discord's dumbest update...

Discord has revolutionized the internet. Gone are the days of Discord bots. Welcome to the era of Discord apps.
Yep. There's a video about how Discord changed the name of bots to apps. However this isn't 10 minutes and 37 seconds of yap. Because it turns out there are SOME valid reasons for this change (and there is also a real reason that makes me question the mental state of Discord)
On the other hand though, there are a handful of new discord experiments that are coming out for bots. And these beta features will improve Discord bots/apps and give them more tools to make our lives a bit easier (with good formatting).
Oh and a viewer also found a bug that allows you to crash everyone's Discord...
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00:00 - Change isn't always good
01:14 - Reason 1 on why this happened
02:02 - Reason 2
02:26 - Reason 3: ODST
04:19 - Great new bot features
05:23 - Subtext
05:38 - Media Gallery
06:25 - The best feature: Improved Modals
08:25 - People broke user apps already...
09:19 - And also scammed with them...

[@AquaQuokka]

4:54 This isn't actually the case. You could always use buttons outside of embeds, it's just that people tended to use embeds. The actual change here is inline buttons, which means you can have them in the middle of a message, instead of at the bottom.

[@nm_9_]

I’m a developer but I have no clue what inline means 💀 EDIT:i read the question wrong originally 💀

[@roddraft3466]

oo

[@universaltoons]

​@@nm_9_ in line

[@universaltoons]

hi

[@user-jc9al1vurt]

I never even seen a message on Discord by a bo- I mean app that has a button in the middle between messages

[@Rebelinoo]

Keeping a tally of stuff discord is doing thats downright stupid: - Not removing "Join Servers for You" permission - Letting bots be named "Discord" and "Discord Support"

[@CutestNikki]

"Error: Application name cannot contain 'discord'"

[@HarrisonMartinson]

- Not stopping fake links This one drives me nuts. They've already stopped you from sticking sneaky things in there like invisible characters, and you can't put an http(s) url in. But literally all you have to do is take that part off and it works lmao. Everyone saw this coming

[@Ermageeerd]

@@HarrisonMartinson a fake character also works lol

[@seifenspender]

@@CutestNikkiWe need this

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

theres probably SOME use cases where join servers for you is actually useful... like uh .... uh .......... yeah im drawing a blank

[@TheBestCat1290]

Changing the bot's name to 'apps' definitely won't be confusing at all when you remember the mobile and desktop apps exist

[@ericwildfong]

They were always called "Apps" technically. You have to made an app on the developer portal, then you add a bot user to said app. Now that there are slash commands, you don't always need to add the bot user to your server to use the apps slash commands. Some apps don't even need a bot user to provide slash commands. If all you're doing is responding to slash commands, your app/bot doesn't even need to be in the server as a user. Also the use of "applications" when referring to giving another developer access to your API isn't uncommon. Twitch, Google, Spotify, and Microsoft all also do it. Someone authorizes your app, then your app can do stuff on their behalf

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

It will say "Discord for iOS [APP] to continue please enter your pass-word"

[@dadamaldasstuff1816]

Plus in forum channel threads, the person who started the thread is called APP.

[@billyhatcher643]

its more confusing and stupider and him talking about the reason of discord doing this change is still confusing as fuck

[@ericwildfong]

@@billyhatcher643 is it more confusing though? You always authorized an "application" when you added a bot anyway, and does discord really need a justifiable reason for changing what they decide to call part of their own software?

[@josueramos412]

0:27 "This change is f*cking pointless" You're so real for that

[@samagraarohan2513]

guys look an app

[@JmKrokY]

Fr

[@zizikim3174]

@BTSFAN899 what is this overly lowkey uttp variant

[@thecroll]

wow, I can imagine some guy sitting in the localization office and saying, “Hey, why don’t we change “бот” to “приложение” in russian localization", and then after an hour of testing, he is like “we screwed up. change it back to "бот".

[@_kitaes_]

i saw screenshots of bots having "прл" tag they used it to shorten that thing but it turned into a random set of letters

[@_kitaes_]

just imagine this: bot first gets renamed to "application", then it gets shortened to "apl"

[@huhbruhnoway]

​@@_kitaes_ so they made up their own way of making приложение shorter, that's soo bad

[@pitust]

I love how the CSS class name for the "APP" label is called "botText". Gotta love consistency.

