The Downfall of 2K Sports and The NBA 2K Franchise (Full Documentary)

[@BillsYT]

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[@maahir6348]

Great vid btw keep it up broski

[@BillsYT]

Thank you bro!!

[@jayewilliams5921]

Chris smoove just makes 2K looks so easy now lol

[@BillsYT]

Yeah man he’s the goat!

[@nothgu]

He makes hof look like rookie

[@kingrabb8001]

I used to think he was capping and had it on rookie

[@tygerthealmighty5982]

Chris Smoove Int all that bro. I eradicated him a quick match with Memphis Grizzled in NBA 2k16 💯

[@jayewilliams5921]

@@tygerthealmighty5982 who

[@DonDeDon445]

Ronnie is the kid who ended up with a amazing job cause his parents had the connections

[@gerosparrow7436]

I haven’t bought a 2k game since 17’. I wait for the free version they release every year. Not one cent from me, it’s a huge disappointment of a franchise. When someone new comes, i’m switching in a heartbeat

[@BillsYT]

Oh for sureeeeee

[@imsaintlive]

They don’t need ur bread trust me 😂 nd they get paid off u installing free demos too bruh😂

[@EternalNightingale]

2k 17 was so fun orange juice!!!! That and 16 my career story was pretty good, 18 was trash and haven’t touched my career since

[@smoke7792]

@@imsaintlive win win

[@skuppo1834]

Unpopular opinion abt NBA 2K: I honestly stopped getting the latest 2k cuz it’s just the same shit and I’ve grinded so hard to get to a 90+ ovr all just for the game to die a year later. In short wash, rinse, repeat. Same mypark same city and it just got me tired of grinding my ass off to get to a decent rating and a matter of a lot of shots not getting in

[@BillsYT]

Same with me! Once you hit 90*+ overall you don’t want to do it again

[@dubs1275]

this years grind was lowkey easy tho, especially 95-99

[@286mic]

This is the popular opinion actually

[@KingOfCleveland32]

Last 2k I bought was 2k17. They stopped listening to the community. The game was the best when we where all demigods and the park was busting. This is coming from someone who loved pro am

[@BillsYT]

Yeah man I really haven’t had fun in the game since 2K18 when I played with my friends

[@plugmanjohnson7456]

Next 2k21 has a new park and everyone is a demigod

[@DarealDougz]

Nah they started listening but its just ass execution and ass dribbling and ass.. everything😂

[@gloryboy69]

2K17 mad overrated

[@hori1k]

Yo same I stop playing after 2k17

[@whateverwavy]

2K16 will forever remain the Greatest 2K of All Time for me. Only game I got to Legend and a 99 overall in the park. 17 is when it started going downhill to me. Great video man!

[@BillsYT]

Thank you bro!

[@yuhgirlamy5731]

Huh 17 was a great game 18 when it got shit

[@sani5077]

@@yuhgirlamy5731 17 was the first year where the game was a downgrade from the previous year go back and watch 17 vids when it came out and you gonna see

[@sola4908]

No matter how shitty 2k17 was, at least the developers cared about the community.

[@sani5077]

@@sola4908 They we’re developing 2k18 for the next year so idk about that

[@CallMeKinfolk]

In any situation, the people have the power. If everyone would boycott 2k and just not buy it, they would lose money. This would cause them to make changes to the game to make people want to spend their money on the game again. They have no competition right now, so if yall keep buying it they gone keep repackaging NBA 2k18 and sell it to y'all year after year.

[@senpapi197]

making the game last for 2 years and actually putting effort in development and innovation to keep the playerbase hooked and when then dust settles it's time for a new 2k with more fine tuning

[@BillsYT]

I 100% agree! 2K needs to value its players more than their pockets!

[@ktillman2002]

Sadly and predictably, it became madden. No competition, nothing but roster updates and micro transactions.

