The downfall of the Pirates franchise was CRAZY

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cainvarner

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@asorlokirunarsson9864
@asorlokirunarsson9864 2 ай бұрын
The trilogy is a masterpiece. Dead Man's Chest is even better than the first one imo
@asorlokirunarsson9864
@asorlokirunarsson9864 2 ай бұрын
They should have started a new trilogy with Black Beard as the villain throughout and just have him be a regular pirate. Black Beard is actually a character that we have information on from real life so why not build off of that? Have him be towering over the other pirates, lighting his beard on fire, being a savvy business man and maybe even stabbing the pirate council in the back, blowing them all up (except our heroes of course). Instead we got a guy with a magical sword and a zombie crew
@zackarysteinmetz4019
@zackarysteinmetz4019 Ай бұрын
K
@eastonenroth2366
@eastonenroth2366 27 күн бұрын
I didn’t mind the magic aspects that much it kinda fits with the franchise
@asorlokirunarsson9864
@asorlokirunarsson9864 27 күн бұрын
@@eastonenroth2366 you're not wrong and don't get me wrong magic isn't bad in and of itself. I just feel like we've been there and done that so maybe give us something new I guess
@eastonenroth2366
@eastonenroth2366 27 күн бұрын
@@asorlokirunarsson9864 yeah, but you gotta admit that black beard was a lot more original than Salazar
@asorlokirunarsson9864
@asorlokirunarsson9864 27 күн бұрын
@@eastonenroth2366 I guess. Not really a high bar tho. At least Salazar was menacing. I did not find him threatening like Davy Jones or interesting like Barbossa. Just didn't work for me I guess
@lakernation26
@lakernation26 2 ай бұрын
Elizabeth had 3 men fighting for her in the 3 way battle with norrignton on the water wheel, I think that’s what makes pirates 2 so memorable and my favorite, that 3 way battle is so creative
@captaink3944
@captaink3944 2 ай бұрын
Damn I have to go rewatch the OG trilogy bc you're 1000% correct
@cayreet5992
@cayreet5992 2 ай бұрын
The shortest answer to the 'why' is 'Hollywood studios (all of them) are controlled by the finance advisors and they want the safe option, which is to stay with IPs that have proven financially successful in the past.' That is why we get loads of Marvel each year and Disney keeps doing their live-action remakes of their animation catalogue. Hollywood is not taking the risk that would be making something new - they leave that to small studios and buy the IP if it proves to be good.
@yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi
@yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi 2 ай бұрын
As an aspiring screen writer, I find this depressing. At this rate, no studio will want to EVER touch my work, because it isn't part of the mold they work with.
@Ayem427
@Ayem427 2 ай бұрын
Almost like monopoly is a bad thing, and Hollywood needs to be seriously challenged
@barry4649
@barry4649 2 ай бұрын
@@yorgivon-schmourgeussborgiit makes it more difficult but what you need to do is write some great low budget scripts, maybe work with a promising young director and then when you or they become acclaimed you’ll get the big budgets
@sophiecooper1824
@sophiecooper1824 2 ай бұрын
I love the Geoffrey Rush appreciation, he's my favorite of these movie and he's what makes 4 and 5 watchable
@Cryinginthecloudssss
@Cryinginthecloudssss 2 ай бұрын
my main memory of pirates of the Caribbean is my dad setting up surround sound in order to watch the movies. & the game boy game we had, never did get passed island 3 in that game
@Jaymo00
@Jaymo00 Ай бұрын
I had the game boy game too! I never really understood how to play and i would get stuck on the levels but still thought it was cool :P
@theonesithtorulethemall
@theonesithtorulethemall Ай бұрын
The one where u culd bird ships as jack and actually fight with the suhip??? I loves the sea combat
@anyaaa2801
@anyaaa2801 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved the final sea battle in the third movie. I just find the CGI being amazing and satisfying.
@chessmesstime
@chessmesstime 2 ай бұрын
7:21 i think it’s because of the lighting. Modern Marvel movies have the worst lighting, I swear. They’re all so flat and lifeless.
