The Divorce Guru, and the Famous Bar Girl Funeral Scam

In which Steve Rosse tells stories about using Thailand to heal the wounds of divorce and stories about the Famous Bar Girl Funeral Scam.
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[@bchrismonks8760]

Steve, you’re a good man. It was thoughtful to you to listen to that gentleman and show him some kindness. You don’t have to have a silver bullet to fix anything. You gave a damn and that probably meant the world to him.

[@JM-kn1rr]

Most often the best advice and comfort to someone like Bob is just being an attentive set of ears and the kind and sympathetic heart you have Steve. People don't always need words of wisdom which are most often too hard to supply. Old quote: "Be warry of giving advice, wise men don't need it and fools won't heed it."

[@williamhartz8707]

Steve, as we get older ( mature?), each of us have a unique portfolio of wisdom. I think Bob came to the right person who could give some perspective to his challenging situation. The cost of his round trip ticket was probably was well spent ( better than going to a marriage counselor). Thanks for welcoming Bob into your home and being a good human being.🙏

[@Sikofu]

So so on spot. God bless you too.

[@bchrismonks8760]

Well said

[@Roland_Rohrle]

It was good that you lent an ear to your unexpected visitor and extended your kind offer to him. Who knows, once his mess is sorted out, he might find his way back to Thailand to his own "peace" of paradise. Love ya Steve. All the best Roland

[@bodhranclive3707]

Steve you’d be surprised how much you give us without knowing it man, you give us working lads hope that there is a chance of a chilled quiet peaceful retirement in the future for those of us that have that dream. Love your videos they give me hope, Keep up the good work mate.

[@Sikofu]

Steve you already saved this guy life once. Relax, you have done your part. I bet you Bob was and is so grateful to you that you can’t imagine it…my digital good soul and friend. I Enjoy your stories thank you. And God bless you too. Hope better for Bob.

[@Kult19]

"I'm just a guy who went through what you are going through..." Sometimes that's enough. More than enough.

[@southpaw1755]

Bob was a desperate man who came to you for something that he found because he went back to face his demons.

[@HansCSchellenberg]

Sad to hear about Bob. Phuket Thailand was my salvation after a really shitty year in 2019, after my year from hell, I spent the month of December 2019 in Phuket. Transformed my life. I wish Bob had stayed a week or two, he might have stayed forever.

[@Roland_Rohrle]

Perhaps he might return once everything is sorted 🙏🤞

[@theglobalvagabond3074]

I buried my dad recently. Not a single "so called friend of his showed up." Granted it was across the country, but not a soul even inquired as to what happened to him. Not one person. He was buried at a beautiful national cemetery as a veteran. What a wake up call. When you're gone you are a memory. Period.

[@kellgiggs6593]

Hi Steve, fair play, not your usual content but honest and meaningful as always. Shit happens to us all but it's our shit, we can only share our experiences. I hope Bob finds his inner peace.

[@steveaustin1984]

Frightening. You have far more compassion and faith in humanity than most. Stay safe.

[@joseslatter9276]

“To see a world in a grain of sand And a heaven in a wild flower Hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour”

[@steverosse]

Illuminate the macro by describing the micro. The aim, or it should be, of all creative nonfiction.

[@robertwilson491]

I’m sure Bob appreciated the smoking monk as much as we did. Thank you for being so kind which is all anybody can ask for.

[@luceinbattaglia9425]

Very touching story. I wish all the best to Bob hoping he will stay hard, fight and win is battle. I’ll pray for him.🍀🙏💚

[@Bowmouth]

Bob's been on and off my mind since that day he walked into Boonthong's as well Steve. It was a bit of a surreal experience meeting the guy and hearing his story. I don't think think the brief time Bob spend in Thailand was "lost" time. Bob got to meet Steve who took him in as long lost friend and Bob got to spend some time at Boonthong's and Turtle Beach. That's quite amazing and I'm sure that Bob will often think of you and Boonthong's and Turtle Beach Steve. 🙏🧡😊

[@steverosse]

Hey, Dude! I forgot you have a channel.

[@Bowmouth]

I was there dude!

[@steverosse]

@@consulthai Yeah. Hans was in the room when Bob showed up. Then he was at my house the day I came back from Phuket because he wanted to hear what happened. Tom, take your meds.

