The Drinker Fixes... Fat Thor

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@TheCriticalDrinker
@TheCriticalDrinker 4 жыл бұрын
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@hamletstragedy8988
@hamletstragedy8988 4 жыл бұрын
Please fix SW.
@gibbonsplays8706
@gibbonsplays8706 4 жыл бұрын
You changed New Asgard into Outer Heaven and Thor into Naked Snake. I could dig it.
@andrewshelton6185
@andrewshelton6185 4 жыл бұрын
Hey drinker are you gonna do a resident evil 3 remake retrospective
@s.e.wagger3888
@s.e.wagger3888 4 жыл бұрын
Can you review Twin Peaks (Season 3)
@Abaris84
@Abaris84 4 жыл бұрын
Please fix Daenerys in Game of Thrones!
@gwp4eva
@gwp4eva 4 жыл бұрын
it’s also been established that alcohol doesn’t affect Thor. in the first movie, he and Selvig stay out all night drinking, to the point where Thor, completely fine, has to carry a hammered Selvig home. then in Ragnarok he downs two massive mugs of beer from Dr Strange. if anything, he should’ve turned to drinking and just been buried by even more frustration that it had no affect on masking his pain
@Hashbrown1682
@Hashbrown1682 4 жыл бұрын
That reminds me in age of Ultron thor keeps a flask of alcohol from asgard to get drunk from
@sztallone415
@sztallone415 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hashbrown1682 exactly, and says to the Stan Lee cameo to be careful, it isnt made for mortals, but Stan tries anyway, and blacks out from just a drop
@XxsteamerxX
@XxsteamerxX 4 жыл бұрын
@@sztallone415 Yes! EXACTLY!! That's what I've been saying! Everyone is so willing to accept that he can just let himself go over 5 years because of his mental state. But it breaks the previously established laws of physics that apply to Thor which you 2 so perfectly laid out. Miss me with fat Thor
@kbuuns
@kbuuns 4 жыл бұрын
@@XxsteamerxX yes! I try to explain this to people. He's a god. Earth beer doesnt do anything to him. Fat thor is funny but it should have never existed
@Urdman
@Urdman 4 жыл бұрын
Cue... his berserk rage
@DanielKovacs33
@DanielKovacs33 4 жыл бұрын
Future “The Drinker Fixes” episode ideas: - Jamie Lannister - Hulk - DCEU Superman - Luke Skywalker - James Bond
@davidcarey1423
@davidcarey1423 4 жыл бұрын
Fixing Jake Skywalker is a tall order even for one as eloquent as drinker.
@angelphoenix7784
@angelphoenix7784 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidcarey1423 I'd like to add that the destruction of Luke was near complete. Sadly.
@silo_fx3182
@silo_fx3182 4 жыл бұрын
- Dr Who (closes browser, runs and hides)
@pepperonigawd
@pepperonigawd 4 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with Bond? (Not counting the new movie that no one has seen yet)
@kylefrank638
@kylefrank638 4 жыл бұрын
I pray to god he won't HAVE to do one for Jurassic World III, with the original three leads returning...
@adammuth3766
@adammuth3766 3 жыл бұрын
Driven, ruthless, cold-hearted...so he'd become like Odin was before? Sounds like that would be an interesting and poignant plot point which would make the encounter with his mother even deeper. Huh. Shame.
@Hashbrown1682
@Hashbrown1682 3 жыл бұрын
Yep and his mother would show him that he's become like how odin used to be, and thus setting him on a path to better himself, that he can still improve just as his father did before it's to late
@yalkn2073
@yalkn2073 2 жыл бұрын
Which do fit in with the Norse mythology
@Random_Person.-.
@Random_Person.-. 2 жыл бұрын
@lopez and we’ve seen people becoming a drunk loser while grieving a million more times. Both are played out tropes it’s just that trope in particular is more in character than what we got with haha funny drunk depressed Thor playing popular Battle Royale game
@Random_Person.-.
@Random_Person.-. 2 жыл бұрын
@lopez Really there wasn’t that much depth at all. His depression is played off as a joke the whole movie and not taken seriously until he talked to his mother and then his depression was instantly cured.
@Random_Person.-.
@Random_Person.-. 2 жыл бұрын
@lopez You’re missing my point. My biggest issue is that his depression was used as a joke by the writers and how quickly it was resolved. In the scenes showing Thors depression it isn’t framed in a way that it’s tragic but rather it’s used for comedy. The audience isn’t supposed to feel sorry for him, they’re meant to laugh at him. Also rather than him working throughout the movie to better himself mentally, it is played off as a joke until he meets his mother and it’s instantly resolved after one conversation.
@ricomuaddib8844
@ricomuaddib8844 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else getting The Drinker as an internal monologue? "I was about to make a sensible decision about lunch and not eat fast food, one both financially smart and benifical to my waistline. But my girlfriend was like 'Nah, it'll be fine'. Fuck off life!"
@guillaumeb5511
@guillaumeb5511 4 жыл бұрын
My internal monologue starts with The Drinker but ends up as Father Jack. Different Celtic folks, I know but it'll be foine.
@guillaumeb5511
@guillaumeb5511 4 жыл бұрын
@KNU: Kaiju Nerd United Well, that's all I had today. Go away now.
@DJKrEyVa
@DJKrEyVa 4 жыл бұрын
it's funny that you say that, when i worry about stuff (needlessly) i repeat to myself in my mind "nah, it's be fine" in his voice, and it actually helps hehe
@joshyboy9804
@joshyboy9804 4 жыл бұрын
The Drinker's voice usually pops in my head when I start questioning something.
@jdawson9944
@jdawson9944 4 жыл бұрын
Pa Haha Yes our new work catchphrase is "Doont care!'
@Beastinvader
@Beastinvader 4 жыл бұрын
Remember in IW when Thor had tears in his eyes when he spoke with Rocket? That's the Thor we should have seen in Endgame. Sad, perhaps isolated. But still with self-respect and self-awareness.
@steel0koala
@steel0koala 4 жыл бұрын
I also found it odd that in IW Rocket actually puts his usual asshole attitude to the side to help a guy he clearly sees needs it. The in EG when he needs help more then ever he's mocking him like everyone else. The fuck Rocket?
@rocstarang5747
@rocstarang5747 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite scene in any marvel movie.
@deepzone31
@deepzone31 4 жыл бұрын
This x 9000
@Agbahizzal
@Agbahizzal 4 жыл бұрын
I figured he went past that part to acceptance. I didn't think he would just give up his position. However I do know he struggles with the concept of never being worthy. Without his hammer providing that constant confirmation, and his first true test of leadership showing how bad he failed, I could see a psychosis occurring. Thor is a college jock who graduated from an ivy league school who was supposed to inherit his father's business. Then the market crashed and he is bankrupt. What man wouldn't say fuck it for a sec.
@Beastinvader
@Beastinvader 4 жыл бұрын
@@Agbahizzal I understand, but it would have made more sense to go further than breaking down. Like imagine a Thor completely isolated, like Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi. Angry, sees no one, maybe blames everyone except himself (knowing he is most to blame). Perhaps he developed a distrust to humanity (maybe the refugees were treated like invaders?). That would have been just as powerful as the lame gamer-arc. He would still have broken down at his mother's side, and felt that joy in weilding Mjolnir. Basically, going on all comedic was only one way of exploring depression and a breakdown. And unfortunately it was the more disrespectful way.
@Noin007
@Noin007 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not ready to lead, I became a drunken loser. So I give the crown to you, Valkyrie... who was a drunken loser just a movie ago..."
@franciscolaurean8550
@franciscolaurean8550 4 жыл бұрын
But she's a black lesbian woman so there's that
@user-gm4kv2my4u
@user-gm4kv2my4u 4 жыл бұрын
Remember. The "pussy pass" is totally a myth...
