These teens have a TERRIFYING secret (*MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY*)

[@ellen5245]

How can they be eligible for parole so soon? This was a brutal, premeditated murder. They should never be allowed out, ever. Sentences for cases like this are too lenient.

[@Vertyskirty]

Woman/girls get shorter sentences for crimes like these, although such violence is rare from woman/girls when it does happen the courts tend to have mercy upon them. They are also much more lenient towards minors.

[@rogerd4559]

I pray that the judge in this case is hit by a bus

[@SS-du7tr]

Don't forget pretty & white. Ticked all 4 boxes for the judge, surprised they didn't just get probation

[@AlanWatts33]

Just kill them, don’t waste money on their lives

[@malhar__8932]

It's punishment for one murder. So there's a chance that they might not do it again, maybe they'll realise their mistakes after being in prison for a couple of year. That's their thinking. Plus they were minors when they did it. So 30 years to life seems pretty decent.

[@Cjohnson87]

I remember this. Her father wept in court so bad during the sentencing. Losing your child is horrible, and losing it to this act of violence is even worse.

[@Petra44YT]

The other two sets of parents must be feeling rotten, too. They had a normal child, or so they thought, and now they have a child who is a murderer.

[@waynej2608]

The parents' pain must be beyond description. My heart goes out to them.

[@hrd5568]

And the people who killed them are people that she and her parents trusted, can't even imagine that pain

[@Fuego760]

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[@basedsalty6970]

The fact that both of them are eligible for parole so early is insane

[@ashcaston2490]

The fact that they had a kill kit ready in the trunk should've been enough to ensure 0 eligibility for parole. They knew exactly what they were doing.

[@tresfingeros]

Yep that makes it pre - meditated

[@carldrogo9492]

Nothing short of Capital Punishment was fitting.

[@jameseast294]

Still, young and dumb people. People deserve a second chance. All you people who want these ridiculously long sentences are hypocrites. This should be 7 years in prison, no longer. And longer is pure wicked.

[@voltron979]

@@jameseast294 how about if it would have been your mother..??? That’s of course if you even love her, let alone have one. Can’t wait for what people are going to reply to your analogy… 😶😶😏

[@ashcaston2490]

@@jameseast294 Young and dumb? Of course we all were at one point. But there's a big difference between sneaking out of the house to go drink/smoke with your friends, and murdering someone who considered you a best friend with a kill kit ready to go in your trunk. Call me whatever insult you'd like, but to me, some crimes outweigh that perceived notion of young innocence/ignorance.

[@Cadet26]

That’s sad, I can’t imagine the terror and betrayal Skylar was going through. It’s heartbreaking that her last word was “why?”

[@moonspun4evr]

And those demons probably only admitted that to hurt the family even more.

[@selinakurz8754]

That is actually the only thing anyone can ask in this Situation

[@Sr.DeathKnight]

This has been too hard for me to watch. I'll just now reconstruct myself... 😓

[@joshapple6905]

Lesbian sex. That's why.

[@Thenogomogo-zo3un]

"Why?" Exactly what I thought. I cant watch this all the way through. Poor Skylar ❤❤😢

[@PerkJai]

Sad fact is, she trusted them. They were like her sisters, and they did this? I can't imagine how she must've felt being stabbed continuously by her OWN friends. Being stabbed is very painful but knowing the people who are stabbing you, are your friends? That's worse than death. Those girls destroyed so many lives; Skyler's family and their own family. For which reason? They didn't like her. Rest in peace.

[@jannyhawkins7135]

Indeed, RIP.

[@dvonnlynch1607]

@@realnxmeless5489 literally uses the words “I can’t imagine”… but sure just go ahead and complain about nothing

[@SMaamri78]

@@dvonnlynch1607 Idiots usually complain about nothing .... They can't help themselves.

[@thisnamewerx0350]

@@realnxmeless5489 yeah, you should probably keep your thoughts to yourself if they're all like your comment.

[@izakat3478]

@@realnxmeless5489 lol neither do you so stop talking.

[@timboslice8559]

Is anybody gonna mention how she tweeted “we really did go on three” like she was proud of it or something! That’s the thing that tells me she should never see the light of day again! RIP Skyler

[@rogerd4559]

the judge needs to be drawn and quartered for his heinous decision

[@tresfingeros]

@@rozannaeastland1247 Agree 👍

[@tresfingeros]

@@rogerd4559 Agree 👍

[@tresfingeros]

Agree 👍

[@carldrogo9492]

@Spicy_pickle_forlife they attacked Skyler on three.

[@andriab8517]

I love that you added the little story about baby Skylar filling the tea cups with toilet water. I know it doesn't really pertain much to the actual story, but I loved it. It was a sweet lovely memory a dad shared with those who'd listen

[@MutarFuqueer]

That what makes him such a great story teller. It adds a level of humanity to the story. That story makes her a person, not just a victim.

[@MrFoxALot]

its fake. That story has been told over and over and over for quite some time now, really doubt that this is the origin of that "joke/skit"

[@rognogog5092]

@@MrFoxALot can you elaborate how it’s fake?

[@darnellpervisknox5239]

I put it in my head dat she got da water from da tub faucet. R.I.P SKYLER!

[@maxlimbu3598]

@Taiga what she was just a small baby at that time why would his father punish her

[@john4elohim]

This incident is a prime example for the saying: *"Better alone than a bad company."*

[@stephen-dev]

I was just thinking, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes". Nothing good happens from sneaking out of your home at night.

[@blackluxury5585]

When I’m alone I am in good company 😊

[@JKyleSmith1310]

Or "With friends like that, you don't need any enemies "

[@Jayt2143]

Story Update, Skylar’s Father spoke at Rachel’s parole hearing, emphatically expressing his hatred and anger, toward her, and still overwhelming sadness for his daughter. I can’t imagine what he is still going through. Her parole read denied. They remain in the same prison together.

[@ChicagoShnozzlers]

Thank fucking god, appreciate the update.

[@blahblahblinx]

justice

[@kesh4171]

@@blahblahblinx Nah Justice would be to let the family stab those 2 murderous demons to death. An eye for an eye is the only way we get back to a healthy society.

[@nehshawhitehouse733]

Good in some cases, hopefully they will do they the same for Sheila's hearing in 2028 and keep her in prison for the crime

[@henrikpersson-s4o]

Good!

[@growwithlove568]

They don’t deserve parole. I hope Skylar’s parents go to EVERY hearing so these monsters can NEVER be free.

[@mnuttyV2]

they even posted on twitter griefing damn

[@janedoe3827]

Agreed

[@luckyshotig]

I hope they rot in jail. Skylar's parents have a great deal of patience, I would have ordered a hit on both of them

[@ironaston9858]

Women privilege, it was a man either life without parole or electric chair.

[@Sir_Loin_Of_Beef]

they deserve to get fried

[@treasuretreereynolds1764]

I hope her parents show up at every single parole board hearing and demand they do not get out. As a mother and grandmother, and former psychiatric R.N., I don’t think I have ever run across such sociopathic girls. The parents deserve justice. May their beautiful daughter rest with the angels.

[@catspjs6229]

I hope so ! I can’t believe these little girls are even eligible. Here in Florida there is no parole.

[@foxyroxstar]

you're slightly a spoiler but along these lines I was thinking, no worse.

[@NeonBigDummy]

I think Rachel should get parole, but after 15 years. That gives her only one shot of getting out and she is guarenteed 15 years, and will probably get 30 years max. Sheila should not be able to get parole

[@cynthiakeller5954]

Buckeye woman I know does exactly that when her son's killer goes up for parole board hearing. She alone has been successful on keeping son's killer behind bars. It's been 18 yrs now.

[@mza2195]

@@cynthiakeller5954 that poor woman. I commend her bravery to go to every parole hearing. It must be so painful to do every time, but if it was my kid I’d do the same.

[@kaleybrowning]

Now Rachel and Sheila get to wear matching outfits every day.

[@Pigletface000]

Watching such content is a disgrace, be above the problems.

[@Pigletface000]

You what.

[@dumbcat]

@@Pigletface000 hmm. i dunno. it's informed me to be more kind to people while simultaneously not letting my guard down. most people are the opposite. they are cold while simultaneously dropping their guard

[@Sr.DeathKnight]

Touché.

[@nicholasgrogan856]

Underrated comment

[@k3wld3wd95]

Skyler's parents need to make sure they attend Sheila & Rachel's parole hearings, and plead for them to be denied release.

[@jennifernelson4247]

the saddest part is every couple years the poor parents will have to continually be put through hell and attend parole hearings and stress of reliving it over and over. Justice system needs to have much stricter limits parole hearings for the victims families. the parents have a life sentence and these vicious, sociopaths get to spend their lives having every comfort the world offers prisoners now. Internet, ability to marry in prison and have conjugal visits, get medical care, get college degrees, great health care, tv and cable. Things many hardworking decent people cannot have. Prison to me means you lose all of life's privileges and comforts. You get 3 bland meals, hour of daylight, work yourself non stop, and can only check out a book occasionally for good behavior. But no these vile people are allowed to write books, profit, terrorize their victims from prison and live a better life than they did on the outside.

[@KnightGlint]

@@jennifernelson4247 Spoken like a citizen who lives in a bubble.

[@ruggie.74]

@@KnightGlint Except she's not wrong... At all. I think you need to educate yourself a bit better on the current state of the judicial system and prison system.

[@dominus6224]

@@jennifernelson4247 You do realize jail is a punishment in which they try to reform, right? So it’s not crazy they’re able to get degrees and whatnot.

