The disturbing jungle photos no one can explain

2 girls disappear in the Panamanian jungle... then someone finds their camera revealing 90 strange photos of their final moments, leaving investigators baffled.
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[@infinitypgg9902]

If this man was a history teacher no student would fail

[@cinderellie9583]

Facts!!

[@offthebeatenpath3309]

I actually had a history teacher that he really reminds me of, that was the only class that I ever got higher than a barely passing grade. We need people like him teaching.

[@thebloodmoonwarrior]

Or fall a sleep

[@lincoln1886]

Agreed

[@septembersapphire347]

I agree, he has a way about him that keeps you drawn to him and want to listen to his stories.

[@bigdog6230]

One of the strangest things about this story to me is Mr Ballen discovered tiktok before KZbin

[@MistahKayotic420]

bahaha seriously

[@TammieBuckeye]

I thought that too.. about tiktok before KZbin

[@DavidMartin-rl4ov]

Very clever, sir!

[@adnitesean5005]

He built different

[@mariatajbhai]

🤭 ikr

[@nicolii7321]

It's so creepy how they were making distress calls within the first hour. And the double deleted pic? And scattered clothes? And perfectly placed backpack later on? Definitely killed.

[@whowhowho5036]

Please DO NOT EVER go into a jungle or native or indigenous area especially in Latin America. The people don’t like visitors or intruders. Yes maybe they did tours but they probably did it to make more money easily. Hence the other remains. They hate anyone not from their tribes/area. How do I know this? I’m Mexican born. But i am mixed with European ancestry and i live & was raised in the US. I worked in a rehab facility and the mother of one of my patients was also Mexican but she was from the jungles of Puebla. Like deep jungle. They’re civilized but within their own tribes. They don’t like being around outsiders even if they’re from the same state. I never in a million years would have thought that a fellow Mexican would be so hateful towards me BECAUSE of me being Mexican but from “the city” she used to call me a city girl and a woman of the streets and of the world not traditional and not of good traditions and whitewashed. I told her i would love to visit the jungles she was from and she said Oh No you can’t come we’ll never let you in even scientists have to ask us for permission and then our town people decide who comes in and who doesn’t and we don’t like intruders because we don’t know what type of ideas they’re bringing in. She HATED me so much because i was close enough to being of her people but not by her tradition standards. She called my mother worse things (my mom worked there too) because she had been divorced. So yeah they have a hatred’s towards outsiders. I’m part indigenous because my dad has some Chichimeccan but even then absolute prejudice from her because i don’t look the part and im not from her tribe. Anyone from the outside coming in is seen as a threat with hatred. Her husband was also very inappropriate to most female staff. She said girls from her village get married at 15 and start having kids and fulfilling their house duties. They just have different ideologies and ways of living. God forbid you offend them in any way. I never did thank God. I was always super careful & i wanted her to accept & like me but i was an unwanted alien to her. Mind you im fairly classy and modest no strange piercings or tattoos or hair. Like im average. They also hate women that wear makeup, to them that automatically makes you a sinner. So yeah you never know how another culture even within your own may treat you, let alone someone from a further world.

[@Sb22-ru2tk]

​@@whowhowho5036this is what I was thinking. Those countries faced the worst of slavery, colonialism, and oppression from the US and other European countries. Most south American countries lost a lot of good people gaining their independence, and even then, foreign intervention from the US and other countries still fucks them over. And you go over there as a bunch of dumb, happy, white bitches, with expensive equipment, and go hiking in their land. Yeah, your ass is getting merc'd . I wouldn't be surprised if the Panama government was covering this shit up. And the US most likely knows what happened.

[@bradsanders407]

So the killer allowed them to keep attempting to make emergency calls? Really? You believe that? Seems pretty stupid to me. Perfectly placed backpack? As opposed to a not Perfectly placed backpack? The killer then said to hell with taking the cash in the bag? Lol "definitely killed" uh no. Definitely died of exposure.

[@bradsanders407]

​@nickers7409 "trust me bro"

[@DarkKin-ob8if]

Not sure you understand what a jungle is.... ever tried to get service even just out in the deep country anywhere? No I guess not. Otherwise you would understand that a jungle doesn't have cell phone towers in it

[@neilmashburn1984]

From just over 100k to 7.18m subs in 2 years is insane, congrats to MrBallen. Love the stories

[@maiterapatsa6549]

I know right. I remember this video and he was fairly new to this but now he’s a goat.

[@dankeyes292]

since you posted this 7 months ago he has gone from 7.18m to 8.06m! Legend! Awesome seeing his success.

[@nikkib473]

8.2mil

[@dankeyes292]

@@nikkib473 140k subscribers in a month! Mr. Ballen is a legend.

[@user-ci7vu7eo9w]

First time watching this guy.How he sucesed so fast?

[@Zarnold]

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[@ashmaybe9634]

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[@OptimusPrime12190]

Not tryna be mean but what does that have to do w/anything and thank you for your service.

[@DN580]

Did you ever find your lost leg?

[@gagewiggins2737]

@@DN580 raw but gold🥲

[@bettingarrow8358]

This is what I like. No music, Not an annoying voice, straight to the point, a clear yet intriguing voice and not an ad in sight! Mrballen, my new favourite story teller

[@djrayford83]

Facts. I’m so happy he’s not monotone like that one ANNOYING AHH STORYTELLER WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED 😤😤 keep up the good work my brudda

[@Figmentofyourimagination7]

@@djrayford83 im curious who you’re thinking of🤣

[@castianplagued]

Couldn't agree more. 👍

[@snhiggins1]

I don't mind ads let the man make some money...it's just when there's an ad every five minutes that's urks me

[@BReed-gk6gs]

@@Figmentofyourimagination7 Burger King foot lettuce

[@redemption1188]

The tour guide apparently went in their room while they were missing, searched where the phone charges were, stayed in their room for 30 minutes and then left. He didn't call the police right away but waited 10 HOURS before reporting them missing...that's more than enough time to do what he needed to do and take care of the bodies...One last thing, for some reasons he found most of the evidence even if it was in the middle of a huge jungle in pitch black...sounds like he was the one who put their body parts there from the first place...

[@TheRockgremlin]

I've researched this case as well and I agree with your theory. The tour guide had motive and opportunity in this case, and he failed to report key information in a timely manner -- that's a HUGE red flag.

[@mariawestman9026]

Motive was…what ? If it’s the guide it should be other people knows about it and even help him. 5 dead humans…who was the other 3 dead ? Are people scared to silence ? Whom are they MOST AFRAID OF ??? No one collects the 30.000 dollar rewards and bc of that I really do understand they are scared 😱 Was it the guide who “found” the spot where the remains were at ?? Was he asking for the reward ?? Sorry my poor English , still struggling to spell … 🙏

[@JackDiamond21]

@@TheRockgremlin I read about this case all the time I'm an expert 😂

[@andrewlocke3389]

​@Maria Westman your English is good!

[@dustinice1077]

​@@mariawestman9026 sadly there never truly is a good motive. He could have just killed them or maybe intended to SA them and it got out of hand or really anything. Nowadays people kill and do heinous things as if there aren't ever consequences

[@DravenGal]

Writing from the future here! Mr. Ballen, you have become one of the best storytellers out there! But one can easily see that happening from watching your earliest videos. Your voice is epic, your explanations clear and concise, the details are amazing and your empathy shines through!

[@AnaGlue]

“I’m NoT gOoD aT YOuTuBe” yet he breaks down the story better than anyone else I’ve heard talk about it...

