The Disturbing Truth of Family Channels | The 8 Passengers Saga

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Join me as we delve into the chaotic controversy surrounding the 8 passengers parents, Ruby and Kevin Franke.
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[@davidkosiborod8255]

My world's on fire, how bout yours?

[@itsnghtmre4363]

Never clicked on a yt notification so fast

[@hotep360]

David Kosiborod that’s the way I like it and I never get bored

[@Iluvmitski_]

Hello thanks for coming back from your hiatus 😅😍😚

[@Emisyourmajesty]

🤠

[@TheCityCatYT]

The irony of her not allowing them to have social media while also forcing them to be on her youtube channel.

[@sleepfgc]

Imagine growing up under such narcissistic opressing hypocrite parents...

[@thethe5013]

Metal Gear Karen

[@maddiemainer]

It’s about control. Imagine if one of the older kids ranted on twitter or Instagram about the absolute hell their parents put them through.

[@k.jellyoiru3075]

These poor kids are going to have a shit ton of anxiety and other mental illnesses when they become older. They have had a camera and thousands, even millions of internet strangers from all over the world, watching them for the majority of their vital years of growing. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if they would suffer from anxiety and paranoia of people constantly watching them.

[@ryanciani3324]

thats not true at all

[@kaylee01]

The fact that this was made 3 YEARS before anything was actually done is insane

[@ashleyrose4115]

Really sad. Those poor kids.

[@TheOliviaarmand]

Sadly, if kids have even the minimal amount of clothing, food, and housing, then cps doesn't give a shit until someone becomes extremely hurt, like taken to the hospital, or something abusive becomes public.. even then it's a shoot in the dark and they may not step in to help

[@MeOhMyOh2324]

My thoughts exactly. Why wasn’t something done sooner? I’d never heard of Ruby until her arrest but she obviously had a reputation. And it’s obvious from these videos that the husband was a part. Where is his arrest warrant??

[@bellamango6708]

literally nothing gets done in child abuse cases if they appear well off. :( not even with sexual abuse, witholding of food, threats and violence@@MeOhMyOh2324

[@arachin6571]

It actually hurts to listen to Russel blame himself for something like this...

[@ScottDavid7]

I cannot STAND when parents say things like food and a room and privacy are a "privilege". Having a life is not a privilege, they didn't fucking ask to be born

[@nihilismistheonlyway4680]

Yep. And especially in these "religious" families they only have as many children because their religion tells them to. I come from a family of 9... they only had us because of catholicism.

[@AlectricEel]

Fr they were killing their children as punishment it's insane😭

[@effkay3691]

Well they have to say this otherwise they couldn’t live with themselves

[@coffeecrimegal5968]

Most definitely not food because food is a necessity. Not a room because they need a place to rest & or sleep which is also a necessity. But privacy, privacy is not a necessity but a luxury and is earned with children. I have to be able to trust my child for them to have privacy! And no I’m not talking about bathroom privacy that of which is completely different!

[@ISEEKSPACE]

@@coffeecrimegal5968 I think privacy is a necessity for a kid. Especially if they're learning to ask for what they need and a little privacy is not the end of the world. Imagine being a child having to share a classroom with 20 kids a day for 8 hours straight, 5 days a week, then come home and have to share family time, then go to their bedroom that they also share with a sibling. If my kid comes to me and says can I be in my room for a little while, I'm gonna read or draw or watch tv that should be okay. The door, however, cannot be locked. They're expressing to me they need their time and thats okay. I believe there are healthy forms of privacy a kid should have because dealing with different people, especially siblings all day long, can be a lot. It's also important for their development and boundary setting. It can also teach them that its okay to ask for what they need when they need it and have those needs respected by others. Kids need time to think, they need time to digest the world around them, they're constantly absorbing all kinds of information and attitudes and it can be a lot for a kid. As grown ups we forget that kids need a moment too.

[@ErBeary]

"You have no idea what real abuse is." My abusive parents said that EXACT SAME THING. It's terrifying that abusive people have no idea that they are actually abusive. I was also denied food as a child, had black pepper put in my mouth, was locked in the basement with the lights off, beaten with a metal spoon, had my mouth duct taped shut, had a diaper duct taped onto me when I accidentally wet the bet at age 7, was dragged out of bed by my ankle down a flight of stairs for leaving a cup in the sink before bed, had electronics taken away that I paid for with my own money, had to buy my own food and clothes at age 11 (also had to work at that age to buy those things), etc.. My head and ears were beat so often that I would get headaches and hear ringing for days. That doesn't even cover the emotional, spiritual, and religious abuse that I endured. If I ever complained about their treatment, I was told that I had no idea what real abuse was and that if I ever said anything to anyone, I would be sent to a juvenile detention center and then to jail. It was a horrible time growing up. I am so glad that I am an adult now. My heart aches for these children, because I know that they will have permeant scars from this forever. I was diagnosed with PTSD and anxiety when I was 22 years old. I still struggle with my mental health, 10 years later. Although I am free now, my childhood still haunts me. Stories like this bring back all the bad memories.

[@arunaramkissoon7372]

So sry you had to endure this.

[@abelis644]

I am so sorry that you endured this hideous torture. I just don't understand why some people have kids if they're going to treat then like shit. I am 64 years old. Apparently I cried for the 1st 3 months of my life, I was a tiny baby at birth. My parents could very well have mistreated me since they must have been exhausted and felt they helpless. But no, they nurtured and cared for me. I never got a spanking that I can remember. I am so grateful to have has such parents. I think I would have withered away if I has been beaten and treated as you were. You must be such a strong person!!! My heart breaks for you and I admire you, you are so brave!. I wish you all the best, much love, joy, happiness and good health. You deserve only the best. Take good care of yourself and be safe. 👋🇨🇦🌷⚘🌻

[@Moonlightraveler777]

I’m so sorry for all that trauma you endured at the hands of your own parents. I’m sending you so much healing ❤️‍🩹 ,strength ,love,and Peace of mind. ❤❤❤

[@izabelak.31]

They have the idea. They just gaslight their kids.

[@AW-uv3cb]

So sorry that you had to go through this. I don't understand why some people even have children. I'm glad you're out of that environment and hope you continue to get better!

[@monilove4088]

The fact that the children say “don’t film this”” don’t show that” “turn off the camera” but the parents ignore it and continue on is horrible

[@LunaticTheCat]

One of the biggest problems with family channels is kids are too young to consent to being filmed even if they say they are okay being filmed. But then there's these sociopaths that film their kids when they clearly say they don't want to be filmed. It's so disgusting.

[@Ok-rd1zd]

It’s sad because, it’s not hard to turn your kids into cash cows.