[@sumdood8563]

Can we talk about the visuals too? The first game looked so colorful, and arcadey, while all the modern games are going for a more bland color pallet. Just take a look at the kinds of games Midway would make! Sports games today mostly look the same for me.

[@Ma1q444]

I miss the 2k10-13 those were the good days the soundtrack was amazing

[@arturcirilo7601]

For sure and the mycareer was better because it was simple, not a "series"...

[@JJGTheGamer]

I used to have so much fun playing 2K and now it’s just the same thing over and over, and it’s impossible to have fun without spending some money to get to 80+ overall and play park or maybe make it to the finals in my career

[@waylonjones6158]

They should do what their doing with their wrestling game right now, take a year off, maybe release nba live throughout that time until then, and listen to the community and hear their thoughts, so we can have a good basketball game

[@BillsYT]

I agree

[@rantingbeanie9522]

Nba live is owned by ea not 2k

[@Amb252]

Nba live isn't going to be good look at madden madden is absolutely ass 😂😂😂😂how do we expect Ea sports to make a good basketball game

[@BigMonke06]

This is an old video but watching this now, I think they need to stop trying to make the game realistic. That’s what’s driving people away along side the micro-transactions.

[@draqohs9966]

So honestly this video was great, although some basic flaws I saw were: You said it takes 100 to fully upgrade a player when it only takes 50. You also said from 19-20 not much changed gameplay wise, when in fact 2k got rid of all the dribble moves from 19 and gave us the worst year for dribbling yet. Other than that, great video quality and you’ve earned a sub.

[@BillsYT]

My bad I should have been more clear, I meant like the park, the builds and also you’re house

[@stanthebeatsmith]

last 2k game I played for real was 2k14 which I still boot up so I can have fun with mods. last 2k I bought was 2k19...for 5.99, all I saw were 1 star reviews 🤦🏾‍♂️😭

[@BillsYT]

It’s crazy because like IGN and some of those other big review websites gave 2K21 like 8/10 like what are y’all smoking

[@stanthebeatsmith]

@@BillsYT facts😂 its still early tho, lets see what happens im thinking maybe later 2ks might go back to their roots

[@BillsYT]

@@stanthebeatsmith I hope so tbh

[@yuhgirlamy5731]

Bru 2k14 was amazing 🤣🤣

[@bigd7722]

2k19 defense was trash 2k16 the best

[@davidfarmer7842]

Man really like how do they expect a rookie 2 to feel when he look up and see he going against an ss3, there need to be a skill based park

[@Aigospelsongs]

Great video. Pay to win games are annoying

[@BillsYT]

Thank you bro!

[@moackerman7868]

I remember coming home from school and watching jesserthelazer and cashnasty, they made me buy the game. Those were the good days

[@286mic]

So sad that 2k use to be made with so much love and heart.

[@brots3]

I spent more time making builds on 2k20 than I did actually playing it. I enjoyed it way to much

[@BillsYT]

Yeah man I haven’t played 2K in a while

[@justicefelipe4794]

24 y/o and Haven’t played since 2k18 but 2k13 was where 2k peaked for me personally.

[@justicefelipe4794]

2k11 probably the goat I was just ass back then tho haha

[@bailey32121]

My favourite game was 2k13 when it comes to my team, back then my team was new, didnt spend a penny on my team admitally using vc glitch to fund the squad but every year after got worse in a pay to win style and 2k18 was my final purchase from a few frustrating years of playing something that was changing for the worse

[@shawn4013]

This a really good video. You should make one about the down fall of madden.

[@gdn86]

This series is dead. It's never going to be good again, same as Madden, because there is literally no incentive to change. They are never getting rid of microtransactions, and will only find more ways to charge more money for more junk.

[@CamSeanoaTolls26]

2K sports it's located out here in the Bay Area. A bunch of my friends parents worked there in high school so all of us always used to get free copies and got to go to events. They used to treat their employees pretty well until they didn't. I think that's when the quality of the game started down as well

[@CamSeanoaTolls26]

Miss NBA live tho lol

[@SportsPlug-cp1eq]

I just downloaded 2k2 for dreamcast yesterday and it plays really well. You can just freely run around a screen without calling a play and there's more randomness in your shots like real life, it is pretty fun.

