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@quinton800 Жыл бұрын
well the issue is toei never puts manga only stuff in games so you'd need to remove the moro and granola stuff
@jonathanjacobs7063 Жыл бұрын
I'm not worried just give me super for now i can wait on on dlc for this I'm expecting atleast 5 season
@hossammlaiha7889 Жыл бұрын
imagine DBT4 takes 10Y in dev and adds EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER IN THE ANIME.
@Joel_Aleman Жыл бұрын
I think you forgot that the moro arc took a small detour to Namek your first call could be good. Still think this roster is a bit thin but for the first game that would be impressive. Im sure they will have dlc so I'm imagining that moro arc and beyond may be DLC.
@Z3ON_Z3NITH Жыл бұрын
Full power Jiren where? You put the base only
@asher7973 Жыл бұрын
As long as Cell still randomly finds the androids minding their own business to transform himself, I'm good
@Rokujou1 Жыл бұрын
Great attention to detail
@Ativetah Жыл бұрын
Some of yall make me laugh so much with these random ass comments I didn't even think about but now it's just so funny to remember xD
@dark_nightwing_xl2797 Жыл бұрын
They will add this lmao
@dark_nightwing_xl2797 Жыл бұрын
@@Ativetah exactly
@My_Master_Waves Жыл бұрын
The way dimps did it was fine by me.
@VidaAnimada Жыл бұрын
Actually, Goku Blue on Namek might be BECAUSE of Moro Arc
@avdylosmanollaj9979 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. I guess Globku hasn't read the manga!
@vinsmokesgerma Жыл бұрын
smart
@Jaxv3r Жыл бұрын
@@avdylosmanollaj9979 he might have forgot it, since I also forget they went to Namek in the Moro arc
@baddworld Жыл бұрын
Yup ! We getting the anime this year I believe it
@Neuvillete4.6 Жыл бұрын
Nah I think that's against policy
@820monster Жыл бұрын
I'd argue the reason why Tenkaichi was so popular is largely due to character quantity. I think they'd cut a lot of other content before they'd touch the roster.
@Astrothunder_ Жыл бұрын
bingo. Especially now where we have FighterZ for unique movesets, Xenoverse for story and roleplay, Tenkaichi is gonna be the huge rosters and (hopefully) huge sets of maps. I mean xenoverse is kinda that too when you include all the characters from it's DLCs but hopefully tenkaichi 4 will be that right out of the box no $10 dlcs needed.
@ShebbaYoung Жыл бұрын
tenkaichi is also popular because of the awesome combat. like the techniques you can do are amazing and combos feel so nice.
@N.i.E.M.O Жыл бұрын
Trust me - they're going to cut the roster. They already did it with Raging Blast, and that game still reused the same animations from the Tenkaichi games. Even RB2 didn't have as many characters as T2 (let alone T3). I'm doubtful they'll be reusing the same old animations for 'T4', as it's been well over a decade since the last time they were used *and* it's a completely different development studio which probably doesn't have access to all those old assets anyway. This means that the game is being made completely from scratch, so I'd expect a really small roster, made up of mainly DBS content. Maybe we'll get a very small selection of DBZ-only content, such as Cell (Perfect form only) and Kid Buu, but it's unlikely we'll even see characters such as Raditz, Nappa, Recoome, Captain Ginyu, Dr. Gero, Android 16, Dabura or Super Buu, and we can definitely say goodbye to characters like Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, Guldo, Burter, Jeice, all of Frieza's pre-Final Form forms, King Cold, Android 19, Babidi, Evil Buu, and all movie characters (other than probably Broly and maybe Cooler). Come to think of it, I'd expect the roster to only be slightly bigger than FighterZ, whilst swapping out a few characters for more random DBS garbage.
@dblenj0yer Жыл бұрын
its less likely for them to cut the roster and more likely for them to just not have time to make a very large one
@N.i.E.M.O Жыл бұрын
@@dblenj0yer This new game will 100% not have a roster as big as T3. Or T2. Or even T1. I hope yall like DBS filler nonsense joke characters - because this will be the game for it.
@rafaelplaysone95746 ай бұрын
2023: "the launch roster can't be more then 80 characters bcs the company will make dlc for money" 2024:"you sure about that?" (164 characters in the launch roster)
@AlexanderMyers-zn7ge6 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking🤣
@riilz16 ай бұрын
yep this vid didnt age well LOL
@KingsNJenssons6 ай бұрын
To be fair that speculation based on maybe what the last image of the trailer is
@codysvlogdays5 ай бұрын
@@riilz1 very glad it didn't age well lol
@thetoondevil Жыл бұрын
I do feel Budakai Tenkaichi 3 made it a bit intimidating in terms of roster size. It not only spanned 3 generations of Dragonball, but you had characters from every individual saga. The game even utilizes freiza grunts!
@juliangonzalez4038 Жыл бұрын
But when I played xenoverse for the first time, I noticed that there’s literally no one in there
@UltraEgoMc Жыл бұрын
@@juliangonzalez4038Xenoverse characters sucked
@juliangonzalez4038 Жыл бұрын
@@UltraEgoMc the game sucks as a whole.
@UltraEgoMc Жыл бұрын
@@juliangonzalez4038 It really does, it makes me frustrated we haven’t had a true good 3d Dragon Ball game in over 10 years
@juliangonzalez4038 Жыл бұрын
@@UltraEgoMc I miss the budokai 3 and infinite world days. I just miss the simplicity but now it’s not even a fighting game it’s like an open world game lol
@JadaKaiser Жыл бұрын
I'm boutta be so excited to use "Full Power Energy Wave," the ultimate move of a truely needed and necessary character
@jonny4ya Жыл бұрын
Ah good ole Pui Pui 🐐
@nok4799 Жыл бұрын
Welp, fourth form cooler had full power energy wave💀
@Nierez Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest whooping ass with Frieza Soldier is hardcore. Everyone knows who's top dog after that.
@shahrukhvahidy9023 Жыл бұрын
Tekaichi's 'Zenkai Fist' 😂
@greatestever3501 Жыл бұрын
shut up
@Nuka-Lucas2 ай бұрын
With every trailer that passes, this ages worse and worse and worse.
@luhhhyuji2 ай бұрын
lol
@rezzy17882 ай бұрын
Not really so far it’s 164 not including the 20+ dlc so it close to 200
@luhhhyuji2 ай бұрын
@@rezzy1788 yeah really close to 200 + 1 for that "?" character
@LAG00N6 ай бұрын
He called us crazy... Who's the crazy one now?
@superbro6413 Жыл бұрын
I think we are slowly learning why it took Bamco 15 years to go back to this series lol I do not envy their position rn
@projectzfoundation3065 Жыл бұрын
Mhm hopefully they been workin on this previously
@noor_xd9473 Жыл бұрын
@@projectzfoundation3065 they are not it's an early game that's why we only got a teaser
@jantheking7028 Жыл бұрын
@@noor_xd9473 Well the fact that we haven't got a a fully developed and unique DB game since 2020 may indicate they have been working on this game for a while (DB breakers doesn't count, it reused Xenoverse 2 graphics and assets). Edit: Well I was right, and everyone who disagreed with me is wrong. According to the producer of the game, development began as early as 2018!