[@Liliana_the_ghost_cat]

@@LunaticTheCat hey, even sociopaths are better than these assholes

[@Jxshdoesntcap]

That shits a breach of privacy🤦🏻‍♂️ this why I don’t fuck wit y’all people

[@Leorakatify]

It's absolutely some of the most exploitative "vlogging" I've heard of. Where the hell is social services?

[@Eric_The_Eccentric]

This dude, literally a stranger on the internet, is censoring the kids' faces out of respect while their mom exploits them mercilessly. Yeah she's the best mom in the worst way I guess.

[@bella-rj2km]

And basically all of her followers only follow her because they think her oldest boy who is 15 (a minor) is attractive and its sooo messed up. Him and most of her kids dont even like being on camera.

[@438soph3]

@@bella-rj2km most people that call him attractive is normally his age

[@al_lee_.a]

And what’s makes matters worse is that she films random people without them even realizing sometimes

[@trenaareen1216]

j aubrey always censors kids, you'll see this in his other videos too. He's very respectful of children's rights.

[@JanderStrahd]

He showed two of them, and something he obviously shouldn't have.

[@tasha7726]

Ruby doesn't even seem like she likes her kids, let alone love them. She seems like the kind of person who had children because of societal expectations and not because she wanted them.

[@susiebrown6646]

Im so glad the law has caught up to them.

[@bbbb7940]

I think she had kids only because she loves tormenting and inflicting abuse. You don't have 6 kids out of social pressure.

[@susiebrown6646]

@@bbbb7940 - the father should be a arrested too. He knew

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

She only had children so she could have extensions of herself, not to mention playthings to hurt to her own black heart's desire. She loves abusing her kids just as much as she loves her ego, she's proud of being a terrible person.

[@theGobFather17]

She wanted accessories. Their was societal expectations too, but she strikes me as a narcissist (not a professional, just someone with way too many narcissistic people in my family) and for them they want something they can parade around in front of church members, social clubs, social media. “Look at my little dolls. They do what I tell them. They’re so well behaved and obedient.”

[@no-one-really]

This video is three years old and Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt were only JUST arrested and charged. That speaks volumes to the failures of the system. This abuse has been evident and reported for years...

[@AlectricEel]

The thing Is there is so much evidence that they've had to organise it all for court...

[@makeupmykah9068]

That lady’s going to wonder why her kids aren’t visiting her in about 15 years

[@haileyfm1700]

She won't care she will have her money smhhh

[@courtneylavigne3732]

My mom raised me like this woman did only my brothers could do what they like while I had to be a "lady" and clean up after them. Food was taken away from me a lot. She would take me out of school and make me go shopping and I was not allowed to eat until the shopping was done (usually 9pm at night) because she said I would look bloated in the clothing if I did. I had a stroke two years ago at 24 doctors think it was due to stress. Thankfully I am married and live no where near my mom now. When I lost a large portion of my vision from the stroke and started using a white cane she decided she was too embarrassed to be around me now and hasn't seen me. It's going to be funny when karma bites her in the butt at a nursing home where they will abuse her for a change.

[@chxleae5906]

Courtney Lavigne I am so sorry, u deserved better ✨💕

[@courtneylavigne3732]

Chloe Atkins thanks friend lots of people go through something similar I try to speak about it publicly because it’s kind of taboo to speak bad of your mom even if they are abusive. I grew up a wealthy home so it’s harder for other adults to see the abuse.

[@chxleae5906]

Courtney Lavigne I’m glad ur living your life now, take care :)

[@vanveleca]

Ruby is the kind of woman who doesn't want children, she wants babies, she wants to have power over her baby rather than help make them grow into a person

[@joeyjoe292]

Exactly. It’s like she wants her kids to live for her rather than for her to live for her kids.

[@orimengu]

She has a hole in her soul and she tries to fill it with babies, but it's never enough, they eventually grow up and she doesn't like them anymote

[@franky2347]

She seems like she might have narcissistic personality disorder

[@ezrastardust3124]

Sounds like my mother

[@sdbsdb4551]

@Ezra Stardust r u ok

[@MATT-ij6wo]

Ruby Franke was arrested very recently, and charged with 6 counts of child abuse. Her friend, Jodi Hildebrandt, was also arrested on 6 counts of child abuse. They are being held in jail with no bond. Justice will be served to these horrible women!

[@nihilismistheonlyway4680]

Holy cr*p i just realized the part where ruby and Kevin defend their abuse by saying it was actually "advised" by a "therapist" they are talking about JODI aren't they?!??! Yikes!!!! 😱😱

[@natalierose13]

A lot of people are just realizing this 😫 I saw someone else bring it up, it’s like 😮😮😮😮😮 oh my god, probably!

[@emilymschoener9193]

Yes.

[@wildfire9280]

Sponsored by the State of Utah* *On advice of the Church of Latter-day Saints

[@galacticglitchTV]

"i as a parent, im not responsible for how my child feels" we're off to a great start.

[@sirapple589]

The duty of a parent is to care for their child to the best of their ability. To claim that the mental well-being (that’s what feelings relay) of your child isn’t your responsibility is fuckheaded at best.

[@Browneyedgirl-m9b]

SAME!!!!! 🤣😳

[@feap0d]

Ikr

[@MirandaSinistra]

15 mins in and I legit think this woman is a monster. What kind of mom threatens to take food from their child as punishment? Or refuses to bring their 5 year old lunch at school?

[@scout669]

This hits a little too close to home

[@isabellegapper3212]

She won’t be smiling when her kids turn 18 and never speak to them again

[@precious.929]

That’ll be a happy day

[@holybird692]

She’ll probably just adopt a kid from a far off country for “diversity” then strip the kid’s culture and neglect them like she did to her current kids

[@alicekipourou6732]

Damn right!

[@Amber321]

That's going to be Chad

[@amandawilb8831]

Actually, she probably will be.

[@IRgEEK]

You called this one 3 years ago. Nailed it. "Ruby Franke (born 1982) is a former American family vlogger who ran the now defunct KZbin channel called 8 Passengers. On August 30, 2023, she was arrested in Washington County, Utah, and charged with six counts of aggravated child abuse under Utah law."

[@xxPageProxx]

When she says " i don't think our viewers know that" means she herself knows how wrong these punishments sound. She is aware of what she is purposely doing.

[@extinctoart]

Exactly!

[@emilyrasputin]

Ruby: I don't think our viewers know that 😊 *realizes how it makes her look* *doesn't edit it out anyway* Like she's not even just evil and abusive. She's stupid too

[@katflagor1010]

The fact that her daughter assumed that her mom wanted her to put on her bra in front of the camera is the saddest part. She expected her mother to make her share such a private moment it is wrong.

