The DOWNWARD SPIRAL of T-ara's Ahreum

[@ploopy678]

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[@brandoniswhoiam]

A 2-PARTER?! Come through! ❤

[@lavenderirisi]

I wish you would add English subtitles to your videos, it would be so helpful for people hard of hearing or deaf. I know you put such a large amount of effort into your videos already, and I really appreciate this type of informative content.❤

[@ploopy678]

​@@lavenderirisi Hi! I believe youtube does auto-generate captions, but it might just take a while! I just tried clicking on it and it works now 🥰

[@Wjkcake]

​@@ploopy678! hey about T-ara's company making weird, I heard that T-ara's Company was trying to make T-ara as a 9 members group just like Girls' Generation, and a trainee called Dani was supposed to be 9th member of T-ara but never got to debut because of Hwayoung scandal

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[@Jjkvys]

"Oh I feel bad for Ahreum.." *a few minutes later* "shit who do i feel bad for 😭"

[@zacharikurbah6358]

That’s what my thoughts were also but after seeing her disturbing posts on her IG account, I’m like ‘damn, she needs to get help’

[@ovrlk811]

You shouldn’t feel bad at all for these kpop idols, stay neutral.

[@ClubPuguin]

@@ovrlk811 yeah at least until you have a clear grasp of whatever situation is going on(which are hard to come by).

[@roguecodes]

I feel bad for her kids

[@evamariegapulan3510]

I personally feel bad for her children because in one way or another they were caught in the middle of all this

[@clover4ever7]

This just proves that if the group is getting popular, the company shouldn't add more members.

[@SamEricLlort]

They needed a rapper so they added Hwayoung.

[@minxbella9342]

@@SamEricLlortbut honestly speaking Hyomin is already doing a great job at that tbh

[@xrrgr]

@@SamEricLlort she was bad at it though

[@fionn9816]

@@minxbella9342 wasnt eunjung always seen as the main rapper of t-ara?

[@minxbella9342]

@@fionn9816 yup but she also can sing.. Honestly all members of T-ara is multi talented tbh

[@nayeon4123]

You should definetly do a video talking about the Unit, since that survival show was something else. From having legends as mentos, letting trainees who hadn’t even debuted yet or had no experience at all in the show participate when it was marketed as giving failed idols a second chance, rigging, extremely horrible working environment, and how both groups failed which is ironic giving the show was marketed as giving a failed idol a “second chance”. Also the fact that it went from getting higher ratings then Produce 101 s2 during the beggining to low ratings towards the end.

[@pinguuthepenguin]

You got hearted by her! I think she's planning it rn

[@shuu-wasseo]

i hope she does it.. i never got to watch the unit but i keep hearing abt how messy it was

[@jackietang3789]

@@shuu-wasseothe show failed in its objective because both groups never achieved the popularity the show was aiming for but at least the main thing is it kept its promise to debut both a boy and girl group which is something Mess Nine didn’t even do and failed to keep its promise in

[@jackietang3789]

It didn’t help the show aired at a bad time as well for the entire country of SK as a whole, if you know you know

[@nayeon4123]

@@jackietang3789the fact that both shows were actually airing at the same time😭

[@Wjkcake]

I heard that T-ara's Company was trying to make T-ara as a 9 members group just like Girls' Generation, and a trainee called Dani was supposed to be 9th member of T-ara but never got to debut because of Hwayoung scandal

[@animetwilight75]

woahh you just unlocked memories from deep within! i completely forgot they were trying to debut Dani, there were so many headlines for that back then

[@_GunpowdertheGabite]

@@animetwilight75 she was in one of the music videos too as one of the main characters

[@JJBB-h7h]

She was my favorite in produce 101

[@Wjkcake]

Ploopy should do the next "Unluckiest kpop idol" video about DANI

[@mgcuniverse9037]

Dani was on Produce 101 and she competed alongside members of DIA

[@runa_7022]

weird how both added members ended up being terrible people 😭😭😭

[@greenheqrt]

yep

[@TheBub26]

if it ain't broke, don't fix it. words of wisdom

[@em_3tic]

WORDD

[@ozzie3126]

AHAHAHAHAHA

[@SamEricLlort]

Hwayoung was the only T ARA member that could rap, so I understand why they added her. Her rap in Day by Day was good.