[@1mol831]

@@jennifernelson4247 marry in prison to whom? Other prisoners? When did they begin to have such a privilege? Prisoners are supposed to be kept at Atlantic slave trade conditions.

[@rosesofpositivity4492]

What's even more damning about this is the fact that Sheila actually came to "comfort" Skylar's parents. Skylar's mom even let her in Skylar's room where they both cried, not knowing that she is hugging and crying with her daughter's killer. 💔 Those girls are truely sociopaths and they should never ever be released from prison. I've watched their story on 20/20 years ago and it really made me more vigilant of people around me. RIP Skylar. 🕊

[@Janie_Smyth1979]

Oh wow, yeah it definitely makes you think. I remember the Shanda Sharer murder she was my age when it happend. She was killed by another girl and her jealous girlfriend who knew the gf was eying Shanda. Always a disturbing situation, but ever more unbelievable when the murderers were friends with the victim.

[@datheamore6395]

Sheila was a psychopathic narcissist and Rachel was just a manipulated pawn who was still in the love bombing phase and went along with whatever Sheila planned because she was her "bestie." It doesn't excuse Rachel's part in what was done to Skylar, but sociopaths do not have nervous breakdowns that lead to confessions of murder. And considering how little remorse Sheila exhibited during the trial indicates that she reveled in the attention and had no guilt whatsoever. Sociopaths can feel some moments of guilt, but psychopaths aren't capable of true remorse or empathy... they can mimic it very well but they don't experience it the same way most people do. Sociopaths have a better chance of responding well to therapy than psychopaths typically unless the affected party finds it absolutely necessary to change.

[@chrischeetham1652]

You know, it's crazy, but the other story Mr. Ballen did about a similar situation in I believe the 80's if I remember correctly. Anyways, same scenario pretty much, 2 friends plot and carry out murder on a 3rd, and the mastermind behind the plot then goes to comfort the poor girls grieving mom, and even weaseled her way into moving in with her. It just adds a completely different sickening level of evil to the entire thing.

[@MH-jc3uj]

@@chrischeetham1652 Which video is that, please?

[@morganablackwater2017]

Sheila is a sociopath or even psychopath... Other one is not as weight of what they done caused her mental issues. Don't label things names you think mean something bad without actually thinking what you doing. Not all psychopaths and sociopaths kill actually most of them don't. And you don't have be one to be a dangerous killer...

[@mattorey5816]

How did it go undetected that the “mystery vehicle” was her best friends car for so long? Nice investigation.

[@bpj1805]

Because back then apartment building security cameras were potatoes.

[@love_cook]

@@bpj1805 even then , cops could have findout the cars rachel and sheila has , or have been driving.

[@carldrogo9492]

@@bpj1805 2012 ain't "back then"...at all!

[@jrodthegreat1]

@@love_cook yeah just solely on process of elimination even if they didn’t think they did anything.

[@speedybeef]

@@bpj1805 you can literally see the footage. Sure its grainy, but it'd definitely be possible to cross check it with the friends car and they'd see its a likely match

[@kingfarathor6165]

The fact that Sheila made that tweet and was smirking during the trail she should not get parole and spend the rest of her life behind bars.

[@LukaBlight69]

Agreed. Sheila is a monster in human flesh. That sub-human creature should never see an iota of the idea of being released.

[@juliemanarin4127]

Absolutely right

[@HTNPSullivan]

Wow, Sheila is the definition of a psychopath. How awful for Skylar's parents. I cannot even get my head around this story.

[@justcoolin3384]

I’ve heard similar stories SMH. These kids need to watch who they hang around with. Sad.

[@originaleggsample]

I'm no psychopath but I can imagine how fun it can be for me to beat and torture such killer.

[@raizel2601]

@@originaleggsample im with you, making them slowly die so they have enough time to reflect on their action, cuz u know when they stab her she didnt die at all, the fact that she ask "why you doing this to me" dam

[@foam3132]

Anyone remember the slender Man story in 2012?

[@originaleggsample]

@@raizel2601 but the police is there to do the job, so I won't, unless it is personal involving my family member or loved ones.

[@evolutionsfake]

I can't lie, this was the worst the like button has been treated in any video thus far, I can totally relate!

[@jayybabyy35]

Finally. We get it.

[@bowiebolissian1619]

HAHAHAHA same here, brother

[@ankinset]

the salmon in the ac during summer was pretty bad ngl

[@scottricklaroque7428]

Indeed, it's like I can totally feel his pain on this one, it brought tears to my eyes....again.

[@MrBallen]

Big time

[@jakerice468]

I am from morgantown and this case shattered the town. everyone looked for her, national news crews flooded the town, but there was simply no answers for months. as soon as everyone lost hope the brutal reality came out. he did an amazing job telling this sorry, coming from a person just 3 years younger than skylar that lived just blocks away.

[@shuffman8094]

Tragic. I’m so sorry.

[@TheShadowBannedBandit]

Do you know if there's any information about Shelia's home life? She's defiantly a psychopath, and most of that starts at home so..

[@DrLuke49]

@@TheShadowBannedBandit some people like Sheila are also born psychopaths

[@JayFal68]

It's an awful story 😢

[@lauriegialone5757]

I too am from Morgantown and you are so right about how it destroyed our bubble of feeling safe and this beautiful young girls whole world. I still send love and prayers to her parents

[@haydenhunt7698]

Crazy seeing this video pop up on my recommended. Skylar is one of my distant cousins and after my family found out that she went missing, my mom and I created a FB group to spread awareness. It ended up gaining a lot of attention in the years since and unfortunately I was unable to keep up with all the spam as it was a public group. Things really ramped up after major news outlets took up the story. I never met you Skylar, I wish I did. Our family had amazing things to say about you and your father is a stand up man. Rest in peace.

[@TheAdventuresofStrider-xn9dv]

Oh my god. That probably feels so damn horrible to know your cousin was murdered, especially by her own best friends. Rip Skyler. Forever rest peacefully among god and all his angels.

[@ElishamosBelsam-p6y]

Sorry about your cousin death🥹this is so painful , the both friend are crazy they should never get possibility of parole

[@kaylamercer7814]

I feel like I avoided a similar situation once in my life. I had 2 friends I was cool with but they had a friend who never liked me despite my best efforts, and one day they asked me to come over and hang out with them, but this third person who never liked me and was never nice me was being suspiciously nice and trying so hard to convince me to come over, but I denied the offer. A few months later for some reason I can't recall (I'm 25 now I was probably 17 or so then) we got into it on Instagram, she was being rude about my art and through messages she admitted to having mean intentions that day. She said they were all going to basically make fun of me the entire time behind my back/to my face and I still to this day think they were planning something much worse. To this day I don't have many friends and I have no faith or trust in anyone I meet. I can't say for sure they'd murder me but still, if there are and teenagers reading this, don't feel so alone and willing to do anything to fit in with a friend group. The chances of you having any of these friends into adulthood are so so small, and it's okay to be a loner. Get yourself into art, movies, and other forms of healthy expression and know that one day you'll have the love and acceptance all people long for. Life is a journey and all these mean people are just lessons to take at face value. Xoxo Also always love yourself enough to be okay with that bit of loneliness. You are valuable, you are strong, and you will have happiness in your life. 💓

[@brandonbarrows5265]

Not enough likes on this comment

[@geno5299]

Not having many friends is a peaceful privilege.

[@stejer211]

Tl,dr: Don't have friends because they will try to murder you.

[@TNT-km2eg]

Kayla Marcer You confuse comment section with psychiatric couch

[@ashleyzito5414]

we were the good ones. thats why :) youll find true love.

[@millennium0101]

The way he gave the like button a break to ridicule himself is hilarious, we love you man were not mad.

[@bonds927]

Not mad but it did make me worry something was wrong 😂😂

[@earthwaterfall1498]

That was a good one 😆

[@noelletonnissen896]

yeah, this is how he fools you ignorants...

[@margaretlowe5220]

For Real! John has great humor!ooo

[@de4thbringer23]

This was perfect!

[@thetaylorcooper5588]

As soon as you said “Skylar Neese”, my heart dropped. What happened to her was completely and utterly terrifying and wicked. But I would like to thank you for being aware of your tone and vocabulary in this series. you always address things boldly, yet respectfully.

[@MrBallen]

I appreciate that 🙏

[@cryptnick_]

@@MrBallen I'd wholeheartedly like to second what thetaylorcooper said (thank you, Taylor!)... You are always very respectful and I love listening to you telling stories, as painful and horrible they sometimes are. I wish you and all your fans a wonderful and safe Christmas time. Much love from Switzerland. 🙏🏻💗🇨🇭

[@mysticstudios1210]

As soon as I saw "teens" with three girls in the thumbnail, I knew it was Skylar Neese. I've come to expect nothing but respect and compassion for the victims from Mr. Ballen. Hooyah, Mr. Ballen, from a former ET3, nuclear side!

[@saraa0naiila]

You are absolutely right. He did a story about my friends godson's death and at first I was afraid to watch but when I did, he was absolutely respectful and considerate.

[@jannyhawkins7135]

Poor kid. Those girls are absolute monsters. Should’ve been given the death penalty when they reached adulthood.Also, wasn’t Sheila the mastermind?

[@rebeccamd7903]

Her best friend since childhood murdered her and wasn’t remorseful. I can’t even imagine how horrible Sheila really is. Just…🤯

[@alyciavw]

Right?!

[@scruffymakaveli6870]

If Rachel didn't have a nervous breakdown and remained silent, they would've gotten away with murder. Crazy to think a couple of teenagers could carefully plan to kill someone for such a petty reason. Teenagers are scary.

