The Disappearance of the Jamison Family

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[@TheCasualCriminalist]

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[@zimattack9994]

You should do an ep on missing 411 cases keep up the great work and fir the love of all remember to feed your writers

[@Olaf_shotz-wt]

this coment has bean posted 2 days ago and this video just 10min ago what the fuck

[@deadracreeperlord]

Simon ever heard of Paris TX, or earth TX, we literally just reuse names

[@Tuturial464]

Highway of tears missing/murdered women case and the McStay family murders should be interesting

[@chetfreeland1920]

Please look up how to pronounce lowes You really butchered it

[@AddamsrUs13]

The most horrifying part of this is how Simon pronounced Lowe’s

[@ScoutValentine]

Yesssss! 🤣

[@crazyeyez1502]

Omg! Poor tacko🌮 loving Simon

[@destrianlysohirka]

Why did they bleep the word "shed"? He said "Fancy garage or a fancy shed" but they acted like he said sh*t😅

[@iamcerridwen]

Agreed lol it is rough 😂

[@lilbit22ism]

I came here immediately for this comment😂

[@hydrorouge]

Simon: *shares two heartwarming seconds of his daughter on camera* Also Simon: “This show is getting big so it’s likely that someone will eventually end up getting murdered while listening to this show. It could be you.” This is why we’re here. 😂

[@stephjovi]

Guess the kid is so we get something heart warming before all the gruesome stuff

[@wrmlm37]

I always think it could be me. Even on shows where it isn't suggested:)

[@michaelgallagher3640]

Kills me every time....in a good way.

[@cristinitacorazon331]

Love it.😍🤣🤣🤣

[@tamarawinnett4138]

It was super cute finally getting to see Simon's kid! Also, awesome that he knows his way around knives in the kitchen! :D

[@samanthaw2049]

Super late getting to this episode. As a Oklahoma native, I was so proud of how Simon nailed the pronunciation of Eufaula....and then he butchered Lowe's 🤣

[@lornaj3310]

I'm starting to enjoy how every time acreage is mentioned, Simon says, ”AMERICA... you have so much LAND!!"

[@WARDADDY240]

40 acres is small in Texas😆

[@estellesery8378]

I know. I live in the midwest and we have 70.

[@lornaj3310]

Tell me about it... I live in the desert Southwest and my house came with 80. We live on ONE of them... no idea what to do with the other 79 acres of sand and cactus.

[@lilymarinovic1644]

@@lornaj3310 Easy - set up a meth lab or headquarters of a Satani .cult. Least you don't have to do any maintenance or landscaping...

[@bryanmcdonald4351]

I have a friend from England that wants to come here just to experience time zones. I’m not sure what he thinks is gonna happen besides changing the clock

[@Pepperminge_Mononoke]

I can't decide which is more heartwarming, his little girl being adorable or Simon pivoting to the camera with excitement and a knowing look. 2:09

[@oliviasayshi7517]

I know! She is freakin adorable too!

[@Luluthekitty23]

Little Miss Whistler ☺️

[@jessicuh292]

Cutie !

[@jordanwilliams9300]

ADORABLE 🥰

[@judithann7193]

So adorable! Simon looks so proud.

[@mrs.snyder2170]

😂😂 “Don’t write in, I don’t want to hear from you.” Always killing me within the first five minutes. Making me laugh out loud in public and embarrass myself. Thank you Simon.

[@sonyaaann9207]

Yass I was looking for this 🤣😂💙

[@erinjordon829]

I died at this. Simon is my favorite person 😂😂😂😂

[@ardenalexa94]

@@erinjordon829he’s hilarious.

[@juliaburke6844]

Yes! This part made me laugh too 😂 it brought me out of my morning daze😅

[@kllurfrnds]

if I die, I want Simon to cover my case so he can roast me for how many books about magic and stuff I have.

[@korthnanfortuna9675]

Yeah, he shouldn’t cover any case of my family, if they come up. The amount of True Crime and Crime Novels we have is insane.

[@jarrekhurdle1744]

Not trying to be a downer and I'm sure you are a wonderful person for the most part, but you are going to die. It's actually somerhing we all have in common...

[@atashgallagher5139]

@@jarrekhurdle1744 Life is an STD with a near 100% mortality rate and no cure.

[@patrickaycock3655]

Sorry to tell you Heather but you WILL die, one day. Im guessing you mean "if you were murdered"? In which case, im already looking forward to this episode. Lol

[@uncledubpowermetal]

Lol oh you won't need HIM to roast you

[@pygmybean8050]

Do Callum and Jen know that we love and appreciate them? Do they KNOW?!!?!

[@michaelpipkin9942]

The Basement knows only what they need to know to get the job done......

[@Legitpenguins99]

@@michaelpipkin9942 at least Danny has friends

[@alanhilder1883]

@@Legitpenguins99 They must have worked out a knock code by now while in their separate cells.

[@danelynch7171]

Let's be honest... Jen is the real mvp here

[@blacklotus1486]

you have the #1 cutest KZbin handle, @pygmy bean *bows down*

[@cricutcraftscrime]

As a bipolar patient, watching true crime helps keep me on my meds. 🙃

[@dannileigh6426]

Shit! Yes, thanks for the reminder lol

[@simplyhuman3982]

😢

[@fairyqueengee]

Nice

[@DahliaVonHellion]

Me too man, me too 🥲

[@ashlynmaher5728]

I have BPD… and same.

[@theoriginalone696]

Love that in 99% of videos on the internet people talk about how they would go and arrest the drug dealers themselves and get into fights, like they want to die, then we have Simon saying "i like life, carry on"

[@TheCasualCriminalist]

Preach. I'm not getting involved in any shit unless I really have to, and it's not going to be me going on some suicide mission.

[@KS-PNW]

At least he's honest with himself/us

[@badluck5647]

@@TheCasualCriminalist Let one of the other Whistler clones be the hero. Cocaine probably gives the Brain Blaze Simon some irrational courage.

[@cambodianbreastmilk2980]

There are people who's job it is to deal with those situations. I'm not involved at all lol i prefer to live my life and not involve myself in life threatening situations anymore.

[@mistresslegato]

You'd probably change your mind and turn them in if you lived next door in a trailer park where your house is pretty much made out of compressed paper, wood and aluminum. These dumbasses poison their own kids with the same spoons they shoot up with, they don't give a fuck about safety, or blowing you and your family members up in a toxic cloud. Not turning in meth labs causes a lot of unfortunate deaths, many of them, their own children. Please do report a suspected meth house. It smells like cat piss, you honestly can't miss it.