[@twhite22]

That dribble cheese HAS to be removed. The Stop and Go badge should be taken out immediately! You have people spamming the dribbling animations, going side to side being able to lose the defender EVERYTIME because of how fast they’re able to change directions! There’s not enough consequences for that. For example, stamina! Losing the ball! It’s CHEESE. The step back cheese needs to be taken out as well. I love playing rec but that stuff needs to be changed. It’s not realistic.

[@L1MMY_]

deserve more attention. subbed and liked 🖤 keep it up

[@BillsYT]

Thank you bro 😎!!

[@tomdeitch2305]

The reason you feel the game is so hard on you is because EA sports use DDA in all of their online gaming . DDA (Dynamic difficulty adjustment) is a patent they use in few ways to increase your engagement with their games. "DDA" in the most simple way I can explain it, is used to make the game more equal between a more experienced player and a less skilled player. This is done in order to close the skill gap and increase the engagement of both players by making the less skilled player less frustrated and to prevent him from quiting the game. On the other side, an experienced player may feel bored if he wins to many games so they make the game harder on him. The reason they involve this in their games is because all of their games includes extra transactions in packs and coins and dlcs and that's where they get a lot of their money from. When they use DDA they basically making your team play bad by decreasing their stats or increasing your opponents stats and vice versa. this psychological manipulation is used against bad players and even if you are a good player. When your player are not preforming the way you think they should you will think there is something wrong with your team or players, so the next thing you'll think about is opening up some packs. Those packs which you get from objectives or if you want a short cut you'll just pay. the chances of getting the players you want are also controlled by the algorithm. The sad thing is that it's a cycle. They won't let you win to much and they will keep you frustrated just in the exect right amount, so you keep on playing and engage with this system, the more you engage with the game the more likely you are to buy packs. If you feel your players miss clear shots on target, your passes are interrupted all the time, if your AI starts to act weird in defense and offense and no matter what you do, your player suddenly become slow, and out paced no matter which players you use, its because the system is scriptted so the other player will be favorite. It's important to note it goes both ways, and all players experience it, so if you feel you win the game easily its because your players are boosted, or you lose no matter what you do its because they change your setting mid play. if you will win too much they will try to make it harder on you. From gaming perspective it makes the game less satisfying to win because you feel you are being helped and very frustrating to lose because you feel the force of the algorithm against you. Pro players will still find ways to overcome this using "meta" knowledge of the games and "broken" methods from experience and still it will be very hard because of the scriptting, but to the average player he will find it very frustrating and it is made that way to make you more engaged and more likely to buy packs from their store and merchandise. Everything from the way the menus are designed to daily objectives and the packing rewarding system is part of the whole psychological method they use in combination with the DDA/scripting/handicapped system so you will be frustrated and change your team constantly. The streamers are part of it, even if they don't know about the whole system or bellive in the dda system, they get free packs which they promote on their streams to make you feel you have to get the same players. They also had a law suit on this subject which was dropped. The patent is on the internet and free to read. They use DDA against you. They use the packs system against you. They use streamers and marketing teams in millions of dollars. It's not the bags or the inconsistent gameplay , it's not your internet connection, it's not your squad, its not your formation, its not your tactics, it's not your skills, It's about money... It's geniusly evil. Most of the people just can't observe and connect all the dots or accept they have been gaslighted and frustrated and angry for years just because of money scheme. but it's really easy to understand if you are not too emotionally invested in this game.

[@NateBirdine]

You sir have a subscriber! Loving the videos

[@BillsYT]

😎 thank you my guy

[@officialthomasjames]

2k has become too mainstream. Even the soundtrack is just filled with whatever songs are popular at the time. Each game used to have its own personality with a unique soundtrack with songs most never heard, different menu screens, and new game modes. Now it’s just generic crap…

[@sola4908]

2k10-2k16 were the prime years of 2k.

