The Drinker Recommends... Invincible

Invincible is an animated show that renewed my faith in superhero adaptations, turning out to be far better than most so-called 'mature' movies out there today. Join me as I break it down.

[@TheCriticalDrinker]

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[@ruebenblack2161]

how fucking long this took you watch

[@jc3707]

Do a review on HBO's succession, top quality stuff

[@walterkovacs5368]

What's happening to The Boys... kzbin.info

[@MrJturner74]

This series shows 2 times what should have happened in Wandavision. You know the scene.

[@mikeemmons1079]

Stargirl, on Prime, is good enough that I am watching season 2. It isnt perfect, but it is funny, and... charming? I am a bit of a miserable bastard, but I am enjoying it. 8/10 for entertainment, and where a 10 is Late Night TV, it is about a 3 on the woke scale.

[@Yellowsnow69420]

It really pissed me off that Amber says, “I can’t believe you left us!” Then, ten minutes later she says, “Of course I knew you were Invincible.” 🤦‍♂️

[@likeabigboiii6324]

Yeah wtf

[@CsDanex21]

Yeah the writing for her character there makes no sense and felt extremely forced from the writers.

[@avidmcplayer4942]

If the writers want us to hate her then they're doing a pretty good job. Hopefully Mark will get fed up of her and then end up with *spoiler*

[@onegonearm]

@@avidmcplayer4942 As long as they follow the comic it's all good. They stretched Amber's part out some and made her more preachy but you can guess you got spoiler correct.

[@HD-pe8lv]

she knew but she wanted HIM to come clean

[@thekiller7994]

When Omni-Man’s betrayal of the Guardians is more shocking than Rian Johnson’s attempt to subvert expectations in The Last Jedi

[@peterparker9214]

Dude seriously!!! When that happened I was like “what….the….FUCK!?!?!” I couldn’t believe it. I thought their was a good reason for him going crazy on them, but it took me until episode 3 to realize he’s just an evil fucker lol When he goes to that alien planet and says “you don’t seem to understand, earth is not yours to concur…” gave me chills man. That shit was so badass, and JK Simmons deserves an Oscar for that voice acting.

[@edima]

I've never read the comic books for invincible, but I hear that this twist happened much later in the story. The shows idea of doing first episode I thought was brilliant.

[@anubusx]

TLJ is the perfect example of how to destroy a beloved character.

[@kongfeet81]

*zing*

[@chpsilva]

Yeah, that scene is comparable to GoT's Red Wedding, and alone is more memorable than all new SW trilogy.

[@bridgerarnold6412]

The choice they made to remove all music from the scene where Omni man goes against the guardians was truly incredible. It was such a shattering departure from the typical superhero cartoon. I will never forget that scene, and I can think of no other superhero cartoon scene that had that impact on me. It’s an incredible show, and they executed it phenomenally. Definitely worth the watch if you haven’t seen it.

[@michelangelo_6933]

I had the exact same feeling. Unreal 👌🏻

[@dedf15]

It happens a lot. It's a common method of cinematography

[@aziffikmal]

I know cartoons and anime are different but if you like no music during fight scene, check out naruto vs sasuke final fight, obito vs kakashi... I can't remember other anime that did this on top of my head but this is definitely not something new

[@kain7513]

@@aziffikmal I love anime but naruto is boiled sewage.

[@confirmed-air-fryer]

@@aziffikmalhat does music in a fight scene have to do with amber being a piece of shite

[@onomatopoeia7505]

This series is amazingly well-written. Except for Amber, who's made to say some contradicting things, and her role in season 1 seems to be that of creating drama for Mark. The scene in which she tells him she knows he's Invincible, yet still dumps him for it, was so nonsensical.

[@downburst3236]

But to be fair, women cannot live without drama. So it was realistic...

[@L00ww]

@@downburst3236 bro you cant say those things on the internet xD

[@Zergonapal]

Yeah, Amber had no chill.

[@slaapt]

It makes perfect sense. Just because you know why someone does something, doesn't mean you can deal with it. Plus it was also about him not telling her the truth. There being a lack of trust on his side is a proper reason to call the whole thing off.

[@Zergonapal]

@@slaapt no, sorry, she didn't try to see it from his perspective. Didn't try to understand that he was following the rules about secret identity. Didn't even really try to talk it out with him either as far as I recall.

[@rodneymckay8860]

“You don’t seem to understand, Earth isn’t yours to conquer.” -Nolan Grayson

[@champ1159]

That was some foreshadowing

[@nickram5061]

J.K. Simmons is a beast. And there's another one: "You should have stayed dead."

[@CASPB]

If it isn't theirs, that's why they have to conquer it. If you have to conquer it, then it isn't yours by definition. Until you conquer it. Then it will be yours.

[@siavashshahmoradi7551]

i thought that's the whole point of conquering

[@selalewow]

Wow, I am guessing some people did not get the jist of the comment.

[@JM-fb4kz]

When Omni man says his wife, Invincible’s mother is really more like a pet to him…right to his face. Well that was a great scene.

[@ZwiekszoneRyzyko]

Also she heard him through the earpiece. And the look on her face...

[@grayski3324]

Everybody just had to watch as They both took a heavy emotional crit.

[@bunnywithakeyboard7628]

To be fair, I’m not sure Mark is any more than that to Amber.

[@ZwiekszoneRyzyko]

@@bunnywithakeyboard7628 Are you talking about "It's all about me and my feelings and even though I knew you were a superhero I still demanded your constant attention" Amber?

[@normalguycap]

It was so stupid. Just like omniman suddenly caring about his son with a deus ex machinae flashback of a decades old baseball game. What if his son lost that game? Everything about the end was stupid other than Cecil and the presentation.

[@sigm3d262]

6:40 One thing I love about the final battle between invincible & omni man when compared to other superhero battles is that invincible gets thoroughly fucked up, physically and emotionally, whereas most superhero fights are typically just two invulnerable dudes throwing eachother thru buildings with little to no effect on them physically

[@MaleficOverlord]

It’s also great how in the end, Mark won because he couldn’t be broken mentally. He stayed true to his beliefs and self, even on the brink of death, whereas Omni-Man wasn’t phased in the slightest physically, but his emotional instability got the better of him in the end, causing him to flee. This only works because of the established relationship they have, and it works beautifully. Winning a fight isn’t always about whom outperforms whom with their fists, and staying tough, not giving in, no matter the punishment endured, can be much more effective in the end

[@DodgyTodger]

Watch the 2018 film death of Superman, brilliant. Spoiler alert ******* Most of the just league get fffffed up and "something" happens Superman too

[@richtea615]

So I finally got around to watching it, and Amber is the most insufferable and unworthy character ever committed to screen. Aside from that, it was pretty good.

[@evilparadigm]

I think it's okay to hate her. Young love is usually pretty dumb and Mark is still learning what he wants in a relationship.

[@insomnolant6043]

Yeah, she's awful. Worst part of the show, easily.