[@jgb4unme1]

I don't have the experience of going through a divorce, but being this full time caregiver to my mom has put me through the proverbial ringer and I can appreciate what it is to have a person just listen and not judge. You're a good egg, sir. And the turtle is coming along!

[@daviddenham1511]

You’re not the divorce guru Steve, but you provide solace and hope to your viewers due to your nature…..that is a mark of your character and that is very admirable. Why do you think people watch your channel?….If you can better just one lonely depressed persons life by your insights and humour, then that in itself is worthy……We all have our crosses to bear blah blah……keep it up, cuzz.

[@garymarkham4167]

Hi Steve...Thankyou for your wise and honest words.....Bobs on a journey like all of us...hope he can find something as he seems to have lost much.......Some years ago I flew to Bangkok to meet my Thai girl....I waited at the airport but she didnt show and wouldnt pick up on her mobile but she sent me a text saying her Granny had died and she had gone back to the north of Thailand.....So I deceided to fly to Phuket and maybe catch up with here......But I got an email asking me for a $1000 AUD so they could do the funeral and the father would give me a block of land!!! Well I didnt believe it and replied I didnt have money on me.....Her reply was to call me every vile word you could think of!!! I found out through a friend she was hiding in a Patong massage shop 8 months pregnant to some Norweigan guy......She was boasting how she was going to rip me off to her friends!! Good riddance to her.

[@steverosse]

Classic.

[@JohnWilson-gj7wj]

Thanks once again Steve for sharing the ups and downs of your daily life in Turtle Beach. You did what you could for Bob and at least you were kind enough to give him some of your time. I love the look of the meditation centre. It looks so peaceful and calming. I am sure all this tranquility will be doing wonders for your wellbeing. I do hope so.

[@peterblakeney1370]

Hi Steve, your story resonated with me as I’m sure it did for many of us who have been through similar circumstances. I’m one of the lucky ones I think because while I lost all material assets, I didn’t lose my daughter and we have a strong relationship to this day. While it’s good to have a listening ear, nobody else can give us the answers to moving on. It wasn’t until I took a good look at myself and realised that I didn’t like the person I had become that I was able to make the necessary changes to find peace. Broke but happy🙏

[@fhorst02]

At the start of the video I half expected Steve to take a walk on the water... Nothing religious.. And I probably would not be surprised to find he is wearing a set of floating shoes😂😂 In other words , I expect just about anything 🎉😅 Thanks for your kindness towards Bob. Wherever he is now sincerely hope he is doing good. Deforce 😢.. Done that, been there. And survived.

[@steverosse]

I could do it, but I'm the kind of guru who shows off.

[@david-reason]

Dear Steve, My buffalo has Covid and is too sick to plough the rice paddi. Thanks for your enjoyable wisdom.

[@steverosse]

"Paddy," with a "y." You're welcome.

[@bwquik1]

What a joy you have brought to my life. your happiness is a beacon to myself and im sure countless others,

[@steverosse]

Well, I'm glad, but don't set the bar too high. I'm just an old guy spending his pension on a beach.

[@peterrhodes1275]

Fabulous addition to your oeuvre my friend. Rock On! Best regards, as ever 🙂

[@lescline2246]

Another great video, you are lucky to be so creative. Gives you an outlet that's for sure, love your videos, man.

[@naresrit]

Thanks for sharing Steve.

[@steverosse]

Thanks for watching.

[@Ian4444four]

Thanks Steve. Profound vlog that will resonate with many

[@gavins-cool]

Lovely chat. I am glad you have found your happy place. May it long continue.

[@davidscales6835]

Thank you Steve for your kind and sincere words. From one who went through a very difficult divorce and custody battle. After divorce spent 20+ years in Bangkok and recently returned to the US and don’t recognize it. Fully understand your affection for Siam. You are doing good things through your words. Carry on.

[@IrishPhotoArchive1952]

Bob! If you are reading this. We understand that you must be in a dark place but just love your children and endure the hell and look forward to brighter days.

[@steverosse]

Amen.

[@daviddenham1511]

That Turtle clip at the end!….listening to the tune , thought Dean Martin or Tony Curtis was gonna show up!….brilliant

[@pepelemoko01]

Divorce, death of a loved one , job loss , health scares, the hard resets in life.

