what amazing really is.
@DoULilacIt2
@DoULilacIt2 10 жыл бұрын
Some people know what chords are, but other people don't. Anyways, it's the way he explains it that's very interesting. I, a musician can even benefit from it, and so can everyone else in the world. It gives you another perspective, one that is going to impact the world!
@BrandNewDeweyCox
@BrandNewDeweyCox 13 жыл бұрын
what is that song that he plays off the computer, it's sick
@antuck1
@antuck1 13 жыл бұрын
Haters: look "up hocket" on wikipedia. "[H]ocket was used primarily in vocal music of the 13th and early 14th centuries. It was a predominant characteristic of music of the Notre Dame school..."
@LucidDream
@LucidDream 15 жыл бұрын
Now this is a good interview. Well...doesn't even seem too much like an interview. More answers and descriptions rather than questions. I like it.
@vajravibra
@vajravibra 14 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling there are two factors contributing to his quirky speech and abstract explanation of a hocketed arpeggio: a) I get the impression the show is meant to share the process of composition with non-musicians who don't know what the heck an arpeggio is, and b) Cannabis
@Chan.711
@Chan.711 14 жыл бұрын
this is awesome breakdown, i knew he had some african influence, when i first heard the(the ladies in background on their take away show) it reminded me of african singing, groovy.
@GenteelCretin
@GenteelCretin 15 жыл бұрын
I love it when artists talk about the music like this... for being their trade, it happens pretty rarely. The trick is kinda obvious, but it's cool to hear it come together like that.
@JohnnyHurbonConnections
@JohnnyHurbonConnections Жыл бұрын
New sounds are needed in this world stuck in generational familiarity that puts up walls to open ear freedom. I listen to everything as if it’s a secret that only I am being privileged to by God.
@musicalman1995
@musicalman1995 Жыл бұрын
Amber has to have the best tone I’ve heard in a vocalist.
@FreddieFirth
@FreddieFirth Жыл бұрын
The videos alright but I'm more pleased it's put me onto Gimme Gimme Gimme, what an insane and illuminating song! Need to check out Rise Above in full some time.
@Burton82190
@Burton82190 13 жыл бұрын
Are people really hung up on his public speaking abilities instead of listening to the insight he has? When he runs for public office or something we can talk about his pitfalls in public speaking. Jesus, just listen to him explain his process of making the music you obviously enjoy. You wouldn't be watching this video if you didn't like his music.
@musicalman1995
@musicalman1995 8 жыл бұрын
Painting with - animal collective.
@rorschachozymandias2821
@rorschachozymandias2821 8 жыл бұрын
good album in general but bad for any AnCo fan that knew them prior to that
@aidanm8009
@aidanm8009 8 жыл бұрын
Rorschach Ozymandias no? Amazing album, super good for pretty much anyone?
@urianpizana2659
@urianpizana2659 7 жыл бұрын
Love Animal Collective from Spirit to Centipede Hz. Despise Painting With.
@urianpizana2659
@urianpizana2659 7 жыл бұрын
"Bo Hoo. I don't like anything outside the predictable western tradition of harmony and arrangement".
@JakeLaraFX
@JakeLaraFX 7 жыл бұрын
Spirit they've gone is actually great if you actually listen to the lyrics and take in the whole concept. Painting with is also great too, it was odd to get into since I wasn't used to it, but the album actually has a lot to it and interesting sounds and layers become revealed the more you listen and pay attention.
@DilonEEL
@DilonEEL 11 жыл бұрын
this should be a TED talk
@Pomeray8
@Pomeray8 14 жыл бұрын
does anyone know the name of the song he shows on his laptop?
@sonicjettnz
@sonicjettnz 12 жыл бұрын
Very King Crimson!
@squattystx
@squattystx 8 жыл бұрын
philip glass sesame Street anybody?
@plokmji
@plokmji 14 жыл бұрын
@zorgitron Wow, I was thinking of accepting my offer of admission to Yale, but you've really opened my eyes. Thanks so much!
@alariclopez4460
@alariclopez4460 2 жыл бұрын
Love how he added such new flavor to a Black Flag song
@digitalsustain
@digitalsustain 11 жыл бұрын
'you guys good with notes?' 'yeah' ooooooooof course they are
6 жыл бұрын
amazing!
@fishmanfishmanfishman
@fishmanfishmanfishman 9 жыл бұрын
gives me chills
@shanaynay27
@shanaynay27 5 жыл бұрын
he used to work at Tea Lounge in Park slope :)
@monodeuramain
@monodeuramain 11 жыл бұрын
idk if you already found out by now but it's called imagine it!!
@ghaibboy
@ghaibboy 14 жыл бұрын
this band is so Bjork :)
@Twyfall
@Twyfall 5 ай бұрын
They did an album with her !
@psirou
@psirou 14 жыл бұрын
7:15 a bit like something from Philip Glass off the north star record.
@stonethemason
@stonethemason 10 жыл бұрын
Gentle Giant did this, hocketing, back in the 70s.
@GustoFormula
@GustoFormula 10 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that, could you tell me some songs that feature hocketing?
@MyNameIsNeutron
@MyNameIsNeutron 9 жыл бұрын
Valyrian Steel "Knots" is a great example from Gentle Giant. "Thoughts" by Spock's Beard also has some really obvious hocketing in the vocals.