[@user-wn3wv5bx5e]

@@evilparadigm That's true. Apparently Amber was totally different in the comics, and I'm starting to think that some higher up told the producers to make it 'diverse' and so made a seemingly diverse person that's actually toxic as a response. That, or recent medias jeep portraying 'diverse is good' and responded to that. I refuse to believe that the producers, who made a good and nuanced show, didn't put Amber's detestability there on purpose lol

[@TheTGOAC]

@@user-wn3wv5bx5e Kind of fucked up if they intentionally made a black character a shitty person. If i had to guess though, they didn't mean it to be a racist thing and the character they made shitty as a protest to the diversity quota just so happened to be black.

[@lazerfrogstudios]

In the comics she was great

[@drdeadbeat1604]

Invincible: A Biography of Drinker's Liver

[@champ1159]

LMAOOO 🤣🤣

[@oxymoron458]

Drinker's liver looks like camouflage

[@RollingOnTheFloorDooming]

@yes It would be rather nice if you had the common decency to not post unrelated shit in literally every comment section. Go away now. edit: You are even using second accounts. Stop. Pls.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

There was no liver.

[@thebigpig2364]

His secret weapon is "nah it'll be fine"

[@tomaszurbaniak4312]

"What will you have after 500 years!? “ “You, Dad. I would still have you" Such an amazing and gut wrenching scene

[@DarranKern]

Cringe. They had to drop in a five minute flashback out of nowhere to give omni man a reason to spare mark. This show is written as poorly as a disney product

[@Xantheus07]

@@DarranKern Ok Karen i guess a father reflecting on his sons childhood is OUT of nowhere when said father and son are fighting.

[@mikeemmons1079]

@@DarranKern They crammed 12 issues of a comic book into 8 tv episodes. I am amazed by the results.

[@Chihiro-Kikuchi]

@@DarranKern yeah a father and son bond is TOTALLY cringe /end sarcasm

[@catherinele2260]

enough to make a grown man cry

[@lemond2007]

For most of the runtime of this show, I was absolutely convinced that Amber was going to be a twist villain because of how they set her up. Turns out, no, she's just an insufferable human being with no redeeming qualities.

[@rogerborg]

Indeed, Amber is the real monster of the piece. Whether it's intentional or not, she's a cautionary tale, and literally a lower form of life compared to Mark.

[@versecontro4898]

If i were to look deeper than the surface, my guess is that shes supposed to be that highschool love intrest that really isnt right for you no matter how you feel about her. That guy or girl that makes you look past all the toxic traits due to not love but infatuation. The girl horrible person that you dont want to be "The one who got away". That person you put so much effort into trying to impress so you dont loose them, that you dont dont even see that you are putting more effort into them than they put into you.

[@adamkalb1]

Amber could become a villain next season! You never know! A not-so-super villain who was just a bad girlfriend is perfect for Invincible because...it is the type of villain that he would least expect to face, when he is used to battling supervillains and his dad.

[@Thrawn23.]

She can be redeemed if the creators see the backlash to how they portrayed the character on screen

[@margarethmichelina5146]

I love how most of the reviewers that I've seen on KZbin said that Amber is the only problem of the show. Oh yeah, let's not forget how she's bitching of Mark not attending her Kitchen Soup charity shit while Mark is dying while fighting Battle Beast. Just go with Eve already, Mark!

[@doublejesusful]

What I expected: Animated The Boys What I got: A well written subversion of several superhero tropes, that plays with the expectations set by weaker written elements of the genre and uses that against the viewer. Behind the saturday morning cartoon façade lies a deep and complex look at realism versus idealism, morality and the human condition. I could go on and on about how simple set ups like Mark's parents having such a loving and open marriage makes Omnimans later deceptions and her just knowing somethings wrong that much more tension filled and believable. You get invested in every single character and the show does an amazing job of giving you just enough tidbits of backstory and motivations for minor characters to get you invested without slowing down the pacing or confusing the watcher.

[@ecarneylaw]

It is very familiar to the Boys, but I think its better. Its easier to follow and I dont like Huey. He is just worthless. Like if C3PO became a real boy. Just complains and frets.

[@noahduncan5524]

Ok calm down

[@kenshi_cv2407]

@@ecarneylaw I actually like hughie because of just how extremely normal he is

[@ecarneylaw]

@@kenshi_cv2407 he was best this last season

[@ecarneylaw]

I wrote this before season 3

[@Se05239]

There was only a single thing in the entire serie that really grinded my gears, and it was their version of Amber. Man, the show suffered because of her.

[@codyallen43]

Yeah I liked her at first but she got progressively worse as the series went on. She broke up with Mark because she thought he ran away when they were in danger yet later when he reveals himself as Invincible she claims to have known all along? THEN WHY THE FUCK WERE YOU MAD AT HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN YOU KNEW HE WAS SAVING YOUR FUCKING LIFE That was some real dumb shit right there

[@Lucas-jq2yy]

I despise her character both in show and comics.

[@devindickens9321]

what really pisses me off is that shes like the only main black character in the show and they fucked hers up smh

[@reaganabroad4952]

I think Amber in the comics wasn't particularly strong either. I understand the desire to try and make her more interesting. It may not have worked, but I get it.

[@sammydray5919]

Yeah up until she revealed that she knew all along, I was on her side since her acting that way made sense if she really didn't know. However that one line gives a whole new context to her character that effectively ruined and turned her from an ok character to one of the worst. Hope it gets retconned or something (like saying that she was just pretending to know all along just to appear strong at the time or something like that). It wont save the fuck up but atleast they can try to mitigate some of the damage...... Though I doubt that would happen

[@gfwinn]

The second the best friend said Amber likes “Ta’nahesi Coates and 3rd wave feminism.” I remember thinking “Run Mark. Run like you’re dad is on a killing spree.”

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

And that's one of the reasons why I turned off the show.

[@noelgorecki8363]

Actually it was 4th wave feminism which isn't even a thing yet but I feel ya

[@encryptedwolf7623]

Amber is the real villain of the show.

[@balazsvarga1823]

And she turned out to be a bad romance option. Hah.

[@IzzySarru]

@@noelgorecki8363 It is though? The current wave of feminists focused on intersectionality and shit are fourth wave feminists.

[@ColdHawk]

The voice acting from the guy (J.K. Simmons) who played Omni Man carried this from good across the line into great.

[@versecontro4898]

And then it transformed into Greatness

[@raielle]

@@versecontro4898 Is that you SPIDERMAN?!

[@versecontro4898]

@@raielle uhhmmmm… yesss

[@TheTGOAC]

Can't believe you forgot to mention my boy Walton Goggins as Cecil in the lineup, the dude is an incredible actor and Cecil is a very interesting character. Justified is also an amazing show with Walton in it.