@noor_xd9473 Жыл бұрын
@@jantheking7028 they literally said it's on early development so yeah unfortunately no.
@Watermelon_Man Жыл бұрын
@@noor_xd9473 where did they say “early”? All we have is a teaser video and it just says the footage is in development.
@JonathanSmith-ul5nw Жыл бұрын
Honestly, that first little segment that you just did I’m all for it. I want all the characters in all the iterations.
@powerjolt7215 Жыл бұрын
Somewhat unrealistic, but I agree lol. Letting my kid brain take over and not caring about how much effort it actually is to make a game with this big a roster... I want everything! The whole shebang!! The what if stories also. Plus some heroes content (just give me the xeno Goku fit and I'm satisfied tbh)
@uncleian81186 ай бұрын
This aged poorly😂
@Inkaymani4 ай бұрын
really poorly 😔😭
@LeBearr2 ай бұрын
Bro said dbs anime was cmoming back in 2023 oh no 😭
@daviarcenio4901Ай бұрын
This video did not age well and I think that’s the best thing to happen Us.
@tboy355 Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine the crazy amount of DLC that's gonna be in the game
@gibbygibbstein7858 Жыл бұрын
I imagine Dbz and super will at minimum be free, maybe GT too. I expect Z movie and super movie characters to be Dlc though
@jantheking7028 Жыл бұрын
@@gibbygibbstein7858 I think the only Super movie that will be DLC is the DBS Superhero one. It makes no sense to make Broly a DLC character even though his movie will be half a decade old by the time the game comes out
@andresv.8880 Жыл бұрын
@@gibbygibbstein7858 then you didnt learn anything from the video. Learn to appreciate how much work goes in these games
@suematsu7254 Жыл бұрын
@@jantheking7028 you should watch the video first
@jantheking7028 Жыл бұрын
@@suematsu7254 I watched it, and I think the video is wrong about a lot. Bro thought that adult Goten and Trunks have a higher chance of getting into the game than Majin Buu
@dbztranks6601 Жыл бұрын
It really just depends on how long they've been developing the game before the announcement and how much more development till release
@Omnivoid22 Жыл бұрын
Thats EXACTLY what i was telling people at work. if this has been in dev for more than 3 years. I think its safe to say we gonna get a nice size roster at release.
@gravitybeetle9593 Жыл бұрын
He says it like most of the transformations dont have shared moves between each other
@PinkManGuy Жыл бұрын
@@gravitybeetle9593 DBS is literally "Goku this is the fifteenth time this week you've shown us super saiyan." "Yeah but this one is Red"
@DeftestAphid2 Жыл бұрын
I just compare it to TagTeam and how that had 70 characters for the psp. I'd say over 100, but not over 150.
@officerzack1108 Жыл бұрын
It might depend on when the rumors started of Budokai Tenkaichi 4 becoming a thing, I heard that being talked about last year and don't know if there was any mention of that in 2021. If it's been in development for a good long time then my assumption would be a late 2024 release next year, if not that then a early 2025 release.
@rollaluzay32796 ай бұрын
Watching this after seeing the new trailer when at the end they show the roster is 164 characters is kinda funny
@nonstoppkFred6 ай бұрын
Hilarious
@rollaluzay32796 ай бұрын
@@nonstoppkFred loder leder
@joeshearman2341 Жыл бұрын
Found it kinda odd that you don't mention when cutting from Ur roster that the manga characters would be the first to go, and aren't likely to get into the game in the first place. Moro, Gas, Granola are very unlikely, imo.
@electroshock1021 Жыл бұрын
wasn't the point he made that the manga characters WOULD have made it to anime by the point this game comes out, since dbs will come back this year?
@EmeralBookwise Жыл бұрын
@@electroshock1021: There's nothing to confirm that the anime would adapt those arcs of the manga. With the existence of the Superhero movie, it should be more likely for the anime to continue moving forward in the timeline and introducing brand new material of its own.
@beta5017 Жыл бұрын
@@EmeralBookwise ... what?
@Godz_Villuz Жыл бұрын
@@beta5017that's how dbs works, they have 3 different ways of telling the story with the manga, anime and movies. And this is for the merchandising. For sure Molo, Gas, Granolah and UE Vegeta will not be in the main roster, same for Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo (maybe with an SuperHero DLC). But still the people cannot accept this
@TheOneAndOnly2000K11 ай бұрын
@@beta5017 can you not read? What he said made perfect sense and was very comprehensive...
@frostbite4772 Жыл бұрын
I think that this really puts into perspective how much work it takes to make something like this. With starting everything from scratch to create characters that look better than they ever have before is going to be a ton of work so it will be shocking if we even get more characters than tenkaichi 1. Either way, I am really excited for tenkaichi 4, easily my most hype thing of the year
@Slacker4Life3 Жыл бұрын
they should have done this instead of releasing mid dbz games like xenoverse the past years. no one plays those games. they should just start the roster like Fighterz with Super characters
@Blue_Sparkz Жыл бұрын
i think they went to named in the moro saga
@Iava Жыл бұрын
How??? This guy is not a game dev, don’t let his childish impressions into your head. To create these character models is hard work but the devs have passion, not this guy don’t be fooled they can and will have every character in this game!
@damndude9826 Жыл бұрын
@@Iava The irony calling his reasonable take a "childish impression" and then giving your own childish impression. Passion doesn't create time. You seriously think just because the devs are passionate enough they can create 100+ high quality character models from scratch in a limited amount of time? Also, let me remind you that the devs are presumed to be Spike. Their last two games don't exactly scream passion and most of the original BT3 team have left the team.
@Iava Жыл бұрын
@@damndude9826 what are you talking of time limitations?? This could be a 2026 title for all we know, and I don’t know why you expect these guys to willingly put something rushed out? This game deserves a chance
@Virdice Жыл бұрын
Do remember how many of the characters of Tenkaichi 3 were copies of one another The saiyans were all mostly the same with slight visual changes, even having the same attacks and transformation into the oozaru Also as a lot of attacks aren't unique per se, being able to slap Kamehameha or a destructo disk on half of your roster makes it much easier to build
@aceclover758 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I say. No excuse to not have a roster include the DBZ versions
@starrk5627 Жыл бұрын
yeah I dont think people will find too much trouble if some non important characters have the 'blast volley' attack or the 'high speed rush' as their moveset lol
@Phantom-kc9ly Жыл бұрын
As far as legacy characters go, it needs to be characters people will actually play. So a Goku/Vegeta/Gohan that can turn super saiyan as well as his super forms and the main villains of each part. Relative nobodies like 17 or Burter need not apply.
@mifaro2255 Жыл бұрын
You say that but almost every special attack in BT3 has a different animation, even most of those who are copied have different timings or colors. Even the kamehameha has different versions. Even if some attacks were copied, you can't say that it was easy to make. Every rush has a different animation except some exceptions like ssj4 vegeta who has the same rush as cell arc super vegeta. And if you actually play the game seriously and look at the move list, you'll notice that every character isn't the same.