[@MrBallen]

Hahah thanks for the support!!! 😂

[@iaintwillielumplumpnephewd1350]

Alphabet Boy Doublespeak 🧐

[@h0lm1]

He's humble, a feature i miss in many human beings.

[@YouTookMyNameAgain]

Not being fancy at KZbin is a good thing here - bells and whistles get tiresome - fancy intros with special effects get tiresome - I like how he just comes on talking - he cuts straight to the chase. The dialogue and subtle editing combine to make a clean, potent, likable product. Refreshing, no bad aftertaste

[@davidmoak1219]

Personally I thought it was the most boring, bland, and uninteresting rendition of a boring story that's been easily explained. I love Ballen's content usually but this one was a giant miss.

[@samuelandrade3884]

I'm watching this video in 2022 and I heard you say you wasn't good on "KZbin" yet, but that you would improve. Dude, you are, today, the best storyteller on KZbin. You did it!

[@anna_25]

Im actually a teacher and I'm going to teach my first in-person semester in a few days, I've been binge watching this dude because 1. the stories are great and 2. he has an amazing way of telling things, I want to understand how he can catch people's attention! so so so good

[@jaquanthefirstborn7106]

Fr this dude a top tier storyteller

[@patrickc9670]

IT's fun seeing how much progress he's made in this timeframe

[@nicksshitbro]

Absolutely. Im so glad I discovered him! His newer episodes are awesome, too! I have his notifications turned on. He's the only KZbinr I've actually enabled notifications for.

[@patc7573]

yeah wtf , i was thinking you're the best iv seen!!

[@theEdgeCrusher12]

Comparing your old content to your new ones makes me appreciate how far you've improved over the past few years. And now watching you on this video acknowledging that you're not very good on KZbin make me want to go back in time when you first posted this and tell you, "Don't worry, bro. Wait a couple of years and you'll own this." 😊

[@michaeldoran4367]

This is an uncomfortable poop. It is mostly diarrhea. It's uncomfortable, but at the same time it is one of the most satisfying poops. It feels like a load is being taken off of my stomach area. Also, I didn't have a good poop for 2 or 3 days, so this feels relieving😮

[@theEdgeCrusher12]

@@michaeldoran4367 Reading this comment while having a bad case of explosive diarrhea is the most meta thing that ever happened to me so far.

[@michaeldoran4367]

@theEdgeCrusher12 A lot of my Commenting is about my current or most recent poop

[@essohnalvine154]

It's really sad if only they knew

[@thelaterix]

​@@michaeldoran4367bruh 😅 😂😂😂

[@Shreya-xm7eu]

Back when we werent bullying the like button

[@R.O.T.C._SEEM]

Going from tick-tock to youtube was a good move because I would have never heard of you.

[@phoenixdavida8987]

Right? Tik tok is very... Limited.

[@blavkstone1372]

Same I don't use tiktok

[@kinglandisj1087]

Same never used it

[@nd612]

Yeah, I was just moseying along then was like I will give this guy a try and not many can make my day cause I'm hard headed and people take my niceness as a weakness (good luck with that everyone) so here I am now and this guy whips around the corner and could have done a total head on collision with me but there was real thinking going on in this man while he had not much time but in his head made it from fast to slow motion to not bang into me. Phew! That dude was lucky. Lol! And I wanted to listen to him ever since. You with me?

[@haileygrey5047]

same. I don’t have it.

[@ray5185]

"I'm pretty bad at KZbin" ........has the best KZbin channel.

[@suzys8558]

LOL, he's being humble. He knows his channel is awesome! LOL

[@Kris_In_A_Box]

Indeed

[@misty4757]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@nd612]

You know it bro

[@nd612]

@@Kris_In_A_Box I like that

[@hillarierasnake9114]

All the pictures of nothing in the darkness that the girls took, those pictures were an attempt to see by using the flash. They were trying to find their way out of the jungle or trying to avoid harm period. Pitch darkness in the jungle would be such a scary thing. I think they were murdered as well. All of their remains mixed in together with other folks remains, those were just other people that fell victim to whoever killed them as well. Although experienced, the girls never should've attempted to hike an unknown place without a guide or a local to help them along their way. I can't imagine the terror the girls felt in that jungle being lost, or how horrified they were after all of their attempts to contact help were fruitless. Being lost, in the jungle, in the darkness, and then running into a stranger out there in the middle of nowhere, who you ultimately meet your end by, would be absolutely horrific.

[@Contessa6789]

Using the flash to see would be a brilliant idea and i agree that’s likely. The many attempts to access the phone may have been the other girl after the first one died or they were separated considering distress calls were made at the same time. I believe they were murdered and the killer looked through the photos and found one that either identified their location or was literally of the killer. So they brought it back to their home/base and wiped it. That couldn’t have been done by a feral person. And rules out a person starved for cash who would’ve sold the belongings. Why they were murdered? Either a serial killer or they saw something they shouldn’t have. A base for drug trafficking? secret government project? There were at least 3 other victims. I have no idea why the killer would give the phones back if they were unable to check it’s contents.

[@hillarierasnake9114]

@@Contessa6789 yes I absolutely agree. The government possibly had an operation out there in the jungle or drug traffickers caught them when the girls ran upon their location. Or maybe the government was benefiting from the local traffickers and allowing their operation to prosper and continue whilst they themselves (the government) profited as well.

[@chessgdy]

That was my exact thought too

[@WhyYoutubeWhy]

@@Contessa6789 Yeah that's what i'm thinking. As for giving the phone back with the bag and stuff, it may be as some type of warning that the authorities there would know about but can,t talk about.

[@WhyYoutubeWhy]

Oh great, I didn't think it something they could have done. It's fairly plausible.

[@burburchacha]

MrBallen, an updated rendition of this story would be highly appreciated, especially in light of the podcast 'Lost in Panama,' which has unveiled lots of previously unknown information. Plus, experiencing this narrative through your much better storytelling technique now would undoubtedly elevate the presentation!

[@saalank]

I've gotten lost in a forest after dark. I took pictures in order to see things and to find my way because it was so dark and there were cliffs on the sides of the path. It was one of the scariest experiences of my life. Seeing those pictures gave me flashbacks. They must've been horrified.

[@tanyaandresen5651]

I'm so sorry that happened to you but also glad you made it home okay.

[@handle445.]

I believed a member or members of uncontacted tribes killed those young women. There are unknown tribes in south america that have never seen a modern person before. Or a dangerous person from that continent killed them. I don't believe the girls fallen & got killed by their surroundings.

[@seline.michell]

how did you make it home?

[@saalank]

@@seline.michell I finally made it back to the path eventually then from there I knew where I was going as long as I stayed on it. I had a map but had gone on some closed trails. Due to landslides large parts of the trail had been completely wiped away and I had to make my own way while traversing up and down the cliffside. Learned my lesson. They don't close off trails and roads for nothing!

[@keve2924]

That was my first thought

[@shannonly23]

MrBallen is like the cool cousin that always has crazy shit to talk about at the family get-togethers. So wholesome and respectful but also jaw dropping.

[@jojeanajaxon]

Haaa! Quite true...I've been thinking this guy would be a great person to run into at a bar or something like that. I could just imagine him with some drunk ppl gathered around, captivated as hell, as he's telling a story. Lol

[@speakwright1]

I am confident the girls were savagely murdered by some of the natives or terrorists. Tragic!

[@kathykaura7219]

naıl on the head

[@kevindean1327]

He has a team that organizes these stories. How much he can spew without having a script is arguable.