[@_kitaes_]

lol

[@ShermTank7272]

Take it from a developer _(not of discord; of other things)_ - changing the name of fields and variables can be a huge pain in the bot. Er, butt. Seriously though, making a change to an internal variable (rather than displayed text) can be such a pain, since if you miss even one corresponding change elsewhere in your code that can break a lot of stuff.

[@_kitaes_]

​@@ShermTank7272i'm pretty sure it's ccs only so you would only have to change it once in css

[@kacperkonieczny7333]

​@@_kitaes_ and also in the html preprocessor

[@user-rd5qf4oh6u]

​@@_kitaes_ Not really, if more parts of the css files (yes, files, plural) use it in other selectors, you can end messing up the app. Plus you would need to update the documentation. It's just not a "one change". Also it's better that you don't change anything if it is not broken for no reason.

[@daenite2480]

Changing the name of bots to apps is like changing twitter to X. But, well at least Discord had more reason to do it. Overall good changes for bots- apps at least. ... I'm gonna keep calling them bots.

[@drewo.127]

Just like how we still call X Twitter!

[@user-jc9al1vurt]

@@drewo.127 Well X still has the domain name "twitter" so elon still doesn't mind people calling X, Twitter

[@JmKrokY]

Fr

[@Teekls]

@@user-jc9al1vurthe does though, when you type “twitter” inside of a tweet, it autocorrects to “x”

[@giulgu17]

I mean I don't think Discord's gonna be making the name change a big deal, unlike Elon Musk and his fragile ego

[@banikula4833]

CROATIA MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!!! WRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

[@misklujacy6117]

that looks the same as polish wth

[@SalanTheGreat]

​@@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv who tf asked you bot oh no sry "application"

[@misklujacy6117]

@@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv i asked + stop self advertising + who asked about u to self promote

[@taxmanduo]

@@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv i asked + ur content sucks + u suck!

[@TsGOD_]

Ja sam iz Hrvatske(I am from Croatia)

[@itzgrinchy]

Discord running around like headless chickens trying to figure out how to run the platform. But hey, at least we got some good 'app' tools

[@LarsIsHereYT]

xd

[@LarsIsHereYT]

@BTSFAN899 faek

[@user-jc9al1vurt]

"It's as if a kid named it, actually a kid did name it" -NTTS Bro really roasted the richest man alive 💀💀💀💀

[@BodyssStitchy]

He isn't wrong tho. 🤣💀

[@Yezpahr]

At the same time he also roasted one of the top 5 biggest scammers. (1) "If you buy a Tesla, you buy an appreciating asset, not a depreciating asset". (2) Tesla Truck: "this beats RAIL, today" (5 years ago, still nothing). (3) "From LA to New York, no hands on the steering wheel." turned into "Always be ready to take over from the murderous AI that aims at ladies with strolling carts". (4) "The ease of charging up anywhere you go." turned into "get approval of municipality to place it, pay for high-power on-street plug that fails in -10°C." What a brilliant man, I must say. Truly the creme de la crêpe.

[@NoTextToSpeech]

roasted the richest kid* alive

[@NULLHybrid]

​@@NoTextToSpeech Bro NTTS you are so wild for this ☠️ I hope Elon doesn't send an airstrike to your location

[@HelpingHand-00010]

​@@NoTextToSpeech ur age 😅😅😅

[@AmazingLube]

"Elongated Muskrat" killed me 😂😂😂

[@shameimaru_aya]

Elon Muskox

[@heavyweaponsguy6284]

6:29 most commenters: ARE YOU CHALLENGING ME?

[@cozzy124]

edge to speech

[@Aceedyt]

Discord finally doing something other than changing the mobile UI: 💀

[@ranjitmandal1612]

They still not gave us the member list by swipe

[@JmKrokY]

Both are for the worse 😔

[@that1guysal]

They changed the mobile ui again today 💀

[@JmKrokY]

@@that1guysal For the better or?

[@Square789_]

Program? App Website? App Game? App Script? App Bot? App Daemon? App Service? App OS Kernel? Believe it or not, app

[@Archimedes.5000]

True, the word "app" is the worst thing that has happened to software terminology I refuse to call anything "app" except for android apps

[@MrCommentGod]

*The bots are now owned by Apple*

[@Gamatoto2038]

Y

[@allanodin512]

​@@Gamatoto2038 gamatoto can you please actually give me catseyes instead of xp

[@NULLHybrid]

​@@allanodin512 battle cats player

[@wingedcatgirl]

Ooh, whisperspace. Tumblr has long been the only platform that had decent whisperspace (talking in the tags). This still isn't as good as that, but it's better than most other platforms I can think of.