[@HansCSchellenberg]

This.

[@pepelemoko01]

@@consulthai A cell door being shut behind you, the impact then the noise in a serious car accident.

[@DaveTheDasher77]

Great stuff Steve, I really enjoy your channel and content. Cheers

[@beerdrinker6452]

I have eaten my share of wedding cake. I have felt bad and felt good about divorce. No time machine in my garage. If there was I would be afraid to climb inside.

[@jjjjjjjjooolllllllllll8395]

Great video, thank you for sharing

[@simmonds3930]

I love this channel!

[@anthonyorme]

That device you have is fantastic. I have one for filming things using my mobile phone and it stabilises the filming.

[@grahambkk]

Good video Steve, and no doubt Bob just needed confirmation that there is reason to hope, and he just needed to see it, and talk to you to prove it to himself. You showed him friendship and compassion when he was starving for both. Maybe one day he will turn up on your door again with a new outlook and a smile and ready to move on, lets hope so! Thanks for the views around that amazing meditation center. I started again in Thailand over 20 years ago and can absolutely agree with your outlook on what you can make of life here if you are careful and have the right attitude.

[@peromalmstrom7668]

This is a story of individual responsibility. Divorce, pain, anger, bitterness, loathing blame are emotional reactions. Emotional reactions are directly related to what is known in Psychiatry as a 'dislocation of expectation'. Any man marrying that believe's it's for life, is dislocated from facts and reality, certainly for the many. Anyone, male or female who believes one or the other will be 100% faithful is dislocated, anyone that believes there is never a financial cost to marriage is dislocated, anyone believing there is not an emotional cost to marriage is dislocated. Add children into the marriage and then add divorce, it is of course heart breaking for all parties involved, but not to expect it, is a dislocation from the reality of likelihood. USA divorce rate is 3.2 per 1000 of population (45% of population), in the UK it is 1.6 per 1000 of population (42% of population) and in Thailand is 1.4 per 1k (39% of population). All statistics are questionable, but show a very simple obvious question, 'why are people dislocated from the fact it is highly likely they will divorce? Life is simple if you follow the 7x P's, from the age of 18 years old - Prior Planning & Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance. Behind the rhetoric, it is a simple message, prepare the physical as well as the mental, for the reality ahead, as it 'stops' a dislocation of expectation and saves you millions of minutes, thousands of hours and hundreds of days worrying about a highly likely occurrence and due to the high possibility, you have planning in-place, with resources and mental strength to deal with the divorce and move-on. If you can't plan ahead, simple, don't get married, because as individuals, we are responsible for outcomes, regardless of liking this fact or not. Only once you accept individual responsibility can you plan ahead or if not planned, at least by accepting it now (Better late than never), you can move on in life. Life is for living, go explore and enjoy, as not to do so, is a dislocation of expectation all of itself.

[@RonMatsko]

Saw your video on Thairish last year, glad your not dead yet!! I was just at turtle beach a few weeks ago, if I’d known I’d say hello but will buy ya. A beer next time I’m there! (I ride big bike all over Thailand) Retired early :)

[@steverosse]

Thanks!

[@lornajacksonhypnotherapist]

Wise advice Steve.. you did all you could to help him...its up to him to heal.. love your vids.. thanks for sharing.. love the meditation place & fish pond..❤🙏

[@richardbargh9998]

Hi steve. I found your channel a couple of weeks ago and im enjoying your vlogs, some more some less. Thanks for the effort you put into this. Divorce, we've all been there. But the fish are interesting. I lived for several years up in the deep north of Thailand and was lucky to have my own small lake like the one in this video. So i stocked the lake and would catch and eat the fish. Then time passed and i decided not to eat my fish, and to catch and release. Some more time passed and i stopped catching the fish and just fed them as a peaceful meditation. At first the fish were quite shy, but over time they got used to me and would float around the surface. When my neighbour who still occasionally fished my lake would come and sit with me all the fish would disappear. Some of my best friends were fish those days

[@steverosse]

Great story. Thanks for sharing. I love that they avoid the occasional fisherman, but not you. So much for the myth that fish only have three seconds of memory.

[@richardbargh9998]

@@steverosse That's maybe so. When you study the plar shon , the snake head fish which infest many of the lakes up there you can't help but to be impressed

[@shuttlemanjack]

Thanks! 🥰

[@lukemanton7971]

Great video & advice Steve!