[@kevindean1327]

@@speakwright1 It could have been someone in the hostile they were staying at that saw they had something they could steal. You can't rule anything out in an investigation. If I were the lead detective the first thing I would do is get a list of all the people staying at the hostile the day they went missing.

[@joanneconall]

Thank you so much for telling such awesome stories. You are a GREAT story teller!! I am an Indigenous Ojibwa from Canada, and in my culture as well as many other cultures, being a storyteller is one of the highest roles to the people!! Thank you!

[@mariad4183]

Tragic You have a most natural way of communicating...clear and compassionate. Keep up the good work, we all love you

[@FloridaSalon]

The girls were probably taking pictures into the dark with the flash on so they could zoom in and try to see who was following them. The deleted picture may have shown the Killer. The other bone fragments make me think those girls weren't the first tourist that didn't make it home.

[@jugghead-1975]

Definitely using the camera flash as a light source i think more than pics ... just looked like they weren't trying to really capture an image as much as see in the dark with no flashlight and prob wanting to save phone btry

[@jugghead-1975]

But they could've been hearing 👂 no telling what as well so could've been kinda doing both ? But definitely to much shit happening with em to simply say they fell off a cliff?? Wth ... that makes me think whatever official said that is involved as well! Crazy ass story

[@FloridaSalon]

I have taken a picture of an injury so I could see how bad it was. That's why she took a picture of her head. They wouldn't have been wasting batteries flashing pictures into the dark of random plants. Either they were hearing noises or already had a close call with the Killer. I have no doubt they were taking pictures into the dark trying to get a read on what or where the danger was. It's absolutely heartbreaking. Crimes against tourists are swept under the rug all over the world. Hopefully this video will warn other would-be tourist..

[@thebizend]

@@FloridaSalon I think your analysis was pretty spot on. Especially when you mentioned the taking a picture in order to better inspect a wound. Absolutely chills me to the bone.

[@hritvijsaxena291]

Also, the killer was a sociopath who would showcase his/her work and be like you have evidence but still can't catch me

[@SamJ_1980]

This was less than a year ago, and this dude is already pushing 3M subscribers. That's some major league story telling skills right there. I stumbled upon this channel on KZbin about a week ago, and I'm already close to being done this entire library. One of the best youtubers right here, thanks for keeping me entertained!

[@liamgannon9474]

he also started on tiktok, and moved to youtube

[@csims6788]

I sooo agree with you! He has a lifetime income if he continues with Utube. Very clearly articulated (VOCABULARY and Sound perfect) and videos are so professionally presented.I could watch his videos for hours and never get bored.

[@wrosebrock]

And has probably prevented future cave diving deaths

[@eurikahinton4840]

I agree Mr.Ballen is great. He's also home grown all American. Yeah!

[@danielboone5505]

Could have something to do with him displaying his masonic ties on his page. But hey I'm a nutter

[@normann.6460]

You’ve come a long way Mr. Ballen. Thank you for the stories. And thank you for your Service.

[@kyleybierlink7537]

Mr. Ballen has gotten so far in his KZbin career. Now he has around 8.18 MILLION subscribers. Way to go!

[@Micke12312]

And who fucking cares. 2 girls probably murdered

[@dpain951]

Scattered bleached bones with no scratches, random pics and one permanent deleted pic. yea these girls were murdered.

[@lauren9373]

One of them had their foot severed, the foot was going in the shoe

[@edgargutierrez5027]

Yup

[@MrSnicker14]

@@lauren9373 That's not uncommon. The shoe protects the foot from decomposing the way the rest of the body does.

[@farmsalot1233]

@@MrSnicker14 ya but it still wouldn't of been a clean cut. Also the entire backpack situation stinks

[@andrewsilbaugh5873]

I’m thinking serial killer drop, serial killers tend to dispose of bodies in a single area. The bags being left along side of the road, that is the person or persons mocking the police or searchers. Bleached shattered bones, hmm, but not all of the bones...animals would have left chew marks, it takes years to naturally bleach bones even with UV lights. Chemicals would have left markers in the bone matter. Serial killer is my best guess.

[@McDooogle]

Mr. Ballen “I’m pretty bad at youtube” Everybody “This is the best KZbin channel”

[@BravoCastNetwork]

Yup!

[@InterIdoru]

I could alternate between MrBallen and That Chapter all day and night!

[@caitlynguthrie5641]

@@InterIdoru Same. That Chapter is based. And I’m new to MrBallen but I’m as equally addicted.

[@tonym2513]

It’s pretty good. Idk if it’s better than Sammy the Bull’s channel tho.

[@Mezuzah87]

*looks at terrible background green screened in* No honest person is saying this is the best. Good content is good content. No need to exaggerate 🙄

[@factsmachine5708]

brother the progression you’ve made since this is remarkable.

[@marcussmith2149]

Looking at his old videos compared to his new ones it’s crazy how much he’s improved not only in production but in his story telling ability

[@AnthonyRivera1999]

Those poor girls were murdered, hands down. I’m from Colombia and it’s extremely dangerous for tourists to be wondering on their own, especially folks from developed countries such as America, The Netherlands etc. going on their own was such a poor decision man..May those two girls rest peacefully

[@matthewtaylor6533]

wAndering wondering means thinking about something

[@g.a2951]

Those girls were from the Netherlands, they were just really naive, thinking the rest of the world is safe to be doing this , 2 girls alone in the woods

[@veng3r663]

@@g.a2951 Yes WAY too many 4 & 2-legged predators still prowl about to this day...

[@g.a2951]

@salty fisken because it was a serial killer who did this. He probably folded their clothes really nice and tight and put the bag in some place easy to find so they could stop looking for the girls, managing to be easy to find the corpses along with the other ones. That place was probably his dumping ground. This serial killer is now killing in some other place

[@AnthonyRivera1999]

@@matthewtaylor6533 English isn’t my first language Homie

[@UpchurchOfficial]

Dude this channel is awesome

[@scoobasteve2792]

@Ryan Upchurch his channel and yours in my opinion have the best content

[@melissalove2463]

Totally AGREE! Doesn’t hurt that he’s SEXY as hell also ! 💕😍💕

[@JessicaC.]

Totes...

[@codydalton4192]

This guy is great!

[@lameandboard]

Yeah niiice

[@user-qr1bo9en8k]

I came across your videos a few weeks ago when i was researching different stories about people disappearing in national forests. I am so perplexed by these types of stories! You have amazing content and i wouldn't change a thing! Its great!!

[@amanitebg]

I was here watching when this video came out, and now seeing the channel just exploded from the 120k subscribers to almost 9m it feels well deserved to me! Wish you all the best mr. Ballen!

[@user-el3qn9lx9s]

This is what unsolved mystery’s should be. Give this man a Netflix special!

[@munah9741]

Agreed, Netflix Netflix Netflix

[@SnakeEyes-un8jh]

Carter Hendrickson then don’t watch

[@doomslayer4381]

@@cartergan337 maybe to a tard

[@bigdrop4155]

Yes

[@bigdrop4155]

@@cartergan337 cause your not smart and don’t care about stuff like this and only care about yourself

[@rosiered3403]

I read a comment once that stuck with me. The most dangerous animal you could come across in the wild is a human.

[@Jl2damax]

I hiked the wonderland trail, alone with my dogs, a few years ago and heard something very similar from a much older hiker. I jokingly asked if I should worry about camping in the woods, several days from my car, alone. He said all I had to worry about out there was man.

[@veng3r663]

Ever met my (EVIL) older sister..? >_

[@ryankasik7911]

I'd say more like a jaguar

[@rosiered3403]

@@ryankasik7911 A jaguar will kill you in seconds. A human will do unspeakable things over a long period of time. I'll take death by jaguar.