[@xrrgr]

@@SamEricLlort lol, not a good enough reason

[@OneProudBBC]

@@SamEricLlort I can also claim that Hyomin can rap just as well!

[@sakuraa1770]

I really think MBK Entertainment really messed but by not protecting the members during the bullying scandal. All of that hate probably really messed up with Ahreum's head, especially since she was only just out of her teenage years. Obviously none of that justifies any of her horrible behavior afterward though. I might be overthinking it, but I feel like she now has this perpetual desire to be seen as a victim since she wasn't in the actual instance where she was innocent.

[@jackietang3789]

Yeah I don’t condone or excuse her actions but the catalyst for it can all be traced back to MBK over a decade ago

[@jackietang3789]

In general though just unfortunate all around that it ruined her mental state especially since like you said she was only just barely out of her teenage years at the time

[@mishababernathy7165]

I mean, with the way k pop fans bully idols for even the smallest thing… when the bullying scandal happened, the messages she received and the hundreds if not thousands of vile death threats and horrible posts on the internet directed at her… of course that would mess her up. Same, i’m not justifying the things she did after it, but if you’re in an industry where they abused you and showed the best way to succeed is to abuse others, i guess she thought that would be the best way to act… (i’m not a k-pop fan btw, my friend is and told me about it… but ffs, idols are treated like crap sometimes)

[@zacharikurbah6358]

Looking back on the year she was added to the group and also the group hit with the bullying scandal, that really messed up her mentality, and also at the same time, MBK is to be blamed for adding new members when the already 6 lineup were doing well, they can’t even protect them from the scandal, until the staffs and managers who were working with T-ara had to come out and release evidence about the bullying scandal clearing T-ara’s name although the damaged was done to the group was so bad.

[@zacharikurbah6358]

⁠​⁠@@jackietang3789Yeah, I suddenly remembered it as well, it can be traced back to MBK a decade ago.

[@chuuu4610]

At this point I just feel bad for the poor children. I hope they find a place that is safe, that puts their best interests first. I also feel bad for the actual T-ara members. With her. As messy and problematic as she is, I hope she gets help and some time to breathe offline.

[@d_ldo]

Just when you thought that T-ARA couldn't get worse ...

[@brandoniswhoiam]

Just when we thought that we were DONE post-bullying “scandal.”

[@jackietang3789]

Right? Over a decade later, one of their ex members resurfaces with this news

[@sulheeslay]

to be fair ahreum was barely a part of t-ara and the four remaining members are still doing well

[@Maletearsasoil]

The bullying was proved to be false , move on 😅 life is a not shitty kdrama

[@heartcatchprecure]

@@Maletearsasoil so life is s good kdrama?

[@GuranPurin]

I've learned to always be skeptical of people who seem to have these never-ending tragic backstories of bad health and bad life circumstances that make people want to unconditionally support them. I have very little sympathy for those who especially use it to guilt trip their audiences as a perpetual victim to gain favor and money by always threatening to take themselves out. But framing your ex-husband as a child abuser and using your kid to be the one to say it when it was actually her who was responsible? That's more reprehensible than fraud. That's just evil.

[@jackietang3789]

Same that’s why in these type of scandals I never side with anyone because both sides can each tell a different side of the story that won’t add up fully, best to stay neutral

[@xrrgr]

well tbh, for people with a tragic backstory it’s not uncommon for their lives to be continuously tragic because of the way trauma affects you at such a young age, but ur right what she did was awful

[@GuranPurin]

@@xrrgr Yeah, but my problem is when it doesn't seem like you're trying to get out of that and you just want to keep being a victim and taking advantage of people

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

in her case, her "fans" screwed her over, so what she did is actually justice

[@GuranPurin]

@@Dave_of_Mordor Scamming innocents because you feel you were wronged in the past is not justice LMAO

[@amanduuuh_7117]

Honestly, I noticed she was a little shady on the Unit in her comments. Didn't know about what happened to T-ARA but wow...makes perfect sense. Imagine your introduction to the industry be basically a prison created by a fellow member, the media and the public. She had to grow tough skin. Its sad to see what one shitty person can do to your mental health. Stay away from toxic people friends!

