The "Do it all" god Mage: D&D

[@MrNikolasMorith]

Love how modest you're trying to be. "Got me a little know in the optimization community" Every guide written after yours kept trying to copy you. Lol

[@batterylevellow5473]

I'm not to familiar with optimization history. Did he do the blue green thing first or something?

[@MrNikolasMorith]

@@batterylevellow5473 That's the thing.

[@batterylevellow5473]

@@MrNikolasMorith Oh my god

[@batterylevellow5473]

@@MrNikolasMorith Seriously?!

[@MrNikolasMorith]

@@batterylevellow5473 yep

[@herrkrabbe148]

Good news Treantmonk, Order Domain Cleric was also added into Tasha's Cauldron of Everything

[@sesimie]

When the God Wizard Author talks about a God Mage....i listen and click like.

[@chadbrochill19]

When someone asks you if you are a god, you say YES.

[@mcullennz]

A God wizard with no wizard 😁

[@mathieudemers199]

@@mcullennz that sound the OZ-car right Dorothy 😏

[@seankramer8525]

@@mcullennz Treant is the god wizard he refers to, the build being a god mage is different and broader

[@SilverKarlov]

Clockwork Soul is the subclass that's reinvigorated the Sorcerer kick for me. The spell choice just feels almost endless, it's so exciting!

[@philwalsworth4085]

I did too! Really excited to make one, might actually take sorceror straight instead of multiclass like I have for years!

[@SilverKarlov]

@@philwalsworth4085 I have this recurring character I play that is a martial sorcerer, and clockwork inspired me to remake him with this subclass. A lot of the things you get lend really well to playing a melee character. Armor of Agathys + the 6th level ability makes for a surprisingly tanky character. Before I was using Draconic for the free mage armor and +1 HP, but I think Clockwork just adds so much, plus it makes me excited to build it.

[@moto2442]

Honestly it is so good for a sorlock as well. The fact that it can remove disadvantage fixes a big issue with the base build which is melee enemies. That plus the insane versatility of the spells (originally I would go divine soul for more versatility this gives even more spells so awesome) Plus it makes going polearm master with a sorlock a viable strategy. When they enter your reach as a reaction you can blast out 4 eldritch blasts the first one without disadvantage due to the ability. And the rest without disadvantage due to no longer being in reach. That combined with the extra survivability

[@mydknightcloud]

I started homebrewing other sorcerers to have expanded spell list for my groups games. Divine soul gets to choose domain spells instead of picking an alignment. Doing this from all origins really spices up the class.

[@shanebernier2483]

I just need to say, I'm so happy to see you do an Order Cleric 1 / Sorcerer X build finally. Back before TCoE came out I played a very similar character with Divine Soul, focusing purely on buff spells (since Dwarves couldn't boost CHA back then, and it was also just fun to play without ever taking an ASI). I figured that Clockwork soul could probably be used to better effect, and glad o see I was proven right.

[@argentumvulpus6060]

I've been waiting for this build ever since the clockwork soul got officially released! Thank you

[@ArvelDreth]

I just finished a campaign that actually surprisingly got to level 20 and my friend used this build while I played the peace cleric 1/chronurgy wizard 19 from tabletop builds and it was such a blast. We really had an answer to basically every problem, and at no point did any of the other players feel overshadowed. The DM didn't even feel upset at how optimized we were. Thank you so much for putting this build together.

[@jonathanmcdermott25]

Holy shit! I didn’t know you had a KZbin channel!! Your wizard guide forever changed how I view the class. Thank you sir!

[@reecewood1918]

I'm playing this build with a few alterations and I absolutely love it. My DM has a bunch of 3rd party content and UA available so I've switched a few things up. Right now we're at lvl 5 and I'm feeling like the most powerful charecter at the table, but doing it in such a way that I'm never overshadowing the other charecters at the table. Fist time playing a god wiz and I love it. Thanks for the build Chris!!!

[@hyruleenigma]

Clockwork soul is definitely the next sorcerer I'm playing. For a subclass whose flavor is seemingly based on enforcing rigid normalcy, it's lovely to see how flexible and open-ended it is mechanically.

[@WinterPains]

Personally, I like the idea of a character who gets their magic from order, vut has to make their choices in a chaotic manner (planning a Warforged or a Kenku who can't decide on complex choices alone, so they use dice to decide stuff).

[@hyruleenigma]

@@WinterPains I like that concept! I myself am planning a gambler who's unnaturally lucky until they're "cursed" with a connection to Mechanus for being too improbable. They find out they can use Mechanus's energies to fuel their powers later in life.

[@WinterPains]

@@hyruleenigma I like that. Obviously the Gambler background. Likely with the Lucky feat. Perhaps a halfling as well?

[@hyruleenigma]

@@WinterPains it'd be a shame not to!

