The Downfall of Minecraft & Mojang... has begun?

[@AntVenom]

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[@shelly8275]

why genshin impact

[@RyanSoltani]

@@shelly8275 you need that sponsor somehow lol

[@LolaTheGardevoir]

Genshit Impact

[@shelly8275]

@@RyanSoltani ???? that game is none of interest to me

[@dazzle2008]

meow

[@toycat]

Totally agree, can confirm my marketplace team has access to development Minecraft. Really don't like how many features are exclusively in that version of the game, even when they could massively help the vanilla game.

[@arts7456]

Exactly this! Also hey toycat, didn't expect to see you on an AntVenom vid

[@dawaebu]

Hi Toycat

[@CookieDookie145]

yeah :(

[@thejuke1sout]

Hii

[@thejuke1sout]

Hello i'm Ibxtoycat, my favorite words from his channel

[@ElementX]

Thank you for featuring my developer edition video and spreading awareness about how mojang has treated me!

[@HeckYouEpically]

Minecraft

[@midnighthobbyt5161]

Fancy seeing you here

[@A_Knights_Legacy]

How did they treat you?.

[@StygianIkazuchi]

@@A_Knights_Legacy did you not watch the video? false copyright strike over music not used.

[@real4kGaming]

Hello element x

[@ecko]

The fact they are holding so many requested features on Bedrock Edition for this "Pay wall" marketplace partners is disgusting, even worse when we've asked for it for many years and they say "we don't know if it'll be possible" disappointed overall, thankyou for this video it was an eye opener.

[@CEDthe1st]

Hi

[@charleskato4005]

Omg ecko

[@antimojang2754]

Yo, I remember you covered about the dev commands in 1.2.13. Really such a shame that Mojang removed it.

[@commentbot9510]

It’s how it goes when a corporation that cares more about the money than the game is in charge. This happens to every game I like… At least Minecraft is single player and allows you to play on any version, so you will always be able to play the version you like.

[@rabies6418]

*laughs in curseforge*

[@Breeze926]

A minor issue I have with Bedrock is the presentation. The menus using a combination of blocky fonts and normal fonts and blocky assets and not blocky assets just feels sloppy.

[@ZxRipredxZ]

Also navigating menus are so slow. In Java i can search open and close chests super fast, in windows 10 edition though whenever you open a chest there's a certain amount of time you have to wait to close it, so it takes so much longer to look for items in storage

[@Breeze926]

@@ZxRipredxZ Yeah you kinda have to wait for the sliding animations which is annoying and unnecesary

[@MidRankedDeity]

@@Breeze926 mods

[@spacecatsftw]

@@MidRankedDeity bedrock doesn't have mods.

[@Sofalando]

@@spacecatsftw It does have, but they are either paid or harder to get than on Java.

[@420roachdoggjr]

I like how immediately after he praised Mojang they release a chat-report system that's going to doom many servers.

[@jaytb2005]

That’s 100% Microsoft though

[@poscat0x04]

@@jaytb2005 While that is highly likely, I don't think you can rule out the possibility of mojang doing it on their own with current information.

[@Echor_Covos]

@@poscat0x04 And considering the most recent addition of a profanity filter in be that considers literally only the English language I can be pretty sure this is not Mojang in Sweden's doing...

[@Nick-ue7iw]

@@poscat0x04 Microsoft has pushed similar systems in their other properties.

[@Gustoberg]

@@Echor_Covos YES! You can't say black people if you speak any latin derived language now (or you can, idk, but iirc it is also a slur in english)

[@z185284]

It’s a strange duality that Mojang/Microsoft thinks bedrock is the future of Minecraft, whilst at the same time treating bedrock players as second-class citizens.

[@osamalinbaden1996]

Like the fucking ussr

[@TarsonTalon]

Corporations are tired of serving customers, they want SUBJECTS.

[@XBGamerX20]

as a player who plays bedrock more its true plus bedrock has become a monstrosity with the marketplace and other dumb features because it doesnt have this legacy and serious look java has. I mean bedrock hasn't changed ever since the pe era either but seeing cringe stuff all over ruins the experience. and recently if you get into the snapshots the gui is changed. it looks good tbh but bedrock is taking a step forward to become corporate. conclusion: with bedrock having a launcher in the ms store and mojang giving you bedrock for free while getting java is a sign. I'm sure youve also seen in javas launcher telling you to get the bedrock's launcher. I've also heard in the past and its visible in the versions that they will try to make them as alike as possible, 2 years ago, once bedrock caught up with javas version numbering in 1.16 and the fact they're getting closer. I'm not gonna write an essay here but next step is to mix them or have cross plays. or in the worst case, stop updating java just like they did with legacy/console editions

[@orangeguy5374]

@@XBGamerX20 Bruh if they stop updating Java edition there will be riots in the streets But tbh if the modding community remains active they’d probably be able to deliver better updates than Mojang

[@XBGamerX20]

@@orangeguy5374 I dont want it to stop receiving updates and neither want for bedrock, after all it's the same game. I only want minecraft to keep its legacy and og look and purpose and not become corporate cause of Microsoft. and the legacy edition of ps4 should have been continued as a second edition after bedrock for ps4 xbox Nintendo etc. in fact some people considered console editions of the game as it was java edition's clones for those consoles back in the day. I wouldn't think it would be that hard to update 3 editions of the game therefore but compatibility of each console is a problem and that's why the push bedrock.. despite the fact that legacy editions were written in the same engine as bedrock.

[@johnclark926]

It’s genuinely insane that anyone at Mojang thought it was a reasonable idea to indefinitely support two separate versions of the same game, on top of working on spin-off games at the same time

[@shalvei_]

if they tried to they could pull it off with a big enough developer team, you have to realize this is the most popular game of all time

[@Docdoozer]

I'm pretty sure the development of at least the newly announced Minecraft Legends is outsourced to another studio, I only read that somewhere though so don't quote me on that.

[@p3num6ra]

When looking at the application for becoming a Java developer for Java Edition they claim to only have 15 developers working on the game.

[@azeria1]

@@p3num6ra bruh how wonder they struggle to put features in updates there’s only 15 of them for the biggest game in the world 15

[@Mernom]

@@azeria1 they don't have 15 layers of management leaning on them from above and generally making a mess of things?

[@zielcomedy188]

I miss the 4J Studios version... Anyone with me? The UI was so clean and the minigames were just so authentic and fun...

[@SuperDuperSeb]

I exclusively played that version on my 360 and I have sooo many memories. Bedrock feels soulless in comparison

[@shaneseem-sin3856]

They should've let 4J take control of bedrock edition after the better together update

[@renwasaman8840]

the 4J studios was so much fun, I remember the PVP maps.

[@PBST_RAIDZ]

shouldn't have made bedrock in the first place should have just stayed with xbox one edition as it literally does everything better.

[@JasonSteel-hk2tx]

@@why-you-readingNot just that, the 4J studio versions are more optimized and literally FEEL better to play. Bedrock on Series X feels like complete garbage in the controls and physics department.

[@rattle_me_bones]

I'll be honest. When we didn't get worldgen for 1.17, I got it. Worldgen as pretty as 1.18 is not easy to code and breaking the update into two parts was probably the smartest decision in the long run. When we didn't get the Deep Dark for 1.18, it felt a little off, but I chose to wave it off - they may have had big plans for the biome (to their credit, they did - and it looks great). But some of the features cut from 1.19 have zero excuse, since it's honestly such a comparatively smaller update.

[@richardpike8748]

I agree with this too. I can accept with 1.17 and 1.18 how they delayed their development for the betterment of the content. ("Better done well than done fast".) But 1.19... \(.-.)/

[@aAtom596]

I feel the exact same way. I think putting off the deep dark was in the end fine since it became so much better than in the original trailer. 1.19 was just full of excuses and stupid lies as to why they couldn't put more than the minimal effort into their game.

[@richardpike8748]

@@aAtom596 Yeah which is strange considering it seemed as if they put maximal effort into the previous two updates. I wonder if they feel there's some quota to put out major version updates

[@gracethestaffseargent95]

Totally agree

[@anothermicrobe755]

Tbh I feel like it's more a matter of managing expectations than actually releasing more content. There have been plenty of small updates in the past, and 1.17 and 1.18 were both huge on their own. So the amount of content we ended getting is pretty in line with what we've seen before; if they'd just been more realistic about what to show off none of this would be an issue.

[@MuzikBike]

5:48 Hilarious fact: due to the bad chunk blending, half of this illager's face is sagging. Coincidentally enough, one of the signs of an oncoming stroke is one half of the face dropping. We can conclude from this information that Bedrock Edition is coded so poorly that the mobs within are subject to serious health problems as a result.

[@Sleeper_6875]

Ah so that’s what causes the random player deaths, strokes

[@iowanwendigo746]

@@Sleeper_6875 It's all coming together now...

[@omarpikm2101]

Family Guy Season 6 Episode 8

[@Nugcon]

@@Sleeper_6875 Skyrim heart attack mod

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

Another fun fact, when boating on ice you can see the ice becoming filled with triangles that tear and rip the texture depending the texture pack.

[@BlockFacts]

I would LOVE to be able to use those developer tools for making videos. Java Edition is the only option for recording because it has BASIC FEATURES like spectator mode (which is in the dev version), F3 debug screen (which is in the dev version), and many other quality of life things (that are also in the dev version)! As of October 2021, the Minecraft Marketplace had made $350 MILLION in revenue. Surely they can use some of that money to add a few more quality of life features. One argument is that the features would need a lot of polish to be in the main game. If that's the case, they could easily allow these features to be togglable in Minecraft Preview! I think that would be a great compromise, making Bedrock Edition way more popular among KZbin creators. My 5 year personal Realm is on Bedrock Edition and I can't count the amount of times I've said "I wish we could convert this to Java Edition." We've lost so many pets to a bug where if any mob can move across a chunk border, it will just despawn eventually. We can't convert the world without losing our inventories and entities, so we're stuck on the buggy version of the game. Even my famous skin is glitched! It's made in the built-in character creator, where you can't change the colour of clothing. My shirt got randomly changed to blue one day and it's been like that ever since. (until last week where all my bedrock skins got randomly deleted for no reason, another annoying bug. rip glitched blue shirt skin) I'm worried Microsoft bundling Bedrock and Java is a step towards phasing out Java. If that happens, the game is not gonna last much longer. Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[@victorhugofranciscon7899]

Played a lot of Minecraft java, still have yet to find game breaking bugs, the game's level of polish is what makes me still play, if java is phased out, I would quit playing for good, the hell not I will be playing that buggy mess that is bedrock edition.

[@gela-sj7uk]

True

[@xlmtap1192]

No problem. I'm always open to new points of view.

[@fangyboi295]

Spitting facts

[@godsunit]

its true, java is being phased out within a few years. Lets hope that bedrock fixes itself up

[@hatered6434]

I remember in the past when we feared Microsoft taking over Minecraft and we were scared they would ruin the game. Well we are here now.

[@water654]

Same. I really miss the old Minecraft. );

[@GAMER32231]

For now…

[@ninjafrog6966]

mojang. it’s mojang ruining the game

[@Avetho]

@@ninjafrog6966 Microsoft. Its Microsoft ruining the game, just as they have done to literally everything they own. It started with them not doing enough, which resulted in Windows just stacking patches onto its kernel like a jenga tower over the decades, where you have files dating back to the early 1990s still on newly installed Windows 11 systems, and now they overreact, pushing everything to online commercialized everything and following far-left politik crap in an effort to stay "relevant" to the tiny minority and ignore the vast majority who are starting to mass-migrate to Linux distros and abandon all Microsoft products. I'm gearing up for the move to Linux Mint and preparing to do so before Windows 12 can be forced on me. Its always been a Microsoft problem, when Notch left the team as Microsoft geared up to buy Mojang and they took over everything, there were already visible cracks in the good old foundation of the game, the pressure of changing public opinion and whatnot began the push to commercialize it and then the deal was sealed with -the devil- _Microsoft_ and its been overall downhill since then despite getting some really nice things, its like they gave us time to get comfortable and then they started turning up the heat, pushing more and more commercialization and whatnot until the players start abandoning the game, wringing money out of the players as much as possible until all that's left is the ruined husk of modern Minecraft and disillusioned players crowding around older versions of the game, and then a 3rd party will start up and start developing the last good version they could crack into the code of and rebrand it so Microsoft doesn't sue them to death, and the old playerbase will slowly converge and support that version until it gets big again in a renaissance of Minecraft and then Microsoft will notice and try to either claim it or kill it as usual for such a greedy all-controlling dominating gigacorporation.