[@PeaceLoveHonor]

LOL...Callum, your writing in these is genius. Don't think some of haven't noticed how good you are at writing to get interesting responses from Simon as he reads. Well done, sir. 😉👍🤣

[@alexjacobsen8487]

Hear hear! Definitely a great team, along with Jen ! ✌️✊

[@tipi5586]

You'd think he'd be good at it considering tens of thousands of pounds were spent on his higher education, and you know, it's his job. People who do things for a job tend to be good at them.

[@ir34p3ri5]

@@tipi5586 you sound like fun

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

NO, Simon is an Android and Callum programs him. Well done Callum. 🌟

[@hullinstruments]

@@tipi5586 take it you don’t live in America? Come here and bask in the glory of everyone being shit at their job. 😂 Honestly the majority of people are great… but lots of us folks are shit at life. And shit people tend to be the loudest

[@ethal1222]

As an avid hiker and true crime enthusiast (learning about, not committing), "What if I find a body?" is a thought I randomly have fairly often while hiking.

[@forrest1979]

Funny parenthetical clarification

[@Nylak-Otter]

I think this also, but I'm literally paid to find bodies with my SAR K9s, so it's not nearly as unpleasant for me. 😂

[@ardenalexa94]

@@Nylak-Otterwhat does sar mean? Search and rescue? If that’s what it is, is it hard to get into? I have a German shepherd. And she always wants to be busy, so I’ve thought about getting her into something like that and going with her. Just so she has a job because she’s really good at smells so I think she’d be good at it.

[@Nylak-Otter]

@@ardenalexa94 Yep! There are a lot of barriers to enter, and I honestly don't know how to do it the right way. I just got extremely lucky. A connection through my job put me in contact with the previous kennel manager of the NYCPD, who was in charge of all the SAR K9s in 9/11. I worked for him directly for years, and I acquired my own dogs, got first responder training, biohazard handling license, and crime scene certifications, and trained up my dogs myself. I got human remains samples from hospitals, usually diabetic toes and placentas, for training. Once they were certified and proven, I joined the American Rescue Dog Association as an independent, responded to volunteer requests, and eventually was proven enough to join a statewide task force. It's a full-time volunteer position, so you're on call 24/7, so you need a day job that is cool with you leaving for a few days at the drop of a hat. I work as an independent (folks can hire my personal team to help with cold cases or private searches once police have given up or won't help), and I sell trained up dogs to other teams for income, and I'm also a behaviorist consultant for animal shelters. My time is pretty much my own.

[@GiraffeFlavored]

Hiking, biking, fishing and hunting all seem like the most likely hobbies/professions that will lead to you finding a dead body. Consider it your civic duty???? You'll be helping people at least

[@dariusmackenzie9863]

Remember: If you're an American family with $32k in cash, instead of living in a shipping container, you should go to *Laos*.

[@ComradeMarlow]

Laüs

[@rachelhansen2417]

While I was listening, I genuinely thought he meant the country for a couple of seconds until I realized he meant Lowe’s.

[@jasminecollins897]

Omg, I didn't realize he meant Lowes until just now. My brain just fully accepted that he had gone on a weird tangent about Laos.

[@roguedalek900]

Hardware and home improvement.. low-s. :)

[@feyrannahunter1062]

As someone who has done the whole turning a shed into a house thing 32k is very slim, the shipping container will be harder to do some things with but is actually probably the better shell to start with. I give him a pass though as someone who hasn't had to do such a thing you don't realize how much it costs. Main difference is in sealing it, shipping container only needs foundation and insulation, that garage from lowes takes a lot more pre-finish work to make it a structure stable enough for plumbing and to keep moisture/bugs out.

[@euroamerican92]

Of all the american names to mispronounce, Lowes is unique. It's L-Oh-s, cause americans "going down to Laos to get building supplies" was probably an actual historical war crime.

[@jrmckim]

Lows.. just pronounce it without the E.

[@jmac430]

Instant classic

[@lemr88]

Omg I just laughed so loud when I read this, outside on my balcony at 7 am

[@kwoni3337]

What? Where is lowes pronounced like laos?

[@LeahBouley]

I think it like a mix of the words low/sales hence Lowe’s lol

[@Nozubozu]

I was a missing person (twice, actually, in the same year) at the ripe old age of 4 years old! Both times I saw a neighbor's dog and just.....followed it for miles until I ended up in the next county. It didn't help that I had zero fear, as I was confident I could survive on my own due to watching survival shows all the time haha. Thankfully, I was found (after an entire day, going into night, of being missing) both times by very kind people who fed me as they phoned home. I got to go home in the back of a police car both times as well. It was a big deal though, as there was another case going on of a missing girl who was my age and looked almost identical who unfortunately wasn't as lucky as I was. I look back on it now, and man I was really fortunate I was not only found but was also able to safely return home both times.

[@droomzy]

happy you're okay! wish you safety & happiness!

[@MsMorri]

You’re mentioning that you got lost because of a dog, reminds me of going missing for the same reason. Only I was in a big city, and didn’t get far before the police found me, a two year old, wandering on one of the busiest streets. The one time I scared my mom to death, though I had pretty fun memories of being in a police car and asking the guy what everything was. There was a lady who walked with me for a while but I don’t know if she was helping me or trying to kidnap me. She did let me go with the cops though, so probably the former. Like you, I was REALLY lucky I was okay.

[@readdeeply9278]

Kelly you are officially AWESOME lol

[@selinesbeau]

@@MsMorri This is why I'm completely in favour of those child harnesses with the leashes.

[@MsMorri]

@@selinesbeau I agree. Especially with kids who like to explore. While I can see some reasoning behind the argument against them, I think it's just a good safety option.

[@patc1096]

Simon your kid is adorable, here's to many happy memories for you both

[@TheCasualCriminalist]

Thank you :)

[@malditoduende2140]

@@TheCasualCriminalist I second that! Look at all that hair!!

[@toxogandhi]

Must get the cuteness from the mom. I'm only kidding, Simon. ❤️

[@caseynone6094]

Dang, I missed it! Time stamp??

[@terrid8880]

She gets all the hair from her mom? 😁. She’s a cutie!