[@Shivs628]

Walton is a national treasure indeed… he’s got tremendous range and is criminally underrated 💥

[@robonator2945]

he is a perfect character IMO. He's sort of like Nick Fury pre-Captain-Plank in that he's a distant asshole at first glance, yet after just a few minutes of him talking you realize he's playing a different game entirely. Plus, he's endlessly quotable. A good example of both is when he exorcised Damien Darkblood for getting too close to the truth, not because he WANTS to cover it up, but because Damien Darkblood could only see in black and white, and he needs to keep things grey to bide his time until that actually know what's going on, since revealing Omniman too early could doom them all. (it's also a nice bit of wordplay since Omniman's last name is Grayson, so he literally has to keep things gray, as in, he has to keep things how Omniman wants them to be) There are also lines like when Debbie is mad at him and says that that's why she hates him and he just callously responds "it's why I hate me too" not in a depressive or relatable way, but in that he genuinely doesn't like having to deal in the shades of moral grey he lives in, it's just that he has to in order to actually do his job.

[@LiddlestLady]

Boyd is such an unforgettable character

[@LucLB01]

Shane Vendrell to me. And that came after Venus. And that was hard to forget.

[@assmuddafukkinhole2]

Omni-Man: _"You don't seem to understand."_ Drinker: *"Tatyana isn't yours to conquer."* _"Wait what?"_ *"What?"*

[@Sela1]

A true enjoyer of the Drinker lore 🍷

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@Sela1 She belongs to everyone *son*

[@rofflestomp684]

@@MrJustonemorevoice But, but, but! I want to marry her as my one and only. She winked at me FFS!

[@atlantasveryownkingtchalla585]

Bust down Tatyana Omni Man: Tatyana is my pet Me as Mark: And Tatyana isn’t yours 😂

[@crabbowiththestabbo]

Omni Man: *Donuts Drinker* Drinker who already lives on liquified organs: “Oh Please.”

[@nikhilreji9334]

That 'You've gotta do better senator' cracks me up every time lol

[@beardedraven7285]

Captain america is supposed to lead by example not nag.

[@syme9925]

You've gotta do better Disney

[@notyournormalguy_45]

Each and every line of MsheU cracks me up.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

"Oh, fuck off Sam!" -Critical Drinker

[@kirby7294]

Can someone explain why a Senator was handling that? Would that not be the President's job?

[@VladTepes151]

In the topic of "tired genres", I feel you can always tell good stories in any genre, new and old. You just need to be a good writer.

[@Bolter024]

Couldn't agree more

[@jaaonvilla]

Underrated comment

[@UnwantedGhost1]

Unfortunately, we don't much of them nowadays. And it seems like it's further diminishing in number each passing year.

[@enekaitzteixeira7010]

Disagree. When people reffer to tired genres, they don't reffer to the overall class of stories, but the archetypical plots and developtments.

[@slaapt]

@Critical Drinker, I blame you. All the personification we got of Red Rush amounts to 10 lines of dialog. He was basically a no-one as far as I knew him. But I teared up when I heard "Joseph is finally standing still, and I still can't see him". Damn them onions in this series. Is this what investment in an universe feels like? I might have forgotten...

[@versecontro4898]

Dude i feel that. When i first decided to watch the series i knew there were comics and i saw the memes like "Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power" so when i watched the first episode i was like "Ok Ok its an animated series thats kinda ripping off DC but it seems good so far so lets see where it goes" and then with no explination at the end where its the justice league vs superman and superman SLAUGHTERS the entire team i was like 0______0................. Oh this is new. But back to what you said lol even with so few lines and a single episode you felt like you knew all the heros and that they just got ripped away from you like a teddy bear youd had since you were a child. You didnt actually know them and only knew a fraction of their stories but they where built so quick and so well (Like with the melting martian and the little girl who was proud when he stretched to a new distance) that you felt like you knew them as long as you knew batman. It actually felt like the justice league was REAL in OUR WORLD and that the Gaurdians of the Globe were comic book representations of them. ok im just rambling now but yass i agree with you lol

[@devildolphin2102]

Best depiction I have read for Omni-Man. “You see you thought your dad was Superman, but in fact He was General Zod the Entire time”

[@nont18411]

Can’t wait for Doomsday vs Darksei… I mean, Battle Beast vs Thragg.

[@filipbabic4913]

@@nont18411 you mean Liono vs Freddie Mercury

[@Lego6979]

Episode 1: "I'm a Kryptonian." Episode 8: "Sike, I'm a saiyan."

[@ayushmanrajawat2828]

@@Lego6979 Pretty sure omni man would be defeated by supes

[@MrFallenone]

@@ayushmanrajawat2828 Thats because Superman is stupidly OP it also depends of availability of Kryptonite tho.

[@SolidSnake8295]

“You didn’t show up to volunteer at the soup kitchen. That was a big deal for me, Mark.” “Amber, I’m sorry. I would have made it on time if... I DIDN’T ALMOST F***IN’ DIE!!!”

[@MASHo1992]

Maaaan, I love LongBeach's skit xD

[@ablethreefourbravo]

I don't know what this is from (if it's from Invincible then it's one more reason for me to check it out), but it sounds like a conversation a normal person would have with an SJW.

[@ghidorah4695]

@@ablethreefourbravo I don't think this conversation actually happens and Mark's dialogue definitely doesn't, but Amber is definitely an SJW

[@SolidSnake8295]

@@ablethreefourbravo It’s from a skit a guy did pointing out what a self centered, POS person Amber (the SJW black chick) is. It’s basically all the things Amber said to Mark and all the things Mark SHOULD HAVE told her.

[@johnleonard9102]

Griffy fans unite!

[@kevinoneil5120]

3 episodes into season 2 and I have to be honest, Amber is FAR more likable than she was in season 1. I was worried they'd hyperfocus on her (given the manner in which her character was changed) but so far she seems to understand that Mark is going through SO much more than she'll ever understand. Dare I say... she may have had some character development 😮

[@archelon2959]

I kinda don’t like it all that much cause I thought that she was just going to keep treating him like trash and then he would get with eve now that she’s treating him nicer it might mean eve doesn’t get with mark

[@kevinoneil5120]

@@archelon2959 Amber *should* still get phased out of the story by the end of this season one way or another.

[@criticalcommenter]

And more importantly it shows that Drinker doesn't hate Everything woke. He enjoys it in this

[@trekkinmain4974]

If she becomes likeable for no reason, that just means that they wanna kill her off or something.

[@ziachung4547]

They actually made me care about Amber's well being when her life was threatened by Anissa and I got a little choked up just the tiniest bit watching them break up. The voice actors knocked it out of the park MASSIVE KUDOS to Zazie

[@bkr323]

that last fight scene with his dad was just....brutal. I need a season 2!!!

[@Arassar]

I can't wait til Mark drops Amber and gets with Eve. That was really my only problem with season 1.

[@torlandobx9671]

💯 Facts

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Also, Amber is supposed to be white and likable in the comic and William is straight.

[@reven06]

@@margarethmichelina5146 Nah, he was gay in the end

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

@@margarethmichelina5146 Amber is also a plank of wood in the comic

[@jean-sebastienmatte2358]

@@margarethmichelina5146 I don't really mind William being gay especially since he did not feel as forced as in other shows and his friendship with Mark feels genuine, I quite liked him. Amber tho can go just disappear in a blender for all I care, hate that character with a passion.