[@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932]

Imagine the type of horrific shit that must happen off-camera if the kids follow enough orders to actually think that that type of thing is within the realm of possibility.

[@mollie9694]

i was embarrassed enough to get my first bra, never mind it being broadcasted to the world!

[@NeptuneRuler]

I know it's off topic but I'm your 1000th like

[@icy9428]

i remember going shopping for my first bra i hated it i can't imagine going tru that infront of millions of people to see especially when you're not familiar with your body yet she's a horrible parent scratch that horrible person

[@Mars0fTheStars1]

I remember going through puberty as a girl, and I wasn’t even comfortable with telling my mom things. I can’t imagine how it must be to have it all recorded.

[@Bijecarli]

Do you want to get abandoned in a nursing home? Because this is how you get abandoned in a nursing home.

[@sarah-zp4cu]

faxxx she also said her kids aren’t welcome to stay after they turn 18... like why would they want to stay there any longer?

[@biancab310]

😂😂😂 word

[@georgedudleysashtray3860]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@emilynightray]

Abandoned in a nursing home is too nice for her.

[@tessanoelle3522]

@@sarah-zp4cu Exactly. My parents always tell me Im welcome to stay as long as I want.

[@bubblegoblin]

Came back here after hearing the news of Ruby’s arrest, to be honest it took CPS and police WAY too long even with ample of evidence that they willingly posted online. I dread to imagine what was actually happening behind the camera.

[@VanteBora]

God......the fact that after your video it still took 3 years for those poor children to be free from this monster.........heartbreaking.

[@fairysoul1682]

She’s probably looked into the lens of that camera more than she’s looked into the eyes of her own children

[@deannahenry8925]

Oh man that true

[@shannon_not_found]

The worst part is that you're probably right.

[@photofreak56]

Dude that is cold. True but cold

[@bellarose1562]

Now THATS a thought

[@autumnkuusselka]

and that's the depressing truth...

[@johnegbert8536]

Child: *has a mental breakdown due to his mother and father raising him terribly* Parents: LeTs ThRoW hIm InTo ThE fUcKiNg dEsErT wiTh a BuNch Of StRaNgErS wiTh OnLy hiS unDerwEar

[@raykeek8883]

this really happened? idk this family until i saw people keep on making videos abt them

[@Ayzlxn]

@@raykeek8883 oh yeah 100%! I’ve been watching them for 3 years so I have seen so much abuse. It’s disgusting honestly!

[@Lulu_underscore]

They had to wipe with flipping rocks...

[@noi_drhdr4792]

this ACTUALLY happened??? What's the link?

[@Lulu_underscore]

@@noi_drhdr4792 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqe0l5ihppqnn8U This might be a video explaining but I am unsure

[@toddclarke3913]

Update: on 9/6/2023 Ruby Franke has been charged with 6 felony counts of child abuse and her non-adult children are in the care of Utah's Family and Child Services

[@anantrawat2311]

Tldr: she's fucked, but not for long since she's a white woman after all.

[@galaxyboi22]

She took away their phones for good so the kids wouldnt tell what was happening. Id never heard of these people until 2/3 days ago. She's evil and extremely narcissistic, and the husband seems to ignore what he knows is happening around him 😡

[@hunt1334]

the fact that their kids have the guts to express how the filming is harming their social lives/mental health and she STILL shuts them down ON CAMERA is so tone-deaf and hard to watch :/

[@atticusthegremlin3239]

hunter amos honestly, with how she treats them I’m surprised they haven’t acted out more just to get away

[@JackieLombardi]

Abusive parent thinking patterns 101: My version of reality is the only valid one because i'm the parent with the power. It sucks because those kids seem smart and aware enough to fully understand everything that it's doing to them

[@sadieperry]

this isn't just tone-deaf but literal child abuse

[@jerryb4705]

...Has anyone put any thought into the possibility of most these situations could be staged for the camera/Channel?

[@NaomiIsSoAwesome98]

the mental abuse is so horrific

[@rinibunny4576]

Why does she believe so strongly that they shouldn’t have technology when she is going around with a camera in their face so she can post their life online

[@codde5489]

She wants to control the narrative

[@n0xparad0x]

@@codde5489 exactly. she doesn’t want to risk anyone filming her secretly or smth. it’s so sick :(

[@jagomae.]

In case they film her !

[@earthalydelights]

So they can't call for help.

[@madis2715]

Probably so they dont do anything to jeopardize their youtube, aka income

[@MastermindElizabeth]

How scary is this with the arrest of Ruby Franke, and we know that it was at least Russell who was tied up and being starved. Praying This mother never gets out of jail.

[@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14]

They released the bodycam footage, one of the little girls (idk which) was cowering in a closet and it took the police over an hour to get her to come out cause she was so shit scared, straight up evil

[@mancyank564]

That reduced me to tears, especially when the girl very carefully reached for the pizza the 1st responders have her. There must have been times when food was taken away from her. It broke my heart to see her very thin arms. BTW, it took more than 4 hours to get her out of the closet.

[@oceancat0450]

J Aubrey ….. 3 YEARS EARLY on this craziness. Kudos to you, sir.

[@MyFriendlyPup]

The police knew the whole time it appears. Insane. They were forced to act.

[@erinoneil5533]

imagine having to go into school and explain to ur teacher that u couldn't turn ur homework in cause ur mom took it and told u u had to pay cash to get it back

[@tyrennosaur]

erin o'neil At least he has video proof. Probably the only good thing about this whole ordeal.

[@yukorai8323]

It’s like she’s setting her children for failure. So when they turn 18 they will have nothing. I hope when the eldest turns 18 they will save their siblings. If I lived close hell I would let them live with me if I was old and close enough too them. I’ve been emotionally abused myself, but never to this extent!

[@avarie6771]

she probably punishes her kids for bad grades too....

[@eliana0820]

Avarie Mendenall yep took away abbys phone for THE SUMMER for getting a D- in her grades. ONE BAD GRADE

[@sweetpeabee4983]

@@eliana0820 er...not to justify Ruby (🤮) or anything, but a D- is pretty bad. Like, I could see non-abusive parents taking away phone privileges for a while from a kid who got a D- in a class. Maybe all summer is excessive, but it's not coming out of nowhere.

[@mzm4344]

“You’re gonna lose your “privilege” to eat dinner” EXUSE ME? EATING IS NOT A “PRIVILEGE” ITS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT SMH.

[@bean9786]

Yeah that was disgusting, immediately scrolled down to find someone else put out by that too. The 'privilege' to eat dinner. UGh.