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-gm4kv2my4u It's all too real.
@user-gm4kv2my4u
@user-gm4kv2my4u 4 жыл бұрын
@King of Knights I was pissed at this. Thor isn't a worthy leader of Asgrad bit the fucking alcholilic, deserting, slaver is? This is how you can tell Marvel is doomed. My friends and I went to see this movie. We rarely agree on movies. Especially strongly agree. All 3 of us agreed that endgame sssssuuuccckkeed! Hulk? Ruined? Thanos? Ruined. Thor? Ruined.
@tjfrye11
@tjfrye11 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-gm4kv2my4u honestly, i thought the valkyrie becoming king thing was bad... but i never actually thought about what you just said, that she's every bit as bad as thor was in the 1st part of endgame, if not worse, but she's qualified to lead & he's not
@Batman12810
@Batman12810 4 жыл бұрын
They nerfed Thor and Hulk so Captain Marvel can be the "Mightiest Avenger".
@adams303
@adams303 4 жыл бұрын
Well duh, she's so stunning and brave.
@RemyBeast
@RemyBeast 4 жыл бұрын
Scarlett Witch is supposed to be the most powerful Avenger anyway, but they super nerfed her.
@bingram2011
@bingram2011 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to seeing Thanos and Professor Hulk.... That was the only disappointment for me
@Batman12810
@Batman12810 4 жыл бұрын
@@bingram2011 Professor Hulk would have gotten beat worse than in Infinity War- dude didn't even want to "Smash". I have no interest in seeing a Professor Hulk stand alone film.
@tonylester3868
@tonylester3868 4 жыл бұрын
Don"t forget they pussy whipped CA and killed off Ironman.
@sbird8675
@sbird8675 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I found it so weird that out of all the characters in Endgame, Thor was the only one not treated with any dignity. Sure, Thor Ragnarok had a lot of humour, but it still treated Thor with respect. In Endgame, as soon as Thor became "Fat Thor" even the most dramatic moments for Thor had inappropriate humour. It came off as such a sudden and bizarre personality switch that every time the movie cut to him, I felt taken out of it a bit.
@grandmasteryoda3594
@grandmasteryoda3594 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, mostly i agree he was treated with respect, but he was beaten by tessa thompson a bit.
@Reza1984_
@Reza1984_ 4 жыл бұрын
A drunk man wrote a far superior plot than the Disney writers with 7 figure paychecks
@KRYMauL
@KRYMauL 3 жыл бұрын
They gave Thor depression because he failed to protect his people, then used that arc to make him the big Luborsky. As bad as it may seem on the surface, I liked his development because it mirrors my own as I complete college.
@Jormungrandrserpent
@Jormungrandrserpent 3 жыл бұрын
writers where too busy counting their money to do the job!
@haiqal5333
@haiqal5333 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jormungrandrserpent or just the other plot threads and character arcs they have to resolve in one movie. I mean it's doable but pretty hard to make a good storyline while resolving multiple character arcs plus setting up future movies for said characters. Buuuttt they still get paid the big bucks presumably.....
@KRYMauL
@KRYMauL 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Potfees I lost weight while having depression, so nice try twat.
@phantomliger89
@phantomliger89 3 жыл бұрын
@@KRYMauL I liked it as well. Makes a lot more sense than the proposal in this video. And good on you for getting through that.
@danibles1648
@danibles1648 3 жыл бұрын
you're onto something. and thor lashing out at banner would be a great arc from the first avengers movie where hulk and thor fought because hulk couldn't control his rage. very poetic.
@rimurutempest4945
@rimurutempest4945 3 жыл бұрын
This would be a great callback to that moment, especially considering they’ve switched places. Professor Hulk feels more complete than he ever felt, while Thor felt lost and in despair that he never quite felt before.
@Jhh1023
@Jhh1023 3 жыл бұрын
@@rimurutempest4945 you missed the point.. prof. H., isn't compleat Hulk, he's emasculated hulk. He doesn't not get mad, he can't get mad. The closest he comes is throwing a bench at Natassha's demise... and crying. I'll take "Hulk Smash! "Any day.
@davebruneau6068
@davebruneau6068 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jhh1023 We watch Hulk leaping from skyscraper to skyscraper in...how many movies?...but then he must "take the stairs". Now he's clearly pissed. However,instead of 'Being the Hulk(you know,the character he has been forever) and simply 'Jumping'(remember...he is PISSED!) he actually walks down all the stairs,which leads to...well,you know the rest. Talk about changing a character to fit the story. As much of a disservice was done to him as to 'Fat Thor'. But,hey,it made millions so who gives a fuck
@davebruneau6068
@davebruneau6068 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jhh1023 I mean...nah,it'll be fine
@hex0016
@hex0016 2 жыл бұрын
@@rimurutempest4945 And it would echo the switching places that took place between Steve and Tony. Steve sacrifices himself at the end of the First Avenger, but finally carves out some happiness for himself at the end of Endgame. Tony goes from being a self-absorbed prick to ultimately sacrificing his life to protect a family and a future he won’t live to see.
@skyesfury8511
@skyesfury8511 4 жыл бұрын
"or is there another character you'd like to see me fix?" All of the everything for the past 10 years, please.
@adampeel6161
@adampeel6161 4 жыл бұрын
Nah John Wick is fine right where he is.
@skyesfury8511
@skyesfury8511 4 жыл бұрын
​@@adampeel6161 He could fix John Wick 3, at least. Strange to say it, but 3 is too much fighting.
@Miluielle
@Miluielle 4 жыл бұрын
Let's make it the last 20 years just to be safe and get it done!
@RanMouri82
@RanMouri82 4 жыл бұрын
Especially circa 2016. Because woke nonsense created a massive dung heap.
@adampeel6161
@adampeel6161 4 жыл бұрын
@@skyesfury8511 Nothing wrong with his character though. I agree JW3 was the worst one.
@omniscienteye8880
@omniscienteye8880 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a film written and/or directed by The Drinker. Hell, I'd even pay.
@ernestomiloli8414
@ernestomiloli8414 3 жыл бұрын
I'd throw my money at him 2 see it! I'd have an inflatable llama and a wine glass in hand at d cinema
@omniscienteye8880
@omniscienteye8880 3 жыл бұрын
@@ernestomiloli8414 🤣
@teacherfromthejungles6671
@teacherfromthejungles6671 3 жыл бұрын
@@omniscienteye8880 you can read nine books he wrote
@billysinge8977
@billysinge8977 3 жыл бұрын
I’d act in it! I trust him to make a good plot and parts that are actually worth playing.
@marckhachfe1238
@marckhachfe1238 2 жыл бұрын
You know, thats how movies get made, people pay for them. I like how you are suggesting that paying for a film is a special circumstance. LOL. Im just joshing really, don't take what i said too seriously.
@gnarlin4964
@gnarlin4964 4 жыл бұрын
Drinker: Your version is about a billion times better.
@CheesyCharlie
@CheesyCharlie 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t understand how Asgard was destroyed as it was a Multiracial Utopia. I thought that was unbeatable
@WideAwakeViking
@WideAwakeViking 4 жыл бұрын
Because it was lead by straight white males.
@martymcfly88mph35
@martymcfly88mph35 4 жыл бұрын
@@WideAwakeViking they let minorities in and it ruined the place... what do ya know
@tjfrye11
@tjfrye11 4 жыл бұрын
@@martymcfly88mph35 i don't any got in illegally, so i don't that ruined it... it was obviously just because thor was in charge & not diverse female asgardian
@johnwendland7908
@johnwendland7908 4 жыл бұрын
@@WideAwakeViking this!