[@cyber_hacker]

@@rosiered3403 perhaps it was on of those jaguar driven by a human.(car brand, even though there are many brands that based on numbers cause far more danger for others for example white mercedeses perform very well in average bad driving skils.)

[@badsmurfff]

I know there are so many of us that are so thankful for your hobby of the strange, dark and mysterious. Really enjoying rewatching your videos from the very beginning. Thanks again, John. 😊

[@kanewirts726]

You are an amazing storyteller I watch your videos often and I wanna say thank you from my heart your stories give me something to look forward to every week and they are all great stories! You tell them with great respect and that’s what I like the most please keep them coming!!

[@zakariaott]

When I first heard this story I immediately thought that the girls were using the camera to take pictures to see where they were going at night. The last photo was probably a photo of the attacker.

[@kiki.23.]

wouldn’t the attacker just take the camera with them to destroy it? everything about this seems so strange

[@kianbina5164]

@@kiki.23. very possible the murder planted the items because they wanted more attention, especially in the media. Very common for serial killers and with multiple bodies found where the girls were, its definitely a possibility.

[@deannamuz9086]

@@kianbina5164 oh geez...I heard this story but didn't know there were more bodies.

[@justadragn55]

@@kiki.23. Serial killers ALWAYS think they're smarter that the cops, so sending back the camera and the phones was just his way of taunting them and letting them know, "you'll never catch me. I'm far too clever."

[@realquick2579]

Idk maybe they just got lost, the picture of the back of her head might have been to see where she scratched or fell. Then they lost the backpack and another fellow hiker months later see the pack laying under rock cervas. Things don't always have to be sinister, sometimes things look like they appear

[@Dana-ld4wf]

The few stories I watched with a dog involved, the dog comes back. Time to start putting cameras on the dogs when you decide to go hiking or camping.

[@ava.v5724]

Yep, This is such a great idea especially when you can buy a small world camera for £10 online. Bedside the fact to help of you get lost or surveying, wouldn't you want to see your journey from your Dogs prospective?? What he sees off trail? Small animals that may be caught on camera it'd be great. If i was a hiker I'd have a head cam too cos it'd be good to watch after. I bet you'd see more watching the film than you do on your bike?!!

[@ava.v5724]

Wireless NOT World camera

[@smassey6848]

If only dogs could talk!

[@jjohnsengraciesmom]

They make such cameras, and I agree.

[@shaunrogers8811]

Seems like a solid idea depending on the dog in question, although I feel like what ever is behind these kind of events it would not help. I’ve done a lot of research into this kind of phenomenon and the only logical conclusion is that some sort of intelligence is doing this for reasons we do not understand. I’m not implying anything be it aliens or Sasquatch, etc. However logically the only explanation is an intelligent being, doing this for unknown reasons while making sure to cover their tracks to avoid not detection, since we do have some details but to avoid confrontation.

[@bryanwadebarney]

John, you have done an amazing job of honing you story telling skills in a remarkably short period of time! Bravo sir!!

[@MS-fi7vw]

Maybe the pictures were taken in the dark because they needed the flash from the camera to see in the jungle

[@Lee-wg7en]

or they realised they were going in circles and tried to make sure they weren't

[@carapierce4786]

this is what I was thinking

[@GalacticExplorer83]

Wouldn’t that blind them? 🤦‍♂️ just test it yourself pitch black anywhere. You’ll see that it’s blinding because your eyes need to adjust by doing that your not helping yourself see.

[@kanamichelle7404]

Judging by the fact that there were other remains in the area they were found, that screams serial killer.

[@TigerLily61811]

Or criminal enterprise... drugs or cartel or something. May also explain why the locals stay silent.

[@harrykadaras9459]

@@TigerLily61811 drug cartels dont usually stalk and kill tourists for no reason. Nor would they waste time futzing with the camera, taking pics and wiping one of them. An intelligent Serial Killer makes more sense, as its 100% clear he liked a particular dumping ground (which they by rights the police should set up hidden trail cams there). It sounds like he played with their personal belongings, as most of them do, and then deposited them in the open, to ensure all would be found - (which I cant fathom how some idiot would reason they died from falling from this scattered evidence debris field). The well-placed backpack, just sitting there saying "please find me" is enough in itself to demonstrate to anyone human involvement and murder. Let's pray that they find this sicko and then do something very bad to him (or them). Its unfortunate when witnesses are too afraid to talk...perhaps the killer(s) is someone in s position of power. The locals know who did it, just like with the Natalie Holloway's case. I just hope in the near future there will be a day or reckoning for the human garbage that rubbed out two beautiful lives...

[@infernusifrit9348]

Correct, thats what i thought. Or a secret cult.

[@matthewdevalle404]

I would suggest an active serial killer with access to the police department computer such that they can delete image 509. Also if the serial killer is a police officer it would explain why no investigation has borne fruit and has been been written off as a simple accident. Who has the authority to close an investiagtion? The police. The killer, I suspect is a local police officer. The back packs were possibly moved from the location of the murders back into his own jursidiction to prevent any other police officers from becoming involved.

[@swymaj02]

My idea

[@virginiajaquez6806]

I’m sixty years old, a young kid at the bank was telling me about this channel I was skeptical but checked it out, turns out I love your story telling style, I would’ve never gotten to know you on TickTock because I rarely look on there! Keep up the good work you’re a fine storyteller, and I am now pretty much binge watching, thanks for all the hard work!!

[@curtisss]

It's nice to hear that young people are still introducing older people to the things they enjoy and are sharing the fun.

[@jewelzzz4455]

Welcome to the family :) that's awesome how you found the channel

[@TorieDawn1]

I only found him a few days ago, I've never used tiktok so I'm so glad he has moved over to KZbin

[@smxygoat]

Why skeptical about so many things?

[@nickholasmoszczik403]

@@smxygoat why are you so against an older lady who has just told us her lovely story about meeting a nice young kid..it's not like she said she's sceptical about EVERYTHING...can't you just write something nice,like 'hey,that's great what a lovely way to be introduced to something new & somthing some of the younger generation watch' cheer up man!..BTW I'm not Nick moszczik I'm a friend of his using his fone,fi mcfadden(guest

[@edwardginn220]

I am so delighted by your authenticity and humanity. Mr Ballen! You are an incredible human being. You do our species honour, Sir!

[@karenhall7446]

Thank you for your service and commitment to our nation!

[@kerrydehorney2949]

No soundtrack Oh yeah! No loud piping organ playing in the background. That's what I 👍. The information is crisp and clear. Thanks

[@steveperreira5850]

Yes, I think he did a great job and he doesn’t have a big head, he’s down to earth, amongst the best I’ve seen.

[@1w598]

And no cheesy, random, unrelated pics from photostock to distract you.

[@boblee5636]

Pull to agree more. I’m loving his content due to this fact, it’s super clear I understand him.

[@alwaysyouramanda]

Great audio is all he needs, man! 😁 this isn’t bad-!

[@aussiepete67]

G'day from Brisbane... I somehow just found your channel... I'm in!...keep up the great work...cheers mate.

[@TheChetna123]

The woman who found the bag needs to be looked into. Someone kidnapped them, stole their phone & camera. Realised they would get more money by giving information rather than selling off the stolen items, then made the backpack appear. If the woman received money for giving this info she is 200% involved.

[@keymaster430]

VERY good theory. The murderer wanted the reward money, so he/she deleted the evidence and had an accomplice (the woman who 'found' the backpack) to try and claim the money. Hopefully she didn't get any, seeing as though the mystery is still unsolved.