[@ruthmeow4262]

Oh! Simon's little girl is absolutely adorable!

[@badluck5647]

Thanks to Casual Criminalist, Simon won't abuse his kids in order to prevent them from being serial killers. 👏👏👏

[@EmoExpression]

Where do you see his daughter?

[@taliaryn3699]

@@EmoExpression during the add read he did at the beginning. In his kitchen with the knife set

[@mememe217]

@@taliaryn3699 L

[@TheCasualCriminalist]

@@EmoExpression SOMEONE SKIPPED THE AD!!!

[@justino.bedard6363]

Being an Oklahoman born in Florida, it was pretty funny listening to Simon’s attempt to guess where Oklahoma is, getting it horribly wrong and saying Florida is in the southwest.

[@bf4chode2]

And Washington being in the northeast 😬

[@erinjordon829]

I was looking for this! I always find it absolutely hilarious hearing Simon trying to guess where states are 😂😂😂

[@lisamh9037]

​@@erinjordon829i hope Simon never studies our map, or we won't have as much fun.

[@Sahuaro_Christmas]

He's a bit East/West challenged.

[@katla_phc]

Yup, I had to play that bit again because I thought I heard it wrong 😂

[@aphrog649]

omg your daughter is so adorable 😭 it’s so sweet seeing you with her after hearing little anecdotes about her

[@adammorse9153]

She has his great hair, it's just upside down on her.

[@Summertimeislife]

2:09 for those listening

[@Tsumami__]

He was once a fact boy, now he has become fact father

[@rabidwire]

Three bits here. 1. I am absolutely loving the long form videos. 2. Oklahoma has weird names because this is where they made "Indian Territory" and forcefully relocated all the Native Americans here. Eufala is pronounced "You fall uh". 3. You might consider doing a video about the Trail of Tears or the Residential Schools for your newest channel. There is some messed up dark history there.

[@KingJohnMichael]

Australia did all the same things horrible

[@constitutionalli7522]

CPS is still doing those same horrible things today

[@deeceepnw]

The residential schools in the U.S. and Canada are truly dark history (as in black hole 🕳) and needs to see the light of the day. Please Callum, write a truthful script 🩸😭 to serve my Comanche heritage 🪶

[@kreiner1]

I live right next to a sundown town. But according to our governor that's not real.

[@shaefirecaster5751]

absolutely. The Eufaula were/are actually a part of the Muscogee Creek. They were originally from Georgia, and were pushed west to Alabama and then further west to the Oklahoma Territories

[@everything_is_illuminated619]

I've seriously had the conversation with my boyfriend saying, if I turn up dead, I did NOT take my own life. If I go missing, I did NOT run away. And don't you dare let the cops say otherwise!

[@Zombie_James92]

No lie, I've done the same. I've told my spouse, siblings, friends. Same if I leave the house, if I didn't take my straightener and my chapstick, I didn't go willingly. Come fine me.

[@robertanderson4602]

You should do one on missing Native American women and girls. It's an epidemic in Canada and the USA.

[@binxwaxcap7832]

And the residential schools

[@crystalf8102]

The problem with a show about this is the controversy of it. If Simon makes any errors people would be suing and making his life hell.

[@magdaghirma]

Yes please!

[@GuntherRommel]

Honestly, Robert, I think that's too dark for Whistle Boy. But I agree, it needs far more international visibility.

[@eadweard.]

i thought that stuff was solved now and they all ran off willingly to be prostitutes?

[@symonew33]

Simon making fun of that town name then pronouncing Lowe’s like that 😂😂😂

[@cassandraleighr]

I know....ive missed 3 minutes im so tore up over it

[@panic]

LMAO

[@NikyDearestGoGo]

It literally took me a full 10 seconds to realize what in the actual fuck he was talking about 🤣🤣 THERE’S NO ‘A’ IN THAT WORD SIMON, GOOD LORD. Lmfao.

[@alancoleman466]

Laoues

[@glassyday1242]

Thank god I'm not the only one who was bothered by his pronunciation of Lowe's

[@FaerieFen]

This is the best team I've seen in a long time. Callum is brilliant, Simon is witty, and Jen's edits are a gift to the world

[@austinwilliams7919]

Simon is low-key skilled with knives.. he might end up in his own casual criminalist episode. *Allegedly*

[@rigdzindrolma7148]

I wonder if he’ll write down his crimes! I’m still waiting on that notebook merchandise that says that I haven’t written down my crimes in this notebook. I have no use for tees or mugs but I have crimes i would really like to chronicle but most notebooks don’t have the pizazz I’m looking for, y’know?

[@rigdzindrolma7148]

Allegedly I have crimes to chronicle in a casual criminalist sort of way. Allegedly.

[@laurapardy8297]

“For legal reasons, this is a JOKE”

[@Lizzyjaeger]

“….IN MINECRAFT” of course

[@cbracing808]

"So Oklahoma must be next to Texas?"...says the KZbin Barron with a channel called GEOGRAPHICS 😆

[@franklinjones793]

😂😂

[@thepuksu]

Us states are kinda niche info in europe tbh

[@iamlively3910]

Washington and California in the northeast 😂

[@cbracing808]

@@iamlively3910 ?

[@iamlively3910]

@@cbracing808 lol he mentioned Washington in the northeast and California near Massachusetts. I didn’t know about the Geographics channel but it struck me pretty funny in that context lol

[@Nien10]

As a kid I spent a summer with a wonderful family with a disabled son. Only a year later all three of them were found at the bottom of a river, a murder-suicide. It still saddens me when I remember it. This definitely reminded me of that.

[@kaplingnag7267]

dude that's so sad

[@kelseysification]

"Just go to Louse and buy a fancy gar-age" LOL LOWES! Peace and love, Simon! keep up the good work!

[@TheRngMaster]

Lmao I did notice how he said "garage" until this comment I was too focused on "Loaus"

[@themoviedealers]

My town has two Lice.

[@dylanyoung465]

I heard Laos. Twas very confused.

[@Kimmie9553]

And to clarify… it’s L-OH-zzz like the word “low” but plural…

[@rebeccarobertson5031]

CC has it as "Laos".....I was like, is the garage in Laos? is it a pre-fab being shipped from Laos? then i got it

[@regan3873]

“I even belittle myself to the point of listening to psychics.” A man after Simon’s heart.