[@Konphetty]

Ea needs to back to the market and compete man. 2k getting too comfortable

[@jackgoodwin125]

NBA 2K use to be fun now the game is greedy

[@JacionBryant]

this is a certified hood classic

[@ishyaboy2k24]

2K has the worst player base - toxic community.

[@Father.heroinn]

Another banger bills 💪

[@sjmemz7285]

I miss the old 2k after 2k16 it just went downhill

[@redninja7222]

bro ur content so fucking goated man youll be up there on day

[@BillsYT]

Thanks bro! I appreciate that a lot!

[@ethanennis8]

NBA Live is not more searched than 2K, it’s people looking for LIVE NBA GAME STREAMS

[@Michael-H23]

Lol madden is still more hated more its the same game with less features always asking for money. 2K is getting to that madden status very quickly.... plus I hate the limits career gives you and all the VC needed smh

[@BillsYT]

Yeah bro I agree I used to love 2k I used to spend mad money on the game and specifically packs on MyTeam but it was a waste since you couldn’t bring those collectible cards over to the next game

[@treytrent]

just a couple comments, but I largely agree with the video (and the rest of your content I watched) quick correction: 2K14 for the 360 was very, VERY similar to 2K13 as well, but the jump from 360 to XBONE (and how amazing 2K14 looked, and played when it worked) made it worth it. secondly, just an observation: goddamn Cash is really obnoxious lmao

[@BillsYT]

Very true to both comments lmao

[@yuhgirlamy5731]

Ya why tf did 2k14 on xbox look the same as 2k13

[@illford]

@@yuhgirlamy5731 possibly due to the fact the XBox One and 360 have different internal structures tech wise so it may have been harder to develop a new game, se thing happened to the 360

[@antdolla702]

great video. so please don't think i'm coming for you, just wanna open a dialogue. you said that players trying their hardest to win doesn't make the game fun. are players not supposed to try because they're better than others? (ie: i see these players aren't that good, so i'm not going to try to win anymore.) just wondering if you can elaborate a bit on that. thakns again and great video keep grindin

[@BillsYT]

my bad I meant like people will cheat to win and things like that, the competitive of the game is what makes it fun but when higher overall players only try to hunt down worse comp that makes the game suck

[@antdolla702]

@@BillsYT 💯

[@groovylue8774]

Which one was the one where you could do the old Jordan games? Like his classic games. He was on the cover just don't remember which one it was. Imo that was the best 1.

[@BillsYT]

I think 2k11

[@A_c_e_17]

Is that the one where you could play horse Nd shit that one was fire

[@finessewrld23]

Tbh I just stopped playing my career since 2k18 it’s just not been the same

[@mooslatt3599]

Setting up a competitive ass myleague, putting yourself in WITHOUT making a superteam or super player and actually developing like this is real basketball is actually really fucking fun. Playing on the highest difficulty for sure. As well as playing on Real Player instead of User Timing because you need actually basketball IQ to score. Been doing it since 2k9 and the times I played my career(18 and 19) I hated it. MyLeague is underrated.

[@zamap4278]

Been doing this since 2k16 on last gen, definitely one of the better underused ways of playing the game. But there are just some aspects of MyCareer that make your player feel more personal to you, for me personally is the reason why I still play MyCareer. Things like post game interviews when you break a record (which 2k21 took out for some reason), signature animations like emotes and celebrations, having more control over your development without the temptation of cheating. They both have their merits

[@JacionBryant]

i use play it for fun as a kid now i just play rec like all the old heads do

[@bubbathoughts8553]

This was on da 💴 💪🏾

[@BillsYT]

Thanks brodie

[@carltonashley7072]

THIS IS LIKE SOMEONE NOT PUTTING THE MONEY BACK iN THE BUSINESS.