[@Brinta3]

The motive was probably rape, not stealing. One of the main suspects is a local guide who has been acting weird with white female tourists for years.

[@chrisyorke6175]

If the girls were murdered, the guide would have an idea who did it. His farm is literally inside the jungle which his workers walk through every day. Had the girls died at the hands of a malefactor, all their belongings would be disposed of. What could a criminal gain by leaving clues and evidence? Agreed, the woman who handed it in should be investigated thoroughly, more so, if she claims a reward.

[@cleetusdotjpg]

@@chrisyorke6175 That’s the thing, killers usually find amusement in teasing police, it’s pretty common. the fact they only left so little evidence in such weird ways really supports the theory. I’m not going into the whole details of it but there’s a lengthy reddit post that talks about it

[@magnuskallas]

I'm usually pessimistic about this stuff, but in this case (and I heard it in the news back in the days too) I actually do believe a man-eating predator might have been involved. If they were kidnapped no way would they have been able to use phone and camera for days. And about the deleted picture - not all cameras save background Meta-data and restoring info (some use the recovered space to overwrite the previous "slot"). As for the failed PIN attemps, what if one girls succumbed and the other didn't know her access code? As for the no-scratches on bones thing... I wouldn't trust their reports. Even more developed countries write off stabbings as suicide, you know...

[@salimahhossain8161]

I love the way you narrate your stories. So glad I found your channel❤

[@jamesrnash1994]

Mr Ballen your story telling skills are exemplary

[@safety_doggo2]

When a Navy SEAL says its hard terrain, then you gotta believe its true!

[@steves1015]

Jungles are notoriously tough to navigate. The dense foliage makes it impossible to see anything in the distance to be able to get bearings on. At night it is dark, incredibly dark. It is also hot and humid and then you have to worry about the residents (the insects and thorny plants being the worst). But they are amazing places. I’ve had a lot of good times camping in the jungle, but I wouldn’t want to go in unprepared.

[@shabbadootv6289]

Lol! Amen.

[@officialarchiemo]

It's all fun and games till the trees start speaking vietnamese

[@CaptainXanax]

I saw a thing on TV with a marine who teaches jungle survival, and he said something to the effect that if the jungle is thick enough you might only cover a couple hundred yards in a day. And that's if you're in good shape with the right gear.

[@GiganFTW]

What about when a Boy Scout says it’s tough terrain?

[@Aaron-ui9tj]

People who grow up in "sheltered" communities just have no frame of reference for how hard the world can be. I wish there was more education in school about this.

[@jessicastern8597]

Just be thankful you had that sheltered life. I, and many other ppl, did not and wish I did. Be careful what you wish for.

[@fvgbe342]

Also. When you have sheltered communities for multiple generations. No education other then hard knocks can teach us.

[@Aaron-ui9tj]

@@jessicastern8597 Don't get me wrong, I'm not ascribing any superiority to growing up in a rough place. Knowledge and understanding of these places is what I'm asking for.

[@njrf2615]

Exactly, i live in the netherlands and most people dont know shit. I mean it depends. I have seen bodys and Parts of them. I am Also latino and i know the situation There. People dont know they Think the world is pretty and shit i can tell you the best places in the world are the most fucked up

[@Carpenters_Canvas]

Aaron For real . Knowledge is power

[@jellicle77]

The odd night-time photos were the girls taking photos for light. So when they heard a noise, they took a photo to see what it was. -The plastic bags, to me would definitely confirm this.

[@hypanthia]

i think they got lost and eventually ended up getting chased by some serial killer. they made it a few days but then had to use the camera flash as light before they either fell to their death or were killed. I think the killer placed the clothes by the river and deleted the photo before placing the backpacks where they could be found.

[@BNM44444]

That’s what I’m thinking

[@kevinthegreat9101]

No serial killer more likely cartels

[@hypanthia]

@@kevinthegreat9101 trueeee didnt think of that

[@wrath_of_thrawn2163]

Maybe it was an alien and his photon laser made that image corrupt and then, to cover up that aliens existed he planted the evidence to make it look like a serial killer who was trying to fake making it look like they got lost.

[@hypanthia]

@@wrath_of_thrawn2163 for sure

[@dismaldohrmousedigressions7484]

My sweet baby girl passed away Friday night at just 20 years old leaving behind a 1 year old little boy and your stories are the only thing that will hold my attention long enough to take my mind off of it, thank you ❤️

[@janedoe-hq9vn]

Sorry you're going through that...

[@dismaldohrmousedigressions7484]

@@janedoe-hq9vn thank you, I appreciate it

[@korn5308]

Im sorry for your loss

[@29itsmemanda33]

Pure love and light to you and your family. I read this comment and felt I needed to share the teachings of abraham hicks. If you just put her name in she has several KZbin channels about her teachings anyway. Hope she helps you as much as she's helping me. Love and light to your broken heart. God bless

[@barrychuckle5565]

😞

[@mariacruizh]

I’m from Panama and let me tell you this, you definitely covered and explained the situation and the story better than the Police here. Love your channel!

[@lanazak773]

Check out the video by Found Footage Short Film - The Abduction (new theory) for a lot more information

[@novinemeth9058]

Mr Ballen. Your content has kept me binging for weeks now. I absolutely love seeing your growth on here, and enjoy watching how it's changed over the years. Please keep up the good work. Thank you.

[@zuwopw6533]

Does anyone else like this channel so much they put it on to go to sleep? No? Just me ?...... okay

[@jadapalmer4356]

No

[@TLMCQ]

Yup, I do! 👍🏻😊

[@kayosiris7470]

I just found this channel the other day. Fell asleep with it on last night 😄

[@nickykeightley9355]

Yes!

[@josephsaint4098]

I do too.

[@daniellesmith3194]

I feel like they were attacked in the dark and snapping pictures to try and use the flash to see what was going on. Maybe the red head got hit in the head with something which is why the picture of her head bleeding was in the camera roll maybe? Because if I get hit I’m gonna say “am I bleeding?” Also...I feel like this is a tourist trap for cannibalism. Which would be why there was multiple bodies scattered and such. Just a wild theory though.-also the deleted picture (in theory) was them randomly snapping to try and see what was going on around them in the dark and they captured their murderer.

[@justaweirdtree9645]

I think it is some Sociopath's puzzle, trying to see if he could get caught or not.

[@b-rare]

The flash was used to navigate in the dark for sure

[@battygirlrachel]

I thought that too

[@MrThaiko]