@tonymack2007 Жыл бұрын
That was problem on tenkaichi 2 not 3
@DyvblowАй бұрын
this aged so bad its actually good i love it
@tristantorruella99162 ай бұрын
Funny how wrong he is, 160+ characters and no one past t.o.p in base game
@jantheking7028Ай бұрын
There is character past ToP... Broly movie is based game
@GurrenPrime Жыл бұрын
No Vegeta Z? That’s probably the only head scratcher I have about your hypothetical roster. Otherwise, I definitely see your point about how this will need to be much smaller than the previous games, and understand your reasoning for the characters included and excluded.
@antg2183 Жыл бұрын
Z Vegeta had the most fights in Z as well. Having no Z Vegeta basically means……No Z story at all.
@Ryxerz Жыл бұрын
He forgor lol
@Going4Broke2528 Жыл бұрын
My only head-scratcher is why assume we're getting characters cut in the first place? The game's website specifies the series is known for it's massive roster, it's mostly why it became so popular in the first place.
@GurrenPrime Жыл бұрын
@@Going4Broke2528 80 characters is still a massive roster though. And unlike Storm Connections where they’ve confirmed they’re using the same old models, BT4 is obviously using brand new models, so any and every returning character needs to be remade from scratch. That takes a lot of time, money and man-power. Cutting things is the only way they can both make this game *and* make a reasonable profit off of it.
@Going4Broke2528 Жыл бұрын
@@GurrenPrime In terms of time, they've definitely been working on this for a long time already. It's not like they just started development on it and released a trailer, that's highly unrealistic. And in terms of budget and man-power, it's Bandai Namco, they can spare it realistically, since so many people are hyped about it, therefore it's reasonable to expect high sales numbers. I am tired of normalizing less-than-quality games on release because of dlc potential and unwillingness by developers to attribute the time and effort required to make good games. If the game is good, it will make them money. It's Dragon ball, for god's sake. If it was some small anime series with a niche audience, it'd be unrealistic to expect high numbers, but it's one of the 3 biggest anime/manga series of all time. It will sell enough to make well beyond what they invest.
@AmacioMartin Жыл бұрын
If you have Goku (Z) you need a Vegeta (Z), that goes without saying
@perreban Жыл бұрын
yep and I don't think there's going to be a Goku (S) without super saiyan, it's used a lot in Super
@ekwrestling Жыл бұрын
@@perreban that’s exactly what I was thinking too
@Ryxerz Жыл бұрын
Yes and kaioken should be a power up he can do in any form (except ui)
@Razzzielll Жыл бұрын
Majin Vegeta is a must so yes ofc
@Yahya4life14 ай бұрын
This aged terribly and I love it lmao. I knew I had to come back someday to drop this comment
@thegoldencrowbar64398 ай бұрын
Coming back after the new trailer made me realize this video is hella wrong and it put a smile on my face If Bergamo is in, anyone can make it 😭
@Tomas-mn8vv8 ай бұрын
Knew from the start that the roster would be stacked. Don't know what he was thinking
@curse56978 ай бұрын
@@Tomas-mn8vvit made sense at the time, but now we have more info and better context, this mfs have been cooking up this game for 5 YEARS, yup, the roster is gonna be much bigger than this and i'm glad
@valentino_cp69937 ай бұрын
Him cutting goten and and kid trunks is an immediate red flag the game wouldnt honestly feel the same if you just have a few og charachters and then have charachters like cell max manga charachters goku black etc
@jantheking70287 ай бұрын
The entire premise of this video is bad because he assumes that manga characters would be in the game (which they wont since leakers have revealed that DBS 2 has not even started production yet, they have been working on Daima and Superhero since 2020).
@Cell_BestMan5 ай бұрын
Kakunsa is in now 😂
@DaaGrizzlyBear Жыл бұрын
I think with the technology we have you’re underestimating the roster. I’d also love to see a dlc potential roster cause we know they’re gonna have one
@DaaGrizzlyBear Жыл бұрын
This isn’t a hate thread or any a opportunity to hate just a strong opinion. All respects to the creator and this video is great and captivating🔥
@Syrus_Priest Жыл бұрын
I think around 80 is right again it's not like they're ripping assets from tenkaichi 3 and all they have to do is copy and paste some stuff and make some unique content they're doing this all from scratch alongside characters theres also gonna be modes cutscenes maps all of that alongside the fact that they know they can get away with DLC means putting in 80-100 is the best we'll get think about dragonball fighters that launched with under 30 characters or xenoverse 1 which I believe had 50 -60 on launch which is the last time we had a more traditional dragonball arena fighter made from scratch (xeno 2 got to port a lot of xeno 1 assets)
@DaaGrizzlyBear Жыл бұрын
@@Syrus_Priest that’s sounds appropriate. I’m thinking of it from a business perspective (which we all know by now DB don’t really think like that) where more is better constantly try and push constant
@whip1720 Жыл бұрын
@@Syrus_Priest I just don’t think that make sense tbh 80 to 109 characters isn’t really enough I think it would be much easier to just copy and paste already made models of the characters because no way can an 80 character dbz game hit all the right marks
@ShadowBlade360x Жыл бұрын
Even if it is possible I can't imagine how much space this game would take for not just characters but the story from dragon ball all the way to super. The environments , music , moveset variants, plus the dlc will make this a big game
@MustafaBensaud Жыл бұрын
You should keep in mind that the devs can reuse a lot of the character models & movesets, for an example: when they make a base goku, Ssj, ssj2, ssj3 etc. they can use that to make multiple versions of goku ( like tenkaichi 3 had goku beginning, mid, and end) with little to no extra cost, and all those gokus will have similar moves like kamehamehas, spirit bombs etc, so they can easily inflate the roaster roster to 200-300 characters l if they do this with vegeta, Gohan, etc. that’s how tenkaichi 3 had that many characters (not saying it’s easy or that it’s a bad thing, but this they’ll get 200 characters with a 100 character models)
@Omnivoid22 Жыл бұрын
moves were generally th same. basic attack chains were unique tho. so like if you were using ssj goku and went to ssj3 , hed have 1 or 2 more attacks in his chain and his triangle moves would be diff too.
@claudiopalana Жыл бұрын
@@Omnivoid22 Yes but you can use simiralities to have a larger roaster. In example Dyspo and Burter can have a similar attack pattern, they go for full speed after all and nobody will critic them for doing this. Also in the Anime/Manga they recicle things. Just twist some stats, add different details and work done. Duplicating is not bad, until you don't make every character feel the same!
@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 Жыл бұрын
@@claudiopalana yep but then again they also do this with legends and be super lazy af cause thats just easy for them lol. but yea most of them going to have like full power energy wave or like high speed rush lol. and wonder if they add appule
@-KORAL_ZERO Жыл бұрын
I thought it was kinda obvious this would happen. Bandai is making the game and they already did this with dbfz.
