Avengers: Endgame - A flawed but satisfying end of an era

[@cesar._.m]

Anyone else feel Nebula was a more compelling female protagonist than Captain Marvel

[@someguy4405]

tomato And she’s almost a literal robot as opposed to just having the acting skill of one.

[@acvmnt2656]

Nebula was actually pretty interesting a character and fun to watch. Captain marvel is a really cool concept and she has a cool entrance scene near the end, that's where it ends for me.

[@Spoonfoon]

I genuinely expected Nebula to deal the killing blow. Her entire arc revolves around her hatred of her father.

[@johnyates1376]

I was hyped for captain marvel, and had no issue with her being a woman. It was Brie Larsons attitude that ruined it for me. Captain marvel is the worst female character in the MCU

[@ElValuador]

John Yates Agreed, although see barely edges out black widow 😉

[@production2353]

For anyone who missed the nuance, Nebula's arc comes full circle at the very start of the movie playing table-top football with Stark. She wins at something. For the first time in her life. And what's more is congratulated for it. It's a beautiful moment.

[@act2wasstronger182]

And she's not even the main character 😂

[@duphasdan]

Never thought of that part till now. For me, the bugging question is what Captain America was like when he eventually meets the Red Skull while returning the Soul Stone.

[@production2353]

@@duphasdan Red Skull: I can do this all day... every day

[@duphasdan]

@Rutger Ockhorst He is the keeper of the thing and would remain there till the stone returns.

[@yup486]

Great observation. A great little character moment, and with the scale of the movie, I like the fact they still took the time to have little moments like that.

[@Sweeptheleg83]

THANK GOD it was Tony that delivered the death blow and not captain marvel. It always deserved to be Tony.

Can you imagine? "I. Am. Inevitable." "And I...am...WOMAN!"

[@606danco]

It should be drax thanos killed his family Tony stole his revenge fucking Tony he even stole Spider-Man enemy mysterio who is now a angry Tony wannabe Spider-Man is Tony's bitch screw stark

[@Undaglibenglaubengloben]

On the other hand, would it have been Brie she could be dead now

[@Hungabrigoo]

If it was D&D writing it it would have been Marvel for sure.

[@noneofyourbusiness4294]

@@Undaglibenglaubengloben as if. Her origin movie showed that she's vastly overpowered. In case of doubt her ovaries would protect her from damage. All jokes aside, she got hit pretty hard by the nerfhammer in Endgame, which is a good thing. People like heroes that have weakpoints

[@neildennis7294]

The smartest part of this film is keeping Captain Marvel shipped off to another part of the galaxy for most of it.

[@jkknight9209]

Not enough, unfortunately. Pissed me off. They could have finished Cap and Bucky off in a classic fashion that echoed down the ages and did justice to ten years of films. Now I'm just pretending that shit didn't exist.

[@1blukirk]

Or hulk not coming out 🙄🙄🙄 cause that would never happen in the comics

[@LucianDevine]

Yup, she basically did nothing except take down Thanos' ship and then get bitch-slapped into oblivion by Thanos with the power stone, both of which could and should have been done by different characters. She's in so little of the movie, but is still somehow the worst part of it. I don't like the time travel logic they use, but I still hate Captain Marvel more. They tried to ram her down our throats so damn much leading up to Endgame...

[@ArsxnIV]

In the conclusion, I would have loved for Thanos to get a hold of the space stone. Then, instead of going straight for the gauntlet, Captain Marvel charges at him, ready to fly straight through his body. Then, with a wave of his hand, Thanos opens a portal right in front of him. Captain Marvel flies through accidentally and she's teleported to a galaxy on the other side of the universe. This way, she’d have about 2 minutes of screen time.

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

I personally am a fan of a digitalized Brie Larson decimating Thanos's entire fleet by t-posing her way through spacetime. Her entire existence makes the entire movie meaningless, and therefore I know that she is empowered.

[@marcodetter5782]

The Face of Hemsworth when he is forced to say:"I like this one." Had a good lough.

[@Manweor]

This hate for a character just because she doesn't follow the hero tropes is ridiculous. She will evolve into a real character in time. And thanos beating her may be the first step to a great character.

[@marcodetter5782]

@@Manweor its not hate of a character. I hate Brie Larson the whole annoying person.

[@Manweor]

@@marcodetter5782 the other actors seem to be good friends with her, I would trust more them than a few distorted words said in random movie conferences when trying to create hype

[@Kiluei]

@@Manweor Which also was mostly sarcasm and them joking around together, taken out of context by KZbinrs with too much time on their hands to feed a certain narrative because it delivers them views with outraged people.

[@wmspoccha]

I still dont get it why people hate Brie so much? She's kinda cute i think...

[@kuribayashi84]

For me, "Endgame" is to "Infinity War" what "Return of the Jedi" was to "Empire strikes back": A somewhat flawed but still satisfying followup/conclusion.

[@thisisfyne]

Very well said

[@shaunhumphreys6714]

good analogy.

[@Hashbrown1682]

You know what, You're right

[@julianmarquez4747]

shit, you're right

[@johnnybensonitis7853]

Oooh that's a good one and I think you were the first and only person to ever make that comparison.

[@PrestonGarvey-]

Russo Brother: You need to see Capt. Marvel before Endgame of youll be lost. Me: *So that was a fucking lie...*

[@derekhofstetler3998]

But it's good that that was a lie.

[@crazynachos4230]

You would be more lost if you hadn't watched ant man and the wasp than that movie

[@theadoshiagoings878]

I haven’t seen either movie (and don’t plan to) and Endgame wasn’t hard to follow after a Infinity War

[@uglifak]

@@theadoshiagoings878 Whats the reason for not wanting to watch the Ant Man ? No hard feelings im just curious.

[@theadoshiagoings878]

Mostly due to Marvel fatigue lol

[@keniel-prime6214]

The sidekick known as War Machine had more emotion than a full fledged superhero that had her own film.

[@BlackLivesMatter23]

I love Rhodes

[@MissHardmode]

Why would you expect every single female character to be an emotional mess? Iron man wasnt and he was applauded for it called the man for being a cocky playbot. Captain Marvel is a fraction of that and everyone hates her.... hypocrite much?

[@keniel-prime6214]

@@MissHardmode it...was a joke.

[@uwinduadikaram2210]

@@MissHardmode we don't want her to be an emotional mess. It's about showing emotions. you know like when someone cares about something a lot they show emotion. she's just an overpowered mary sue and has the charisma of a plank of wood. edit: and has a very shitty attitude as a person.

[@hanburgundy4317]

"Side... kick... THIS!!!"

[@bifrost1377]

That picture of Cap standing alone in front of Thanos and his whole army, is my favorite shot in any movie ever. That picture tells you everything you could ever ask about the character of Cap.

[@terrylandess6072]

The one that stays with me is Hawkeye and Widow, flying through space - "We're a long way from Budapest". You can see into that exchange, with the emotions on their faces, and feel something very special between those two.

[@normadgarmez7026]

That CA is willing to die trying than surrender ing to Thanos and his army.

[@jebshook6939]

@Kryptoskillet he's still a single man against a world breaking army man

[@molomomo3743]

Well, it didn't worke for me at all. In fact i hated it! maybe because i hate America 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@neilrobinson4494]

I've never really gotten that type of attitude, to me that (standing even when alone) is what I expect from anyone who calls themselves a superhero. If you can't/won't stand alone you don't deserve the title. Caps character is he does whatever he feels is right, regardless of the stupidity, selfishness, legality or recklessness of the idea. Repeatedly trying to get into the army despite the fact he would be a complete detriment to his fellow soldiers Going AWOL to rescue Barnes in 1940's, what would have happened if he and/or H. Stark were captured alive? Dumping all the SHIELD data onto the internet (great job idiot, shame about all those real agents and their families that got killed over it though huh?) Everything he did in Civil war Abandoning Barnes (after everything he did in civil war) in 2021 to go back in time to bang Peggy (a woman he barely knew)

[@kaidi223]

I'm pissed that Hulk didn't get to smash in the final battle I understand why but still wanted to see him hulk out at the end.

[@Jay-sl9jo]

We saw him tap a taxi and throw a bench pretty far tho

[@zahhari3170]

Seriously. They destroyed one of the most powerful characters in the MCU. When they were trapped at the end was a great time for Bruce to be like alright Hulk, we need you buddy. He Hulks out, heals that damage, and starts kicking the shit out of everything world breaker style. But no, we have this.

[@steflinga]

@@zahhari3170 i agree plus it would've been like that panel from secret wars where hulk holds up a mountain to save everyone

[@Manweor]

@@zahhari3170 I think you are way off: the merging of hulk and banner saves everyone: power and intellect to use the stones. But it clearly lost Hulk's real primal power. He says he accepted hulk but he didn't, he just became half-hulk. I bet at some point, in some last movie, he will go back to two separate entities, but really symbiotic. True hulk and true banner working together. But this hulk could not heal and smash. Yeah, he still can fight, but he had already done his part.

[@Manweor]

@@kevinfry1850 If you are disappointed because of something that is outside the movies IMHO there is something wrong. Banner suppressed Hulk even more than usual and he pays for it, that is the whole point. THAT is character evolution. And remember that Ruffalo is still on board, so I expect the old Hulk to re-emerge stronger and more primal than ever. In this movie Banner was the important character. And yes, maybe one more fighting scene at the end would have been best. But it is totally unnecessary for the character and the plot. Maybe we'll get him in the extended cut.

[@racyagentmac]

Nebula helping Tony sit on the chair was more heroic than anything captain marvel did👍

[@craftpaint1644]

We got to see a tender, gentler Nebula. She must have gotten the robot hots watching Tony work on the ship.

[@kummakummakummakummakummac8606]

That haircut Captain Marvel got was pretty heroic.

[@barrywhittingham6154]

Making Black Widow's sandwich was more heroic than anything Captain Marvel did.

[@treyriver5676]

as much a Capt Marvel is a card board cut out.. remember she is a soldier not a hero.. and more than that a programmed one (I doubt all the programming just vanished) thus ends my defense of the character...

[@lucaspoon4202]

@@treyriver5676 Ur not wrong and that is very true... Still doesnt change that she was poorly written. Better writing can be done for soldier characters who've had their minds messed with and reprogrammed as shown by Bucky.

[@afropunkx]

I look back at Endgame and wish the MCU ended there. It makes me look at other media that ended ‘too soon’ and makes me realise that sometimes things need to end.

[@fireprophetproductions4967]

this comment needs about sixty thousand more likes

[@craigharrell7144]

I think they should've waited at least 3 years to start the next phase by introducing The Fantastic Four and the X-men.

[@jamescarr1265]

yeah 🥹 thanks for the memories Marvel

[@robbwillz]

Too many IPs and money to be made

[@krisscheuch8151]

Why didn't Nebula turn off her WIFI? She should have known better.

[@clearlywrong6520]

She didn't have Incognito mode installed? Or some VPN?

[@JefAlanLong]

Always use airplane mode when time travelling, that’s basic training stuff.