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 2 ай бұрын
YUP YUP. lighting and color make such a difference
@RusticRonnie
@RusticRonnie 26 күн бұрын
Its also because, new films use almost exclusively CGI, where these used the actors face blended into the CGI as references. Also the fact that the characters is basically designed to look good in CGI, non-Human wet and shiny is all of CGI’s strengths.
@lakernation26
@lakernation26 2 ай бұрын
Dead mans chest was the best one IMO. It had an empire strikes back feeling especially with the end. Just 1-3 works so well but 2 is just special
@kingDowahs
@kingDowahs 2 ай бұрын
Pirates 1 is one of my favourite films of all time, and the second and third were also amazing The Fifth was none of the above
@GRogers4097
@GRogers4097 2 ай бұрын
I too love the first three films, and I always liked the 4th one as well. But 5 was so disappointing that I’m still not over it. Though I guess when you’re a long time fan that might seem normal for most people.
@kingDowahs
@kingDowahs Ай бұрын
@@GRogers4097 The Fourth was good too, but yeah I’ll never forgive the fifth one for butchering the franchise
@bradhaley8432
@bradhaley8432 2 ай бұрын
As for me, I've personally liked 4 of the pirates of the Caribbean movies, but i really love pirates of the Caribbean at worlds end. I still have all 5 on Blu-ray.
@Matttalksfilm
@Matttalksfilm 2 ай бұрын
At world's end is a masterpiece. I had dead man's chest on Dvd and used to watch it all the time genuinely a Masterpiece. They should do a prequel involving younger versions of all the characters.
@missinglink4202
@missinglink4202 Ай бұрын
I'll never forget Jacks introduction 😅 so perfect, had my dad chuckling
@lexievans1767
@lexievans1767 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t realize they had 2 additional films to begin with 😂
@Trash2000s
@Trash2000s 27 күн бұрын
They didnt have them to begin with, they made them after the first 3
@RusticRonnie
@RusticRonnie 26 күн бұрын
The films had pretty long gaps. 2003 - 2006 - 2007 original trilogy 2011 - 2017 the later films.
@kylemitchell541
@kylemitchell541 20 күн бұрын
Yeah ok
@dragonhunter1315
@dragonhunter1315 2 ай бұрын
Dead Men Tell No Tales is definitely the worst one in the Pirates franchise for me (and that hurts, since i've been a fan of the PotC since 2006), and it goes beyond just Johnny Depp's off-portrayal of Jack Sparrow, since the film isn't even written by either Ted Elliot or Terry Rossio. Rossio wrote a completely different script for the film back in 2012 (which i've read several times by this point, and man, does it feel like a better movie in comparison), but it was rejected mainly because it featured a female villain, and another film Depp was starring in at that time, Dark Shadows, also had a female villain in it, and he thought it would be redundant. Jeff Nathanson, the guy who wrote the final version of the film, basically made a soft-reboot film that ended up retconing much of the franchise's lore
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 2 ай бұрын
oh i had it wrong. i thought Terry wrote the fifth
@seveng1147
@seveng1147 2 ай бұрын
@@cainvarneryou weren’t wrong.. the original comment is literally making things up
@GRogers4097
@GRogers4097 2 ай бұрын
I disliked what Jeff Nathanson did for this movie. He seems like a nice guy, but I’ve struggled to forgive him for what he did to Jack Sparrow, and his entire script just felt like one big parody with no real purpose but to mock and insult the franchise, and even worse, its fans. And it didn’t help that the directors did just as poorly with making this movie, and the whole cast just looked like they didn’t want to be there. It’s so incredibly frustrating. But hey, at least we have the first four right?
@dragonhunter1315
@dragonhunter1315 2 ай бұрын
@@GRogers4097 Definitely. I've watched the original 4 films dozens of times over the years, and i can always pretend we live in a world where Rossio's script was turned into a film, and we got Dead Men Tell No Tales we should have. Nathanson does seem like a nice guy, but it seems like he's generally the guy hired to write a reboot of a film or something, since he also wrote the Lion King live-action remake
@funkey6737
@funkey6737 Ай бұрын
​@dragonhunter1315 how did you get the script would you mind sharing a link or how you got it?