@jamied1579
@jamied1579 4 жыл бұрын
.....And in the end Asgard was destroyed by a woman - which is what happens when women have too much power.....their greed and selfishness overwhelms everything else.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
There's a term for what they did to Thor: Character Derailment. Most ,if not all, of the grown and personality of the character is ignored in order to make something happen that by all logic shouldn't. It's bad writing, to put it mildly.
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz 4 жыл бұрын
Star wars suffer from it a lot (and Especially the Last Jedi) Luke Fin Poe just from the top of my Head
@Emeezyonthetrack
@Emeezyonthetrack 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people have a problem with fat Thor. It was taken directly from the comics...Yes Fat Thor existed in the comics.
@MoffatLee
@MoffatLee 4 жыл бұрын
@@Emeezyonthetrack There's plenty of other stupid stuff from the comics they left there for good reasons, the same applies here.
@Emeezyonthetrack
@Emeezyonthetrack 4 жыл бұрын
Lee Moffat I guess it's a matter of perspective. Honestly I looked at Fat Thor as a tribute to the die hard comic fans who would be the only ones to know about it. And I also saw it as a sly fuck you to the casual female fans who were only watching to see "sexy Thor" and it gave him depth since we were forced to pay attention to his personality and mind.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
@@Emeezyonthetrack To be real, if it's something so obscure that only diehard fans would know about it, chances are, no one on the staff did either. Moreover, it didn't really give him any depth. It was just a bad joke that went on for way too long and made 0 sense for the character. Thor would be more like Hawkeye was than like The Dude.
@margolane3361
@margolane3361 4 жыл бұрын
The Marvel writers gelded Thor to give the "Patriarchy" the middle finger and to replace cis white man with stunning and brave bi whamen of color, change my mind.
@LeoStaley
@LeoStaley 4 жыл бұрын
Next Thor movie has Natalie Portman taking on the role of God of Thunder. Not even kidding.
@wolfe374171
@wolfe374171 4 жыл бұрын
I will not change your mind, you're absolutely correct. Combine their ideology with their lackluster writing skills and you get a series of strong male characters being turned into jokes simply to make all the female characters they interact with look better. I mean if what Ruin Roundhead Johnson did to Luke Skywalker just to make Rey look better isn't evidence enough, I don't know what is.
@Noplayster13
@Noplayster13 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t understood why no one mentions that the Valkyrie is essentially a villain. What are her redeeming qualities supposed to be again?
@TheFinalGate_
@TheFinalGate_ 4 жыл бұрын
Noplayster she’s hot🤤
@Noplayster13
@Noplayster13 4 жыл бұрын
M. Black If only she didn’t speak eh? Or do anything...
@LookAtThatFreak
@LookAtThatFreak 4 жыл бұрын
Thor and the Hulk were pussified in End Game.
@Gery8
@Gery8 4 жыл бұрын
partly to leave miss marvel some space to shine
@nont18411
@nont18411 4 жыл бұрын
I was upset that Hulk never get a rematch against Thanos
@I_like_turtles_67
@I_like_turtles_67 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Rufalo IS a pussy in real life.
@mveytia
@mveytia 4 жыл бұрын
Disagree. Thor was clownified, sure. But Hulk's progression into Professor Hulk was a long established comic storyline. He reversed the snap too. Not a pussy at all.
@AzerothLatinoamerica
@AzerothLatinoamerica 4 жыл бұрын
Banner is a pussy because he taugh himself to be a pussy to keep Hulk at bay. Besides Hulk gives a taco to Ant man. I see this a s an absolute win
@Urdman
@Urdman 4 жыл бұрын
This version of Thor could have introduced us to his Berserk Rage that he’s known for in the comics, thus also expanding on the Asgardian mythos as well
@monkeyswithshoes308
@monkeyswithshoes308 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted grumpy old man Thor from the comics, this would have basically been it. He still could have cracked a couple jokes, his old self shining through here and there, to give you hope, but it's so heavily weighed down by his fatalism that he often appears to be operating by contempt. He's not a carbon copy of Odin, not by a long shot, but seeing him embrace harsh practicalities would be engaging to watch, and sad knowing how much of Thor's vibrant self is lost in this scenario.
@charlesbeck5511
@charlesbeck5511 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea, plus he could have used his belt of strength mentioned in Spiderman
@Urdman
@Urdman 4 жыл бұрын
Charles Beck WE WERE ROBBED I TELL YOU
@Groggers96
@Groggers96 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how they can write Thor so well in Infinity War but then fuck it up so bad in Endgame.
@VecheslavNovikov
@VecheslavNovikov 2 жыл бұрын
It's fairly realistic for what depression does to people.
@DARKNESSrbg
@DARKNESSrbg 2 жыл бұрын
@@VecheslavNovikov for a human, not a god that has lived for 1500 years
@alatusedits
@alatusedits 2 күн бұрын
@@VecheslavNovikov it doesn't exist
@troyamonga0005
@troyamonga0005 4 жыл бұрын
"llama in one hand and a bloodstained shovel in the other." OH MY GOD HE KILLED CHRISRAYGUN
@tjfrye11
@tjfrye11 4 жыл бұрын
so that's why he hadn't uploaded in a while... paul probably helped the drinker do it too
@NThommo
@NThommo 4 жыл бұрын
@@tjfrye11 Too busy sh*****g Laci???
@SolarFlareAmerica
@SolarFlareAmerica 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I kept thinking this same thought every time I saw his character in endgame: Rather than take a chance to illustrate how trauma and loss and powerlessness turns people into abusers of power, the movie settles for making fat jokes.
@OneShotBruh
@OneShotBruh 4 жыл бұрын
But, for some reason, the MCU never made fun of fat women. Hmm...
@EvilMoW
@EvilMoW 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion both the versions discussed could work. Both show two very plausible outcomes that can come from the depression of losing 'nearly' everything you care for. 'either give up entirely or hold tighter to whats left.' The fat jokes failed badly though. that part I didn't agree with. When he learned about the time travel idea he should've been a little more interested/ enthusiastic. I'd think 'A chance to fix my mistakes' would be a good cause for someone with survivors guilt/ depression to rally to.
@stevebr551
@stevebr551 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with The Critical Drinker is that he's not woke enough for Hollywood, which is exactly why I like him!
@thatoneguychad420
@thatoneguychad420 2 жыл бұрын
The Drinker also knows much more than he lets on. Occasionally I see the glimpses of genius insight into our mad world.
@TroySavary
@TroySavary 4 жыл бұрын
That was a pretty amazing way to fix the character while still telling the same story. Especially the reason for leaving Valkyrie in charge. I hated the movie reason. Thor was unworthy because he spent 5 years as a drunk avoiding his responsibilities, so he passed the mantle to a girl who spent 1500 years as a drunk avoiding her responsibilities.
@DavidAnderson-vg8uz
@DavidAnderson-vg8uz 4 жыл бұрын
*handclaps
@pmarin3855
@pmarin3855 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s a very insightful comparison. Thank you Troy!
@dannypalin9583
@dannypalin9583 4 жыл бұрын
Not only did she run away from her responsibilities, she sold aliens into slavery and eventually execution in the arena. But, they show she's friends with the Hulk, so that makes her a good person!
@TroySavary
@TroySavary 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannypalin9583 Thor's reaction to Hulk naked shows why Valkyrie liked Hulk.
@djsonicc
@djsonicc 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely like the idea of cold and ruthless Thor.
@pietropes1322
@pietropes1322 2 жыл бұрын
I do as well - the problem is he'd be too powerful in End Game. I think the reason they did Fat Thor was because IW Thor was OP, he basically killed Thanos at the end of IW who just got the snap off before he died to undo it. An awakened, angry Thor on his A game with Stormbreaker would be too powerful and would steal the limelight away from Steve and Tony. Kinda like why Vision was incapacitated very early on in IW as he too would have been OP and would have presented issues for Thanos in IW. Vision and Thor both get nerfed to allow the events to take place but I agree they could have come up with something better than Fat Thor, argument there.