[@Aredel]

My only gripe with this show is Amber. Eve: "Mark got run over by a bus!" Amber: "God dammit! How dare he back out of helping in the soup kitchen!"

[@shadowofhawk55]

Mark - I risked my life to stop that Cyborg monster thing Amber - But you didn't help me get people away from it Me - I think we have a contender for biggest Douche in the universe.

[@mrminecraftcubeable]

Yeah, she is totally different from the comics

[@Aredel]

It’s made even worse by the scene where she says she’s known for weeks about him being a superhero, meaning she prioritizes her own entertainment over human lives

[@CsDanex21]

@@Aredel That's because her writing is inconsistent. she clearly didn't know but the writers kind of forced that revelation to create conflict which was unneeded. Before that It was understandable that she was mad at him for missing the soup kitchen but she wasnt angry at all when she learned that he "got hit by a bus".

[@orppranator5230]

When she knows that he was actually saving lives as a superhero the whole time.

[@ETibbs11]

Cecil is such an underrated badass in the show. That man has the heaviest steel balls to try and distract Omni-Man for just a few minutes.

[@Vimdraa]

I wish they took a minute to show his playful side though. Like how he knows that using his teleports is about $7m each time, but he just "loves the way it tingles" and so says fuck it, foot the bill.

[@Bigweave74]

The whole social justice arc for Amber is a bit of writing genius. She thinks she's so important and acts VERY self-centered in the face of what she secretly knows. She's so absorbed in herself that she fails to realize (or refuses to realize) how big the universe really is and that brutality is the way and her views on how things should work are utterly insignificant. They wrote a typical, neive college teen perfectly.

[@scavthenee]

For the life of me I can’t understand why Mark stays with her. They even teased us with Eve walking in on them. Amber fucking sucks and I feel like I speak for everyone when I say we rooted for Eve.

[@danieldickson8591]

Thank you for recognizing that Amber is a teenager, and is still learning about herself and her place in the world, acting like real teenagers often do. For that matter, Mark also acts like a flawed teenager, and William was right, as far as boyfriends go he treated Amber poorly.

[@raielle]

@@danieldickson8591 Always treat social justice activists poorly. It's what they deserve for their ignorance they try to force on the rest of the world no matter the cost. Some oil protestors discovered reality recently.

[@bakakubi]

I really do hope people like that take a good look at themselves and see how bad their actions are reflected IRL, though I doubt they would ever come to such a realization

[@cara-setun]

Exactly. She’s a human character.

[@swoozie]

“Earth is not yours to conquer” -Omni Man If u haven’t seen the show, TCD is right. Go. Now!

[@anth139]

This is the most badass quote from any movie ever that I can think of.

[@errorcringyname4044]

I mean those aliens given enough time could likely trololol everyone else

[@isheetfromaswhole3657]

Cartoons are for babies

[@Matteus2109]

Holy sh*t! Did not expect to see you here.

[@hannsharrpy2702]

It is a great show... But the woke is still gross

[@thereaver8083]

"You Dad, I'll still have you." Shit actually made me tear up a little. Can't wait for season 2.

[@alexpardon585]

One of the most impactful lines I’ve ever seen, left me speechless

[@dangerousbeing150]

If it stays true to the comic, you are in for a wild ride my dude

[@isheetfromaswhole3657]

Cartoons are for children and people conditioned by society.

[@imsentinelprime9279]

@@isheetfromaswhole3657 what

[@gagalover2k10]

@Robert Brown you do realize Omni-Man isn’t human at all, right? It was always his species’ plan to rule earth or wipe it out if need be, he’s never cared about humans, he even says so, going so far as to refer to his wife as a ‘pet’. I never got the feeling from the show that we should automatically look up to him just because on the surface he’s basically Superman. The first episode gets rid of that mindset pretty fricken quickly too. The only hint at him having some sense of empathy is for his son when he says “you dad, I’ll still have you” - after beating him within a minuscule of his life. I think you completely missed the whole point of this character 😂

[@mojopin2000]

Drinker has such a great batting average that I don’t watch his recommend videos completely, I just take his word for it and jump straight in. I’ve seen most of his picks, but the one’s I’ve missed are all on deck because of him. Cheers mate!

[@ShiYuMeng2]

This series is a piece of garbage when you realise the main plot in Ep 8. Every episode has some woke garbage in it too. Drinker is wrong on this one.

[@MRJTD99]

Only one I didn't agree with so far is Event Horizon, though I can see why some people consider it a cult classic. Absolutely loved Invincible, The Boys SEASON 1, and Snyder's Watchman though.

[@CLove511]

Totally agree on event horizon, I barely made it through... But maybe seeing it all these years later doesn't help, after other movies have improved on its elements.

[@elliotcowell3139]

@@ShiYuMeng2 a few casual mentions of "woke garbage" is okay in my books as long as it doesn't whittle it's way into the story. Which in the case of invincible, it really doesn't. There's no comparison between this and captain marvel for example, which is literally a feminist circle jerk

[@ShiYuMeng2]

@@elliotcowell3139 A little woke garbage is just as bad bc it is programming the audience to accept it.

[@theseel2718]

This show made me actually like the wife character, which is something even Breaking Bad couldn't do in 5 seasons.

[@peanusbenis5631]

"What will you have after five HUNDRED drinks?!" "You, Drinker. I'd still have you."

[@chpsilva]

Go away now.

[@baffledking9902]

Who's cutting the onions in here?! 😢

[@RoTenken]

Actually, you'd have a liver transplant.

[@icycrusader1947]

"...nah it'll be fine" Drinker then punches our lights out, takes our wallet and goes to Tatiana. Quite a happy ending.

[@danielarcher369]

@@RoTenken with a bottle of chianti!

[@Nebechadnezzar]

Even though Amber was very polarizing to people, I still believe she is a pretty accurate way of showing just how unreasonable some people can be in relationships.

[@supersani21]

The moment she blackmailed the bully just to give Mark her number, he should have seen a few red flags

[@TheEtherPanda]

The comic version is less annoying

[@milton1448]

"Everything woke turns to shite"

[@Noperare]

She is a well writen awful girlfriend. Can't wait for Mark to have enough of her bullshit and drop a big "f*ck you" and go with Eve.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

See, if she's an accurate depiction of the members of the woke blob... Then I wouldn't mind her much. In fact, if that's the case, I hope she turns lesbian, so Mark doesn't end with her at all.

[@temwananinkana3419]

I liked hw omni man wasnt too overpowered. He was vulnerable. And not allowing anyone to say invincible and cutting to the title , was cool

[@maddybandowski1012]

I just finished the last episode yesterday and I actually legit cried. I think that's the first time I cried during a superhero movie, because they actually did a good job of fleshing out Mark's character and how completely devastated he was to find out who his father really was. I also was wore out by the superhero genre but I really hope this continues to be as good in the next two seasons.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

The episode when Battle Beast easily beat Mark, Monster Girl and Black Samson feel like when you accidentally entering a secret boss fight while your character level is still low in video game.