[@WinterPains]

@@hyruleenigma I'm also really into Artificer right now. My current favourite flavourful build is an Anubis Cleric. Obviously a Grave Cleric, mutliclassed into a Battle Smith Artificer who fights with a scythe (reflavoured glaive), has a Jackal Steel Defender, and uses magic bandage-like cloth he weaved himself (Weaver's Tools).

[@einsibongo]

This is how I've wanted the sorcerer's mechanic to work, I'm so happy. This build is great!

[@jbirmingham2380]

I saw a Reddit discussion going over this build. Took a few comment strings to get the right answers but I like just watching a video over it. Thanks!

[@dmal-ty5qw]

When TreantMonk makes a caster video, and it's an hour. I know I'm in for it. Amazing work always. You know the game so well.

[@Reoh0z]

Me, "Sorcerers should get free spells like clerics." Friends, "That's too powerful, if they ever did the spells would suck." WotC, "I got you fam, here you go."

[@andrewreimann5203]

I've been playing with this build almost identical to this, and I took ritual caster with that 13 Wisdom. I will say, traditionally sucky metamagic like Distant and Extended are actually good on this build. Two hour Agathys is great for dungeon crawls, and 16 hour Aid is perfection. Staying in range with counterspell, dispel magic, and the buff spells (touch and otherwise), is wonderful for this build

[@adamkaris]

Doesn't distant not work with counterspell? Since the "Casting time" specifically says "a reaction when a creature within 60' casts a spell" and not "a reaction when a creature within range casts a spell"? So the range of counterspell gets doubled to 120', but you can still only use it on a target within 60?

[@andrewreimann5203]

@@adamkaris that’s an incredibly strict raw reading. I guess folks should take that up with their dm beforehand. I’m a pretty strict raw dm, and even I would allow that asterisk to match the spell’s described range

[@nickm9102]

@@adamkaris Typically the response by CP is that the mechanics that more focused (Sorcerer Metamagic over Spell) is the suggested mechanic to follow unless there is a specific statement addressing the topic in the books.

[@Zswasd]

Recently i made a Hexblade Aberrant Mind character, i felt like it was super optimized (although i focused a little bit more on damage, but still), but after some of your arguments in this video i see a lot of flaws on my build. Also i grew to appreciate the clockwork soul a little more (when i read it at first, i didn't think it was nearly as good as aberrant mind), the spell list on this subclass is a lot better than the aberrant mind gets. Keep it up, i like your optimizations ideas a lot .

[@godminnette2]

I think you missed the fact that when you bump your wisdom to 14, you get a third cleric spell to prepare each day. Small bump, but a bump nonetheless

[@syncarn]

Nice, that leaves room for Healing Word which seems borderline broken with Voice of Authority. Trading a bonus action 1st level spell slot for a rogue sneak attack is just crazy.

[@jomohunter4649]

resilient wis feat to not become frightened etc. so he gets wis to 14 eventually

[@Razdasoldier]

Checking in a year later if you have access to silvery barbs you get to debuff, buff, and use voice at the same time. Use wither and bloom to damage, heal, and voice at the same time. Now you can tank, dps, heal, buff, and debuff all at the same time. If dm allows strixhaven background (even without the feat) you take quandrix so that circle of power opens up to you

[@reecewood1918]

That's what I did, but we had a 35 point, point buy and a free first lvl feet for any race. The other casters are baffled by my spell list haha

[@TL582j]

This channel is so good. For a seemingly simple system like 5e ive found tones of things I hadn't considered on these videos.

[@comfortablegrey]

I appreciate your acknowledgement that aberrant mind sorcerer is a more popular subclass, but you strongly support your feelings for the clockwork soul! Force cage alone is hard to argue with, if the campaign gets to that level. Also, this build has one of the best single level dips I've ever seen.

[@TreantmonksTemple]

For a fix on D&D beyond for Clockwork Soul, see the video description. Also, I was reminded that the Order domain is in Tasha's, but for some reason I couldn't select it in D&D B without Magic content turned on.

[@thedude0000]

My work around was to create a Homebrew based of the subclass. I was able to edit the spell list that way and still have all the other abilities. Not the easiest way, but it works.

[@logancuster8035]

Just want to give a shout out to the Protection from Good and Evil spell. If you’re character happens to find themselves Barovia, or the hells, for example, I would consider it a top tier, low resource, buff spell. Not to mention that it works great with both Twin Spell, Voice of Authority, and it doesn’t even need to push out any of your spells known, as your Cleric preparations allow you to pick it up as needed.

[@samuelbroad11]

my paladin in Barovia has used this to great effect, esp the can't be charmed or frightened part against hags. Concentration does eventually get lost, but as the only tank has allowed me to draw fire just by proximity. Getting Haste next level but hate the lose a round effect when dropping Concentration.