@G_Thor
@G_Thor 3 жыл бұрын
Drinker, you glorious bastard, you have captured the essence of and (hopefully) recovery of PTSD. This encapsulates how a warrior (military or no) tends to react in the face of traumatic event(s). This would have been realistic and positive.
@92brunod
@92brunod 3 ай бұрын
"(military or no)" ¿?
@davidkymdell452
@davidkymdell452 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a character that's way too serious for for Hemsworth to stick around. Dude is all about humour these days. I prefer serious Thor with bits if humour, not funny Thor with bits of brevity.
@funnyfunnyvalentine7991
@funnyfunnyvalentine7991 4 жыл бұрын
First Thor was best Thor
@davidkymdell452
@davidkymdell452 4 жыл бұрын
@@funnyfunnyvalentine7991 I agree dude. I liked the Branagh theatrical touch. Not that I don't have crititicisms but I liked that more serious Thor like the comics. Just like I prefer the first Lord of the Rings movie.....had a more epic feel.
@EgyptianSpaceDog
@EgyptianSpaceDog 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidkymdell452 Fellowship's my favourite LotR movie too, but how did it feel more epic than Two Towers or (especially) Return of the King?
@christopheredwards5337
@christopheredwards5337 4 жыл бұрын
to be fair though Thor was getting stale in some regards and hemsworth felt this way. Rag made him and Hulk have comedy but still be fucking badasses. Thor literally had to stop Hulk from taking out Surter and he had good moments with Loki. Plus i admire the use of led zepplin lol.
@davidkymdell452
@davidkymdell452 4 жыл бұрын
@@EgyptianSpaceDog maybe epic is the wrong word. Mmm....more...real? Sure, the other movies were bigger because there was more going on but the sense of adventure was greater in the first movie and I connected more with the characters. If I'm not mistaken, the first movie covers more ground geographically than the other two.
@nimarus3118
@nimarus3118 4 жыл бұрын
Disney: "No male Avenger can be allowed to come anywhere close to being as overpowered as our new mascot...Captain Marvel. Seig Feminismus! Seig Feminismus! Seig Feminismus!" Fans: ... 😦?
@mousemickey5428
@mousemickey5428 3 жыл бұрын
gosh this video was so good. I can’t express enough how much I enjoy your videos. you go into real depth, there’s not a moment where I feel bored or I feel like there’s just filler in the video. every sentence you say genuinely adds to the video and you just do such a good job. as someone with ADD it’s hard to find a video longer than 30 seconds that keeps my attention but you succeed in encapsulating me for the entirety of the video
@hilmanic28
@hilmanic28 4 жыл бұрын
I never thought about it this way, I always thought it was reasonable he got depressed since he failed and the world got fcked. The only issue I had with Thor in end game was that the writers totally forgot he could open the Bifrost with his new axe
@rimurutempest4945
@rimurutempest4945 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck even I forgot that feature lol
@endiewarners5203
@endiewarners5203 3 жыл бұрын
But when did he need the bifrost? Where did he need to travel during endgame?
@Mechachao
@Mechachao 3 жыл бұрын
@@endiewarners5203 I could see the Thor we knew from previous movies beginning a quest to seek out time travel/a means of fixing the universe well before the other avengers. He has the Bifrost literally at his disposal and was established even in Infinity War as "I'm still here because fate willed it" he could have spent the last five years on an obsessive quest looking for a way to undo Thanos' damage, rather than just accepting Thanos' "what's done is done" line. Thor doesn't accept defeat so easily. Then suppose when he's introduced in Endgame, it's after 5 exhausting years of chasing anything remotely resembling a lead, only stopping in to New Asgard for occasional supplies (thereby being just as scarce and uninvested) and when Hulk and Rocket find him he's not depressed and fat, but rather just tired and put out. He's searched every corner of the universe and found nothing.
@hilmanic28
@hilmanic28 3 жыл бұрын
@@endiewarners5203 Opening scene? The scene where he came back to the HQ?
@trackydoo
@trackydoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mechachao oh, I do like your version much better than fat Thor.
@mrsucc2138
@mrsucc2138 3 жыл бұрын
The way you say "diverse" cracks me up.
@Fedaygin
@Fedaygin 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he does it well on purpose :) #TodaysCrapFilmingPolicy
@harbl99
@harbl99 4 жыл бұрын
The only good, congruent moment Thor had in _Endgame_ was "I _knew_ it!" when Cap picks up Mjolnir. It shows that Thor has become big-hearted and confident enough to revel in a moment he felt nervous about in _Age of Ultron_ .
@KnuckleHunkybuck
@KnuckleHunkybuck 4 жыл бұрын
And the fact that Cap had the decency not to reveal it until it was necessary to save Thor's life... _[Italian chef finger-kissing gesture]_
@GeorgeMonet
@GeorgeMonet 3 жыл бұрын
Uh what? No. That was one of the most stupid moments in the movie. It also made no sense. Either the hammer doesn't do anything and Thor's power is completely internal, or else the hammer is the thing that has all the power so Ragnarok was wrong. Plus even without the hammer Thor is much stronger than Captain America and is also much more durable. So if Thor can't get the job done then Captain America would be utterly useless. Thor should have be yelling "wtf you think you gonna do against Thanos except get your ass beat?" It's called internal consistency.
@fearthemerciful
@fearthemerciful 3 жыл бұрын
I think this whole character arc in Endgame is a great litmus test for how people react to complete failure. Some people never recover, while others see it as a reason to start down a new path. Some characters would fall into "fat" depression, but not Thor. His journey changed him into a person who wouldn't react passively.
@carlosleyva-calistenia6400
@carlosleyva-calistenia6400 Жыл бұрын
Came too late here, but I agree. If they had made their homework and investigated actual depression, they would have found people like Thor never give up entirely forever, but they have episodes when they give up entirely on life for many months intermingled with episodes of total focus (almost to the point of mania) on getting things done.
@WOranos
@WOranos 4 жыл бұрын
The introduction of "Fat Thor" was the point in End Game that I checked out. Not just out of the movie, but out of the MCU. And not a moment too soon, apparently.
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was fun to see other side of him in Ragnarok, but they took it way too far. To a point where is not funny. It's incoherent he gave away his right to a Valkyrie that doesn't even look like a Valkyrie in the first place.
@kempkennedy5068
@kempkennedy5068 4 жыл бұрын
@@Emy-fv5ny I can get people being mad about it I guess, especially comic die-hards... but I actually had no problem with it. It nerfed him for the end battle (kind of needed) and let you feel for him more deeply as his hero's journey arc revolved around to his realization that even at his worst, he was still worthy. I do like how Drinker changed the 'take' on him, but he did get redemption in the end. If a Thor fan from comics, sure, I would be pissed. But I'm not. And I liked (enough at least) the way they handled him even knowing they nerfed him for laughs. (Truthfully the Drinker version would have been equally as fulfilling though)!
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny 4 жыл бұрын
@@kempkennedy5068 They made him the comic relief of the movie when they had plenty of characters who were better at that. Sorry, it is what it is and it's not good to me.
@owendillon3289
@owendillon3289 4 жыл бұрын
Your pathetic and toxic if don't like one thing that doesn't mean you just lose all hope it's one fucking get over your self your like those star wars fans who cry that the sequels ruined there fandom and act like the original trilogy had absolutely no flaws
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny 4 жыл бұрын
@@owendillon3289 Pathetic is not accept that ppl have different opinions and that they don't have to like something just because the rest or the majority do. In the case of the Star Wars fans, when you really love something you will know what it's to be a fan and what it feels to see what you love being destroyed in front of your eyes.