[@deborahaber996]

@M Z M @Bean I definitely agree with you. I remember I watched their video on back-to-school shopping video and I am DISGUSTED. And the Anasazi foundation? Even more disgusted. And being forced to be on camera? SMH.

[@deborahaber996]

@M Z M he should pin this comment.

[@AlwaysAPotterhead]

I used to get sent to bed without dinner A LOT. For stupid shit, too like ‘taking too long in the shower.’ They stopped when I told the school social worker offhandedly.

[@winterxmm3881]

M Z M yes and even if she does that..wouldn’t that be neglect?!?🤔🥴

[@dabermudas]

I did go to their school. They didn't have much friends and were very introverted, quiet, and eventually their mom pulled them out of school (6:34 )

[@icu3869]

my home and inheritance were stolen, because my overprotective mom left me technologically illiterate when cancer took her. By the time I figured out how online banking and smart phones worked, my brother had taken everything locked me out and convinced the lawyers I was on drugs and a compulsive liar. SHELTERING YOUR KIDS DEPRIVES THEM OF MORE THAN JUST “ fitting in”.

[@Sarah-tonin]

One of the worst parts is that these kids probably don't even know how many people support them because she keeps their phones from them

[@nkemako]

Yeah I wonder if their son was aware of the TikTok hashtag to save him from the family

[@shebeefingonmystroganoff]

classic gaslighting

[@sadmermaid]

Yikes. Feels like abuse somehow?

[@SeanReid86]

WTF?

[@OriginalnaPL]

@مكافحة شحاذين الايكات السريه i think you mean petition

[@zalaxii4032]

Ah yes, an example of a mother who will never see her children ever again once they move out

[@avawalsh6261]

She is kicking them out at 18 like when they are gone they will be GONE

[@maknchill7980]

I seriously hope these kids can find happiness once they move out and don't make the mistakes their parents made if they have kids of their own.

[@avawalsh6261]

@@maknchill7980 their is a clip of when rubybwas teenager at christmas she got a bunch of clothe and i think her dad said therr just clirhes dont be shallow

[@1WEareBUFO1]

"children from broken homes never had a fair chance in life" THIS - living like this is unfair to children. It doesn't matter how many parents you have, but as parents they should at least fucking love you or you should be taken away. People who film every single thing like they're being an open book usually have something to hide. They're not even really hiding it, they are abusing ALL their children.

[@sarahjo6807]

Truth.

[@easingthroughspace194]

Bro was 3 years ahead…

[@jennayates]

i’m now watching this after her arrest and the channel has been deleted. what a monster i am so glad her kids are finally free from her.

[@GratefulDave93]

The privilege of dinner amazes me. Tv is a privilege, games are a privilege. Dinner is a *necessity.*

[@thisusernamehas32character34]

PREACH

[@adrienemery4300]

CACTUSES!!

[@bluetooth4916]

100000%

[@mphomagingxa7310]

Dinner is not a necessity, people can survive on 2 meals a day.

[@GratefulDave93]

@@mphomagingxa7310 yeah lunch and dinner are generally those two meals. Trying to sleep with hunger pains is one of the worst things you can experience.

[@lemontoast3989]

She is definitely going to be one of those parents that get confused when their kid moves out at 18 and never speaks to them again

[@keyisme1356]

There's also a decent chance she will decide that her parenting job is "done" when her kids move out. And she won't call them either.

[@elenalizabeth]

My father was like this. I moved out at 16 and he was like “but why”. He did not like my very very long list of why I refused to stay living with him which basically boiled down to “you were so abusive that I look forward to your funeral so we can have a party”

[@queenk.csmith1571]

the two older ones did

[@ZLink0692]

@@queenk.csmith1571 did they make a video about their experiences?

[@queenk.csmith1571]

from what i seen no maybe they will come out about it maybe not but i can tell they are done with being on KZbin

[@julliedenny916]

Arrested - FINALLY! A "privledge" to eat dinner? It is your legal responsibility, let alone a moral one that should be inherent in any parent. Parents are legally required to support their minor children. When a child is born, their birth certificate names their parents. This marks the beginning of parental responsibility. Parents have to take care of their child's welfare and needs. Supporting your children includes providing food, clothing, shelter, basic care, education, and medical care. Failing to provide for your children can lead to neglect or abuse charges in most states. Parents must ensure their child's physical safety and emotional well-being.

[@user-uy5py5ih2t]

This video aged nicely for 8 Passengers channel...and by "nicely" I mean horribly for the children. So happy she is finally being held accountable.

[@lilywuenschel8131]

i hope these precious babies don’t ever turn to suicide, much love for them.

[@HlavacKristina]

This is what I’m so scared of

[@caity2581]

thats exactly what im scared of. this girl does all this stuff being controlling etc then wonder why her children are gaining issues

[@convexsphere392]

They probably will sadly

[@crowsoup9953]

I'm so worried. The oldest boy especially sounds extremely in need of help and support.

[@Ang3lixpawzzz]

i turned to suicide thoughts because of my dad. He would hit me and stuff. I wish they have a great life later on.. :(

[@skiedev]

She really doesn't like that son. She took away his phone, put him in a correction camp, and took his whole room away.

[@nervousbreakdown711]

Sky dev That camp does conversation therapy. Wouldn’t be surprised if she thought he was gay and that’s part of why she sent him there.

[@YummyUN1C0RN]

She doesn't like her other son either. She always complains that he's whiny and over emotional. I'm sure in a few years hell be treated as bad as his older brother...

[@Catglittercrafts]

She doesn't seem to like any of her kids

[@kyotaria]

I feel so bad for that poor guy...

[@photofreak56]

Okay maybe I'm reading to much into this because I've been doing a project on gay conversion camps for my human sexuality class but that camp she sent him to feels like one of those. I could be wrong but I'm getting that vibe.

[@ibapreppie]

3 years later. The foreshadowing is crazy with this video. Why isn't the father in jail???

[@sparky-5005]

That’s what I’m saying, there is no possible way he was not aware of the child abuse happening in his own household.

[@subtlebluntduality5997]

The day before Ruby was sentenced, Chad put out a TikTok that has since been deleted that seemed like he was really happy that his mom was in jail.

[@thecubemasterxiii4209]

mood

[@7Rondo]

This is why some kids don’t talk to their parents anymore once they have freedom.

[@WobblesandBean]

That's what my sister and I did.

[@leahmaier1272]

I'm hoping these kids will do the same thing.