[@Im-VT]

>complains about discord yappology >proceeds to yapsplain

[@JmKrokY]

🥶

[@laughing747]

thank you for pitching down the transition ping sound effect, kept freaking out it was me

[@Liggliluff]

It's actually cool that Discord does use translations for those things. Other platforms would just ignore it.

[@Archimedes.5000]

Yeah very cool people sure like seeing a random acronym nobody ever uses in their lives instead of a word that has already been borrowed 100 years ago

[@Liggliluff]

@@Archimedes.5000 i meant in both cases. Translating both BOT and APP

[@PoopooumgoodTTV-Official]

thx Ntts I have been wateing for this to come out i love ur vids!

[@IndigoPolecat]

8:12 This isn't the fault of the user, but rather Microsoft (as far as you can get with victim blaming at least). As you mentioned the form has a warning to not submit a password, however there is no indication from Microsoft that the "single use code" is a password, simply that it can be "used with your account" which sounds a lot like a verification code.

[@SirInfectionton]

I remember I when I came on discord and looked at one of my bots in my server and I saw the dumbass "app" tag near its name

[@FizzoRBLX]

'Discord just had THE Update of All Time' basically happens in every video and it never gets old 😂.

[@scoombria_]

4:19: Bot 4:20: PRILOJENIYE (As a Russian speaker, I declare that this looks extremely stupid) 4:21: Bot again

[@0_3113]

this gave me the exact same feeling that i get when roblox changed places into experiences.

[@AEGISAOE]

1:03 its about time for me to become russian

[@Sellouted]

NTTS is a literal machine to scan every single thing in discord 💀

[@EnBunk]

A naked man fears no pickpocket.

[@ScribbleTAS]

7:40 Wait a sec DV8FromTheWorld was/is the person responsible for the Java implementation of the discord bots... sorry, *apps*

[@dikshitarajkonwar5097]

0:39 that wow is so cute

[@c4ndyh3artzz]

this has made pluralkit so much more confusing for non systems because we told everyone that they’re bots but. now they’re APPS

[@crackedcocainer]

what

[@mtst-ms8qy]

I don't think discord cares much about proper localization. I once submitted a report about translation mistake in Nitro theme name and it took them 6 MONTHS to respond. Quality of translation worsened significantly once Discord moved from community translation to some small group which you can't contact with other than through the white page of doom and gloom. Some strings take literally years to be corrected. It seems translators don't use the product they translate, because most of mistakes I saw can be easily spotted if you use Discord regularly, which is typical for community, but it seems the context given to translators is too narrow to make the changes consistent with each other.

[@Liggliluff]

Discord still uses "kbps" in Swedish despite this not being how it's formatted in Swedish. "Account Standing" is misunderstood as "account standing up". Still several places in Discord using "Apr 9, 2024" in all locales even though only one locale is using that format and the rest is either "9 April 2024" or "2024 April 9".

[@mtst-ms8qy]

@@Liggliluff Also when they revamped client icons they changed threads' icon from something resembling forum threads, to threads as in sewing, but at the same time they translated it as "Branches" in Ukrainian localization. The only other option where it would sound somewhat natural would be to translate as lit. "Current"/"Stream". If dogfooding was a norm in the localization team, I think this would've been communicated internally way back when this changes occured.

[@Daniel20307]

The Apps thing makes sense on a functionality standpoint. I think what they are trying to do is transition away from the schema of what a bot was (basically automated chat manager), making it instead like an add-on for slack or twitch. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future they added app hosting services, and customizable dashboard tabs for each of the apps. **They are moving to a SaaS schema** I personally would love to see a server stats app with google analytics level functionality, or a moderator dashboard with an easy to access to the ban words list, messages needing review, or possibly an event manager with functionalities like EventBrite PS: This is an optimistic outtake on the situation, who knows where this is going.

[@gaimnbro9337]

3:09 "actually a kid did name it" 💀💀💀

[@whalefilmzthewhale2574]

I love the timestamp/chapter labeled reason 3: ODST. I love odst so much.

[@navoldnavinci]

0:44 I acually use discord in Croatian. I know Croatian better than English. (No I am not Croatian, I am Slovenian)

[@BeegBoss326]

Love your Videos ❤

[@BeegBoss326]

@@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv bruh you only habe one Video and are you maybe trying to advertise your Chanel?