[@jamesbaggett7223]

Michael Dorn voicing Battle Beast was genius casting

[@anubusx]

Damn Worf has some serious anger issues.

[@MrFallenone]

I prefer my made up name for him. "The lion King" LOL He smacked sum bitches and left.

[@its_dey_mate]

He is easily the second strongest character in the series, so yeah.

[@jamesbaggett7223]

@@MrFallenone I can't wait to see his rumble with Thragg in animated form.

[@alexreeve2973]

The classic Alan Moore trope “Why would godlike superhumans continue to be constrained by human morality.”

[@bunnywithakeyboard7628]

Genuine question: is this specific question outright written anywhere or are you paraphrasing? I have a vampire TTRPG where it’d be useful to use.

[@alexreeve2973]

@@bunnywithakeyboard7628 I don’t think so, it was just a personal observation. Feel free to quote it.

[@jonboulet1614]

It is certainly a recurring theme for the great bearded one.

[@Trollificusv2]

Very good summary of the dilemma and the unavoidable issues that would arise. One quibble thought, it isn't a trope, it's actually a serious moral question. Trope is more of a cliche or storytelling convenience. This question is the very heart of the matter.

[@baffledguy5103]

"There is no Good or Evil, only what you are willing to accept." People are willing to accept some pretty horrible things because they believe they are powerless to change it, and equally powerless people willing to launch a one man crusade because it doesn't matter if they can change it, they're not going to accept those terrible things are simply allowed to happen.

[@D4rkm00r]

This was amazing! I found the deaths (although 'shocking' in their uber violence) gave a real sense of peril to the protagonist. Admittedly Martin was doing this 20 years ago, but they implemented it really well here. Fuse that with well written coming of age (yes, which includes realising your parents aren't the perfect beings you thought they were) drama and they were onto a real winner.

[@cara-setun]

0:38 this is what we call foreshadowing

[@Jerry-tg7zx]

Lmao

[@calummacritchie7840]

This is the most cheerfully "go away now" I've heard from drinker for a while.

[@TheMyrmo]

I noticed, he's sounded depressed for so long. A nice change.

[@bodhimind108]

I love the positive sounding ones.

[@kirbymaster7491]

It's nice to know that his quest for content doesn't always bring him to grief

[@nathank2289]

The most impressive part was that the aaa actors never broke the immersion. Never felt like omniman needed pictures of Spiderman or costume guy was after Batman. Great writing and acting

[@CLove511]

There were a couple that I did feel. As soon as I recognized JK Simmons' voice, it took a couple episodes to see Nolan again. Same deal with Rex, all I heard was Dennis Feinstein. But yeah, the talent in this movie is really incredible.

[@lightpoint4426]

Yeah I didn't even suspect that the costume guy was Mark Hamill until I saw the cast list 0.0

[@michaell8000]

@@lightpoint4426 yeah it's really surprising how hard it can be to recognize his voice when he's actually trying.

[@safaricalamari7613]

Not to mention the Alien being seth rogan.

[@joseaca1010]

Spoiler: the only REAL problem with Amber was the baffling decision of the writers to have her know about Mark being invincible way before he told her, up until that point her behavior was reasonable even if one wouldnt agree with it, but with the revelation she always knew, it makes her behavior in previous scenes seem toxic and manipulative

[@BdoubleGoat100]

Agreed. The whole playing dumb while forcing Mark to make decisions she knew were impossible really changed the way you look at her. I'm all for having character flaws, but the writers framed it as if we were suppossed to sympathise with her side, when in reality she came across as selfish and, as you said, completely toxic

[@SevenPr1me]

Youre gonna be happy to know amber is not Marks true love. Shes a minor character in the comics and she will disappear from season 2 im sure

[@BigeggsBlackPen]

@@SevenPr1me I hope mate. Have Mark date Atom Eve like in the comic seem too good to be true at this point.

[@boots2asses376]

I love Invincible. I was put off for a while just because it felt like another superhero show coming along, full of tropes and predicable storylines. Wow was I proven wrong. After the first episode I was totally invested and in shock, I couldn’t stop watching it.

[@Wicked061]

"This planet is not yours to conquer" Holy shit. Talk about forshadowing

[@EddyA1337]

Ya at the last episode I immediately recalled that part and knew what he truly meant. Looked ahead in the comics and the flaxans play a huge role going forward too, as foreshadowed in the most recent episode.

[@Wicked061]

@@EddyA1337 Im really tempted to read the comics. But id like to wait at least for season 2 then ill plow through it. The first time i watched it, i was like, "o no. A justice league ripoff with teen school drama. Im fukin out"........but then the last 10 minutes happened. And i sat there staring blankly at the credits, beer in hand growing warm, ciggarette burned up completely. And i just thought. "What. The fuckk was that???? Did that fish guy just get hammer-timed????? Why did he do that? Dont know. Was it a doppleganger? Dont know. Was he just going apeshit? Dont know. They were called there. Who set it up? Dont know". Then i just finished it. Amber and will were excruciatingly painful to endure but whatever. The rest of it is good enough to drown them out. An absolutely fun show. Another detail i like, is that the title card gets progressively bloodier as the violence in the series mounts.

[@Xantheus07]

So you wasnt clued in after he killed the Guardians of the Globe in episode 1?

[@IvanLozanoGuitar]

Which was lost in some translations like Spanish... where it translated literally as "you won't conquer this planet", and that's different.

[@CrimsonTear1996]

Hes like nah bitch it’s MINE >:)

[@shadiversity]

Invincible is so awesome, great to see it getting some more attention. Really good summery and review! Captures many of the reasons I loved it, and said so in my review on Game Knights. Love your work mate, you're quickly becoming one of the best reviewers on KZbin!

[@christopherbucher7017]

Nice to see you here Shad!

[@theanathema3062]

Hey shad, fancy seeing you here

[@kennethmassa6682]

Wait, for real? So strange seeing Shad here, but I'm happy about it.

[@calummacritchie7840]

Hello Shad. Always a pleasure to notice you. :)

[@wyattcarroll7414]

Shaddy daddy

[@DarthRadical]

I went and read the comic, and I liked it even more. It's much more of a slow burn to start, plus Invincible's power level is much more consistent and he actually largely lives up to his name.

[@madrabbit9007]

Just discovered your channel today and I love it. Gonna spend the weekend going through all of your old videos. Invincible...when I saw it pop up in Amazon I thought it was a kid's show...boy was I wrong. I can't wait for season 2.

[@Chihiro-Kikuchi]

The guardians deaths shocked me epically… I can honestly say it turned a “eh I’ll watch it if I remember it exists “ to a “HOLY SHIT NEXT EPISODE “

[@eugenetswong]

I'm confused. I haven't watched the show. Why is he killing the guardians?