[@s0lastsummer7]

I have to disagree, I believe shelia's narcissism would've eventually led to their being caught. She was absolutely DYING for the attention when the rumor mill was in action -- kids at school were suspecting them because there was an additional rumor that Skylar caught the two of them getting a little frisky with each other. Shelia was not gonna be able to keep the secret forever -- Facebooking "we really did go on three" ?! 🤦🏻‍♀️ she wanted to get caught sooner or later.

[@Tatusiek_1]

@@s0lastsummer7 Maybe Rachel caught onto this and knew they would get caught, so she had a mental breakdown about it maybe even after a not so friendly discussion with Sheila. Either that or just the guilt/remorse really set in on Rachel because she wasn’t a complete psycho like Sheila.

[@v00n2000]

@@s0lastsummer7 what exactly does that mean 'go on three'?

[@uniqueurl]

@@v00n2000 one two three .. and hit with the knife ?

[@ianengelbrecht4764]

@@v00n2000 they counted to 3 and then started stabbing skylar.

[@jasoncoopersmith]

This is the second teenaged-girl-murdered-by-friends case I’ve seen you cover. I’ll be very conscientious of my daughter’s friends when she’s older.

[@doritoreiss8089]

Gotta also make sure your kid isn’t the bully…

[@dashpratt4097]

There were two murders and there are 7.9 billion people the chances are low:)

[@zoegartham312]

I was just thinking the exact same thing. This sounded very familiar to an older video he covered where the 2 "mean" girls started spreading rumors about the 3rd one sleeping around not once but twice and then ultimately killed her. Probably the same story you are thinking of here too. Karen Severson and Laura Doyle is the case, the video was posted about a month ago on his channel.

[@anonymoustruth8025]

@@zoegartham312 Missy..killed by Karen and Laura

[@asphaltspreader]

Correction. It was Dateline NBC not 20/20 and it is still titled "Dateline NBC ✹ SOMETHING WICKED ✹ Lesbian Sex Secret leads to the Murder of 16 Year Old Skylar Neese". As lurid as the title is, the documentary is excellent. Many interviews with Skylar's parents, etc.

[@mar-shagazorpazorp6431]

To all teenagers out there - please remember, high school and the ‘problems’ that come with it *will* pass. I’m still blown by the fact that Rachel is eligible for parole in about 2.5 years (spring 2023), and Shelia as well in 2028… Rest easy, sweet Skylar. You did not deserve any of that.

[@emilieb.7838]

I don’t understand why they are eligible for parole either… the crime was committed by young girls, it shows how truly evil they are. The should stay forever looked up.

[@nm2795]

I agree. That is in no way enough time for taking someone’s life. As a mother myself if somebody done that to my sons, honestly for own safety they would need to be in jail for protection from ME!! I just can’t imagine the pain her parents and True friends felt. May she Rest In Peace

[@mr3817]

Someone needs to hunt these animals down if they ever get let out...

[@kyoakland]

That's some real white privilege shit there I know people that got longer sentences then that for using drugs and getting cought

[@claudelandi510]

"Eligible" only means a Parole board will look into the case...and determine if they are WORTHY of Parole....Charles Manson was up for Parole...many many times...BUT never got Paroled...he died locked up....something tells me Smiley face...will not get Paroled...

[@randycolaianni4937]

For those that may not know and are interested, Rachel's parole was denied and my understanding is that she and Sheila are eligible for parole in 2028. If this information is already available somewhere within all the comments here, I apologize for the redundancy. I hope neither one ever gets out of prison.

[@s.c.7362]

Shelia, not Sheila.

[@randycolaianni4937]

@@s.c.7362 Ooops, sorry for that error. Thank you for the clarification.

[@deliriouswhome1]

Actually this is completely wrong .. The one who is sentence to life will be eligible for parole starting in 2028.. While other will be eligible for parole each year until her release date in 2028.. (You didn't read that wrong unfortunately)

[@camdengraves1442]

@@deliriouswhome1you are wrong in the video it states Rachel got 30 years and if they were arrested in 2013 her release would be in 2043. So no, her release is not in 2028. Please learn to not spread false information so confidently

[@deliriouswhome1]

@@camdengraves1442 it's not false information if you take the time to do some research... Yes her sentence is 30 years but she only has to serve half of that.. so her release date is in 2028. Why you insult me so confidently? 2028-2013=15 years (You can apologize now)

[@whlnmchl]

I’m a step father to an 11 year old girl and I can 100% say if this ever happened to mine, those girls better pray to never get that parole granted cause those prison walls are the safest place for them.

[@slucas6303]

Agreed. Those two should be hunted down when they’re out of jail.

[@A1Miracle]

I'm not a father and can say the same

[@sirius4771]

Agree

[@LolaAnn98]

Yep! Agreed!

[@jonerving3843]

Y'all wouldnt do anything lol keyboard cowboys

[@vozz4826]

I love how MrBallen doesn’t just tell us the stories. He tells us their background, and makes us feel a little connected to these victims

[@LDW12887]

Yea, literally a wikipidea reading bot

[@TRAINAlytics]

@@LDW12887 Far from it. The "tone" of most Wikipedia articles - the way they're written - is noticeably different from the tone of MrBallen's videos.

[@RachaelTownsend74]

This is the slender man story I'm pretty sure

[@ThatGuy206]

@@TRAINAlytics I don’t think he literally meant a Wikipedia reading bot. If he did he’s not too smart lol.

[@user-rt5ho4vu1e]

I can not agree with you more, MrBallen actually takes his trade serious and does the best to make the best and I do want to say any one else that is involved my appreciation goes to you as well!

[@georgiabartholomew6850]

This was horrific. I can’t even imagine “friends” turning on each other like that. Those two girls are pure evil, and should get no parole.

[@killer92173]

It's arguable that MAYBE Rachel should get Parole, but NOT Shiela!! I hope those inmates give her hell!!

[@sabinanatasha]

@@killer92173 Why

[@Aerogrow]

@@sabinanatasha eh; 16 year old; if you believe in rehabilitation, yada yada... Someone this young; I would be taking a closer look at the parents, teachers, etc...; there is a nature vs nurture question on what lead these teens to murder. Born as narcissist psychopaths; or learned sociopathic behavior from abuse. Two girls in same school/grade being born psychopaths? Fairly unlikely and highly suspect, going guess there is more to this story.

[@mach1mach299]

As horrific as this is, I can absolutely imagine this happening. Girl cliques at that age can be fucking brutal.

[@glitteringsunshine4306]

Maybe we should ask them to reveal the cruel, bizarre things that were done to them when they were little girls. That viciousness has to come from somewhere.

[@Landofsmiles999]

Bro, I was not expecting that turn of events. My eyes nearly popped out of my head. That poor girl, that's some crazy shit.

[@GalenJoyce-ff2cp]

I wasn't expecting it ethier. When he said this was for mature audiences, he wasn't kidding.

[@paolasalas1431]

The fact that Sheila was able to pretend to search for Skyler along with Skyler’s parents is what really upsets me. I hope she strays in prison for the rest of her horrible life

[@timothysmith8667]

This is one of the most horrifying stories I've ever heard because those girls look so damn innocent they just look like they all would have been friends and happy why would they do such a thing I wonder what's really going on in their life like what's the backdrop like the backstory like was that one girl a Satanist or something I like to know what she's studied and what her you know like like I'd like to know her background like who her parents were the one that did the killing the one that stabbed her all those times like to know if she was into like like satanistic stuff and maybe that would describe more of why she was like that

[@michaelevans7882]

@@timothysmith8667 its not always the case. Some people just are like that. It can be tied to a psychological issue, could be pre abuse behind closed doors. We may never know.

[@FUBARguy107]

According to other people's comments they are eligible for parole soon. The video also says one girl is eligible in 2023 and the other in 2028

[@nemanjadikic8039]

@@timothysmith8667 like like like like like likelike like… 😂😂😂

[@e.starling141]

Well, i dont know if this is confiremed, but there was someone saying that at a sleepover of the 3, Skylar had woke up to the other 2 girls having sex together. Supposedly Skylar was really upset and confronted them and said she was going to tell people. So people think this is what motivated the girls to murder her. Again, i dont know if its true, but Id believe that Skylar at least told someone, and that person is the one giving this information. And it would at least give a motive to why these 2 monsters murdered her. Or...Sheila is just a psychopath who charmed and manipulated Rachel into helping her kill Skylar because she just felt like it. That girl has no soul.

[@umarari4395]

On behalf of the MrBallen community, you are welcome back John. We all hope you had an amazing break like you deserve.

[@MrBallen]

Thank you!

[@marchoo9849]

@@MrBallen money changed you. you used to make 4 videos. now u make 1. Good job. Mor*n.

[@ryanr4556]

@@marchoo9849 lol did you really censor "moron"?

[@CaptainChuckk]

@@marchoo9849, what’s the point in making money if you can’t enjoy it!?

[@nuggetsaurusrex]

@@marchoo9849 or maybe he just doesn't have the time/energy to make 4 videos a week after he's been doing it so long? I know if it were me I would have stopped long ago, so I'm so grateful for every new video he puts out!