[@Beethovenus]

I feel like it's important to note how "concept art is not a commitment" is a very shoddy excuse when the context of the showcased concept art is that it would be a new feature. Obviously, just showcasing concept art does not mean it's a commitment--but you need to have clear communication if that's the case. Say "this is concept art, which may not indicate an upcoming feature" INSTEAD of "we want to make some biomes feel more alive, here's the birch forest." Communication is an important, and not often understood, element of game design and development--whether that's internal communication among multiple parties, or between developers and their playerbase.

[@snugget23452]

honestly that excuse felt like gaslighting

[@SemiHypercube]

Literally one of the cruelest bait-and-switches they could've done

[@christianred9730]

Probably communicative problems. But as long as they don't keep repeating this constantly happening issue, they can keep the fan base positively supporting them.

[@billross9132]

@@christianred9730 nup theyreve done this before, nether update they said they'll show only some biomes but proceed to show all the biomes ( basalt delta was added later due to fan request ) hell I think even the cave update suffered the same. Minecon def has issues when it comes to rehearsal and clear Information presentation

[@testerwulf3357]

@@billross9132 I think one of the major issues is they lack decent management of that stuff or decent communication with each other..the higher ups get too excited and show us a bunch of stuff only for them to either spoil everything and force the devs to create extras (just so we have something new to play with for update that wasn't spoiled) or they show us a bunch of stuff only for the devs after to say they don't have time to add them or whatever else so they get cut. It honestly sucks. We need clearer communication here!

[@gnomehead2073]

I think it's Hilarious how Mojang is always complaining about how hard it is to develop Java edition, yet they actually have less features and more glitches on the version of Minecraft they developed from the ground up in the language of their own choosing.

[@dontbother2455]

They say that as an excuse to they have thousands of developers and don't even give some uff they say they'd give like bundles I logged on to 1.18 thinking they added bundles made a new world and made a bunny farm and then when I went to make a bundle it didn't even exist they dont add new features just the basics they added in 1.19 about 30 different things a new tree a few new blocks a mob a boss like mob and a new biome if you will that's it same for 1.18 I love Minecraft but if I'm going to dedicate my time to it I need to know I can expect what I was shown and expect new stuff

[@lubraethecat]

The reason for that isn't necessarily the difficulty for mojang. Mojang only has full control over Java edition. Bedrock is under control of Microsoft. I'd imagine that Microsoft doesn't care enough about the game itself to let mojang fix the bugs and add features rather than improving the income from the marketplace. Features are added scarcely over time to keep players hooked and purchasing more marketplace items. Only when a big update hits, is there really going to be major additions. Something like spectator mode for example is being rolled out very slowly. Meanwhile it was released on Java around 2015. They're probably taking so long because Microsoft wants other features to be worked on that are more likely to make more money. Of course there also is that probable lack of communication ant talked about. Microsoft probably let them work on the update to get everything done as quickly as possible so they can bugfix things that matter to Microsoft (e.g. marketplace). Tldr: Microsoft has full control over bedrock. If they don't think they make a profit from something, it's a lot less likely to be done.

[@maxseemton641]

It's because they have been told to lie about it by Microsoft

[@lubraethecat]

@@maxseemton641 lie about what Exactly? That Java is hard? Programming in Java is a pain in the back. Minecraft Java edition is already a huge cluster fuck of code because of how notch began Programming, so having to consider that when Programming new features and or bugfixing is most certainly going to make it difficult. Additionally, Microsoft has no control over Java edition, so it would be rather weird if the Stockholm devs listened to Microsoft to complain. Which in its own would be pretty petty from Microsoft. Now, chances are I misunderstood you, considering you said "it", which could mean many things, so if I did would you mind clearing that up?

[@royaleghostgg]

Is it just me or those anyone feel like java is like easier mod edition but for bedrock is like harder mod edition. Idk, what you think?

[@f8keuser]

- Listen to the community more. - Stop over promising on features that you can't deliver. - Stop over hyping every update. - Follow through on promises. - Don't show the community amazing art and say what's coming and not deliver. - Don't show everything at Minecon. - Work as a team more. - Communicate with the community more. - Each update doesn't have to out beat the previous update. - If you theme an update then follow through with the theme you set... don't go jetting off sky high only to run out of fuel seconds in. That's all I have to say.

[@SirToaster9330]

maybe instead just stop updating the game?

[@rogoznicafc9672]

they arent overpromising... they are underpromising with how little stuff they add compared to modders and then dont even add all the announced stuff

[@donovan6320]

@@rogoznicafc9672 modding is different... A lot less has to be considered when creating a mod for a game. However, in Minecraft vanilla things have to be put up to a higher standard of quality and consideration because it's likely to be around for pretty much ever.

[@jaytv25]

STOP ENSLAVING THEM

[@iicaryin]

yep, i agree

[@tinapandey156]

I hate they didn't add sharks "because some kid might approach a shark or kill it" it is just stupid that some kid might reach the middle of ocean to approach a shark, they could have added variants(whale sharks,white sharks etc.) just like panda and make them neutral but depending on the variant they will attack or be passive.

[@gagejohnathan9641]

I posted in a random comment section a suggestion for how to do sharks: Start passive, and when anything that can take damage in range of the sharks sense/smell, it will immediately aggro and attack everything in site.

[@tinapandey156]

@@gagejohnathan9641 that is actually what happens with shark in real life!

[@gagejohnathan9641]

@@tinapandey156 *_exactly_*

[@Toastcat890]

I doubt that was the reason why I wouldn’t be surprised if they started charging for mobs that they either removed or didn’t get voted in.

[@realkekz]

It's honestly kind of amazing that the 2009 Java spaghetti code manages to be more stable and bug free than the specifically intended more stable version

[@jaysecond42]

Java Minecraft for life

[@ElMexa203]

@@jaysecond42 maybe

[@oNovais]

Yeah but java is heavier, bedrock run smoothly even in shi*** smartphones. But for sure java receive more care.

[@TVAProject]

@@oNovais Bedrock runs absolutely horribly on my 90hz phone

[@jaysecond42]

@@oNovais who cares Minecraft rose from Java and PC not phones

[@pphead9960]

I think the sad part is, is that I think deep down we all saw this coming. The first thought everyone had when they heard Microsoft was buying minecraft was that there would be micro transactions

[@FlightlessAviator]

That's not the point, at least the marketplace allows easy to get "mods" (Although calling them that is like calling bedrock chunk blending good)

[@michaellautermilch9185]

Get your mods elsewhere for free! Bedrocktweaks is 100x better than anything Microsoft wants your money for in Marketplace.

[@willcarroll9762]

Minecraft peaked in 2018ish imo. It’s almost too complex for me rn, I haven’t played in a while but it just seems drastically different now

[@yol_n]

@@FlightlessAviator dude is probably a bot making the most generic comment ever

[@islocal8750]

@@FlightlessAviator the bedrock addon hate is unreal is these comments bro addons are literally just as capable as java mods

[@coolcatcartoons]

Minecraft is forgetting where it came from. The whole idea of Minecraft that was so heavily preached in the early days was that it’s meant to be a canvas in which you can do anything. Endless opportunities; anything you want to build, if you work hard enough, you can build it. But these values do not remain when some have to pay for maps, Mojang introduce a terrible reporting system, and ‘upcoming’ features are dropping like flies.

[@mrdummyguy]

And on top of that for some reason Mojang thinks this is an educational game. Minecraft was never about raising awareness of endangered species in the real world. All it was is creativity and building things. Don't take me wrong, I think It's cool when they do that but they definitely lose their senses. Just look what they did to the fireflies. This trillion dollar company (Microsoft) is trying hard to teach kids according to their values. And I think that's dangerous.

[@theotank2439]

Exactly. Microsoft is taking all of the inefficient features of Minecraft like creativity and community, and replacing it with an efficient and well run system of having microtransactions instead of mods, and a report system that can give the appearance of Minecraft community being completely safe and kid friendly. Top it all of with a loyal playerbase (young children who don't care about any of these things like an older player will) and Microsoft has the formula that will keep Minecraft pulling in tons of profits for an indefinite amount of time.

[@coolcatcartoons]

@@theotank2439 You’re completely right. They’re overpolishing it. Part of Minecraft charm in the early days was it’s daft and whacky approach to stuff. We’d never even have the creeper if Notch hadn’t gone ‘nah I’m keeping the broken pig model’.

[@leosebastian1241]

Underrated comment

[@poke_onix9235]

More like "dropping like fireflies" amiright

[@ToastyEggs]

Seeing huge Minecraft creators like AntVenom publicly speaking out against Mojang’s poor actions is really motivating and gives me a small bit of hope that change will happen.

[@Aesthics]

Java: wants to be a mom-and-pop Bedrock: wants to be a corporation that owns mom-and-pop stores

[@DaGreatest_]

hey dude pls watermark your videos, you and hapico are famous for having videos stolen by short spammers

[@nerdgeekcosplay909]

I own both editions …

[@LukewarmFoxxo]

@@nerdgeekcosplay909 we all do now.

[@MD5Gaming]

lol

[@JackAttack64]

@@LukewarmFoxxo wdym?

[@danese1636]

Part of me feels like, for the firefly thing, that the decision to remove it from the game was so last minute, that the marketplace development version already had the features added and released just about the time they chose to not add them to the game. If anything, this highlights the internal lack of communication between the various groups working on Bedrock edition, and that in and of itself is a huge issue for any game.

[@danese1636]

Then again, I don't have any dates of reference for the announcement and the video recording date that included these fireflies.

[@vitorgabrielgomesrodrigues]

While that probably is true, the Minecrat: Developer Edition uses an older build of the game. What could've also happened is that it's just an old build that had fireflyes.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

Yea. They should have added them to the game instead of pulling stupid shit.

[@StarryInkArt]

AGREED! That makes no sense. Hopefully we get it in a future update :(

[@larniieplayz6285]

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 agreed

[@RaysWorks]

Would be awesome to have access to more building features for Bedrock Edition! ATM it's utterly painful to do anything technical there in creative.

[@Aperoo]

e

[@jacobtinkle9686]

Hii

[@9xbt]

I know.. :(

[@bn6963]

Just use the Java version then?

[@Nik-6675]

Hay Ray love your videos.

[@sir.sherman-8925]

As a Bedrock Content Creator( No, not on the Marketplace), I have the use the regular creator options in Bedrock Edition. That means all I can do is get messages if something is wrong with my code. Bedrock Edition also has limited options for modifications, while Java Edition has much more polished modification tools, like Fabric and Forge.

[@finadoggie]

I find it incredibly interesting that the Bedrock version has so many more issues than Java edition despite Java edition being made on decade old Java code that I have to assume has an amateur level foundation

[@iClone101]

The foundation of Minecraft Java's code was the passion project of a single individual, while Bedrock was built from the ground up using a far superior game engine and with the backing of one of the largest tech companies in the world. There's no excuse except that Microsoft put development priority on the microtransaction store, and neglected to keep the game in a stable state.

[@antimojang2754]

What is really ironic is that bedrock has a developer menu unlike java and many more useful tools

[@vizthex]

ikr, like holy shit, how does that happen lmao

[@bluenightfury4365]

@@vizthex Corporate greed, always ruins everything it touches.

[@vizthex]

@@bluenightfury4365 indeed.

[@KILRtv]

This really opened my eyes to what is happening behind-the-scenes of Java and Bedrock. It's a shame, but Bedrock has potential. Now it looks like any other game released by big corporations that focus more on shareholders than the quality of their products.

[@sls12III]

Thank Microsoft for that.

[@keeganwilson4865]

If you play on pc you can just use Java, which is better than bedrock in my opinion.

[@thanasis-_-]

and that problem is worse in America

[@imonke5303]

:(

[@sephtisrising7233]

as a java user for my whole life bedrock can suck one

[@heck_bird]

i think the great thing about legacy console edition was the fact that it just worked, the performance was great and you got just about as much world customisation as you did with java (e.g. Amplified worlds, custom super flat) the game was also very polished and 4j studios updated the game very often, and if there was a bug that really bothered you,, it would have been gone within 2 weeks at most. It also innovated a lot because it introduced the crafting system that gave you the recipes for items (this was before the green book). And another thing i want to talk about is the dlc. Now i’m not a fan of the idea of buying skins and maps but for the dlc in legacy console, you got a whole library of great skins for each skin pack that you bought, and they were at a reasonable price. And the maps were also great because you could try them out before you buy them, (though you weren’t allowed to save the world). And in every one of the skin packs there were at least 2 skins you could use free of charge. But bedrock suffers in all of these categories, it’s very buggy, the dev team is lazy, the customisation is very barebones, the performance is terrible as it’s designed for mobile devices, and the dlc mostly sucks. So in conclusion, Legacy console edition was superior to bedrock in almost every way.

