The Dreaded Ducati Desmo Service

[@brent07]

The Ducati Drain-your-cash-mo Service.

[@JohnnyWooh]

haha, this is awesome. the music fits the timelapse perfectly. crazy how much they have to rip the bike apart to do the service, but i guess for them it's just what they do.

[@TofuProductionCinema]

Yeah it's pretty crazy but these guys really look like they took good care of working on the bike. Gorgeous one too at that.

[@AT2Productions]

@Jimmy Doran Most of it is the hourly rate charge for the shop, not much different from other manufacturers at the valve check service interval.

[@AT2Productions]

@Jimmy Doran YOU ... HEARD ... WRONG. I have an '05 Monster 620. The belts and valve check are every 7,500 miles or two years, whichever is first. On my bike it's not that invasive of a service check, the benefit of an air-cooled engine. On water-cooled it's more time consuming since you have to remove the radiator to get to the horizontal cylinder. The newer the Ducati, the longer that valve check has become. Some aren't even by years anymore, it's purely mileage, 15,000 to 18,000 miles depending on the bike. So yeah, your information wasn't just wrong, but dead fucking wrong.

[@EPeltzer]

This is the single best video that convinced me I never want to actually own a Ducati. Seems quite ironic that they're working on a BMW right next to this. On the boxer twin to access the valves, you kneel down and unbolt the valve cover! To just access the valve covers on the Ducati you have to disassemble much of the bike and it takes about 2-3 hours. Though probably on an air cooled naked bike like a Monster or a gt1000 is probably much simpler? I hope.

[@citizenkace7228]

They are a superbike shop so they work on all high end bikes. Precision machines require precision maintenance. It comes with the territory.

[@rubo1964]

@@citizenkace7228 To add to this its every 15k valve check.Here in EST US where riding season is just 6months 15 k will last 4-5years....by then your interest tends to move to other bikes...why so many Ducs here have less then 20k miles and are about 15-20yr old.

[@Internet-Kittens]

Really well done, this must have taken a lot of effort to film.

[@dpinedoblog]

Great video. Very well done with the editing to tell the story. Lots of work...not super encouraging to make the purchase on a Ducati hahaha. But that exhaust note is to die for....

[@TofuProductionCinema]

I love timelapse videos of motoworks, great video!

[@snozzybosch7503]

What a great video. Really well done guys...!👍

[@8kilosunderyep877]

Salute to those guys no bullshit straight to business ☺

[@munter10]

Yeah, the bike shop I work in there's constant interruptions, having to stop and have a look at some drop by customer's bike, stop and do a safety check on another bike, stop and go have a crap, stop and help one of the other mechanics for 18 mins, etc etc etc.

[@Topendz]

The ironic thing here is they didn’t remove the exhaust and the sump to clean the sump filter even more work

[@stevenmoffat5473]

booked my 959 in for the 24k service. have done services at 6k and 18k between shop services to keep the engine in top shape. will be interesting to see if the shims need replacing.

[@lateapex9420]

Did they need replacing/adjusting Steven?

[@herobo123456]

@@lateapex9420 Steven is no longer with us

[@mohammedmuddasser4645]

@@herobo123456 What happened to Steven?

[@Tidusraven]

@@mohammedmuddasser4645 steve got bad news, the shims weren't in spec and it was out of the budget, legend has it hes still looking for change in between his couch

[@claytonolsen4914]

Dude. This video is awesome. And honestly it looks like us you have any kind of mechanical know-how and you know how to read and use a torque wrench, the demo service wouldn’t be impossible to do yourself. Looks like in getting a Panigale

[@artmchugh5644]

Clayton Olsen hey rider !!! Very true !! I had 2 Ducati 2 valve bikes , 900ss. And a ST2. Did the valves and they were pretty easy .got a 2011 multistrada 2 years ago and did the valves and belts last summer. Check out " Ducati tool rent " he has a complete kit , measuring tools , special tools, shim kit, ect . it really wasn't to bad !!!! 😎😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@AT2Productions]

Yeah, it's almost like Ducati shouldn't have the reputation of being a maintenance hog/garage queen anymore. I love my Monster and spend far more time riding it than working on it.

[@artmchugh5644]

Here is my multistrada !! I love this bike !!😎😎😎😎 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGPTaqCoZp5gh7M

[@minatormyth]

That's the main thing I hate about ducatis, the ducati tax (service). Probably why now modern V4 ducatis have got rid of the belts and desmo valves.