[@WQuantrill]

I’m a hunter and I know a lot of hunters and I guarantee that 100% of them would not only not hunt in that area, but lend whatever help they could tracking lol. It’s a very decent community. I didn’t grow up hunting and when I first started, everyone went out of their way to teach me things they thought I should know

[@katevgrady]

Regarding telling hunters "don't hunt in this wood for a few days", the issue is that there isn't really a "this wood". In places like this (and the rest of the US besides the east coast) there's just SO MUCH land and it's not like "Nottingham Forest", it's more like 300 square miles of unmanaged forest. There's no gate to stop hunters at, and some of them live on the wild land anyway.

[@KingJohnMichael]

@Dragonberry that sounds like be finished by tomorrow or else

[@SpelCastrMax]

A lot of the hunters probably would’ve joined the search if told there was a kid missing

[@SpelCastrMax]

@Dragonberry Ditto. I don't hunt, but I grew up around hunters

[@keithdrummond1003]

Don't use critical thinking skills

[@dreca]

As an Okie, I’m very impressed with him guessing Eufaula correctly on the first go. Most of our towns are Native American names.

[@devin7342]

I'm from Wisconsin, same thing here. Feel bad for customer service reps trying to pronounce my city's name!

[@bivery7060]

My grandmother was born in Eufaula, AL. Didn't know there was also one in OK. I was also impressed that Simon pronounced it correctly given his atrocious pronunciation of Lowes, but didn't appreciate his opinion of the name. Maybe I'm too thin-skinned.

[@fubar55676]

But the real question is would he pronounce Oologah right

[@slimlogic]

I'm an Alabamian I think Eufaula is Muskogee

[@brandyncampbell6605]

Hey guys I’m from bama too 🙌🏽😂

[@dearhorse085]

The hardest lesson I could ever hope to learn is that sometimes we have to carry on with our lives without the privilege of closure. Sometimes something can happen to your life with no possible explanation. Nobody to put the blame on. Not enough information to understand. Sometimes, we have to carry on without the closure of what happened to our loved ones. His father would still be alive, wondering how his son ended up this way.

[@internetcatfish]

If you know what you're doing, you can actually turn a shipping container into a decent little home. Yes, it's small, but it's also basically impenetrable to pests. They are also strong enough to bury in the ground if you want to make a larger house with a basement out of multiple containers.

[@themoviedealers]

Or get the natural heating/cooling properties of living underground. (Constant temp of about 55 degrees F year round.)

[@KillAllCops88]

And its cheaper than buying a house

[@mommy2libras]

Do not bury a shipping container. It will collapse. You'll be checking out your new basement and all the sudden the side will buckle or the end will crumple in. If you want to bury it, you need to reinforce it along all the edges and corners and across the sides a bit. Also, you will need to seal the outside with something like tar because the constant moisture will cause rust and weaken it more. Please do not bury a shipping container and just go chill in there. Research what you're doing first or it might just end up being a big ass coffin.

[@msc2u1]

@@KillAllCops88 that's a myth that has been debunked. There's a channel on KZbin that talks about shipping containers sold as homes being a total scam. There were many detailed reasons but the main reason is it will cost more for the modifications and adjustments to build an obscure, rectangular container into livable quarters that will pass state and federal laws for residential use. Yeah, it's pretty expensive. There were many other reasons but that was the main one.

[@justin379]

@@msc2u1 Ive seen the video you are referencing. She fails to mention if you are doing most of the work yourself it becomes a lot cheaper.

[@cynderfan2233]

A series with Simon reading ghost stories that were disproven could be interesting, especially with him speculating how its going to be disproven before he actually reads it.

[@jaketheauroran]

The thirty seconds of Simon defending science while lowkey belittling people who believe in make-believe might be my favorite thing on this channel. I could watch a full video of Simon sitting-down ghost stories.

[@kyleculp7520]

I'd watch the shit out of it. He could do a reverse nukes top 5 style videos

[@jackass.jpeg.]

@@jaketheauroran Its kind of just rude.

[@OrganicAlchemy]

The video would be a 5 second long clip of Simon saying "because ghosts arent real, obviously", and cover every single ghost story

[@stormwater8986]

Decoding the Unknown, it’s his podcast

[@l3176l]

Arkansan here. The one next to Oklahoma. You don’t want a tour of a meth lab regardless of how long it has been defunct. Those places can be so sincerely hazardous as to demand *very* large costs to properly demolish as they contain harmful fumes and have a tendency to explode. Explode big.

[@pumibel1720]

Any episode when Callum can evoke the Holy Hand Grenade in a script is top tier shit in my book. Bravo!

[@katbird5872]

(Student of forensic anthropology here) one of the reasons the bullet hole might be obscured or confused with rat and animal activity would be that rats like to naw at bone they can get their jaws around- they might encounter the hole and then widen it by chewing the edges. You would be able to identify a bullet hole by the marks around it- there would be fractures that would push flaps of bone in or out of the hole depending on the trajectory of the bullet. This hole would then show no signs of new bone growth thus eliminating the possibility of an old injury or surgery. In some cases you can find smears of lead on the bone from the bullet. Fun fact- you can to some degree track what injury to bone happened in what order! The fracture(s) that occurred won’t overlap previous fractures, they will be much more likely to trace along them and possibly create another fracture along a weak point. So by seeing what fractures “cancel out” others you can estimate the order of injury.

[@Amccordford]

Going back and watching older vids I haven't watched yet. Been meaning to mention (since you mention it all the time), I LOVE the fact that you stick to your values and are true to yourself and just say it like it is straight out. You don't believe in this, that, and the other thing, fine by me! I believe in this, but not that or the other thing, and I think it's refreshing to have someone be completely upfront with their take on things. I love it. Don't pander, don't lose yourself. This is why I am subscribed to all your channels and spend far too much of my YT time watching your vids. Keep up the great work!

[@cameronscott3377]

Please never stop the rants/ banter, it adds so much character to this Chanel/ podcast that make it one of my absolute favourites

[@charlotteschofield5305]

Oh bless your heart, I’m now calling Lowe’s “Laus” 😂😅

[@valerielevasseur8674]

Thank you, I was so confused why we were taking a side journey to Laos 🇱🇦

[@Missy197666]

@@valerielevasseur8674 exactly !😂

[@NikyDearestGoGo]

Still laughing about it, took me a full 10 seconds to actually figure out wtf he was on about 🤣🤣

[@MountainCry]

The closed captioning was so baffled that it says Laos. 😂

[@briguyfuzzyhobbit1548]

But really, that’s, like, 90% of the reason we watch…

[@JessicaJackson-ir5uw]

Your America jokes are SO funny to me. They are also scarily accurate. I love your channel, Simon, never lose your humor.