@AuraLeafstorm
@AuraLeafstorm 2 ай бұрын
I think if the 4th and 5th Pirates films didn't exist people would be looking back on this franchise a lot more fondly. Those first three films really were fantastic, and it should've just stayed a trilogy. People seem to forget these days that this franchise basically singlehandedly rekindled public interest in the pirate genre during the 2000s, all on its own. It was a big deal. ...This might sound like a weird idea (and I know it'll never happen) but I think this franchise would actually lend itself really well to animation. Disney doesn't really dabble much in animation aimed at a PG-14 audience, but I think something like that could breathe new life into a franchise that's no longer working in its current state.
@femkehuibers2183
@femkehuibers2183 2 ай бұрын
Its a great day when cainvarner uploads🎉😊
@malfoyrocks
@malfoyrocks 2 ай бұрын
stranger tides literally feels like a side quest, 1-3 are bangers. 5 the only good part was will and elizabeth came back
@tytayn1um664
@tytayn1um664 2 ай бұрын
The compass doesn’t point to Jack because he’s what Elizabeth wants, it points to Jack to reaffirm to her and the audience that he’s the way to get back to Will.
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 2 ай бұрын
interesting take
@oldkingspook
@oldkingspook 2 ай бұрын
I was going to see the fifth movie in theaters with my sister but we decided on the drive there it wasn't worth our time. I still haven't seen it to this day.
@GRogers4097
@GRogers4097 2 ай бұрын
Good choice.
@girvitza
@girvitza 2 ай бұрын
I read something online that may or may not be true regarding Gore Verbinski the director of pirates 1 thru 3 that he stated after the 3rd instalment that was it for his story. Disney of course who is a money hungry juggernaut wanted the franchise to keep going but verbinski didn’t want to return as director, thus showing that pirates 4 and 5 were complete downfalls, Altho I have rewatched them a couple times in recent years cuz it’s pirates and I like the action, but the trilogy will always be goated and my favourite of them all
@6percentbattery
@6percentbattery 2 ай бұрын
OKAY PRODUCTION VALUE 🎉🎉🎉loving the format. I hope you’re able to mix this video essay format in with your classic format (which I love!). I also loved the topic of this video because it’s so true: the trilogy was pretty much perfect. I’m glad to listen to someone who agrees with me 😂 and the length of the video is 👌🏾 great job i really loved this
@DrownedLamp
@DrownedLamp 2 ай бұрын
I said no lies! I think he's telling the truth.
@bunniixbee
@bunniixbee 2 ай бұрын
This video has convinced me to watch all the movies
@manuelludlow5976
@manuelludlow5976 2 ай бұрын
Dude, I seen these movies when they first came out in the movie theaters as a kid and I didn’t actually appreciate them for what they are today as an adult looking back. They truly are some last great movies at Disney is put out as far as physical acting goes tell me if I’m wrong.
@BriannaBow
@BriannaBow 2 ай бұрын
We are blessed today 👐
@Tyranidus7
@Tyranidus7 2 ай бұрын
For me, 5 easily is the worst of the entire franchise. Yes 4 has a lot of problems and feels like a side quest, but at least it does understand its characters. 5's complete misunderstanding of Jack Sparrow as a character is just baffling, especially coming from one of the original writers. As you said about the first film, Jack's core character trait is his ability to think out of any situation he finds himself in. Jack in the 5th movie couldn't think his way out of a paper back. Jack always played the fool in the first 4 movies in order to disarm the people around him and manipulate them to do what he wants. The 3rd movie being the pinnacle of his manipulations getting everyone exactly where he wants them when he wants them there. The 5th movie Jack is a drunk that relies on sheer dumb luck to get his way, the only way he survives the guillotine scene is through Disney's Goofy's levels of dumb luck. The Jack of the first 4 movies would never have gotten into the guillotine in the first place.
@josephking8186
@josephking8186 2 ай бұрын
I remember how apparently the trident in the 5th movie was the controller of all sea curses and breaking it destroyed all magic in the oceans.