[@taa347]

I still prefer Aberrant Mind because of the theme and all the lovely mind control + improved subtle spell, but you've definitely shown how ridiculously versatile clockwork is. I have an NPC I run in my games who was a warlord in 4th edition and what you've made here evokes that really well for me. Thanks for the video!

[@crownlexicon5225]

Wood elves can also "ignore" the heavy armor penalty Well, not really, but with a base walking speed of 35, with the 10' penalty, they're at the same as a dwarf who ignores the penalty

[@ChristnThms]

I was thinking about this. I mean, the dwarf "suffers no penalty..." beyond being a dwarf. But, being a dwarf IS a movement penalty. So, besides Wood Elves, there's the Centaurs, Leonins, Dhampirs and Satyrs. Plus the atypical movement boosts for Tabaxis and Orcs, and the Feral Tiefling only gives up 1AC (swapping to med armor) for flight. I'm not saying anything against the Hill Dwarf choice. Just saying that the racial choice isn't as limited as that.

[@jomohunter4649]

I think the bonus hp made the difference and i get why! My lvl 5 wizard has 25 hp cause i rolled for hp and had a 14...ill never play a caster that squishy agin!^^

[@levipeterken4020]

How does he wield a shield and cast spells?

[@crownlexicon5225]

@@levipeterken4020 with the other hand? My paladin/sorcerer has a morning star or lance in one hand and a shield in the other and still casts spells. Gotta be sure they're verbal only or a paladin spell where I can use my shield/holy symbol. For spells like Shield, I have to use subtle spell.

[@Razdasoldier]

@@levipeterken4020 to be safe put your holy symbol as an emblem so it can be on armor or shields, sorcerers can use arcane focus (I recommend staff for the use as a quarter staff until you can get a blood well vial and use the necklace to get around everything.

[@nidielcacaca]

I wouldn't get rid of lesser/greater restoration, they are not obtainable later if I change my mind about the spell selection. Besides that, this is probably the best character build i've seen in a while :D

[@godminnette2]

There should probably be an errata that you could change it back to the original spells on the list...

[@nidielcacaca]

@@godminnette2 that would be perfect

[@morganpetros9635]

Depends on whether you've already got a cleric or druid in the party. If so, you really don't need these on your spell list.

[@wassentme1891]

I assume since he is doing a Sorcerer he isn't trying to fill those roles. I agree he could, but sounds like that is low on his priority list. If he wanted those spells he would play those classes.

[@Kurse_of_Kall]

42:21 "Haste *always* works" Cannot stress this point enough. I have a wizard who has a beautiful suite of battlefield control and debuff spells, but when you can't utilize a Hypnotic Pattern, and Slow just doesn't do anything to the enemy, Haste is a great way to still be effective with my casting.

[@FelineElaj]

I can't agree enough. Every time the opposition is heavy on resistances, immunities and Legendary resistances (which is often, on higher levels), I am grateful to have trusty Haste on my side. Just cast Haste on a barbarian and watch the body parts fly.

[@jakubkucharczyk5255]

With twinned spell Haste can be casted on two most damaging weapon users in the party, they will love sorcerer for this. Fantastic spell.

[@Booklat1]

@@FelineElaj can recommend

[@jasonsmith1950]

One other thing haste has is a wave of lethargy after the spell ends. Makes maintaining concentration on it really important, but I can't help but think that there would be ways to use this on an enemy - just cast it on them, then drop concentration when its convenient.

[@solarupdraft]

It was probably your guide that first keyed me in to why Bless is usually better than Bane, and it's the same problem to solve that your one-shot players faced: enemies don't want to be affected by your spells, but your allies do. So, thanks!

[@quincybriley4113]

This is probably one of my favorite builds that i've seen you make.

[@vipcesh]

After playing 2 sessions with my version of this build, it has been a blast (level 6). From dispel magic to fairyfire and haste, aid and gift of alacrity (meta magic extended so it lasts through a long rest) silvery barbs, and most spells causing free reaction attacks. I even lighting lured a gnoll into a pit. Never a dull spell!

[@hadcam4962]

The perfect build doesn't ex... Well take me sideways through Limbo, this is awesome.

[@Fr4nZeR]

Wonderfull as allways. God I missed a mage build made by you. Colby keeps scratching the itch but this is the real deal! Thanks!

[@Nick-li9tg]

Thank you for posting this build - its phenomenal! I started playing Descent into Avernus with a group of players less interested in optimizing. It’s great to help them out without overshadowing them. Really fun!

[@feltrix334]

I love the explanation for why Fireball is included: because the best crowd control effect is Dead.

[@ryanrindler1715]

I believe Order Domain was reprinted in Tasha's, so no need to have MTG content.