[@DandA604]

This. I actually nashed my teeth in the theatre when this came into play. My wife asked me, as the credits rolled, why I ground my teeth mid-film. I said, Nebula, Thanos, secret spycam lady etc. She went, yes, that was pretty terrible.

[@6Churches]

She should show what other benefits come to interstellar neural networks.... like she should constantly be learning things.... but no

[@dalair]

How would she know that would happen? IT is interstellar time travel. A person (character) can't think of everything. This isn't possible, so it actually makes sense.

[@LoganAlbertsChannel]

I loved that when Tony was surrounded by his makeshift family at the end, they were all protected by armor he built for them. Edit: wow, thanks

[@lln7065]

Just noticed that. Everyone around him was wearing his armor

[@LoganAlbertsChannel]

@@lln7065 I thought it was so sweet

[@shaycormaic5365]

Didn't notice that

[@AyoBurbs]

Rhodie stole it!! And the military upgraded it. But yes, Tony's armor nonetheless and it's a beautiful with this in mind

[@AyoBurbs]

Wait, I was wrong. That isn't the same armor lol

[@shaecouture7480]

Tony's conversation with his Dad is what helped him make the final sacrifice. Not just dying but giving up the life with his family etc. I cant remember the exact line but essentially Howard says he hopes his son can do what he never could, put the greater good over his self interest.

[@sentjojo]

Not sure why so many people didn't like that scene. I felt like it was the last bit of character dev that Tony needed. I enjoyed it

[@MoneyMotivation360]

Thanks for pointing that out

[@nomadscheap-n-nerdy9901]

I think he said the opposite saying he hoped tony wouldn’t be like him, who put his self interest first and not his family because he wasn’t there for tony( built tony a friend) referring to other comics where tony speaks to his father. I thought it was referring to the slice of life, more a point for captain than for tony who always stated he would do whatever it cost. (Intro to endgame is him saying as much to pepper) even his post death message all indicated that and he recorded it before the time travel.

[@Manweor]

@@nomadscheap-n-nerdy9901 Nope, Howard states clearly that he had been selfish and rarely put others before him. I'm not sure that actually holds when you see him in Cap 1 or even Iron Man 2, but I guess he felt guilty for doing all this for his own success/fame or something like that (not explained). Anyway in that scene he could not know that he would not be there that much for Tony because Tony was not born yet.

[@silverscorpio24]

I liked it because before, Tony always had animosity towards his dad (in Civil War he cared more about his mother getting killed than his father). But that scene with his dad developed Tony and humanized Howard to Tony and gave him a new perspective and proper closure.

[@k3nny111]

I loved how in the end Aria didn't show up out of nowhere to stab Thanos.

[@youtubedude3422]

Bran: Tony...you're a good man

[@patrickkilduff4355]

...and a bunch of crows were watching the battle and everyone's like 'what's with all the crows??' Cut to Bran watching the Endgame battle while not helping in the Great War.

[@xaviersmoke9695]

Arya?

[@k3nny111]

@@xaviersmoke9695 Who cares?

[@margarethmichelina5146]

At least this Stark deserved it

[@Indubidably0]

"Captain Marvel doesn't get to ruin it." That's all I wanted to know. Thanks for that lol

[@johndustoncpa5302]

Oh thank Stan Lee

[@JefAlanLong]

She really tries to. Thank the Russos, it was the only way. It also establishes a good way to manage her over-powered nature in future ‘I’m needed on the other side of space! I’ll be back to deus ex machina the final battle in the nick of time, see you then’

[@welovepopculture5821]

She does have that scene towards the end that is pure feminazi propaganda. It's just a short moment, but it stands out like a sore thumb

[@JefAlanLong]

We Love Pop Culture it’s really not a scene, it’s just a single shot. But yep it does make a sensible fan laugh, sigh, cringe and throw up a little all at the same time. Infinity war had a similar shot, they just cranked it to eleven for this one.

[@welovepopculture5821]

@@JefAlanLong Yes, maybe calling it a scene was too much. But it was the most pathetic moment in the entire MCU. Besides the fact that political propaganda in general (and feminist brainwashing in particular) should be left out of movies, there's the fact that, as the video pointed, it makes no sense at all that all the females just happened to be right there at that moment. At least they didn't show the males drinking beer and watching sports while the women did all the hard work LOL

[@pismodude2]

The poor writing of women in that scene is simultaneously sexist (no time to write female roles well, huh?) and at the same time, it's political pandering to women. Basically they created the worst of both worlds. Trying to come up with explanations, this is what I got: Scarlet Witch: "I came back from being dusted; to me, I just saw the love of my life die. I really want to find and kill Thanos for that. I almost already finished him off by myself. And now the ship's cannons are offline, so I really could finish him. But instead, I'm going to back up Captain Marvel, who I don't know, even though she seems to need no help." Mantis: "I'm also back, and I'm the most recent Guardian of the Galaxy. I haven't got much fighting ability, I use empath abilities, like when I read emotions, or help calm people so they can sleep. Now, instead of fighting with people who I know, I am going to run off alone, with the fighting strength of an average person, to back up Captain Marvel, an alien I don't know." Wasp: "I just came back to life, haven't even met Doctor Strange before, and don't know what Infinity Stones are. For some reason I flew through one of these portals after Strange or one of his underlings told me to, onto a battlefield. Then, instead of staying near Ant Man, my partner, I've decided to hunt down the most powerful woman on the battlefield to back her up instead of people who really do need help." Valkyrie: "We just doubled the remaining Asgardian population with the reverse snap, so I came to keep it that way! Now, instead of actually fighting with Thor or my other fellow Asgardians, I decided to find Captain Marvel and provide absolutely unnecessary aid while people I actually have close relationships with might be dying and need me." Shuri: "I'm the Wakandan technology expert, basically on the same level as Tony Stark but without battle armor. I'm going to leave all my people behind to back up Captain Marvel, someone who I barely know, even though I was basically their queen for the past five years and they're the most likely people to die in battle without help." Okoye: "I'm acting as Shuri's personal bodyguard. I am literally the only person with an excuse to be in this scene."

[@drakebentley1272]

Lmao great job

[@dantedrowson2511]

That was the most enlightening comment Ice read in a long time and absolutly nails it. I agree, I dont think the "womens lineup" was necessary or important but rather silly and out of place in light of how much was really really at stake in that apocalyptic moment.

[@dannypalin9583]

It's amazing how the moment can fall flat on its face the moment people start pointing out things like this.

[@alexrennison8070]

They don't back up Captain Marvel because she's a woman, it's because she's in possession of the Infinity Stones, their only chance at achieving their objective. Yeah, it's maybe fan-service & certainly a bit pandery to Psycho-Lefty identity nonsense, but it's not mean-spirited or central in any way. The way I see it is as a bit of fun.

[@DAEDAEANT]

@@alexrennison8070 I think of it is a cool looking bit of useless pandering y'know

[@Acesahn]

Black Widow and Scarlet Johanson look 3000x better as characters and people when compared to Captain Marvel and Brie. What a horrible trade.

[@tomforsythe7024]

I love Black Widow 3000.

[@gorkskoal9315]

sush! you're not aloud to have simple prefrences! how dare you :P

[@Acesahn]

@@tomforsythe7024 She was a sexy, strong "One of the guys" type gal. The only likeable female in the entire MCU... I dont think her loss has been realized yet by most. Scarlet Witch, Kitty Paw girl and Brie Larson arent going to have that same chemistry with the gang.

[@Acesahn]

@Mark Mitchell True, thats why she is better set for doing things like gathering intel, planning and leadership. She does alot of those things too.

[@Acesahn]

@Mark Mitchell But hey! Thats better then Captain America. She makes the old cast the ones unable to meaningfully contribute lol. "Oh... you CANT just fly straight through a dreadnought ship in space?"

[@joelvannatta3266]

About Thor, I think the movie did a good job at having each hero cope with their loss in different ways. Cap works to help others recover. Black Widow distracts herself with work. Hawkeye seeks vengeance. Hulk/Banner finds true peace for the first time. Stark ends his billionaire playboy antics and settles down to start a family. But Thor takes it the hardest, as he has the greatest sense of guilt, dooming half the universe to death due to a moment of hubris; he becomes a recluse, hiding in his little home playing video games rather than learning to live in the world he shares responsibility in creating. It's only after a heart-to-heart with his mother that he is finally able to cope with this and learn to function in society again. It's played for laughs, yes, but Thor's predicament is easily the most heartbreaking, and he has the strongest character arc in the film learning how to finally cope with his failure.

[@saisameer8771]

Sure, but Thor in this movie feels less like a broken man ridden with guilt for not being able to stop millions of deaths despite having the power to do so and more like a guy who flunked college and has given up on life ever since.

[@simonbright2975]

@@saisameer8771 Idk. When he wasn't pretending to be funny and all that, the depth of sadness and darkness in him was very potent, especially in his interactions with others. I think they did just the right amount to flesh him out.

[@jahinparvez316]

@@saisameer8771 I thought they did very well with Thor. In the beginning of Endgame, it very much felt like a guy ridden with guilt. But remember the rest of the movie is 5 years later, so at that point, that is how he's been coping with everything he's lost (including his family) after all that time.

[@donutt376]

@@simonbright2975 yea, when hulk said thanos, we could see thor's inner pain .

[@jerboymustdie7689]

He had it the roughest. Let's go back to Ragnarok. His father dies, his hammer breaks, his evil sister kills his friends The Warriors Three, wipes out Asgard's army, he loses an eye and loses Asgard to a rampaging giant. He manages to escape and saves somebody his people only to meet Thanos in space and gets a number of them killed, including Heimdall. Then, Loki gets killed. He goes through a lot of trouble to forge a new weapon. He gets a chance, throws his axe and succeeds where his teammates fail but victory is snatched from his hands because of a moment of hubris. He gets a second chance and properly kills him by going for the head but about a month too late. That he doesn't become a drug addict or suicidal is a feat.

[@mikomido20]

the "passing the torch" is a bit far fetched. nothing will ever fill the shoes of the original Marvel heroes. I predict a grueling future, where the marvel franchise will get mercilessly milked tp a point where its thinner than water. I loved endgame, and most of all. I loved that brie larson had pretty much no screen time in it.

[@jonathanw1019]

Yeah, I don't see how they can keep expecting big returns on secondary characters unless the start getting their budgets down into the 100 million dollar range.

[@hosoiarchives4858]

Yes it's pretty much over.

[@sentjojo]

I think they can still have great one off movies for certain characters. Like spiderman should be good, X-Men could be good, black panther 2 could be good. I just don't think the big overarching story will be as compelling

[@lonniecraig5186]

@@sentjojo Good point. We have had a massive story arc (which I believe was masterfully done) in which the final villain wanted to wipe out half of life in the universe (and actually did so!). Unless the next villain wanted to destroy the ENTIRE universe, what is going to be the next terrible evil that all the heroes will have to face which will top that one? So for me, this pretty much ends the MCU. I am not at all a fan of the PC/SJW culture, don't get me wrong, and I strongly suspect it will have a detrimental effect in the end, if it hasn't already. But this story was so good, the characters overall were so well-done, the BBEG so well written (Thanos), that I don't care to see another one. It would be like a group of fans writing a sequel of novels to The Lord of the Rings. The original (and the Hobbit) were so good that I could not care less what happens in Middle Earth after the passing of Sauron and the breaking up of the Fellowship. And to follow up on that analogy, the only great evil authors of such a trilogy could come up with would be if Melkor actually escaped the Void and wanted to wreak havoc.