[@ChazzTroutman]

GREAT VIDEO !

[@YoItsJRDN]

Did I just hear Sbmm.. in 2k????? Fuck nooo not after Call of Duty please no

[@whosBucks]

17 was truly the last good 2k we got

[@mofilms7281]

My fav 2k was 2k12 thats probably the best one! I have noticed over the years 2k has stopped caring about the player models, and the different modes in 2k. Especially now with 2k23 its like a telenovola its annoying

[@zionreid2537]

About the Kobe thing, they really didn't use Kobe's death for money, the fans were requesting Kobe Bryant to be on the Legends Edition of the game.

[@makaiahconte]

Gatorade boosts don't work for me in nba2k22 current gen and nba2k22 next gen I hav bought so many of them. turn off my playstation still not working why don't fix it

[@cutt3rpillar]

here before the video blows up.

[@BillsYT]

Goat energy!

[@posiayeni4335]

lets be real 2k hasnt really fallen off, its still more popular than its ever been and we still gonna buy it every year tbh. The game pisses me up sometimes but if 2k stopped making it il be sad as hell

[@myra-yves]

what you said is the reason they keep releasing this garbage, STOP BUYING THE GAME!

[@marsdalulu8167]

@@myra-yves but this is one NBA Games That We Had :/

[@myra-yves]

@@marsdalulu8167 and with that mentality it will continue to be! Stop supporting garbage and watch things change.

[@marsdalulu8167]

@@myra-yves bruh THIS IS THE ONLY NBA GAME WE HAD!

[@interviewwithdevin2902]

I still play 2k20 and only have it because it was free. And you can't do @ 6:13. I mean you can but the def will be on your hip. You know how frustrating it is that some moves are just useless

[@crazycasey1ify615]

2K used to be good but not anymore I just went back to playing NBA 2K11

[@imnotayoutuber8494]

I know I'm late to commenting but this is exactly the same thing happening to the NFL series games. Now it's just god-damned Madden.

[@racceflippa6723]

You should do live next

[@Samtember14]

2k15 when you can save and replay the play now mode to farm the VC for your MyPlayer. Then make multiple MyPlayers.

[@Michael-H23]

Definitely hate the pay to win gaming

[@knowethjc29]

I grew up watching Chris smoove, and only him on 2k, best 2ks are 2k10, 2k11, 2k12, 2k13, 2k14, 2k15. Then it stops.

[@younglobwedge]

2k11 12 were the best years for my player in my opinion. The most simple and fun.

[@mienchaos5344]

That isn’t the same park, but you could think that is anyway. Or something like that.

[@johngodfrey6925]

madden is more hated, but ronny legit telling straight faced lies before releases is def a reason to hate and be dissapointed.

[@jay7949]

The 2k community overrates 2k17, that shit was a mess

[@mastermind2246]

Bro what are you smoking that game was a banger. You probably didn’t got a hang of the transition

[@jay7949]

@@mastermind2246 you’re blinded by park

[@KinectIsHIGH]

how about Ronnie make a ranking mode in example : casual : old court,not that good daily,wheel,and an old 2k19 neighborhood. Hooper : current court, decent reward,and current gen neighborhood. Baller : next gen court,better rewards,and next gen city. PRO : The best Court from 2k16 - 2k23,Much better rewards,an awesome Big ass city with loads of mystery chests G.O.A.T : The court of all of 2k from 2k10 - 2k23,Awesome rewards,much much bigger city with more mystery chests The ranking system is gonna be good

[@Carl-hd5zp]

nba 2k21 myteam actually isn't that bad with the content drops and free cards but when they release packs u always get the worst cards which forces u to open more until u get what u want thats why i don't spend money on packs

[@javyionwilliams8528]

Damn every 2k before 18 was good 🤦🏾‍♂️ and in my opinion the only bad 2k games are 18 and 21

[@demonNthesn0w]

18-21 was bad. Era of exploit cheese

[@k.b.5079]

Yeah, I got 2k18 and it was so bad at first until I started buying coins to improve my player. It wasn’t a good experience, compared to something like 2k13 (my personal favorite)

[@Skybound.]