@pasticle Жыл бұрын
if this is here to replace somehow xenoverse 3 then absolutely. if this game will be focused a little bit to maintain a competitive scene (as we could suppose since it was showed in a tournament) then probably not that much re-using, and definitely not 80 characters. more so around 50 if we are lucky. jump force had 40 at launch, and i doubt they'll keep the same route as that game, so im guessing it'll be hugely inspired in CC2 games
@reggitopia8 ай бұрын
This video (thankfully) aged like a fine bacteria encrusted milk 💀 - No Super anime - The game is already in late stage development - The roster (according to the Japanese website) is straight up the biggest character roster for a Dragon Ball game I knew this video would end up way off the mark back then but I’m just glad to see it live. SPARKING IS BACK!
@zerousdragous74728 ай бұрын
What do you mean by no super anime? (And to be clear I am genuinely asking idk what you mean)
@reggitopia8 ай бұрын
@@zerousdragous7472 The anime didn’t return in 2023 like he said it was “confirmed to”
@zerousdragous74728 ай бұрын
@@reggitopia ah I see thanks I never paid attention to the anime’s return since manga has better stuff and it seems to me the anime won’t be adapting those manga parts I perfer
@usernotfound45169 ай бұрын
This video won't age well
@diamonshade7484 Жыл бұрын
I think our main concern should be the mechanics, the attention of details, the modes and how they can bring all those stuff into this new era while respecting and add upgrades in this new error.
@starrk5627 Жыл бұрын
100% that's also what I think is the most important, it's good to have the huge roster but the gameplay, details to attention shows how much the developers cared about this game. I don't want them to JUST update the graphics, have an average size roster and fuck the gameplay up. I need this game to deliver and make people stop modding Tenkaichi 3.
@Nierez Жыл бұрын
I mean maybe. Will they go more anime or more competitive?
@nifty6970 Жыл бұрын
@@Nierez Budokai Tenkaichi was mainly fan service than it was competitive. Yes, competitive BT exists but it's in the same vein as competitive XenoVerse; not very well balanced.
@xvoidxhunter2129 Жыл бұрын
People are gonna harp on the DEVs for the roster. But we have to remind each other that BT3 was more than a huge roster. It had alot of fun and replayable features that have since been deleted from Modern Gaming entirely, and i think we should make sure they give us what we deserve content wise instead of drip feeding up Character DLC packs over the course of several years.
@a.liguria2698 Жыл бұрын
They are the ones who decided to make a new Tenkaichi... so THEY have decided to follow a certain standart. So THEY should be the ones to be blamed should the roster suck, NOT the fans. If making Tenkaichi 4 is an impossible task, then they should have NEVER started it.
@ryanstarr2389 Жыл бұрын
That’s why the prob won’t call it 4. So if you they look at it as 4 then that’s just tough. Shit I held tournaments in my basement for BT3 but even I know it doesn’t matter how we feel, it doesn’t mean it’s reasonable.
@a.liguria2698 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanstarr2389 The stigma will still be there no matter what. Because even calling it anything but Tenkaichi 4, won't shield the game from a rightful sheetstorm if it somehow has less characters than Tenkaichi 1 itself. If they can't be bothered to preserve the charme of the saga, and what made it so well received, then they shouldn't have tampered with it to begin with.
@LeBearr2 ай бұрын
2023: DBS is confirmed to come back in 2023 2024: yeah about that
@swifty78216 ай бұрын
well well well now we get 160+ roster
@lihuenbaez6154 Жыл бұрын
Not even mentioning Vegeta Z is INSANE
@Nierez Жыл бұрын
Super vegeta is a classic he has to be in there. Maybe just straight up make it his SSJ2 form
@shivanshpandey8457 Жыл бұрын
Yes no way they make a game without majin vegeta
@kwasiparker6393 Жыл бұрын
This is why I think they’ll cover Z all the way up to super with gt and OG Dragon Ball being dlcs alongside the movies
@EmeralBookwise Жыл бұрын
Is there even any reason to have separate Z versions of Goku and Vegeta? Shouldn't they just be alt costumes with fewer transformations?
@expomkr75068 ай бұрын
no@@EmeralBookwise
@GUITARISTxxxx Жыл бұрын
MINOR MORO ARC SPOILERS!!!!!!!! Quick note: they actually do go to Namek in the Moro Saga. Vegeta actually has a neat little arc there where he talks about the atrocities he committed there back during the Frieza saga.
@NekMinuteG Жыл бұрын
No spoilers bro that’s his whole point
@odd-eyes6363 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Vegeta killed a whole lot of children for no reason whatsoever. People forget how evil he actually was.
@@odd-eyes6363 Not no reason Just a very selfish amoral reason
@Thatguyyoudontknow594 Жыл бұрын
I dont feel like they going to use manga
@MetalFreezer3000 Жыл бұрын
I have to say that there are stuff that many people don't take into account with this Roster Prediction you made, first of all, I doubt they'll separate the Characters by Eras like Tenkaichi 3 did (Like Early, Mid and End and in the case of this roster, Goku and Frieza (DBS)) this was done back in the day because they nedded the Gokus with Different Moveset depending of the Era, the way Raging Blast solved this was by making the Moveset Customizable and the Characters aren't stuck to just 2 Super Attacks. Cases like Vegeta (Scouter) and Trunks (Armor) which stayed on the Raging Blast transition are due to Characterization (and Moveset) and Fighting Style (Scouter is still Evil while Trunks Armor doesn't have the Sword) Another thing is that unlike Budokai and XVs, Kaioken isn't treated as an Transformation (in Tenkaichi's Context, a different Character), but is rather an Skill that boosts your stats (and obviously makes you red) Also, while I get that the main selling point would be the DBSuper content, I highly doubt they'll severly compromise the Z roster because of it, The Ginyu Force are staples of Dragon Ball and most of hasn't missed an single one Dragon Ball game (Well, at least Ginyu hasn't) and GT and Movie content has to at least be present in some way (Minimum Goku, Vegeta and Gogeta SS4 and Omega Shenron for GT and Bardock and Broly for Movies) and whatever or not they'll put manga content is if the Anime has been 100% Confirmed to Return (Which hasn't) and even then, the only DBSuper stuff that XV2 had on Release was just Hit (and Goku Black and Trunks (DBS) as preorder bonus, and that was when the Goku Black Saga just barely started)
@JadaKaiser Жыл бұрын
You make some great points, can't wait for this game to come out with 500 characters and one of them to be SSJ3 Broly or whatever
@nonstoppkFred6 ай бұрын
Or ssj3 broly
@carloscristero Жыл бұрын
I always thought the extra forms where super easy for game makers due to many just being hair and color changes. Vegito/Vegetto and Gogeta has the same face, and so on. But cloning the same model over and over start to take up a lot of space after a while.
@chance4827 Жыл бұрын
I don't think making the characters in and of itself isn't super difficult considering how similar all the move sets were, I definitely think it's more of a storage issue
@mnzl6972 Жыл бұрын
They did this on the PS2, how could it take up that much more space? You telling me a decade and a half of technological advancements and making more character models would be hard? They'll get lazy and under deliver because they are greedy. Just you wait for the Lackluster roster and another quick cash grab from people's nostalgia
@NapOfNaps Жыл бұрын
@@chance4827 let's just hope that they skip last gen consoles so we don't have to suffer from last gen limitations
@shipool Жыл бұрын
Depending on how they handle it, cloning the model isn't necessary. You can recycle the base model and just swap the hair in-engine.