[@igameidoresearchtoo6511]

I agree, mojang has become gaijin. except they suck in everything other than the grind.

[@homework8969]

Yea, even stampy made a video on the pros and cons about bedrock (because he had to port his world from xbox to bedrock) and he said the performance is bad on bedrock and that the legacy was more stable.

[@lil_savage446]

Tbh, the only reason i dont still play on legacy is because there's no fov slider. I straight up get a headache with how close i feel to the blocks, but other than that, i wouldnt mind being a whole bunch of updates behind

[@EnoEso]

i miss legacy. they should add a "dog" disc or something

[@igameidoresearchtoo6511]

@@lil_savage446 As if you will feel much of a difference with how little the game changed since 2013.

[@nightfall4572]

You'd think with so many Minecraft content creators making videos like these the Bedrock team would get their act together, this has been going on for years yet nothing has changed.. I hope they get their act together soon

[@silentwisperer]

Hopefully mojang takes this feedback and acts on it, they have a good thing going but really need to work on these issues and get some solutions going 😅

[@SemiHypercube]

hi silent

[@justkidding7054]

We hope so.

[@christianred9730]

Then again we shouldn't push them. It takes time for the highest of quality bug fixes and problem solving. I just hope they are using that time wisely.

[@omnibluue1527]

Hi silent 😃

[@jmacku35]

Yeah well most are bedrock so noone cares

[@Ponteiiro]

What my audience (bedrock players) complain the most is the treatment that the Bedrock Edition version has, for example: In The Wild Update you can put water inside the mangrove roots to use for your gameplay (compact cobblestone generator), there is also the "sink in the mud" feature, these 2 are not available for the bedrock version and Mojang seems to think it's ok to delay these features. I know it's little things, and Mojang is working hard on parities in the latest versions, but this has happened so many times in the last few years that now the Bedrock public is angry at Mojang for any feature that comes to Java Edition and not to the Bedrock Edition.

[@Ponteiiro]

But what bothers me the most is the treatment they have with the community that produces Addons and are not their partners, because this developer version and other resources that Mojang makes available to their partners could be very useful for creators who are not, there are fantastic content created by 3/4 people and they at most ask you to go through a link shortener, on the Marketplace most are content with low quality and focused on making money, as a company I don't think it's wrong for them to want to make money and focus their resources on partners so that they can do this, but it's sad to know that there are creators (non-partners) who could make even better content if Mojang looked at Them more.

[@edwiniscool2023]

no one asked you

[@nuesoup3985]

When the Xbox series x launched minecraft was supposed to have a ray tracing feature and it still isn’t there long after the release. Things like this is really frustrating to me as a bedrock player, the game feels a bit neglected in a way.

[@nnnik3595]

There are also a few features that you get in bedrock that aren't in java. We aren't too mad about it though.

[@MD5Gaming]

I agree

[@thekb3035]

I agree with your statements. Just look at 1.19, people were excited at first but the hype immediately died down and now they just think "Wow, it exists". No wonder some call it the "Mild" update, it was underwhelming considering all the false promises.

[@watchrandomuser395onyoutube]

I miss bundles

[@msiio]

plus, some 1.19 features are missing in the bedrock editions, you cannot sink in mud and ancient city structure is outdated.

[@McFwoupson]

The new chat rules and report system being implemented on java are horrible.

[@beru22-i8q]

@@watchrandomuser395onyoutube And archeology too. I think that should be on minecraft DLC. If they were add it (I'm talking about the bundle rn), it would make the gameplay a lot easier.

[@playervalley]

@@McFwoupson true, it'll especially impact anarchy servers like 2b2t

[@Time_To_Tickle]

Thank you for speaking up about this. Honestly im done with "bedrock moments" i have lost so many levels of xp and one time lost a fully decked out character with 5 shulker boxes and an elytra because enderpearls decided they didn't wanna work. I have also noticed any bug slightly benficial to the player in bedrock gets patched out super quickly. Its honestly a shame some devs working on bedrock are unwilling to fix bugs that can just kill you, and your motivation and drive to keep playing the game for a while, when any bug that a player could slightly benefit from gets patched as soon as possible.

[@kuridragon9099]

the issue was that, when mojang needed some criticism, people riled up and began defending them as if mojang were an indie dev group, and in time they became very comfy with barely doing the minimum because they knew fans will just take it without complains

[@tefnutofhoney2832]

Thats not unique to mojang. Basically every game company replies on their permavirgin ultrafans coddling them to shield them from any criticism. Look at modern pokemon for that

[@mechamedegeorge6786]

This is so fucking true, i hate how every single thread criticizing them becomes a hive mind mindlessly defending mojang

[@Matthew73567]

Mojang has delayed features in the past like the texture update and technically the Allay aswell, I think the reason Mojang got backlash this time around was because they weren't careful about what they showed at minecraft live and hyped up features they couldn't get out in time.

[@SirToaster9330]

No, that's not what's happening here. If any other game company did this no one would care, but the game devs are facing death threats over 2 pixels and everyone who brings it up is just shot down as a "fanboy"

[@inceptoadepto6055]

@@SirToaster9330 If any other game company did what mojang does they would be violently hated until the last day of their sad existence.

[@ethanbunch3274]

I've started questioning Mojang ever since the whole archeology thing. It just didn't seem like Minecraft and although I don't think many people were crying when it wasn't added it's clear to us that they're starting to slip up in their creative department. I was so excited for firefly simply for an environmental factor because ever since the 1.16 update I love particle effects and as a builder it really brings builds to life but now they're not adding them because frogs can't eat them?? That's like saying cookies are getting removed from the game because they kill parrots It's just dumb! They can't think of the fact that maybe frogs don't eat fireflies?? I think they are slipping up their priorities and that they really just need to focus on making the game better and doing proper parity changes. I still can't believe that I can't customize my shield in bedrock edition but meanwhile Java gets the ability to put named banners on their fucking maps! Both versions clearly have their own ups and downs but Java has very important features that would be amazing to have on Bedrock!!

[@closier2]

Honestly, 1.17 and 1.18 were MASSIVE updates on their own. Either they don't want to overwhelm us with content, or they're just tired after all that. 1.19 was a pretty good update in it's own anyways, I don't know why people are complaining. We got killer swamps and an entire ancient city where the strongest boss (by far) lays dormant.

[@train123z]

@@closier2 1.17 was nowhere near a massive update on its own. We basically just got blocks. 1.18 was massive, but lacked the Deep Dark, which was what most people cared about anyway, considering the novelty of "big cave" and "big mountain" got boring fast considering there just wasn't anything there to obtain. And now, with 1.19, most of the features that people wanted and were explicity promised got cut. But at the very least, we go the Deep Dark two updates late?

[@zynstein]

@@closier2 Because they promised birch forest improvements and turned around on it and fireflies using really weak excuses for both. Their statement of "concept art doesnt mean we will make the thing we're showing" sets a precedent for the future as well that means we really cannot guarantee any features

[@ethanbunch3274]

@@closier2 No you're definitely right! I do like the updates we got and I'm sorry if it seemed like I was complaining about them overall. I just wanted to point out that there are many things that they could fix with these updates and I feel like they've somewhat mishandled the bedrock versus Java thing. Also the miscommunication on features including the archeology update. It's always bothered me that they fully plan to release a feature and then go back on it and it seems like they've done that quite consistently. They've given us good content I just hope they're not starting to slip up

[@PK-bn2pg]

@@train123z cry more 10 year old

[@phoenixcraft9940]

When Microsoft bought out Mojang, this is something I wholly expected in the future. It took a few years, but it's here - corporatization. The board tells you you're spending too much money on bug fixing, so you stop fixing bugs. They say you're not making enough money, you need to be aggressive with your moneymaking. Mojang is no longer an indie company. They're a subsidiary of a trillion-dollar tech company. In trillion-dollar tech companies, it becomes really hard to make any sort of progress on features - you need approval for everything. "Hey, we want to add fireflies" and if the board says no for any slew of reasons, it's a no and you cannot add that feature. Even if you've already developed it. This is the issue that every single corporatized game studio faces. Delayed releases, massive bugs, and more can be seen in titles like No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk, Elite: Dangerous Odyssey, Fallout games, etc. This is just how corporatized games function. It seems to me that Mojang employees are fighting back by continuing to support Java edition, but eventually these problems will increase over time, and once Mojang doesn't make as much money, the subsidiary will be shut down and replaced by another company and other game. This is the inevitable truth when it comes to game development.

[@4dblock314]

Back then the video game market went crushing down. Then it went up with amazing games and later on companies started making games with an artistic integrity. And now I think we are going to see that crush again with corporations believing marketing is better than design and quality. History repeats I guess.

[@NeoDeXs]

​@@4dblock314 as long as they make money, they'll keep testing the waters about how far they can get away with, and no crash will occur.

[@drolemem]

At least no man's sky got their shit together

[@therealpyroland]

no mans sky really? that wasn't due to corporatization. that was due to the dev team having poor pr and a small team working on a large project.

[@phoenixcraft9940]

@@therealpyroland By corporatization I don't exactly mean another company is controlling them - just that someone is forcing them to act like a corporation would need to with their endless series of checks and balances that tend to slow them down - in this case, being controlled by investors. In the case of No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk, the fans were part of the reason the games flopped - people kept complaining about how long it was taking to release the game, so both company's investors had to force the game to be released or threaten to drop the project. This resulted in a buggy and unfinished mess, quite obviously.

[@brenzielim6900]

4:55 This happened to me too! I found a random village structure in the ocean. It had no villagers, nor did it look like a normal village. Later that same direction I found a pillager outpost looking like all the blocks had gravity.

[@PippenFTS]

I wouldn't be too excited about the combined bedrock-java purchase they made available. This could be evidence of a first step in a years or decade-long strategic thaw from Microsoft with an end goal of getting completely rid of Java that many have suspected to begin to happen at some point.. Nothing's ever free, there's always a cost, even if its way down the line. I hope I'm wrong.

[@venom_ftw9316]

Shoot.... Now I'm scared

[@fontajo]

I hope you’re wrong too! I want to be seeing Build the Earth videos in retirement home!

[@RollingSkyPlayer]

it shouldnt happen

[@leonardxy3119]

"nothings ever free, there's alwayss a cost" - Thats what i thought. But i personally think they couldve done this combined thing as a "compensation" for beeing *forced* from Mojangaccounts to Microsoft. Still you could be right with getting rid of java.. which would be very sad cause i played this game for 10+years now and Bedrock just sucks xDD

[@raffyondianoaplkaka0q0lmlp31]

🚗😘Ynsjns Sns

[@Coconut.Capybara2]

I am overwhelmed with how wrong Mojang has treated things. I had to switch accounts, lose all my capes, and progress. All because I couldn't un-migrate. And get this, all reports given to Microsoft Support? Ignored. Incredible.

[@Olivia-W]

Did you lose access to your original email account? I know it's no help for what happened, but I do recommend always setting up recovery for your email, to limit getting locked out in the future.

[@Coconut.Capybara2]

@@Olivia-W No, I just wanted a different microsoft account connected to my java account. sadly that is not possible. I already made a recovery, thank you though.

[@Jasuya]

Me too I also lose all of my capes and worlds and didn't think of anything of it just some regret because i was young back then and i said to myself nothing is permanent you have to move on or get haunted by the past just learn from the past and move on

[@TravellerTinker]

@@Jasuya how do i join custom servers on ps4

[@mrglued7037]

Bro I lost both my bedrock and java because of migration can’t play now

[@NoodleArmy]

We cannot even blame Mojang for this, this is Microsofts fault Mojang has full control of Java edition and look how well it's doing DESPITE its mashed potato like coding. Microsoft on the other hand has full control of Bedrock edition, Bedrock edition is nothing but a Cash-Cow, Despite Bedrock edition being a C++ program it still isn't as polished as Java, Microsoft doesn't give a Damn about Bedrock edition, all they care about is the big bucks they make from the Marketplace, Mojang really does care about their game, Microsoft just cares about the dollars they make. It's really unfortunate, Minecrafts community is mainly Bedrock due to Bedrock being Multiplatform and Microsoft just doesn't care, I play Bedrock and Java, but I prefer Java alot more simply because, it's not a bug-fest, No microtransactions or marketplace, The mods and maps are free, and skins are creatable and free aswell. These are clear reasons to why when a person buys Minecraft on PC they always go for Java edition( Before it became unified with Bedrock) Java edition is handled by a company(Mojang) that cares about the Quality, while Bedrock is handled by a company(Microsoft) who cares about their bank account's cash Quantity. I know this comment is very long but it's just something that I wanted to address.