@maartineriksson
@maartineriksson 3 жыл бұрын
The really sad thing is that the dramatic scenes with "depressed Thor" were really highlights to watch. They should've gone harder on the theme of him being broken but making jokes from time to time, instead of a joker with a touch of depression. "Viking Thor" at the end of the movie, was amazing.
@rimurutempest4945
@rimurutempest4945 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, his scene with his mother and when he shows vulnerability was such a treat to watch.
@idreeskhan8885
@idreeskhan8885 3 жыл бұрын
Its messed up that they made it funny to see a man down when so many men worldwide commit suicide- Number one biggest of men. Fucking bs society. Clearly because hes a man they not only dont care but they actually laugh and make fun of him. Sick.
@maxim196
@maxim196 3 жыл бұрын
@@idreeskhan8885 Exactly....remember Wanda ? was she a butt of every joke so far ? NO!
@howisthatgay4275
@howisthatgay4275 3 жыл бұрын
@@idreeskhan8885 I didn’t see it as just played for laughs. Some of it was dramatic like when Thanos is mentioned
@idreeskhan8885
@idreeskhan8885 3 жыл бұрын
@@howisthatgay4275 It was played for laughs, a massively part of it was. It was taking the piss out of him and the intention was for everyone to laugh, which they did in audiences. They also made him funny while depressed in order to make the audience laugh, but thats not how people are when depressed. You even have Rocket raccoon slap him. Could never think of this being done to a girl who is even 1 percent as depressed as Thor was.
@macklyon7476
@macklyon7476 4 жыл бұрын
I told my eleven-year-old brother to write an essay about this movie (quarantine and he was bored). He had to tell me his favorite parts and his least favorite parts. As well as his favorite characters and least favorite characters. He told me his favorite part was the fight. His least favorite part was how they treated Thor. That it would have been funny if it was just for a few scenes, but that he should have worked it off to be the old Thor. His favorite character is Iron Man and his least favorite character was “Captain Woman” (he forgot her name, but I think that fits pretty well). If an eleven-year-old can understand that better than the actually trained screenwriter, then we have a problem.
@Daishi18
@Daishi18 4 жыл бұрын
That´s quite a god activity to give to your kid to spend this quarantine...
@Telcontar86
@Telcontar86 4 жыл бұрын
"Captain Woman" 🤣 That does indeed sum it up
@Saepient
@Saepient 4 жыл бұрын
@MackLyon same thing happened to my friend's son. His favorite character was Thor and when he saw what they did to him he hated it right away. He left the cinema very disappointed.
@commandercaptain4664
@commandercaptain4664 4 жыл бұрын
@@Telcontar86 "Rear Admiral Lady"
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 4 жыл бұрын
Captain woman is way too accurate lol
@jettemoraga4556
@jettemoraga4556 3 жыл бұрын
odin: "look at how they massacred my boy"
@cooldrop02
@cooldrop02 3 жыл бұрын
This is perfect and what I would've like to see. Your "change" is exactly what his father feared would. A war driven Thor. The meeting with his mother, her being the one to him him find his heart again is perfect. Fuck man.
@hasif9393
@hasif9393 4 жыл бұрын
Thor Ragnarok: You are not the God of Hammers Avengers Infinity War: Thor needs a new hammer
@UltronImperative
@UltronImperative 4 жыл бұрын
Hasif Baharin it wasn’t his source of power, but he needed a conduit to focus and channel his power to harm Thanos, Odin had the Odin force but still used his staff to channel his power so Thor having a weapon to increase his potential makes sense
@tiger_lord305
@tiger_lord305 4 жыл бұрын
Lazy Lajdak He needed the new axe to kill Thanos. This was stated in the movie. Thanos is damn near indestructible and whooped Thor in the very beginning of that movie. He could resist his like lightning just like Hela did. Only a weapon like Stormbreaker can penetrate through Thanos skin and it blocked the power of the stones.
@UltronImperative
@UltronImperative 4 жыл бұрын
Lazy Lajdak what would cause more damage, a normal wave of water that usually hit people on a beach, or the same amount of water hitting someone all at the same time like a wave but through a small pressure hose? Hint: one of these would be lethal
@hulmhochberg8129
@hulmhochberg8129 4 жыл бұрын
@@revolverswitch yea, I also believe Odin Sacraficed his eye for wisdom. And in the movie Thor definitely ecomes wiser while also losing his eye witch gave it even more significants
@doomed2crumble819
@doomed2crumble819 4 жыл бұрын
Marvel: look I’m gonna need you to get all the way off my back about great writing, we just don’t do that here.
@scifiwriter98
@scifiwriter98 4 жыл бұрын
But it should be super easy, barely an inconvenience considering the resources you can afford to put into the movie..
@kossend1
@kossend1 4 жыл бұрын
@@scifiwriter98 Whoopsy
@KingOfBattle119
@KingOfBattle119 4 жыл бұрын
Lemme get off of that thang!
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
It's not even great writing, merely adequate writing, yet it's leagues above what we got.
@Wicked061
@Wicked061 4 жыл бұрын
Wow wow wow
@peoplekind8592
@peoplekind8592 4 жыл бұрын
They needed to make Captain Marvel the strongest. Thats why they fooked with thor
@denkerbosu3551
@denkerbosu3551 4 жыл бұрын
"I like this one"
@martinstein9553
@martinstein9553 4 жыл бұрын
Insightful.
@chicostephenson
@chicostephenson 4 жыл бұрын
You're right. You are absolutely right about that. They can't just make women strong. They have to tear the men down as well.
@DuendeTortuga
@DuendeTortuga 4 жыл бұрын
And yet, they only used her in the movie for a few minutes..
@Dark-cp2fl
@Dark-cp2fl 4 жыл бұрын
@@DuendeTortuga Thanks God. . .
@SweetMapple
@SweetMapple 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this just makes me sad. Such potential absolutely decimated for a gag, Christ
@wendys390
@wendys390 4 жыл бұрын
She doesn't look much like a Valkyrie...diversity kills authenticity doesn't it
@wendys390
@wendys390 4 жыл бұрын
@Leon Robinson No, then they'd say she was marginalized by being portrayed as adopted rather than as a "real" Valkyrie...
@atoughworld1547
@atoughworld1547 3 жыл бұрын
The "I'm still worthy" was probably one of my all time favorite marvel moments
@u4yk
@u4yk 4 жыл бұрын
This video reminds me how to fix Valkyrie, which is also the same way to fix Charlotte Hale on Westworld: replace Tessa Thompson with a department store mannequin -- the latter would be a vastly superior upgrade.
@chrissanders2160
@chrissanders2160 4 жыл бұрын
I was saddened by how Thor was treated in Endgame. He was my favourite Marvel hero growing up and to see him as a fat waste of skin broke my heart. It tainted the enjoyment I should have felt watching the spectacular conclusion to the Infinity Saga.
@427Arbok
@427Arbok 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that is understated about Thor's arc is that he did have a unique role in enabling Thanos. Had he not destroyed Asgard and defeated Hela, Thanos might've never gotten the Tesseract and the snap might've never happened. Not only this, but this all happened under Thor's watch-he finally takes the reigns, and everything goes more horribly wrong than it had ever done before. Though it might not have been especially his fault, that doesn't mean Thor might not convince himself that it was. Emphasized correctly, this could be taken to produce the sort of broken version of Thor we saw in Endgame, although I think a more serious take would've been appropriate. Otherwise, however, it isn't entirely unreasonable for Thor to think that his father had been wrong to entrust him with the fate of Asgard, especially if he interpreted events in a particular way. Unfortunately, what I'm describing is an idealized version of what was shown, not the actuality of it, and it's pretty clear that Fat Thor was a decision made primarily for comedy and not to explore the damage these failures did to him mentally.