[@ajsouza3720]

@Zaber Endgame is the end of not just the MCU but for superheroes as a cultural phenomena. Every single MCU movie after Endgame will loose more and more revenue and profit. The series shall slowly loos relevance and just disappear. The stories will get worse and the diversity/inclusion/sjws will get more and more obvious and in your face. You think that shit with all the females in Endgame was cringey? In 10 years you'll be begging for only that level of cringe.

[@hauntedhouse7827]

Let us not forget the biggest sacrifice made in the entire movie, the sacrifice of Ant mans first taco

[@prodfife]

truly the most tragic part

[@ManicPandaz]

Things Captain Marvel contributed to the movie. 1) A MacGuffin get out of jail free card. 2) An contrived aspirational photo op. 3) A form of catharsis via Thanos’s dismissive kick that sent her flying out of the rest of the movie. I liked #3...

[@donalddeluxe6407]

surfitlive wonder if he snuck in a 6-pack of Hennessy to see that happen

[@ManicPandaz]

@Darkness1984 Not good with reading comprehension eh? 1) Miss MacGuffin was Tony’s contrived get out of spaceship jail free card. Sure she blow up Thano’s space ship, meh, Scarlet Witch could of taken that down too. As for being overly obsessed with the genital size of strangers on the Internet... Have you spoken to a professional about that by chance?

[@samzonDx]

Aw yes!

[@ShinkuGouki]

Crazy how 1 plank of wood almost ruined 10 years of movies.

[@bpoole99251]

I remember people literally cheering during that scene! Plot twist, I started the cheering...

[@xGrandArcher]

They nerfed Thor out of the necessity. He become too OP character for the Universe. He could've swung gauntlet effortlessly, and single handedly end Thanos in final battle . Remember , he almost killed him when Thanos had stones . And now, when Thanos doesn't have them - Thor would've just obliterated him . And so they had to nerf him somehow

[@pilkers2]

People seem to forgot that in endgame thanos has a sword that could break vibranium and armour made of ERU metal I believe that’s its name

[@dannyboy2005]

@@pilkers2 and thanos had all of the stones including the power stone in Infinity war...and Thor still 1-shot him

[@pilkers2]

@@dannyboy2005 because Thor caught thanos off guard with a lightning strike and judging by the blast he fired at Thor he only used the mind stone to fire at him probably because he had just got it

[@pilkers2]

@Kryptoskillet but it wouldn’t make sense considering Thor had lost everything and he is responsible for trillions of deaths he was probably extremely depressed and had no motivation for anything he got ptsd from banner just mentioning thanos’s name despite Thor killing

[@Athiax.]

@@pilkers2 while he may have caught him off guard thanos didn't hit Thor with only the mind stone. If you paid attention at all it's fairly obvious each stone has a respective color and that color is shown when the stone is in use. The scene where Thor is shot at by thanos has a rainbow shot which insinuates that thanos is using the full gauntlet against Thor, he's just countering it with an axe that literally brings the bifrost forth without the bridge.

[@Oxnate]

Why the Avenger's series succeeded summed up in two lines finally answered in Endgame: "Everything special about you came out of a bottle." "You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you."

[@dominiqueodom3099]

The fact is,they've proven that over and over again throughout the films. It's the fact that they proved one more thing. "If we cant save the earth,we'll damn sure Avenge it"

[@charliefoxtrotsky4104]

maybe the second line....but the first was not an accurate statement at all.... it was completely wrong.

[@hanburgundy4317]

@@charliefoxtrotsky4104 How was it wrong? Steve Rodgers was useless - until he got the Super Soldier Serum. Sure, his heroism was his own trait, but without his super-powers, it all accounted for nothing. Whereas Tony BUILT the power he uses, Cap was GIVEN the power he uses. So, we can't blame Tony for calling out Cap the way he did while Cap was flexing on him.

[@captcrais101]

@@hanburgundy4317 Capt wasn’t useless!! He is the leader of the Avengers and he helps clear the Hydra out of Becky’s head. WTF! Capt used Thor’s Hammer!!

[@hanburgundy4317]

@@captcrais101 I didn't say Cap was useless lol I said Steve Rodgers was useless _until he got the Super Soldier Serum_ , and then I explained why. Come on, man.

[@metalwizard1969]

Correction: Ant-man shrunk himself when HQ was attacked.

[@harrylong2796]

@JX VX him and Thor were my favourites in this one (besides Tony stark because he's just the best actor in it lol)

[@Nemenis]

@@harrylong2796 good for you.

[@5amH45lam]

I liked the bit when Stark managed to overcome one of, if not the, greatest challenge sentient life anywhere in the universe will ever face by figuring out the near infinite complexities that make up time travel, at his kitchen table using a few old breakfast cereal cartons, some dried spaghetti and a bit of prit-stick.

[@DazraelArianos]

He unravels the secrets of shifting between universes. He does not create time travel. Only time travel in Marvel is Dr.Strange.

[@thedrno4901]

Duct Tape Devil cinematic or comic? Because if you include comics then a lot of characters but first to mind would be Bishop and Cable would love to talk to you, if you cinematic remind me when Strange time traveled?

[@thedrno4901]

Jean Deaux I hate there version of “time travel” it’s stupid to me, but until it’s invented one can’t say for sure complex, simple, alternate universe, flows one way like a river or more like a ocean, to me the movie broke its own rules if changing the past doesn’t alter the present then how did thanos even get the mind stone it was destroyed by scarlet witch and he rolled back time to before it was destroyed, sooo altered past changed present

[@DazraelArianos]

@@thedrno4901 I'm usually talking cinematic about Marvel. Bishop and Cable.... ick. Cable I admit to not knowing too well other than the utterly miserable Cable vs Firefist story for Deadpool 2. Bishop is a decent argument though I thought Bishop meeting Time was one of the least fan approved story lines. Bishop cements time as working a certain way and actually completely destroys the Endgame storyline. Strange literally wears the Time Stone giving us a definite view of how time can be manipulated within Marvel.

[@eke4146]

In a movie with a magical man that uses lightning to defeat his foes and a giant green guy, THIS, is surprising to you?????

[@MrCdnBeef]

Had a great time, for the most part. There were spots where I wanted to cheer. My awe of the such a spectacle kept me quiet and shoving popcorn in my mouth. Iron Man's sacrifice was heavy, but a welcome conclusion to his storyline. When the funeral ended and Tony's daughter was visiting with the family valet, the dam unexpectedly broke. "..what do you want for lunch?" "..cheeseburgers."

[@PoopaChallupa]

Did you just call Happy a valet?! If it were a fast and furious movie, he'd be family! 😅

[@abhay4147]

Pretty sure that Pepper still considers him as family

[@WilliamButtlicker]

Yeah I don't see that scene being appreciated much but it always makes me real melancholic when Happy asks her that.

[@jamescarr1265]

🥹🥹

[@flioink]

I knew they couldn't top Infinity War. I mean the movie is good because the bad guy won and that's different than the standard "villain of the week" formula.

[@shmeagol]

IW is the MCU’s Empire Strikes Back. Its already got cult status and will be remembered as the finest of the MCU.

[@pietropes1322]

Exactly...Thanos winning made it so different and so amazing.

[@Navarchil]

I found that one of the best traits of IW was how Thanos was a respectable character, while in Endgame he wasn't bad, but wasn't too far off from your standard "Villain of the Week".

[@intense79nick]

@The Jim Reaper™ Cap died? News to me.

[@jasonbrown4526]

Endgame would be good if it wasn't so slow and if Thanos actually had the amount of screentime that he had in Infinity War.

[@BlueStarr86]

It's been 2 years and the deaths of Tony and Nat still break my heart. The look on Clint's face when she fell was.... well, it's the face of a man who has known real loss. It's a fight where there are no winners. Even the survivor of it loses. The sheer testicular fortitude to write a movie wherein a man and a woman fight to sacrifice themselves is.... well... awe-inspiring to anyone with an ounce of sense and an understanding of the backdrop of the culture war.

[@martinacosta3821]

for me that one bothered me, i mean, is both good and bad, good for the emotional scene but bad since, you know, you kind up had to be a monster to hold ONE infinity stone, yet Tony holds all of them and able to use them, when he is a mere human

[@Mopsey]

Yeah, but you notice it's the f*cking chick who wins.

[@Mopsey]

@@martinacosta3821 the gauntlet, mate, the glove. He wasn't holding them in his palm.

[@martinacosta3821]

@@Mopsey so? It still takes a toll on you, you can see every time thanos added another one, so nop

[@Mopsey]

@@martinacosta3821 Well, RDJ's taken more drugs than the entire historical population of Cali combined, so he probably just felt like he'd dropped a few valium, tbh. No more questions needed. Take it from me, you spend enough years putting enough chemicals in you to kill an Army, a wee girly infinity stone gauntlet isn't gonna bother you.

[@Gdank72]

Howard the Duck was in the fight at the end - what a legend!

[@lilledrum]

What.....

[@cthulhutentacles4994]

@@lilledrum it’s true, next to Wasp

[@hydro.pl.27]

Lol Howard the detective.

[@joewoodland8635]

its nearly two years later and we still laugh about how i made my cousin laugh so hard he threw up in the theatre by going "brace for the girl power" about 5 seconds before the all female battle clip.

[@jkknight9209]

Oooooh. Ow. That would have made my viewing experience soooooo much better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kjfinch8866]

Haha yea and then you won the lottery and bought Disney right?

[@Oakshield2]

Nice!

[@ben6993]

And then everybody clapped

[@thebusybeanhomecafe4035]

How do you laugh so hard you throw up?

[@Slammy555]

I'm glad you gave a real review, I didn't trust all of the initial gushing reviews after the pay day for critics which was Captain Marvel. Thanks.

[@teebee5323]

gushing reviews should be totally ignored, this is a lame follow up to Infinity War and lame by any comparison to the better MCU movies.

[@JefAlanLong]

Tee Bee it’s not lame, it’s totally worth your $15 and three hours of your time. It’s very good. It’s just not perfect. I saw it 48 hours ago and I agree with this review 100%

[@teebee5323]

@@JefAlanLong its a 5 of 10 at best. not remotely close to a great Marvel movie. but I'm sure the soylent npc clones will love it just the same.

[@Conrad-py8mp]

Yeah not the most exciting movie at all. Until the last hour. I was so pumped for the movie and all the reviews were not honest at all. They did Thor wrong and Hulk in my opinion. Captain America was the best highlight by far.

[@SageVaughn]

@@Conrad-py8mp It made me very agitated how weak Thor was and how little action Hulk had

[@bdculli]

Pepper Potts in an iron man suit... Hmmm... Iron Maiden...? 🤟

[@supremeghost7950]

Up the Irons!