[@ydemoc3678]

good comment yes ⚠️👍

[@Melo-uo4jl]

valid comment w

[@ByteOfRamen]

Great comment. Though Mojang has their own issues still. There is 1 bug in the game that has been there since version 1.3.1. Essentially this bug is caused by the separation of the local player and the server. In og minecraft, if you get hit, the player and your camera moves in the opposite direction from where you get hit. Post version 1.3.1 your camera and player moves to the left no matter what direction you get hit from. Mojang responded to this saying they wont fix this. The fix is a few lines of code that resyncs the server and local player with each other.

[@DeepDownInTheOcean]

@@ByteOfRamen Agreed. That bug is very stupid when it comes down to PVP because when you get hit from your left side, your character gets hit toward the person that hits you, which it's not supposed to, it's supposed to do the opposite. It doesn't happen often. When your ping gets above 150, it happens sometimes.

[@DeepDownInTheOcean]

We can blame mojang for the false copyright strikes (besides one person mentioned in the video) and lack of warning, though.

[@awwastor]

7:30 to be fair, genshin’s world is significantly smaller

[@TheCJBrine]

Mojang: “we want to encourage our players’ creativity!” Also Mojang: “we’re gonna keep this creative stuff exclusive to our players who also do business with us, and let them play with the firefly too!” the higherups gotta get their stuff in gear, man.

[@reggiejackson1132]

You b1tches wanna party with savage (21)

[@viktorrium]

Just like KZbin.

[@Endersgamejp]

@@viktorrium that's just politics for ya. Lots of grandiose talk with nothing actually getting done.

[@somebody_else]

In my opinion the firefly is a bit more of a negligible addition than birch forests; it would provide some great atmosphere but not much more. Despite this, I think there would be a much simpler way to add them, particularly now that frogs don't eat them (a decision that I think is perfectly reasonable). Think about how, in the Basalt Deltas, ambient ash particles float through the air. Something like that might be possible for mangrove swamps and fireflies. I'm not a Minecraft developer and I have no idea how to code though, so it's probably a good deal more difficult than I'm imagining. Feel free to respectfully disagree as well.

[@mooing_cowmilk]

Just to add on to the bug thing. Quite a few bugs on bedrock, for example outpost generating in village, is stated as won't fix or even works as intented while java fixed the exact same bug in a couple of snapshots. This kind of action goes against the public goal of game parity.

[@Mekko4dev]

On my mobile world a funkin outpost generated in my ONLY VILLAGE within 4000 BLOCKS OF SPAWN! AND WHEN I ENTERED THE VILLAGE A RAID STARTED!!!!!!

[@RandommBoyo]

bruh

[@LOL-gn5oh]

It baffles me how Geyser, a community-made plugin/mod, just solved the critical parity problems, making Java and Bedrock crossplay a reality, and a multi-billion dollar company is taking more than a decade to do.

[@jordazmo19]

@@LOL-gn5oh it's actually a multi-TRILLION dollar company, so yea...

[@bubblewrapwallpaper]

That's a good bug though, I don't think any one wants that fixed. I think most people want to hold anything in their off hand or build above the bedrock ceiling. I think we need to check our priorities here.

[@Drives31forhalo]

Honestly, the "wild" update felt more like the deep dark update. the only things of note (other than the deep dark) were chest boats, frogs, and swamps. I thought the frogs and fireflies to be only the beginning of the added mobs, not all of them. seriously disappointing.

[@moistpretzelz5799]

Allay

[@pinkmell0w]

Caves & Cliffs Part 3, essentially. As much as people meme it that way, the sentiment behind the existence of this meme to begin with is solid

[@palecaptainwolfkayls8499]

The Mild Update (Caves & Cliffs pt. 3)

[@rainbowcraft2694]

Mojang shouldn't name an update after changes to the general wilderness of Minecraft if the update isn't actually going to change the wilderness in any significant way. Should've called it the Dark & Dank update.

[@timewarpdrive77]

Swamps? Lol, no... the original swamp biome still has oak trees

[@user-ni7ui1nk8p]

I’ve experienced the portal glitch where when you go to another dimension there’s a chance you teleport thousands of blocks away, which took all my enchanted netherite gear when I spawned in the void. There went dozens of hours of work. Idk if they fixed it, so I had to bring an ender chest for my loot in the end. I think they did fix it though. And, to be honest, marketplace is cool but it’s literally just a waste of money compared to Java.

[@Dragaconic]

being that java is coded in, well, java. I can understand why it could take longer for bedrock to be fixed being that it's coded in c++. However, the issue is them refusing to fix said bugs, or choosing to fix them only if the bug can actually effect someone irl. For example the laggy piston animation was set to not be fixed, but they changed it almost immediately once someone said that it could cause epilepsy from the blocks flashing white. I feel like the success of java is from fixing what the community sees as a problem, and this element seems to be partially missing for bedrock

[@AntVenom]

If Bedrock bugs simply took longer to fix, this video wouldn't exist. But yeah the whole "Won't Fix" stuff is dumb.

[@CheeseManFuu]

Different codebases don't take longer or shorter to debug just because of the language they're written in. If anything, Java probably should be the one that takes longer to debug given that it now has code written over a decade ago by somebody who wrote in Java simply as a hobby who was basically ostracized from their company. Bedrock is a clean slate that should theoretically have really good and fresh documentation for their team to be able to go in and find the branch of code causing issues.

[@trashboxbobylev9900]

@@CheeseManFuu actually debugging Java is easier because it just works compared to nightmare C++'s ecosystem is

[@CheeseManFuu]

​@@trashboxbobylev9900 Sure, but that's only in an apples-to-apples comparison. Java's platform was made by a hobbyist intending to make a one-and-done indie project with a couple additions, Bedrock was made with an actual notion of the scale that Minecraft is/was going to be. If their cards are played right (and it seems like it isn't, just for the record), they should have a really good internal self-support system to be able to trace issues. Another indie project that's been in development hell for a while, osu!, actually has a large scene of community members contributing to a new revision for their game client in reward for bounties. From what I can tell, it generally ends up painless to find and squash bugs or add totally new features because their documentation is so good and they've had rather well organized project management. Somewhere from 80-90% of the onus falls on the management and support for how smooth the long-term development rolls, and that's what I feel like Mojang are lacking in their Bedrock team.

[@Spectere]

@@CheeseManFuu I imagine by this point that most of MC:Java's code has been overhauled and modernized at this point. So many huge architectural and design changes happened since Notch stepped away from Minecraft development, that I somewhat doubt that much of his original work remains. If I had to take a stab at why Bedrock is the way it is, it might be an obsessive focus on performance. Given that the Bedrock codebase seems to have originated in around 2011, specifically targeting phones from that era, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the decisions they made back then just to get it running on those platforms are causing issues today. The nature of some of these Bedrock-exclusive bugs kind of supports that (falling through the world likely being a floating point precision issue, world gen issues typically being caused by integer overflows, etc.).

[@ajnestorisclips3689]

So combining the two versions of minecraft is great, and it really is, but I wish some of us, the people who bought *both* of the versions for $30 USD, would receive a little trinket of some sort, like the migrator cape. Makes sense right?

[@themusicboy9766]

yes

[@sls12III]

EXACTLY

[@Meaxis]

It's said in the announcement - we'll get something soon!

[@ajnestorisclips3689]

@@Meaxis it did? I must have missed it! Thank you for telling me!

[@joeywilhelm6123]

actually they're gonna give out something! I sure hope its either a bonus game or a yellow cape :p

[@huntercool2232]

Not to mention tamed or named mobs that would randomly despawned on Bedrock addition. *Can’t tell you how many pets I’ve lost over the years on my survival worlds from bugs like that. I once had a massive fish pond that took me days to decorate and it was filled to the brim with tropical fish, squids, and turtles. One day I logged on and there was not a single living creature in that pond. The turtles and squids I put name tags on so they wouldn’t despawn yet every mob in that pod had randomly just vanished. That was also the day I lost all my librarian villagers who had also disappeared. Every tamed animal, villager, and mob inside or around my house was just gone. I feel like that I had so many mobs in the area, 90% of them being the fish in the pond, that the game just couldn’t function and it just basically whipped out all the mobs in the area. That being said it still wasn’t THAT many animals, including the fish it was less than a hundred in one chunk. I know this sounds childish, but It got to the point where I started getting genuinely depressed and frustrated after getting so many new pets and villagers to replace the old ones over and over again just for them to poof as well. I eventually quit that world and took a break from Minecraft for a while.*

[@miimiiandco]

On Realms, I've had a similar issue, where Villagers just randomly despawn. Thankfully, this hasn't happened on my world outside the Realms.

[@arsantiqua8741]

@@miimiiandcoyou're lucky to have the despawnification not happen to you on normal worlds. I play exclusively on normal worlds and they literally go missing after just a day or two of not being in their vicinity. It's honestly frustrating and disheartening.

[@w7u]

I was tracking the villagers in a village before and I’m pretty sure about half the villagers that existed at one point were despawned within two Minecraft weeks

[@miltoska9708]

@@w7u Dude, you realise villagers get killed by zombies, not everything is a glitch

[@miltoska9708]

@@arsantiqua8741 once again, villagers get killed by zombies, and even ones within walls can get killed by turning into witches if a lightning strikes nearby

[@rhisrhsuprisingly]

I tested out the "die form using the end portal glitch" when it happened, and it turns out is is just a lot of damage, not instakill. You could survive in full enchanted netherite, but just about.

[@Bubbo]

You always impress me with the amount of facts and research that go into your videos. peep the cameo at 13:25 great vid as always

[@AntVenom]

Yo thanks!

[@MuzikBike]

o/

[@tariffictypist7372]

Yoo what a cameo

[@muhammadsoleh4725]

How's Yello?

[@tariffictypist7372]

@Nehemiah Soebroto bro I know what a cameo is I was just saying the phrase wow, what a cameo Like it was a great cameo and all man English is so trippy some times it's okay happens to the best of us

[@PotatoPie25]

As someone who primarily plays Bedrock Edition for fun and for content, I and quite a lot of the community can echo this same sentiment about its bugs and the marketplace. Obviously, it's not going to be easy to fix all of the bugs, but refusing to fix or even ACKNOWLEDGE them? There's been a major texture bug dubbed by the community "pink glitch" that was in the game for over *two years* before Mojang even acknowledged it, and even then, it was just the generic PR response of "thanks for reporting, we're looking into this". Since then, it's been over 7 months and we've heard next to nothing on it since then. At this point, "bugrock edition" is a bit of a meme in the community, but when you think about it, it's depressing how little work goes into actually making the game playable, but much work goes into presenting stuff on the marketplace and EVEN THAT has a lot of problems, as you and others have outlined. I just wish the Minecraft that the majority of people play was actually cared about by the Minecraft team, beyond just the money-making capabilities of it. It's their literal "flagship version" afterall - on the title screen, Bedrock Edition is now just "Minecraft" and Java Edition is now known as "Minecraft Java Edition". Thanks for making this video. While I doubt anything will happen as a result of it, it's at least good to see that the smaller, but more problematic issues are getting recognized by the larger community.

[@EnoEso]

they should swap the titles and make java edition "minecraft", and bedrock "minecraft: bedrock edition". when you think of minecraft, you're probably more likely to think of the java edition than bedrock

[@Kiephie]

no way it's riodrojimmy

[@liamturner1342]

Why "bugrock edition" when it could be "bedbug edition"?

[@gothicgolem2947]

@@EnoEso depends bedrock has way more players so it depends on who thinks about it

[@TheCJBrine]

there’s also a bug where persistent mobs like villagers can despawn at chunk borders, and its issue on the bug tracker is from 2017. you can notice your village going empty within your first few days of playtime, villagers seeming to disappear even in the same ingame day…and it’s not just a problem with villagers, it affects any mob that isn’t supposed to despawn. I’m surprised it’s not brought up much, I haven’t played Bedrock recently tbh but apparently it still hasn’t been fixed, the issue on the tracker has comments from very recent times and it’s still marked as unresolved…

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

The consistent incompetence of Redmond reminds me of 343 and it shows just how terrible Microsoft is at creating studios. Every time they make a studio they hire the most incompetent management possible. I gave up on bugrock edition, I’m just waiting to get a half decent PC to buy java. Nothing kills my enjoyment of a game more than poor polish and constant crashes.