[@toddbridges7430]

Whilst in Bangkok I met a gal who could recite many Thai fables about a good number of those statues / characters. Endlessly fascinating. On occasion she would sing Thai lullaby’s softly in my ear. Enchanting

[@charleskuneff2073]

I love you Steve rosse. Stay strong and frosty. I been here 12 years. I still learn things from you.

[@hansabbel]

Poor Bob! If he stayed longer he know that he could buy his medication in Thailand for a fraction of the price!

[@anna_m59]

Very touchy story Steven.

[@spizzenergi2292]

The best advice I can ever give someone that is thinking of staying long term in Thailand, is have a hobby, or some interests that you can indulge in whilst you are here. I golf, swim, birdwatch, paint, gardening, cycle, walk. Never sit in a bar reflecting on what you have lost….it ain’t coming back.

[@steveaustin1984]

Not everyone gets bored, believe it or not. Certain personality types suffer from the phenomenon of boredom. Others never experience it (it doesn't mean we are better).

[@steverosse]

@@steveaustin1984 I challenge you to sit in a cubicle typing medical dictation all day every day for twenty years and not get bored. Dare ya!

[@steveaustin1984]

@@steverosse Repetitive, menial tasks, the mundane, the monotonous are my comfort. They allow my mind to easily slip into the calm of the subconscious, void of anxiety. It is a form of meditation.

[@steverosse]

@@steveaustin1984 My favorite thing in the world is washing dishes. Something very meditative about a sink full of hot water and Dawn Ultra, and a stack of dirty dishes.

[@steverosse]

@@consulthai Thank you for summarizing my book, "Leaving Thailand." Seriously, Tom, you suck at being a troll.

[@jameswatters9592]

The thing is when you are going through the nightmare of divorce you feel so very alone so maybe Bob just wanted to be next to someone that had gone through it and flourished to prove it was possible to live after losing it all.

[@steverosse]

Perhaps so. But if that's all he wanted, I'd bet there are hundreds of guys who fit that description back home. He really didn't need to fly halfway around the world to meet a divorced man who survived.

[@donjordan8174]

Great show keep them coming….

[@mapwhe]

Thanks Steve, good, honest perspective...well presented....some times even a little advice/direction from the right person at the right time can mean the world... stay well Mark

[@rosscoe9516]

Another amazing video.

[@coryjackson3131]

Great idea for the turtle 👍🏻 thanks for sharing Steve I enjoyed the video as always.

[@farangdownunder4724]

The image of the cigar smoking monk was Luang Por Koon who was a famous monk from Nakhon Ratchasima "Korat". He had a lot of followers and was said to have achieved nirvana before he passed. He spoke Korat and could not speak in the Thai dialect and was loved by millions.🙏. Nice video and good to get some local shots around turtle beach and the Wat 🙏

[@steverosse]

Thank you for your kind words, but it's not a wat. It's a tourist attraction. No monks in residence, or nuns, or stray dogs or monkeys or elephants. No funerals or weddings or ordination ceremonies. Just a thousand icons and a hundred donation boxes.

[@farangdownunder4724]

@@steverosse different up there in turtle beach then? Looks Sabi Sabi though 🙏

[@steverosse]

@@farangdownunder4724 I don't know, but I reckon that shady "meditation centers" exist all over Asia, maybe all over the world. Some guru gets donations and buys some land and starts building. There are pavilions and pergolas and bell towers, monks and Gods and dead kings, and a pond where you can feed six-foot-long cat fish. It's a lot of things, but a temple it most definitely is not.

[@Judith3544]

Been there , got the T shirt but ended up happily married to my beautiful Thai wife , living in Rayong..

[@marcjtdc]

Fresh Steve Video. Ready. I got a rum and coconut water with an egg salad sandwich.

[@ray-sharp8563]

yes. funeral scam had variations. My friend has bought a couple of ‘caskets’ for the poor deceased persons who were photographed lying dead on the temple floor

[@WanderingWolf365]

Turtle looks to be coming along great - WW

[@dandgresort]

Great story.

[@nokchilton1562]

All best wishes for Bob and hope he can be happy like you! The fake funeral is a new thing! What happened to the buffalo story 😂

[@steverosse]

It seems that dating a farang can be very bad for the health of a bar girl's family and barnyard animals.