[@reecewood1918]

Voice of authority+ healing word + restore balance = making your friend who just went down super happy. Also, VOA + silvery barbs

[@JugglingAddict]

VOA also works great with ranged martials and vortex warp, thunder step or dimension door. The healing from Wither and Bloom might also be appresiated.

[@lilithmitchener]

I love your attitude to optimizeation, I love to rp but also have strong builds but a lot of people ignore the practical aspect of playing at a table with it. I followed this video for a character of mine a couple months ago and had so much fun, thank you x

[@Bilbrons-and-Dragons]

Wicked! Nice to see how effective that "swap out spells" thing can be. Super impressive caster that is very tempting to play. I do like a good buff. Metagaming, as an Arcane Caster climbs in Level, the whole issue of "how can I contribute without overshadowing the rest of the party?" starts coming up. When I hit that point in Bilbron Bafflestone's game, I started buffing all the time (even though it's technically suboptimal) and great fun was had by all. My party Martials started getting addicted to that sweet sweet Haste juice, lol... and I had Spell Storing items so had plenty to spread around.

[@tyleremery7088]

Haste does kinda sound like a drug...

[@russgarry2810]

Another use of Restore Balance would be to help your rogue teammate as it prevents the disadvantage from making sneak attacks not happen.

[@finalfantasy50]

rogue teammate got knocked unconcious? step next to that enemy, use healing word to revive the rogue, voice of authority triggers and the rogue can attack with reaction, restore balance to remove disadvantage and because you are next to the enemy the rogue can sneak attack

[@nathansmith9597]

Also quick note that restore balance works on ability checks, so you can use it cancel out your own disadvantage for stealth rolls. Your stealth still won't be great, of course, so you won't want to pretend you are a rogue. However, group stealth checks are not uncommon, in my experience, and are sometimes very important. Restore balance (which can be combined with magical guidance from sorcerer level 5 onward, NB) means that your heavy armor probably won't screw things up, at least. Restore balance and darkvision also means that you can be surprisingly great at perception. Not top tier, but really good - cancel out the disadvantage from dim light, and (again) can be combined with magical guidance for those really important perception rolls. This build in particular can really leverage both of those (and throw guidance cantrip into the mix, at that). I think it will actually get a lot of mileage out of restore balance.

[@SystemOfFantasy]

This is now my favorite character concept, its so nice to have a answer for everithing!

[@douglasmorris8995]

I used a 6th level version of this build with a Warforged to join a friend's game that needed an extra player and it was awesome having so much utility for the party. Just wanted to say thanks for the fun build!

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

I always find it ironic that the class that works best with an Order cleric is Rogues. Great build as always.

[@christopherboylan9793]

Here for the content - liking the great work that you do, and this comment is just for the algorithm - keep it up!

[@goblinking1349]

With Fey Touched, I would recommend getting Dissonant Whispers instead of Tasha's Hideous Laugher. The Dissonant Whispers can trigger a lot of opportunity attacks, and if twinned can make two melee creatures waste their turn. Crucially, it does not use concentration, so it ages a lot better than Tasha's.

[@civilbeard]

I agree. Dissonant whispers is excellent.

[@Zepherus14]

Isn't Dissonant Whispers unwilling movement? If so it wouldn't proc opportunity attacks, much like being pushed away from an opponent

[@civilbeard]

@@Zepherus14 The spell forces the creature to use its reaction to move. The text for opportunity attacks states that you don't provoke one "when you teleport or when someone or something moves you without using your movement, action, or reaction." Since Dissonant Whispers makes you use your reaction to move, you do provoke opportunity attacks.

[@Zepherus14]

@@civilbeard Had to look it up... I... I am very confused, it appears you're right! I... don't know where I read that then? I know it's from something... How very very strange. BUT! Thank you very much for clearing that up, I have learned something new today!

[@banfox_]

@@Zepherus14 maybe you got confused with booming blade, which requires the movement to be intentional (?)

[@arsov9885]

A comment for support. Thanks for the video.

[@dwrichter]

You beautiful bastard. I just found this video. 7months ago was running a mini campaign for Forever DM's. I had two of these sorcerers along with two rogues spring this build on me out of nowhere.

[@leod2470]

you are the best man, i love and respect you and your content ,each video. "CONTINUA COSI FENOMENO"!!!

[@Cloudwolf785]

Thank you so much for this video. I had been struggling trying to figure out how to build my character cause I wanted to play a trader/merchant kind of character which obviously does well with charisma but I wasn't feeling bard at all and wanted arcane casting but sorcerer just felt lacking in choices. This completely solves all my problems, though I won't be quite as tanky since I already decided to be a changeling for my backstory XD

[@manuelpacciardi2473]

Guild Artisan BG gives Persuasion, not Perception. Otherwise, it's all wonderously done! Bravo!