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

@@pringle409 There are mods that can increase performance without tradeoffs and I’m more willing to deal with poor optimization than constant bugs and crashes.

[@nerath639]

@@pringle409 install Fabric and use the Mod Sodium and Phosphor to increase your FPS by 400%

[@CelesticEclipse]

Now you have to buy both bedrock and java together

[@freddykun897]

I playing Minecraft java edition on $238 laptop, and never get above 45 FPS without optifne. But at least 30/35 FPS with 4/6 chunk is still playable and enjoyable for me. BTW I playing both version of Minecraft, vanilla and forge 1.16.5 with 30 mods, and that both versions getting same performance.

[@thenstop]

I get 160 fps on a 2014 mac mini, how are you guys getting such low fps...? I usually go with fabric as the mod loader, sodium, lithium, starlight, essential, and sodium extra. Then i put everything on fast or off, then use 4 blocks render distance and no mipmaps

[@smartsport]

Hey AntVenom, I haven't been on the minecraft wave for years now but I used to love your content back in the day. I'm glad to see you're still doing well! Thanks for making my childhood so much fun.

[@no-one6790]

Marketplace is directly against Notch's ethics. In 2011 or so on April fools day, he made a fake locked chest spawn in a world. When interacted with it took you to a fake marketplace site. It was to parody microtransactions.

[@iClone101]

Hence why Microsoft has removed basically all references to Notch from Minecraft.

[@aylinmutlu7688]

@@iClone101 examples?

[@hipoleto]

@@aylinmutlu7688 they literally banned him from the game, Need more?

[@maxwellli7057]

@@aylinmutlu7688 I don't think he's in the credits anymore, although I'm fairly certain that was because of some comments made in the past on hs twitter account that were seen as unsavory.

[@l1ghtd3m0n3]

While Notch clearly got /pol/‘d, that doesn’t discredit anything before that point.

[@EvilParagon4]

To be honest, I don't like chunk blending. A really fun part of old worlds is exactly those sharp cliffs that feel more like history and certain give you a feeling of crossing into new lands whenever you go past them.

[@andrewramlall3560]

I always wonder how it would appear in universe to Steve. Would he see it as some metaphysical reality breakdown or merely an odd natural formation?

[@22slice]

maybe an option to enable or disable it would've worked best

[@TheBcoolGuy]

@@andrewramlall3560 I see it as a tactonic plate shift

[@calibribody6776]

it also made it look cool. I love some of old minecraft's world gen. It's a game made of blocks. Doesn't have to look cool. And massive walls when you come into a new biome looked awesome at times.

[@ryanhernandez8324]

I kinda like the new one because it just looks magnificent

[@aidanely]

We had a pillar bug constantly, where if we pillared to much we’d just die in the nether which is always fun. Also considering all console players are on Bedrock as well, it’s already annoying to play with a controller but the random deaths and the weird bugs everywhere but you know whatever

[@SpectacularSpiderFan]

Didn't Ph1lza die from a glitch on Java just from standing in the End?

[@JDLong006]

He worked with a dev to fix that during the few days after it happened

[@notrileydl2]

3:45 If you're not careful and you noclip out of reality in the wrong areas, you'll end up in the Backrooms, where it's nothing but the stink of old moist carpet, the madness of mono-yellow, the endless background noise of fluorescent lights at maximum hum-buzz, and approximately six hundred million square miles of randomly segmented empty rooms to be trapped in God save you if you hear something wandering around nearby, because it sure as hell has heard you

[@phroggu]

As of 1.19.1 prerelease 1, players can now be banned from online play entirely on java, which is definitely going to cause issues in anarchy servers

[@botilever]

Man if you get banned on bedrock you can’t even play your own worlds. Like can’t load up them. And in a phone/console device there’s no “I’m just re-download it” thing (or I don’t know about). So it sucks. But I never did played large servers. Me and my counsins always played within on our worlds, with local wifi connection. So hopefully me and my cousins won’t gonna have problems. But for those who play on large servers I really sorry for you. I miss 2013-2015. The good old days in mcpe. But I gotta say, that a game as succesful as MC, they won’t gon’ last long. Atleast not the prime time of it. Even tho I started playing in 2013 June, I really am glad to play with the “real MC” as some call it.

[@spoopyscaryskelebones3846]

@@botilever that’s messed up

[@Schnort]

@@botilever I used to play MCPE before the food bar was added and the oof sound was changed. Good old days.

[@saber2802]

@@spoopyscaryskelebones3846 That's entirely illegal.

[@fitmotheyap]

Where's France? They very much dislike the "owning a license" thing They prefer *owning games* Which would probably prevent all this weird stuff

[@rainbowcraft2694]

I assume Mojang is doing their best while Microsoft is sabotaging them with unreasonable requirements and demands as a result of their corporate greed.

[@kidwolf0015]

Honestly.... That would explain why Java is somehow vastly superior to bedrock despite the setback of being directly based on unprofessional quailty Java coding from 2009..... vs an incredible, multiplatform, insanely streamlined C++ engine that is blatently more capable, but horrifically neglected. I think you just might be onto something here. Notice how virtually all of the complaints in the video are towards BEDROCK. Mojang handles Java Edition directly. It's that simple. Microsoft hired a small team for Bedrock edition, so they generally have the most control over it. Mojang has limited, if any, control over it. The difference.... It shows greatly.

[@iClone101]

@@kidwolf0015 Bedrock just appears like a massive cash-grab. Microsoft tried so hard to push Bedrock and get Java players to switch for many years, but once they got their microtransactions implemented they just ignored development. Somehow, despite Microsoft giving Bedrock significant backing and a much better game engine, the 13-year-old Java code that a hobbyist put together still manages to perform so much better. Sure, Bedrock may appear more streamlined, but that's irrelevant if it lacks stability.

[@jan_harald]

hey, it's what microsoft's known for ;P

[@bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034]

@@iClone101 Bedrock runs incredibly well, the problem is that it’s overall held back by mobile. It’s not very buggy despite what people say.

[@TheGoldNShadow]

@@bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034 but it’s slow, very VERY slow

[@AgloKlaus]

As a Java Datapacker, I honestly think we have some luck in making our content mostly free and accessible. The legal problems are minimal because it is all considered fan-work, and the results are still very good because people do it for fun, rather than pure money. I had the opportunity to work with the Bedrock Marketplace and it was a terrible experience.

[@star5384]

Ya Java data packs better than market place

[@eideticex]

It's not that it's considered fanwork. It's that the licenses chosen by Java mod/resource pack developers is permissive enough to allows almost anything as long as you attribute the source to the person that posted it in whatever way they chose to be represented. For majority it's just a mention in a readme, download page, or credits depending on which applies.

[@robdom91]

I have a feeling we underestimate Minecraft's complexity. Even the original dev team pointed out that fixing bugs is like fighting a Hydra. Cut off one head, two spring up to take its place. Few games have this many overlapping features and game mechanics and I think the dev teams have had it by now.

[@frostrangerofthefrozenrelm]

99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs. Take one down, patch it around, 127 little bugs in the code.....

[@crazydragy4233]

For a company of that size it's not an excuse. They don't even try is the issue

[@JepexOfficial]

I don't think its Mojang's fault for the spread, I'm sure they had the clients sign a contract

[@lucusloc]

I wonder if that contract has provisions for not stealing content you do not have rights too. . . The point here is not that there are no contracts, but that they are signing contracts with people who are know to be liars and cheats, and they are doing nothing to proactively police these partners.

[@holico3708]

there are a lot of ways to ensure that secret version wouldn't be leaked. Even something as easy as a password-protected version, password ofc can be used only one time.

[@acorn4811]

I love how no one is fanboying over jepex and genuinely talking with him

[@41-Haiku]

@@acorn4811 New phone, who that?

[@2wugs]

@@41-Haiku I have no idea other than the fact they're verified, which is free internet points

[@redpheonix1000]

I find it hillarious yet completely expected that there's a Developer Edition with so many incredibly useful debug tools, and I bet it's sole reason for existing is because it helps them make more money, by helping people to develop paid marketplace stuff. You never ever got any of this kind of helping tool for Java modders or resource pack and data pack creators, because - you guessed it - those don't make them money.

[@AndreasHGK]

to be fair on java you can easily create those tools yourself, while on bedrock thats not nearly as simple

[@Ewokpilot65]

@@AndreasHGK yeah and they are gonna add spectator to bedrock too so they are taking steps in the right direction

[@MateuszPL7274]

@@Ewokpilot65 new UI on bedrock, new touch controls. Maybe after spectator mode coming hardcore mode which requires spectator mode

[@Slackow]

I think they might've initially made it for their own testing and debugging, and then realized it would be useful for creators, but I think they should've made it publicly available for anyone who owns the game. I see no reason why to keep this under wraps.

[@MateuszPL7274]

@@Slackow What for players need in minecraft debug mode for me is useless

[@KaneyoriHK]

It feels as though Java has the most love inside it, I don't know, it feels much more player friendly, it's less stiff. I prefer Java due to its playback features and ease of access for modification for what I want.

[@marlonlernmark]

That’s because Java is owned by mojang and bedrock is owned by Microsoft. All the developers at mojang are super nice and truly care for the game they’re making, and while I haven’t spoken to anyone who works at bedrock, the leaders seem to be much more profit oriented

[@HalbeargameZ]

thats the difference between a microsoft minecraft and a mojang minecraft, mojang owns java edition, microsoft owns bedrock

[@KaneyoriHK]

@@joaovitormanhaesfeitoza Doesn't make sense since if you have one the other is free, at least it's given to you for free during the summer. But also, it's stupid to think like that as well, here's why, "Multiplatforming" How the hell can you "get both" if you don't own a pc to play Java. They've even stated that they want to blur the line a bit more and have both contain similar features. Though truth be told, why would I bother buy Bedrock? If I'm playing minecraft, then I'm going to use Java, it's just easier. Then again, I don't like Bedrock edition, it doesn't feel right to me.

[@yeyeyeyeyeyeyyeyey]

@@marlonlernmark Both Bedrock and Java are owned by Mojang, which as a company is owned by Microsoft

[@HoopsMacabre]

I remember when I used to be a Minecraft Animator and my colleague, honestly a toxic and harmful person, used to be a Minecraft animator too before he moved to college. The biggest difference between his content and my content was that he dabbled with ONLY vanilla Minecraft, meaning anything that was already in the game, primarily the Nether. Whereas I loved to work with Modded Minecraft and I was pretty decent at it, too. I worked on Rymdnisse’s Modded Rigs, the Moa model and all those mob models were actually my models that I made in Blender 3D. Of course, I failed in my long-term endeavors to make Minecraft animations but after my battle with Stage 1 Brain cancer and after my animator friends left me when I was battling brain cancer, I watched the obvious decline of animation quality in the Minecraft animation community. As you can expect, the colleague I talked about earlier just continued to make vanilla-based content until the river of expansion dried up for every other animator. Now the Minecraft animation community is a sea of BS and monster school content that is aimed towards kids and mainly based around Vanilla Minecraft. I’m unwilling to come back to the community after my battle with cancer. I have been through too much trauma and, honestly, after everything I’ve seen and heard, Minecraft Animators aren’t worth my time anymore. And so isn’t Minecraft Animation. Which is a shame because I knew a LOT that could start a really powerful era in Minecraft animation, potentially. I knew how to export modded regions as .obj files (like the Aether, great example), I rigged up and modeled modded entities, I even made entire rig packs. All to be deleted, willingly, by me. Nowadays I’ve been just playing Terraria. Fun, engaging community and Relogic, unlike Mojang, have their heads on their shoulders and understand what the community wants. They didn’t remove fireflies because they’re toxic to frogs, they kept fireflies and added dragonflies. They were SMART. Also they would never EVER add the chat moderation or the shop function. Instead they added the Terraria Shop where you can buy merch online. My plans are to reach 10K hours in Terraria and then start working diligently on a rigs pack for Terraria, 3D. Along with a maps project where I can actually make really good 3D Terraria animations. Because, unlike Minecraft and its community, Terraria’s community has shown its ready, willing and able to progress and try new things and I’m honestly very proud to be part of this community. It’s been wonderful so far.