@blackdragonstory1122 Жыл бұрын
Games are nowadays like 50 to 100gb and if I can get all the chars from db to db super including movies I am happy to use that space on my ps5. Sadly I think they will go with dlc route since they are in it for money and know full well people will play this game whenever it has 20,50 or 100 chars. Man,capitalism sucks ass.
@dirtcheapiphones6618 Жыл бұрын
Gonna be very interesting seeing how they update the battle mechanics considering the game will naturally have a strong online focus. I've seen people wish for the return of unbalanced characters like the old games, but then the online will just be a sea of the strongest characters like the fusions and UI/Ego.
@dougtheghoul2845 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Budokai Tenkaichi games are loved thanks to it being unbalanced.
@tacticalpeanuttt Жыл бұрын
There will probably be a setting for level equalization like in Xenoverse
@Omnivoid22 Жыл бұрын
y eah but its gonna be skill based for sure. I mean think about it. Only real thing is remmber how if use youd kid gohan vs someone way more powerful than him. That person wouldnt flinch . Only flinching when the lesser char was at max power. That mechanic was not bad. broly was a pain tho. OR like base teen gohan. wouldnt make broly flinch until he went ss2. Even ss1 broly wouldnt flinch.
@ironmaster6496 Жыл бұрын
That's part of the charm like it was really fun to see how useless characters like Hercule and Trunks were against a giant freaking monkey, not that it was impossible to beat them though, it just meant that you'll have to use am actual strategy
@eragonjogando99504 ай бұрын
its funny watching this after the new trailers, it makes it more fun
@TheBonkleFox7 ай бұрын
Look man, all I'm saying is as long as we still have Goku (Mid), the game will be fire.
@jantheking70286 ай бұрын
He's in!
@roam_y Жыл бұрын
The roster size is something that I've calmed down about since the announcement. Thinking about it more, given the support that other recent DB games have gotten, we could be seeing Budokai Tenkaichi 4 get years of DLC after release. So even if we get a roster that is comparable or smaller than OG BT, by the time they wrap up shelf life, we could be looking at a roster even bigger than BT3.
@EternalStorm796 Жыл бұрын
I'd be fine if it captures the key moments of Z before heading into Super, mainly because I just want Kid Buu more than anything...
@Chronos42 Жыл бұрын
Yeah we just have to pay 300 bucks for all of thos xD
@yummynubs3646 Жыл бұрын
@@Chronos42 only 300? that's rookie numbers gotta get that higher
@crowfather0249 Жыл бұрын
Who tf wants to pay money for characters who were already in the previous game. Imagine thinking that that's a positive.
@RedFox_505 Жыл бұрын
@@crowfather0249they would not be bruh if you got dbs sh dlc it would be all new
@sloesty Жыл бұрын
I mean the appeal is to have many characters. Honestly, they should do it similarly in that characters share combo strings and animations
@Rujewitblood Жыл бұрын
people always hated on this, but I'd rather have every single character with a lot of reused move sets, than just 30 characters with all unique animations, the other games always missed that one character you wanted to use
@nok4799 Жыл бұрын
It worked for bt3, and I'd definitely want to play as the character "nobody" uses like general blue, pui pui and cui
@diegoantoniofrias9309 Жыл бұрын
Xenoverse does the same soooo
@excaliburdelta35129 ай бұрын
"We've never gone to namek in Dragon Ball Super" Moro: ...
@klang20056 ай бұрын
Well.... this video aged horribly It was recently confirmed that the roster will have 164 characters xD
@JuLiAn31692 Жыл бұрын
I believe the game will start with a 50-60 character roster. And it will end with a roster around 150-175 characters. After years of DLC.
@powerjolt7215 Жыл бұрын
I hate DLC, but as long as the characters look great and play great I can accept it. That's just me tho
@diamonshade7484 Жыл бұрын
Not counting forms right
@_Hiro Жыл бұрын
@@diamonshade7484 175 without forms is astonishing You could probably even fit gine in there somehow
@abubakrzedan6857 Жыл бұрын
I believe after the game releases for 6-7 years it will be the same roster that you had in mind without removing any characters and with bardock and all the z movies character with a dragon ball story and characters
@jantheking70286 ай бұрын
This didn't age quite so well... At all lol.
@erwinguzman88786 ай бұрын
This video aged like milk 164 characters Bro had his roster doubled 😅
@thegoldencrowbar6439 Жыл бұрын
This is a really good video with a realistic outlook on the game release where most of the characters will probably be added over time using DLC but i'm still going to cope HARD that the base game has at least 200 characters
@66ixty9ine Жыл бұрын
If it has less than 150 characters, it isn't worth buying imo
@jonatasaraujo3586 Жыл бұрын
@@66ixty9ine so, be prepared to not buying it
@66ixty9ine Жыл бұрын
@@jonatasaraujo3586 will do
@joshuaachi3152 Жыл бұрын
@@66ixty9ine You want quantity over quality?
@benjamingesinski9170 Жыл бұрын
When your Twitter poll results showed that people were expecting a roster of over 200 characters, it showed me that the fans don't really know how game development works. The reason why the Tenkaichi 3 had such a large roster is because it used the same engine from the previous Tenkaichi games, meaning they were able to just port over the older characters and focus their development time making new characters. However, this is a brand new Tenkaichi game being made by scratch, meaning they have to make every character from the ground up. And making over 200 characters from scratch is practically impossible. So I think this is a pretty fair roster you made. A shame you had to cut like all of the movie characters, but I guess there is always DLC.
@stormbringer7773 Жыл бұрын
They could make 200 characters from scratch. It would just take longer is all and I'd rather have a delayed game that's eventually good at release than a game that's rushed out and trash at release.
@georgemitchell7273 Жыл бұрын
We also don't know how long they been working on the game. So it could still be a good amount.
@emptyjumplow Жыл бұрын
@Carlos Gabriel good for you
@jeff999 Жыл бұрын
@Carlos Gabriel who cares
@vinsmokesgerma Жыл бұрын
@Carlos Gabriel bro then just play tenkaichi 3 if you want a lot of z characters. You sound really dumb.
@kagesujin4385 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, I do believe that they know that most of their popularity is from their huge rosters, so I'm sure they're gonna work their asses off, and honestly, I don't mind waiting. And to be fair, XV2 Has 90 CHARACTERS counting dlc but without counting costume/version changes, so yea, I have faith.
@Going4Broke252811 ай бұрын
He's thinking like this is a fighting game and not an arena fighter. Those are two WILDLY different things.
@kenzo509611 ай бұрын
I get your point but XV2 you got the same attacks for your transformation , Tenkaichi is a whole different character when you transform
@Going4Broke252810 ай бұрын
@@kenzo5096 Most characters in XV2 don't transform, actually. And a majority of the in-game Awokens belong exclusively to CACs, a majority of which completely change your moveset.