@raisinbrandon9954
@raisinbrandon9954 2 ай бұрын
Haven't even seen the movies just here for cainvarner 🎉
@GlitchyHalo
@GlitchyHalo 2 ай бұрын
Salazar had potential but instead was a Davy Jones ripoff it’s like disney regretted killing him off Dead Men Tell No Tales had so many inconsistencies from Will’s appearance changing despite him doing his duties to how Jack got his compass to the guillotine etc
@unamisthekgb
@unamisthekgb Ай бұрын
There is no pirates of the Caribbean without gore verbinsky...
@ShinobiShaun
@ShinobiShaun 2 ай бұрын
Curse of the Black Pearl has to be one of if not the best action/adventure movie ever made.
@Medusa0999
@Medusa0999 2 ай бұрын
Saying it now, pirates should go on to be a Disney plus series. Episodic, multiple historical, rude references and folk lore figures making appearances. It would work so much better
@Zerovin
@Zerovin Ай бұрын
After what Disney did with the national treasure series, I don't want them to touch a potential pirates series
@gary12from108
@gary12from108 Ай бұрын
Not to mention the filth film completely breaks the canon of how Jack got the compass. It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure Calypso gave him the compass but in the 5th film Jack took it from the captain. I hate hate hate retcons on that level.
@thenerddesk111
@thenerddesk111 2 ай бұрын
I feel like stranger tides is two different movie shoved together. There could have easily been a movie about the fountain of youth, and then something like the British employing pirates for something. And throw Blackbeard in there too, could’ve been awesome in my opinion.
@xJDMWaRRi0Rx
@xJDMWaRRi0Rx Ай бұрын
1,2,and 5 are the only ones that actually stuck in memory for me, due to the performances in each
@MuzikFreak161
@MuzikFreak161 25 күн бұрын
Pirates of the Caribbean is a trilogy to me. The rest is fan fiction.
@thompsonnoel
@thompsonnoel 2 ай бұрын
The Margot Robbie Pirates movie has a simple explanation. Margot Robbie is a fan of the original movies, Margot Robbie wants to play a pirate and Margot Robbie gets to do whatever she wants because she is untouchable rn.
@HeatherHolt
@HeatherHolt 2 ай бұрын
Loving the style but I do miss the board and the wand ❤
@Mixhelle.n
@Mixhelle.n 2 ай бұрын
The fifth one feels the most like a Disney movie. The characters feel more cartoonish then usual and the adult jokes are more obvious instead of being smartly hidden in the dialogue like the first three movies.
@Glo_bwoy
@Glo_bwoy 2 ай бұрын
Worlds End my fav 🖤 🥰🤞so good
@horatiohuffnagel7978
@horatiohuffnagel7978 2 ай бұрын
The 4th and 5th were ok but nothing to write home about. I love the dialogue the most about the trilogy. The way they talk they're almost dueling with words. Its awesome.
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 2 ай бұрын
this is on point
@rebekarenes2938
@rebekarenes2938 2 ай бұрын
one of the greatest trilogies ever, the third was actually my favorite!! at world's end just had so many amazing parts to it and of course the music was just impeccable
@marshallnelson6127
@marshallnelson6127 23 күн бұрын
I also think one of the biggest parts of why they were successful is the score of Pirates. EVERYONE knows what the main theme is from when they hear it.
@itsgomez1
@itsgomez1 2 ай бұрын
Could not agree more with this video. I only ever count the first three, the last 2 do not count/exist to me
@Alex-j9p2w
@Alex-j9p2w Ай бұрын
Jack sparro, is closer dan you tink… (insert Epic jack sparrow music)
@slendermanthefiction6034
@slendermanthefiction6034 2 ай бұрын
Davy jones acting and that soundtrack is unmatched!!!!!
@Nick-ub3bh
@Nick-ub3bh Ай бұрын
The 4th one deserves more praising.
@selwrynn6702
@selwrynn6702 18 күн бұрын
It would've been nice if they took On Stranger Tides & stretched it out to be a trilogy, focusing on Ian McShane as the antagonist & building Blackbeard and Angelica up over the 3 films, and as part of that maybe use Will & Elizabeth's son as one of the characters in a similar role as Will was initially. If you did it this way you could also build up the Spanish more as they were incredibly powerful in the Caribbean for much of the age of exploration but the first 3 films focused entirely on the British navy. I don't have any specific ideas for how to execute this, but with something as significant as the Fountain of Youth I think you could justify 2 movies of build up to finding it, and maybe you could justify using its power as a way to free Will from the Flying Dutchman as the power of eternal youth might off-set the death that would be caused by him quitting the Dutchman or something, I ain't a writer but I think you could make something happen there pretty convincingly.