[@contentcop]

*Simon shows daughter for half a second* "everyone liked that"

[@erikjohnson8430]

I love paranormal stuff with differing degrees of belief. That said, I respect Simon's honesty about what he believes. If I want ghosts, there's other channels have that. I come here for crime stories from a straight laced KZbinr.

[@brendenbaxter3269]

That's why I can't stand the constant repetitive rants. It's actually every single episode. Callen needs to make him some supernatural script so he can get all that out in one episode. I didn't think I'd have to constantly listen to random rants about that.

[@chantalterblanche7283]

@@brendenbaxter3269 then don't listen. Remember not everyone that watches is a repeat viewer. He can't exactly insert a "*watch here to cover all bases before watching this video*" request. Also, how many minutes was this "rant" exactly in an hour long episode? Doesn't seem like it took up a lot of screen time at all. Just fast forward for those few minutes. Probably took you longer to scroll the comments and type this. JFC.

[@PalladlaChouette]

My boyfriend’s mom is Wiccan. But she doesn’t necessarily think she can cast spells or anything. She believes that there is spiritual energy everywhere. She’s a really cool woman.

[@positivelysimful1283]

I'm Wiccan; a lot of people who are outspoken and into pop Wicca are kinda flaky, lol. So I tend to overlook it when people criticize & make fun of us, lol. Most people don't know what we actually believe.

[@PraiseTheFSMonster]

Usually wiccans are pretty cool people. Stupid, but cool.

[@just_going_mads]

@@PraiseTheFSMonster rich coming from Jesus smh

[@nzkshatriya6298]

@@PraiseTheFSMonster usually, people who have an overinflated sense of themselves and their beliefs are the stupid ones

[@PixieLove5]

My mother is a High Priestess and I’m a fledgling. I believe in spells, the same way people believe in prayer. Both are the exact same thing! 🥰

[@kaialexander6806]

"It's a dark thought but someone's eventually going to get murdered while listening to this show, right? *It could be you*." Thank you Simon, really needed to hear this while walking alone down a long road in a sketchy area of town while I happen to have a broken foot and cannot run or fight back. Don't mind me, looking over my shoulder every uh ten seconds or so Edit: to everyone asking if I got home safe, thank you for the concern and ye I did get home safe

[@NickDBaker]

Feels are real I just broke my dominant hand. I guess I can still run but I’m slow lol

[@thearmchairjournalist566]

Keep updating so we know your ok 👌

[@aniruddhbhatkal1834]

Hope you're safe

[@merrittmarcus13]

If it makes you feel better, you are much more likely to be murdered by a family member or aquaintance than a stranger.

[@NickDBaker]

@@merrittmarcus13 so true

[@ivanpulido7446]

I have just finished watching everything on this channel and was sad, but then I refreshed the page and realized you dropped something new! The Lord has heard my prayers

[@nihluxler1890]

You know, you can just call him simon

[@personzorz]

Just subscribe to his other 20 channels and you'll have plenty every day

[@memeju1ce]

@@personzorz wait til you find out he owns at least 60% of all the channels on youtube lmao. i recommend biographics. if you’re in the mood for some chaotic neutral energy business blaze is 10000% the way to go!

[@ivanpulido7446]

I know Simon has other channels - and I’ve checked out a few of them - but it isn’t the same if Callum ain’t writing the stories and Jen ain’t doing the editing; if they are then holy sh*t the vibes of each channel are just immensely different lol… Into the Darkness is the closest I’ve gotten to the Casual Criminalist

[@JayeEllis]

Speaking of shit that's not real so there's no sense in believing it...

[@audreymuzingo933]

14:04 I love when Jen puts Simon in 'shakey cam' mode when he's pretending to be someone freaking out about something. The other day I just thought about it when I was riding the bus and started busting out laughing, looking like a nut job to fellow passengers.

[@davidharshman7645]

Simon: Why not turn on heat vision? Me: It is Oklahoma...there is a reasonable chance that the ambient temperature might make heat vision ineffective. Even if it wasn't 90-100F in those days, it is that temp often enough that the police might not have fit that equipment into the budget. Also...as morbid as it is to say, heat sensors wouldn't find bodies, and there was every reason for them to think that is what they were looking for...

[@nickdaveNDM]

And SAR helicopters are differently equipped. And in uncleared, virgin forest the IR camera may not have been able to see the forest floor really at all. And over such a huge area they'd be picking up every hunter, deer, anything else alive.

[@JayeEllis]

That's what I was thinking: Not enough difference between body temp and ambient temp. I'm no expert, but I think it has to be like 15-20 degrees or so.

[@russbennett5470]

Unless the equipment is from the 1980's the ambient temp and body temp will definitely show up differently.

[@masha8544]

They should've simply used the scent/cadaver doggos. I realize it's a vast area to cover, but it would have brought the discovery of the bodies much sooner.

[@vampirefrompluto9788]

@@masha8544 Scent/cadaver dogs are useful BUT their success rate & ability to do their job tend to be misrepresented in the media. Scent dogs can only track 1 scent at a time & given that they were looking for 3 people the dogs were probably divided on which scent to search for. Also the family had been missing for over a week & after that much time scent dogs would have little to no hope of picking up the scent in a forest. Beyond that there are multiple natural ways for scent/cadaver dogs to lose the scent: Animal activity (skunks spraying, dead animals, animals scent marking territory, etc.), Dog's Bane (a wild plant that irritates a dog's nose), Water (rain, rivers, etc.), Human activity (campers, hunters, searchers, etc.) the list goes on.

[@silverskyranch]

"There's lots of really big states... and then there's Texas." I am a Texan, and I was taking a sip of my drink when he said this. I spit out my drink laughing!

[@jujubean54ify]

Wait until Simon finds out “Beauchamp” (the sheriff’s name) is pronounced « Beech-um » in Texas…at least in East Texas.

[@kydsofkush]

@@jujubean54ify What are you talking about? Us east Texans have an extremely long history with Louisiana. Beau has always been "bow" to us. It's up for grabs how they would pronounce the "champ" part, though.lol

[@debshaw680]

I was laughing more at his super poor grasp the concept of east and west.