The deleted picture, which can only, to our knowlegde, be deleted via a software on a computer, must have been taken of the murder - and then taken to the murders computer from which he permanently deleted the picture, and placed the camera in the backpack 5 months later and placed it nicely to be found. But in order for a human cannibal to kill 2 people at night, pitch dark, he can't see himself without light, since these girls could not. Therefore he either had night goggles or it was not a human. Aliens, which have animal eyes, can see well in the dark without light, could probably permanently delete a photo on a camera by the touch of a button, who knows lol. That camera flash would only light up probably 2-3 meters at max, for a 0,25 second time - but if an animal or an alien was flashed, its eyes would light up like daylight so to speak in reflection, which human eyes can't. So maybe thats why it got deleted. But who eats their body, without leaving a scratch to a bone? And just randomly lays bones around the area, instead of neatly place them in a pile or bury them - since their clothes along the road was neatly folded, their backpack was nice and just sat there dirtfree, as in taken good care of. An aligator can swallow people whole, or rip limbs off without scratching a bone, and then clean the bones with its very strong stomach acid, since the bones was so nice and almost bleached. An animal dont give a damn about where to drop the limbs or bones after a meal. But an aligator cant try to log into a cellphone 78 times. An aligator can't fold clothes. A human killer dont fold clothes in the jungle, or place their belongings in the same backpack and puts it there, exposing himself for dna evidences etc. If it was a human, they would have placed the folded clothes in the same backpack aswell. Since we dont know the time staps of the 90 photos, we dont know if they were within 1 minute, or taken over 15mins. If they were taken over 1 minute, the pic of the back of the ginger head would have been not at focus of her head, but taken as a rapid need for light in that direction, and her head just was in the way of whatever was being needed light for. And the last picture she may have moved her head away, and exposing the killer in front of them in the last picture, which somehow got deleted. She could fairly easy have slipped or tripped and knocked her head at a rock exposing some blood during the panic runs in the pitchblack escape. But by my logic the pics's timestamp would been the last minutes of their life before eaten by aliens lol. A human would easily know that "breaking" a pin code to access someone elses phone is pretty impossible. They would also then try to recharge the other girls phone, and try on that one aswell, but they didnt. So a computer would likely not been here. A human killer isnt gonna do this shit either, so much hassle and time waste. The alien may have forced the camera to fk up at the last picture, forcing the photo to automatically be erased when taken, by magnetic energy. Lots of stories of aliens eating humans. They probably have the tech to dismantle any limb or bones scratch free. If u do some research of these things living at earea fifty 1, then testimonies of human army n nasa ppl laying for their death, telling whats down there and what they interract with, 7 stories below earth. Some of them do live in the forrest around the world, and will sometimes look like a human, but also like an alligator.

[@Noah-jk8go]

@@MrThaiko I stopped reading at aliens

[@cuttxxn_classix4934]

This is my favorite scary story channels so far just your personality. I feel like your just as excited and creeped out as me when listening

[@melissacomery1794]

Found you via Bailey and watched your newer videos first. Great to see how much you mastered the KZbin format and really wish I'd discovered you during lockdown lol not enough time in the day now to catch up on all your content!

[@bigt1258]

i’m scared for the pictures, i feel like if a story relates to the woods it has the scariest pictures

[@johnjacob442]

Watch missing 411 then hehe

[@notahb.7942]

For me it's when the pictures you see is in a bedroom and your in your room on your be with the lights off and the closet kind of open and you don't want get off your bed cause you think someone's going to grab your ankle and drag you under the bed never to be seen again... well that's just for me though

[@Caseoh_Music]

cool u play fortnite

[@aholycrusader2681]

Jaxui haha Legend

[@inkrediblen.e.s.5303]

So sad 🙏🏼

[@MrTiberus1701]

Naive young women with good hearts probably ran into someone with a not so good heart.

[@OneBlueFroggy]

Ya think ?

[@donaldthomas2345]

How can someone just permanently delete the photo and still not be able to get into the phone?

[@ilovescaramouche4734]

@@donaldthomas2345 if the photo was deleted it was probably mishandled by authorities, whether intentionally or not. Also who’s to say that if they ran into foul play, it was this third party trying to access their phone. Perhaps one of the girls was still alive for a few days/week after they ran into some not so good intentioned individuals.

[@jadapalmer4356]

@@ilovescaramouche4734 - So...... basically you are saying, they ran into foul play.

[@blakefontanini1579]

@@jadapalmer4356 i had to re-read what she said twice to make sure it wasn't just me >.

[@simondalzell5635]

Love your Channel Mr. Ballen. I'm 58 from England. I don't do Tik Tok !!. You underestimate your KZbin skills. I reckon you do a Fine Job. Thanks and best wishes from across the pond.

[@iloveapples2428]

I’m working back from the most recent videos as I’ve just found Mr.Ballen, and seeing his evolution is crazy!

[@99WingedTigers]

They need to set up some bait.. get 2 female officers dressed as hikers with radios and guns with surveillance team monitoring them and see if this guy comes out to get them.. may be unconventional but its probably the best chance you got of finding who did this..

[@goodnight.9575]

This would be wise ‼️‼️

[@nathanadams78]

There is no way someone would be that stupid. Unfortunately they have gotten away with this one

[@99WingedTigers]

@@nathanadams78 it's all about the bait.. if you set up a scenario similar to the one that that person got away with then if he is hanging around the same area it is likely he will bite. Like I said its unconventional and I'll admit it's a long shot but you might as well try it if all else fail..

[@icantthinkofaname15]

That's actually a great idea! Couldn't you tell the police to do that or something?

[@jilianlutsky7343]

@@nathanadams78 and ain’t it crazy that that man could’ve walked past u in the store?? Nowadays, it’s so so likely for u to atleast came near someone that got away with murder.

[@Justin-lm4wc]

“I’m pretty bad at KZbin” You take that back you wonderful human being

[@dappermusic5856]

Lol ikr

[@Tw1nkieStuffer]

I watched a lot of your newer videos and I can see your improvement! You’re doing a great job man.

[@mishawilliams3571]

Mr. Ballen, you're amazing, sir! I love listening to your stories. You have a great voice. I've been listening now for several years.

[@ericshetka3655]

My first thought on this story was someone wanted to give up enough evidence to confirm they were dead to get searchers to stop tromping around the area for them because they were disturbing other activities in the region.

[@socialhostage8534]

Interesting perspective. You can also question why they were not looking for the other people. Which were also found along with the remains of the girls.

[@apples8872]

Makes sense considering the girls parents showed up with Dutch police. There is probably more bodies hidden in there they didn’t want to be found out

[@guneytopal7076]

drug cartels. I mean it is screaming that the cartels did this because the girls saw something they shouldn't have seen. (not a far fetch as any south american cartel would have to move through panama.

[@deloresbates3937]

Wow yes

[@lacavalloelmundo8295]

Yes, i knew this case already. First thought was they were just simply raped and killed by cartels. That is kind of lawless area. 2 beautiful white girl alone there...sad.

[@rabbidninja79]

The random at night photos were them probably trying to use their camera as a flash light.

[@ColonelSandersLite]

Yeah. Seems obvious to me that they where using the camera flash as an improvised flashlight when they thought they really needed it. That doesn't really mean they were or weren't murdered though.

[@scallen3841]

Always pack a flash light even if your going out during the day , you never know when you may need it .

[@rabbidninja79]

@@scallen3841 that's very true but who knows, maybe their flashlights burned out or they lost them?

[@scallen3841]

@@rabbidninja79 Flashlight and spare batteries in my edc , car etc etc .

[@rabbidninja79]

@@scallen3841 they were nowhere near their car and spare batteries wouldn't help if they had lost their flashlights.

[@denislegg6276]

Well, this aged well 3 years later, and you are basically a super star!!! Im so happy for you!! I have to find at least one of your videos to watch every day. i really enjoyed your content. Keep on the good work!!!

[@Micke12312]

Pick your comments, 2 girls probably murdered ., Who cares about subbes

[@sabjs2001]

Coming back to this video is always crazy to me to see where you started and see where you are now 💕 I love this channel so glad I was able to find it

[@Micke12312]

You come back to this not because this terrible case but to see "how far" his channel grown?

[@lorimyers4783]

My dude had no idea he’d have a million followers in a mere 4 months.

[@enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337]

Those millions of people really like being creeped out... Yeah me too.

[@nd612]

Ya know.. we got it goin on

[@emmanema4502]

I'm surprised he hasn't gotten more yet. It seems the spooky community it smol

[@sammigallivants]

I'm sure they were taking those photos because they didn't have flashlights or their flashlights died. They were just taking flash pictures so they could see what was around them. And they were leaving candy wrappers and things as markers, and wanted to know/remember what they looked like. The last photo probably was a photo of the killer.