[@mitchlamping530]

I’d say the worst part about this story is that Skylar was a only child and her parents were such great people it just adds to the sadness

[@philipkuriger3420]

Both girls should have been given life without parole

[@nicholasadams9535]

Hey man. I just wanted to say this. I just passed my two years of sobriety and my life is so much different than it was. When I took myself to treatment, I found your videos and in one of your videos you explain that you didn't want to be knows as the person who never made it anywhere. I thought about that a lot and kept it in my head. Two years later I live in a condo on the beach, I have dirtbikes, fast cars and everything I've ever wanted. What you said made me sober up and do the things I loved as a kid again, and keep working to better myself. You made me feel like Nick again. So thank you. I love the stories, and I hope this channel takes you and your family to wherever you want to go. Thank you for your service.

[@ashtrix8413]

Good on you Nick!

[@MILlz0]

I hope Mr. ballet replies to your words. Good on you and congratulations for reaching sobriety!

[@lmarie8611]

Dude, yes!! I don't even know you but I'm proud of you! Fantastic accomplishment and I wish you nothing but the best in the future 🙂🙂

[@positividad3]

UP

[@katehughes4116]

Wow, how amazing of you to share this. It really picked me up to read your story!

[@donnaklein8161]

What Sheila said on her Twitter was terrifying she said in quotes “ why, is my favorite word “ why was Skylar Neese last words as they watch her die

[@nameshai2640]

Do you know her twitter @ ?

[@heatherdillinsky2989]

@@nameshai2640 just type in her name and after her name out Twitter it shows up in google

[@nameshai2640]

@@heatherdillinsky2989 Thank you so much, I found so much shit, there's even a support group for her on twitter 😬

[@cordeliachase601]

She also wrote stuff like “I never argue or fight with my best friend. I don’t get why girls do that.” She also talked about SVU constantly. She was mocking the police looking at her Twitter account. Wish Mr.Ballen talked about their social media, how Rachel broke down and went to the psychiatric hospital before confessing and then wiring herself up to get Shelia to confess (as she made a deal for a shorter sentence). How they had to be home schooled because rumors were going on about them at school and them being the ones who committed the crime, their “lesbian relationship” that was possibly the motive for the murder - that Skylar knew about. I found it it insane that also, Rachel went on a boat on a lake with her family and friends the next day and had pictures taken of her, and acted like everything was okay.

[@cat6926]

@@cordeliachase601 What they show in posts is them trying to act tough. No person can get through a thread of people truly disgusted by them. It's one thing when you're the center of attention as a troll for a few hundred people, but not when it's tens of thousands of people putting you down. Nobody can withstand that forever. Once these crimes have been exposed in the jail they end up going to, they'll be killed by their inmates once they reach adult-jail. I'm sure they're being held in juvy until they're old enough. They aren't big/buff. Once they get out of babyland juvy they'll be dealt with by inmates.

[@KingChiggy]

How deranged do you have to be to look at your friend that you've known for almost your entire life and be like "I dont like this person anymore. Let's kill her instead of just...not being friends". These girls have SERIOUS issues.

[@jaimealvarezmd7245]

Thanks Cap'n obvious

[@josealexi5141]

that's 80% of women under 30. SERIOUS mental/psychological problems.

[@davidbowick7830]

There was literally no reason to say this. What the hell?​@@jaimealvarezmd7245

[@Pandemia616]

He left out the real motivation of the video. The killers were gay and thought Skylar had figured it out and would tell their families.

[@DL-cd7ew]

Welcome to what it is like in the 2023 dating world for a man. There were women who made up allegations just like to "get rid of him" and I faced serious time. Luckily, their story came apart within 15 minutes of court. Moral of the story? In 2023, don't trust any woman if you love your life.

[@nissaforyou]

I think friends are the scariest. My ex-boyfriend got shot in the car by one of his "close friend" when he was in high school. It was so random. This is truly terrifying 😢

[@William-en9nl]

I'm so sorry

[@langstonr2805]

Why

[@nissaforyou]

@@langstonr2805 he wanted a thousand dollars. Something really stupid. They both used to go to TC WILLIAMS High Scholarship. I mean, that was so traumatic

[@nissaforyou]

@@langstonr2805 he wanted to use his ATM to get money. When my boyfriend told him he didn't have any. The guy pulled the gun, and he thought he was kidding. Then he shot his leg.

[@dimensionhacker2271]

Friendship is a relation formed upon the same ideals and principles that 2 or more persons share, that's true because they can understand each other and are comfortable enough to be vulnerable around each other, I had friends in school , one of them who carried me all the way up a hill when i sprained my ankle, another who used bring me extra lunch, we spent countless nights together, we fought with each other but couldn't away from each other. That's friendship any other relation formed upon practical benefits isn't friendship those 3 girls formed a relation over marijuana, an addiction that isn't friendship. don't confuse it with actual Friendship

[@JustinOhio]

The fact that nobody figured out that was Sheila's car in that video is insane. That's such an easy thing to determine and as soon as her mother was told that they "dropped her off around midnight" I immediately suspected that was a lie. It would have been so easy to match Sheila's car to that video, not that it would have made a difference but still.

[@the_Punisher_]

Exactly, the police should’ve been smart enough to realize that it’s Sheila’s car.

[@mariakan1598]

Besides that, why did the police never consider them a suspect/search the car/search the house? At the very least they were the last people who saw her alive (if their story was true)

[@cynthiakeller5954]

I wonder about that too.

[@kellyshaw7271]

Police were totally inept like usual.

[@thebigjimmyd]

Keep in mind this was WV. A state not exactly known for its intelligence. Their idea of progress is fewer deaths in the coal mine.

[@JacuzziiLucy]

i’m from morgantown. growing up, my mom always had a hard time allowing me to hang out with my friends after fights. i never understood the paranoia but now that i’m an adult i completely understand. you did this story and Skylar justice. love you💛

[@kinluke]

Same here. I only understood everything when I grew up.

[@ThenDarknessFalls]

It's just weird how complete sociopaths can just blend in. Sheila trying to assist with the investigation, all the while knowing everything ... And the fact she can be released is why we need less capital punishment bias for female perpetrators. Just evil.

[@JacuzziiLucy]

@@ThenDarknessFalls i agree. she needs to stay in prison for life. i have a feeling she won’t get out and i hope i’m right.

[@rromi7207]

@@JacuzziiLucy yep i hope so

[@JacuzziiLucy]

@@ThenDarknessFalls rachel on the other hand, i could see her getting out. i don’t think she should be free but i think she needs to be in a mental hospital. i definitely think it was Sheila’s idea more than anything and she probably manipulated Rachel into helping. could be wrong, but those are just the vibes i get.

[@randycolaianni4937]

That poor girl, Skylar. You are one of the best story tellers I have ever listened to and kept me on the edge of my seat. I was hoping for a nicer ending but that didn't happen. Thank you for this and my prayers go out to the parents of all three girls in hopes they have or will get through this tragedy. was Rachel paroled last year? I definitely hope not and hope they both rot in jail.

[@Charbob-j9w]

I'm more of a Mr. Nightmare fan

[@glenwaldrop8166]

This isn't "mature audiences only", this is what every kid old enough to sneak out needs to hear.

[@alexandraaa1399]

I agree! I only sneaked once with a childhood friend of mine to go to a concert. I couldn't enjoy it because I was thinking the whole time "what if something happens to me and my parents don't know where I am". My friend was used to it though. I never did it again, they were very strict but I'm thankful for that now.

[@corygoskins]

@@alexandraaa1399 whenever my friends snuck out with me they would always be afraid of their parents waking up and finding out they weren’t there… not what would happen if something were to happen to them and there parents didn’t know where they were 😂more scared of what their parents would do lol

[@joshuasimber8588]

Tbf it could happen minus the sneaking out too though.

[@alkebulanawah4242]

You are very right

[@alexandraaa1399]

@@corygoskins well I dunno I've always been paranoid about everything wrong that could happen. Or should I say anxious? I guess that was just my problem. 😅 And let me tell you, sometimes being afraid of what your parents would say can save your ass big time! They only want their kids to be safe after all

[@BatsAkimbo]

I'm just glad you're still breathing. The 3 weeks went from "he deserves a break" to "I hope he's doing ok, this kind of subject matter can really eat you if you're not careful." Welcome back!

[@Amanda-bt1ur]

FOREAL! HOW selfish OF HIM. THEN HE POST THIS SHIT STORY!

[@BatsAkimbo]

@@Amanda-bt1ur i hope you're sarcastic. I'm assuming you are.

[@mellvee]

@@Amanda-bt1ur You're being facetious...right? You aren't serious, are you?

[@mellvee]

@@BatsAkimbo I don't think she IS kidding. She's left a few other crappy comments on his vids. I don't know how you could take exception with Mr. Ballen when he provides such fantastic content for us FOR FREE, but I guess you can't please everyone.

[@BatsAkimbo]

@@mellvee oh now I'm horrified. He's awesome and covers very heavy topics in a way that's easier for the viewer, he deserves a break.

[@SimplySamantha333]

I very clearly remember this case. The 2 girls that killed her had a "secret" sexual relationship with one another and Skylar knew all about it. They didnt want Skylar around because the 2 girls were tremendously jealous of one another and always thinking that the each other liked Skylar too much and spent too much time with her. Also both were jealous about Skylar being around either of the 2 girls. They also didn't want Skylar to tell on them or talk about it to anyone else, so Skylar was an issue for them, an obstacle in their way and an obstacle in their relationship basically. So they decided on all of it and planned to kill her because of it. Check the details out. This was a tremendously heinous and devastating tragedy. 1st degree murder is what it truly was because they planned it ALL out, they lured her out, begged her to come that night with them and then acted on their plans to rob her of her innocent and beautiful life. ❤ RIP Skylar, you're an absolutely beautiful soul ❤ You deserved better in this life. TY so very much Mr.BALLEN, for sharing Skylar's story here and keeping her memory alive. *Edited/added* only the info below for clarification here: Skylar allegedly wrote in her diary that during a sleepover in her house she walked in on Sheila and Rachel having sex together. Skylar also wrote several different tweets to the effect of how, she would expose all of the s*it she knew if she could get away with it (because of how they were treating her so badly, but she still didn't tell exactly what it was on Twitter or who it was about, but the 2 girls obviously knew exactly what she meant) *Theres even a book written about this entire case out called "pretty little killers"* There was even a 20/20 dateline T.V episode on this case. You can check everything out about this all over, online too.