[@erebusvonmori8050]

They actually did it in the comics, her hero name was Rescue

[@jackcouch8322]

🤘

[@Red_Beard2798]

That would be an awesome name, but they'd probably get copyright lawsuits from it

[@holysmokes4493]

Margaret Thatcher...?

[@jmac9327]

I’m dumbfounded that Cap and Bucky didn’t even have a moment together at the end.

[@brann4850]

Bucky should have talked to old Cap in the end instead of Falcon which would also be more logical but then they wouldn't have had a new young Cap (for future movies) so they went with Falcon

[@johntodd4809]

Yeah i hated that he gave his shield to Falcon. It should have been Bucky. Here athletic black man who has no abilities, have my shield. Plus Cap and Bucky could have really had a "moment".

[@Grubnar]

I think the point was that Steve din't need to explain anything to Bucky, because Bucky already understands (and because there is plenty of time for them to have their moment later). Bucky sees him and he immediately knows what has happened, he understands, because he is just like Steve, a man out of time ... but unlike Steve, he didn't have anyone to go back to, he had no Peggy waiting for him. Falcon however, has no idea. A more important question would be, WHERE THE HELL DID STEVE GET THAT SHIELD?

[@jmac9327]

Grubnar is that what you figure? Lol

[@LegendInThaMakin]

A. Crews actually dumbass, falcon gets the shield because that’s a reference to exactly how it happened in the comics. When Steve Rogers became an aged old man, he appoints Sam as the new cap in the “all new all different marvel” run.

[@eryvac0074]

Thor before infinity war - realised he didn't need a weapon because the power was inside him - settled into his role as king - lost an eye to show what he'd gone through Thor after infinity war - got another hammer - no longer a king - got a new eye These movies really fucked him over

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

Made him better u mean

[@eryvac0074]

@@AcidifiedMammoth they backtracked on all of his development for no reason. No, they did not make him better

[@sarath1716]

Pretty sure Watiti will crap on all the development that's happened again

[@malcolmjenkins3585]

Not sure what to think of him tbh On one hand, he's become one of the guardians and his eye (a gift from rocket) and his new weapon (literally put together by groot) are supposed to represent how the guardians helped him find a new family (them) by basically making him a better version of himself. On the other hand, you'd think he'd want to rule asgard in honor of his family and friends who died defending it. so i see it both ways

[@xsasukex8298]

@@AcidifiedMammoth entire character was built around to become a good king now he's no longer a good king

[@HortonSalm]

The girl power scene really came out of nowhere for me, and I honestly think it would have gone better if her, Rhodes, and Falcon had a small aerial dogfight moment, all three being Air Force. Like, think about, Peter passes it off and War Machine forms up on her left, Falcon on her right, and the three start flying towards the van. A nod to who their characters are, rather than what's in their pants, would have been a lot cooler in my opinion.

[@pauldavidartistclub6723]

Nicely thought out

[@ConsistentlyInconsistent21]

Shit was cringe

[@Howlabunga]

lets just hope the MCU doesn't make an A-Force movie

[@Tomn8er]

Endgame was great but not as good as Infinity War imo

[@jackcouch8322]

I agree

[@ciupenhauer]

in was hard to beat from the get go, imo. it had all the possibilities with none of the restrictions, while endgame had to fix everything that infinity war indulged in.

[@isaiahlee2902]

You know, when you think about it, Endgame is probably an objectively bad movie. Idk about you, but I kinda felt like the whole "time travel through parallel universes" was just one huge Deus ex Machina which really messed with the narrative. But the movie is still satisfying as heck and I really enjoyed it myself.

[@madelaki]

​@@isaiahlee2902 It's absolutely a 3/10, maybe 4/10 movie. Too much pandering, mediocre comedy, that cringey scene with the women, bad CGI (the helmets in particular were just atrocious), the cheapness of the time travel solution... it felt like a very uninspired movie to me. You could tell it was made only because they had to make it. Were it not for the fact that the characters were set up in much better movies (most of them anyway), Endgame may as well have been another Battleship or Battle: Los Angeles.

[@shaunhumphreys6714]

infinity war was perfectly structured, perfectly timed, the ultimate ending twist.. endgame was the most emotionally powerful of the series so more emotionally effecting. so while infinity war was structurally better and of course amazing, i put endgame slightly higher in my estimates, and endgame has had a far greater impact on moviegoers too which proves it. but they are both amazing movies so it doesnt matter. two amazing mcu movies in a row. trouble is they are so amazing that marvel will never be able to reach those heights again. especially not with the new unlikable and unpopular characters they are putting in the next phase. and their own endgame will be like ten years from now. i still think no one will give a fuck about them after that time. .

[@z7983]

Heck even Pepper Potts did more than Captain Marvel, she was casually one shotting giant Leviathans using the armour for the very first time in a battle

[@azh698]

Ironically, since Gwyneth Paltrow could be argued to be even more insufferable than Brie Larson. Though her character was written better.

[@benmcgill2018]

@@azh698 all Brie Larson does is whine, but Gwyneth Paltrow actively manipulates and preys on trusting women, Gwyneth Paltrow is an actual evil person.

[@azh698]

@@benmcgill2018 You're right, I hadn't considered the business angle, just the public personas.

[@marzdaalien5144]

Man hearing you describe the last moments of Tony almost brought me to tears like it did in the theater.

[@Insane_Kane]

I truly dont get why he snapped away thanos's army, seems they could have the same victory by him just flying away

[@tristanlanphere7736]

@@Insane_Kane u dum??????? alien things would've still put up a fight

[@sugon_deez]

Plus you can clearly see the stones are literally killing him before he snaps

[@bertiemesling]

Totally agree with you on this. I have to say I left the cinema feeling a bit underwhelmed, despite the fantastic moments.

[@TyrDrum]

The send off at the end was what made it worth it.

[@pietropes1322]

The ending was beautiful but as a whole it wasn't an amazing movie tbh...lots of great scenes though.

[@ki11aqueen5]

The ending left me with a even bigger plot hole. When hulk went to get the timestone and the women told him if he takes it. Itll make her timeline branch out to make another timeline. In return not affecting the present avengers timeline. So then how does captain America come back old after living and making another timeline with peggy Carter? He made another timeline where Carter has a family with Steve. So if he were to go to the future. He would go to HIS timelines future. Not the present avengers one.

[@firenze6424]

Yeah me too most of it had to do with fat Thor and captain feminazi taking hulks scenes ( he was supposed to break the ship and get a rematch with thanos but they had to edit in captain “ what makes her a captain again?” Carol Danvers) plus it was just slow and terribly paced, all the great stuff was at the end.

[@rpcheesman]

"Mauler's gonna have a field day with this one" - bloody hell mate, I can't wait now.

[@XBullitt16X]

@harrythebarry lol, MauLer isn't a shill

[@Maladjester]

I snorted my coffee when he said that. =D

[@XBullitt16X]

@harrythebarry I am sorry, but liking a movie you may not, isn't "shilling". Not to mention infinity war was an excellent movie, one of, if not the best MCU films ever made. Not perfect mind you, but the good far outweighed the bad. Which unfortunately Marvel didn't manage to top or even match with Endgame. Endgame is riddled with plot holes, inconsistencies and plot contrivances, it had some good moments but overall it's average at best, unfortunately. if you watched Mauler's stream you would know that he feels this way over Endgame too, so how is he shilling if states the faults of another movie in the MCU ?

[@XBullitt16X]

@harrythebarry ooof that's a really bad take you got there mate. lemme guess you're one of those people that says Star Wars is for kids. Nevertheless if a movie is written well enough and is enjoyable enough, regardless of age almost anyone should be able to enjoy it. Not to mention, the reason I brought up Endgame was worse that infinity war wasn't to justify anything, just to prove the point that MauLer isn't a shill. He criticizes movies as he sees fit, not because someone is paying him to espouse a certain opinion or that he is a diehard fan of the MCU and think every MCU movie is perfect. He has movies he likes and movies he doesn't, it's as simple as that. Again, I will reiterate, liking a movie you do not doesn't make that person a shill.

[@metalliclark86]

Infinity War is ten times better than Endgame, but the former its still a plothole ridden mess. Mauler overlooked all that, and called it ''And Unbraidled PRAISE''. I lost a bit of respect for him. Hes doing good with GoT critique though, but that might be bandwagoning, something he obviously didnt do with IW and Im not holding my breath for EG An Unbraidled Rage, that will upset the normies.

[@fredharper4059]

You forgot the bit where Captain Marvel gives Jailbait Parker the cougar eye, a nod to the comic and the only humanising trait of her character🤣

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

"Hey Peter Parker, ya got something for me?" "Yeah, maybe if you grow out your hair a bit and clean up your attitude."

[@InfernosReaper]

@@KnuckleHunkybuck Alternatively.... "I need an adult!"

[@dutchGZ]

InfernosReaper I aaam an adult

[@kylefrank638]

@@KnuckleHunkybuck The short hair looked way cooler for her.

[@ShiftingDrifter]

Peter Parker plucked it with his prickled pecker.

[@brianmurphy767]

Can't really say I agree with the whole review. I loved the time Tony got to spend with his Dad and I feel was the final piece of his growth. He always had a somewhat negative view of his dad and thought he didn't love him. Yeah we got that small moment in Iron Man 2 with his dad on the video, but he got to actually talk to his Dad realize he was wrong. Infinity War was Thanos movie, endgame was not his movie at all, this was all about the original six avengers with two of them getting a final sendoff.

[@weldsj8847]

When Cap is holding the Hammer, Thor yells, "I knew it." Cap was trying not to show off to everyone in Ultron. He budges Mjolnr and stops on purpose.

[@SpaceStrike]

YES THANK YOU

[@thelingeringdouche822]

They say that, but I don't believe Feige

[@SpaceStrike]

@@thelingeringdouche822 no cap was always worhty

[@thelingeringdouche822]

@@SpaceStrike there was no reason he wouldn't lift the hammer

[@SpaceStrike]

@@thelingeringdouche822 yes, he didn’t want to show off. If he lifted it thor could feel not special. If he did it thor would be embarrassed

[@MrMulinix]

There was no enchantment on Thor's Axe. Anyone can pick it up. Odin was the reason Mjolnir could only be lifted by someone worthy of it.

[@aliashfaque1746]

@Conservative Hamster doesn't change it had no enhancement or condition

[@sean.a.s7234]

@Conservative Hamster that is never explained.

[@AmadeusD]

@Conservative Hamster um. He controls the fucking weather my dude.

[@AmadeusD]

@godtrekYT Jason That's a general comment on weapons from Nidavellir. Specifically Mjolnir is enchanted to only be wielded by those genuinely true of heart and 'worthy'.

[@justjoe4249]

@godtrekYT Jason how come cap could hold it then?

[@marrier9999]

Here's the Thanos explanation, at least by my interpretation. Infinity War Thanos felt older, more jaded, ready to finish the job and retire. Endgame Thanos is slightly younger, more belligerent and bloodthirsty. Younger Thanos was willing to go to greater extremes to achieve his goal. At least that's how it seemed to me.

[@Chamdar17]

Isn't the character supposed to be millenia old? What happened in the few intervening years to alter his character?