@shieldwallofdragons
@shieldwallofdragons 4 жыл бұрын
427Arbok you make a good point...it did happen under his watch...but lest we forget it was hella that caused it all...he destroyed Asgard to prevent her spreading throughout the galaxy as we know she would have...it was his and his peoples sacrifice he should be remembered for. Also he had no idea that thanos was going to benefit or he maybe would have factored it into his actions.
@keithgordon3823
@keithgordon3823 Жыл бұрын
That scene between Thor & his dad was awesome! Hopkins is the MAN!!!! I remember watching that, back in the day...and it shut me down! Awesome scene!
@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.
@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. 4 жыл бұрын
"So I woke up in my back garden the other day with an inflatable llama in one hand and a bloodstained shovel in the other..." ...and I'm hooked. I'll follow wherever this raconteur leads.
@andrewaja5895
@andrewaja5895 4 ай бұрын
This is one of the first videos of yours I watched. It’s the main reason I got into your work
@rullangaar
@rullangaar 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s a challenge: Fix Jon Snow’s story arc for the final two seasons of GOTR. Or any of the other main characters.
@thundercat1081
@thundercat1081 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I'd love for him to fix literally every main characters arch in season 8. Especially Jamie and John.
@robertlewis6915
@robertlewis6915 4 жыл бұрын
He'd have to break the whole "no altering the plot in its major details" rule at least somewhat after fixing even one of the major characters.
@thundercat1081
@thundercat1081 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertlewis6915 that's true
@mythhead2688
@mythhead2688 4 жыл бұрын
Make Tyrion Smart Again
@princessleiaorgana7238
@princessleiaorgana7238 4 жыл бұрын
@@mythhead2688 and Varys.
@MysticalBat
@MysticalBat 2 жыл бұрын
This was definitely a missed opportunity. Love your take on Thor so much better than the one we ended up with
@soljwf5664
@soljwf5664 4 жыл бұрын
People: Fat Thor sucks Fat Thor: Yeah well you know that’s just your opinion man
@BobbinMcferry
@BobbinMcferry 4 жыл бұрын
why do people always just quote it, like, wrong.. man..
@johnpliskin8759
@johnpliskin8759 4 жыл бұрын
except a bunch of ppl, like me, loved fat thor, he was great
@denkeylee
@denkeylee 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnpliskin8759 And he really didn't let himself go. He still found time to shave his chest. Baths bad, chest shaving a priority.
@erikskelton6597
@erikskelton6597 4 жыл бұрын
The Fat Thor abides
@cruddddddddddddddd
@cruddddddddddddddd 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, sol.
@reedr7142
@reedr7142 Жыл бұрын
I noticed a sharp turn in Ragnarok-Thor’s ineptitude started once Valkyrie came on screen-probably not a coincidence either.
@RedDead354
@RedDead354 4 жыл бұрын
i genuinely like your version a million times better, it would almost be worth the cost to re shoot it
@madginger3634
@madginger3634 4 жыл бұрын
This was so much better than Thor: Fatnarok.
@loraleesmith9861
@loraleesmith9861 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who didn't like what Thor had been reduced to. You have proven that they didn't need to ruin Thor to get from point A to point B.
@raidenshat5206
@raidenshat5206 4 жыл бұрын
I just don’t like how they made cap stronger than him using his own weapon
@domblack6288
@domblack6288 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that Cap's super soldier serum was why he was stronger with Mjolnir than Thor was.
@bakedgoods7116
@bakedgoods7116 4 жыл бұрын
@@domblack6288 What? That doesn't even make sense, why would a Super Soldier be stronger than a God using his own weapon.
@milesandrews6711
@milesandrews6711 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really think he's stronger than him at least in their primes
@milesandrews6711
@milesandrews6711 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really think he's stronger than him at least in their primes
@pungentbear5194
@pungentbear5194 4 жыл бұрын
Bad writing.
@maxmagnus3793
@maxmagnus3793 4 жыл бұрын
Love it. I completely agree that Thor was out of character in endgame whereas in Infinity war he was such a badass
@seanbell69
@seanbell69 2 жыл бұрын
One moment would fix so much with this character: when Thor reaches out for Mjolnir, after talking to his mom, it shouldn't have come. He wasn't worthy. He gave in and gave up, let his body and his mind fall apart, and capitulated to his feelings of inadequacy. To see the devastation on his face knowing that he is unworthy and it is no one's fault but his own would be more impactful than anything else that happened to him in that film.
@chrispalmer9838
@chrispalmer9838 4 жыл бұрын
"The Drinker Fixes James Bond" was needed three films ago...
@chrispalmer9838
@chrispalmer9838 4 жыл бұрын
Actually make that five...
@syaz193
@syaz193 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrispalmer9838 Wait, forgive me if I was ignorant enough, but what happened to the previous 2 movies before Craig-shitstorm?
@chrispalmer9838
@chrispalmer9838 4 жыл бұрын
@@syaz193 They made good money but were considered somewhat lacking according to many...
@chrispalmer9838
@chrispalmer9838 4 жыл бұрын
@@syaz193 sorry thought you meant before Craig's films...
@syaz193
@syaz193 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrispalmer9838 I see. But yes. I meant before Craig becomes the Bond (As if he is one)
@drTERRRORRR
@drTERRRORRR 2 жыл бұрын
"...with great vengeance and furious anger." I love you,man.
@theanimeslayer3999
@theanimeslayer3999 4 жыл бұрын
Thor has already gone through enough adversity and proved how heroic he can be in infinity war, he is the most manly avenger ... thats why it was crucial they had to tear him down and emasculate him.
@thibaldus3
@thibaldus3 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. That's as simple as that.
@joffy9373
@joffy9373 4 жыл бұрын
Do you realise how dumb that comment is? It would be the same as if Aragorn (who was considered the "ideal" man) suddenly said; nah the throne is not for me. Instead I need to become fat and a miserable drunk and go on my own adventures because the truth is a black gay woman deserves to rule instead because shes a woman. Sounds stupid? Yeah, thats how stupid Thor's arc was in endgame.
@Al-Ghaibb
@Al-Ghaibb 4 жыл бұрын
@@joffy9373 Thanks for reminding me why The Lord of the rings still remains the best triolgy ever created.
@cromcccxvi3787
@cromcccxvi3787 Жыл бұрын
"Probably the last decent Marvel flick we will get in quite a while"............... you nailed that
@1bert719
@1bert719 4 жыл бұрын
I would've loved this version. Shame Hollywood can't write movies for toffee anymore.
@mandalorianjedi688
@mandalorianjedi688 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is growing quickly.May the drinker reach 1 million fast 👍
@Batcow7735
@Batcow7735 4 жыл бұрын
Odin: "You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy!" Thor "OK boomer"
@1COMODIN9
@1COMODIN9 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@vm_duc
@vm_duc 4 жыл бұрын
pretty much what he said tbh
@GigaChadh976
@GigaChadh976 4 жыл бұрын
Thor “SILENCE BOOMER”
@CinemacrestStudios
@CinemacrestStudios 4 жыл бұрын
That might be the first Ok Boomer joke that has legitimately made me laugh. 😂
@1COMODIN9
@1COMODIN9 4 жыл бұрын
@@CinemacrestStudios what about all the derivatives? Ok commer, Ok groomer, they're pretty funny...