@lyricsmania11
@lyricsmania11 2 ай бұрын
I’ve gotta dissociate the actors from the characters from this series and it’s one of my favourites 😢
@lfsantacruz8703
@lfsantacruz8703 2 ай бұрын
The first movie honestly used to be one of my favorites. But yeah, the actors ruined it for me. Why can't celebrities just be friggin normal? I actually saw Get Him to the Greek pop-up in reference somewhere, and I totally forgot that movie existed, but I was like, "Holy shit, that was a whole cast of trash."
@seveng1147
@seveng1147 2 ай бұрын
Geoffrey rush is great.. Johnny depp is great… Kiara knightly is great.. Orlando bloom is great.. Kevin McNally… bill nighy..Stellan skarsgaard… the cast is absolutely tremendous
@TeamBOBBYEE
@TeamBOBBYEE 2 ай бұрын
Literally who tf are you taking about
@chewy_bucca
@chewy_bucca 2 ай бұрын
*disassociate
@lfsantacruz8703
@lfsantacruz8703 2 ай бұрын
​@seveng1147 imagine openly supporting Johnny depp in 2024. 🤡
@debilepskihiphop
@debilepskihiphop 27 күн бұрын
Most filmsshould just stop as trilogies, and pirates is a prime example of that. 1,2 and 3 connect up together pretty nicely, and by the time the 4th comes around, it's almost like they tried to reset. Not everything needs a fourth and fifth, star wars certainly didn't need another trilogy, and rumours of another? Oh dear
@luxluther436
@luxluther436 Ай бұрын
I’ve always loved the 4th one but I 100% understand the hate
@dollarsignmexican
@dollarsignmexican 2 ай бұрын
It's rewatching time.
@kodamckenzie
@kodamckenzie 2 ай бұрын
aye aye cap'n whatever u say
@megalomari
@megalomari 2 ай бұрын
I never grew up with these movies but I recently watched them with my family and I became obssessed with the trilogy!! I absolutely adore them, it's such a shame the direction it went after them....... I'm biased because I am an animator, but I'm surprised there hasn't yet been an animated series!! (well, not so surprising with the state the animation industry is right now) I would absolutely love to see one! It doesn't have to have the same characters as always, they could be new but based in the same universe..... Wasted opportunity in my opinion!
@paigehansen8944
@paigehansen8944 2 ай бұрын
Holy cow I guess I haven’t seen either of the new films, I think I’ll stick to that habit going forward (:
@vincentveryvile5051
@vincentveryvile5051 2 күн бұрын
I'd say some of the reasons why 4 and 5 failed is because it's missing our Goofy Goobers, Pintel and Raggetti! I'm so glad that in the Lego game, I can play as them in Stranger Tides as I please. I found it kind of sweet that Barbossa had a daughter and probably other kids that he's not aware of, but his sacrifice was like a symbol of the death of the POTC movies. And I don't know if it irks anyone else, but I feel like the Black Pearl looked smaller in part 5. And it really annoyed me as I watched it that one time only. Seeing Jack hold The Pearl up like a model ship is like me with my Mega Bloks Black Pearl (Which I still Have). And having it thrown into the sea didn't make it as big as the OG ship. It's really sad to see this happen to my favorite franchise. POTC was probably my first movie I ever saw when I was a child and it shaped me into the young man I am now. They need to apologize to Depp and fix this now.
@happynealltdpolly
@happynealltdpolly 2 ай бұрын
Ooh i forgot how much i loved the trilogy
@VOLDGAMER1
@VOLDGAMER1 22 күн бұрын
pirates 1 - 3: flawless trilogy, well written, and amazing action scenes pirates 4: not awful but could have been a bit better pirates 5: make it stop
@ryanelliott71698
@ryanelliott71698 Ай бұрын
If they wanted a trilogy idea, why not have the 2nd be the end of piracy like it did in our world. It could’ve been this unbeatable force that some would have to grasp with in a variety of ways, accepting it or trying to defy it only to lose.