[@Onlyontuesday11]

If you use the flash as light at night you'll get blinded temporarily. Also it doesn't show that they even made progress while taking the pictures, it's like they just took random pictures in 1 sitting. Also if you using the flash as light I'm pretty sure you would not care how the pic turned out, but all these photos look like they took the time to sit down and focus on something then take the pic, instead of just using the flash and move a couple of feet then doing it again

[@anikachristen3122]

0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[@jaslizeth2113]

Same thought

[@k1ng401]

@@Onlyontuesday11 they took photos as fast as the camera flash would allow. They were all taken in one location. I think they were trying to signal or they were trying to see something in the dark that was scaring them

[@julijakeit]

most likely they were followed by someone and tried to take pictures with the flash to see. Besides, the flashlight doesn't blind you if you keep the phone away. They succeeded in taking the picture of the killer and the fact that the killer had computer nearby to wipe the picture indicates these people were organized - like a drug cartel - and killed the girls among other people that's how the 3 other DNAs were mixed in.

[@nancypalacios9840]

I am rewatching all your videos for the 4th time lol but I just want to say you HAVE improved greatly! Keep up the above and beyond content! Love to hear these vids in all occasions and you help me concentrate on my chores haha

[@AnP865]

Nice to see older Mr Ballen content, it's kind of slower and more relaxed.

[@jordanvine2466]

only way my 20 something daughter would be allowed to vacation in the Panama jungle is with a fully armed navy seal battalion at her side

[@ivyrose779]

Sorry to break it to you, but a 20 year old is an adult and can do as they please.

[@jdillon575]

@@ivyrose779 then she wouldn't have his blessings to do so...lol

[@ro4eva]

@@ivyrose779 -- Sorry to break it to you, but your rebellious attitude may get you into a situation that you'll regret for a long, long time. Be careful out there. Your attractive looks will surely turn heads. This is not man-splaining, it's a reality check that you know, that the gender you're probably sexually-attracted to (unless you're gay) is, on average, able to overpower you. This father realizes this, loves his daughter, and is terrified of having to bury her after watching this video of two daughters who were probably murdered, as he should be. His daughter will always be his precious child to him, no matter the age. That's a responsible parent. There are potentially many monsters out there. And one of them may be watching you. Arm yourself just in case if possible (depending on firearms laws where you reside). And know that, despite them being overprotective, responsible parents tend to think of the safety and well-being of their kids more than anything. And it's not to piss their kids off. If you ever have your own kids, your outlook on this will more-than-likely change drastically -- to the point where you'll wonder why you didn't think this way back in the day. I know it's fun to leave home and be on your own as a young adult. I've been there. I regret not being less reckless about it though. I thank God that I'm alive to talk about it.

[@HaplessOne]

@@ivyrose779 ^ what this guy said. Shit I'm a guy and my mom still constantly worries about me and I'm 25. It's what parents should do if they care.

[@h20deliriousjonathan10]

Ivy Rose 20 is the new 5

[@glenbennett596]

The random pictures of things in the dark could have been the girls using the camera flash to see where they were going

[@evanmurrison6777]

Big brain

[@kylesims8688]

Or it could've been them using the flash to see who or what was out there.

[@Apple.Tetanus]

If they planned to move at night why not bring a flashlight?

[@finaljustice3848]

or it could of been the third party who was using their camera after they were murdered.

[@JunkieMilkman]

I LIVE TO SERVE MAXIMLIIANMUS I don’t think they planned on being out that late tbh

[@m4gs.]

For the picture to be actually permanently deleted, there had to be a clean evidence of what happenened, like a picture of a third party's face, or a picture of a key place or just a picture of the victims being held captive or something. I can't think it was something else. About the pictures in the dark, they could be using the flashes to be able to see their sorroundings in the dark, since they probably didn't have a fire going on. Whatever it was they went through, it must've been extremely traumatic. May they rest in piece.

[@EliteDLM]

Watching this video for the first time right now and seeing how far you've come on KZbin is awesome! Congrats, man

[@ellawithey5813]

it’s weird him not doing his intro and like button joke

[@KittenLord4TWENTY]

I think this is an older video, from before those times...

[@mattmroz2182]

@@KittenLord4TWENTY It is, but it's still weird

[@maria53287]

It is weird

[@Eternalbliss702]

right?!

[@aislingtheavey3860]

Yeah

[@brysonfields2284]

Im noticing a trend among Seal team members, they all have phenomenal communication skills. This can not be a coincidence! Great video as always, thank you sir!

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

Goggins has got the best communication skills. WHO'S GOING TO CARRY THE BOATS?

[@crossroads8370]

You can't be a Seal team member and not have good communication skills.

[@BoKnowsBrains]

The more you go up in rank, you learn how to give a class. You learn real quick how to communicate ideas to like 40+ other "adults" in your early 20s. You learn how to get ideas across and the ability to try to explain the thoughts and concepts in your head. The higher you go as an NCO, you get classes on giving classes. I was a total passive and quiet introvert in my teens and the Marines gave me the communication skills that I use to this day to explain and convey concepts that I would have struggled with had I not had training. I had to eventually fight and struggle to remove "Fucken" as a verbal tick that was used in place of "like" or "uh", however. Other than that... yeah military sometime talk gud.

[@johnmac1114]

Ave noticed this as well,like Royal marines n military/armies all over the world a lot is installed in there training to communicate under stressful situations.Mr B is a credit to his unit a would imagine?,a very good story teller with well chosen directions in his depth of story and true crime stories.

[@alyshamay7499]

Watching your old videos now since I’ve binged all the newer stuff.. I mean this as the highest praise- you’ve come such a long way in your story telling and your confidence in being in front told the camera!!! You are the best. Thank you for continuing on with your videos ❤🎉you’re one of the best storytellers on here now.

[@kates4455]

Me 2 😊

[@frankjones3671]

Perhaps as possible s these girls we're set up for there's fate by whomever s gave them this dogs toos misleads thems in gungles thinking's it would've brought back s safely s ! As owners ors persons knows this dogs as it s done it before s run homes leavings these girls lost ! Chased boiled as bones are bleached outs !! It was fouls plays as murders someone who done this knows ECT.

[@IntoTheLight1]

Wow how well things went for you on KZbin! You deserve it your stories rock! I'm trying to figure it out myself 😂 but I just found you and I'm hooked! Thanks for sharing stories with us!

[@michaelrudden8215]

"You know I'm not too good at KZbin" Explain how everyone who finds your channel ends up loving it??

[@theblackcatvieweraccount5402]

Because we're all a mixture of curiosity, sadism, and insanity....

[@cristina-no8pl]

I like listening to scary stuff but I hate remembering it at night because I get paranoid but this channel is really good at telling story's

[@shahfarrdeenislam6896]

@@cristina-no8pl yup that’s the same with me

[@memememe8569]

Lmao, one of my friends recommended me this guy's KZbin account and after one video I can't stop watching

[@memememe8569]

@@cristina-no8pl agree

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

Who else is stuck in the never ending loop of Mr Ballen? 👀

[@kelleydays3907]

🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🥰🥰🥰

[@sonjalockhorst2322]

Me keep clicking next video and then deside it will be the last I watch and before I know it I've clicked on the next haha

[@carolewilson1311]

fellow wilson on me way round again;0

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

@@carolewilson1311 😂😂😂

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

@@carolewilson1311 lovely of you to check in again!