@TheSpallanzani
@TheSpallanzani 5 жыл бұрын
First ever TED talk
@LazyTranslator
@LazyTranslator 14 жыл бұрын
@JohnnyJohnnyJohnny That's because Dave, while working pretty much only in the pop/rock stream of things, is also a bonafied composer in his own right. I find that musicians with a composerly inclination tend to be more comfortable with discussing the technical aspects/anatomy of their music rather than just feelings or abstract inspirations or whatever else as vague.
@DrNewbourn
@DrNewbourn 11 жыл бұрын
What song was he playing here on the twelve string?
@FreshmenBolts
@FreshmenBolts 11 жыл бұрын
that was fuckin dope!
@zorgitron
@zorgitron 14 жыл бұрын
@Atyantaz Yes. Wouldn't you say that's better than physical violence? I just think people ought to have a contrasting opinion readily available.
@monodeuramain
@monodeuramain 11 жыл бұрын
gimme gimme gimme from rise above
@gitgo567
@gitgo567 12 жыл бұрын
0:09 don't you mean a NEW ATTITUDE? HAWW
@lslewis
@lslewis 10 жыл бұрын
Is "hocketing" kinda like a fugue? Just wondering...if anyone wants to jump in.
@blerkh
@blerkh 10 жыл бұрын
Hockets have nothing to do with fugues, though I suppose a fugue could hocket. In a most basic sense, hocketing is about distributing parts of a melodic line (a melody) between different voices/instruments. You could take an ascending major scale, for example, and have each consecutive scale degree sung by a different person, or just alternate between two different people, and that would be a hocket, albeit a silly one. The 20th century technique called "Klangfarbenmelodie" was a sort of modern version of hocketing.
@lslewis
@lslewis 8 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks guys. I remember hearing about fugues in one Music Appreciation class I took years ago, but never heard of hocketing, although, I think I may do it sometimes.
@josephballerini3730
@josephballerini3730 4 жыл бұрын
Sly and the family stone seemed to distribute melodies among different instruments.
@eatingbabies17
@eatingbabies17 14 жыл бұрын
@Pomeray8 imagine it.
@icelandmoon
@icelandmoon 8 жыл бұрын
G. Machaut did it best.
@eatingbabies17
@eatingbabies17 14 жыл бұрын
imagine it.
@tombuttner
@tombuttner 14 жыл бұрын
@robotnudist totally
@MisterF_1984
@MisterF_1984 11 жыл бұрын
ahaha ouch, good spot.
@glossyasmr5412
@glossyasmr5412 2 жыл бұрын
7:27
@ZacharyLipton1
@ZacharyLipton1 13 жыл бұрын
@randjoycevonnegut don't be such a prat. I read your comments. You also, like you know, don't express yourself very well.
@buenobus
@buenobus 13 жыл бұрын
uhh uhhhhhhhhhhh uuuhhhhhhh
@GaryEddyOnline
@GaryEddyOnline 13 жыл бұрын
I just dont think he's offering much insight. a lot of genius musicians suck at talking about it. The music tends to speak for itself. The girls demonstrating hocketing is amazing though
@boogster123321
@boogster123321 13 жыл бұрын
hocketing= counterpoint in theory terms
@zorgitron
@zorgitron 14 жыл бұрын
@Superfunk1991 Thelonius Monk expresses himself. You can tell. His music is unorthodox but it's good because you can feel his expression. David Longstreth is not expressing anything. That's the only feeling I get after watching and hearing so many DP songs. On top of that, he explains basic music theory in complicated ways to impress and confuse people. That's my deal.
@Lunaedea7
@Lunaedea7 12 жыл бұрын
bahaha, and he went to Yale, pah! lol :)
@VSGBSTUFF
@VSGBSTUFF 13 жыл бұрын
Basically ignore the whole video and go to 7:45 and see the real women show a great example :P
@19amf95
@19amf95 12 жыл бұрын
1:13 he totally pronounces segue wrong
@musicalman1995
@musicalman1995 8 жыл бұрын
Classical music did it first
@AdrianMendoza23
@AdrianMendoza23 14 жыл бұрын
their last album is...ok. Its interesting, but can be painful to listen to at times.
@randjoycevonnegut
@randjoycevonnegut 14 жыл бұрын
"they did it in uh, like, thirteenth century monk music in notre dame or whatever." I love the music, but he does not express himself well.
@djsubliminal
@djsubliminal 14 жыл бұрын
but uh....uh.....uhh.....like uhhh...... dude i love your music and all! but you may want to take it down a notch with the drugs!!
@thatsoundsdelicious
@thatsoundsdelicious 13 жыл бұрын
This was... errr... a little painful to... errr... listen to. Love a lot of their songs, but... errrrm... jesus, he takes a while to... erm... get to the......... errr.... point.
@tjbton
@tjbton 11 жыл бұрын
But uh, uh,yeh,yeh,but,yeah,butt,uknow .....who the F cares! Why is the ?
@andyjones3648
@andyjones3648 11 жыл бұрын
THE DIRTY PROJECTORS IS THE WORST GARBAGE IVE EVER HEARD ON EARTH EVER......JUST TERRIBLE....TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!
@gabelogan56
@gabelogan56 8 жыл бұрын
ouch, bro. Why are you watching this then?
@bingbongcentralhq
@bingbongcentralhq 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bwolfe8516
@bwolfe8516 11 ай бұрын
they are not for you....
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