[@hectic1830]

If you do manage to do a 3D Terraria Animation i will happily support you, and if you can do one for Calamity, then i will heavily support you.

[@HoopsMacabre]

@@hectic1830 Dude, I have got to try Calamity out. Looks like a hell of a lot of fun. One day, my dude. One day I will make a Calamity animation. But it has to be sometime after I do a handful of Terraria animations.

[@hectic1830]

@@HoopsMacabre Question? what is the artstyle going to be.

[@SmiIeyyXD]

Honestly I think we may be heading for the second downfall of Minecraft. Update issues, popularity decreasing, and other issues.

[@Aezzy]

Bedrock was always glitchy and updates are realy cool such as Deep dark and warden. Also java is better and i there is no popularity decreasing. And also we are not even close to Downfall, look on minecdaft popularity in 2016-2019

[@train123z]

@@Aezzy "updates are really cool" Barely any new content, unfulfilled promises, and two features out of a supposedly "big update" are good. Bedrock was always glitchy yes, but it's even more apparent now and now we know that they're refusing to fix certain issues. And yes, it's very apparent that the popularity is decreasing. You're in denial

[@jockeyfield1954]

minecraft fell back in the mid 2010s because people lost interest in it. it's a downfall that every game will face, but few recover from. as for a downfall due to dev issues and much more, it's a downfall few games face, and one even less recover from. so, unlike what happened previously, there's a very slim chance minecraft will get a second chance if action isn't taken immediately

[@ERDude]

I hope Mojang makes the right decisions and save Minecraft

[@Aezzy]

@@train123z *Barely* ? What do you want more, we got a new boss warden with new ancient city, we got 2 new bioms, new swamp and Deep dark. We also got cool new blocks and frogs and allays, and we got new very very cool enchant which is swith sneek, its very useful for me. We also got horns, cool ancient city loot, boats with chest, new type if wood, new redstone becuase the block fron Deep dark can be used to detect any sound. And many cool mechanics. Over all its not a big update but its very cool and people are just ungrateful bitches and dont appreciate mojangs hard work

[@eugenedirtington8512]

I quite honestly have been noticing a decline regarding how Mojang seems to be handling their updates and even their concepts for a long time, now. I never found it enough to condemn them, but it was always enough to irk me, one of my greatest examples of many problems being with the first ever mob vote, back when we got the wretched Phantoms. Their implementation is certainly annoying, but that isn't what makes me angry, that instead goes to what has become of the remaining three. Jeb's infuriating insistence on sticking to his words in spite of the entire community, to *NEVER* look back at these mobs ever again. Mob A would have been perfect for the Update Aquatic giving us that hostile ocean mob we were in desperate need of. Mob B honestly could have fit into any update, being a gluttonous mob that could be both underground AND in caves. Mob D, the Nether update would have been perfect.People even begged Jeb to add it, but he outright said "no." He literally has no reason to not give people what they want, but he holds himself to a promise everyone hates. That was the start of me noticing things I wasn't happy about with Mojang, pointless scrapping of ideas and designs and then saying "We need more mobs" after throwing away so many good ones. Now we have inconsistent standards of not wanting frogs to eat "poisonous fireflies" yet you're allowed to kill a parrot with a cookie. Not wanting to add endangered animals, hence why Pandas were only added after being saved, but then we get bees and Axolotls _because_ they're endangered. Not wanting people to think sharks are dangerous, yet it's perfectly fine to have polar bears attack you unprovoked. Nothing they say makes sense, and come across as excuses, and the "concept art doesn't count as a commitment" line feels like the ultimate backhand to culminate their lack of accountability, and poor handling of updates to the point roughly 75% of what what said to be in this update was removed, with many features even being three updates late by this point, and STILL missing. In short, this is becoming ridiculous, not only the general sense with Mojang, but also all of the scummy, and ridiculous bull with Bedrock Edition, how badly it's neglected while also being given features in a development build that people have been begging for, yet will never get. But the people that make money on being reprehensible trash get these desired features because it'll somehow make Microsoft more money. This right here is a tipping point, this is where Mojang needs to find a way, and quick, to decide whether it tips in a good direction, or a bad one, because their image is starting to get tarnished, and just their ask Mojang segment is a clear indication of this with the amount of negative reception they got for even just that gaslighting reason for cutting birch forests alone.

[@snaidman-8450]

I completely agree, hell they even scrapped the dig site feature shown in the caves and cliffs update

[@t20kdc]

I feel like this sort of "gameplay through annoyance" has been the trend ever since Beta 1.8 added hunger. A shame, too, because it's also the version that added creative mode. So it's not even enough to just say "well, play Beta 1.7.3 then".

[@eitanengel8259]

I’m sure it’ll come back stronger in some time. that’s how Minecraft has always been, and always will be, because it doesn’t need to develop with time. It’s always been a simple block game, and that’s what makes it immortal and my favorite game.

[@AntVenom]

And I truthfully hope that it does come back stronger!

[@RyanSoltani]

@@AntVenom I hope as well

[@カムリン-k9u]

I don't think it's Mojang's fault for the issues. I think instead Microsoft is to blame.

[@Dragaconic]

i feel like combining java and bedrock into one purchase hopefully is the start of the process

[@Alexus00712]

@@Dragaconic my question is how much you actually save on that, or if it's more expensive now.. Per game it's probably cheaper, but is getting both in one cheaper or more expensive than getting just Java or just Bedrock?

[@OxyPox]

I stopped regularly playing Minecraft around the time it was acquired by Microsoft. The game had lost a lot of its original touch, and I think it is still going in that direction. I now only play Minecraft occasionally with my friends (always on Java) and frankly... it's just a lot. More items and features doesn't mean better.

[@matheustghales]

I miss the updates that actually brought full content (illager, ocean, etc). The last update that actually made me feel the good side of the game was the nether one, the rest was really dissapointing

[@Nick-L4D2-Z3n]

Exactly the same happened with me. Wonder where those Marketing strategies come from?

[@darkmatter3112]

@@matheustghales Cave Update is actually pretty cool. Increased world height limit as well as reworked cave system. However unlike the previous updates, this update was split into 2 parts. Ugh. Even worse, they stated that after cave update, from now on, mojang will only focus releasing small content one by one instead of big content in one update

[@SmashPortal]

A better title for this would've been "Bedrock Edition is a Showcase of Incompetence" since the only complaint about Java Edition was the delay in promised features.

[@marcedoreste]

I mean as a Java player there are things from Bedrock I'd like in Java, exempli gratia friends list, ability to join friend's worlds, in-built mod support, better render optimization, cross-platform and some tiny features like potion cauldrons, better UI and so on. Not everything on Bedrock is crap although the marketplace and the parity issues completely kill it IMO.

[@SmashPortal]

@@marcedoreste Friends list -- This would be great for the most part, but if implemented poorly could lead to abuse. Join friends -- Similar to the friends list, but this is a feature that should've already been in Java Edition to help prevent the younger members of the playerbase from seeking out potentially unsafe alternatives. Mod support -- Another thing that the community has been asking for for a long time. Mojang has helped in the tiniest way by de-obfuscating the code, but it'd be awesome to have an official toolset for modding Minecraft. Optimization -- This is unlikely to happen within any reasonable period of time. Bedrock Edition has the advantage of fresher code, in contrast to Notch's spaghetti code in Java Edition. Cross-platform -- Unfortunately Java Edition is only on PC, which makes it almost impossible to do any form of crossplay. Bedrock Edition isn't even in the same programming language, so if they ever did reach parity, Mojang would have to actively translate between the two languages to play side-by-side. Gameplay features -- Most of the gameplay features from Bedrock Edition should be fairly simple to implement, and I expect the two editions to continue moving towards parity, at least on Java Edition's end.

[@watchmp100]

That doesn't exclude them from doing lazy decision for the game

[@TorutheRedFox]

@@SmashPortal Java Edition can run on anything that LWJGL supports platforms that aren't Linux, Mac or Windows aren't _officially_ supported though

[@XBGamerX20]

@@marcedoreste yeah exactly. I'm only just happy because java still has this legacy and serious look from 2010s while bedrock has changed a lot and now it's even worse when every pixel you see theres some fancy object

[@Pixelcraftian]

Really hoping that Mojang don't turn a blind eye with these bugs and situations. Of course, I don't play Bedrock (most of the time) but I know many do and that's kind of a problem. I LOVE Minecraft, but on a semi-unrelated note, it seems the games dying down for me. Only time where I want to play it is with friends, and I don't really watch much Minecraft anymore _(of course, I do watch some minecraft content and really enjoy them.)_ Might have to pick the game back up again and start a vanilla world, perfect timing too since the Wild Update released. Awesome video on letting people know about the whole scene. Can't wait to see more from you :)

[@rabies6418]

:/

[@iwanttohelpyou4510]

Hi Pixelcraftian

[@antimojang2754]

I got striked just for mentioning the dev editions, because I am not as big as Antvenom or Element X. No warning and no elaboration.

[@jekinfinity]

Anyone else seeing a resemblance to 1.15? the only things we got in 1.15 were bees, beehives, and honey blocks. The update after was a huge dimension update 1.16 the nether update. Now Mojang promised a lot for this update and didn't fulfill every promise but i find it astonishing no one has considered the possibility that mojang are working on a new dimension and that's why a bunch of promises had to be scrapped. perhaps that could be 1.20. the new music disc hints that a lot and if there wasn't a dimension why would there be the deep dark? what is the warden protecting? i feel overall we should be optimistic and happy that we didn't get a repeat of 1.15 IMO and got a bunch of new and exciting mobs, biomes and blocks.

[@stratejic1020]

It sounds like you're just in a classic Minecraft cycle situation this is what happens all the time and you don't seem to remember this happening as a kid you play Minecraft that gets boring you stop watching stuff on it you stop playing it and then like four three years later you hop back on and get addicted again this is how Minecraft works this is how it's built.

[@AlphasysNl]

When Mojang got bought by Microsoft, I already predicted that they'd push more towards Bedrock, and that Microsoft wants the data. It was no surprise when Mojang accounts had to turn into Microsoft accounts, and Minecraft suddenly became "Java edition" as if it was a port of some other version. Microsoft gives away Bedrock to Java version users now. Another try to get more people on the Bedrock bandwagon, so they can drop the Java version fully later. Also getting a bit tired of the amount of feature creep in Minecraft. Bugfixes come with new features now, which need bugfixes, which add new features. When is Minecraft finally finished? Looks like the answer is, never. It'll become a bloaty, bugridden mess, that no-one even dares to play anymore.

[@shinysquirrel8256]

that's a scary ending to this situation and I hate that it's one of the most likely

[@AngraMango]

So notch was right in his prediction saying Minecraft is dead. Except its a slow death

[@Anxmaly666]

yeah i can see that happening eventually although it would probably take a while

[@vowexine]

Ikr every Minecraft update (on bedrock) added major bug, we've had Pink Glitch for years, they dont even take a look on it, 1.19 brought a major bug to mobile players, specifically tablet users, whose right strafe button doesnt work, which is terrible i mean they dont even test out the update

[@JamesTDG]

I'll still play the game, but I'm honestly considering playing on a cracked client just because I'm tired of Microsoft trying to corral me into using something that isn't working well enough. Like, why should I play bugrock and be unable to fix performance issues when I can do that and more on JE no problem. Also, I just never trusted the whole marketplace aspect of the game, it restricts access to content that would otherwise be free on Java, like most importantly my own skin, I like having my orange coat and black clothes design, but I can't have it on BE without dropping money on that.

[@TheGameMage_]

I remember an old problem I had in my old world on bedrock with my friends. Over all the world was bad, 10k blocks away was the closest jungle, no wolves near us, and 2 of the 3 closest end portals were missing. (My one friends base was also a missing chunk half the time. Though that was because she had like over 20 cats in one chunk.) But the end portals were not in the strongholds, and I made a copy and edited away all the stone, and the end portal was missing, so I flew away and found another, also missing. Had to go even further and finally found a portal. We beat the dragon, but this was during the time the dragons breathe was glitched, it was invisible and killed them a few times. I later blew up my base in a giant explosion to mess with my friend, it was hilarious. But thats unrelated to everything

[@JogerJ]

I still refuse to accept that Bedrock edition has become the default when speaking of Minecraft. To me it's always going to be Java edition unless otherwise specified.