@FanThemePark
@FanThemePark Ай бұрын
I actually quite like On Stranger Tides but I do hate the mermaid romance side plot. I'd rank them: 1. Curse of the Black Pearl 2. Dead Man's Chest 3. On Stranger Tides 4. At World's End 5. Dead Men Tell No Tales (this one is a massive jump down from the others)
@christianpetersen6771
@christianpetersen6771 2 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinions: 1. I hated the trilogy finale. While the maelstorm was nice - 2 fleets showing up to the battle to do nothing at all but a staredown was disapointing at least. 2. I cant remember anything from 4. And I still hate everything about it. 3. The first time I saw 5 I was so into Salazar, because I liked the Idea that getting cursed wasnt a pirate previledge. Imo it really was innovative to the story overall and added depth to the worldbuilding. But on a second view I couldnt oversee salazars weak motivation and the whole children problem from being unlikeable to not fitting into the cast at all.
@jarrodedson5441
@jarrodedson5441 2 ай бұрын
The first 2 are amazing in my opinion, the third film is kinda a downgrade but still enjoyable (i mainly liked any scene with jack and Barbossa and davy jones), thr 4th one is enjoyable but feels slightly off....at least it felt like a pirates of the caribbean film, where the 5th film was so abysmal that i never want Disney to continue this franchise
@Maniac61675
@Maniac61675 2 ай бұрын
Downgrade with the best soundtrack, cinematography, set design and set pieces of the franchise ? Sure.
@legerdokai581
@legerdokai581 Ай бұрын
If you want a fantastic deep dive into Jack Sparrow's character, you should read the prequel novel The Price of Freedom by A.C. Crispin.
@madi7178
@madi7178 2 ай бұрын
Forgive me but I really liked parts of the 5th one. They needed much better casting for the main leads. The villian was terrifying but somehow still funny loved the back story and to see consequences of Jack being Jack. Though yes Barbossa and Jack felt off. I also liked the final act setting way too much. I had no clue where they were going with that one but to me it felt so much like a Pirates mid act finale. Hated that the killed off Barbossa tho, there was no need for that. I also really like the idea of Barbossa’s kid and Elizabeth’s kid getting together. Mostly because I was always touched how Elizabeth was almost a protege of Barbossa’s in a way.
@AntiSocialismo50
@AntiSocialismo50 Ай бұрын
The perfect trilogy. Fun characters and a fun world
@hungnguyenquang7247
@hungnguyenquang7247 2 ай бұрын
To be honest i like potc 4 and this franchise should stop right there
@GRogers4097
@GRogers4097 2 ай бұрын
I agree. I’ve always felt that 4 is a bit over hated. Just like the Star Wars prequels, it might not be perfect, but it’s still good.
@oragamiowl5031
@oragamiowl5031 Ай бұрын
The movies got bloated, the writers/directors forgot what made them special and they became so boring.
@goodbye7236
@goodbye7236 2 ай бұрын
I love the first film but I still find it annoying that they paint corsets (stays) in a bad light but I look past it because I love the film
@HumbleTeller
@HumbleTeller 28 күн бұрын
I did not care for the Davy Jones and the East India Company storyline. 4 and 5 I found more enjoyable because they were more simple pirate adventures. Blackbeard was really good and I have a soft spot for 5 for giving Barbosa so much spotlight
@movethebox1503
@movethebox1503 2 ай бұрын
Will reminds me of Jon snow and Elizabeth looks like she can play a younger Cersei
@rastimo2625
@rastimo2625 23 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, while the CGI is incredible in these films, especially Davy Jones, it was the start of severe crunch culture in the animation industry. Many animators cite the 2nd film as causing so much distress based on the terrible deadlines forced on them by supervisors. This has directly continued into today’s films, which leads to shorter deadlines and shoddier final products, which explains why so many modernly look flat.
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr Ай бұрын
I was done after the 3rd one.