[@themaverick1898]

@@eugenetswong lol gotta watch the show. Finding out why is kind of the entire premise of season 1.

[@kenny9582]

@@eugenetswong he had a bad day

[@eugenetswong]

@@kenny9582 and that's what makes him so likable! :-P

[@eugenetswong]

@@themaverick1898 thanks for clarifying. It seems that it's worth saving some money so that I could watch this.

[@MaxRovensky]

"Shang-Chi had a plot with more holes than a Ukrainian strip club" As a Ukrainian, I agree

[@zenu8830]

I don't get it? Explain please. I am not familiar with Ukraine

[@danielarcher369]

@@zenu8830 it is like Uranus on steroids.

[@zenu8830]

@@danielarcher369 well I have never tried steroid on my anus so🤷

[@HAL-dm1eh]

We know what is going on with your country, and we (USA) are going to help take down Soros!

[@anttikettunen8601]

LMAO

[@youknowwhoiam6164]

Just started reading the comics, and holyshit the best is yet to come, I can’t till the show introduces Oliver, Conquest, and dives deeper into battle beast! This show is going to be amazing!!

[@malif1279]

Invincible is one of those long pieces of media I managed to complete in like a week because of how consistently fucking great it is

[@Vimdraa]

I for one am looking forward to seeing a certain Viltrumite lady.... *drools*

[@venren523]

@@Vimdraa bruh nah

[@scrp6638]

@@Vimdraapoor Mark tho

[@Vimdraa]

@@scrp6638 Oh, for sure, but... I do love how forward she is :D

[@nathonso_edits]

I get that they wanted Amber to be annoyed with Mark for keeping everything a secret and wanting her to go along with it, but it makes 0 sense when she breaks up with him over leaving at the college fight when she knows that he's Invincible?! Wtf did you want him to do? 😂

[@retpal2302]

Hollywood is on a mission to character assassinate every male character. This show was enjoyable, which is rare today.

[@ghost656metal8]

Let's hope it stays that way

[@snuke37]

His best friend was super cringe tho.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@Lujack Shaw , Mark is going to be an even bigger than Sanji from One Piece in the second season of Invincible, and I’m not going to watch the second season of Invincible unless I watch it through piracy.

[@cosminstanescu1469]

They're doing that in this show too. You just don't see it. Omni-man is the ultimate bad dad and not only that. He's also deceptive. It sends a message that you can't trust any man, not even the apparent good ones. They're fascists in disguise, waiting to strike. The only way for men to be good according to this show is to be grounded by a gender studies gf and a gay best friend. And ffs, how would Viltrum even work as a society? How they haven't all killed each other? No matter how strong you are, there's always someone stronger than you in one context or another. Everyone's weak at different things. This show is dumb and it doesn't make any sense.

[@JJ-zr6fu]

@@snuke37 best friend and girl friend she got upset because he ran away but knew he had just saved everyone there.

[@cluelesslink16]

“Death can come suddenly, violently and permanently.” -shows The Immortal on screen

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Operative word - “can.”

[@shadowstrider5033]

Well, he is immortal.

[@rtstrong]

To be fair, death came for him twice… courtesy of the same guy.

[@Raiden6277]

Spoiler Alert: That’s not his last death yet.

[@kerravon4159]

"You should have stayed dead!" - Omiman.

[@jasonhavalar388]

I started to watch your video on this show, got 1 minute in and was like "oooh this looks good AND the awesome raging alcoholic likes it, im gonna go watch it" I wound up binging the whole season in 1 day, fell in love with it, and then came back watched your whole video and thought. " man i am i fucking glad i stopped at the minute mark."

[@CLove511]

Thank you for the recommendation, this is exactly what I've been missing. None of the Disneyfied MCU, just realistic violence, gritty topics, and fantastic animation/direction. I just hope it doesn't go the way of The Boys season 2, because both had an awesome first season.

[@makingtechsense126]

I almost stopped watching it because of Mark's girlfriend because she was such an unrealistic caricature of what a leftist thinks is a cool, empowered, seventeen-year-old.

[@Hobie02425]

If that's all it takes to stop watching, and that's your idea of caricatures, then you need to seriously do some self-reflection.

[@mrminecraftcubeable]

@@Hobie02425 she is a caricature tho, it's hilarious

[@Hobie02425]

@@mrminecraftcubeable yikes... that would make this channel a caricature as well. That word is being tossed around far too lightly these days.

[@DarranKern]

@@Hobie02425 good thing the rest of the show is that woke and derivative and he didnt miss a thing. All it takes is gore to impress capeshit fans

[@screamybingus707]

@@Hobie02425 or you have severe troubles handling other people's opinions. Maybe you're due for some self-reflection yourself?

[@ResidentTarantino]

Amber's voice actress is the only compliment Amber will ever get

[@p.a.4512]

and being a realistic presentation of an abusive girlfriend she is a shitty person but a good charecter (if this is indeed the diraction the writers are going with)

[@voin5371]

Hopefully the voice actress doesn't have to deal with any shit from the occasional retard who thinks the actor or actress that gives life to a character is indeed an exact carbon copy of a character in real life as they do on screen. Poor Kelly Marie.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Well, the voice actress is actually a nice person in real life and so far, I haven't heard any bad things from her. Hopefully, she didn't get bullied just because she's voicing Amber.

[@calvinbotha4859]

Invincible had me hooked from the moment I started watching! Thanks for such a fantastic summary and review!

[@OG_McLovin]

Blew me away how good this turned out to be. Here's to hoping that can keep this solid momentum going for 2 more seasons.

[@grahamgallacher4782]

Yeah, that "I know you're invincible" scene drove me up the fucking wall

[@RichardHardslab]

Drove most everyone up the wall. Really the only big fault of the show

[@Missjunebugfreak]

Same. Amber is an insufferable narcissist.

[@Galliao]

"I know you're Invincible and were out saving thousands of lives, but you missed volunteering with me at the soup kitchen! What kind of jerk does that?" I can't imagine a more toxic relationship.

[@HunterMearo]

@@Galliao having read the comic I can think of one. Although it's less of a relationship and more of a criminal action...

[@christopherross1309]

Yeah it turned out she’s a toxic c***.

[@jonathanbaker4361]

Additionally, this is a good way to do a "what if" series without shitting all over the canon of established characters you already know and love.

[@talentroller4413]

@@mablesfatalfable6021 you should really see episodes 3,4 and 5

[@anshulkarkera8911]

@@mablesfatalfable6021 only for the first 2 episodes tho the next three were good episode 4 being the best

[@margarethmichelina5146]

@@mablesfatalfable6021 Ever since episode 3, the show's getting darker and get more interesting especially the Doctor Strange episode. I found the pilot is too rushed and episode 2 is okay and better than episode 1 and then episode 3 is the moment when shits getting real.