EA, 2K, Blizzard. They are the most hated video game companies. They are just so greedy, and don’t make good games anymore

[@jackmass4798]

with all the money that's coming in, there's no way that 2k will take a year off

[@nilecrocdile734]

I think that they should start reworking 2k21 by adding sbmm and free clothes

[@BillsYT]

they have to do something mam because I won't even waste my time buying the new installments

[@C.Mustard]

2k12 was hands down my favorite of all time in the series

[@tayyab4696]

2K f'ed up both Basketball and Wrestling games for life.

[@jesterzubrata]

What i hate about this video is.... is too short i will love 40 minutes of 2k downfall video😅😆

[@Woodchuck986]

You can do FIFA franchise episode

[@SolidShepard]

kinda ironic. nba fans miss ea making basketball games. and nfl fans miss 2k making football games.

[@chicago2k538]

How are we the number 1 pick in my career at 65 overall makes no sense

[@jonathanbrown3046]

I’m personally still playing My GM in NBA 2K16 😅

[@ohimmagic1702]

i agree with everything you sayed but the hair styles hair styles are free no money no vc freeee

[@linozone24]

It’s between fifa and 2k for most hated sports franchises

[@Unidentifiedmale]

This is why I stopped playing in 2017

[@IMHUSTLNGAMIN]

i remember glitching the vc coins making 250k vc a day

[@joshowens5949]

2k is a great franchise. I get to live out my dream as an NBA star! AND, they come out with a new game each year! 2k is a great franchise. Sure nobody else is making an NBA simulation game, but I don’t care I love 2k! I love how they brainwash us and make us believe that each game they put out is new and improved, even though it’s the same horseshit we have been playing for years! 2k is a great franchise. What if we all stopped buying their new games? What would we lose? Minor adjustment updates, updated rosters, a couple game modes, yeah that’s about it. What would they lose? Their entire income as a company. 2k is a great franchise. I can’t go anywhere else to live out my dream as an NBA star, and this game sucks But 2k is a great franchise right? It’s great for them, it’s a monopoly for god’s sake. They have our trust as consumers that we will all buy their next game to keep them afloat. They have our money which they put a very small portion of that to improvements in their next game. Stop buying 2k. They can’t survive without us. It’s not a great franchise for us, it’s a great franchise for them.

[@kadarbraxton4039]

Its the youtube era. How ironic.

[@jonathansoko5368]

I love mmorpg's and sports games ... Both genres are all p2w these days I hate it

[@Chiraqtown1]

Last 2k I brought was 16 cause the era of 2k11-16 was the best imo I got 20 for free n it’s decent but not an all day fun like the others I ain’t buying a 2k game unless it’s game shared to me

[@plane476lucky2]

I think madden is the most hated with 2k being a close second

[@neropanic1882]

2k is like the only game where you could have max 3pt stats and still miss 😂😂😂

[@joshowens5949]

This is what happens in a monopoly, they are free to do whatever the fuck they want without a care as to what the fan base thinks. Where else can we live out our dream of playing on an nba team? Nowhere other than the real world. I wish game developers were more ambitious because 2k could EASILY be over taken by another developer if they weren’t scared to challenge the monopoly that the 2k franchise has become.

[@illford]

Nah 2K definitely not the most hated sports game. That would be FIFA, community basically hates the game since they don't change anything anymore

[@BackwoodMoney]

I love my team literally would rather play that than my career never really liked the park unless I play wit friends but that’s rare

[@BIG_MISCELLANEOUS]

I think 2k 11 and 16 was the best in my opinion

[@TrezSooLit]

2k15 was the best and from there it started going down hill

[@GhostboyEms420]

19 is the only good game after 16 😭

[@venomxmambax7791]

Dude jesser got me into 2k too