[@AAA-vq6lz]

@@BeegBoss326 by interacting with bots you're making the problem worse. Act as if they aren't even there next time

[@someever2]

​@@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv shut up app

[@Uzknown]

This definitely is one of the updates of all time.

[@freemovies411]

el0ngated muskrat XD thank you for this gift. And kisses.

[@Yabai-Wa-Yo]

Did they remove Favorite Gifs from the Mobile app?? I can't see them anymore, and if there's the tab, clicking it does nothing- On Desktop they work fine as usual, maybe a lil slow to load

[@nm_9_]

Might be a glitch

[@farawayxgalaxy]

As a system who has to use pluralkit: we’re just really happy we can’t be made fun of for being a bot anymore with the bot tag. It’s more reasonable to think as well “ah this person is speaking through an app” vs “a bot is speaking to me” imo

[@Spikeyboii]

Finally, I know the reason why my discord keeps crashing last week.

[@JohnnyBean78]

You had me at Elongated Muskrat 😂

[@derram0k]

So it's because the assumed knowledge level of the userbase has dropped. People don't understand what a bot is anymore, but at least you got that therapy session out of the way.

[@Radkeyboard7984]

5:27 bro should have grouped the tabs we shouldn’t have seen into a group or in another window of your browser like come on how you could mess up this bad Edit: just realised that it’s part of the video

[@Creeperfun12]

are you awake right now?

[@Creeperfun12]

Is you awake?

[@deltacx1059]

9:49 nope still absolutely dumb, they have been teaching digital citizenship in schools for a while now and any functional adults have enough critical thinking to know.

[@DazlMusic]

This is the update of all time. I can't believe how much they improved the!

[@Divi3nea]

Omd!! They changed !!

[@josueramos412]

And don't forget about the !!

[@x.candi.x]

omg they also

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Bruh

[@Fat_Cat4434]

Dang bro, I realized it like 10-20 days ago when I tried to create my own bot. I thought something wrong with my bot but nah, it's just discord decide to change word "BOT" into "APP" which is sounds really stupid to me. However, I can understand discord that he force to change it to not anger his community and this is, a pretty nice move. Also I will be super happy if my bot can send message *after* the image, this feature would be cool. Thanks discord and NTTS for giving us information and creating tools for our comfort

[@Zakyeite]

yeah so discord doesn't fix the grey screen when you start the app but they change "bot" for "apps" 😐

[@mrredstonia]

2:20 Alright hear me out.. *Bot Directory*

[@sunglasses3379]

There are also applications (not previously called bots) in the app directory.

[@nanopi]

That bot in the last video (These 6 Discord Scams are EVERYWHERE!) that managed to call itself Discord and was labelled BOT was labelled as APP by the time you recorded that video. Surely, it can't possibly make the distinction between Discord itself and user-created things more confusing?

[@VladisCrafter]

There's a funny yet stupid thing with shortening russian word "ПРИЛОЖЕНИЕ" (application). Firstly, I guess they wanted to shorten it like everything else. So what they did? "ПРЛ". Three letters like APP? Yes. Actually means something? No. It's just a random nonsense of lettters. I could never realize that "ПРЛ" is short "ПРИЛОЖЕНИЕ"! Not because I'm stupid, but cuz it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that's it...

[@horember]

This is outright silly. The prior tag "BOT" is short and simple, yet "APP" ._.

[@PloVnt]

Why not "ПРИЛ"

[@vladik4il]

@@PloVnt because it doesn't make sense too and it's 4 letters

[@infamearts]

@@vladik4il it does you stinky

[@maciejkag2735]

The media gallery is actually extremely useful. I was recently developing a ticket bot that would send transcripts in JSON files but also some ticket information in an embed and the file currently displays above the embed which is quite confusing for the user.

[@Memyinietylko]

The Polish Translation of all of this 💀

[@GhastCraftHD]

4:12 What a banger comparison!

[@OverZeelous]

"Do not wack off to me saying this" you fool, you've just invited it!

[@johanildpg5414]

These new features are actually so huge, I will surely use them when they get added to programming library im using

[@AgentRikuOfficial]

I'm convinced they executed the original devs that did a great job making a great platform... half a fucking decade ago. And ever since then they've been shitting it up

[@MizeLOL]

Now every time you see a bot in any videogame, call it "application"

[@mixerdude]

I’m still calling them bots.

[@RustyBust1]

0:52 Think about if in English, the "APP" tag were spelled out as "APPLICATION." That's long as well.