[@davidbanner7096]

Ya know what, I got a "sexual secret" sort of vibe from even his story. Figured it was over boys. But no boys being involved struck me as odd, girls get weirdly jealous over friendships but usually results in lifelong grudges not murder. But a secret like that in a small town? Ya I can see it.

[@SimplySamantha333]

@@davidbanner7096 Yes David, absolutely. It really was a very crazy plot twist. It's all out now though for sure!!! So their plans to keep is secret, really failed in the worst way for them....secret is out, friend is dead and their in jail. Ironic

[@charliejaxx6152]

I started to pick up on that while watching this. I was wondering if the other two had something to hide about one another.

[@macias7125]

they were lesbians?

[@Grayald]

This makes a lot of sense. Their actions didn't make any sense for just not liking her anymore. I thought there must be something to it that wasn't being mentioned. Their actions just didn't make any sense for simply not liking her anymore.

[@Mr.McWatson]

"with friends like these who needs enemies" takes on a whole new meaning

[@dazzlingextremes389]

We true crime junkies really appreciate the honor you gave to this horror of a crime-if that can be said. But you really did represent what happened accurately. Thank you for that. I've always felt awful for her family.

[@johno30197]

WHO NEEDS ENEMIES WHEN YOU HAVE FRIENDS LIKE THESE... #ALLCAPS

[@karak2113]

Exactly why I say "I'd rather be alone, than in the company of people who make me feel alone"

[@tamtam777]

Exactly! I wonder if these girls especially the smirky one was into the occult cuz normal happy teen girls don't do this kinda weird stuff!

[@newagewade4592]

The passive aggressiveness towards himself at the beginning was one of the funniest intros I’ve seen. It made me think of the way I talk to myself. I love it!! 😂

[@oddforestcritter]

😂 yeah, that was good

[@erikastewartdaboss9246]

That was awesome!!! I just love him!!! 🤣💘

[@jonahgeremia1921]

Almost good enough to make me forgive him

[@smoshrocks92]

It actually made me like the video for once 😂😂

[@Shnickers123]

How can you put a laughing emoji after this story…sick man sick…

[@amadorsg1v2]

Bro, who drives 40 plus minutes to smoke?? That would be my first red flag... like you don't want to just smoke on the way to smoke, then smoke on the way home???

[@Keito__37]

Because that was big part of the plan. The whole "Go far so we wont be heard" is just an excuse to make them go as far as possible.

[@i-work-at-enron]

Right, like it's West Virginia. You can drive 5 minutes in any direction and be far away from people.

[@gaylasmith5279]

Unbelievable. The level of betrayal was beyond cruel. Also, every parent's worst nightmare. Glad to have you back. Hope you enjoyed some wonderful family time.

[@amnesiacwhaleshark2413]

Imagine how the parents felt after finding out their daughter was killed by the person they trusted.

[@skydude2485]

@@amnesiacwhaleshark2413 My mothers best friend’s son killed her father, so the killers grand dad. While sitting on a toilet, he had known mental issues but nothing ever violent. The grandad went next door (they lived in the house next door) to check on herbie the son and brought him pizza. Used the restroom and herbie shot him and killed him. Lost her son and father in one day. He also burnt the house down to try and frame it and all. He’s in a psych ward since and that was 17 years ago or so.

[@Vedurin]

It's sick ! It's not simply cruel or whatever, it's sick ! Kids being convinced they would have to *kill* each other ?!?!?! What the heck !?

[@philliam111]

@@jeegupopli1871 its not the place to make stupid jokes. Have some respect

[@Andy.G8]

@@philliam111 Who are you to say when an appropriate time to make a joke is? Sad situation but policing peoples thoughts? Lmao

[@l.v.2569]

Don’t burn yourself out! I’d rather have a story once a week than none. Gotta balance your family, yourself, and your creativity/work. Bailey Sarian takes one month a year off and one week a month for her mental health constantly researching such dark stuff. You deserve that time too! ❤️

[@karlynicole5866]

Would love to see her and him do a video collab together!!? We should start a petition! 🤣📜🗳🤣

[@darillus1]

tbh, the only way he was going to get his channel to sky rocket was to post multiple times a week, but now hes got every one hooked once or twice a month is fine

[@DevilFromTha805]

He hasn’t uploaded in two weeks fym

[@rohanplantboyjames6812]

Wish I could take an entire month of work. Actually I wish I could have 2 full days in a row of work, that'd be so cool. One day, dreams are free.

[@donnaclayton8644]

Agreed 💯

[@michellebolyard1388]

Thank you for handling this so tactfully. My youngest daughter got along great with Skylar, but I thank God every day that she didn't get along with Shiela or Rachel at all.

[@MrBallen]

Oh my goodness! Such a tragic story. Glad your daughter is ok!

[@michellebolyard1388]

@@MrBallen , something else sad is that my oldest daughter and her family lived in the home closest to where it happened and they never heard anything.

[@merkcityboy834]

I hope those girls don't get out but the sad thing is they will justice is never really handed down in life hopefully they'll answer for it in the after life I grew up in gangs an drugs been around alot of death but this is by far one of the saddest stories I've heard poor girl didn't deserve that..

[@racheld23biscuitsmom42]

Do you think if it weren’t for Sheila coming in the picture… Skylar would still be here?

[@bananapee86]

Oh no Sheila could had her to! RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@JPrice601]

My son was murdered in 2020. I feel these parents pain. What a living hell it is to go through this. Please watch your children and be up their azz. Idc what they say. Love them everyday. God Bless

[@bubblegumbliss06]

that’s so awful, I really hope you’re okay. I’m sorry for your loss.

[@BellaNighthillMakeup]

im so sorry for your loss

[@RameyRocks]

I am SO sorry. No parent should have to endure that. I pray comfort for you.

[@mapofthesoultagme7143]

Parents should respect kids privacy. I am 24 and my parents have always respected my privacy🎉

[@deliriouswhome1]

​​@@mapofthesoultagme7143privacy is overrated for anyone under the age of 18.. You're 24.. and not old enough yet to understand why.

[@glitchy_stormcloud]

3:40 I love how despite the dad knowing he drank toilet water that’s still one of his fondest memories. What a good dad.

[@cw7147]

😂 I just came here to post about that before the story takes a hard turn

[@Runescape.]

thats an old joke and not true, many comedians have told it over the years.

[@perolden]

Actually, even if you don't clean your toilet bowl after each use, toilet water is cleaner than most creeks in the wild. Those creeks are full of remains of dead animals, urine from animals and poop from animals. All open water resevoir have this, even if household water is somewhat treated, toilet bowl water is perfectly fine, just ask your cat

[@bohemianhh]

That's an old story been going around for years. No idea why they decided to co-opt it for this.

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

Most toilet water is just as clean as faucet water. That is if it's been flushed and the bowl cleaned lol

[@makeminefreedom]

They took something that can never be replaced. Neither of them should ever get out of prison.

[@trawlins396]

But they will. Which stinks. If that was my daughter they'd wish they'd stayed in.

[@godammichael]

@@trawlins396 good thing they'll never feel like apart of society cause why would anyone even go near them after what they did

[@beamis86]

They should totally be out of the cage so they can pay the parents. Pay and pay and pay. It won't bring their daughter back but they also will get paid instead of paying with taxes to keep those two in a cage. Plus it will help economic production by them working to get money to pay to the parents.

[@rastagyaljay]

@@beamis86 Those deplorables can work in prison making license plates. They'll NEVER deserve to be out of a cage. They should've given them the chair.

[@beamis86]

@@rastagyaljay How does that help the parents?

[@HousewerkRecords]

Unbelievable, they should never get out of prison.

[@iansutube]

It should never even be a possibility. No parole hearings for the family to concern themselves with.

[@tomtube1012]

I agree. But what they did makes no sense,. There's no motive given here. They were friends who drifted apart. But how do you go from that to this? (Also from those pictures, you'd never guess they were capable of such evil.) I get a feeling that a large part of the story is missing here.

[@iansutube]

The two who killed the other were romantically involved and they thought she knew it and would eventually spill the beans and wreck their high school reputation. @@tomtube1012

[@yutehube4468]

@@tomtube1012 In my group of friends we all thought one of them was a bit of a douchebag at times and maybe we should drive him somewhere, strip him and leave him there, but nothing we joked about ever happened and even when we joked about doing it, none of it ever involved harming him or wanting to. You can't explain why these girls did this, it's evil beyond what normal folks can explain.

[@ThatGuyJosh14]

@@tomtube1012 I 100% agree with you there is definitely a missing part of this story as I'm pretty sure you wouldn't just wanna kill your friend because they didn't like her or whatever.

[@christophervelasquez2063]

It's horrifying to think that if Rachel hadn't had a nervous breakdown, that eventually led to her confession and the arrest of her and Shiela, that Shiela who seemed like she was a sociopath possibly could have killed again. What a horrible story, yikes.