@orderofscribes
@orderofscribes 8 ай бұрын
I would’ve loved to see that the reason thor is disconnected from the world is because hes so focused on keeping his kingdom running. What he absorbs himself into isnt self pity or drink but into the guilt of not being able to protect his people, and his duty as king to do so. Keep him in a more morose mood more of the time, have him be depressed, but let him be stoic about it. Then when he’s around his friends some of his playfulness and goofynees comes out a bit more throughout the film. Imagine instead of one of the many gag scenes we got of thor being fat and depressed, that time was put into more meaningful scenes, like one between tony and thor talking about stepping away from the fight to protect something they cannot lose (tony’s daughter and thor’s kingdom). The two dont have a lot of dialogue in many of the movies anyways so this could have fleshed out their relationship a bit more, and enriched both of their character arcs.
@artars94
@artars94 4 жыл бұрын
lets be honest : the only reason they nerfed Thor, is to let their Captain Feminist to 'save the day" against Thanos with Healthy Thor there would be nothing for Brick Danvers to do in this movie,except for working as an intergalactic Taxi for Iron Man
@rayharvey1330
@rayharvey1330 4 жыл бұрын
I bet they'll have THOR in a corner wearing panties in THOR 4...
@orarinnsnorrason4614
@orarinnsnorrason4614 4 жыл бұрын
Just to narrow minded to think of a better way to include her and also keep the characters consistent.
@tiitto167
@tiitto167 4 жыл бұрын
That was a funny line, intergalactic taxi for iron man. it's funny because it's true.
@connermitchell1663
@connermitchell1663 4 жыл бұрын
What's funny is Thor couldve easily gone and saved Stark, and that would act as a character moment between two og avengers but noooo
@rayharvey1330
@rayharvey1330 4 жыл бұрын
@@connermitchell1663 The supposed most powerful character had the infinity gauntlet right in her hands...Why didn't she put it on and do the snap???
@martinverner7390
@martinverner7390 2 жыл бұрын
Thor being pissed and taking his rage on a reluctant and smarter hulk would have been pretty cool to see..
@cyniclander896
@cyniclander896 4 жыл бұрын
Calling it now: Thor will come back suddenly Jacked with a 1 line explanation so that marvel can skip through his transformation.
@thnzxc
@thnzxc 4 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@arthursantel5180
@arthursantel5180 4 жыл бұрын
or he'll become ms. thor....
@Recken1
@Recken1 4 жыл бұрын
or they will ignore it like they did with that all female ghostbusters farce of a movie.
@GhostLink92
@GhostLink92 4 жыл бұрын
He should've gone back to god-bod Thor when he summoned both of his weapons in the final battle.
@wudpeckr4951
@wudpeckr4951 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching endgame in 2019 and the only thing running through my head when I saw Thor was “Why’d they have to do him like that”
@termigasts5227
@termigasts5227 4 жыл бұрын
Your version even makes handing the reins to Valkyrie make sense, as she is very warlike and would be an obvious second in command to Thor ruling his much more militaristic people. Politics aside, she is the only other Asgardian we know of that survived that has extensive military experience. She could even have begun rebuilding her old unit, breeding new pegasi and training the female Asgardians to become warriors in their own right. Maybe they could even have Wakanda help out with rebuilding and fortifying New Asgard, with technological trade being the primary reason for the alliance. That in itself could have opened a whole new movie on it's own. 10/10 Drinker, a well thought out repair of Thor. Maybe fix Hulk next? Although considering how much of a pussy Mark Ruffalo has become...
@spasjt
@spasjt 4 жыл бұрын
@Lazy Lajdak Yeah, I was pissed with how quickly the warriors three were absentmindedly killed off in Ragnarok. They barely did anything and had no screen time before they were sniped.
@spasjt
@spasjt 4 жыл бұрын
@Lazy Lajdak Her character just disappeared. What happened to her and then the warriors three made me dread what they had planned for Thor in Endgame.
@aspiringnormie9499
@aspiringnormie9499 4 жыл бұрын
Lady sif 2020
@JP-ww5vz
@JP-ww5vz 4 жыл бұрын
Movie Valkyrie is possibly the worst Asgardian you could possibly hand the reins to even if you disregard how annoying her character is. He really should've handed it over to Sif
@briang3598
@briang3598 4 жыл бұрын
Would've made sense to have Siph as his queen, someone who could be a less hostile counterbalance to the impulses that (improved-)Thor developed in the time skip.
@mughhungus8895
@mughhungus8895 4 жыл бұрын
Your version makes too much sense. The director(s) were handed a directive saying "make Thor a neck beard joke, so we can have more diversity"...
@bentaylor4705
@bentaylor4705 2 жыл бұрын
"Slow burn stupidity" is now a part of my vocabulary, thank you! Lot of that going on in my moviegoing experience.
@max0812
@max0812 4 жыл бұрын
After the initial laugh wore off, I didn’t like what was done to Thor. I envisioned Thor sitting on his throne, like Conan at the end of ‘Conan the Destroyer’ troubled and thoughtful.
@Dragons_Novel
@Dragons_Novel 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I passed on this movie, personally ending the series at Infinity Wars. It had an ending I'm satisfied with.
@DavidAnderson-vg8uz
@DavidAnderson-vg8uz 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine, if I could just not acknowledge any Terminator film after Judgement Day, or numerous other beloved film *gag ....hhhhrrmmmggmmmm.... "franchises", *cough. I've done it with others ok.
@morningstar9233
@morningstar9233 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same about Star Wars." Return of the Jedi " is a good ending, leave it at that.
@Dragons_Novel
@Dragons_Novel 4 жыл бұрын
@@morningstar9233, I feel the same: Return of the Jedi was a good ending. That's where the series end for me, too.
@jonathanbradley4896
@jonathanbradley4896 3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see someone else who hates what they did to Thor in Endgame. Everyone was laughing and shaking their pom poms at Fat Thor, saying it was "great character development" somehow, when in reality it shit all over his character growth from every previous film up to that point.
@renatafnedab3003
@renatafnedab3003 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with him becoming fat Thor. But…. The jokes amd cracks on him and no good story or redemption throughout his story in this movie and downgrades all through are what killed it for me. Yess💯 he had Lost everyone he personally loved, he failed to keep his people alive, he couldn’t protect the others under his watch, he lost the battle by not aiming fir the head, he personally was Right There when Thanos snapped his finger and obliterated half of the universe, he finally got the chance to go do the head and there was no win after that. Thanos already had done the damage and nothing was going to change for them afterward. So. Yes he should be fat. But the avengers making pathetic jokes was just awful amd pathetically terrible. Ijs 💯
@johnivantaro6684
@johnivantaro6684 4 жыл бұрын
Odin: "You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy!" It's scary how Loki, in terms of personality, is basically Thor if that ego was never humbled.
@Wolffman109
@Wolffman109 Жыл бұрын
I dunno if you're still doing this series, but I'd love to see you do some videos fixing The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Bucky, Sam, Sharon, etc.
@Ironcabbit
@Ironcabbit 4 жыл бұрын
The self-pity angle would have been much more in line with Tony Stark’s character arch.
@wRAAh
@wRAAh 2 жыл бұрын
From the get-go, you set yourself a higher standard for fixing characters than those who carelessly ruin them. Goo ewey neuy.
@justinboggin9086
@justinboggin9086 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot on important story point the writers were obviously going for. The hyper oppressive cis white hetero male must be completely embarrassed and turned into a complete joke before giving the reins of power to a diverse female.
@edenmckinley3472
@edenmckinley3472 2 жыл бұрын
Love the re-write. A hardened Thor sounds terrifying, but the story is way more engaging. I also think you got extra drunk for this one just to spite the movie writers. Slow burn stupidity is a phrase I will have to incorporate into my everyday vocabulary.
@nobody7204
@nobody7204 8 ай бұрын
Fat Thor is a calm and reasonable person
@ch4osaeternum74
@ch4osaeternum74 4 жыл бұрын
I was pissed with what they did with Thor. Ur fixes are spot on. IMO
@odin1185
@odin1185 4 жыл бұрын
Disney had to destroy the image of the powerful man so the powerful wahmen can stand out more.