[@katyameowmeow]

Leah Maier one of her kids is already 17 i think, i wonder how him possibly never contacting them again when he’s 18 would affect their channel and their audiences view of them

[@leahmaier1272]

@@katyameowmeow well, I do hope him and his siblings will make the right decision for themselves. And I do hope the family channel is either deleted by them or by KZbin so they can work on problems in their own lives without social media getting involved.

[@confusedaf1112]

It would be absolutely hilarious to see the 17 year old just leave and never speak to them again when he turns 18

[@straightsavage6696]

She’s truly a psychopath, who in the right mind says “we should’ve been in that crash” and then edits the video and thinks yup this is the one.

[@rayadawn3535]

No, don't associate a mental disorder with her. She's just an absolutely horrendous parent.

[@saintazepam]

@@rayadawn3535 she can both be a horrendous parent and have a personality disorder. They are not mutually exclusive and mental disorders don't excuse bad behavior

[@strudelh]

Even if she's not a psychopath or sociopathic, she could have some tendencies. We shouldn't diagnose someone and it may not be as extreme as that, but there's definitely something wrong with her lol. "Yup this is the one 😀"

[@zyco9188]

Socio*

[@voidofspaceandtime4684]

@@rayadawn3535 Mental disorders cause terrible people. A person can be terrible without them, and someone can power through a disorder to become a good person, but it is an offset by default. You are worse off at the beginning.

[@FollowerofDuck]

even when i was a senior in high school my mom would still help me pack my lunches if i like woke up late or smthng bc she didnt want me going hungry but also didnt want me missing my bus the fact that this woman refused to do that for her five year old daughter is very disturbing and just proves that she absolutely does not care

[@CToast]

I was about 10 when it became my job to pack my lunch; and one day I forgot...and didn't get lunch. It definitely taught me to make time for the important stuff, and I'm sure if I repeatedly failed to make a lunch for myself my parents would have stepped in. I wasn't 5. That's the thing that blows my mind. I was totally capable of making a ham sandwich at 10. Not at 5.

[@razzledazzle5933]

I love that your mom did that for you. It sends the message that this is your responsibility, but sometimes we need help, and that's ok!❤

[@deannajan25]

I kept a number of hot lunches paid for on their accounts so if they forgot their lunch they could just use a hot lunch ticket.

[@perspgold8945]

when a youtube commentator cares more about your kids than you

[@karlaflow]

The fact that Ruby gets nervous when Chad mentions the fact he’s been sleeping on a bean bag for 7 months SHOWS that she KNOWS what she did was wrong. She’s willfully putting these kids trough hell.

[@nickreynolds9745]

Shes evil

[@whatthehellisthis]

i’m surprised that she didn’t edit it out

[@lupinisthinking]

Ris CPS already visited. Found nothing wrong. Ruby did an article in business insider addressing the claims, it’s awful.

[@karlaflow]

Lupin I don’t wanna be that guy but this is most definitely a privilege issue, of course the incompetent CPS agents wouldn’t find anything wrong once they enter her million dollar house right? Awful, truly awful.

[@lupinisthinking]

officialkarlaflow ikr, I totally agree. The damage control they tried wasn’t very good 😂

[@pinkcharpie]

it just hit me that the reason she isn’t letting her kids, especially the teenagers, have phones, is because that way she can censor what they say and see. they can’t tell everyone about the abuse they are dealing with, if they have no access to the internet. and they can’t speak out against it because they aren’t given access to people saying how wrong and abusive it is

[@Auderox]

well fuck that hit me like a brick

[@davidelliott9345]

I'm not sure any of her kids are ready to publish a abuse video or speak up since the oldest is 15 but I 100% agree that shes not allowing them to see their own videos and how embarrassing thumbnails, titles or segments in the video are

[@doccywoccy7118]

It's all about control and not exposing the parents for what they are. It's honestly sickening. I can't begin to imagine how trapped these children must feel

[@noot6230]

All it’s gonna do honestly is just cause her kids to resent her and their dad And hate them. I bet you with almost complete certainty that once they leave the house they’ll never come back and they’ll have so much trauma from them. I have trauma from my mother and she didn’t do half the shit she does. She’s horrible

[@xXMonstarX]

I think its also about isolation. Shes probably using the comments left on her videos to reaffirm to her kids that her way of parenting is good and supported. There's no way to tell the kids that her behaviour is not normal and atrocious and many more do not support her way of "parenting".

[@Ganja_Guru217]

We 100% need a part 2 so much more has come out!

[@PoM-MoM]

WOW. 3 Y E A R S AGO. So the kids had ANOTHER 3 years of torture? Before LE did anything!!!

[@xSoSurreal]

She really responded to the teacher and said she’s responsible for making her own food and no one should give her anything...? As an educator I would’ve reported that situation so fast.

[@cristakampert8740]

Yeah, let's just hope that the teacher noticed that and makes sure to give that poor girl some extra emotional support

[@533134]

They live in a small town and were attending a private school at the time.

[@xSoSurreal]

Jessica B Either way a child should not be deprived a meal.

[@rooksclown316]

I hope the teacher still gave that child food

[@curleyqreviews9793]

I hope they charged her for a lunchroom meal. No way would any school let a kid go hungry

[@superstarnayeon2794]

the mom is like: my sons are bonding, i must threaten to starve them

[@deannahenry8925]

Pay for there homework that they need for half there grade

[@cibinomin6540]

@@deannahenry8925 half there grade hm? did you visit school by any chance?

[@deannahenry8925]

@@cibinomin6540 I go school in the UK its nothing like the US my homework dosent count for my grade my actual work does. So u tell me?

[@deannahenry8925]

My actual exam does

[@snake6206]

Deanna Henry oh yeah it’s completely different in the US

[@ILoveGreysonChance97]

Chad-My bedroom got taken away for seven months. Ruby-No remorse for what she did to her son. 🤨🙄😒😑😡

[@BodyAndSol96]

This woman and her dolt of a husband are absolutely disgusting people. She is a true narcissistic sadist whose face lights up when she talks about the suffering of her own children. Yes I'm here after she was arrested, which clearly happened way too late but still better than never. I wish her decades in prison and for all her children to heal from the immense trauma their own parents have caused them. The husband needs to be brought to justice as well because he's also very responsible for what happened to their children.

[@pretentiousteatime]

"You have no idea what real abuse is" sounds exactly like something abusive parents would say

[@pretentiousteatime]

@@izzfizz9691 I'm so sorry that happened to you. There's no excuse ever for parents to treat children like that it's absolutely disgusting.

[@Idkdude50]

I guess coming from some hardcore abuse every day, this doesn't SEEM like abuse, but that's cause my parents used the same lines on me starting 3 years old, so frankly I have no clue what a normal family is like anyway! Lol

[@curseyehamewho]

I've heard this from my family. You're exactly right.