[@jackdavenport5011]

Java edition will always be just "Minecraft" to me. I've never seen anyone refer to Bedrock edition as just Minecraft.

[@Msrainydae1]

@@jackdavenport5011 minecraft is minecraft

[@Lost_n_Found_1]

@@Msrainydae1 Actually, in this case, it's not.

[@DesolateLavender]

Yup. Java is superior in every way I can possibly think of. It's just so easy to use... And I think people who play Bedrock can agree.

[@dashiehater7761]

@@Lost_n_Found_1 actually in this case, it is.

[@WhiskyChordata]

I've been saying this for a while but Mojang and Microsoft are killing the potential of Minecraft. Yearly updates that bring like 10 new features that are relatively obscure and get boring after 30 minutes is a MASSIVE waste of a game that has literally infinite possibilities. I don't know if it's lazy developing or what but it makes me so sad that a product so incredible can be wasted in the hands of incompetency.

[@FlightlessAviator]

'get boring after 30 minutes' Me, who still hasn't found all that 1.18 has to offer after 1.19 is out:

[@moop4935]

Ikr Minecraft could literally be on the level of terraria, but there's so much untapped potential that it is frustrating, even on vanilla java.

[@KrystPl]

ngl where are: fireflies, bundels, new birch forests, & other.

[@AmalGum001]

@@moop4935 Terraria is at the point where they keep trying to make a true final update, but they just keep on thinking of new stuff to add

[@dragonwaz]

@@FlightlessAviator Yeah I stopped playing a long time ago before elytra, before illagers, etc. Coming back with some friends and I fucking love deepslate so much. I always built with stonebrick but hated cobble and smoothstone in building. So my builds would be pretty bland with only stone brick and wood. Now I have Deepslate brick, polished deepslate, deepslate tile, and chiseled deepslate and all four blend together well and have slabs and staircases. Lanterns look sooooo much better than torches or Redstone lanterns and chains add so much flair. Shovels can make paths now so I don't have to use gravel anymore. Fucking bubble elevators oh my god yesss. Villagers placed from eggs act like natural spawned villagers now. There are so many little things added over time that have raised the quality of the game so much higher as a virtual lego set you can survive and create in. I don't care about the slow and steady updates, I'm more worried about them apparently not fixing bugs. My friend had to download a CPU limiter cause everytime he launches Java it uses 100% of his CPU and he has a good computer, it's shutting itself down to prevent damage from that kind of sudden resource draw. That really should be fixed.

[@UltimateSpinDash]

It's so schizophrenic. On the one hand, it often feels like Microsoft and Mojang want Bedrock Edition to become the "definitive" version of Minecraft, since Microsoft has much more control over it's monetization. At the same time, basic feature parity between both versions appears to be too much to ask for. Redstone, the Nether, individual blocks acting differently. And how on Earth does Bedrock not have Hardcore Mode yet? They literally did an official "Meet a Minecrafter" on Philza after he lost his five year world. That was over three years ago! And this is before the gamebreaking bugs AntVenom mentioned come in. As for the Wild Update being much smaller than it was presented as (along with disappointing loot in the Deep Dark), the reasons for that just don't hold up and feel like weak excuses instead. We can't have fireflies because frogs would eat them, but it's totally fine that they eat slimes AND magma cubes? And they don't eat any other mobs, too, so it's not like the fireflies would've been an exception from a general rule. Not to mention that the concern that a child might feed their pet frog fireflies is laughable if Minecraft is then willing to have frogs eating magma cubes as a game mechanic. And the other updated biomes? If they weren't planned to begin with, why show them and present them as if they were upcoming features. If time constraints were an issue and they weren't willing to delay the Deep Dark and Warden any further, just be upfront about it. It's not the lack of content that annoys me, we had light updates before, notably buzzy bees which still did plenty under the hood. It's the dishonesty.

[@norbucso]

I wrote this exact reasoning in other topics and got burned with the kids feeding pet frogs fireflies stuff. A lot of adults here. But I felt Mojang is doing BS. And they focusod mainly on the deep dark and still went through to call it the Wild update. More like a Dark or Scary update. With the cut features the balance was shifted in favour of the deep dark. Probably was late for marketing team to change all the stuff about it.

[@t20kdc]

If they were so insistent on not having frogs eat fireflies, maybe they could have just... not... had the frogs eat the fireflies??????

[@aleksandersats9577]

Yeah mojang is for sure falling badly. for example the directional damage bug, it was decided not the be fixed even though it is a feature and a good one at that. Your camera isn't supposed to tilt to the left, it's supposed to tilt according to where you are getting the damage from.

[@netherworks324]

It is of course sad to see such a long list of events that have simply been ignored by a multi-billion dollar company, however, I feel that Mojang is taking this unfortunate path simply because of the mistakes they left, many years ago, which have over time built up to a massive list of issues. It was just last week that I was thinking about such issues and that I thought that minecraft was starting to, in a way, go downhill. I personally think that they need to stop focusing on a new update for a while (not that we haven't been waiting for months) and instead catch up on major bugs, before adding a new feature.

[@gnarled128]

Yeah, like they did for 1.15

[@whothefrickareyou8106]

@@gnarled128 Its like when you leave all your homework for the last day. now you have to read. so mojang please do your homework.

[@amog8202]

Soo 1.15 but they try to work on parity and bedrock's infinite issues as a focused mass. Great

[@anthony.esper21]

If anything I'm worried about that combination of Java and Bedrock. Have a strong gut feeling this is a path of straight up eliminating Java edition and just forcing that marketplace up to our faces. To be honest, ever since Microsoft purchased Mojang I knew they would start to screw over their community. Just surprised it took this long really.

[@musicncode2130]

As always, it is just their Embrace Extend Extinguish strategy, it isn't exclusive to Minecraft sadly. As long as Microsoft is around, this will keep getting worse. Now the question is if the community will accept that and for how long.

[@joidss]

@@musicncode2130 hopefully, since java is extremely popular in the content creator community, they'll be forced to keep the bulk of it at the very least. besides, even if they do add the marketplace and that....eyesore of an interface...to java, realistically the literal hobbyist mod creators could probably fix any inconvenience it poses in a couple weeks anyways

[@ThatEmoGirl]

@@joidss Content creators who make a living will either play ball with microsoft or go broke.

[@gameclips5734]

@@joidss this, exactly

[@TheFloodFourm]

It will always happen with any public corporation. Not because “Microsoft” is a person who betrayed you, but because Microsoft is a revolving door of investors. Most likely the people who made the decision to buy Minecraft and agreed to the original development terms sold their stock long long ago. In there place are new people with literally one goal: SHORT TERM money, and they aren’t even aware of what previous boundaries have been set. I’m glad you noticed this trend, but if you think it’s exclusive to Microsoft you’re still playing the Fool. No ones playing the long game in the stock market.

[@EnigmaticGentleman]

THANK YOU for not putting the blame on the developers, put it bluntly I'm sick of people giving them crap just because 1.19 was disappointing. 99% of the time stuff like this is managements fault, whether it being copyright strikes, setting deadlines, poor moderation, etc. I do think the title is a bit strong though, it doesent look like the quality of updates is exactly going downhill (1.19 had HALF the dev time of usual, a third of C&Cs dev time, which does not scale linearly with content so quite frankly its impressive 1.19 wasn't literally just the Deep Dark)

[@AntVenom]

Java = Stockholm. Bedrock = Redmond / Microsoft. That's my view.

[@KaziiTheAvali_inactive]

@@AntVenom with this im gonna be completly honist. i think bedrock is so done bad is because it mainly has microsoft working and they dont truley care about the game, just the money it makes. this giving backlash on creators much of an insintive as itll make them lose money aswell why they will try to copyright clame secret versons. this is also why java gets god tier treatmnet. its ran by people who actually care about the game. (note with this comment im not talking about the devs but instead the higher ups)

[@rooot_]

@@KaziiTheAvali_inactive java still has alot of issues though, mainly performance (!), so I would not say it's getting a "god tier" treatment. However, I fully agree with Microsoft's only goal being to milk as much money out of bedrock edition as possible.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

I don't agree with this, there's only so much you can put on management. The developers are, at best, going along with bad leadership.

[@EnigmaticGentleman]

@@PlatinumAltaria I mean, its not like rebelling against leadership is really a choice, no one wants to loose their jobs and livelyhoods just because they pestered management to delay an update to a video game. Fact is, Management have all the power in the world to make all the bad decisions they want (including firing the developers if they were truly incompetent, ironically the one thing they usually get right), the developers cant do shit except go along with it.

[@TimeWisely]

Also, Antvenom, just throwing this out there; Genshin Impact and Minecraft are both insanely different games, first of all, Genshin was made on Unreal Engine, a game engine designed to port games seemlessly. Miencraft bedrock was coded from scratch.

[@davidthefrikr]

genshin actually runs on unity, not unreal engine, but your point still stands

[@thehollycow]

🤓

[@TimeWisely]

@@davidthefrikr Damn, it does? That's actually kind of impressive, I didn't know that, the graphics kind of look like their a unreal game.

[@frosty1865]

🤓

[@wallabam]

bro he's just trying to make some money ignore the sponsor

[@queenglowstone7141]

Remember when they said “what would you want in your offhand, a flower?” And then showed Steve running through a mine with a flower in his hand instead of a torch…

[@dubl33_27]

well in my offhand i want blocks, food, torches and some mods add dual wield compat for the hands so u can have a pickaxe and a sword in your hand and each one is used depending on if you want to mine a block or attack something.

[@derptea7]

Talk about damn ignorance

[@PumpkinBear]

I agree with all of these points, and I feel that the announcement of Minecraft Legends is another nail in the coffin for Minecraft. I worry that Mojang will move more and more resources to this new game (I know it is being developed with help from another studio), and removing resources from Minecraft development. I think that this was their reason for combining Java and Bedrock edition purchases. They know that they won't be supporting the game for much longer, so why not just combine the games? It's a win-win. People get happy, Mojang has another reason to cite for cancelling updates. With more and more updates being cancelled, they may just slowly slowing support for the game, announcing a big update, and releasing it a year later with half the promised features. This cycle can only get worse and worse as time goes on, until we have the final update.

[@gamermapper]

I wish if a game became dead, it becomes open source, but because of our capitalist world this will never happen

[@happysmash27]

@@gamermapper I wish more of the effort that goes into making amazing mods for Minecraft could go towards making or improving free/open source alternatives to it. Most of my favourite things in Minecraft come from mods, not from Mojang. What if there was a FOSS game with only the mods?

[@jcktmn]

Yeah, I saw a fuckin minecraft dungeons arcade machine at an arcade recently.

[@absoluteschmuck]

@@gamermapper If the world was communist, we wouldn't have games to play.

[@lamarr51]

not a win win cuz bedrock is bad

[@dude5646]

Now that I think about the quote,”Concept art is not a commitment,” it now sounds like when my friends say they’ll do something and bail on me saying they didn’t promise it.

[@StevenGillespie-hv9hx]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@jackdavenport5011]

It gives me "a sense of pride and accomplishment" vibes tbh

[@Lost_n_Found_1]

Those don't sound like friends to me.

[@tamas9554]

Concept art is really not a commitment, they are right about that. But if they decide to show it in an announcement video, then its on them for not notifying the playerbase over 5 months that it won't be a part of the update, of course the players will be furious. It was their decision to put that concept art in the announcement video, while they had to know they were not able to deliver it, and they didn't even told the players about it for almost half a year. Don't put it in the video in the first place, if there was no work getting done on it already.

[@uncreativenessatitsfinest4968]

also with mojang just refusing to fix those absolutely broken plains after 1.18. the plains are supposed to be flat, but when i come across plains all it is is just enormous hills. it sucks.

[@blakelandry9313]

Same bedrock, world generation seems to be really broken

[@Rpground]

I am not going to lie, those screwed up generations looked AWESOME! Especially the mountains one you were flying through. That's the kind of generation I wish was in Java, but consistent everywhere as a generation option. Wish there was a mod for that...crazy generation like that is why I prefer the older versions or your video on the Dynamic Heights mod (I am a very old sub). Still a favorite of mine to this day. Quick story, when I first played Minecraft it was an alpha build where through exploration I found a huge hole in the ground that went into a mountain and after exploring a bit I found a lone tree growing in a hollow mountain with a single sheep living there. It was so tall you could see the clouds phasing through the top of the hollow mountain as if it was fog or something. It was honestly one of the most amazing things I had ever seen in any game. That moment made me fall in love with Minecraft and I realized how special it was. Ever since then I've wanted crazy world gen like that but we just don't really get that in Minecraft anymore. Minecraft is trying for a more realistic tone now, which is nice...I guess, but it's not exciting or awe inspiring like that lone tree growing inside of a mountain.