[@matthewslife1]

Lol guys

[@mikeharrington5593]

Steve, let's hope your children get to visit you at TB some time in the future, despite the toxic breakup taking them away from you.

[@matthewslife1]

BOB!!!! " This to shall pass" I wasn't going comment on this, because I knew I would get long winded with advice that you've already heard and know. BOB, You sound like a pretty smart guy. Focus and do what you have to do to make the best of a really bad situation. There's light at the end of the tunnel and you are smart enough to figure out how to get there. 1 day in the future, you will look back and all this will seem so irrelevant and small. It took Steve 20 years. But he is living his best life ever. Steve, Maybe you could do an update on bob once a month if you stay and touch with him.

[@steverosse]

He didn't answer my last text.

[@matthewslife1]

Steve, how can I get your PayPal. Coffee money...

[@steverosse]

@@matthewslife1 Does the link in the description not work? I know the coffee button does not work for people in Thailand, and I know people in Thailand have problems with PayPal. Otherwise, I'm clueless.

[@Mrhappy555]

Get it all out Steve, good therapy session 😂

[@MrShekoexile]

"Old man down Way down, down, down by the docks of the city Blind and dirty Asked me for a dime, a dime for a cup of coffee I got no dime but I got some time to hear his story" - from Wharf Rat by the Grateful Dead, lyrics by Jerry Garcia and Robert Hunter

[@cyclonicleo]

Bob has got a lot on his plate, but if he keeps his head up, takes things one day at a time, little by little, he'll get through it. He'll face the music, deal with his demons and maybe, just maybe, he'll come back to Thailand.

[@donjordan8174]

Wow! Mr. Turtle is coming along nicely…

[@narellec]

Woohoo it’s Friday! Watching now …

[@ScooterOnHisWay2024]

Deep, complex issues in this one. Some people need to see something for themselves to know that dreams can be had with effort and full commitment. I don't think 'Bob' was looking for more than that. I wish him well. I just finished your ebook "She Kept the Bar Between Us." Good quick reads, especially the opening vignette of the same name & some others you have recreated on YT. I like shorter reads as I get older. Too many 1000+ pg Stephen King novels in my past... Dark AF. Lots of dark to explore in the world.

[@jimcraiggeezer]

poor old BOB.. obviously has many issues..never had a passport??.. how the fook does that happen these days.. let`s hope he finds some peace..we`ve all been through shite in our lives and as you said..you will be ok..eventually.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Love it ❤☮️. +1

[@rickwilson478]

Hi Steve, maybe you could make a tootsie roll dispenser out of the turtles ass for the kids during the parade 😮 ... no?... not sure what brought that to mind but figured I should share. Thanks for the video, turtle is looking good 👌

[@mikeharrington5593]

Ah, the old scams of funerals, motor cycle accidents, & the sick buffalo(es)

[@davidstephens4570]

Some people come to Thailand to escape mayhem and some to create it. Very few come to find peace and/or happiness. I am jealous of you brother.

[@kellyeggers8015]

I believe that everyone, including monks, are looking for that thing that will bring them serenity. You my friend are lucky to have lived to find yours🥰😎🌅🐢

[@dr.detroit2877]

Steve, Bob was looking for inspirational strength from you in which you provided. People find strength in all sort of things. Sometimes we need to slow down in order to proceed in life. It sounds like Bob needs to get lost for awhile. For me Taoism brought peace and clarity to my life. I stopped worrying about everything and only thought about things that mattered to me alone. I connected to the world by connecting with nature. How taoist view nature and how they learn from nature created a path for me to move forward. Bob needs not to destruct or destroy his life for a woman who would gladly do that for him. Bob needs to find himself again, find his strengths and recognize his weakness. Create a SWOT chart, create opportunities and not make decisions while under stress and above all, surround himself with good people not toxic drunks and bar girls.

[@MONKLJ]

No wonder the guy was going through bad times, he can't think for himself he wants someone else like yourself to hand it to him.

[@JohnMitch]

Interesting life you have, live long and prosper

[@steverosse]

Thanks!

[@kevinhibbins1703]

Hi Steve, all that polystyrene on the turtle reminded me of your cracked fish tank base. Put polystyrene under it and you will never have that problem again. It's great for getting it level and smoothing out bumps etc. especially on concrete. Great video as always.