[@leodouskyron5671]

That is a great build and a firm argument to the power of the Dwarf and the clockwork soul. I would have thought I never would really want those two flavors together but I like it.

[@incantrix1337]

*casts command on the rogue* "Attack!"

[@slickrickard]

I like the idea here I imagine you were going for sort of a Battle Master concept but wouldn't this just be a waste of a spell? The command issued by the command spell doesn't take place until a creatures turn as stated in spell. So a rogue would not milk another sneak attack nor would they gain any advantage from this other than the clerics ability to give them a reaction attack. Which is perfectly fine but sort of a waste of a spell slot when you could just hit them with a buff all the same.

[@kyowey4847]

@@slickrickard fairly sure that the idea is that the rogue just hides and never attacks lol. had one of those in my last campaign >.>

[@BODELTOTE]

@@slickrickard it was a joke, my dude

[@archmagemc3561]

Greater Restoration should stay on your list if you don't have a cleric/druid in your party, as when it comes up, its very important that you had it. But if you do, those two classes can prepare that spell when needed.

[@jasonetheridge2762]

For anyone reading this 2 years later, I agree with both lesser and Greater restoration as options to keep depending on your campaign. If the one cleric is paralyzed, you can lesser restoration them and give them a attack afterwards. Maybe that matters, maybe not. Same with your one other spellcaster with greater restoration memorized is petrified. Greater restoration removes petrified and gives them an attack maybe. And that's just if it's the cleric. If it's another character that's blinded or charmed and the cleric needs to get a PC up with a spell or potion other than healing word, having the option to restoration someone else means the party gets two PCs back in one turn and helps avoid a death spiral.

[@benmichaud8778]

I really like this! I'm early into a campaign (just leveled up to L5) as an aberrant mind sorcerer, and finding you're right about the clockwork sorcerer spell list is possibly the far better subclass list over all, but our campaign is much more social orientated than combat, so I'm getting a lot of use out of things like Detect thoughts, calm emotions, and Sending. So what I would point out about this list is that at most levels is that pretty much every spell choice is focused on combat casting. This is fine, but there are going to be a lot of campaigns that involve less combat and more social interactions, or heists etc, where different spell choices actually make more sense, so as optimised and amazing as this is (and it really is and I've learnt a lot about spell choice order from it!), it shouldn't be everything you need to consider when picking your spells. Final note is I love the order cleric one level dip for the L1 Class feature. Really creative way to make this *also* a damage build! It's got a very similar feel/effect to hasting a rogue who then holds their haste action to attack as a reaction!

[@CanisMythson]

I went a slightly different route for my level 5 Var. Human CS sorc, starting off with Metamagic Adept and Ritual Caster targeting the Wizard list, to create a character that not only has more spells available to cast then a Wizard, but doesn't even sacrifice the ritual functionality, having all the great stuff there. Also because they seemed fitting for this "gung ho sorcerer that believes he's a wizard" build, he got the Quicken and Subtle metamagics from Metamagic Adept in addition to Distant and Heightened. Heightened specifically to increase the chances one of those potent control spells takes effect on the target, and Distant because Counterspell at 120 feet solves the main issue with Counterspell.

[@NateFinch]

Well. This this the first time I've *ever* even considered playing a sorcerer. And this one looks amazing. Not only do you have an ever larger repertoire of spells than the wizard, but you also have charisma to be a leader outside of combat. That was my only real problem with wizards, they're never very talky.

[@abedrahman4519]

I am playing a cronurgy wizard with dips in Tempest domain cleric. I used to play a semi-blaster but after watching your god wizard story video, I wanted to make my cronurgy wizard similar. Having the ability to grant re-rolls to allies/ force opponents to reroll has made me realize this subclass can also be a god mage of sorts. In earlier sessions, my wizard would fight alongside the party sometimes showing up the tanks, now he hangs back, gives a greater invisibility bead to the rogue, hastens the barbarian and enjoys those clutch fate altering reactions (he has lucky so counterspells have advantage) and anyone else gets advantage on saving throws from Chronal Shift

[@kymwright2949]

I just finished a three year campaign from level 1 to 20 with this character. What a blast! Highly recommend, my party loved me.

[@mikelustigshow]

dude, your videos are always so awesome, informative, and helpful!

[@dandanner3111]

Edit: I was shocked that he didn't mention Minor Illusion first in his list of cantrips.

[@TreantmonksTemple]

Nobody would have been more shocked than me if I didn't take it!

[@kolskit]

Impressive! While this character doesn't get some of the insanity of an end-game wizard, the mid-game versatility is amazing, and in all honesty I've NEVER naturally gotten to 17-20 in a game. They always end around 15, and we maybe come back for a max level one shot. This character looks like it would make those first 15 levels smooth as butter, and the end game still gets wish (were I to ever get there)!