[@dasher964]

@@margarethmichelina5146 strange episode waa really well made

[@RichSmithson]

@@mablesfatalfable6021 First episode was bad. 2nd episode was ok but just created IW/End Game plot holes (We were told only 1 reality didn't have Thanos use the snap and that was the MCU reality) except episode 2 shows a Thanos who has changed his mind. 3rd,4th and 5th episodes were really good. Episode 3 of What if is essentially Episode 1 of invincible.

[@thisguy8106]

"You Dad..... I'd still have you.." As a Father..that ripped my soul out of me.

[@pcssfc]

Something I really love from this show is that every episode had me worried for ever character because I genuinely thought anyone could die at any time (not mark) because of the ending of episode 1. That’s something I’ve never felt before when watching a superhero show and I’m so glad this show was able to give me that feeling, I never read the comics btw.

[@pomax1464]

Amber was a solid character in the comics, and it's a genuine shame that they felt the need to raceswap her and then destroy her entire character

[@heikira438]

Right!? It's not even the same character at all other than the name

[@Arkancide]

Agreed! Everytime Amber was on-screen it was a detriment for me and my gf. Largely because she was an annoying, egotistical Leftist. And in the comics she was a blond haired blue eyed woman. Blackwashing?

[@elmaionesosexo]

Maybe, just maybe they do something with her in the next seasons

[@justarandomdude5780]

I hope they make her white in the next season

[@supplesoup9186]

@@elmaionesosexo Based on the comics? No, they won't

[@RogueFox7050]

“Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power Billy!” -The Drinker after getting challenged to a drinking contest and is still standing after the 12th drink.

[@fenrirtheicewolf2019]

Damn right. XD

[@champ1159]

Facts lol

[@Psycorde]

"WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO THIS?!"

[@sirg-had8821]

Drinker: *Buuuuuuuuuuuuurrrp!!!* "Aye... Those first 12 dinae count."

[@anomitromukherjee5142]

Why didn't anyone talk about the music they used? The songs were absolute bangers and fits in perfectly!

[@briandowers9486]

Based on the Drinker’s recommendation I checked this out and wow. Hooked from episode 1.

[@StrangeCreed]

Pretty sure after a few semesters of those "social justice courses," Amber would shame and belittle Mark into giving her the ol' Viltrumite Handshake before calling up Thragg to greenlight the invasion.

[@madcapproductions7714]

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[@justyx846]

@Anoneemus Noename I did finish it. You made the smarter choice IMHO. All she did was make it unbelievable that he didn't choose Eve

[@gagalover2k10]

She was such an annoying little self entitled brat, I really hope she’s barely in the second season but it’s the times we live in so she’ll probably be there to belittle and talk down to every male character and end up gaining powers cuz Twitter leaving Mark a background character in his own show 🙄

[@ProxyDoug]

Amber doesn't gets enough shit for getting the boyfriend of Mark's gay friend (I'm bad with names) basically killed, even though she knew Mark was Invincible and his delays were justifiable.

[@madcapproductions7714]

ProxyDoug I KNOW RIGHT!? If Mark didn’t pursue Amber, Will’s bf would’ve been ok.

[@sumguy6686]

Not gonna lie. Teared up during the “dad” line during the last episode and seeing the remorse in Omni-Man’s face before flying off. The subtle tears being shed really nailed it.

[@rkosym]

I teared up at the end on how he fucking botched the comics just to start The walking dead. time travels .. infinite resurrection for EVe* omni man getting fucking rekt , Then we learn that Omni man is finaly the descendant of their old lost leader -_-. And I wont talk about Fucking rex storyline , Oh yeah and time travel Did I say Time travel ? cause there is a lot They had great Ideas, But the walking dead was getting bigger so they botched it hard.

[@bobnewfart7630]

@@rkosym Fk the Walking Dead

[@phutureproof]

Glad Ive seen it before reading this, coulda just put a spoiler warning and couple of line breaks mate

[@0neiros.]

@@rkosym He did mess up Invincible to make his own story that’s true. But TWD Comics are actually pretty enjoyable but it kinda got shitty during the end.

[@0neiros.]

@@bobnewfart7630 Nah TWD is cool

[@vbag42]

The very first fight between the "justice league" and the twins were leagues better then the shit that we have today from Marvel/DC. The guardians actually looked professionals lol

[@JeremyBX]

My only single problem with Invincible was that the animators forgot that skeletons exist. It took me out of the show only a little bit.

[@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro]

I’m personally not a fan of that type of animation style, because it’s very stilted, robotic, and stiff. I get what you mean

[@zacharybruce4951]

Drinker: ".....physical force is the only option left." Also Drinker: "this loosely mirrors what real parenting is like". Well, I guess we know why he drinks so much.

[@NoPantsBaby]

Can't dish out a proper beating sober.

[@dan8402]

As a father of ten, I agree with drinking to much!

[@regularfather4708]

I have had to use my oldest as a weapon to murder a train full of commuters, and I expect that I will have to do it for my other two kids before long. A father's job is tough at times, but we do it for the betterment of our children.

[@ReturnOfHeresy]

"...physical force is the only option left" for controlling your older children, the other option is to not demand that level of obedience.

[@vcrbetamax]

I think in Scotland, beating your kids is a sign of affection.

[@TheFatMob]

*Drinker:* lists the voice actors for the show. *Walton Goggins:* "Am I a joke to you?!"

[@snuke37]

Yeah, I was about to post about Goggins. He does a great job.

[@glendarjj3991]

Goggins is an underrated legend. Boyd in justified is one of my favourite characters from a TV show.

[@kenstrumpf909]

@@glendarjj3991 Fun fact about Boyd. He was supposed to die in the pilot for Justified but Walton Goggin’s performance was so great that they rewrote the story to keep him in it.

[@glendarjj3991]

@@kenstrumpf909 wow I never knew that. To be fair he does get shot in the chest lmao. Its just like how they were going to kill off jesse in breaking bad but kept him because of aaron Paul's performance. And he's a fan favourite character too. It's crazy to think of an alternate reality where these beloved characters were killed. Justified and breaking bad wouldn't be the shows they are now without these characters.

[@Saint_Wolf_]

Mahershalla Ali as Titan!

[@mkm7251]

When I watched this show, I decided I would just watch the first episode, see what it’s about. I went from watching the first episode to watching the whole thing in one night.

[@improv6132]

Solid recommendation as always good sir. I binge watched the entire first season as was 100% hooked from the end of the first episode onward.

[@adhirg]

I think Walton Goggin’s performance as Cecil is my favorite part of this series so far. also the auto-tuned voice of Machinehead is hilarious. I love this show.

[@hyethga]

Machinehead’s voice reminds me of GlaDOS.

[@jaydawg7]

Machinehead was by the same guy that was the main character on "Burn Notice"

[@eMeSCZ]

@@jaydawg7 I love Burn Notice, pretty good show 👍

[@StarkillerObl]

I also like it very much and He's so far away from Boyd Crowder (Justified) that it's really incredible!