@coolwaterbirds8 ай бұрын
''counting dlc'' sad truth.. sad harsh reality nowadays
@kagesujin43858 ай бұрын
@@coolwaterbirds It's still a lot of characters even without dlc 💀
@americancheese8638 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they’re gonna have the Moro and Granolah Arc in the game. I would take it they probably put Goku on Namek just as a placeholder map, but if you’re saying that the Super Hero movie is too soon and may become a DLC, I highly doubt we’ll get the Moro and Granolah Arc who haven’t even aired yet. Those actually seem more likely to be dlc
@paubermell1611 Жыл бұрын
the thing is... creating Yamcha for example is harder than creating SSJ Goku or transformations for other characters excluding ozarun and big forms that change the character modle a lot so i think we could get aroun 100 110 characters and 40 or 50 in DLC packs
@zomebody5529 Жыл бұрын
Right
@yummynubs3646 Жыл бұрын
judging from other db games base rosters I'd say 70 maybe 80 if were lucky and then they go ham on the dlc for the next ten years just like xenoverse
@Phantom-kc9ly Жыл бұрын
For real, SSJ1 gets IT Kamehameha. The rest of his forms are just redskins lol.
@FoxyGrandpa1998 Жыл бұрын
Kaioken would not take up a character slot, it was always a skill buff in the Tenkaichi games.
@Real_Genji Жыл бұрын
I really really really hope they spend/spending a LOT of time on making it so everyone can be included
@yan_dj6 ай бұрын
Can't believe the Dragon Ball Super anime returned in 2023 🤯
@PaksGaming Жыл бұрын
I mean it depends on when they started working on all the characters. We got the trailer out of the blue and dont know when development began. They might have been working on this for a way longer time than we think so im kinda optimistic in that regard. Cuz a budokai tenkaichi isnt complete without almost all characters from every db franchise
@PaksGaming8 ай бұрын
Yup they've been developing this for 5 years already lol
@jordanwilliams2701 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but if they don't live up to a decent expectation for the characters in this game won't they get their azzez completely whooped from that dlc version of tenkaichi 3 going around with all the super content?
@Chronocrits6 ай бұрын
I'm a simple Dragon Ball fan. If the game slaps, I will buy all the characters. They can have 9 season passes over 10 years, and if the game remains good I'll have them all. The game can end up being 500 characters strong and a total of £200 of my hard-earned money, and it will in no way dissuade me. What is critical, is that the game is good. And it looks really good.
@lilcory20006 ай бұрын
same bro
@jlau92682 ай бұрын
I counted the slots for the main roster and it's 163! Which of course includes transformations! 1st/Suppressed Form Frieza was in DBS too!
@thatdorkinthecorner8617 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I can't wait for the game, the roaster would be insane also Champa and Vados weren't mentioned yet maybe they'll be with the universe 6 pack
@WalloIndacut Жыл бұрын
The roaster?
@T.Y.th3Poet Жыл бұрын
Or kaba
@crimsonomega8310 Жыл бұрын
@@T.Y.th3Poet Cabba was mentioned
@Malcommind Жыл бұрын
@@WalloIndacutlol
@wyattbhoffman11 ай бұрын
Why would any of the angles be characters if there’s little reference for what they can do
@KirusLab Жыл бұрын
The way you depicted “business” moves from the company visually perfect is crazy
@vemaisey6 ай бұрын
This aged like milk
@itsrenaldoedwards69665 ай бұрын
Indeed
@user-or1yd7rg7l8 ай бұрын
Did your vision of the roster change now that we know that Bergamo is in the game? 🤣
@leonxdz Жыл бұрын
Dont they go to new namek in the moro arc? Also You forget that a huge majority of tenkaichi characters were basically just skins. Like extreemely minor differences between them. I would be shocked if they made literally all of the charcters unique
@s3studios597 Жыл бұрын
Yes. They did. And yes, they were. Pretty much everyone in Tenkaichi played exactly the same.
@projectzfoundation3065 Жыл бұрын
Which why i hope they have a minimal roster with dlc so it great for everyone in the end
@Gfromda23 Жыл бұрын
@@s3studios597 lol they really didn’t play exactly the same a lot of characters had differences even tho some did not all like I had fun anyways if they were the same and that’s what matters
@yummynubs3646 Жыл бұрын
@@Gfromda23 most of them were reskins with the same basic moves of 'full power energy volley' or 'high speed rush' only the real important character had major differences and even then you could taste how similar they still felt
@Gfromda23 Жыл бұрын
@@yummynubs3646 I do admit some of them did but nah man playing the game again of course some characters have the same moves jus look at the show a lot of people got like super volley or kamehame ha but they do feel different in their play style like I do feel a difference when I transform from ssj1 and ssj3, now xenoverse 2 lol is a different story feel like everyone got them same ultimate attacks it’s crazy
@liquid47 Жыл бұрын
Also one thing that could make it easier one the dev team is that alot've models could be generally reused such as Goku's transformations same with attacks like Kamehameha, still not gonna be massive but just hopefully allows that bit extra in the roster.
8 ай бұрын
I think after the latest trailer they confirmed the game has been in devlopment for 5 years so a larger roster is not as unrealistic as you think
@dericdawson7512 Жыл бұрын
Raging blast was literally so underrated, it was 🔥🔥🔥
@Hawkcam1996 Жыл бұрын
Here’s some easy cuts for you: characters from the Moro and Granolah Arcs. Those are currently manga-only and the games tend to focus primarily on the anime.
@GrandeBigdor Жыл бұрын
He literally said before the cuts part that he is considering that the anime will cover this arcs before the game releases
@Hawkcam1996 Жыл бұрын
@@GrandeBigdor And? What’s your point? Just because he *thinks* the anime will cover those parts doesn’t mean that it will. It’s highly unlikely that the anime will cover those parts considering the anime return still hasn’t even been announced and that’s two whole arcs.
@GrandeBigdor Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkcam1996 its literally not my fault. Why you saying this as If was MY point, It is Globku's point lol
@Hawkcam1996 Жыл бұрын
@@GrandeBigdor He’s not the one that decided to reply to my comment in a condescending manner. That was you.