[@jackorton2707]

In Endgame, it became personal to Thanos. In Infinity War, he repsected the heroes

[@joefoulger3510]

@@jackorton2707 that isn't nearly enough motivation to go from dedicating his life to reducing suffering in the universe to suddenly decide he's just going to kill every single living thing in the universe instead. That makes absolutely no sense at all

[@superfighter064]

It is the thanos from Guardians of the Galaxy. Y’know the one who literally said “I will bathe the starways in your blood”

[@RedRaikou]

When we see Tony's funeral and it shows all characters in groups from those who were closest to him to people who never even spoke to him and then we have Capt Marvel standing out in the back, hands crossed, legs apart, standing with confidence, seeing her like that just made me laugh in a sad and touching scene.

[@namenloss730]

Captain Marvel being largely absent from the movie was great. The obvious girl power scene was cringey: Mantis is not a fighter, wtf is she doing in the middle of the battlefield The rest was great. I kinda wish they had skipped from tony's death straight to the funeral without the hologram though

[@cwoherem]

To be honest I had the same feeling with Shuri and Pepper being involved in the fight, I felt they weren't truly the fighting type, but of course, it was done purely for fanservice.

[@pebcak]

LOL I didn't even notice Mantis in that scene. That makes no sense.

[@justindearmond1]

Fat Thor and pussy Hulk....what the fuck? didn't like this film at all. too bad cause Infinity War was pretty damn good, for us old guard comic fans who grew up reading the Infinity Gauntlet storyline it was not good....not at all.

[@skylightsblade9468]

The worst part of that scene is that most of the female heroines there are awful characters.

[@namenloss730]

@@skylightsblade9468 well, pepper, mantis, valkyrie, and shurie are underdevelloped because they didn't have their own movies and they are tertiary characters, captain marvel doesn't even have that excuse

[@captaineveryman6589]

My favorite moment was Scarlett Witch going after Thanos.

[@kylefrank638]

And then she and Clint get the exchange at the funeral. After all their "veteran and newcomer" interactions in Ultron and Civil War, it was very satisfying to see them treated like friends, and not have them and their losses just thrown away.

[@shujin12345678]

SW: you took everything from me! Thanos: I don't even know who you are. SW: you will.

[@jkknight9209]

@@kylefrank638 Like Cap and Bucky were. Rrrgh.

[@worldofborriemoto2026]

If I were a super villian I would avoid a confrontation with her at all costs, especially if she is angry.

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

I wonder why she didn't disintegrate him into molecules?.. She can do that to the f***ing Infinite Stone, the most powerful artifact in the Galaxy, but can't do the same to a simple mammal???

[@jackthenarrator4735]

Endgame's plot in a Layman's nutshell: Act 1: LEFT BEHIND (without the Christianity) Act 2: BACK TO THE FUTURE PART II Act 3: THE RETURN OF THE KING (with a bland gratuitous sprinkle of feminism). **Tears will be shed** **Laughs will be shared** credits

[@TheGuyderman]

The irony is that Return of the King has what could be classed as a feminist moment but actually earned & done well!

[@gorkskoal9315]

LOL but only if they got to go 88 MPH That's pretty close.

[@jackthenarrator4735]

@Guy Turner - Agreed.

[@Gizziiusa]

dont know how "the thude" factors into all of this, maybe we will need to ask the Big Thorbowski.

[@consonaadversapars]

I get the Return of the King comparison, but really... Ride of the Rohirrim alone was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay (don't want to exaggerate, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay) more emotional and epic than the entire third act of Endgame.

[@TheNaveOfCharlemagne]

My absolute favorite moment in this movie was when Cap- who is fighting alone, who is getting badly beaten- stands back up, tightens the strap of his broken shield over his mangled arm, and looks out over the unquestionably insurmountable forces of the foe, ready to go, even if he's got to go alone. He said with his actions, this time, rather than his words, "I can do this all day." That was freaking excellent.

[@babybear9443]

Mine too. I love that shot of Cap standing on one side, Thanos' army on the other. Absolutely awesome.

[@edvaedan9161]

And the ‘on your left’ from Falcon gave me goosebumps at the time

[@wyatthill6252]

We should've gotten the Black Widow movie before Captain Marvel. Change my mind

[@johnforskin530]

Wyatt Hill true

[@dunringill1747]

We should have gotten the Black Widow movie before the MCU went overboard with WOKE agenda. Captain Marvel would have been better without it as well.

[@markrothermel3658]

Doing her movie after she died (even though its a prequel) seems kinda weird/lame.

[@dunringill1747]

@Hobarth McShane IKR. So sad. "I don't know anything about comics or story telling but I'm going to help change the world with my political agenda. Black Widow is popular so she will make a great tool for my social engineering movie". I get it, Disney - Patriarchy Bad, Women are flawless. I'll have to pass on the "Black Widow" movie. Such wasted potential 😞

[@Khorne_of_the_Hill]

Or literally any of the established and more compelling female characters they already had lol

[@rohanshah8808]

Wasn't the gauntlet made specially by the dwarf .....by using the power of an undying star.........how in the hell did they make it on earth.....to channel such an immense power...of the stones

[@shawngillogly6873]

Stark. Genius. Actually it was him in the comics too.

[@aetherblackbolt1301]

Iirc they had the broken gauntlet to reverse engineer from, so they didn't have to work from scratch. Then it's just the convenience of Stark having nanotechnology and being a genius to figure it out. And tbh it still probably isn't as protective as the proper gauntlet, since Hulk's snap damaged his whole arm and shoulder, while Thanos' snap only did his hand. Further, Tony's (comparatively) simple snap of dusting Thanos' forces (far less than half the universe) killed him. But yeah it's annoying how they brushed past that. Honestly if they just hinted/showed that they just used the time travel more to let them prepare, it would have been ok.

[@dantedrowson2511]

..... oohh. Oops.

[@ИванЧерников-ю9о]

NANOMACHINES, SON

[@isaiahlee2902]

@@ИванЧерников-ю9о THEY HARDEN IN RESPONSE TO PHYSICAL TRAUMA

[@xdanman1175]

So they essentially pulled a “Jake Skywalker” on Thor. I’d be really pissed off if I was a Thor fan.

[@davidisinger4806]

xdanman 117 great reference

[@imabird4205]

i am pissed off

[@johnmarshall2439]

@@imabird4205 Fuckin A.Of course they have shit all over the original comic Thor since Ragnarok .Fuck it,I have all my comics.An almost complete run of Thor except early rare and expensive issues.Don't know much about Thor's comic since 2001 or so because I quit collecting then do the direction it was going in.

[@KalCraig]

Yeah, I enjoyed the movie and I loved Thor in IW, but I was frustrated with some of how they handled Thor in this movie. I didn't mind it early on in the movie, but they stuck with it pretty much through the end. He had no real hero moment.

[@AdmiralCify]

I think it worked OK - Thor pulled everything he had into his "revenge" arc to fight Thanos in IW but in the end he failled. He blamed himself for the results and brakes under the pressure he puts on himself . It was an extrem move, but not a totally unrelated one.

[@dashaw3255]

The reason why Thano seems like a complete different guy is because he hasn't experienced the sacrifice he made in infinity war.

[@ghost3d474]

Damn that’s true. That makes a lot more sense now

[@joefoulger3510]

it still makes absolutely no sense for him to change his entire motivation from reducing suffering in the universe to straight up killing every single living thing in the universe. Just because some dudes try to stop him? And he KNOWS FOR A FACT that he beats them and accomplishes his goal in the future? Complete contrived BS

[@KyleMacSkill]

Except in Infinity War killing Gamora had zero change he cried for 5 seconds then he went on like nothing happened ?

[@djantouahmed7319]

@@KyleMacSkill Are you sure, you actually watched infinity war?

[@KyleMacSkill]

@@djantouahmed7319 lol yea I have seen it more than once, he’s sad for five seconds then gets the stone and gets over it immediately lol. then brings up once to Dr. Strange that he has sacrificed more than he could ever imagine. Definitely seemed insincere at the very minimum

[@ikhwaneivan4303]

the movie overall is a great ride for a moment. but after you watch it and having the afterthought, you'll it cause many plothole and nitpicking ending up making you unsatisfied for some reason. i'm having that experience right now

[@nerychristian]

The movie was entertaining because you get to see all the characters on screen. But it is so messy and full of plot holes. I think the movie should have been a little shorter and with less side missions. That scene where Iron Man and Captain America go back to the 60's, seems unnecessary. They just wanted an excuse to show Peggy Carter.

[@nerychristian]

@The Legend of Legends I think they should have gone back in time to talk to Dr Strange and ask for advice or find out how to defeat Thanos.

[@kingpablothe1stoverlordoft871]

Yeah, i think I'm starting to have that experience too after reading this comment section.

[@XBullitt16X]

yeah after my hype died down from watching it I started to realise some of the problems the movie had. The next day I really realised oh shit, this movie actually isn't that great objectively, when you actually think about it. Infinity war was definitely the far superior film.

[@Actiomedey]

@@nerychristian It also gave Tony Stark closure with his Dad which is a huge part of his arc throught the movies

[@eLWacKaZ]

The feminism shot at the end was cringe but in a 3 hours movie with about 1h50 of fan service, I think it's fine if they have their 20 seconds. Captain America getting back in the past to give the soul stone to Red Skull should have been a crazy awkward moment tho.

[@briansinger5258]

Yeah. It’s a bit like a make-a-wish gesture. If women are so weak and insecure that they need special treatment, give them 20 seconds of ego stroking.

[@RamsesTheStone]

I think you’re overreacting. They would have done this kind of shot even 20 years ago, had there been a movie of that scale with that many heroes back then. It doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with modern feminism. I’ve been to the movie theater with friends, two of them girls, who are real Marvel fans, who take this stuff seriously. Both of them have said that they would have loved a scene like this when they were younger. Not everything that has anything to do with the modern left and feminism is bad.

[@briansinger5258]

RamsesTheStone 20 years ago, Ellen Ripley duct taped a machine gun and flame thrower together (twice), do go destroy the horde of aliens and single handedly fought the queen in a Mech suit. It fits this conflict because it’s ultimately about individual successes rather than the collective success. Heroes lead the collective to success but the stories are about that individual doing better than the rest. There have been and always will be the Sarah Connors and Ellen Ripleys, female heroes - and incidentally, T2 manages to squeeze in some discourse on the importance of femininity as a strength, which is what’s missing in female characters these days... But the scene in question was more about female empowerment rather than tie empowerment _of_ females. It’s ideological, and so, an affront to the viewer, that wants to see team work that’s a little less cringe.

[@radrno7]

@@RamsesTheStone Like Mike said, 30 years ago, we would've had all of these characters well introduced, developed and built for this moment in contribution to the story, and without making it so obvious that they're there because of their gender. Now... there has to be an obbligatory scene for a certain public, independent if it makes sense, if it's well done or if it's good. In terms of superhero movies, I can understand little girls needing more aspiring female models, but don't be Ghostbusters(2016), don't force it on the movie, much less on the public, because instead of contributing to the whole "female empowerment", you're just reinforcing the idea that women need blatant appeal to be represented, as if they weren't capable of doing the same as others so they have to take time of everyone just for themselves. Not to mention you're just doing it to please certain audiences, doing that only damages the film as a work of art. If you're not going to bother doing something actually meaningful, it's better that you just don't do it.