[@aquariumapple9616]

I swear when I say that to my mom I think her mind automatically goes to physical abuse when I clearly mean emotional

[@fsmprophet8319]

Mine said that u hit hammer on the nail

[@o4_]

Ruby: I don't want my children to become snowflakes! Also Ruby: (completely unable to take any criticism at all)

[@crimply]

“i dont want my kids to become snowflakes!” then raise them, you witch! it seems like they’re raising themselves at the moment?!!

[@floating_couch]

She definitely had a more comfortable life than her children, that's why

[@piagebot2943]

Trinity107 - probably cuz a camera wasnt shoved in her face 24/7

[@DMac1988]

KZbin needs to yeetus deletus their channel

[@littleoreo7717]

Hypocrisy 100

[@kateemma22]

Here in 2024 when the footage of her mistreating the two youngest is just a taste of what's to come.

[@eurekamreum5458]

So glad this monster won't be smiling anymore in prison

[@GreatGooglieWooglie]

How they're only experiencing action now is MINDBOGGLING

[@angelbardot_67]

I can’t believe she thinks eating dinner is a PRIVILEGE. This is disgusting

[@katherinebordier6195]

or having.a bed.

[@angelbardot_67]

exactly!

[@LilStoner771]

I can remember my parents /threatening/ it but never, ever going through. Hell, three hours later they'd make all us kids sit down and have a family dinner. The worst I ever got was being told if I kept doing xyz next time they'd "send you to the nuns". Rinse and repeat

[@sarahd1250]

“If you keep playing and mutually enjoying time with your sibling you’re not going to be allowed to eat!!” Like wtf?!?!??

[@angelbardot_67]

I know!! It’s so messed up 😤😤😤

[@Green-mp6ho]

kids at school will bully you for the type of shoes you wear, let alone your mom posting about you SHAVING and your first PERIOD

[@LunaticTheCat]

I hate these parents soooo much. Their children are going to have mental problems for the rest of their lives because of their sociopath parents.

[@presleypennartz6269]

RIGHT

[@anastasialoveless677]

My mom posted me when i was 4-5 shirtless like MAAM

[@kishoiii]

God I already got bulied as a kid this would make it worse

[@forpetessake3532]

first bra too

[@StayAtHomeMeme]

There’s a pretty not so fine line between letting your kids have experiences to let them develop “grit” and beating them down and crushing their spirit. If my kid forgets his lunch, i bring it to school because everyone forgets things. It’s not a moral failing. If they do something stupid like use their lunchbox to hit another kid or something and all their food fell on the floor and they lose some food and they get hungry for a few hours, it’s a bit different. Ruby went way too far.

[@candicefrost4561]

My mom would bring it but charge a fee of $1. That’s teaching responsibility. Not insisting a child not be fed.

[@karlihealey]

Wow, posted three years ago. Thank you for helping bring this to light.

[@mizzbelle97]

All I kept thinking about was that young homeless mother who had her daughter taken away from her for leaving her in the car while she was applying for a job. Or the mother that was sentenced to YEARS in prison for lying about her address so her kids could go to a safer school. I wonder what the difference is...........

[@curse4384]

Btw just so u kno, the woman that got arrested for moving her kids, I believe also includes a drug charge

[@brgan557]

Money

[@bonniea8189]

@@brgan557 Race. It's race.

[@user-jn1ts4wl1c]

Leaving your kid in a car is potentially life-threatening so I dont get why you bring up an individual with shitty parental skill let alone a drug charge lmao.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

tandra Akther I don’t see what else that mother could’ve done considering she was homeless??? But ok

[@Rose-hh7mk]

So many abusive parents talk about how "kids need to be taught to be resilient". That's not resilience you see in your child, that's trauma.

[@mariefalzoine4873]

Kids are by nature pretty resilient so this doesn't make sense. You really want resilient children? Nuture them, when they fail let them know its ok so long as they get back up, introduce new activities often.

[@mariefalzoine4873]

cinematic nerd I was agreeing with her and adding my thoughts on this train wreck of a family soooo.... step off.

[@deadtotheworld00]

Yea I like to say you get resilient children when you teach them healthy coping and problem solving techniques

[@itslapisnotbob8368]

your kids dont need to be strong. they're kids. the point of providing for them is that they arent strong

[@user-jj9re7pw6x]

@@itslapisnotbob8368 Mhm, kids aren't strong and kids SHOULDN'T be strong, they just have to enjoy their childhood and be as much as possible

[@genxmeh]

Three years later. She is finally in jail.

[@kelkabot]

My takeaway: if you're white and blonde and you have nice teeth and an expensive house, the authorities really drag their heels on checking up on allegations of abuse.

[@schewitt1977]

That's really sad because apparently the family and people that lived near them alerted the authorities for a number of years.

[@Diggidydave13]

And a woman... that probably played a part in the delays... there can be a strong bias to automatically assume women are good parents, hence why most mothers automatically get custody in divorces.

[@lexismore]

Apparently the authorities did visit multiple times. If they see no evidence of severe harm or neglect during a visit, there's not a lot for them to do.

[@thilsiktonix]

yep 😬😬

[@gemh89]

​@Diggidydave13 it's a bit more complicated than that. The father was complicit in this, as per this video. The family courts award custody to mothers, yes out of the assumption that they are better care givers (and thats not just the courts, society, too, hence all of this "women should be home makers" trad attitudes- and *that* attitude most often comes from men themselves.) But mainly that is due to the fact that if they ask the kids if they want to live with mum or dad, they choose mum 9 times out of ten. Interestingly, Female judges are shown to be harder on women, in all courts but are particularly harder on them and fairer in family courts, presumably because the fluttering eyelashes that work on old dude judges doesn't fly.

[@lovelymichelle3324]

“Hopefully no one gives her food.” WHAT THE WHY WOULD SHE SAY THAT

[@changbennie]

I KNOW RIGHT

[@brydienorris9265]

@@DomoMaximumMomo yeah she was

[@ashefauxe3369]

She assumes because the food is in the fridge that its "providing" for the child, like yeah the food is there but shes a smoll bean, as if she's gonna be able to do all that by her clutzy 5 year old self....

[@katieshimick9684]

Ashe Fauxe 5 years? you still are her parent and it’s not teaching responsibility it’s abuse,

[@Safa-vy8xy]

My sister has a five year old. She’d probably pack the same lunch my 2 year old would. Gummy bears

[@furryshit3663]

If she’s like this on camera , imagine how she is off camera.

[@sage-xr3gz]

you are so right. the kids probably go through so much more than what's visible to us online.