[@alienpromax3511]

I know it’s been 2 years but MrBallen you’re absolutely perfect for KZbin, we love your contents, you’re a beast love y’a my man❤😊

[@zachkurczewski5415]

This is so awesome. Its 4:30am and ive randomly decided to watch your old videos. And to see you talking about how youre new to youtube and how youre starting to research unsolved mysteries is so weird because i started watching your videos not too long ago and instantly became hooked. You are an absolute master storyteller. Like I stop gaming just to watch your videos 💯 hope they never stop coming

[@coltonpeare1917]

So in one year you went from 136k to 3 million followers. Good content goes a long way. Cant stop watching this channel.

[@nikolozka1]

he had over 4 million followers on tiktok, they probably moved over here with him

[@coltonpeare1917]

@@nikolozka1 i can see why they would have followed him on both you tube and tok tik. The guy is entertaining.

[@stayblazinyt3455]

Unrelated to this kinda content but go check out this dude called Field Days, think you'll binge watch his content too lol

[@chickensdontsurf]

You may never even see this comment, but I found your youtubes the past few months, and your stories are amazing, you have a gift. This older one came up in my recommendations, and it is still enjoyable - but you have definitely improved and I'm so happy to see you doing so well on here. I medically retired from the military, as well, and it can be hard to find your way once you're out. Kudos to you, my friend!

[@MrBallen]

thank you very much!!

[@chickensdontsurf]

@@MrBallen Absolutely, looking forward to more! Happy new year :)

[@motownmassacre143]

rewatched this video just now.... as MrBallen has 7.38 MILLION yt subscribers!!! Bruh, a Congratulations on your channels success is well deserved!!!!!!! I've been watching since around the upload date of this video> Thank you for your time, energy, effort and of course your time in the military. Much love to you and yours, from North Florida

[@lorriewallace6621]

I just love your style of story telling. To the point and no annoying voices or "stuff" 😊

[@dmitricarabetchi4269]

I don't claim to be the expert but here I my theories about the things mentioned: - Night photos: girls used camera flash to either a) light up the area to see where they are going b) scare away nocturnal animals - Photo of the back of the head: Perhaps the girl who got injured asked her friend to take a picture to see for herself how bad the wound is - Multiple attempts to unlock the phone: Maybe one girl died earlier and the surviving one was trying to unblock her phone not knowing the password - Photos of red cloth and candy wrappers: marking down places along the way to see if they are going in circles and taking a photo to remember.

[@Tyler-vy4fg]

Yeah, those are the most normal parts though. The permenently deleted photo and other human remains (with no evidence of an animal attack) are really key here.

[@fgvevdbcbvng]

Good theory

[@dmitricarabetchi4269]

​@@Tyler-vy4fg Regarding the permanently deleted photo - this is what doesn't add up for me the most and actually signals against the foul play. Why would you go to such lengths as to use laptop (killer happened to be carrying it in the jungles?) to remove 1 photo if you could just throw away/take with you an entire camera and no one would know? This deleted photo reminds me of a student joke who wrote number "1", "3" and "4" on three pigs and the entire campus were looking for the pig number "2". It could be a camera glitch skipping 1 number that's why there's not even a trace of that photo in memory. Although there was no animal attack their remains were more likely been scattered by scavengers (the "graveyard" of bones sounds like a lair of such an animal) They didn't find any big bones, so the leg they found was probably carried away either by animal or a river flow. However it could also be a big cover up story by that small town authorities, that didn't want to lose their tourism profit. Just like with the Elisa Lam story, where the absence of important video footage was highly suspicious.

[@Brisk1219]

Maybe it could have been an anaconda that finally found their bodies and ate them. Anacondas Squeeze their pray so no scratches on the bones. And the other bodies were other people who got lost in the jungle. The last photo I have no clue, maybe just a glitch or something.

[@aislingtheavey3860]

Amazing :O

[@darthrevan2410]

Dude I love that fact no scary noise wack music messing up the investigation.

[@Nohcal]

Me too.

[@rektalready5237]

Boy, you’ve come a looonngggg way. I really enjoy your videos and your this is the first I’ve watched some of your oldest content. Your so comfortable now vs. 3 years ago.

[@Rolly_Cal]

3 years later (2024) Mr.Ballen has come a long way. 💯

[@HH-ye8qt]

Another theory was with the weird photos at the end was the girls using the flash to see whoever/whatever was around them. Such as they heard something and used the cameras flash to try to spot what it was. They must have been terrified!

[@davidsanchez8360]

I thought the same thing. Also, in the missing picture (5003?) they actually did manage to picture whoever was stalking them, that's why whoever was behind this had permanently deleted.

[@shirleywilliams5397]

More likely they heard the noise of a human or animal and assuming a human tried to indicate their position with the flash.

[@houseofadhdandhyperfixatio9432]

@@averagemoth there's a lot of info on Reddit and someone who's been a professional photographer for decades actually use the exact same camera, settings, etc and it does have an effective 10 meter flash range and he's got a lot of info. Althought this particular guy doesn't think they were murdered which I think they were, he's got very good info and insight on this. Also most of those pictures were taken around the same area. Now the picture of the "back" of kremers head if you look really close it's a sideway picture of her not the back. A portrait artist pointed this out. You can see an ear nose. As far as the backpack there's a lot of speculation that the people that found it actually went thru it without realising it was the lost girls . When they found out it was there's the put it back there with everything out "neatly" . Either way they clearly were murdered. One of the girls family blame Panama police for bit doing a proper job and they think they were murdered where the other girls family believe they just got lost and fell and that the police did a good job. There's so many things that could of happened. Apparently there's also a German guy who crossed them on the path and saw them get in a car. There also a French man who said he hears loud screaming the day they disappeared . I think the Panama police didn't do a good job on purpose we know a lot of crimes and corruption happens over there

[@gdawg4ever119]

There must be something the locals know that you don’t .... a reason the money didn’t get people to talk 🤔 .... fear.

[@rockreader4298]

Dawg, A very plausible thought. I had similar thoughts.

[@jashardwallington]

Of course there is

[@tex-mex1996]

I think people didn't talk because there was probably a crime lord near that area.

[@j_toledo419]

@@tex-mex1996 guaranteed region controllers or whatever they call them, just sounds a little on the "not necessarily human" side... 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@gdawg4ever119]

@@tex-mex1996 fear 👍🏻

[@timjohnson3860]

I like when I can watch you tell the story. All new ones I've seen are just a picture or screen saver. I like your facial reactions and hand movements, they really helped me actually follow the story and the severity of certain things. Pls bring back Mr. Ballen actually in the story visually!! MR. BALLEN FOR PRESIDENT 2024!!!¡!

[@winetrucker3949]

Love your stories,the way you explain in detail is why i tune into you.

[@DeliaAndDanielle]

Heres my theory: What if they stumbled upon the murder or dumping of the other three bodies and then had to be killed bc they were witnesses? That deleted picture might have been an accidental shot of the crime while they were trying to use flash as a torch, which is why it was deleted!!

[@deimos7784]

Thats a pretty solid theory!

[@epicwhat001]

not ruling out murder but everything supporting murder is circumstantial. the most probable was they had an accident.

[@thelidkaroi5606]

@@epicwhat001 I thought too until you add in the deleted photo

[@anomalysharkjira1269]

Or poachers

[@rockreader4298]

Epic, Please think! Parts of five bodies were found all mixed up together, with no teeth or claw marks on the bones and one of the girl's bones were (bleached). This was not an accident! It was extremely purposeful! As John said, photos cannot be completely eliminated, without on-line access.