@GrandeBigdor Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkcam1996 not my fault if you didnt see the first part of the video And chill out dude, you look like u mad bro
@osamahoweitat6297 Жыл бұрын
here's the thing though, the reason raging blast had only 76 was because it wasnt bt4, it was a new series that was a spiritual successor to bt, if they dont want to raise expectations to this improving upon bt3 (such as the roster) then they shouldnt have announced it as bt4, they shouldve made another spiritual successor
@knarrow02226 ай бұрын
No oddense Globku, but I'm glaed that this video is complete and utter garbage since its confirmed that the roster is gonna be way bigger than Tenkaiichi 3. Which means anyone out side of some ectra characters can get in now
@shangotango Жыл бұрын
they have had years to prepare for the game so id say that most characters if not all either Z or Super (anime/movie) cast are already made. If they want to make this games story be absolutely crazy id figure they will keep all the super character u cut from Super. I think what they will also do is bring back costumes, so you'd assume that they would just make the Super Hero movie Goten and Trunks a classic skin replacing their outfits, rather then making all characters. GT is a bag of worms I'm gonna open in this comment so strap in, this will be long. If DB BT4 or from what I've heard from some places DB Super BT has really not been worked on even before the announcement then I agree that it will be coming out with your roster (maybe minus pride troopers, love em but i just don't think they would add them over like a Super Dragon Ball Heroes character DLC) IF they want this game to be the ultimate Budokai game then they should make this up to date with super, including movies and the show of course. if they were to make it the ultimate Budokai game they should add a lot of things that fans would want and would love to have and I know a lot of people will agree with there. They should add every character up to date with at least the anime maybe not the manga since to be honest, most Dragon Ball fans only watch the anime and play the games, I would hate to see them leave out characters who were honestly great additions and fresh changes to the Super story (Frost, Cabba, Cell Max ECT) Another thing they should add is a PC (or console) Workshop that's built in to the game. Lets so hypothetically they DO leave out some characters and their fan favorites, or some LOVES the idea Raditz and SSGSS, then a workshop or character customization would be the best option for that. That could work in a similar way to YOMI Hustle where if you play online, the workshop characters that 2 people share can be played, but if only one person has the character it cant be used. And of course another feature id love (and everyone else would love) is if they add back the What if scenarios but in a different way. What I would like to see it as personally is similar to the way Detroit Become Humans act selection works. When u click on a level you already beat what happens would be a thing that branches out as a sideways Y would show up. The route you took will have images showing what happens on the top of the sideways why, but the bottom (other line) would have blank boxes, if you do a certain condition or a certain thing happens you will be able to get an alternate ending. If you got the what if ending it wouldn't effect the next level (or saga depending on what level you do it on) I see it as, when u beat it a congrats screen pops up that says something like "You completed the level with a What If scenario, try getting the correct ending to progress further" I think it could be a fun idea to do. Another big thing i want to get into that I should have sooner was DLC. What could hypothetically be the DLC besides other arcs that come out as the Dragon Ball series goes on. Idea 1: A gods of destruction pack. Here me out, people who aren't as big into the Dragon Ball story only know Beerus and maybe know Cjampa. But what about the other ones? This pack could include all the other gods of destruction and maybe even their angels, but not as other characters, they could be costumes for Beerus and Whis. Idea 2: Lets say you eventually load into a battle enough times and the announcer talks and its getting boring and you wanna spice it up, an announcers DLC pack. Also 5 dollars it will replace the announcer with every character in the game, to change it you would go to, settings - audio - announcer audio - announcer voice, and from there you could change the announcer. Idea 3/4/ and forward: id like to see these ones but kind of the same, Super Dragon ball heros DLC story and characters, Dragon Ball Xenoverse DLC Story and characters and of course future arcs added in. What makes a game special is how fast it can bore you, and from past experience and Dragon Ball games, DLC can really spice some things up, im sorry tired and my hands hurt so bad, im gonna go pass out in bed now
@Clusterking476 ай бұрын
You just wrote a whole damn book brotha!
@christiandelgado1159 Жыл бұрын
I think you're low balling the amount of characters that'll be released from the base game. Variations of characters tend to be much much easier to program due to having similar models and animations. Just look at the xenoverse series with their variations of goku. I'm pretty optimistic and say that at a minimum it'll probably be released with 60-80 unique characters and probably around 110 characters/variations in total. And that's just base game without dlc.
@firstlast1166 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna see Uub, haven’t seen him since T3.
@silverwalker2934 Жыл бұрын
He's in Xenoverse....
@davity9000 Жыл бұрын
@@silverwalker2934 and he is important in the manga again
@RPGNoZero Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Tekken 3 had a character from Dragon Ball
@WesleyDaUrbanhog Жыл бұрын
They should definitely add Adult Goten in the game. I'm actually surprised out of some of the characters from GT they added, they never added him. And it would make more sense than characters like Appule who made it in the roster. APPULE!
@kimarous Жыл бұрын
I remember my first reaction to Tenkaichi 4's announcement being "Heck yeah! Get ready for Super Vegeta vs Vegeta (Super)!"
@Reivaz888 ай бұрын
" the drafon ball super anime is coming back in 2023" and people are STILL coping saying its 2024
@eljudas2571 Жыл бұрын
I think we are underestimating how far game development has gone
@havok5021 Жыл бұрын
Tbh its not harder than it was back then. Its just easier to replicate back then's content because of our new tech. But back than it was just as hard as now for them to do ps2 graphics and 150 characters as it is for us to do ps5 graphics and 150 characters. And bandai is a huge development company they had the time and the money to do this.
@mikyah498 ай бұрын
3:38 This did NOT age well at all
@kidotherebellion5750Ай бұрын
The most funny thing he tried to defend NxB storm collections and he stopped and starts supporting DBSZ cuz they did it right
@falloutboy691 Жыл бұрын
Guys there is 0% chance that BT4 gets characters from the Moro and Granolah arc IF they are NOT animated first. Think about it for a moment. If any game rushed in for yet another DLC pack for manga-exclusive content, it would be Xenoverse 2 and they have not. They have however launched Super Hero DLC.
@Drainz0r186 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree it is pretty much impossible to figure out what characters make the cut for the base game, which are saved for DLC, and which are not important enough I hope you revisit these roster predictions when the games release and see how close you were
@NIKEONXX9 ай бұрын
I think the reason this game even exist is thanks to the years of xv2 dlcs. They saw that they can work throught years of content so making a budokai tenkaichi and building it up year after year is possible and people would buy as shown.
@jantheking7028 Жыл бұрын
The problem with this video is that you included manga characters, who likely won't be in this game. When you remove the manga characters, you free up an extra 15 character slots.
@kwasiahenkora6583 Жыл бұрын
I also think we’re going to get a base roster of around 100 character or so. Then the rest will come later on as DLC (or seasons). I have a feeling they might leave out “lesser” characters such as Pilaf, Yaijarobi, Android #19 etc. Or include them later on. What do guys think? Edit: I actually meant Android #9 but typed #19 for some reason
@suematsu7254 Жыл бұрын
Beeing optimistic
@Gfromda23 Жыл бұрын
Android 19 should be in there it’s an essential character to the story
@Phantom-kc9ly Жыл бұрын
@@Gfromda23 no, it's really not. That's like saying Yamcha is essential because he got drained.
@kwasiahenkora6583 Жыл бұрын
@@Phantom-kc9ly lmao, good point. I actually meant to type Android #9 but typed #19 instead.
@igotchu4233 Жыл бұрын
@@Phantom-kc9ly nah they both are android 19 was important is the kickoff android n yamcha been in like every game
@finfen9730 Жыл бұрын
I'm personally fine with this, as long as it's quality is kept up and they work on bringing the system mechanics up-to-date with the 17 year gap. A budokai tenkaichi 5 a few years down the line with a similar 60+ character boost would be huge.