[@emmaot]

in one of their videos she said "i did the discipline off camera", prob hit them

[@LunaticTheCat]

I don't want to imagine that😭

[@thiccredgyal3404]

She's probably physically abusive too

[@lovefiles.]

Ok-I’m sorry but I was the 1k like 😔😔

[@emma_nutella58]

Coming back to this after the mum got arrested, after everything she’s done, it feels like justice is finally being served to these children that have been mistreated for the public to see for years

[@JiaPia3]

I was watching the video thinking it was made three hours ago, and I saw it was made 3 years ago. Crazy how it still really applies, and now that monster who calls herself a mother is in jail where she belongs.

[@samantha7317]

no phones at the table but I’ll film my family’s personal conversations and upload them for 2 million people to see!

[@audreylillycrop4548]

**logic**

[@DamirMaatar]

If they have phone at the table, they wont talk, not good for the video

[@lilyh.3557]

ur gonna be such a good mom 🥰🥰

[@joeshmo4784]

Exactly my thoughts 🤔weird

[@ainsleelambert947]

**every yt family channels high quality logic**

[@jates513.productions]

dont mind me, just revisiting this vid after recent events

[@faeriedust1219]

the fact this was posted 3 years ago and only now is something truly happening

[@allew3238]

are you telling me she TOOK his homework that was worth HALF OF HIS DAMN GRADE, THEN BLAMED HIM FOR FAILING A SUBJECT!?

[@chiakinanami770]

I can’t with this woman... someone take the kids away from her

[@graciegriffiths8936]

I agree what she did was wrong but the whole story wasn't told in that part of the video. That stuff that was in the bag were things that were left around the house and in the car after she repeatedly told them to clean it up. I think making them pay for it is wrong and she shouldn't have taken it I just wanted to tell you!

[@britt6687]

@@graciegriffiths8936 taking toys laying around is one thing, taking homework is another. She is purposefully contributing to her least favorite child’s failure.

[@graciegriffiths8936]

@@britt6687 I agree

[@dumbfrickinidiot8362]

What.The.Fuck

[@lindseylee5302]

It made me sick to my stomach when the little girl thought she had to try on the bras on camera. And then when she found out she didn’t have to she wrapped her sweater and arms around herself like she was trying to protect herself. She genuinely assumed that her mother wanted to film her doing something like that, which is a pretty big statement of how these children are suffering.

[@ryanweeks6118]

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STORE no less. How was that not a sign to her that maybe she’s gone a bit too far? Oh wait, because she doesn’t care

[@ayanonight7700]

Yeah, it's so disgusting how she wears her makeup and gets her hair done and smiles next to her children at ther most vulnerable looks. She only gives them punishment but never rewards so to me she is worse than an officer at the army. I feel so much with these kids because I'm from a strict household too and turned my back to my family since I got fourteen.♥♥♥

[@TheTruthPTT]

Ik that was so sad but the sick mother just laughed it off like that is normal. I had the exact same thought that truly broke my heart

[@thebangmaster9273]

Right? And she was so embarrassed and every time they asked to not be filmed the parents ignored them and acted like they didn’t hear them

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

7:44 timestamp - and I agree. It's so disturbing and I'll never forget it.

[@katblackwell]

This video is from 2020... Crazy how much time it took for this monster to finally get arrested for her actions.

[@iantempleton313]

Anytime I see a family documenting their life on social media, I immediately see red flags. It’s exploitation at its finest.

[@estrep6694]

As a social worker who primarily works with kids, this is upsetting.

[@samaelbravo3692]

Am I the only one that feels like these videos are being used by a certain group for extremely disgusting and illegal purposes but the parents are appeasing to that.

[@leilaschafernak-perez8814]

thank you for being a social worker

[@BlondeHobbit88]

As a social worker as well, this woman truly has no understanding of human development if she thinks a 5 year old will should be able to do something like pack her lunch own lunch.

[@shimmershine944]

As a professional, is there anything you feel we could do? Something constructive just to help these kids. Seeing this has my blood fucking boiling and I want to do something that will actually help these kids be in a happier and healthier situation but I have no idea what

[@kelseyhorton8514]

Also a social worker, and Ruby knows absolutely nothing about child hood development.

[@izzyb.5999]

Her child fell into a gutter and instead of putting down the camera to help the child up as fast as possible she tried to use a single arm to help the kid up so she can keep filming the whole thing...

[@ThatGirlJD]

A normal person would have DROPPED the camera and never uploaded or told the world that happened. We also wouldn't know the same toddler child broke a door. Who would tell the world you neglected your child so badly they sat in a soiled diaper all day. Long enough for you to smell them before you saw them. Long enough that combing her hair after her bath was a trear. You're first instinct was to buy her a new dress, she went to the store before gave her daughter a bath. Who thinks bathing their toddler child is giving her a privilege?

[@marzipanmango]

@@ThatGirlJD I know right? If I saw a kid, any kid, in that situation I'd drop anything I was holding to help them.

[@ladymopar2024]

Wow she's something gawd

[@WyattRyeSway]

I’m surprised she even helped the kid up, tbh.

[@SaiyanGamer95]

Sounds like Onision... But his daughter fell from a second story window and cracked her skull on the concrete.

[@YouTubeThunderr]

This is incredible how this was caught 3 years ago or more and is just now being followed through on. Terrible job by authorities to not investigate this matter further than they did in the past, but I am happy Ruby is under arrest.

[@deannajan25]

Shari reported her mom to authorities after she was out of the house. Nothing came of it.

[@KalHimself]

I heard of the arrest and this video immediately popped back into my head. No one is surprised.

[@eddiemurfitt9660]

the kids aren’t allowed technology but their entire lives are broadcast from HER social media.....dawg

[@sethmishne]

She doesn't like people that don't agree with her. I posted some comments saying that I don't agree with her parenting and that you forced the girls to let you pick out the dresses or they would lose basic privileges. After I posted that comments I think that caused ruby and shari to block me on Instagram. I guess they don't want me reporting the bad things they do to other people.

[@mahzabinnn]

she wants so censor them. they probably don’t have any idea how many people see and hate their mother

[@steponmemothman]

I'll bet part of why they have no tech is so the kids can't reveal how horrible they are behind camera and tank their reputation

[@bleb3622]

Straight up narcissist

[@DallasChick79]

Exactly! The hypocrisy is sickening.🤮

[@mountaindew9]

it's so creepy and unsettling to me that she never looks directly in her kids' eyes, she's always looking at the camera or off to the side.

[@leahmaier1272]

I actually never thought of that before. Good point.