[@nickm9102]

Yep, the goal of every Sorcer, Wizard, and Arcana Cleric Lvl 17 in the class.

[@sadgeman4589]

A sorcerer that isn't a one-trick pony???? Witchcraft!!! Or should I say... SORCERY!

[@sarezar]

I love how KZbin auto-captions starts your videos with "Hey upton answers". Yep. I'm an Upton Answer alright! (Now to actually watch the video)

[@alanartero1999]

Let me start with saying that I love your channel. Sometimes I disagree with your assessments and builds, but I always love your thought process. You said that you are going to play this character; I think it would be interesting to revisit this build after you get into higher levels (14-17) and talk about why you may have deviated from your initial ideas for the build, if at all. I'd like to here about what works or doesn't work after a hard play test at your table. Thanks again for you work.

[@TreantmonksTemple]

We'll see if I ever get a chance to actually play this to higher levels. I hope so. If I do, I'll definitely consider a recap video.

[@christophersauer9919]

Thank you.

[@jameskurth3560]

Thanks for the awesome guide. I'll have to consider this for a character. My most recent favorites were divine soul+hexblade as a half drow and a mark of healing halfling artificer 1 then divination wizard. Both were a ton of fun to play with lots of options.

[@thenightowldude]

That is a game-changing build.

[@DR-023-17]

I personally love the earth genasi for this character but if you wanted to stick with a dwarf, going Duergar would also give you enlarge reduce which would give you a different spell option! Love this video and character concept!

[@MeepOfFaith]

I'm currently playing in a campaign where we're leveling up fast and I'm trying this build. Pros: It's awesome and effective. Cons: We're going so fast that when he said "We're level 8 now, we've had our fun with fireball it's time for it to go." I frowned as I skipped levels 6/7 and went straight to 8 from 5 xD Glorious build Chris!

[@20100langlois]

Awesome build! Love it! Really good, simple, to the point, and sounds like a ton of fun to play.

[@theonlymatthew.l]

When I heard u first mention 'God Wizard' years ago this is the type of build I thought of. 👍

[@IGotDiabeetus]

I keep coming back to this one, it's a really good build

[@Karina-Loves-Andreas]

THIS is why I ❤ Treantmonk SO MUCH!!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@peterrasmussen4428]

I want to mention, you say you won't be casting command, but it is actually a really good spell to trigger voice of authority. Just command your ally to attack. Notice how we don't have any other first level spell that can safely target an ally and doesn't require concentration, that is why command is deceptively good on this build.

[@KaelinGoff]

Im actually doing this with with the parties bbeg right now. A charismatic religious figure type. Loads of flavor and fun mechanics!

[@prixiusnecrolance8531]

Or just cast healing word

[@peterrasmussen4428]

@@prixiusnecrolance8531 I don't know how I missed that. I have run an order cleric/bard, where I always use my bonus action to inspire. So maybe that is why I didn't think about it.

[@agilemind6241]

Issue there is that once the creature does the command they end their turn. So if you command an ally to attack they cannot use a bonus action or their movement nor choose the optimal target. They must attack the nearest creature within range and then end their turn.

[@peterrasmussen4428]

@@agilemind6241 well, it will depend on interpretation, but you can always order them to fight, or whatever else you can come up with that is non-disruptive

[@fubarace1027]

I think Foresight is the best lvl 9 wizard spell other than Wish, 8 hour duration, non concentration, and all about the wizard staying alive at levels where creatures are scary. I'm a fan. Current game, lvl 10 War Wizard, first opportunity to play an arcane caster in 5th, rolled a Githyanki War Wizard at your suggestion. Not playing the effective control build as for flavor I've decided a Gith would be about personally laying down some pain, but still very fun. I'll transition into control as my levels climb and it's more clear bringing the boom isn't as effective as it once was, gotta love Wizards. Thank you for the recommend. I've hesitated a time or two thinking Enchant might be better, but now that my levels are moving, I'm happy where I am. Fact is, I've been forced to get some control because of the enemies we're facing, I enjoy this was an RP decision where my tactically minded mage decided the change is necessary as our game has had some good RP in it. One other thing, I was thinking about this. I've gotten a lot of use from See Invisible in the campaign I'm currently playing in. It's not beyond the truth to say I've broken early encounters down from hard to trivial, and plot lines I've been able to deduce early as a result of having that spell. Perhaps it was situational to my GM's homebrew world, but I can't think my experience was unique. Adding to the upside of the spell, it's a non concentration duration spell.

[@civilbeard]

That's one hell of a build! Incredible versatility.