[@SMJ52]

When sky is the limit, why are there footprints on the moon?

[@villocity5794]

how old is this recording 😭 didn't this happen like 3-4 months ago (the bots tag switching to apps tag)

[@gatto_furry]

You finally mentioned this.

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

What I wanna know is, why did they think implementing swipe to reply a second time was a good idea, when the first round had so visceral a negative reception?

[@AEGISAOE]

6:20 there is no soul who actually reads rules, lol. imagine wasting time copy-paste someone's else rules and nobody reads them

[@twy_]

btw that beta limit of 25 members for user Apps has been updated to 200 members 3 days ago. They just have not updated the UI and documentations.

[@Burbie]

did u make a video on free nitro with epic games again yet

[@wpsp2010]

7:07 okay sussy baka

[@Creeperfun12]

Among us sussy fortnite balls

[@frenchiesottises8193]

I love how they do all this instead of just making a thing where bots/apps can't use "Discord" as a name. The program's already got a thing where it changes your four digit tag if you change your username to that cause you can't have your username and four digit tag being the same thing for some reason.

[@xMrAfonso]

The "discord staff" member is actually developer of the java discord api library.

[@ChezzNewbie]

I watch all of his videos till the end just for that final kiss. I can't sleep at night without NTTS's goodnight virtual kiss.

[@scratchyxd]

As a fellow croatian, the name "bot" would work more since it's just either "bot" or "robot" when translated in Croatian.

[@JustATempest]

The pop-up box question you called it correctly

[@Diddz]

the red download attachment "button" with the two yellow arrows i saw as mcdonalds for a sec

[@SuperBro112Lol]

Also if you change language to russian then if you hover over :check_mark: БОТ then you will see "Подтверждённое приложение" which means "Verified app"

[@littlejack59]

"I get of accounts shived down my throats every time i get on" Brother that has been the case on youtube, instagram, and even reddit for like years. Im pretty you got some confirmation bias.

[@RootBeerBender69420]

1:08 All (at least to my knowledge) Cyrillic language variations of Discord have it as 《Бот》well at least I know Українська does.

[@illarem]

0:40 That's actually the same in Lithuanian. Imagine chatting while Arcane says you levelled up

[@SurajGrewal]

Calling it app is better since bots traditionally used to mean a mechanical electronic instrument for repetitive task

[@antmot3533]

Finally a bot update, only a few years or so

[@Mikaelvafflus-ux9uf]

Great vid, a update how sweet

[@RafaelScarpa]

Only a week late! On time as always!

[@thejoker7705]

everyone:"discord" Me:"THIS CORD"

[@LucarnAnderson]

When I first saw they’re changing bot name I instantly thought of ways scammers will be able to scam people more with it. Because some people won’t know app means it’s a bot.

[@infinitivez]

I do love the new media changes, it'll make forums and other things, so much easier! no more users posting 8 different messages, just to show off their latest build or to send screen shots of bugs.

[@MikeyTV10]

6:17 Lovely! Now any server I have picture embed permissions I can send my pixel art that's small enough to look like a custom emoji! Custom emojis anywhere!

[@Azoraqua]

DV8FromTheWorld? Is that the same guy that made JDA (Discord Bot library for Java)?

[@Morocco567]

I love ur content

[@Leafeon64]

oh yeah when you where talking about the crashbot, i remembered me and my friend made a sticker from a gif in a server and then whenever she sent it to me it would just crash my discord and i have no idea why, but it's only me that it does it to

[@Leafeon64]

we just tried it again and it no longer works

[@alxwuz1]

he making out the slums with this one 🔥

[@uwa-chan]

i can listen to ntts talking for hours

[@computermariobross]

bros at discord really think that changing the name of bots will make people believe that there are no bots in discord

[@LittleCowMoo]

4:24 new app changes*

[@IIGrayfoxII]

0:24 Ah the old bush fire danger sign.

[@chimera1767]

One man killed arch duke fernadad and now we have hentai

[@MinecraftLabRats]

discord made that an applications names can't contain the word "discord"

[@bueno224]

2 for 1 combo is crazy LOL

[@ProfSplendorFaction]

I had a question about if there was a way to check if a discord server link goes to where it says it goes without clicking it or joining the server and endangering my account or sanity? I'm asking because I need to be able to report a server without having discord ban my account just for being in a degen server.

[@GoddessZex]

2:09 im weak LMAO