[@Vamoss39]

@eL WacKaZ: That wasn't Red Skull dumbass. That was an entity that resembled Red Skull. Get your damn facts straight.

[@krisscheuch8151]

Am I the only one pissed off about what was done to the hulk? Also wouldn't Cap have run into the red skull while returning the soul stone?

[@Trahloc]

I've been waiting for The Professor or Doc Green to show up. Dumbass Hulk is only tv Hulk even the childlike Hulk was never as stupid as they show him on TV and even the MCU. Mr Fixit would have been awesome but I can't see how they could fit him into endgame. So I was actually happy with Endgame Hulk because we finally had a Hulk that wasn't a drooling angry moron since they never showed us the childlike wonder Hulk saw the world with.

[@hibbityhoopla]

Right? I wish we got like a last 10 minute scene to show cap returning the stones to each place and Mjolnir, encounter Red Skull and have that interaction and then contemplating his decision to stay in the past, only to cut back to the present with Bucky, Sam and Bruce to find him as an old man on the bench. Then we find out he stayed and married Peggy. I will say that while yes, it's open to interpretation, I feel that was one missed opportunity for us as fans of cap. EDIT: As for Professor Hulk, I was happy with him all in all.

[@jasonbrown4526]

I was more upset about what they did with Thor.

[@odinthorson3484]

No you're not. It wasn't Hulk. I get what they were trying to do but a green Ruffalo is not the Hulk. On a side note I'm pretty sure the Russo brothers and Mark Ruffalo are going to block me on Twitter. A fat drunken Thor and a soy Hulk, oh well.

[@aaddiis45021]

@@odinthorson3484 I think for Thor it was necessary he was too op he would have decimated. Thanos

[@FumblezXIII]

Tony passing after such an amazing Arch with alot of character development was mind blowing. The theater I was at was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. And when his holo gram said "love you 3000" everyone was choked up. What an epic movie and a great way to end the phase. Best...phase...ever.

[@TheMygoran]

Totally agree here. It had it's moments, and the sheer weight of seeing the final, to what all those movies have build up was still satisfying. It treated it's characters well, but the plot was kinda messy and not really satisfying. And as they hinted in the movie, Brie might get her all female avengers. But even if they do it and Brie has her own safespace from now on. Tony's Quest, Steve Rogers Duty, Widows Sacrifice, Strange's Gamble, Bucky's Redemption, Hulk's Smashes... She can't compare to that. To that one story we will always carry with us as something we could witness. Despite the kinda dissapointing final episode of it

[@jynxed66six54]

thing is, if they make every single character like captain marvel where its clear they havent earned their position, the hard core fans with just get bored and leave. and a lot of the mainstream fans too. it will hurt them in the long run

[@Minx5892]

Agree with this. Looking back on it, there were a few things that I didn't understand, but a solid ending. MCUs ROTJ.

[@zippycentral]

Top shelf laddie. Now all that’s left is maulers ten hour scene by scene break down “rant”

[@-JazzHands-]

I can't wait!

[@steprockmedia]

I think Endgame was a good film, if a bit predictable. It ran more like a fond farewell for the cast and crew where everyone got to have their moment and say their goodbyes. It was so much fan service, but we were rewarded with a climactic battle. IMHO, when you introduce time travel, you've officially jumped the shark. Plus, there's no real villain for half this film. They're just running around through time, bumping into their past selves and reliving the glory days. A nice, final bow, but lacking in style and all a bit inevitable in the way it plays out.

[@tasan215]

Well stated, I applaud your comment...👏

[@campbellsoup93]

I think the worst thing about this movie is also the thing that makes it so enjoyable to longtime fans: the sheer anount of fanservice. Half of the movie was pure fanservice moments, which of course as a fan you love to see but it's like the story took a backseat. It feels like they came up with a bunch of epic moments they thought fans would love and then tried to write the story around those moments instead of writing the story and working those moments into it.

[@bemusedbandersnatch2069]

I think they did ok all things considered. In particular the fanservice aspect is why I forgive them the time travel plotline. It's not just a way to get them out of the plot corner they're stuck in, it's actually a clever way to revisit the franchise before this arc comes to a close and to work in lots and lots of fanservice. "That is America's ass" for instance. It's also an interesting way to look at the ways the characters have changed and grown as the series went on. Cap has adjusted to the modern era, Thor gets a poignant moment with his mom, Tony gets one with his dad now that he is a dad, etc. That makes it more reflecting on the past than marching to the future which is why it kills the momentum, but I think this movie needed that because it's the culmination of so many things. Plus it's just pure comic book fun to watch them fight themselves and hop timelines. You couldn't get away with that in a regular movie but they are well past the point of slowing things down for newcomers so they can just go for it.

[@Salta0monte]

The movie had great moments - the poignant moments were the best - but felt a bit of a mess overall. They absolutely raced through a huge amount of story in the opening segment, pre-time travel, and it just felt like half the movie up to that point had been left on the cutting room floor. And they totally did the dirty on Thor, not happy with that at all. I watched a lot of the press & interviews building up to this, and had the impression Hemsworth wasn't happy. Now I see why. Apart from Brie Larsen being a total non-event (she's still rubbish even in the 5 minutes she's in the movie), every worry that people had about Endgame leading into full on SJW Marvel came to pass. I'll be finding other things to spend my time and money on from now on.

[@JackChurchill101]

From what I've seen, Chris Hemsworth pushed for this (can't say for sure), but he keeps saying in interviews how happy he is now that he gets more say over the character. I didn't like it - I was hoping for more Infinity War Thor, all pissed off and powerful, but they nerfed him entirely. He could have just been angry and reclusive, they didn't need to make him a washed out slob and drunk.

[@jynxed66six54]

@@JackChurchill101 thing is, in the comics thats pretty much what happens to thor, but he also becomes the all father in odins place, becoming one of the strongest being in the universe. he rules over an Asgard that has no people left, but he still rules it

[@happystar1000]

@@JackChurchill101 Maybe, it was just their way of showing how depressed losing loved ones made him.

[@JackChurchill101]

@@happystar1000 - fair, but it's their story, they can tell it any way they like. So they chose to do it this way, and Chris probably enjoyed it a lot more. Me, not as much.

[@streetcorner3451]

I didn't mind Thor being a drunk. I mean, look at the channel we're watching. What I really hated was that he was a fat drunk. Guess he'll be back to his good self in the next Guardians film but I'm done with the MCU.

[@2weakkickflip]

Yea this movie definitely isn’t perfect. Some things I didn’t like: -Professor Hulk wasn’t done right and felt squeezed in -Thor was absolutely emasculated, it’s a disgrace -Woke feminism scene took me out of the final battle -Tony shouldn’t have been able to hold the gauntlet even for a few seconds -The time travel parts felt too meta and like a completely different movie

[@Minx5892]

Thor should have had the fat joke then transformed when he powered up. I can kinda see why they did it, he took his failure badly (as seen when he kills Thanos) but the fat joke overstayed its welcome.

[@2weakkickflip]

AOR xMinxG Without a doubt... I thought they would use the time machine to revert him back to fighting shape like how they changed Antmans body during testing

[@onelifelived]

@@2weakkickflip That would have been AWESOME

[@2weakkickflip]

Skeptical Slim -If they really wanted to flush Professor Hulk out, they could have waited for a solo movie. He just felt rushed and wrong -I understand he is supposed to be broken, I just thought once he realized he has a real second chance, he would get his shit together and become the badass wakanda Thor we all loved, albeit for just like 5 mins -If you’re denying the movie was trying to score some woke points with that cringey ass “She has help” scene in the final battle, then you have not fallen into the battle of identity politics yet, lucky you. Try to keep it that way honestly -Yea that scene was absolutely iconic even if it didn’t make much sense -And yes, opinions on movie are subjective my guy

[@2weakkickflip]

Skeptical Slim Yea me too I’d give it a 9/10. It was awesome

[@davidbutterstein4616]

"oh hey random guy I met a few years ago here take my whole legacy. I'm giving it to you not my best friend since 1940s"

[@Etherman7]

But he's got more diversity points, so... Bucky got robbed.

[@MandaloreTheReclaimer]

Keep in mind bucky is still considered a criminal in most of the world that's part of why he was hiding in wakanda some people would not be happy if he was the new captain America.

[@novadreamer1779]

I see your point but Falcon has been Captain America for a while now in the comics so it's not surprising they took that direction

[@agentblack3090]

Bucky wasn’t the best choice considering he had murdered people.

[@joejitsu034]

He could hardly give it to Bucky when he’s a well known murderer & terrorist 🤔

[@jordanpeakofficial]

Your synopsis of the finale from 10:26 to 11:14 shows us all what an excellent author and writer you are, its sounded like an excerpt from a great audiobook

[@christopherburke2051]

I know its a little late. But the end scene when everyone came back actually did make my wife cry even though she has seen very few of the movies. It was epic and touching in its performance.

[@Emppu_T.]

Good thing about the Brie, I'm more of a mozzarella guy myself..

[@buczmaster]

Just watched it and I totally agree . I was confused as well when I left the cinema. I hate that they made clown from Thor which is my favourite character since Ragnarok. He looked and act like Volstagg from Thor comics, which is shame and misuse of the character. They also made Thanos like "typical MCU villain" kind of way, which is simple evil guy with no good reason or motivation for doing evil. Feminist moment also ruined tension of final battle for me, it was such a cringe moment that made me just mad. I don't understand why they went with the timetravel, it didn't work in any movie.

[@DravicPL]

What the fuck are you on about. No good reason or motivation? He saw the future unfold before his very eyes: in another timeline he succeeded in his pilgrimage and the Avengers are ruthlessly trying to undo what he believes to be his destiny. I'd be pissed, too.

[@st4ne4rmthevill63]

Thanos motivation was on point. & despite it being an obvious feminist moment I did enjoy the all female moment. Those bitches have all proven their badassery. It was well deserved. Just sucked Black Widow wasnt there for it.

[@buczmaster]

@@DravicPL what I meant with motivation is that he was always about preserving life, but here he just want to destroy it all and start the new one. Eliminating Avengers would be easier and faster way to keep his balance since only they had resources and ability to undo the snap. I don't buy that crap with "there will be always some people that remember how it used to be, thus you need to kill all and start from scratch". It was bad motivation in my opionion and made him like most MCU villains. I think that instead of capitain Marvel they should make Thanos origin story, that would expand his character even more.

[@andrewventresca9907]

@@st4ne4rmthevill63 really? Haha My theater was loving the battle then the girl power moment came, a few people gave 1/3 of a cheer then stopped as more characters appeared, then my whole theater went completely silent. My face got warm from pure cringe, like you're embarrassed for someone, I looked around and I saw 3 people (teenage boy, teenage girl, and a mom) who looked like they were sucking a lemon then I realized I was making the same face, Cringe.