[@desireemackenzie1651]

Yeah

[@luvvnatz]

Its manipulation as someone who has studied it for a few years now, if people dont look you in the eye they are most likely nervous or trying to hide something. Her body language is hinting that she is trying her best to stop bieng anxious, she may also be a tiny bit guilty. But she is a heartless monster so dont expect that.

[@Blackgreywhite1317]

@@luvvnatz I don’t think she’s heartless if she feels guilt. A true heartless manipulator would probably look at their victims in the eye while speaking to establish dominance (in my opinion, ig it’s similar to the still face paradigm, there’s a difference between normal eye contact and oppressive)

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@Blackgreywhite1317 well she may not be heartless in the way that you think heartless means but that makes it worse because she knows it’s wrong to abuse but yet she still does it. she’s “heartless” for this reason

[@shahrzadmassiha7253]

Who's coming back to this video after hearing about Ruby's arrest?

[@iisabored7307]

celebrating that she got arrested, I hope those kids have a safe future

[@Hannah-kl9wk]

i remember people who in high school STILL had their parents pack their lunch, this woman wouldn't do it for a kindergartener

[@misteamist7886]

yeah.

[@saigeferko6035]

I'm in COLLEGE and my mom still packs lunch for me on the days she gets up before me because it's something she likes doing. It's a loving gesture, this mom is just straight up abusive

[@whatthehellisthis]

this was the case with me and many other people. idk what these people are smoking.

[@GhostySweep]

As a freshman I can confirm I don't pack my own lunch. If Mom forgets she at least FUCKING comes to the school and gives me a sandwich or some shit.

[@nono-fb8tr]

Occasionally, as a 22 year old, if work gets busy my mom still will help me get a lunch together so I can get out the door faster in the morning. She only has one less child than Ruby. She does this because she cares about my success and mental wellbeing. Even now that I'm an adult. As a little kid in school I would forget my lunch loads of times and she always brought it for me, because she cared about my physical wellbeing as an 8 year old. Some moms can't prepare lunches because of a workload, or can't bring a forgotten lunch to a school because they have to work. This does not apply to Ruby. She has the resources to give her kids a quality upbringing, and she chooses not to.

[@BBRadford]

Does anyone else notice how the mom always refers to everything as hers? “My house”, “my door”, “my bathroom” - etc. Most moms would just say “our”. So strange and outputting to me. All about her I guess.

[@anaphylacticpete5788]

Yes, I too noticed how she speaks and acts like a belligerent 5 year old. The cookie stomach ache clip really drove that home.

[@photofreak56]

My mom would call it hers and dad's bedroom but everything else was ours as a family minus a candy bar here and there that she got for her self once a month

[@MS-vs9qx]

Its a common thing with her family too. They all say "MY". Their parents did a number on them too. Awful cycle of shitty parenting going on there

[@speedwagon1824]

She probably makes them pay to use them off camera to 'teach' 'responsibility'

[@muhammadberlian2934]

This is what happens when parents don't read Das Kapital smh

[@jeremywall4913]

I can't believe you made this three years ago! And now look, it's like u knew this was coming! I just started seeing her videos and happened to see the one where she sent her son away, and her lack of emotions.... My heart just breaks for these kids.... Like they will need therapy for the rest of their lives!!!💔

[@bernieblack8819]

This video aged like wine

[@TrulyNemo]

It's so weird that she smiles when talking about her kids getting punished, laughs when her son talks about crying because he's scared. Almost seems like she's enjoying it.

[@jacksbox317]

She definitely is, you can see it in her eyes. She doesn't care about her children unless they can get views

[@ThatOrphan]

that's because she does enjoy it, she realized that the only power she will ever have is over her children so she abuses it every chance she gets

[@TrulyNemo]

Agreed. Sad, but true.

[@ShortForMitchel]

@I'm somebody I think maybe they were responding to CarpConsumer?

[@laurieg673]

She gets off on their pain. She's narcissistic and has zero empathy.

[@missb3351]

i cannot believe she said ON CAMERA that she hopes no one gives her kindergartner lunch

[@caleighkennedy9689]

Miss B right! Might as well have said “I hope no one is kind/shows love to her”

[@babylonianbabe409]

i laughed out loud

[@lonewolfkiller1015]

@@caleighkennedy9689 well that would just be complimenting her

[@ashtonelder6781]

I remember forgetting my lunch when i was in Year R (i was 5). both my parents work 9-5 jobs and they work a 40 minute drive away but the still gave me some lunch because that is human decency.

[@serenityslife4910]

Yeah, that’s weird. I would be worried that they were hungry...

[@Who-Dunnit]

nothing brings her joy like her kid's pain. You never see her grinning so wide or laughing so loud until they're distraught.

[@merykhan97]

Came back here 3 years later ...

[@mushroomc0re]

Part of the bedroom issue is that in abusive households a child's bedroom is their only safe space, their only reprise from the abuse, and taking that away from a childhood can really fuck them up

[@beccablack6807]

As someone who came from an abusive home you are so right about that fact.

[@MandyMeowington5]

agreed 100% I grew up in an abusive environment and I wasn’t allowed to shut my door, and my grandparents would just walk in without knocking or anything-including while I was getting fucking dressed!! and then they would act like it’s my fault that they did that like how I dare I get dressed in my own room with the door shut

[@sunnysteph_o]

I was a foster kid and my amazing foster parents NEVER went into my room without my permission, even just to clean or see me. They were taught to respect privacy and I don’t know what I would have done if I still had people busting into my room like before. Privacy is so important.

[@OriginalnaPL]

I know what that feels like. My only safe space became the bathroom and toilet since it's the only places i the house with locks

[@beansforlief5703]

Exactly, my room has no door and my mom walks in whenever she wants. Once she walked in at 2 am, which scared me so bad.

[@warriorcats1118]

Eating dinner isn’t a “privilege” it’s a basic right. Even poor families make sure their kids have dinner.

[@sophiaquintana256]

I know thats so sad 😢😭

[@yoyoyolis]

Whenever money was tight my mom would still give us breakfast, lunch and dinner. She didn’t want us to go what she went through

[@dmeditz5771]

My dad told me that money was always tight when growing up but his parents always cared about him and his siblings and when money was tight they still would get feed breakfast lunch and dinner and would be sent to school. Theese kids should get fed at least three times a day as a right

[@akrodr6]

Ik she’s practically starving her children

[@grape123]

Even my mom who was abusive in her own ways made sure we got our McDonald’s or Burger King every night (she was a single mom and we were extremely low income)

[@yesman8074]

This aged like fine wine

[@jchristensen694]

Who is here in light of her recent arrest?!?