[@BigBadLoneWolf]

if you think checking valve clearances on a ducati is a pain in the are, try doing the valve clearances on a honda vfr800 vtec

[@rubo1964]

Had one and most VFR owners including me never even bother ride until it falls apart but never does its Honda!

[@Gixxer983]

Damn. I just change the oil and filter on my Kawasaki every year. .... 40 bucks total....

[@AT2Productions]

@Jimmy Doran Thank you for perpetuating a now myth with the post-2005/6 vintage engines. The original cause of this myth was the recommended service interval for the valve check on the mid-to-late 90's era engines, that's no longer the case. Current engines are ~9,000 miles (or annually) for oil changes and ~18,000 miles for the valve check, those used to be at 7,500 miles (depending on the engine). And yes, like all other bikes, new models end up with recall work. But the stigma of unreliable came from those desmo services and Ducati owners initially being affluent people who didn't mind paying the money for a shop to do every single bit of maintenance work. Don't buy into the hype, get some knowledge first.

[@Gixxer983]

@Z wicked weaponry What do you mean? I ride my bike , dont park it infront of a caffe with slippers on and show off.

[@tomrek5080]

@@AT2Productions so what years are we talking here honestly 🤔 I have a 08 848 coming up for service witch I'd like to move up any ways to a newer 1199 panigale. So educate me my fellow man. Much appreciated 🙏

[@AT2Productions]

@@tomrek5080 the valve clearances changed to the longer intervals with the introduction of the Panigale family of supersports. If you want the extreme long end of the service intervals, look at the last two generations of the Multistrada with the 1200/1260 DVT engines or the V4 if you like. I've been a Ducati fan for over 25yrs now, and an owner of a 2005 Monster. I'm looking at getting my hands on a '19-20 Multistrada 1260S, I don't like the idea of the 19" front wheel of the Multi-V4, but that's personal preference.

[@dillyp0p662]

Sleep with a man too huh?

[@coleyhicks8524]

Sweet can’t wait to get one

[@bradmottishaw467]

Love that Nicky Hayden number you have there!

[@jasonhale375]

Brilliant. Thanks.

[@ianboard544]

This actually doesn't look too terrible. Are there any hard to get, exotic tools involved?

[@MichaelBLevi]

Yeah this job is totally doable at home if you're someone who's prepared to work on your own bike. I've done this kind of work on every one of my motorcycles over the years and saved myself untold thousands of dollars. I would also like to know if there are any Ducati specific tools required for this bike. I'd love to buy a Panigale but because I do all of my own service, I'd need to have the tools and service manuals to accomplish the maintenance.

[@Wingboy1800]

That is why i have only ever owned 2 valvers.

[@ashikmirdha4684]

Malaysia work permit VISA Motor Mechanic Bangladesh

[@Zephyr.Lo-Renz]

How much for the 6k service? #1199S

[@wrxzboost]

didn't look like they did anything but check the valve clearance and drain fluids

[@munter10]

just a couple of items on the check list. They would have done more off camera.

[@afandou1966]

1800 is quite a lot of money. I hope that ducati will change the head design for their sportbikes and go to grandturismo design.

[@nicensleazy1892]

so funny, I look at the guys on the right, then a look at the guys on the left with the no1 t shirt LOL

[@crossplanev8]

Rattling noise from the engine. Does desmo service solve it?

[@citizenkace7228]

I suppose that depends on what the rattle is.

[@crossplanev8]

@@citizenkace7228 I've always owned triumphs in the past. They felt silky smooth. Everything about the ducati engine seems abnormal to me. Sounds very gruff and thrashy. The one sound that is particularly bothering me is some sort of metal clatter sound coming from the front of the engine. Not present at idle. Only at around 2k to 3k rpm I can notice it. After 4k rpm the engine is so noisy that I cannot hear it again. Is it normal for the 959?

[@ickess]

Is this same service needed for an 02 monster S I.e?

[@citizenkace7228]

Ickess they would have a similar service. Not exactly the same. The Panagalie would be more intense.

[@ickess]

Yeah started pulling it apart to do what I can. The bike cut off which turned out to be the fuel line had popped off the pump in the tank. Figured, while I’ve got the tank apart replace the filter. Then figured, while I’ve got the tank off to go ahead and replace vertical and horizontal belts. Oil change and plugs wasn’t that long ago. Will see how far down this rabbit hole I go on my own.