[@Minx5892]

The "Girl power" bit to me wasn't that bad, I feel it was deserved as they were established and not thrown in like Marvel.

[@No_Way_NO_WAY]

*Tony dies.. World: *looks at Dr. Strange Dr. Strange: "if he had known it wouldnt have happened" World: "Oh, if someone just had a way to turn back time and bring ppl back to live...." Dr. Strange: "hm. what? i wasnt listening" World: *sigh*

[@SpaceStrike]

Not possible mate

[@Aredel]

That would have reversed the snap.

[@vexienroe]

Everything has to happen the way it did to save alternate timelines by nebula wifi alerting alternate thanos and their own time-line by getting back the stones. Strange had multiple ways to save his time-line but this was the only way to save them all. They needed to remove thanos from time. Or he would always succeed. After all he is inevitable it was only through their loss that they had what they needed (ie determination and will) to stop him.

[@jkknight9209]

Couldn't care less. In screenwriter parlance, they killed the cat for Tony.

[@hanburgundy4317]

@@vexienroe Tilda Swinton couldn't see past her own death. How did Strange see past his?

[@independentrecord1739]

Hawkeye has a daughter who at the start is learning to shoot a bow. Antman has a daughter Tony Stark has a daughter Thor passes his crown to Valkyrie You just know this is a setup for an all female feminist Avengers movie.

[@mightybluespider]

Period Synchers ASSEMBLE

[@Drivaawwrrr]

Oh god...you don’t think they’d make a joke about them all being “in sync” for fighting and that time of the month do you...? I can see all of the strong wAhMeN lines being written into a script now.

[@unrealviolet1833]

The A team or the A force or something like that 😩

[@acczaigrice9189]

Damn who hurt you guys?? That scene was awesome, but i bet you would like to see more men in movies.

[@mikearchibald744]

@@acczaigrice9189 More women in tights grappling with one another please!:) Go to a nursing home and see whose working it. Go to a hospital and see whose nursing it. Go to virtually any volunteer organization and see whose doing the lions share. Hate to say it, but if somebody is going to save the world, its not going to be rich white guys. That said, Marvel is late to the womens equality movement and is trying to cram it all in (sorry) with mostly male writers. Even with Black Panther or Wonder Woman, you can almost see the executives in the trailers saying "see.....see, we have women, stop complaining" I watched Infinity War with several women and they had no problem with it, at least for the presence of women, but they thought the movie was stupid:)

[@LordSpectreXIII]

I personally really dislike Captain Marvel in it. Stark's death was only nessessary cause she got overconfident and arrogant and let Thanos blindside her. This isnt a problem in itself, but the issue is that she feels nothing for being responsible for the death of a father. Thor went through tremendous guilt for letting Thanos win, and at least his excuse for playing with Thanos is more reasonable. He becomes a slob because Thor is a better man since Ragnarok. Before, he would react to his constant failures with childish rage or reflection. He's more mature now, but that also means he takes all the failure on his shoulders. But none of that with Captain Marvel ofc. If she felt bad for letting Tony die because of her arrogance, it might have finally given her something resembling a human, sympathetic flaw and sparked inner conflict. But nah she don't really care. Bitch.

[@frostwolf8190]

Exactly, main problem with cpt. Marvel is that she's too perfect, too strong you can't really relate to her. Other characters have flaws, strenghts and such but not her she is just OP save it all character that no one really likes.

[@HarosOfStyx]

LordSpectreXIII FUCK! SPOILERS MUCH?!

[@zacharyliverseed8464]

Didn't she physically over power Thanos at one point as well too? That's just stupid. If she could take out his space ship and fight him toe to toe, why didn't she try and defeat him in the past? Before he assembled the Infinity Gauntlet?

[@LordSpectreXIII]

@@HarosOfStyx You clicked on a review for the movie and looked at the comments you spurg.

[@LordSpectreXIII]

@@zacharyliverseed8464 The Galaxy is big ya know, maybe she never found him. No don't think about how she found Tony and Nebula at the beginning, stop!

[@azrasashima3733]

my only problem with endgame is the ending with captain america staying in the past. it totally contradicts the rules about time travel they themselves established in the very same movie, like what? I thought timelines in the past didnt affect their own timeline, so how did old captain america get to the bench without time travel? that said it was still a satisfying end.

[@JakkFrost1]

One problem with the time travel was that it actually lowered the stakes, and thus lowered the tension. Like you said, it's supposed to be a race against time, but once they were in the past, they had all the time in the world. Not literally of course, but they weren't racing against Thanos, they were only racing against the time when they knew exactly where the stones were, and really the reality and mind stones were the only ones with a severely limited time frame within which they knew their locations. The rest of the stones were in their relative positions for years, centuries at least, for two of them. Even after they'd gotten the stones, though, they had lots of time. They could have stopped for a bite to eat, taken in a movie or three, played chess, gotten a good night's sleep, anything. They could have waited a few _years_ before triggering the time machine to bring them back. There was no rush to get back once they had the stones in their possession.

[@empireempire3545]

Pepper Pots's armor is called Rescue. Cause, you know, in the comics she was unarmed but heavily geared for SEARCH AND RESCUE.

[@takeoffyourblinkers]

So Thor becomes what Danvers was in the comics, how progressive.

[@silmaril17]

What do you mean? Sorry I haven't read the comics.

[@cooljim1376]

@@silmaril17 Carol Danvers became an alcoholic after Rogue had absorbed her powers. Tony would help her through this time but I don't remember all the details of the character arc. I remember it being good though. It made Carol vulnerable and displayed her weaknesses until she could regain her powers. This was back in the day when Marvel used to actually write shit and avoided tokenism and fake diversity.

[@silmaril17]

@@cooljim1376 I see, thanks for that. And yeah it's sad the road they're going down. It's funny how they're so afraid to show female/minority characters to be weak when, like you implied, it's their vulnerabilities which make them relatable and likeable.

[@cooljim1376]

@@silmaril17 I'm really disappointed man. Like I don't really know how to put it into words on how much I dislike the modern heroes, or how the people working at Marvel Comics are going after people's kids for criticism. It's just nuts right now. I was hoping this film would stay faithful to the original Infinity Wars comic event and they just shafted characters for future titles. The original ending in the comics was bitter sweet and somewhat poetic, but as you can see here they just copped out at the last minute because most of the cast they want for future films would be in the soul stone forever.

[@Guitarmonade]

Fat Thor has everything to do with how he dealt with failure and grief (or really, didn't deal with it, because he's constantly drunk and they don't talk about it). Every remaining character dealt with it in different ways. Make nice with your inner Hulk, create a support group, become an assassin vigilante, or bury yourself in work. Some are healthy, some are not. Not everyone grieves in a healthy or productive way. To equate this to gender politics is seeing what you want to see and blowing this out of proportion. The first act is a story about loss. Stop making things up just so you can complain more.

[@G4nda1f]

To hear Captain Marvel didn't consume this movie like we feared might happen is far and away the single best piece of news as far as I'm concerned.

[@G4nda1f]

​@Mark Mitchell Sure. From the perspective of: "Why Marvel?! WHYYYY?!!! Why are you insisting on shoehorning in garbage that a large portion of your fans loathe and you *KNOW* this?" Yes. In an ideal situation this should contain none of that and so even 15 minutes of exposure to this toxicity can be argued as ruining it. Because it DOES! Not only from the identity politics angle but also because OP characters are destructive to the story in much the same way time travel and character resurrection is, like Critical Drinker outlined in the video. It just destroys any impact anything has in the story. "Nothing's permanent anymore." "Never fear, Captain Marvel will save the day. There's no danger here, no jeopardy." Etc... But, from the perspective of "Whew, that could have been sooooo much worse. It could have been Captain Marvel everywhere, all the time Captain Marvel." I suppose this is less consolation than it should be, but hey, rejoice in the crumbs we do get? And from my perspective, this is still the single best piece of news that I've heard. This of course, is different from the single best piece of news I can think of which would be: No Captain Marvel in it at all, no inclusion of wokeness, just Marvel trying to do a good ending, being faithful to what they built in the MCU.

[@jasonbrown4526]

She does destroy Thanos entire ship, and she also prevents Thanos from using the infinity stones. Even though she is only in the movie for like 15 minutes, she does a lot.

[@SDesWriter]

I think the one thing you left out on both the positives and negatives was Bruce banner/hulk. I thought the movie suffered extensively from the complete absence of a fighting hulk in the middle of the madness. It would have brought so many fun moments and high points to a battle that was spectacular, yet felt like something was missing. I despised the weaker hulk who didn't want to fight and actively avoided confrontation. The two moment s where we got to see original hulk during the time jump we're too great moments and just showed how much the movie missed having him in it. It's interesting how the film nerfed it's two most powerful characters only to bring back Captain marvel in time to single-handedly destroy a ship and fight Thanos to a standoff.

[@GTFORDMAN]

in the final battle scene when Captain Marvel comes in and all the enemy ships starts shooting in the sky at her, i thought "Yes it's Nick Fury in the Helicarrier!" that would have been more bad ass & made more sense!

[@redhood7650]

@Lego not if we saw some shots of a certain flame covered dodge charger

[@cmmagamers]

I know it’s a year old, but how the fuck would that have made more sense?

[@Orangefan77]

@@cmmagamers it wouldn't have.

[@cmmagamers]

@@Orangefan77 I know that people don't like Captain Marvel as a movie, I don't much like it either, but holy shit people don't turn your brain all the way the fuck off when anything revolving around her comes up.

[@SpaceStrike]

@@cmmagamers Ik i dont understand it, sure shes OP, but its cool

[@Trinsicity]

I didn't get why Thanos in the final battle was still so powerful that he could take on Cap, Iron Man and Thor with absolute ease without ANY of the infinity stones. In IW it seemed like he actually had to put effort in to beat Iron Man, who also managed to make him bleed. He had 4 infinity stones at this point as well. Then when he had all 6 stones, Thor still managed to overcome one of his blasts and deliver what could have been a killing blow. He should NOT have been able to beat Cap, IM and Thor the way he did in Endgame, especially since Scarlett Witch came in and made him look like a little bitch just a few minutes later. Basically implies she's more powerful than everyone combined.

[@elpollodelamuerte]

Infinity War made him up to be a beatable threat even with the stones and he only succeeded by a tiny margin. In this I just can't buy him being a threat. Granted the put him up against weakened heros but there are other heros nearby who can take him. I will ignore this as a sequel and leave it as it's own movie.

[@Trinsicity]

@@elpollodelamuerte That's what I mean, he just seemed really inconsistent in his power level. Even his motivations looked inconsistent when all his life he has been pursuing this goal of "balancing the universe" yet he flips this completely and decides to destroy EVERYTHING just because the Avengers are trying to stop him? As if no other race or group had ever tried to stop him in the past? I didn't like him at all in this movie yet thought he was amazing in IW.

[@AdmiralCify]

Because Thanos in IW was so powerful he knew he would easily win - he just played with his food you can say. No need for an armor etc. Russos even stated that in an interview. Thonas in IW was more on a journey etc. In Endgame he is extra motivated - its personal for him and people like Thor are not as powerful as they were before. And some peopel nearly won against him - like Scarlett witch.