[@steveaustin1984]

Happy Father's Day!

[@steverosse]

Thanks. You too?

[@steveaustin1984]

@@steverosse Thank you, but no. Misanthrope, here. Too much contempt for “humanity”😉

[@PeterC245]

Steve , Divorce been there done that , I now wear a suit of armor, no female can damage me now ,

[@Baloybeach]

Life has a way of sending us down paths unknown, and then you come to a dead end. Hopefully you can make your own pathway out, it can be a challenge but it can be done.

[@kevinrummelhart]

I would add some kind of internal lighting to the turtle... Maybe a string of white blinking xmas lights...

[@rogermanifold8615]

Sympathys to Bob.. Because I never learn I divorced twice both were extremely painful, there was very little rest bite for the mind which chewed me up daily, I came through both, I'm whole again and happy, single and happy, I can't do that again. With a habit on top it's a tough gig, dig in Bob it's easy for me to say, you need friends or family, keep busy and best wishes, you can do this!

[@armandosticco1912]

Great video ( the parts that had audio) you are the " grumpy old man, hope * for many of us. Btw the newest scam is the crypto scam,

[@matman007]

luv your wisdom sincerity n calmness longlive Super Lemon Haze😂😂😂💯🤙✅

[@hopfrogg9599]

Holy crap. I love your videos Steve, but flying all the way to Thailand just to spend a few days with Steve on Turtle Beach and then turn around and go back... Let's hope someone hid that 12 gauge.

[@steverosse]

Yeah, and he didn't even get to spend a few days with Steve. We had dinner, and then he locked himself into his bungalow, and then I went to Phuket. He flew all this way to eat dinner with Steve.

[@hopfrogg9599]

@@steverosse F*#k, now I'm depressed. If you're reading this divorced guy, come back, forget Steve, go to Pattaya, have some fun for a month, but absolutely under no circumstances do not fall in love.

[@steverosse]

@@consulthai Jesus, Tom, didn't you just send me a peace offering? What's with this mercurial shift to nasty bitch? My medical background is in transcription, what did you want me to do for the woman on the motorcycle? Spell "sternocleidomastoid" for her? I was standing here in my pajamas, no phone, no money, nothing in my pockets, at 3 a.m. There was a cop right there on the scene when the accident took place. WTF do you think I could have done?

[@steverosse]

@@hopfrogg9599 I agree 100%.

[@matthewslife1]

I agree 100%... Pattaya???? :)

[@markdorpinghaus3325]

God Bless Bob

[@steverosse]

Amen.

[@marcjtdc]

18:30 I'm getting dizzy. Was that a 420 degree rotation?

[@writeronthestormkyushu565]

One morsel of food...10,000 catfish fighting over it...America?

[@PaulWalliswriter]

Steve Rosse (with an e) rocks my socks .....

[@dannyho6786]

What part of Thailand is turtle beach ?

[@darkcloud9581]

best wishes to Bob ......hopefully he fills that new passport with stamps from all over the world ..........the year before covid for me it was 6 trips to Thailand , a Trip to Munich for Oktoberfest and a trip to New York ........can't wait to get back to Thailand again soon ..........get a blessing from the 420 Monk ???

[@deplorabled1695]

Steve please tell me the name of this opening song and the artist. I cannot find it anywhere.

[@steverosse]

That information is (of course) in the closing credits.

[@daviddenham1511]

Underestimate the power of Monks at your peril….

[@Jubal.Harshaw]

So, the goatee has no moustache whereas the van dyke includes the moustache. There are many names for the different patterns of facial hair. It is difficult to keep them all straight.

[@paulrickenbaker]

I thought you were going to make the float out of lighters?!

[@steverosse]

It will be encrusted with lighters like a Faberge egg. I reckon it will take about 5,000 lighters. But first the armature must be solid enough to support all that weight.

[@bwquik1]

sorry not done yet. bob is you and bob is me and bob is all the grains of sand on your beach. when bob knocked, you answered. bob will remember and so will I. peace

[@steverosse]

I will remember your kind words.

[@glynstanleyhughes3970]

Tip of the day try using super glue sprinkle boi card soda over the glue Works all the time good luck Steve