[@seacliff217]

For players with DMs not allowing Tahsa's optional racial rules. (I have 3 DMs and none of them allow it, I can't be the only one), consider using Half-Elf and use Half-Elf versatility to get the Wood Elf's Fleet of Foot. As stated in this video, the only downfall for not meeting the strength requirement for Heavy Armor is a loss of 10 feet of base movement. So a race with 35 feet base movement wearing heavy armor without meeting the strength requirement will still have 25 feet of movement, the same movement as a Dwarf. You won't get the extra HP that the Hill Dwarf gets, but you'll get that vital +2 Charisma and two flexible +1s, allowing you to replicate everything else in this build. You can even start with 14 Wisdom and be a little better with your Cleric spells if you can stand having an odd number for wisdom once you get the Resilient feat.

[@bloodyirishman9155]

Need an updated version of this.

[@44tuck3r]

I like that preparing even a healing word becomes more useful here than normal since it is giving an ally a reaction attack, using your BA and a low level slot, and no concentration.

[@Hidole555]

One thing I've noticed is that if Healing Word is used to bring an ally back from unconscious, there's some interesting interactions with the reaction attack. Because they were unconscious the person being healed has dropped whatever they were holding and are prone, meaning for most people from Voice of Authority you're looking at an unarmed strike likely made with disadvantage. This isn't so bad for Monks and anyone with Unarmed or Thrown Fighting Style, but someone like a Rogue would not be getting their Sneak Attack off on your turn since 1) they have disadvantage from being prone and 2) the Finesse weapon for it is still just laying on the floor. I suppose if the Rogue has the Thrown Weapon Fighting style (either from a feat or multiclass dip) you could walk up to the enemy, use the Help action with your ally being the unconscious Rogue, bonus action Healing Word and now the dagger he flings out will be at a normal roll, your Help advantage canceling out his Prone disadvantage, and your very presence from approaching the enemy grants him his Sneak Attack! It is ungodly niche, you may be seconds away from getting your face caved in, and I love it.

[@44tuck3r]

@@Hidole555 well, yes - IFF you restrict your healing words to downed allies. That is certainly relatively normal for healing word, as healing is often a suboptimal strategy in 5e. But; I am considering the use of Healing Word to be more optimal with this cleric subclass since it contributes to the damage dealt by the party in the round. If I am already concentrating on another buff/debuff/control spell, then I would be considering taking a help action and healing word, or a dodge action. But the BA cast increases in value significantly, even if healing itself remains suboptimal

[@kianholden7387]

@@Hidole555 Actually doesn't the clockwork soul have an ability that cancels disadvantage? Clockwork soul already fixes that problem, so no need to take the help action.

[@Hidole555]

@@kianholden7387 That had completely slipped my mind. Very clever!

[@alanschaub147]

I really enjoyed this video, and it is an amazing build! I have never been interested in playing a dwarf, though. I don’t know why. Thematically, I am much more interested in the flavor and role-play opportunities of an Aberrant Mind Sorcerer. I am eager to see what you do with it! 👍🏻

[@Arnsteel634]

I like your build. I’m just so old that it grinds on me that dwarves are using magic. Lol. Great video. Love it

[@samuelreese1816]

I loved this build, and will be playing this next game when I get the chance. Half way through, I thought you would go forge domain cleric, but order domain works so much better. With this range of spells, I may have gone spell sniper and distant spell sorcerer points to make sure you don't have problems with people out of range. This character is a monster!

[@TheObsidianWarlock]

Fantastic build!! (I'd have mentioned Demiplane for 8th level spells. As long as the DM is on board, it's a super useful utility.) I'd also love to know your opinion of what spells to switch out if you are also the party transport and need Teleport & Planeshift.

[@Coid]

38:47 I saw that ability and immediately thought "That would combo really well with a raging barbarian to be super tanky. Or a fiendlock or someone else with regenerating temporary hp. Or even be pretty nice on a person with the Heavy Armor Master feat."

[@greghamilton9505]

I’ve been doing both aberrant and clockwork with the first feat being ritual caster wizard… this puts them over the top versatile for all types of play

[@WorkingClassic]

Awesome build, gave me so many ideas for the tiefling clock sorlock I am about to play on Strahd.

[@CharmingLiveEnt]

Took tiny servant for my build with this. Anytime I drop a hypnotic pattern, poison dragons breath or synaptic static the tiny servant can use their voice of authority reaction attack.

[@michaeltodd343]

This build seems awesome! Definitely gonna play this in my next game.

[@maninalift]

The idea of an NPC knocking out one of our allies, then healing them and then popping back up and getting an immediate attack with "voice of authority" is really fun. On top of that extra attack if they stay up, they will get the next turn that they wouldn't have had otherwise. I can see a a good chance of getting a revenge kill this way.