[@debshaw680]

@@jujubean54ify or Bo-champ in the southeast.

[@stevenrais9360]

Meanwhile Alaska is laughing at you guys "big" 🤣

[@amandakriss4244]

I was an absolute believer in the paranormal. Until I found out we had a serious radon leak in our house the entire time and I myself had an undiagnosed sleep disorder as well as PTSD that caused sleep paralysis as well as basically the shadow people thing when tired, half asleep, having a fatigue attack. I used to think that the group experiences explained away doubts but most of them happened in that house. And I have learned a lot about group think/impressions, all that. Many of the people were going through some sort of trauma or recovering from, addicts, and mental+physical illness. Thanks St. Louis radioactive waste as well as life in general! Also, absolutely lost my mind after a bad reaction to a medication it turns out I am highly allergic to. Like can't look in the mirror at self, when waking up having delirium on who what where why I was. As well as withdraws from other medications I need to live. It has given me a whole new perspective on all the haunting and supposed exorcism cases. I am not violent or anything but I am in a panic liminal state where everything feels unreal.

[@wolfiemuse]

Hope things are better now. ❤

[@amandakriss4244]

@@wolfiemuse slowly getting better on some things and others seem more permanent. But I have adjusted thanks good meds and a few decent doctors. Seeing new specialists soon to hopefully get more progress.

[@hammbannana1038]

Radon is naturally occurring

[@herrikudo]

Or OR... YOUR experience was naturally explainable. Open your mind. The only thing you hurt by being a skeptic is your own ability to learn and consider new possibilities. Genuinely hope you are doing better with your meds that is tough. Just don't dismiss what you dont understand.

[@madokami03]

@@herrikudowtf are you talking about they explained why everything turned out to be naturally explainable rather than a haunting

[@jenniferp6637]

Simon could do a podcast where he talks to people from other countries to have a better idea of the "norms" there. He is always so surprised by the smallest things. Definitely entertaining.

[@jaquesspot]

*Simon taking notes* 🤔🤔🤔

[@One.DeSanctis.]

I'd watch

[@benjie128]

And another simon channel is born....

[@faerierain7536]

I love his reactions 😂

[@banjojohn1489]

Also the normal intonation for the words... Don't ban me Simon 😄 only joking

[@Little_Red_Riding_Hoodlum]

I can die happy now. After hearing "Check yourself, before you wreck yourself." In Simon's well poised accent. 😄

[@kyledamron]

My issue with the murder suicide is the missing bag, gun, and the leaving the dog. None of it adds up at all. It really seems like they stumbled onto a random person and possibly they wanted to rob and kill them

[@mollywantshugs5944]

The gun could have fallen down the hill as this was on/near a steep incline. The bag and dog I don’t have an explanation for.

[@nonamesand]

Couldn't it be that someone found the suitcase and as there was money in it they didn't report the skeletons they just found?

[@AtomicExtremophile]

@@nonamesand I thought that the cops found the money in the car?

[@marydidyouknow5826]

Also the shallow graves and bullet hole found in one of the skulls ... though they were all in a shallow grave. How does that happen in a murder-suicide?

[@littlenothing1068]

“Don’t do that please, I don’t want to hear from you,” - Simon not wanting any of your shit circa 2021

[@viridiscoyote7038]

Back when my sisters were wildland firefighting, they encountered many labs, farms, and storage buildings for drugs. Any building you find might contain a person that didn't want to be found or stuff that could explode if it caught fire (or even booby trapped). There were several instances where automatic gunfire was heard nearby, presumably as a warning to the fire crews to stay out.

[@mebreevee1997]

Sooo were they cool with everything just catching on fire or….?

[@deeceepnw]

Also, having lived on acreage with wild land interface (BLM), sometimes we would have wildfires where ammunition stores would catch fire or just explode from heat and go off. Sometimes those guarding the crops were injured by their own weapons/traps. Don’t feel bad for them at all. If you fail to heed an evacuation order 🧨

[@kimilove8609]

Actually, in my diagnostic course, we discussed how current research is wanting explore if dissociation is occuring when someone is seeing a ghost in their peripheral vision or they genuinely felt they saw someone transparent. The mind is a very powerful tool and can make us see ourselves, as much as us staring at another individual. It's fascinating.

[@Pepperminge_Mononoke]

Whether the parents are at fault or not with this tragedy, justice needs to be pursued relentlessly for Madyson

[@regan3873]

And for the parents if they aren’t at fault.

[@gertsgarden]

I’m generally not into the dark side, but when a new Casual Criminalist pops up I stop what I’m doing and watch!

[@deputychris]

I am from the area, my police buddies and I are still delving into this... appreciate the coverage... so far we believe methamphetamine and a deal gone bad is the main cause. It seems as if the husband had gotten addicted to pain medication and made the lateral jump to methamphetamine (common in this area) but that's just our opinion

[@TezzyRs]

What about the fact that there was no paraphernalia in the house or anywhere for that matter?

[@contra1124]

I'm leaning towards murder-suicide. They might have left the dog behind thinking it would be found sooner. As for the gun, it could be that someone took it afterwards for whatever reason, it was so long before they were found. The "kidnapping after seeing a meth lab" theory also sounds plausible although I wonder why they bothered locking the car again with the dog inside.

[@deputychris]

@tracipylant2616 They would 100% kill the little girl. There's another instance of a missing boy in Antlers (less than an hr away) who was last seen just walking down some old non-used train tracks after school like he normally did and then he just vanished. Whispers in the community are he seen something he shouldn't have. Kids go missing here all the time.

[@alesiarose8004]

There's actually a lot of fire departments that give away smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors, and sometimes, rear facing car seats for parents of newborns in humble circumstances. 😁

[@lindaarrington9397]

They are wonderful

[@stuglife5514]

The fire department in my city goes to every elementary school and even teaches kids how to survive house fires

[@emily.g.929]

You can also drive to any fire department or police department for a free car seat installation and check! Please take advantage of this service! They can catch issues that you might not be aware of, and help you properly fit the harness on your child’s body correctly because that’s also life-and-death 👍🏻

[@GimmeJimmy23]

Which is most, if I had to "hazard a guess."