[@irondragonmaiden]

Honestly, I think that she took one good look at how Hwayoung and her equally monstrous sister ruined her life and that of her teammates' without losing a wink of sleep, become popular off of playing the victim, and even when the truth was outed was STILL popular and remained unpunished for all the lives she ruined. Basically, I think Ahreum got the message that the perpetrator will not be punished no matter what, especially if they play the victim for long enough that their act is bought for years. So she essentially emulated the monster that ruined her life. MORAL OF THE STORY: NEVER add new members to an already well-oiled group! And to think that T-ARA would still be a successful group had the unnecessary loads not been added

[@vixxexo6855]

The company should have told the whole truth, but the company remained silent and let T-ara get all the hate. If they just confirmed what really happened, T-ara would have still been huge.

[@squid3946]

Yikes. I hope that her children are ultimately placed with someone who will keep them safe and give them a good life. I wonder how/where she met the felon since he was unemployed and recently released from prison.

[@ploopy678]

We will cover this next week!

[@bdh711]

Club

[@blaqgirlssss]

Sounds just like AOA Mina. You feel bad for what these girls went through but at the same time they’re the most manipulative people

[@Pierrue]

No one should ever feel bad for her. She only has herself to blame for her downfall. Of course the early bullying she experienced wasn’t her fault but scamming fans by using suicide as a manipulation tactic and lying about abuse is all on her. And her messy cheating on her husband just makes my skin crawl. Such a despicable person.

[@zacharikurbah6358]

Her mental health is all messed up, especially after seeing disturbing posts on her ig before she deleted her account, I was like damn something’s wrong with her, I just hope her babies are safe

[@deannaw9128]

This doesn't justify her behavior, but Hwayoung and her believers ruined her life as well as her mind

[@marishkaspirit]

T-Ara breakup sounded EXACTLY like AOA breakup case - big kpop band cancelled and disbanded because of bullying scandal having centered 2 members especially, years after proving the victim was în fact the bully and roles were reversed, also exposed by dispatch via showing the messages exchange... I am starting to beleive there's a specific patern for these scandals, are they made on purpose? Very suspicios...

[@mxm7647]

The pattern is that some people tend to have the "always support the supposed victim " mentality and never bother being neutral and learning from past scandals. Some even go out of their way to call others who remind them of this haters and such.

[@markigirl2757]

Now I get why feminism is not liked in Korea…women taking advantage of their victimhood is a sick thing especially when SA still treated like nonsense in that country smh

[@saumyavig8964]

When was it proved that mina bullied jimin??

[@UnpopularMeow]

​@@mxm7647 Garam case. Soojin case. I'm sure I missed a lot of others. It's so sad that people are so quick to pass judgment.

[@usagitsukino8284]

@@saumyavig8964 Dispatch messages and I think certain employees came out and spoke against Mina too

[@justoverit]

Promoting an AI chat bot STEALING the identities of celebrities and public figures is gross. I know adsense is rough but please consider the impact it has to promote things like this.

[@lazyartgal]

Man, her story is so wild. If trouble keeps finding you, you might be the problem. It’s pretty low to bring your kids into it. Also, why would people give celebrities money? They live opulent lifestyles. I do hope the victims get their money back. Mental health is so important. I hope she gets the help she desperately needs. ~ Can’t wait for part two.

[@gwennvy]

The trouble keeps finding you part reads as victim blaming

[@lazyartgal]

@@gwennvy ~ I mean she is to blame for a lot of the problems she has. There’s no one else to blame. It’s okay to call people out on their crap and still hope for the best for them.

[@rainbowow5060]

But some people are just unfortunate - obviously not referring to Ahreum

[@scro910]

The biggest lesson here that T-ara’s company to this day fails to see: unnecessary member additions don’t do a group any favors…..hwayoung, this girl, and if she had debuted like she was suppose too Dani (justice for Dani) would have done nothing for T-ara talent/looks wise other then make the total age younger. All they brought was mess and controversy

[@sseuregi147]

i feel bad for all the people she scammed :(

[@thisisavivistanaccount7866]

i’m so shocked. i had seen a few articles about what was going on, but i had no clue what was truly going on. I hope the kids end up safe.