[@sterlingarcher0007]

I can't imagine what the father was feeling hearing about how his little girl suffered and died needlessly and so cruelly. I have one daughter myself. She's 23 years old. She's a daddy's girl and my pride and joy. I don't think I could be as brave and strong as Skylar's father. I would have a mental breakdown

[@thebeastqueen3103]

yeah

[@pamelamorris3148]

Sadly, he has had many break downs, tried to commit suicide himself, it's hard to deal with the tragic death of his little girl.

[@RansomGangsterBox245]

You mind if i take her out to dinner? I’m 24 turning 25 soon I’ll show her a great time and I’ll even be old school about it. Pick her up in my car. give her flowers, introduce myself properly to you, etc etc

[@etc5xx]

@@RansomGangsterBox245 weirdo

[@Mazdatree]

@@RansomGangsterBox245 your a random stranger lol

[@bucketman5241]

Rachel freaking out, running up and down the street, and eventually confessing reminded me of The Telltale Heart by Edgar Allen Poe where the main character guy can hear the dead guy's heartbeat in his head while the police are asking him questions, and he goes absolutely mad and tells on himself.

[@notmilkzanymore3025]

haha dude i read that poem in ela

[@nastyab8003]

The lesson?? Don't talk to cops.

[@darrellboone9274]

She had a conscious(somewhat),whereas the other one had no soul😱

[@taylorkorth2950]

I remember listening to that story as a kid. What’s it called?

[@st6thatch385]

She was probably having non stop nightmares and guilt

[@kimberlypeterson7203]

When I was a kid I had a similar thing happen to me. They didn't plan to kill me, but they did beat me up pretty badly, so this story was very close to home for me. I know the horror she felt, I felt it too. It brought back some of the worst feelings I've ever felt in my life. Rest in peace Skylar....

[@steveorules3972]

That sucks to put that trust in people only to have them harm you. Where you attacked by girls or guys?

[@Reeeeeee12345]

Brootal. I hope you find peace.

[@lightforce4604]

Other girls beat you up?!

[@kimberlypeterson7203]

@@steveorules3972 girls

[@kimberlypeterson7203]

@@lightforce4604 yes

[@kirstenmyrie1999]

This is the story that always gets me. Out of all the true crime I consume this one is it. The fact that it happened right here in my home area is insane. Those girls better never be let out of jail.

[@freekoolaid6952]

I would be genuinely terrified at the incompetence of the police. The fact they had just one single piece of evidence showing where Skyler had gone, into this mysterious car, and they never even thought to ask the last 2 people to see her alive "hey what cars you drive?" fucking baffles me. Not that it would have saved her life but probably would have solved the crime months earlier 😔 shocking tbh.

[@joshzepeda2946]

They really did make me sad

[@angelia8125]

Regardless of the victim’s young age, this was a completely premeditated brutal murder - of any person. These girls should never see the light of day. The are psychopaths. No excuse for what they did. My deepest condolences to her parents. I can’t imagine anything worse.

[@lindaphillips5768]

They should never see the light of day again, why wasn’t this treated as a kidnapping murder, as they crossed state lines, it at least should have been federal. Beautiful girl in the prime of her life, my sincerest condolences to her parents!!! ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY THOSE 2 GIRLS SHOULD NEVER EVER GET OUT OF PRISON!!!!!!

[@Firestorm214]

I feel terrible for the parents, the fact Rachel tried to apologize is fucking stupid. “Oh yes, I forgive you for tricking my daughter and brutally murdering her because you did not like her anymore.” Fucking stupid.

[@petefarmer3514]

Agreed, NO excuse for what they did. Should've granted them Hard Time. Meaning, making big rocks into little bits of rock. That we call gravel. My condolences.

[@kristinhammit9058]

Young premeditated murderers are irredeemable

[@sherryditzler7908]

The real psycho is Sheila who had the friend pay allegiance to her. So that Sheilia could fulfill her psychotic dream

[@Alex-lt1yy]

Can’t believe I came across this video because Rachel Shoaf was denied parole literally 12 hours ago! Love to see it!

[@LimuEmu420]

Glad to hear that

[@thomasschwarting5108]

Wow, cool!

[@Depax-v2v]

Oh wooooow, glad to hear that

[@Depax-v2v]

That’s sooo cool

[@Depax-v2v]

They both must rot in prison or better still death sentences is their portion

[@grasual_]

holy shit. i had to do a double take when you said they started stabbing her. what absolute psychopaths. people think teenage bullying is juvenile and insignificant, but stories like this show how far it can escalate. the scariest part is how unexpected it can be for those surrounding the victim -- it feels embarrassing to say your friends are treating you poorly, so you go around acting like everything is normal. so heartbreaking

[@jimm7346]

Reminds me of the slenderman stabbing out here by me in Wisconsin. Human beings are insane.

[@johnreid8115]

@@jimm7346 I was just about to mention that case.

[@marvin60000]

The world really is an evil place. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.

[@danielcobb4343]

Seems like there are more people this day and age that tend to be more off kilter than there were 20-30 years ago.

[@yvonnewilson2242]

@@jimm7346 I could be wrong... BUT... The Slenderman stabbings didn't have the MO for "We don't like this bitch... LET'S KILL HER." At least the Slenderman Stabbing was based on a delusion.

[@Michaelle_Marie]

This case is a lot scarier now that I have a daughter. This is so scary because this case shows you don't have to only be worried about your enemies, you have to worry about the people closest to you, not just spouses but best friends as well. Those you trust the most will take you out first. I would be more worried about those that say they love you before anyone else...

[@Aaron-mi3lm]

You’ve talked about some truly morbid, macabre things but this is the first MrBallen video that made me feel unwell. Betrayal like that is chilling.

[@JayFal68]

There's some awful stories out there

[@menschlich3183]

Yeah I can't believe she fed her dad toilet water...

[@D1026-p8h]

I know right like I fall asleep to these videos and this is the most unsettling story so far

[@D1026-p8h]

@@menschlich3183 LOOL😂😂😂😂😂

[@jevaughneseivwright8779]

@@menschlich3183 o my god 😀😀😀😀

[@fromagebritney]

I work with teenagers from troubled backgrounds and circumstances. It is completely unsurprising that teens are capable of this kind of cruelty. They can get an idea in their head and it becomes truth when strongly tied to emotions. I try so hard to teach empathy and critical thinking, but it's becoming more of a battle every year.

[@jimreilly917]

You can teach critical thinking…reasoning is a thought process. You cannot teach empathy, because that is rooted in emotion. Knowledge and reason are objective. Emotions are subjective…or lack of.

[@0_Katt_0]

The more highly educated and introspective a person is, the greater their emotional intelligence will be. They possess stronger reasoning skills and the capacity to consider the consequences of their actions and how this will impact other people. The majority of violent crimes are committed by youth in poverty (young, uneducated, and desperate is a bad combination)

[@0_Katt_0]

The girls in this story were poor and from the working class (like in most of these stories). Skylar was working at Wendy’s and lived in an apartment with her parents (who still both had to work to live in a small apartment). I grew up in a wealthy area & even the poorest among us still had houses & didn’t force their teenagers to work

[@davehoward22]

@@0_Katt_0 if your from a poor family and want money, unless someone's happy on welfare,,you have to go to work,there shouldn't be any forcing the teenagers,their parents can't be giving 17/18 year olds pocket money.

[@remypascal4872]

The first socialisation years of being narcissistic (princesses). It is to prevented to be a life philosophy. But all s-media and school-worth-leveling + parents, that handle you as well like an investment + such poser friends + low education critical thinking tendencies of all sides of "comfort society" soak them into that. From right to the 'mainstream' to the even new narcissistic wore superficial 4thwave f. left, all do a party of this, with the selfwort upvaluing game. Most cover it a bit later after teen age and life it out at manipulate partners, winning over others, compensation consume(even in style, ident. and sex)... Behind closed doors mainly or public as "good knights" of a moral(rules) judgement. Such left (the rest of course especially), that cannot stand the meaning of the songtitle "working class hero" in its depth without chanceling it(aka splittig)...

[@laurenecarter246]

As a mother of a 6 year old girl, this utterly terrifies me. I know this is a rare case and doesn't happen every day, but it makes you want to bundle them up and protect them forever.

[@Rothnacum1]

Show her this video when she's 12 or 13. Heavy drugs: Take her to a detox clinic and let her hear the "smart" junky speak how he got there. Suicide thoughts: Tell her that the moment you take your life we get to see our lifes grafic/ pulse where you can see there were to come greater heights of happiness than ever before but you cant come back. Good luck in life

[@Gbhbbgvsbnjhhdchhb]

Bad parenting…. The next generation are monsters… obviously some worse than others…God have mercy on Skylar’s parents… what they must be going through

[@Ashleyflatt86]

I have 2 teenage daughters, 15 and 16. And this chills me to my very core! Girls are mean and I've told my girls to nvr ever fully trust anyone like this. Girls at this age are so naive and wanting to have a friend and be liked. And in the same they're also very nasty and vindictive and cruel. I remember my high school years and I hated it. Even still to this day I still do. That poor girl😢

[@kopawhite1399]

I feel for all of you and for them too, around this age range most people think any teens who are not in a bad crowd would ever do this. But no one can know what's going on in teens, children, or adults mind. Not just the nice neighbor, quiet kid in class, but anybody can do this horrible

[@savannahjohnson633]

My daughter is almost 14. Ive shared this case w her. Because it scares tf outta me

[@spookyspawnz6393]

The fact that they would have gotten away with it if the little girl didn’t crack is wild. At some point they should have been questioned harshly since they was the last ones to see her

[@roycerodolfo5485]

In every story he’s done, he tells them so well. He even explained what Wendy’s was.