[@dena81]

So I've replayed a particular part a few times as I wasn't paying attention and each time I keep thinking Simon is talking about the family running away to Laos and the fourth time I finally pay attention to realize he's saying "Go to Lowes" and pronouncing it like Laos 🤣 I shall forgive you fact boi.

[@tanyawade5197]

Simon, in a lot of cases, those lands were named by the Native tribes that lived there long b4 colonization & the names were kept. It’s in a different language than we’re used to.

[@bmacgowan]

Whenever I have a bad anxiety attack and need to come down from it, I listen to an episode of The Casual Criminalist. I don't know if it is Simon voice, his delivery, or the subject matter, but it really helps me. Thanks Simon and Callum.

[@timhocking529]

The Casual Criminalist does have a strangely calming effect.

[@yvonaamariaa]

Let's not forget the fabulous Jen. Or maybe it's Jyn, with a Y.

[@scarlettrose7303]

Same!

[@Concetta20]

It’s that English accent.

[@janetrawlings1691]

Don't forget Jane right?

[@SeerWalker]

oh shit this reminded me of that reddit post about that guy who thought his landlord was stalking him, leaving post-it notes around and deleting webcam footage, but it turned out he had carbon monoxide poisoning instead

[@hannahbeanies8855]

Oh my gosh I vaguely remember hearing something about this

[@davidchampagne9802]

Was in Top 5 unknown or Scary mysteries

[@windhelmguard5295]

must have been some kind of other poisoning really, carbon monoxide interferes with your blood, not your nervous system.

[@TaranTatsuuchi]

'Can you not stop watching it" _Glances at youtube suggestions_ _Chuckles_ I'm in danger!

[@Ennead13x]

American place names are a mash of several indigenous and immigrant (colonial + more recent waves) languages, and immigrant mispronounciations of indigenous languages...and mispronounciations of fellow immigrant languages. Even their own languages after a while, since the divergence over time and landmass has left distinct changes. It's so squirrelly that just the other day I passed a roadsign for Printmaking Row and - being so used to Algonquian-based place names - my brain rescrambled it as Prawngkmatong without a hitch.

[@georgia2321]

This is 1000% accurate. I live in Oklahoma (in the Chickasaw Nation portion) and there are place names from all the different tribes who were forced here from legit everywhere. He totally pronounced Eufaula right though.. I was kinda shocked ngl

[@Ennead13x]

@@georgia2321 For non-Americans, the big, basic example is Arkansas vs Kansas vs the Arkansas River. For this show it's a hilarious juxtaposition of Simon guessing Eufaula perfectly and then SO very confidently bungling Lowe's.

[@613aristocrat]

I also note that Simon has become markedly less sensitive when it comes to murders. It's an interesting transformation.

[@TheCasualCriminalist]

My senses have apparently become blunted after less than one year of making a true crime show.

[@TheGrammarGoddess]

One of my absolute favorite things about this show is Simon’s impression of Americans. I’m in tears, I’m laughing so hard. Sometimes, it’s spot on right, as ashamed as this sometimes makes me 😂 Also: Lowe’s=Somehow turned into Lau’s 🤣🤣🤣

[@suzimonkey345]

To intentionally vanish without a trace is a terrible torture to inflict on your loved ones! Living every single day, constantly wondering what could have happened, picturing all kinds of horrors is a nightmare.

[@chocolatebunny3221]

It depends on the situation. If the family was trash then yeah dip out and let them suffer knowing that they treated you like crap.

[@daltonchaney1504]

Surprised that he nailed it first try when saying Eufaula, good job Simon!

[@georgia2321]

Same lol I just commented that in another reply. When I saw it pop up I thought no way he’d get it right haha

[@Trayton]

He got Eufaula but failed at Lowes lol

[@VacomaTeParjila]

I love the request for holy bullets 🤣 Almost died laughing. It reminds me of when I was buying some hollow points for my 9mm one of the boxes were labeled "silver tipped" so I always like to joke that those are for if I come across a vampire 🤣

[@BigDawgRey95]

It's entirely possible that the enormous rainstorm shortly into the initial search washed the gun away. They were on a steep incline, it isn't that hard to imagine a small handgun being washed away and naturally buried somewhere far enough away from the bodies that it is basically impossible to find.

[@zirklutesKerpa]

But what about the bag?

[@bw7754]

The way he pronounced Lowe’s almost made me spit up my water, thank you for that laugh Simon ❤️

[@codyleslie478]

Yea I was really suprised!

[@eeeeeeee60]

"... And if you're listening from your own shipping container, I'm sorry" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm over the edge

[@freyamcbain4160]

Fact boi, crime, excellent script and edits, and an adorable little one?! The perfect youtube channel 🥰

[@WeCanCos]

"What's that in America? LOOOOWWSSS" ~Whistle Boy

[@Madeleine_des_Esseintes]

Whistle Boy is just the most adorable nickname 😂

[@SheikhMawini]

It took me a bit to figure out what Laos in America was.

[@albertgreene313]

Laowos? Laaaaowwz? Lauz? Oh! Lowe’s!

[@ddawe31635]

Yea, Lowe's! As in swing low...

[@wanchanga22]

lol i was confused for a sec, like wtf is laows?

[@mollybennett3291]

Most town or local fire departments have carbon monoxide detectors and fire alarms, they might not be able to give them out for free but I’m pretty sure you can get a discount if you buy/ ask them for some. Fire fighters and EMT generally perfer being able to sleep through the night, and that’s a lot easier to do when you have the proper equipment

[@dylandehart5246]

So Ive heard this story before, but I'm still going to watch because I really enjoy Simon's reactions.

[@stephjovi]

I've heard it on the podcast version and still want to see him talk about it and see Jens memes

[@kawaiijamaican112206]

I just unleashed the ugliest laugh the way he pronounced Lowe's this man is so precious protect him at all costs

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

your originality is quite stunning

[@ynk-4372]

Another Jamaican watches Simon 🙀 Big Up!

[@benjamingrunbaum3601]

alright, this is maybe the 10th or 15th video i've seen from Simon and I'm starting to appreciate the humor to the point that I've subscribed. congrats!

[@requiredparticular6831]

Simon, don’t feel bad… I’ve been a citizen of the US (Massachusetts) since birth and while I know all the states and where they are, even I “know what’s going on” in between! I do want to thank Callum for doing this story right. I’ve heard it before but on one of those channels that likes to play up the “supernatural” whenever possible. 🤦🏻

[@Sunnyandshiny777]

Shocked that you pronounced Eufaula right haha. A lot of “weird sounding” American town names are actually of indigenous origins. There are multiple Eufaulas, including one in Alabama with a beautiful lake.

