THE DOUBTS OF CELESTINE! THE TRUTH OF THE SAINT!

Hey everyone Rho here! Today we discuss the Imperial Saint Celestine! The sacrifice she makes for the good of the Imperium, and the truth of the doubts within her...
Spoiler Warning to begin as the events we are discussing today are from the Warhammer 40,000 short story "Celestine: Revelation" by author Andy Clark. As always I really recommend you read the story for yourself first. As that's the best way to enjoy the lore for yourself! Without Spoilers!
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[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

In many ways Celestine lives the life of an Astartes Dreadnought. Whenever she awakens to a new world, a new time and place all that wait for Her is endless War. Endlessly having to be that last hope and fight the most unwinnable fights.

[@jonharrison9222]

Worse. A dreadnought doesn’t have to pull the bits and pieces of itself together in the warp before it can return to war.

[@jeanlamarc8563]

Interesting point of view

[@jannathanielausan4671]

@@jonharrison9222 That and imagine the legions of sister fangirls obnoxiously screaming in your name

[@vonkug]

As seen in that short story about the mountain of corpses, Celestine likely became the Emperor's chosen because she has the will to match. What will cannot be broken by a thousand thousand excruciating deaths? Celestine. A colleague, if you will, of the Emperor. If not in psychic ability, than in will. To call the Emperor's will to defy death and chaos indomitable is an understatement. To call Celestine a colleague is a stretch, but if not her faith, her will is absolute. And hey, game recognizes game.

[@jannathanielausan4671]

Or the Emperor was just lonely and wanted a beautiful companion/waifu

[@BillD5244]

The last major read Shroud of Night, she was told to surrender the boy to those Alpha Legion marines. Between that and the fight with Kharn, I could understand her feeling spent and just drained.

[@sanninjiraiya]

I wish more people would read that book. Not only because the kharn portions are fantastic, but to help put to rest some of the wild misconceptions and fan theories people have invented by reading it's plot synopsis.

[@craynak]

It is literally an amazing read. Totally a underrated book.

[@oompaloompakia5702]

I love the sisters when they’re told well. When they’re 100% the perfect and faithful servants it’s pretty boring, but when they’re written as humans with doubts and struggles that they overcome to remain faithful, they’re some of the most relatable characters in 40K. Most of the Celestine stories (that I’ve seen at least) make her the epitome of that, and has become one of my favorite characters up there with Dante! Great video and description of one of my favorite sisters moments

[@alpharius8512]

My Father isnt a god, but Celestine is one of his Angels

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

“The difference between Angels and Daemons largely depends on where one is standing at the time.”

[@eichler721]

The Saint is great and an example of a well written female warrior. She had character arc and flaws but her perseverance is unmatched.

[@oblander7711]

If you think that was good Celestine: The living Saint Novel really goes into depth of how she struggles everytime she dies and gets reborn

[@oompaloompakia5702]

Yes, I love that one!

[@Mark-nh7zg]

Also confirms this part of her - she faces the temptation to stay every time she dies

[@cousinzeke4888]

@@Mark-nh7zg That final challenge she has to conquer to return cemented her as my favorite character.

[@Mark-nh7zg]

@@cousinzeke4888 Celestine is subtly one of the most grimdark characters in the whole setting, which is ironic because we also really know very little about her.

[@____________838]

And then the Inquisition shows up and purges the planet’s defenders for having actually survived a daemon incursion…

[@cristianbernal8009]

hey now. that's the Grey Knights specifically tbf.

[@kylethompson6721]

They survived one already, I believe

[@Sophie-h5b]

Sister stories alway pull at the heart strings.

[@darththesungod3578]

They need to send our beloved Angel to Armageddon to fight Angron. The Emperor's light burning Angron and igniting the loyal around them. We could even get a small conversation between Celestine (The Emperor) and Angron. Man would that be epic.

[@virn333]

Is angron capable of talking?

[@darththesungod3578]

Probably not. That's why the Emperor will clear his mind for the conversation. We get a look at the man/Primarch was supposed to be. How he would be without the nails. Then it just pisses Angron off and throws him into such rage and despair, the only thing that can stop him is Celestine with the light of the Emperor.