@YukioKokoko
@YukioKokoko Ай бұрын
19:13 im not really sure whats being implied here. JD won the AH vs JD case and i followed it quite closely since it was livestreamed and it was proved that AH was defamining JD all this time. The article you showed is about JD vs sun newspaper, not AH. Disney just believed AH and decided to boot him out, and JD has stated that no matter how much or what ever Disney would offer he would not be returning to Pirates of the caribbean.
@cainvarner
@cainvarner Ай бұрын
what’s being implied is that his image is still ruined despite proving his innocence
@podrekreinhard
@podrekreinhard Ай бұрын
​​@@cainvarner its only "ruined" among a vocal minority of terminally online people who made the AH v JD case into some sort of "me too" hill to die on. A lot of hollywood big wigs were begging him to return to projects they removed him from and he basically told them to fuck off. Since then a lot of writers and directors have been trying to work with him but he has been refusing work where people involved knowingly spread lies and talked shit about him during that case.
@cainvarner
@cainvarner Ай бұрын
but there are still lots of people who do not believe him and so yes. his reputation is most definitely ruined. as much as we loved him in his previous films, he’s not ever coming back. it’s been years since he’s had a hit anyway and so that paired with the UK trial finding him guilty of being a wife beater means no one’s willing to chance it at this point.
@podrekreinhard
@podrekreinhard Ай бұрын
@@cainvarner except he is currently working on 2 films and already put out a film last year
@cainvarner
@cainvarner Ай бұрын
@podrekreinhard point to the last time depp led a huge film franchise tho… the big studios don’t want him because he’s a flight risk at this point. not saying he can’t come back from it, but he’s mostly doing indies for a reason…
@Gorslax
@Gorslax Ай бұрын
Arrg, call me a pirate the way I treasure her chest. 😣
@LplGaming
@LplGaming 25 күн бұрын
i actually like all of them
@randyjax09
@randyjax09 Ай бұрын
I hate Dead Men Tell No Tales so much. How could so many people behind its production botch Jack Sparrow (n2m the lore) so badly?
@declanshannon8561
@declanshannon8561 2 ай бұрын
Bro you didn't have to go so hawrd.
@rossjeffrey9281
@rossjeffrey9281 Ай бұрын
I genuinely hate the fifth film. The it is shocking, the script is so awful theres over the top humour thrown into scenes with the crew that just make it feel like its some parady film and makes them all look stupid. Jack is just not jack hes an idiot he just stumbles around after everyone, imagine if you showed someone this film first then the first film they wouldnt beleive it was the same character. It disregards the established backstory from other films and henry and carrina are just boring with nothing between them
@maxodonnell6092
@maxodonnell6092 2 ай бұрын
The main reason 4 and 5 are so bad is Jack is a main character. As in the older movies jack is a the main Supporting character. Which fit his character best
@notzipfy916
@notzipfy916 Ай бұрын
As much as I hate 4 and 5 I still watch them in my marathon. They’re really good “turn your brain off and watch the action” movies. Definitely not good movies by any means but I like to turn my brain off to them
@nbunnysnowboard
@nbunnysnowboard 2 ай бұрын
The 4th one is the only one I don’t rewatch
@GRogers4097
@GRogers4097 Ай бұрын
It’s the opposite for me. I watch and rewatch all four Pirates of the Caribbean movies, and that’s it. No more👍👍👍
@coltT2992
@coltT2992 Ай бұрын
Jack was on the sinking ship in the first film because he got it from the rum runners after barbossa marooned him
@cainvarner
@cainvarner Ай бұрын
they say that happened 10 years prior to the film…
@coltT2992
@coltT2992 Ай бұрын
@@cainvarner oh yeah
@coleballenger4595
@coleballenger4595 Ай бұрын
Okay, so, here are two pieces of (hopefully) constructive criticism: Firstly, you really need to run a find-and-replace for at least like 2/3 of the uses of the word "film" in this script. It's way too much as it is and would only help to spice up the wording more. Secondly, you don't need to say "in my opinion" so much (see "subjectivity is implied"). Besides that, great video. I'm definitely subscribing. :)
@cainvarner
@cainvarner Ай бұрын
@@coleballenger4595 literally what was the point of you saying this? like WHAT would you have me say when talking about a film other than the word “film”?