[@tellumyort]

Evangeline: We’re going to split this into 2 parts. Me seeing the almost 30 minute time stamp: 🍿

[@yeounji]

Tara has gone through too much 😢

[@glim3697]

No bc I was enjoying the video and then the ai sponsorship came in. Not only is ai incredibly horrible for the planet because of the amount of energy it requires, but you’re specifically promoting an ai service that encourages weird fan behavior?

[@Ippe0y0.C0mf0rt]

It's just ai bro it's not real 😂

[@Pinkstring]

i dont like it either but some youtubers have to take ads for the money

[@aniMeaganstream]

Not only encourages strange fan behavior, but also taking the artist's voices without permission. AI is theft to all artists, and it feels especially weird having a KpopTuber promoting it.

[@Ippe0y0.C0mf0rt]

@@aniMeaganstream wdym mean encourage strange behavior I haven't seen anyone have strange behavior also how is it a theft? That you're able to upload voices on their omg that's totally stealing 💀

[@aniMeaganstream]

@@Ippe0y0.C0mf0rt in the sense of voice actors and celebrities, they normally would be getting paid or have a contract with a company to have conversations with their fans. There’s the theft part. And the strange behavior part is that some fans already push the boundary between fan and idol, letting these unaware/delusional fans have close conversations (possibly even sexual conversations) with who they perceive as their idol blurs that line even further, and can lead to harassing behaviors.

[@Yummyyumiix]

This is all MBK’s fault for how they treated T-ara and just stayed quiet on the situation. They gave Areum no support at all in the group when she was only 18 years old, didn’t showcase her talent to the public, and just made her leave the group, when they knew Hwayoung’s sister sent her disturbing messages in her time in T-ara and if they could’ve leaked that online in 2013 they would’ve been a success. The situation was poorly handled, which caused her to become a mentally insane person for years because everyone would bully her for no reason. At this point she’s just becoming like Mina and it’s sad. What a crazy person she is… first she accuses her ex husband of abusing her kids, then she breaks up and gets together with a criminal and proceeds to scam people online cause they know she’s from “T-ara”, and then gets pregnant AGAIN and now it’s proven she didn’t like her kids and she’s the one who abused them. Hyoyoung actually apologized and didn’t act this crazy as this. Areum is the real bully here second is Hwayoung. Get help before it’s too late.

[@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752]

Frankly... I am starting to think it's a pattern that there is a tendency for victims of abuse to replicate and sometimes be worse than their abusers just to feel a sense of empowerment and control. It's not exactly a consistent trend but there is a chance/ tendency. Some victims choose the highway but there are others like Areum who go the opposite...

[@OneProudBBC]

Kwon Mina looks like Mother Theresa compared to Areum...

[@forthewin4063]

You always cover every topic so well!

[@iniyama]

the fact that The Unit was my favourite show and I dont even remember Ahreum being there 💀

[@143szns]

same 😭

[@catherinethecatlike]

T-ARA has really been through a lot. So many negative issues and scandals one after another, but I didn’t know things were STILL currently going on. Also, I loved TheUnit. So many talented idols from disbanded or small groups that were struggling to get attention

[@jackietang3789]

Shame that The Unit failed in its objective but at least it kept its promise to debut both a boy and girl group which is something that can’t be said for another show similar to it, I’m looking at you Mess Nine…

[@aa1yannn]

Ploopy678 is indeed a T-ARA fan. ❤

[@miyukirots]

indeed an obsesive and liar one😅

[@brandoniswhoiam]

STAN.

[@rmcrave651]

@@miyukirots tell me how its a lie

[@rapthor666]

Great editing and storytelling, smoothest sponsor introduction I've seen in a while (at least on par with akidearest), that cliffhanger? Dang, you're getting better every time

[@sup_jules]

i really enjoy your content but please do not promote ai bots or apps with ai generated content and images. its unethical and exploitative because of how ai-generated art is made. not to mention environmentally destructive. i'd recommend doing more research into this kind of stuff before promoting it.