[@hammer1349]

From the lightning and the tempest our Emperor deliver us From plague, deceit, temptation and war our Emperor deliver us From the scourge of the kraken our Emperor deliver us From the blasphemy of the fallen our Emperor deliver us From the begetting of daemons our Emperor deliver us From the curse of the mutant our Emperor deliver us

[@theanathema3062]

Have I been summoned?

[@hammer1349]

@@theanathema3062 I mean you did give Celestine the will to fight on so I guess so

[@ciscornBIG]

I was raised catholic, started worshipping 40k from 12 to 40, went back. I wouldn't have started again were it not for 40k.

[@Gentlegiant11]

I appreciate your channel so much. You have the perfect voice for narration. Ngl been here more than once 😅

[@NewGuy2534]

Don't worry, knowing GW they’ll have Cawl make new and improved imperial saints.

[@utubrGaming]

"Night shall be thrice night over you, And heaven an iron cope. Do you have joy without a cause, Yea, faith without a hope?" -G.K. Chesterton, Ballad of the White Horse

[@toi_techno]

as an atheist I absolutely love the idea of hymn singing warrior nuns tearing up baddies

[@SN00PICUS]

Even an atheist can believe in collective psychic energy 🍻

[@Billmaster115]

I think, with this, the Emperor is demonstrating that he now understands faith.

[@informationyes]

I can just imagine at some point during her battles the scene from rocky played out but with the emporer "Dont lay down and die, you got to fight this guy hard, I didnt hear No Bell!"

[@tjorgensen8760]

It shows her humanity

[@7Acolyte]

This was a really cool video, Rho. I've never really given a second thought to Celestine before, but this has piqued my interest in the character.

[@something12344321]

Amazing I got goose bumps i deff want to read the story .

[@e21big]

Even the Imperial Saint hates Monday

[@henkdevrjes9640]

That tale will not be told a thousand worlds over. The world and everybody on it will be purged. That's the Imperium 4 ya.

[@jajordan2106]

depends on the inquisitor

[@henkdevrjes9640]

@JA Jordan na mate. The inquisitor will hit that exterminatus button faster than Tzeentch can weave fates.

[@DarthAlpharius]

She is a Greater Daemon of the God Emperor.

[@browniechann88blackie55]

I was watching an old video after years getting to know the lore you mention lion capturing kurze could the lion have annihilated the 2nd and 11th legions and captured their primarachs similar to curze

[@browniechann88blackie55]

If so could his journey through the warp be a infinite replay of it none of the primarch really mention their brothers could the lion not of felt betrayed at the reality

[@Observer-O]

WOOOOOO 40K

[@RootsLion]

dat was gdbut too short was gettin into that n dun waa .. hny

[@amichaelson10]

Do the ALL CAPS video titles really do anything to move the view count needle?

[@thebraveguy9808]

THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

[@DarkThagan]

Any other way should be illegal.

[@informationyes]

With the way the youtube algorithm appears to work maybe

[@cloaker4213]

wassup 1st :)

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

4th wassup

[@maxstr]

The book Celestine wasn't all that great. The author does a weird dual story thing where every other chapter alternates between Celestine talking to herself (herselves?), and some random battles she appears in. We don't learn anything about her other than she seems to have multiple personalities 😅

[@cousinzeke4888]

Didn't learn anything about her? Did we read the same book?

[@ah9580]

third

[@docvaliant721]

When I really think about the sisters of battle I recall before my army basic started we all had a minimum amount of push ups to start training. Females it was 3 push ups. Not many could even do 3 push up’s. Females make terrible warriors. I say this surrounded by Texan women.

[@drewrussell3721]

Bet you wouldn't say that to Celestine...

[@melvixen1943]

@@drewrussell3721 Or any other Battlesister. Not to mention that bolter s and freaking power armor are great equalizers.

[@DarkThagan]

But those women did not have Emperor's gene seed inside them.

[@melvixen1943]

@@DarkThagan Some of them might have given that his Mortal form had, in lore, children (the sensei) plus there are the Custodes. From Biles Genohounds we know that geneseed can propagate down the generations soooooo its a possibility.

[@lordhorg999]

Being from texas doenst make anyone bad ass or tougher lol theres tons of guns and cowboy wanna bees everywhere😂😂😂and i bet any ufc female figther would whoop your ass.because many weak ass dude are terrible warriors too.

[@zackc3368]

Your voice is like that f1 announcer walker. I wish you'd talk normal instead of trying to make it sound fancy