@kellymcmahon6326
@kellymcmahon6326 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Also the producers / directors said that they had to tone down the Hulk and Thor because if Hulk and Thor were at their full power / full potential then there wouldn't be a movie. Same thing with Captain Marvel only being in the movie for a few minutes and Scarlett Widow's power toned down. Look at what they did with Doctor Strange. He was messing around with the water instead of actually fighting during the end of Endgame. Ridiculous. But what the directors said kind of makes sense. If all the Avengers were all at their full power; there would no movie. Thanos wouldn't stand a chance without the Infinity Gauntlet and all of the stones.
@kailryu
@kailryu 4 жыл бұрын
@@kellymcmahon6326 I disagree, that's pretty lazy excusing of them not thinking out a better way to use the characters and underdeveloping or underusing the Black Order. Ebony Maw vs Dr Strange on the battlefield was a rematch I would have loved to see, same with Hulk vs Cull Obsidian, but they squash Cull in another weak joke moment and we never even see what happens to Ebony Maw. The one thing I liked about having to suffer Carol turning up was that it showed her for being utterly thick in a battle, she's so overconfident of her unearned power level that she was sucker punched by a tactical move on Thanos' part.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
@Deep Kumar B S Technically, I think she did have an Airforce rank, but to be real, she's kinda boring. Overwhelming power can only be made interesting with good character writing, which she lacks.
@cromcccxvi3787
@cromcccxvi3787 Жыл бұрын
A Scene with Militant Totalitarian Thor meeting his mother where he breaks down would have been awesome.........
@dtheo47
@dtheo47 4 жыл бұрын
The literally withstood the force of a Star, Endurance is actually one of his strongest suits... To think he leaves the kingdom to a former drunk, in the form of Valkyrie...
@jothecocopop
@jothecocopop 4 жыл бұрын
Please do Hulk next. He, alongside Thor, were the characters that had the least satisfying conclusions in Endgame, in my opinion.
@everquestfan
@everquestfan 4 жыл бұрын
They trashed the Hulk and Thor that whole movie, creating a convenient vacuum for their agenda heroes to step into.
@vla1ne
@vla1ne 4 жыл бұрын
They had no choice. Look at thpr and hulk in movies prior. They were absolute monsters. The the two of them together would have ended the movie in half the time. Hulk being afraid to fight makes no sense, when he has literally fought gods in this same timeline and thor throwing out 10 years of development from just one loss, when he had literally just killed thanos, is confusing, as he should already understand that you can't save everyone, but doing your damndest still counts for something. Mcu had an amazing story, but they shot several people aside for no reason other than having them at full power would have seen that whole movie end differently.
@vla1ne
@vla1ne 4 жыл бұрын
@Laurence Leiter gonna have to disagree there. he may not have been the most "loved" character, but he was damn sure respected. in fact, thor 2 was so hated, *because* thor 1 was so much better as a whole.
@vla1ne
@vla1ne 4 жыл бұрын
@Laurence Leiter stop overreacting my guy. Thor 1 was slow, but emby no means as bad as you seem to feel it is. Thor 2? Absolute trash and you'll get no argument from me there, but thor 1 was still a solid movie.
@spiral83
@spiral83 3 жыл бұрын
@@vla1ne just one loss is saying a lot, he lost half his people, not just his brother. but i think drinker's version is a lot better tbh
@vla1ne
@vla1ne 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiral83 yeah, he did lose a *lot* with that one loss, but that wouldn't mean that he deteriorated to the position he was in in ragnarock. He still had people to look after, and a job to do, depressed? Sure, but he had lost a lot prior to endgame, and he made himself stronger both mentally and physically to match. Him not working day and night to find and kill/reverse thanos' actions, didn't make much sense in the context of his mcu personality.
@reisekeller6859
@reisekeller6859 4 жыл бұрын
It's called a character assassination! Funny, how the "Nordic" heritage is the victim of such butchery!
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 4 жыл бұрын
Weird. It's almost like there's some sort of common thread in all of these movies. Better stop noticing things or we'll get the thought police sicced on us.....
@GreyDeathVaccine
@GreyDeathVaccine 4 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 thoughtcrime detected!
@Teyism
@Teyism 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of him breaking down from hulk saying thanos name imagine how cool it would’ve been if instead he was mad his eyes lit up with lightning and he says dont say that name in a deep and intimidating voice
@ThunderBow98
@ThunderBow98 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, Drinker was sober
@alpinewolf7751
@alpinewolf7751 4 жыл бұрын
1961?
@JD-ul8qu
@JD-ul8qu 2 жыл бұрын
Your “The Drinker Fixes” vids are top class creative writing lessons. Thank you! I’ve learned more from these than the stupid writing classes in college.
@colorin81colorado
@colorin81colorado 3 жыл бұрын
July 2021 and I have returned after 5months to re-watch this video! I first subscribed to your channel on the strength of this video but I had forgotten how right you were! Thank you drinker, just like good wine your video has aged very well indeed!
@andrewchilds8886
@andrewchilds8886 2 жыл бұрын
An idea that could add to his story. Thor has lost everything, his hammer, his family, his home, and his kingdom. The armies of earth never fought thanos, they actively hindered the avengers with the accords from civil war. Have Thor create a country on a frozen island. Have the entire island be surrounded by an unending storm. Have arcs of lightning decimate anything which comes anywhere close and the avengers need to struggle to find a method to enter where you find a brutal society based off of the warriors of Valhalla. Every warrior preparing to fight and die in a final war. Thor is training an army and is preparing for his own potential demise from jormungander. The wall of storm is brought down when he is told there is hope. He agrees to fight alongside the avengers on the premise that after thanos is undone, he can use the infinity gauntlet to bring back Asgard. The thing is that he doesn’t plan to just stop at Asgard. He aims for bringing back EVERYTHING he has lost because if everyone else can have their reward and their happy endings, why shouldn’t he. This we have a Thor who is working with the avengers based on revenge but he won’t just give up the stones after the fight and his desperation will make him far more dangerous. We end seeing him raise everyone from asgard. An interesting possibility would be that it has complications. His sister hela gains rulership of the dead, his family is raised without memories of him, etc. basically you have a new arc of Thor finally regaining everything that he lost but it not being how he wanted would.
@PaceBreaker
@PaceBreaker 4 жыл бұрын
I'll open with the fact that I still haven't seen Endgame yet but I know the plot. Thank you for actually remembering what happened to the character and his arc and growth up until Endgame. That new version sounds leagues better and fits that arc. This is the thing about long-running stories with varying writers, internal consistency. I'm still stumped how he just ups and gives Valkyrie the title. As another comment mentioned, he gives up being the ruler because he was a drunken loser unfit to rule to someone else who was also a drunken loser who ran away after losing her friends in a major battle as well. How is she more fit to rule than he is? It all just sounds like they gave up and changed characters to fit the story they wanted to tell as well as set up the state of things going forward.
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. You what????
@robertfitzgerald3118
@robertfitzgerald3118 4 жыл бұрын
Before he leaves, he takes storm breaker and beheads Valkyrie so we never have to see Tessa Thompson ever again in the MCU.
@renevilandt8300
@renevilandt8300 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely way better Thor with your version. One thing I had hoped for in Infinity War, is the fight against Thanos, where instead of Thor throwing the Axe right at Thanos, who for unknown reasons can't stop it with a fully powered gauntlet, I wanted a brutal fight like Hulk and Thanos, where Thanos end up dodging Thor's axe, grabing Thor by his neck or something, and starting to give a snark reply about being better and smarter than Thor, only then to have the Axe return to Thor brying itself deep into his back. Then from that Point things happens like before. It would have been a minute longer, but way more powerful and satisfying. Or it might just be me.
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