[@Razdasoldier]

Came here from D4 deep dive and inadvertently recommended this exact combo before coming here. Should have known the master builder already found it

[@robjob34]

What do you think about swapping enlarge/reduce for suggestion? I think suggestion + subtle spell is a great combo in social situations. Is there a different second level spell that would be better to swap?

[@jeffdietz630]

RAW for level 18 ability repairs Staff of Magi that was used in retributive strike.

[@einsibongo]

...every day after a long rest. That and capitalism and we got a fortune few hundred buisness going.

[@elizabethviolet8448]

After you snap it in half, the two halves will take fuckloads of force damage, and i don't know if you can repair things after they've been reduced to thin wisps of smoke...

[@WildVii]

Matt Colville recently said on a live stream that Legendary Resistance makes very little sense in context. His take is that giving the DM the ability to just say “Nope” to a player disincentivizes them from using their cool high level abilities. That being said I agree with the thesis that wizards should have a mix of abilities/spells.

[@fadeleaf845]

How about instead having a boss' legendary actions be exempt from Incapacitation while above 0 HP?

[@WildVii]

@@fadeleaf845 Or just don’t give them free successes and instead give them more legendary actions with no point cost. Things they can do based on specific triggers. A spell is cast, a creature provokes, etc… Essentially more action economy.

[@agilemind6241]

@@WildVii Extra actions mean nothing if the big bad gets Stunned or Paralyzed or Polymorphed or Incapacitated or Plane Shifted or trapped out of range of the party.

[@WildVii]

​@@agilemind6241 Right, but all of those are easily rectifiable by simply giving them condition immunities, spells that can allow them to teleport back in the event that they are Plane Shifted...etc. Forgive me, but I feel like there's a distinct lack of creative thought on the part of DMs here. It seems that there's a knee-jerk reaction that WotC should provide a solution for every player created contingency. As a result, they created Legendary Resistance which doesn't really maintain verisimilitude. I would personally address each of the above issues thusly: (1) Give the boss condition immunities against being stunned or paralyzed. Alternatively give them magic items that provide these effects. Bonus because now you've got loot the party can obtain. (2) There's a feature that certain monsters have that prevent their shape from being forcibly changed. Can't remember it off the top of my head, but you can gin one up. Remember, you're the DM...monster stat blocks are a guideline. (3) For cases involving Banishment or Plane Shift, I would probably create a special action where the creature sucks in/drags other creatures along with it as it is Plane Shifted. You could have it use a reaction (or special action whatever you want here...) to force some number of creatures within 60 feet to make a save against the caster's DC (in this case the PC casting Plane Shift or Banishment). If they fail, they are dragged along with the creature. Bonus for additional tension and drama, make it so that the caster is no longer the one maintaining the concentration on the spell, but now the enemy creature is. See? Creative solutions that add to the drama rather than coming up with a generic catchall that just 'nopes' awesome player abilities away.

[@Xylerx000]

I have a soft spot for the Order Domain, especially that first level ability. Glad to see it being used here.

[@wisnakeo]

“Hey upton answers chris here”

[@CharmingLiveEnt]

Throwing a synaptic static at a hydra is the only case where you can target a single creature.

[@nathansmith9597]

Very small variation that delays fey touched but has a much safer level one and slightly higher con saves from level 5 onward: Mountain Dwarf - dump strength, 17 con, 17 cha, 13 wis Start as order domain cleric, then switch to sorcerer for levels 2+. Get resilient - Con as first feat, then fey touched as second feat. Note that protection from evil and good can be a very good spell in some campaigns and twins well (but it is on cleric list and is ability score agnostic, so you should prep it as cleric on days it might be handy)

[@sqw33k]

46:50 Voice of Authority specifically specifies "one weapon attack", so no it wouldn't work with polymorph since they are a beast (Unless the beast can somehow wield weapons).

[@finalfantasy50]

natural weapons are weapons (fists, bite etc)

[@peterrasmussen4428]

Hmm... I don't know about keeping levitate when you have fly. Seems to me Enhance ability would be a better option, it helps in pretty much any non-combat challenge. It comes up so many times, and plays very nicely with both subtle and twin metamagic. Rogue sneaking in somewhere? Enhance ability. Bard charming an NPC? Enhance ability. (Subtle metamagic if needed) Athletics check to climb a mountain? Enhance ability. (Twined to help two people) etc.

[@nicholass5621]

i personally don't think rogues need any help with stealth

[@u.v.s.5583]

The sorcerer who has the Fireball has an appropriate spell for every situtation.

[@robertlynch1834]

Perfection as usual

[@DnDDeepDive]

I knew it! ;)

[@TreantmonksTemple]

Yep, we can be predictable ;)

[@DnDDeepDive]

@@TreantmonksTemple Love the build, btw. Feels like a Swiss Army Knife on steroids :)

[@toondemaere3080]

You've convinced me on the clockwork sorcerer.