[@adityasrinivasnarayan3478]

there probs is a mod for it

[@rainbowcraft2694]

That kind of generation would be cool but only rarely

[@tongs1073]

they should add deep holes and huge monolith type rocks into the game like in the video, that would make exploring really fun

[@pizzaman4385]

When I was younger I kept making worlds looking for errors like that so I can build on it, if Old me saw that I would of been mind blown on how cool it looked

[@tongs1073]

@@coleponsi9058 def gonna check that out, thx :D

[@jimtom7313]

Mojang needs to get better at realizing what they can do. If they can't properly estimate the amount of content they can make in a single year, than they need to learn from that. Its been twice in a row that they have had to go back on their word.

[@dercraft.network]

3 times actually... 1.17 1.18 And now 1.19 The problem is not Mojang... It's Microsoft demanding large updates every 6 months.

[@Codefan321]

@@dercraft.network Somehow it is expected that there will be more every time in less time. 1.16 was definitely the maximum Mojang could do. Somehow expectations were pushed collectively internally within Mojang - likely higher levels in Mojang's system - by Microsoft Corporation and by overall community demands (Many players are children, child logic, corporations just want to appeal for their parent's money). Now it is breaking because no human can work this much for so long.

[@MD5Gaming]

Agreed

[@NicoTheCinderace]

@@dercraft.network With 1.17, they had a valid reason to split the update into two, since it was to help avoid burnout and whatnot. For 1.19, I'm not sure what's going on here. I'd rather we have some update onto *why* certain features were delayed/pushed back.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@dercraft.network This Video here has a 'Spirit of tackling Issues' (made clar at the Start' that i see in 'Some More News'.

[@kmmmsyr9883]

In Bedrock, you disconnect from the server whenever you do Alt-Tab. Which is not a huge problem on phones or consoles, but very annoying in Windows 10 Edition where people want to switch to apps like Discord, web browser, video recording software, etc. while playing. I've seen a bug record about this that Mojang closed, saying that they won't fix the problem for Windows 10 because it's the same in other devices.

[@hospuk1714]

F11+alt+tab

[@Phroton]

It's actually more of microsoft windows fault than mojang. Bedrock on Windows 10/11 is made with UWP. UWP temporarily freezes (and suspends them with a leaf icon on task manager) when inactive to prevent security issues.

[@bigbadcuff]

Omg yes, I found out how annoying this is when I got my free version of bedrock recently

[@BritishTrainspotting]

@@Phroton and guess who owns Mojang, Microsoft.

[@valletas]

@@Phroton thats only half true because there are thousands of games where you can alt tab on servers and not be disconected There are ways to bypass this limitation mojang just doesnt care

[@justaloadofash]

This video age like fine wine Mojang still needs to fix their problems

[@dragonfury1565]

6:14 Broken or not, you gotta admit that looks absolutely incredible, i love seeing insane structures and terrain like this in minecraft

[@stormkitty3015]

that's why i dont want SOME bugs pached, sometimes it looks cool

[@stavkous4963]

No, it doesnt

[@masterdeetectiv9520]

It is still broken terrain, and should be fixed

[@redpenguin111]

@@stormkitty3015 It will always be possible to downgrade versions and experience stuff like this again

[@stormkitty3015]

@@redpenguin111 i alreaddy know that, i dont have minecraft though

[@_Killkor]

Please Mojang, take a listen to what Ant is saying. It's been proven time and time again that veteran Minecraft players are the first to notice when something is getting out of hand with the game. I couldn't agree more with his points.

[@kidwolf0015]

Guys, most of the stuff in this video genuinely isn't Mojang's fault.... For ANYTHING related to Bedrock Edition, blame Microsoft's team. The real Mojang pretty much has no control over Bedrock. These bugs are NOT thier fault, hence why Java doesn't suffer from like 90% them. As for the Java updates (or anything Java related), okay. Go ahead and blame them. That is thier doing.

[@PVP1470]

@@kidwolf0015 Yeah, Im tired of java player trashing this game for no reason.

[@kidwolf0015]

@@PVP1470 Wait, you aren't calling me a "Java only" player... are you? I play Bedrock on my phone like 75% of the time. I'm just pointing out the origins behind Bedrock's issues and explaining WHY they're so extreme. Yes, Java fans can exaggerate the problems. That doesn't mean issues are non-existent. A few real reasons for not liking Microsoft's laziness include: ○ Chunks interupting each other and causing huge ravines, unfinished structures, misplaced structures, etc. This isn't due to the terrain update alone. Bedrock has had this issue as far back as when it was still Pocket Edition. There's no reason for this to have lasted for almost decade. ○ The dreaded "disappearing mob glitch" which can cause any potential mob (regardless of name tags or tamed status) to be erased from the world randomly without warning. This glitch seems to vary in severity. In my experiences, a single mob will disappear. There are reports of ALL MOBS getting erased though. The biggest problem here is that Microsoft has been dismissing it for years now. ○ Features that were promised 5+ years ago still haven't been implemented in the release versions, yet they CAN be found fully functional in beta or developer versions. ○ Realms is pretty unstable despite being a paid service... ○ The command system in Bedrock edition is very, VERY limited.... Yet custom add-ons show us that even the weakest of phones (5 years or newer) can handle way more than what's incorperated here. ○ Superflats cannot be customised.... This one is awkward at best. There was this weird sort of knock-off game called SurvivalCraft for android phones. This obscure game DID have the option to customize flatworlds, back in 2012! Why doesn't Bedrock have this feature 10 years later? ○ Horse health bars appear to be *very* glitched? Sometimes individual horses will display two or three less hearts on the health bar than they normally do. This seems to sometimes be fixed by reloading the world. I'm pretty sure this is another glitch that Microsoft refuses to fix. It's a stubborn one.

[@maxwellli7057]

@@PVP1470 dude you've been writing that under every comment don't you have better things to do lmao

[@PVP1470]

@@maxwellli7057 well you probably don't have better things to do either!

[@mwezi4193]

Another issue in bedrock is villagers despawning. I always make a villager farm in my MC worlds, but every time I try in bedrock they despawn in the most jarring way. I've turned around for seconds and they despawn right in front of me. It ruined 4 of my worlds, I even used nametags to try and stop it and it didn't work. after that I just gave up on bedrock.

[@AliCatGtz]

Same here, animals have also disappeared for me but at a slower rate. It’s really disheartening.

[@Saskidan]

That has happened to me on Java. Also villagers passing through walls and ending up outside.

[@AL4N22_PELIT]

For me villagers never despawn, even without name tags, I personally had no idea people even had this issue (I'm on bedrock).

[@Slackbot]

I used to have this problem. Then I started restricting them to single chunks and that fixed the problem.

[@magma_fire_bagwan]

I've seen Villagers suddenly change Trades before.

[@Poagoo]

I not saying that game breaking bugs don’t exist, but I don’t think I’ve run into a bug playing Bedrock in my entire time spent with the game (since it came to Xbox One). I’ve played it on phones, every console, and PC, and never even had a small bug, let alone a major one. This is something I only hear from people who exclusively play Java.

[@SullenSecret]

Once again, Microsoft is the problem. They are notorious these days.

[@AntVenom]

I agree.

[@SullenSecret]

@@AntVenom - I think it's a small mystery why people play the Bedrock edition in such high numbers. Sure, Microsoft wants them to for money reasons, but that doesn't seem like enough of an answer.

[@dodgeneon8093]

@@SullenSecret cause its the only version for phone and console users

[@SullenSecret]

@@dodgeneon8093 - You're right. A simple web search showed me that it's the only version on anything besides a PC. Ouch.

[@StuffandThings_]

Part of the reason I refuse to migrate my Java Mojang account to a Micro$oft one. The fact that its forced is just incredibly shady, and I can't even begin to imagine how much data harvesting they do now. Supposedly 1.18 added back in snooper settings, but they quietly hid it and you can't turn it off now. Micro$oft truly only cares about money and influence.

[@Savariable]

Earlier today I checked bug reports to see if a bug was reported when I logged onto the realm I was on, and literally logged on to the death screen. I checked it, there was a bug report from 3 years ago. It was marked as resolved as a duplicate. I checked what it was a duplicate of, and it was a completely different bug that was also old of someone logging on and suddenly being at cloud level and dying to fall damage. They literally marked it as a duplicate of a completely different bug.

[@mooing_cowmilk]

happened to me too, I bug a bug about structures not able to generate below certain y values but it was marked as the mountain gen bug

[@AlteFore]

I've been wildly disappointed with Mojang recently. They've been over promising and then seriously under delivering.

[@SirToaster9330]

Mojang is officially the worst company ever

[@vormiam9242]

@@SirToaster9330 Nah that's EA, closely followed by Bethesda.

[@SirToaster9330]

@@vormiam9242 nope Mojang is worst

[@Amber7H]

@@SirToaster9330 microsoft is worse, not only do they own mojang which has this scummy bs but they also own other stuff which makes them worse

[@tiekogalaxylatte8839]

heh "wildly"

[@davidvelox224]

I’m on bedrock and I died just teleporting to the Neither. Died as soon as I popped up in the neither. So annoying

[@StarryInkArt]

I really hope this isn't the beginning of the end, Minecraft was doing so well starting from the Village and Pillage update/ Nether Update as well as the Part 1 of Caves and Cliffs (partly), but this update besides the deep Dark was alittle lackluster. I expected more types of caves like the lush biomes (maybe ice caves, nether caves (that have Nether based items inside, and different types of caves that allow you to get more of other materials but are rare like diamond caves. Maybe some more cave Mobs, like Zombies/Skeletons/ Creepers that are taken over by Sculk. There's so much that could've been done, even new Sculk monsters besides the Warden. I hope they fix their act and go back to the way they dedicated to previous updates. (P.s I feel like they are just like "People LOVEEE Minecraft, they would take anything we give them now!" Which isn't true because the reason people love it in the first place is due to its creativity and simplicity mixed in to create something amazing in the minds of fans)

[@Wasa-qo7vn]

They need to add more uses to existing items not add more single use items. Single use items such as rabbit hides, glistening melons, fletcher tables, and almost flint. (I find it useful enough to the point that I need it occasionally)They also need to add more diversity, nice and super squeaky polished biomes are nice, but in the end, it is a single biome.

[@StarryInkArt]

@@Wasa-qo7vn Agreed! Those additions would be nice too, but of course rare items make the game challenging in a way, so maybe keep some of them like the Totem of Undying etc. I understand your point though! It would've been cool to see a new type of totem, Mobs or maybe new mob editions and game mechanics like the ones in Minecraft Dungeons.💕🌟

[@Wasa-qo7vn]

@@StarryInkArt Well of course hard to get and useful items are necessary to any game. But I would like the idea of fleshing out the item progression before we add a ton of new random high-tier items. Adding more stuff at the bottom and middle part of the tree before the top. Like making copper and amethyst a more prominent part of the game. I know I think twice before breaking those two specific resources. Then thinking twice again before bringing them back to my base. By adding some more uses to copper and amethyst it would bring more meaning to them. Have you ever gone to a desert to specifically acquire some rabbit hides? Or back to the dripstone caves after you gathered a stack of dripstone? The item system need to be overhauled before adding a crazy new level of tech or items. Also we need more inventory space.

[@mirzapramudya1580]

Ehh, if it fell down well just need a popular KZbinr to remind us this GOAT exists... Just like PewDiePie did

[@MsSniggel]

Mojang would have to make a whole new minecraft lol

[@catcadev]

Honestly after 1.17-19 I think Mojang has some seriously huge PR and change to do. I trust the Java people will be able to circumvent these issues eventually. As for Bedrock, erm, I don't play Bedrock.

[@Pantheroo]

who even plays bedrock xD

[@fab5haus]

I used to play on pc for years... For the past 2 or 3 years I've been on bedrock, and it's actually pathetic 😒

[@Phosphorite05]

I played bedrock once. I didn’t like it. The controls with a controller felt bad. The game just felt different.

[@DigitalHandle]

@@Pantheroo me.

[@DigitalHandle]

@@Pantheroo and also people who don't have a pc or people who have a pc but prefer bedrock because thats the version they are used to

[@SomeThingNew7410]

Bro... as an exclusively Java edition player I had no idea whatsoever that these issues ever even existed. Mind blowing honestly.