[@stevenmoffat5473]

awesome video BTW

[@citizenkace7228]

Thank you

[@Jawn23]

And the cost was…..?

[@_Bigworm392]

Was this a one day process also how much was the bill after?

[@citizenkace7228]

For mine it was one day, but typically they ask to keep your bike and do it over 2 days. I had all the guys working on it for the video so it went faster than normal. Typically, if you have no issues, it's around $1200

[@canadajointops]

@@citizenkace7228 $1200? Holy shit!! I just purchased a 1996 Supersport 900. Hope it's not nearly that high lol.

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

@@citizenkace7228 I just paid $1600+. That's a great price.

[@EPeltzer]

It would take one person 10 to 12 hrs to do this. Shop rates are well over $100 an hour these days. Plus part of course. $1800 seems reasonable.

[@citizenkace7228]

Typically it’s a few days. But they had several people working on it and blasted through it.

[@zappa916]

rinse and repeat after 24 months. 6 years later of which becomes uneconomical to take to a mechanic and you're forced to do it yourself.

[@seanflum8521]

Can anyone do a valve job without taking to the dealership? I know it cost lot of money. I say 1,500.00 to 2,000.00 including bull shit fees.

[@superrepair9681]

Need help for streetfighter

[@superrepair9681]

Hi

[@3star2nr]

So basically you have to rebuild the entire bike every 15,000 miles.... Nope!

[@AT2Productions]

Newer ones are even farther out, and the tear down is different from an Aprilla's (also a V4) how? Or any other sportbike for that matter? Or do you not take care of your ride(s) how you should?

[@thefuture8173]

You do the same for pretty much every other bike that needs valve adjustments, unless you don't want to keep your bike in tip top shape.

[@3star2nr]

@@thefuture8173 yes... But on a BMW or triumph or any jape bike you take off a valve cover... You don't tear the entire bike apart.

[@davidalonzi2918]

That’s where Motoguzzi got it right, the valve covers are pointing the right way for easy access, and you know how we like a bit of easy access 😜😛

[@YA-ee9zf]

where is the demo service ? all I see is a normal service but extra engine cleaning. why is it expensive if that's all?

[@citizenkace7228]

It's a service done at 15,000 miles.... As you can see in the video, they have to dig way into the bikes engine to check the valves. Make sure they are still running correctly and at the correct spacing. Also includes an oil change, air filter change. Complete bolt check, Coolant flush and change.... There is a long list of service they did that I didn't keep in the video. It's like a complete engine and bike rebuild. with 2-3 guys working on the bike it still took nearly 7 hours.

[@leeparker1029]

@@citizenkace7228 Looking at the desmo service on my 1199 panigale. Where is this garage based my friend 😁

[@citizenkace7228]

Lee Parker Motorsport Exotica in LOS Angeles.

[@kennyle7211]

@@citizenkace7228 do you guys use the torque wrench for Bolts and Nuts. ?

[@kurosujitsu75]

total cost for 15k miles?

[@citizenkace7228]

Kuro sujitsu around $1800 as long as the valves don’t need major adjustments.

[@pukavita]

@@citizenkace7228 $1800 prick to my dream bubble...

[@bbck15]

@@citizenkace7228 at what point do we start calling a service price like that theft? that is just my number one reason NOT to get a Ducati. (and i really want one bad)

[@3star2nr]

@@pukavita thats not a bad price since they basically rebuilt the entire motorcycle... People always want shit for free. They want 4 techs to rebuild a bike and only pay them 200.00 to split 4 ways... Plus somehow give the shop a cut...

[@ajames1585]

It can be looked at a few ways It’s a lot of money - simple as that Owners have to be prepared for not only the purchase price but also the maintenance schedule/ cost It’s a lot of work- simple as that The good thing about this vid is you can see the work being completed It’s a clean and well prepped workshop and the staff look like they know what they are doing - 3 techs at once takes planning/ training I love those Dukes but it is out of my financial comfort zone And last of all - $1800 is a shit load of money for something that requires completing every 15k miles

[@ALEXGSXR]

sick

[@petervandermeulen6641]

Bike dentist

[@jeanchamplot]

Where is Elon Musk when you really need him? He's probably laughing his head off waiting for THAT phone call from Ducati...

[@christianmarcum-yh4tu]

How much does this cost?

[@citizenkace7228]

This was $1800.00