[@3DCGdesign]

he knows his audience is international.

[@alexandriav3956]

Lol I seriously thought about this too.

[@foximusprime4893]

For the international viewers, not everyone knows Wendy's.

[@meyerlemon3776]

Oh, that Wendy's...

[@morganraye7769]

He also puts the differences for the Canadian and American measurements!

[@kimberlyjones6607]

Mr Ballen everyone needs a break every now and then…but you have a good reason…congrats on the little newbie! He’s absolutely adorable! And thank you 🙏 for your dedicated service to keep our freedom and all of your guys that served! God Bless You!

[@aprilcheney586]

He had a break he took a break a week before thanksgiving and during thanks giving i think he'll be okay

[@GOREFEAST]

@@aprilcheney586 what are you talking about? He is already back. And OP knew why he took a break...

[@ammakambing9654]

@@aprilcheney586 r/ihadastroke

[@atonionn]

i am 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@schrungy5757]

I am glad he atleast knows some of us missed his videos after he said he would upload a bunch. Nice job calling urself out lol

[@martinkirby3100]

These evil girls should never be released from prison they've killed once and may do so again they took a life and therefore should spend the rest of theirs behind bars

[@suonatar1]

In a couple of years Sheila will show up in some talk-show and say "Yea, I totally killed her. Buy my book!"

[@warcryme4176]

Based on that knowledge anybody who kills should be behind bars? So what your telling me is for example, you'll let a man kill you? Wow ignorant =/

[@grimreefer42083]

I'd want them to be released if that happened to my girl. That way they wouldn't have the protection of being in jail

[@cariadbach]

@@grimreefer42083 Absolutely!!!!

[@kennethburch4868]

I agree. They should never see the light of day again.

[@viktoriachannel9461]

“We found out finally after 11 long years what the real reason why they murdered Skylar,” Neese said Thursday on WAJR’s “Talk of the Town.” ” She (Rachel Shoaf) was in a relationship with Shelia Eddy, a gay relationship and they were both afraid Skylar was going to tell people.” This is also what I heard in an another video covering this case. So horrible.

[@maosenju5444]

The toilet water thing had me. She was truly a humorous child, may she rest in peace.

[@jaysmith4657]

Waiting for this comment

[@ianmangham4570]

That's bollocks

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

That's not humor, that's resourcefulness.

[@rogerd4559]

I was waiting for the narrator to say how the father died a horrible death from drinking the toilet water

[@SS-du7tr]

@@rogerd4559 same, he made such a point of it I thought it was going to have some ominous repercussions related to it

[@kevinchen3405]

It's scary knowing how Rachel and Sheila could have gotten away with it forever. It just goes to show us how there could be hundreds of people that have been murdered like this and that the criminals probably got away. The world is truly a cruel place in the dark.

[@redshirt49]

The number one thing police look for when looking for leads is motive. If there isn't one, it makes finding the trail of breadcrumbs nearly impossible without a tip. Most murder mysteries are solved because someone outside the police comes forward with a tip.

[@maryt9663]

They’ll get what’s coming to them! In this life or another.

[@asphaltspreader]

@@maryt9663 Sheila perhaps... we can never know the mind of God. Rachel genuinely seemed remorseful.

[@maryt9663]

@@asphaltspreader I have absolutely no sympathy for either of these creeps! Let’s remember the real victim (s) here. I hope they both enjoy their living and forever hell!

[@asphaltspreader]

@@metal_fusion I do not know... been a while since I saw the Dateline NBC video (its here on KZbin). I think that says where they are held. Also searching online for Skylar Neese Wiki may reveal as well.

[@jamesa3818]

Hope you enjoyed your break John, you deserved quality time with the family in the holiday season. But that's not to say I wasn't like a drug addict suffering withdrawal waiting for the next release. Your story telling is so on point!!

[@kristinamrdja6160]

I agree!! I've never followed a KZbinr this way before but the way he tells stories is just so compelling. I found myself checking his channel for new videos even though I get notifications haha

[@user-ugrvdhnjjvfgj]

@@kristinamrdja6160 exactly

[@ThatOneGirlWithTheFace]

Literally 😭😭😭 HE IS THE BEST! I was so deprived waiting for him! 🤣😭❤️

[@NaEric1820]

I know I've been thinking same thing be over scratchin my neck straight feigning lol.

[@alvakarlsson8148]

ageeed

[@natashaankrom]

grew up in the same town as her. I’m only a 2 years younger than her actually. it scared everyone. I still watch videos about it more so just to remember her atp. always felt so bad for her and what happened. so glad Rachel didn’t make parole.

[@Jared_Wignall]

When normal people don’t want to be friends with someone, they just stop being friends with that specific person. They don’t just up and kill them. This is a truly sad story.

[@djrychlak4443]

You haven't met Terry Wasinski.

[@bobburger9152]

This is senseless premeditated MURDER! At the VERY LEAST THESE TWO should have gotten LIFE WITHOUT ANY CHANCE of early RELEASE! I THINK THE DEATH SENTANCE would be appropriate!

[@kyoakland]

They're psychopaths that's why

[@Tiorickyzx]

Sounds about white

[@Adeliaaddy]

Heard of this story a couple of times before, but never about her when still a little child. MrBallen had made this more personal and intimate. Thank you sir

[@angelamckinney8139]

There is a tribute video that was made for her.

[@thelink6756]

That story was so adorable. Hate is a strong word and I usually push for 2nd chances when I can... but both of these two don't deserve it. The one who felt remorseful was the same girl who was her bestfriend from early grade school.. how pathetic do you gotta be to take the life of someone who's known you and cared for you for that many years.. because you got closer to another literally crazy b****. Line they took turns doing what they did to her. Imo those two deserve to rot for the rest of their lives.

[@thatwasweird954]

I almost didn't watch this video, because I've heard this story endless times. But MrBallen really made the story new, with details I hadn't heard before. He's so good at doing that.

[@jayalmond4462]

I did the same thing

[@eyepeeoh]

I didn't even recognize the case until the security footage at 14 min. Gifted orator

[@candicetaylor2043]

Yup

[@izzymiller2058]

Like the toilet water tea cups! Omg.

[@C.dieslevonankwek7]

You got that right

[@cordeliachase601]

I’m obsessed with this true crime. I’ve read Shelia’s tweets and it was clear, she was the mastermind behind this crime. Also, killing Skylar because of their fear of their lesbian relationship being gossiped around school really backfired as ironic as it could get. Not only did the school find out, but the public. And even if Skylar told the school about the 2 girls relationship, I doubt their peers would have cared or it would soon become yesterday’s if they did. They could have just denied it. Now they’re in prison forever wasting away, meanwhile all their peers they were so afraid of being judged by graduated, went off to college and are living their young adult lives, not giving second thought to these 2 girls. They killed their best friend for their peers, and their peers couldn’t have cared-less what their relationship was. This just goes to show how underdeveloped teenagers minds are. Everything really does feel like the end of the world when you’re in high school. But you don’t go all evil and kill innocent friends because of it. 🤦🏻‍♀️Shelia and Rachel made their beds.

[@angelapyle7301]

That was perfect ❣️👍

[@kalielik]

I have been mistaken of being in a lesbian relationship by my school and it’s horrible to be questioned everyday ”Are you and ### in a relationship” even though you deny it. It kept going on like that for 4 years until I graduated.

[@maxim397]

@@kalielik not wanting do be offending but its mostly Teenager Girls that do cruel shit like this,its the ducking chormones that make them go crazy.

[@kalielik]

@@maxim397 I have had the thoughts but never thought of actually doing it.

[@austinlucas6273]

Shelia was the one who is given a life sentence and Rachel broke down and confessed and given 30 years.

[@yippikiyay8375]

I graduated class of 2015 from UHS, same high school that this happened. This really was something that rocked everyone. I was apart of a Christian youth group called Young Life. Rachel was also part of Young Life. The entire time that Skylar was missing Rachel was still coming to Young Life meetups every Wednesday. And then one day she wasn’t there and soon after the news came out that she participated in the murder. And this group of 10 or 15 high schoolers including me just didn’t know how to react. It was just a very weird feeling that we had been hanging out with a murderer for months. We never had any reason to think that this pretty girl that we hung out with often, stabbed a girl to death. Still gives me chills to this day.

[@jannyhawkins7135]

So sad😢. Monsters are real but they are human.

[@MrBallen]

Wow. Just wow. That’s a crazy story

[@dwatts64]

The last two sentences of your comment sounds like you're saying that the pretty girl you knew, often stabbed girls to death.

[@G_Robb]

@@dwatts64 No, because there's a comma between often and stabbed. I love good punctuation.

[@lpool5100]

The Enemies are Everywhere...thank you for posting!!!

[@SugarSugarCreek]

As a parent of mostly grown children, my heart breaks for these parents.

[@katiemontigue3820]

So today, WE'RE the like button??? 😯

[@aundreadrea11]

This whole story broke my heart. What would make someone do that to someone they’ve known since second grade

[@noahjones5600]

I don't understand it. How are young women capable of this? Almost dare I say...demonic.

[@Palladiumavoid]

@@noahjones5600 sheyla was a paychpath

[@jamescasady3356]

The parents of all three kids. Almost worse in some ways knowing your child is a monster and is still alive.