[@EmseyDaisy]

man, how was the unit 7 years ago??? I'd love a whole video on the unit some day, there was so much talent in that show that just got wasted by the way UNB and uni-t were handled

[@CheShiny]

0:06 "You hit my car and run away. Are you crazy?" Help???

[@X1Daring2]

I think it's terrible she chosen a life of crime instead of being a idol, absolutely crazy

[@misskata8511]

So sad.... Ahreum once was the bullied one and now became the bully...

[@kpopluver0494]

Love your use of flashbacks! Your storytelling is so awesome 💯

[@Sparksnglitter]

I love your videos and always wait for you to post!

[@antisocialxperiment4706]

Oh I love these kinds of videos always have them in the background while I do random stuff ❤

[@toyland12]

I too was a fan of Ahreum, especially in T-ARA N4 and definitely felt sorry for her back in the day, but she and her boyfriend are a complete dumpster fire.

[@kpopluver0494]

That talkie segment was hilarious 😂😂😂

[@nekorei2023]

I feel so guilty now, because i was actually one of her supporters & believed that she was also ab*sed (i was abvsed), i feel so bad sm

[@namyufan]

me too..

[@OneProudBBC]

If you lent money to Areum, I hope you have already initiated action items to get back your money.

[@nekorei2023]

@@OneProudBBC no worries, i was too broke for that lol

[@Maletearsasoil]

Remember marriage is not a solution

[@Slm99]

Clearly, there is trauma and she has issues so I hope and pray that she seeks the professional help that she needs.

[@bullbae02]

about time you talk about this person, great video as always!

[@hyesterical]

you lost me when you started to promote harmful AI...

[@rainbowow5060]

KZbin uses AI algorithms too, so why are you on here

[@margauxlovelace8207]

@@rainbowow5060passive usage and promo are different

[@rainbowow5060]

I cant wait for part 2 😭

[@Sayoung24]

I missed these videos, it shows more sides to this industry.

[@riceyummy12]

First also i really love your videos bc instead going to lots of articles I can just use your videos for information and not be so bored. 😃

[@sseuregi147]

real first :)

[@user-LeGomboclavie]

The way you introduced your sponsor = Genius🧚‍♀✨ Good content video as always !! Love your work and your chanel 💖

[@WithinDeathLies]

Love all the research you put into these videos. Keep it up! :)

[@deannaw9128]

Those ppl that believed Hwayoung at face value are pathetic

[@markigirl2757]

Yeah scammers are getting even more crazy using su*c*de that’s insane they both need to get serious mental health but with South Korea handles it this will not happen and in fact people will unfortunately spiral further. I hope the children get safety and she has her new born adopted.

[@mariadou7928]

She may also have coached her child to say these things about his father. There are so so so many mothers who do these things.

[@windowbreezes]

This plays out like schoolyard gossip. except with people who never really experienced school life and now has their drama in public.

[@jandoel]

This would be wild for even an American celebrity. This is a level of messy I didn’t think was possible for a Kpop idol.

[@soomi]

7:50 - 8:03 Warning for heavy flashes

[@yellowstar3335]

this is carzy kpop is realing scary me now

[@miniehyuk9309]

good video but you lost me at encouraging and promoting ai, please do some research and do better. nothing about it is ethical or helpful

[@bdh711]

Literally same

[@blessmeachoomarkmadcity6773]

You could just simply ignore it.

[@sistamya9981]

@@blessmeachoomarkmadcity6773well ignoring it is enabling it

[@rainbowow5060]

​@@sistamya9981so are you enabling Arheum's actions because you didn't comment on it then? 😂

[@Thempai]

Subscribed and then unsubbed because of this :(

[@honodle7219]

It's really sad what happened. Every time i watch Roly Poly i am so taken by how amazing T-ara was. An iconic song and dance performance that will never fade away. And the 'zombie' version of Lovey Dovey was a true joy to watch.