[@Minx5892]

He beat beat hulk easily in IW and hulk is one of the strongest. He always seemed to toy around with them. Here he is desperate, he knows that they get the gauntlet its over. His views were inconsistent though but I can't help if he was like "if you can't stop overpopulation then I'm ending the universe and making one that's brainwashed into balance"

[@FMKAnimation]

AOR xMinxG hulk didn’t even make an appearance in IW tbh😂😂😂😂

[@MasterTSayge]

I agree. The Final battle was too short. I wanted the end battle to be like Return of the King. ie In Final battle, War Machine did absolutely nothing, again! Groot wasn't in the battle. Rocket and Hulk did very very little. Drax, Falcon, and Winter Soldier killed only one noob . Nick Fury who started it all was visually phoned in at the end. So basically all the Secondary Male characters did little to nothing. However, ALL the female characters, Primary and Secondary stole the show. I know the MCU is already going the SJW route, I'm just glad I'm done with it.

[@shadow-squid4872]

SKYRULE-49 War Machine did quite a bit in the battle of Wakanda in Infinity War, and Groot was in the final battle in Endgame with Rocket

[@JR-sx3gl]

After seeing Endgame for the second time I must say that out of all the films which didn't need to split the last part I'd love the Endgame to be split in two with extended battle as a last part. It was epic, but too short. I'd love to see more comeback reactions like Cap and Bucky, even a quick look of aknowledgement, anything. Bucky got dusted in front of Steve, so Steve should be the first person Bucky sees after crossing the portal.

[@brendanpelkey120]

I honestly thought the final fight had to much going on as the had to give every character something in such a fast rushed way.

[@ansonpang8468]

@@ElindorValor The joke of the century right there.

[@Entertainment-Gaming-Grandad]

In the movies defence they didnt build the time machine in 2 days it took much longer. Infact Antman and Hulk were working on it before Stark helped out by adding the final piece to the puzzle.

[@micahjohnson2367]

And may Elizabeth Olson get the justice she so deserves

[@reneelasswell3734]

I feel like Black Widow was done dirty in this film. Her sacrifice was every bit as essential to defeating Thanos as Tony's and it goes barely acknowledged. The memorial at the end should have been for her and Vision as well.

[@JohnWick-qu2ct]

Imagine if cap had stood up and said “I could do this all day.” Then the rest come in.

[@raccoonman4691]

They used that too much already

[@heliopyre]

@@raccoonman4691 he even acknowledged it himself when he was fighting his past version

[@Aredel]

I think that’s what they were conveying when he tightened the strap on his shield. There’s no need to even say it at this point; that action was all the audience needed to understand what he was thinking.

[@lucaspoon4202]

Wouldnt have really fit. One it be overused and second itd be cringy

[@patrickkilduff4355]

No...no....no!!!! If he didn't say 'Avengers Assemble'...I would have been extremely pissed...they have been purposely having him NOT say it for that exact moment! You haven't read one comic have you?

[@NoahHunterGamble]

They had to nerf Thor since he went toe to toe with Thanos in IW is my reasoning why they did this shit to his character. Not a fan at all but I kinda get why they did it

[@SpaceStrike]

OMG so dumb. HE HAD Deppresion. He lost everything and thought he failed

[@Aredel]

He *did* fail. Knowing that half of the universe was killed because you wanted to satiate your thirst for revenge instead of disposing of your enemy quickly would break any man, even someone like Thor.

[@SpaceStrike]

@@Aredel yea

[@conflictdiamonds]

What do you think is up with Loki and his "interesting" escape during the infinity stone heist? He straight up vanished which is not what happened in the original timeline.

[@TyrDrum]

Does that mean... no.... he can't be... can he?

[@MCFPapa]

They probably wanted to leave it open for Loki to come back in a potential new Thor movie (maybe Guardians 3?)

[@andrewventresca9907]

Buy Disney+ for some wacky adventures of Loki!

[@lordofchaosinc.261]

I hoped he'd live but he's basically just an escaped timeline copy for the Loki series. The Loki who bonded with his brother over Ragnarok can be considered officially dead.

[@Foodude]

It's a Loki from a separate timeline

[@ianschmitt4991]

If this was the last true MCU movie, it died on the battlefield in glory. Here's to GotG3: Asgardians of the galaxy 🍻🍻

[@fimbulwinter1780]

Hulk's arc happens entirely off camera. No Hulk action at all. Thor arc has no payoff. Cap showing up at the end went against all the time travel rules they set up for 90% of the movie. Film was meh for me.

[@bicnarok]

I totally agree, very disapointing.

[@Manweor]

I guess anyone is entitled to their blind opinions, right?

[@friend7535]

patrick henry i’m pretty sure the bald dr strange woman knew what she was talking about

[@Jmbbit138]

Lol. Guess you weren't paying attention if you think cap broke the time travel rules. Or to thors arc for that matter. You suck. It's okay though.

[@Etherman7]

Yeah, it definitely was flawed and the time travel bugged me a bit, but it was enjoyable.

[@rudacr]

The biggest bone I have to pick with this film is Black Widows 'sacrifice'. To obtain the Soul Stone 'you must lose that which you love', yet neither Hawkeye or Black Widow actually does this, instead choosing to fight over sacrificing themselves for the other, thus negating the premise of the exchange. If they'd have had Hawkeye realise that his only option was to let go of Black Widow when they were dangling off the cliff instead of Black Widow breaking his grip and plunging to her own suicide it would have made more sense. But instead Hawkeye ends up with the Soul Stone without actually making the sacrifice that was required.

[@vancityfoodcrew]

I was okay with depressed Thor because he didn't use magic to give himself six pack abs. Even though he was filled with anxiety and depression, he got the axe, fought alongside his allies, even with a beer gut. Anyone can be a hero, even those who have let themselves go.

[@hightechredneck8587]

Defeat can do that to a person.

[@radrno7]

THIS. This is someone who understood Thor. He was just a guy that had the deity of a god thrust upon him since birth, never did he stop to think of a different life for himself, it wasn't until he really lost everything that meant to him and he finally got his revenge, he realized that he had nothing else to live up to. He tried to keep his selfrighteous pride by acting like he was the one who won, when in fact he lost a long time ago, and deep down he knows that but won't admit it after all he's been through. That is a real person. THAT... is good writing.

[@evertonporter7887]

No hero is infallible! Even a hero experiences failure and defeat from time to time. And yes, heroes can die as well.

[@joejitsu034]

I agree that it portrays a good message. A hero is found in his heart. Not in his muscles.

[@robiaharefin6876]

Yeah but they over-did it. Make him into a fat drunkard who spends his days alone was better than the thor we got that was used mostly for cheap jokes. He's the fucking God of thunder for God's sake not a mere mortal.

[@LoveBagpipes]

I feel they wrote alot of Captain Marvel out of alot more scenes, after everyone's complaints

[@st4ne4rmthevill63]

Good on them if they did

[@lordofchaosinc.261]

There's the legend of the a and b script or a and b cut depending on polls. Maybe we know more in 20 years when someone spills the beans. I'll vote for more Black Widow and Nebula over female robot-Superman.

[@nerychristian]

I think you are right. They purposely sent Captain Marvel back into space until the end of the movie. My guess is the audience did not like her in the test screenings.

[@LoveBagpipes]

@The Legend of Legends nah...just stop watching MCU films

[@snowstorm9310]

The Legend of Legends I'm with​ LoveBagpipes ​The movies I grew up with are over, the big bad has been slayed, Tony's down, Caps' out. I'm bowing out for better or for worse after Spiderman.

[@adamtesseract5697]

Yeah, I don't think Mauler's gonna like this at all...

[@drunkenmumble]

Considering it’s just a bunch of fucking with the timeline, and a most superficial look at the previous movies, almost like a greatest hits, I think he’ll have mixed feelings, probably leaning negative tho.

[@adamtesseract5697]

@@drunkenmumble Yeah, I was just thinking that EFAP where Wolf and Jay debated the time travel in The Arrival, talk about cyclical debates...All in all it doesn't sound so bad, just the fact that captain cringe doesn't ruin the movie is definitely points in the right direction.

[@dimas3829]

yeah, like Dr. strange plan turned out to be fake(there is no saving for original universe and whole film takes takes places in alternative dimension), Thanos became retarded stereotypical villain, captain cringe ruins everything by being arrogant as usual, brainless fanservice Rat's way...

[@Nasmr1]

@Thorne no, he isn't.

[@Nasmr1]

​@Thorne "He’s just a fat Welshman who streams and plays video games" Totally irrelevant "hes a poopoo head" tier comment. "He’s too verbose and can’t get to a point without another hour of cross examination." No, hes thorough, ​and is purposeful on why and how it is exactly wrong. He doesn't beat around the bush and he is direct but it takes some time to say it. Its necessary too,considering how absolute toss pots like Patrick Williams will twist words like a motherfucker to try and strawman or change the narrative, his analysis leaves no room for doubt for these people. Just because you're low attention span doesn't make him poor quality.

[@taimu4624]

with all its flaws, it's still 1000x better than every movie marvel has put out in the last few years put together, and I would kill for the quality of their films to return to something like this.

[@nickynicks_]

Honestly though, my love, faith and fangirling for Marvel has ended with Endgame. I’m only interested in Doctor Strange, Black Widow and Guardians of the Galaxy...

[@patrickkilduff4355]

Do you hear how dumb that sounds? Do I have to explain it?

[@nickynicks_]

@@patrickkilduff4355 Oh I'm sorry I didn't know that voicing opinions is dumb! Let me rephrase, "it is FACT that my love, faith and fangirling for Marvel has ended with Endgame!" Is that better for ya? Or does that not work? Oh! Or maybe I have to have YOUR opinion and not my OWN to actually be smart?? Oh ok, got it now thanks, no need to explain! Happy new year

[@Harry-xu2yn]

They've removed all the og characters that made the franchise, in one way or another, in Endgame. So you probably aren't alone with that thought.

[@Pinkiefiedz]

I’m of the opinion of that a lot of characters weren’t done justice in the final battle. We didn’t even get the Hulk! It would have been boss to have a previously scared Hulk come out to throw down with Thanos. Dr. Strange used some really cool abilities in his first fight with Thanos, but here he was relegated to the sidelines. Man, put that no-good Captain Overpowered on water duty somehow. I’m sure she’s OP enough for that. They just had too many characters on screen to do them all justice, and I accept that. That doesn’t mean I think it was done as well as it could have been.

[@cosmokramer35]

I will miss Thanos the most... The best of all movies is watching your critics.

[@FreeOpenTruth]

You mean watching his "critiques"???

[@cosmokramer35]

@@FreeOpenTruth yes sir

[@achaudhari101]

Dr Doom and Galactus are next.

[@achaudhari101]

@Tyrone woodlong Debatable. People do want to see them done right. Stop being such a stuck up.

[@achaudhari101]

Yes he is. He’s the one that bitch slapped Thanos in the comics.

[@aleksandarzivic8093]

Imagine being in theater and sitting beside the Drinker and not knowing who he is. I mean, if you knew you would watch that movie from another dimension probably.