[@LovelyInfiniti]

That’s my hometown in AL! I’m always shocked when it’s pronounced right too lol.

[@georgia2321]

How cool! There’s a Lake Eufaula in Oklahoma as well. Eufaula is a Creek word and it’s more-than-likely that the name in Oklahoma comes from those who were forced here from the southeastern US.

[@tamarawinnett4138]

Yeah, especially in Oklahoma. Used to work in Oklahoma and live just a few miles from the border.

[@brennan4068]

In Oklahoma we pronounce it like “you-falla”

[@houstonbaxter5537]

Shoutout to Jen for making very enjoyable videos to watch. Editing 10/10

[@TheKingPrinny]

“First few minutes”hey look new Binging with Babish lol

[@RegrettablyLongwinded]

Bald, bearded, bespectacled KZbinrs is a whole ass KZbin niche. I realized the other day that I've at least 3 separate ones on my feed.

[@RudolvonStroheim]

"Eating McDonald's, sat by the Statue of Liberty." Mixed with that gif Jen put in there ... Rotfl.

[@lilykep]

I grew up in middle of nowhere Southeastern Oklahoma and the "Ran across some drug dealers/cookers in the woods" makes the most sense to me. There are a TON of those sorts of illicit operations in the woods. I also have a bit of a theory about the money. Drug money is hard to launder in small towns where everyone knows everyone, so there is a chance that the family ran across a small horde of illicit cash that the drug dealer has stashed for safe keeping. Presumably figuring that they hit a jackpot, this cash strapped family could have taken the money and booked it back to their car where they hid the money. The drug dealers would understandably not be ok with losing their money so they would of course stop them. They then forced the family to gather up the stolen cash, minus the one missed bag, leave their belongings and the dog in the car and march into the woods. There they shot the dad but didn't have the stomach to shoot a woman or a little girl. Knowing they couldn't leave them alive either, I think they forcibly injected the mom and daughter with an overdose of the drug they were manufacturing. The drug dealers/cookers then went back to their campsite, packed up all their cash and accoutrements and left the bodies where they lay.

[@aurorawolfe6060]

you guys should totally cover the death of Christopher Case, he died under mysterious circumstances after a week of telling his friends he was cursed by a witch. not that I actually believe a witch's curse killed him, it's just an interesting & bizarre story!

[@mellvee]

Mr. Ballen covered that episode. It was fantastic! I believe he titled it "Witchcraft Killed This Man".

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

Mental illness is a major issue, and I know a lot of witches, really they have better things to do, plus their ideas on karma really does limit what actions they take.

[@jordanalandry1866]

That is a weird one, not easily explained, bedtime stories also did it, he was very mentally and physically sound guy, very spiritual etc, and the way he died was def unusual

[@panqueque445]

"Packing up their car like zombies" Bruh that video is like 2 FPS. It's a literal slideshow of photos, how anyone can even attempt to figure out their mental state from that is ridiculous.

[@emily.g.929]

Yes! I’ve said this from the beginning! Idk why people are like “they’re walking like zombies!” All I see is a person walking frozen at the car, then half way across the driveway, then disappear, then at the car again. Literally that’s it. Just pictures from like once per second!

[@ashleyhaine3361]

Im really enjoying this new channel Simon. And all your channels really. You must be a busy Boy!! Cheers Mate n keep em coming 🇦🇺

[@Blackrain7070]

Even tho this is a fucking wild and depressing case, at least the dog was okay in the end after nearly starving...

[@michaelvaughn1496]

"Look on the bright side of life....*whistle whistle whistle*...always look on the bright side of life..." Who's a good boy?

[@LilDitBit]

I always think that too in case!

[@trevorjoneill707]

really???

[@unlocated7448]

I’ll take a dead dog and living six year old thanks.

[@SamIAm10262]

@@unlocated7448 pretty much all of us would, but the point is that at least SOMEONE lived in this mess.

[@HavianEla]

My sister and I both have bipolar depression - I take my medicine, and she… does not. Sharon sounds a LOT like someone with lots of manic episodes. If she’s anything like my sister was - I can see her killing all three of them

[@christopherkappelman1964]

Was? I hope everything is somewhat okay. If not, my condolences.

[@adde9506]

It also sounds plausible that Bobby might have killed them to save them, if he was asking the pastor for magic bullets.

[@KingJohnMichael]

The whole thing reminds me of Chris Benoit

[@HavianEla]

@@KingJohnMichael Who is he? Sorry for my ignorance.

[@HavianEla]

@@christopherkappelman1964I really appreciate the consideration, man. Whatever faith or values you have, my family could for sure use any prayers or good vibes

[@aesopsinspiration]

I'm SO GLAD that I just found your channel...you're so hilarious while covering dark topics, and it doesn't seem disrespectful at all.

[@jeydex5348]

"It could be YOU" Me: lol like it ever gonna happen Robber with a hammer right behind me: WHOA

[@Kaltagstar96]

I love how this person said that they had cursed Simon and he's got a really lovely daughter and is doing damn well for himself on KZbin, is this the first example of a positive curse?

[@crystalratclffe3258]

I was once driving down I5 in California and there was a tour bus with Japanese tourists at a rest area taking pictures of what to me was nothing. So I asked the driver what was up. He told me that was the tour....driving the "nothing" of I5 from San Fransico to LA. The Japanese tourists are fascinated by the open spaces, something they don't have in Japan.

[@caravanrose]

Wait until they add the Death Valley leg to the tour 🤯🤯🤯

[@wendychavez5348]

Nothing abnormal about liking true crime and not liking spirituality or the supernatural. I actually find that pretty consistent, though of course plenty of people like both. Simon, you do you!

[@elisaswanson577]

"You're not gonna be able to camp forever...." We actually have so many people working remotely due to covid restrictions that our rv community is booming in the US. Lots of people have pulled up stakes and pick up stakes every couple of weeks. So that's now a thing 💁‍♀️

[@Hezabelle77]

I'm one of them! 3.5mos now. Already did Mass to CA and now trekking back. It's been an adventure!

[@katfayegarrett3872]

As always....Simon, i absolutely love your disgust with the existence of ghosts!!!!!!!