[@tezvx]

First.♥︎ Also you're a very great youtuber.❤

[@ploopy678]

Thanks! ❤️ I really appreciate your kind words!

[@tezvx]

@@ploopy678 You are very welcome.♡ Also thanks a lot for all the hard work that you've put into this channel. I love watching your videos.💖

[@brigettelancome4063]

ready for part two!! loved this video!🤞🏾🤍

[@ayloshmono]

t-aracore is crazy man

[@FarrahGoez]

I just worry about the children involved. We don’t really know if her ex-husband was abusive and she was just coaching the kids to say those things or if it was actually true. To have a mentally unstable mother and an abusive father is a horrible situation. I wonder who the children are with?

[@ryanpooley]

Omg this drama had my jaw on the floor! I can NOT believe celebrities beg for money from fans 🤯 Does that happen a lot in other countries? In the US i feel like flex culture is so insane and a fan would immediately go on tiktok and expose them for clout! Lol

[@boomlove3454]

Damn Kwon Mina 2.0

[@jackietang3789]

Bro that scandal between her and Jimin was literally historic for the Kpop industry but for all the wrong reasons

[@markigirl2757]

Yeah :/ I hope Dani doesn’t start anything but I heard she moved on and lives a normal life now

[@julia.e.carpenter]

Areum literally is my bias when they became OT8. After she left, i turned to Boram and she even left years later. Areum what happen to you? :(

[@Krissy143]

Disappointing as a queen. Was my favorite thought ahreum was better than ppl like Hwayoung but no she’s worse

[@VolumePerfection]

How is she worse? She didn't threaten anyone.

[@rainbowow5060]

​@@VolumePerfection gurlll did u watch the video

[@markigirl2757]

Victims that don’t get justice do tend to become abusers later in life.

[@VolumePerfection]

@rainbowow5060 yes. She still didn't threaten anybody. What she did was horrible but hwayoung and her sister are JUST as messed up not worse.

[@ploopy678]

We just haven't covered the threats yet! Stay tuned for part 2 😲

[@aa-pj4vz]

damn hwayoung is responsible for so much chaos and suffering. that b hexed tons of people alone 😭😭😭

[@SKZ_ITZY_3-vm2mg]

This story is insane! I cant wait for part 2

[@emi7310]

I just have to say, your hair looks so good 🩷

[@new.starrz]

this woman is the red carpet..

[@komnithviseth9649]

T-ARA member just can’t get enough of a scandal leave them alone

[@ritrishamondal659]

Ploopy I've been wondering for a while what camera and mic do you use?

[@ploopy678]

I actually just use my phone as my camera! I tried buying a mic, but it seems incompatible with my phone, so I'm stuck with using my phone as my mic too 😅

[@AquaRunner533]

34 seconds? crazy anyhow, I'm not familiar with tara members. This be interesting to watch

[@Buward_maybe]

Never meet ur heroes.

[@OneProudBBC]

I'm at a loss for words about Ahreum now. I felt so sorry for her, but after watching Part 1 of your video, it makes me lose respect for Ahreum. I especially initially felt bad for Ahreum because of that Ryu girl. But I don't know what to think anymore. She is making Kwon Mina look like an average country girl.

[@minato808]

Kpop groups should never attempt the graduation and addition of members that Jpop groups have been able to do for decades. I know Jewelry and Afterschool have been able to do it relatively successfully but just make a new group.

[@sophiaisabelle01]

We appreciate your insights. Keep working hard.

[@Sidicas]

sad story 😢

[@flambergian]

Can’t wait for part 2!!

[@Akursedtime]

Ahreum is both a victim and a perpetrator. Both can coexist.

[@minhospaws55]

No matter how selfish it might sound but I couldn't ever support new members if they were added into my favourite groups because... what's the whole point of it?

[@jocklazer4]

Love these!

[@TheJacqueswong]

Great video! Thank you very much for your content.

[@forthewin4063]

She needs to get help

[@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752]

Yup...

[@shellyb3127]

This is so crazy 😧

[@Something125_]

You should cover The East Light’s abuse case if you haven’t already!