[@levisays7676]

0:32 😂😂😂 love the subtle self jab at the start 😂😂😂

[@camiruss811]

Yep 😅

[@marcio___]

The more I watch your videos the more I realise that being lonely is a lot safer than being around people you consider as your "friends"

[@victoriabracken6480]

I completely agree. I have two children myself and let me tell you , I am so paranoid that something will happen to them

[@SaintAliaOfTheKnife]

I had to take a break from true crime. I became agoraphobic, because of other things, but watching Bailey & John made it worse & I had to stop. But here I am. & probably shouldn't be. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@stevenmael]

Predators always go for the doe standing alone away from the pack, youre only as safe as you make yourself.

[@joshboyfuture9698]

You can't live in fear guys. Maybe this statistic will help. 70% of murder victims are criminals with felony records. Don't put yourself in situations and around people that you know are dangerous. Now the other 30% are the thing to worry about but that's actually a small percentage and that's why we all make such a big deal. Nobody's making videos of drug dealers killing people over drug debts because that happens every day and it's not a shock. Also buy a gun get a permit for said gun and take it f****** everywhere with you. Better to have it and not need it

[@markmcelroy1872]

@@joshboyfuture9698 I would totally watch a true crime channel where they cover random drug dealers getting murdered because they insulted their neighbor's sister.

[@gillieography]

Love how you called yourself out 😂. Well played, but everyone needs a break and balance between work and life, even when work is KZbin. No worries!

[@VE-cu1dj]

This! That's what I came here to say too! : )

[@sandecox6031]

I was thinking the same thing 😂

[@deeznutz1966]

This!

[@laughallthewaytohellx]

i literally came into this video like “oh he’s not gonna comment on going missing for 3 weeks like a 411 case?” but he redeemed it lol

[@donovanweflen1583]

Felt that was a callout to me with my everyday life!! It's okay we are all trying our best :)

[@garytb3816]

I hope that they both get refused parole and that they spend the rest of their lives in misery. They both were old enough to understand what they planned to do was absolutely horrific and yet they betrayed a friend in the most heinous way, rip Skylar and condolences to her parents. Thank you for sharing her story Mr Ballen, I got a chuckle from that absent bit, it’s ok to take a break, you gave us so many to keep us occupied.

[@koDaffi]

This happened not far from me. Sadly no they aren't suffering. They are in a cozy Club Fed type prison where they even have tennis courts. If you look at their new mugshots they are smiling and wearing make up etc. Was a horrible tragedy, they should have been punished more.

[@matthewlarue1883]

I hope they get out, then maybe the families can get some real justice. I think true justice is letting the families decide and if they want the death penalty as justice, then they should land the killing blow. Its the only true way in my opinion. Only the loved ones left behind should be allowed to use the death penalty, not the state, unless there is no family.

[@cameleonfleuri]

You perfectly summerrized my thought! I also hope they gonna stay in jail.

[@greatpower6063]

i hope they don't get put in jail; hope they build a jail on top of them.

[@marianserra8371]

Thank you for your words. I am haunted by this story...what a way to say " hey gang ,Im back! "

[@aditya95sriram]

Updates from Wikipedia: - On May 9, 2023, Rachel's bid for parole was denied. - During that parole hearing, Rachel finally gave a motive - she and Shelia had been in a romantic relationship and this caused tension between the couple and Neese.

[@johnnyblade51]

Yes that is correct. I have heard this case story before and this video left out a lot of details. As a matter of fact, Rachel and Sheila had started getting closer, and Skylar had noticed it and was becoming very uncomfortable with it. Skylar had a very good upbringing and home life, where as Sheila was a trouble maker. During a sleepover that the three had one night, both Rachel and Sheila engaged in kissing and oral sex right in front of Skylar. That was the tipping point that started the chain of events that lead to the two of them killing Skylar.

[@NickBurns-ey6od]

That wasn't new information. We knew that in 2015

[@simplynon-traditional]

I really appreciate the deference you pay the victims in your stories. I like that their lives aren’t just boiled down to their final moments as in some other retellings (speaking to the genre more broadly)

[@MrBallen]

Thank you 🙏

[@JustDawn]

Wow, that's crazy. Most KZbinrs I watch.. including MrBallen, always give back stories. Whoever you're talking about sounds no better then what you hear on the news. 🤨

[@simplynon-traditional]

@@JustDawn I’ve seen some other creators do a good job, too. It appears some other creators have a more of a cut-to-the-chase approach, and that may or may not be more appropriate for the format (works better for 911 calls). I’ve seen some others, however, that either skip these types of intros or sensationalize the facts to keep people coming. There’s just a great variety of self-regulation and personal ethical standards across this platform. Kudos to those that do the right thing.

[@TheCardsharp]

The fact they're eligible for parole at all is another crime that was committed against Skyler and her family.

[@jaimealvarezmd7245]

The courts at all levels are broken af. Judges use emotions, biases and feelings to hand down verdicts and sentences

[@josealexi5141]

I hope they get out. that leaves them exposed ...

[@flacsmada]

extremely light sentencing

[@riogrande5761]

@@flacsmada This is partly why we have so much crime in the US. My daughter visited Japan last October and was telling me they take crime very seriously so the rate of crime is considerably lower in Japan.

[@VSaltyEggsV]

parole isnt freedom

[@mikedineen7857]

My daughter knew those girls in high school and I knew Dave through a former employer. This was awful all the way around. The HS kids had this one figured out in a week. The state police did also but waited until they had a watertight case against them.

[@Anomalocaria]

makes sense. they weren't exactly flight risks and in it was personally motivated so they wouldn't have had much reason to believe they were at any immediate risk of reoffending.

[@mcfail3450]

Yeah I have to think the camera footage is at least enough to get the make and model of the car. Then they would have surely figured out the friend's cars make and model and matched them.

[@culcune]

@@mcfail3450 That was a good way to throw off the kids--pretend they had 'no idea' whose car that was.

[@KurtMidas1510]

Knowing something is different to prove something

[@jeffreyprice9790]

He changed somethings with the story to make it well... A better story but those murders have like video logs of talking about Skylar how she's a hoe and a bitch and she's gonna get what she deserves. The cops did have eyes on them immediately after interviewing classmates as well as video evidence of the car but a common model car with no significant indicators isnt solid evidence. Also with murder cases the most important thing you need is a body. Still to this day no body no murder no murder weapon no murder. Justice system isn't about who actually did what it's about who can prove or in Americas case who can paint the best picture of what happened. Innocent people are convicted everyday due to this exact fact.

[@ng961-b3u]

This channel is so addictive. The way you gradually tell the story and leave the full truth til the end in some vids is so good and gripping.

[@lorihopkins6328]

This one is really sad. Her “friends” truly stabbed her in the back… and her parents had trusted them as well. That just compounds the grief when you find out your daughter’s friends not only lied about everything but they committed the act. Praying for the family’s comfort as we approach the anniversary of her death 😥

[@IceStone69]

Amen

[@lawliet2263]

Hey hey send those teens over to my house and I'll teach them how to really stab from behind , t🤗🤗

[@DarrkSixx]

I know the story takes a turn, but in regards to what's being talked about around the 12 minute mark: this is why I always make sure anyone I drop off anywhere is inside their house before I pull off, no matter what. I will watch someone go inside 1,000 times because what if the one time I don't, something bad happens?

[@CR-wk2re]

I do this too, and I get kinda judgemental if someone doesn't do his for me when they drop me off lol. My friends think I'm paranoid, but I think most people aren't cautious enough.

[@pixpusha]

I'm the same way. I think it's a good habit if at night, to make sure you physically see the person either enter their home and shut the door behind them or enters their vehicle and safely pulls off.

[@Whazzar]

You haven't really dropped someone at home when you haven't seen them enter the house tbh

[@DarrkSixx]

@@CR-wk2re fr I don't normally get dropped off at this point but in high school I would a lot and people would just drive off 😂 so I would get angry they didn't wait for me to go inside

[@DarrkSixx]

@@pixpusha yes precisely! My biggest thing is what if somebody forgets their house key or in the situation you listed their car doesn't start? It'd be nice to have someone who knows you ready to help sitting there as opposed to being alone

[@ChiTownsFinest1225]

Half of us stalked you more than the psychos you tell us about. Welcome back Ballen, we sure did miss ya.

[@katie3657]

😆

[@Lettea1]

I did do a bit of stalking over the holiday.

[@glitterBombBaby]

Lol. Facts though....

[@MrBallen]

Hahah thanks!!

[@brucedunford2754]

Sure did

[@BryantHayward67]

So incredibly heartbreaking that any person can think this way, much less act this way toward anyone! Especially a person that they have been friends with for so long. 😢

[@emmaliesehall4866]

The jab at yourself was hilarious😂 Everbody needs a break sometimes, but we're glad to have you back! I admit I was a little concerned. Hope all is well!

[@JonathanMartinez-kv1eb]

Yeah the like button part I caught that too 😂

[@darinkubin2596]

😂

[@user-fx3zk8rd6g]

That was just killer 🤣🤣🤣

[@dook228]

Unfortunately he didn't take a break, KZbin was dicking him over on uploads and flags etc..

[@dontworry1568]

i figured he was running out of stories to find.

[@melanieduane6089]

I also remember she was hesitant to leave with them, fearing they'd beat her up. But they convinced her that they were not going to hurt her. I wish she'd have listened to her instincts and they should never get released

[@alexanderboyer7720]

They should get a rope necklace. Rope is cheap and reusable.

[@aardvarkbiscuit2677]

Never ever ignore that gut instinct/feeling. Millions of years of evolution have developed certain senses to help keep us safe. The problem is people just don't seem to understand that there are predators in human bodies all around us all the time and ignore that instinctual feeling