@azedk418
@azedk418 Ай бұрын
If they were to do another one. Honestly I would rather have a spin off instead of a continuation of the story we know. I love Jack Sparrow and especially Johnny. But that story is done and so (IMO) is Jacks.
@slendermanthefiction6034
@slendermanthefiction6034 2 ай бұрын
Love Davy jones and Tia Dalma both🖤
@nikkicoleman6709
@nikkicoleman6709 2 ай бұрын
If only there was a way to add a photo to the comments, I could show your fans/friends/followers your spectacular Captain Jack Halloween costume, circa 2017 😉 Love you Bub, great video! 💙
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 2 ай бұрын
oh lord😭 that was something alright!
@saltywater5097
@saltywater5097 Ай бұрын
You're gonna go with the reason why they're not using johnny depp is because his image isn't clean? Wow. Just wow to that.
@cainvarner
@cainvarner Ай бұрын
well yeah…his career has been permanently ruined because of 2 very high profile cases, of which, one found him guilty of being a wife beater… i’d say his public image isn’t clean after that
@saltywater5097
@saltywater5097 Ай бұрын
@@cainvarner He was found not guilty of the Amber heard stuff. What are you talking about?
@cainvarner
@cainvarner Ай бұрын
@saltywater5097 i’m no law student, but he was found guilty in the UK, many will see that and the very messy case, plus shared texts with other actors and still believe johnny is a wife beater. even though he “proved” that she had lied about some things, the first court case in the UK still proved him to be a wife beater. i don’t really care as much as everyone else though, so i wasn’t exactly paying that close of attention, could be wrong. but the point is, him claiming that she lied doesn’t inherently prove that he’s not a wife beater
@nancxboy666
@nancxboy666 2 ай бұрын
the only thing i liked about the 4th film was penelope cruz that’s about it, the rest is not that great so i didn’t even bother watching the 5th but the first 3 films will always be iconic even if i no longer support johnny depp
@SeanIgo
@SeanIgo 25 күн бұрын
There is nothing wrong with the 4th one. Nothing at all. Not every movie needs so much boom boom pow.
@I_am_a_cat_
@I_am_a_cat_ 10 күн бұрын
I only watch the first 3. The rest do not exist
@MarianaGarciaGrijalva
@MarianaGarciaGrijalva Ай бұрын
I hated the 5th film and will always consider the original trilogy to be the canon. The rest are just bad fanfics. Also, WHY would you put the PIRATE KING *back* in a dress??? Absolutely preposterous. Edited to fix typo.
@brianluisi7616
@brianluisi7616 2 ай бұрын
Major Problems started with 3 not 4, the third act goes off the rails, a marriage ceremony in the middle of a bloated 1 hour long third act of to much action
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 2 ай бұрын
that third act is perfect
@Maniac61675
@Maniac61675 2 ай бұрын
Garbage take.
@Prawnsacrifice
@Prawnsacrifice Ай бұрын
First film is the best pirate movie ever made but the rest are just pointless 😅
@AntiSocialismo50
@AntiSocialismo50 Ай бұрын
Nah, they are amazing
@makodowns7468
@makodowns7468 2 ай бұрын
when is the next shameless video out?????
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 2 ай бұрын
november
@captaink3944
@captaink3944 2 ай бұрын
🌈💖✨️
@MuzikFreak161
@MuzikFreak161 Ай бұрын
As far as I’m concerned, Pirates is a trilogy. The rest is bad fan fiction
@Prawnsacrifice
@Prawnsacrifice Ай бұрын
See to me its only one movie 😅
@AntiSocialismo50
@AntiSocialismo50 Ай бұрын
​@@Prawnsacrifice its your problem
@jodenise894
@jodenise894 2 ай бұрын
Was? It is not over … Disney is planning on making an all females cast movie .💀
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 2 ай бұрын
that would be so cool if they just like didn’t market it as a POTC film tbh
@treepop9907
@treepop9907 18 күн бұрын
The one reason it failed he said hes not going to talk about... whats the point
@cainvarner
@cainvarner 17 күн бұрын
huh?
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