@ssjgotenks2009 Жыл бұрын
dont give the many iedas to ahff ass bt4 so the do 5
@finfen9730 Жыл бұрын
@@ssjgotenks2009 What? Slamming 180 characters in a fighting game and relying on that alone is a terrible choice for progressing any fighting game franchise. Competitive or not. They need to polish the system before committing to adding glorified skins to the game first. That's not half-assed and takes a lot of talent, planning and a fundamental understanding of what makes fighting games fun to play.
@Zamamasu5 ай бұрын
I saw a video a guy did on the Rigor manga. Apparently, from what he said, Rigor is Vegeta's brother which means Vegeta has Tarble AND Rigor as siblings. In that same manga, we got to see teen (or adults - I couldn't really tell) Goten and Trunks actually fuse in to teen/adult Gotenks. It was absolutely awesome seeing that!
@obinobi28029 ай бұрын
If its an impossible task, don't call it Tenkaichi 4. That comes with some clear expectations, don't use the name to generate nostalgia and expectations when you're gonna fail them.
@tixnofal0971 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t wait more than 15 years just to have this small roster, we already got Dragon Ball Z games that were reboot of Budokai Tenkaichi. If it’s just going to be a game with tons of DLC, it’s going to be one of the most disappointing game of all time
@MrXQAZPLMX Жыл бұрын
Dude this is such a well researched and thought out video and I appreciate that. I hyped as much as the next guy but we need to keep expectations in check
@tyreekjackson619 Жыл бұрын
They did this to themselves, if they didn’t want us to have crazy expectations for the roster they should have made a new raging blast. They knew where the bar was set after DBZTB3 and they chose to continue that series not the more updated one. But for a TB game they got a lot to live up to.
@Its_KayBee Жыл бұрын
Tbf... they gonna get money money though
@sarban165311 ай бұрын
You're being very optimistic that they would include all these forms. Just cause these forms do technically exist doesn't mean that the games would model them. Base forms for Gotenks and Gogeta are highly unlikely, even base Vegito is unlikely. I don't think they would include Moro until the anime comes out, but if it came out (unlikely before BT4), then it'd probably only include the version of Moro with 73 absorbed. Same story with Gas. He's unlikely to make the cut, but if he did, only his adult form that he did most of his fighting in would be included. Granola's also unlikely to make the cut. In their places, I think we'd get Orange Piccolo and Beast Gohan. Whis isn't really much of a fighter and hasn't used fighting moves really, just a little sparring. He's not a necessary character and will likely be excluded. Toppo is a more important character and should make the cut, along with his Destroyer transformation. I think only him and Jiren are making it from their universe. Roshi isn't as necessary, and his transformation even less so. His buff form def won't be included, his base form may. Regular Zamasu (not Goku Black) should be in the game. Also, you left out the Z forms of Goku and Vegeta. Would be a bit odd for them to not be there if they're gonna have a story involving Z villains.
@baldlegsanji5460 Жыл бұрын
Im just scared of them making half the characters dlc locked..
@MadDragonify Жыл бұрын
Fr, what happened to unlocking characters through gameplay
@kylegoyak Жыл бұрын
They will
@JLuisJoni Жыл бұрын
I feel it's entirely possible they could cut the repeats entirely by making it so you can customize movesets and transformations, not unlike the Budokai games and even more recent Dragon Ball games, starting from Raging Blast. It's 2023, I don't think we're at a point that they'd need to restrict the characters' movesets to a specific set of transformations, Supers and Ultimates. You could very easily have Z and Super Goku in one slot, just with interchangeable movesets. If there would be "repeats", I feel it'd be having both versions of Kid Goku, since they cover different events and fight pretty differently.
@Proninski Жыл бұрын
Best take on this tbh
@polohno446 Жыл бұрын
It’s clear you kinda have the mindset of someone playing a fighting game like say fighterz, hinokami chronicles which rely strictly on a smaller roster more so suited for competitive play but The whole Appeal of the budokai series was its large roster
@Most-Splendind-God5 ай бұрын
1:22 It's funny that people voted for ~200 characters and we know there will be 164 of them so looking back it's just makes me laugh everytime
@Cardholder767 Жыл бұрын
I think they’ll keep it simple initially. Focus on Super and the “core” Z cast of hero’s and villains, and do more “niche” picks like Super Buuhan or GT characters as DLC.
@King-nv5zo Жыл бұрын
are you serious?
@linoleon100 Жыл бұрын
Why the fuck is everyone cutting the game and having so low expectations
@MasterOfBasara Жыл бұрын
@@linoleon100 Probably because a lot of us have been down this road before and have their expectations set accordingly. I remember the transition from Budokai Tenkaichi to Raging Blast. This doesn't even apply to just DBZ games. In many fighting games, when a developer is making the transition to new platforms, working with a new engine, starting from scratch, cuts almost always happen. It's a lot of work. We also don't really know what their plan is with this new game. Is it going to be like past BT games where a lot of the characters played super similarly with minor differences? Or will they try to make the characters more unique? We don't know. Does that mean there won't be a lot of characters? Not necessarily. But I think most of the people in this camp agree that it's better to set your expectations low and be pleasantly surprised by the amount we get rather than have them placed too high get upset when the number is half of what you thought.
@Phantom-kc9ly Жыл бұрын
Why the fuck would any Buu form be discatded?
@crossrhd Жыл бұрын
@@Phantom-kc9ly You could say the same thing for any single character bro chill
@KDuff-2015 Жыл бұрын
I hope they bring every character back from BT3 but do the story mode cutscenes & Dragon-world where you fly around the map like Budokai 3 & BT2. This could be the greatest fight game ever if they do it right. Also RB2 characters
@astrotatz9247 Жыл бұрын
On god
@warp302 Жыл бұрын
Agree they should at least have what BT3 had roster wise maybe minus some of the dragon ball characters if they have to cut some. Becuse from my understanding this is the comprehensive game starting from the sayins showing up on earth all the way to super. I'm hopeing we get BT2 type story mode where you get to fly around the world.
@CyanPrince Жыл бұрын
I agree that we will likely see a good number of characters saved for DLC released periodically, but I don’t expect the starting roster to be THIS exclusive and I will be one of the people disappointed by that if it were the case. I get that if you look at Raging Blast as “another kind of Tenkaichi game” then sure, they’ve released a game with around only 70 characters even after BT3, but for them to intentionally and specifically go back to the “Budokai Tenkaichi” namesake, with the teaser even playing on the nostalgia of the old games, they need to understand what the expectations for that are and that a major part of the appeal of BT3 was the insane roster, so if the starting roster isn’t even half of what that game had, that’s just poorly handled in my mind.
@starrk5627 Жыл бұрын
I agree, can't use the Budokai Tenkaichi (Sparking) name, and deliver like this is the first game from the BT franchise. This is an actual sequel, they cannot miss.
@starrk5627 Жыл бұрын
Actually, my bad, this isn't even confirmed to be named Budokai Tenkaichi ( 4 ). But if it is, they have to get it done right.
@CyanPrince Жыл бұрын
@@starrk5627 even without it directly being called 4, it’s still carrying on the name and therefore a successor to the series, so I feel it should carry on that legacy too imo