[@suyeesia7770]

Yes

[@JLALALALA]

Up until watching your video I’d never heard of this former idol’s (and I use this term generously in her case) personal life issues post T’Ara. I always have to warn myself when watching these types of videos not to be caught up in the hugely compressed nature of things which is just a given of the narrative. We can be fooled into believing that there are direct cause/effects when presented with a narrative timeline in a video but irl it is a lot less clear. Or, to put it another way, I always take these types of videos with a grain of salt. Maybe if we had done that back when the OG bullying scandal was first reported things would have turned out a lot differently for all of the members 😢

[@ploopy678]

You make a good point! It's hard for us to know exactly what got her to this point, and it's possible other things happened behind the scenes that contributed to this! Either way though, what she has been accused of doing is serious, and scamming fans/ lying about DV is never acceptable!

[@JLALALALA]

@@ploopy678 yeah. What she’s accused of is extremely serious and ought to be handled by the authorities. I’ll be waiting for your part 2 to see what happened next and purposely won’t go searching for information about it before then.

[@JLALALALA]

I’ve recently found your YT channel. I guess YT added you to my recommended list after I attended a Wheein concert last month (don’t know why they’d be related but the YT algorithm works in mysterious ways) 😊 I’ve watched a few. You seem to be clear, concise and do a lot of collating your source materials into your video narratives. I like also that you aren’t using weird AI generated images/video each time you talk about a scene but rather use source footage (I hope I’m remembering this correctly).

[@markigirl2757]

I’m more concerned for her children and her unborn one then herself I’m sorry it’s hard to feel bad for people who constantly use victimhood to get their way regardless of how she ended being.

[@GelelaBashaw]

Drop T-ARA has to be the most controversial girl group ever

[@mxm7647]

I don't remember any controversies around T-Ara other than the Hwayoung fiasco. What were the others?

[@markigirl2757]

It’s so sad it’s like that group was cursed. I hope the T-ara members are okay. I used to Stan them 10 years ago 😢

[@love4trollz]

Not really they are worse ones

[@Snogard45]

yikes not the ai character bot ad... I know you need to get that bag but ai is highly insanely unethical both to artists who could actually be paid to write and draw character narratives that aren't generated slop but also to the environment being actively destroyed by all the resources genAI takes up. all to talk to some generic nonsensical anime guy AI. not a good look, I've been watching you for a while but this might be it for me...

[@DeoxysDNA]

Maybe some people don't want a pre-determined written narrative. Maybe some people just want to play with a bot that thinks of something new to say depending on how you talk to it.

[@Snogard45]

@@DeoxysDNA for me, supporting the work of real artists and not killing the planet we live on is more important than having a bot randomly make up a response to me. usually if I want new and fun generated responses to a conversation I'm having, I talk to my friends. the bonus is those responses are actually "thought up" (which ai cannot do, because it is randomly recycling fed content from real people, not thinking) by a human I care about and enjoy getting closer to!

[@DeoxysDNA]

@@Snogard45 Oh ok, see ya.

[@rainbowow5060]

​@@Snogard45and what app is there that where real people talk to u in roleplay scenarios? Only fans? 💀

[@lsgoh2357]

​@@Snogard45that's you, but your preference for friends isn't what everyone wants. Just sayin

[@myghal]

Wow, that's a really interesting video.

[@lucstar49]

Man... i love t-ara... Sad that there are so many controversial persons in that group...

[@nessarolla]

The talki AI AD to talk to your favs is so real😂 But seriously I had never heard the full story of this and I have to say this is very well done. Thank you for covering these topics.

[@Shimo2130]

Imma go and bop to roly poly quick.

[@wobblycobbly3562]

"the biggest mess up of the k-pop court of opinion" Idk, the Garam bully deep fake was god damn **wild**. The truth came out quickly and people just didn't care

[@a.lil.ellie1565]

My Kpop big sister posted again ❤

[@lunaloynaz-lopez2318]

If you're a kpop fan can anyone please explain how and why she was asking her fans for 3000krw? That's £1 ($1.28). Am I misunderstanding something here?

[@Vanilla_Baker44]

I think they meant dollars. Who would lend that?