[@GibsonReal]

“I can keep doing what I’ve been doing ever since I found you’re a lying piece of shit… I can buy us a little more time.” Fucking perfect

[@r.a.7161]

"The cinematic equivalent of watching someone murder your best friend." Fucking LOL

[@a.z.pantera5577]

Given how beloved Black Widow was as a character, that's not too far off the mark...

[@thesuperintendent4290]

That's exactly how I reacted to the Last Jedi, Halo 5, COD Ghosts and more...

[@Brendito1]

I took your recommendation to heart, it’s AMAZING

[@skinz8033]

Thank you so much for introducing me to this, not really into this kind of thing but this is sooooo good. A must watch.

[@genelearnsenglish4242]

I love how the series portraits gore. Most stories just uses it just to shock the viewer, but here the characters themselves are shocked and terrified by brutality around them. They are not super warriors that don't blink when someone gets ripped apart like in Mortal Kombat - despite their powers, they're still vulnerable humans.

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

Yeah, from the first death the show sets the tone really well. I think only once a character’s death is played for laughs, when Immortal throws that guy into space and in the later episode we see his body just floating there.

[@calummacritchie7840]

I find a similar technique in the 5th season of Samurai Jack. Blood was hardly ever shown throughout the whole series yet when it does appear, its genuinely shocking. More shocking when the occurrence is few and far between instead of being so excessive, audiences get numb to it.

[@MrFallenone]

Funny how in an animated show like Invincible gore disturbs me way more than in something like the Boys. Especially the War Womans death ... like fuckkkkk

[@thekiller7994]

@@MrFallenone what about Red Rush’s death?

[@dembro27]

Yeah, but it's a cartoon, so - like Mortal Kombat - it's clearly ridiculous and over the top, making it almost silly in my eyes. Thus, if the characters are meant to be relatable and "real", they need to react with the horror and trauma that I can't, because I know it's an exaggerated animation. Interesting juxtaposition.

[@rusted_mariner1741]

The only problem I had with the show was amber being unreasonable in her relationship with mark

[@Fargoth_Ur]

Her being unreasonable and unlikable honestly isn't the issue. Nothing wrong with a side-character who's not a great person. It's the fact that the show acts as though _she's in the right._

[@sivad1025]

@@Fargoth_Ur Ugh, yes. The problem for me is that the show wants me to believe that Mark wants to be with her instead of Atom Eve who is way more likeable and a much better friend to him. Why did he even bother with Amber?

[@rickyrayrosenberg420]

@@sivad1025 For Twitter likes.

[@shannonpincombe8485]

Reality....she's like most women in a relationship. "I want you like...this...now, change or I'll break your will with my constant belittling." Why can't women just love guys for who they are? No! Change for ME!!!! I'M IMPORTANT!!! Hahahahaha!

[@margarethmichelina5146]

And the fact they blackwashing her is just make it worse. Why did they need to do that?

[@micheleshearin4688]

Man just want to give you about greal big THANK YOU for this recommendation. We are so enjoying this series.

[@madbowler6]

Agree completely, drinker. I knew nothing about the show going into it, just sort of rolled the dice and watched the first episode and quickly fell in love with it. Wound up watching the entire first season twice. Can’t wait for season two.

[@kyledougherty2823]

You can tell he really liked this show because his whole “go away now” at the end sounded nicer

[@kaizokujimbei143]

He was less inebriated this time around.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

The only problem that he got is Amber and yes, no one like Amber.

[@TylerInTraining]

It was a "Go away and check this show out" kind of sign-off.

[@velnoa]

Although it’s been memed to hell and back, the “Think Mark” moment is one of my favourite in the series and the superhero genre in general. Show is amazing, just wish we had less Amber

[@rarefox]

In the original comic the Amber character is nothing like the one in the show.

[@onegonearm]

@@rarefox I actually had to go back and read my issues with her in them to see if it was the same character, but you gotta pander to Daddy Bezos or no show for you !

[@JohnMiller-zr8pl]

Less wokeness

[@sivad1025]

It's funny how she is universally the least liked aspect of the show. You'd think writers would clue in and stop trying to push that character type

[@Tyler_W]

@Orc-88 potential spoilers, but if they go the route of the comics, I'll be fascinated to see how they use this version of Amber differently in the domestic abuse subplot. If nothing else, it'll make Mark look that much better since the two of them will definitely break up again due to how unreasonable she is.

[@theultimatep1e40]

what i also love is that it has a consistent and well thought out power system and showcases of those powers and how they can be used and improved

[@weedeater64]

Just started watching after seeing your video. Before the show even begins, I love the fact that the trigger warning is about flashing light seizures and not about the gore. This gonna be good.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Let's be honest: everything about this show is perfection. Except Amber.

[@ironangel667]

I could go without the blatant gay sexual connotations.

[@MASHo1992]

It could do with less blood. As someone said, when it's always a "bloody fight" then they all are just "fights".

[@DanWeeks]

Fatal flaw.

[@metaf4]

To be blunt and honest.....she's exactly what the show needed...a blunt reality of how some people really think/act/behave in the REAL world. It actually wouldn't be "perfect" if she wasn't there. It would just be a perfect fantasy of what we want. And in reality....what we "want" is never guaranteed.

[@cruisemaster1537]

@@metaf4 agreed , she is there for a reason .

[@DomozoveoGZ]

Vernon Schillinger: I'm the most violent JK Simmons character Omni-Man: hold my train

[@natethegr8230]

Ha ha...Oz Not many get that reference I'm sure.

[@Isthislife2135]

Is the movie called oz? Now I want to see it.

[@jasonmacomber4020]

It's an HBO show about prison.

[@duffthimblespork8371]

Yeah but did he throw a chair at anyone's head?

[@andyknightwarden9746]

Vernon: "...How does one hold a train?" Omni-man: *grabs Vernon by the back of his head* "Like this." *Train approaches*

[@InMaTeofDeath]

Sounds like the drinker may have been a bit too tipsy to realize just how bad the Amber situation was. I recommend searching youtube for the video "The Real Problem With Amber (Invincible Analysis)" for a great breakdown of how they screwed her up. Other than her character though I loved the show.

[@killermcgiller665]

“Maintain his secret identity and live something approaching normal life” - I’d like to hear your thoughts on Spider-Man 2 (2004) as I feel that it explores this aspect of the super hero genre better than most. Will definitely check out Invincible, thanks for the recommendation.

[@Haterator]

Drinker: "Go away now." Omni Man: *flies off*

[@burnout02urza]

Amber is really fucking awful. And she didn't need to be, she was a perfectly supportive and rather cute blonde college chick in the original comic. I hope they don't make any more changes, holy shit.

[@Aredel]

On the contrary. I think they could actually fix the character they have now by making her bitching, controlling and manipulative nature intentional. Invincible was always good at breaking common stereotypes and misconceptions of gender roles in the comics. Here lies a prime opportunity for him to learn his own self worth and dump Amber so he can move on to a healthy relationship.

[@Gaia_Gaistar]

Wasn't she a dumbass in the comics who started dating an abusive guy who slapped her around while she made excuses for him?

[@pupper9474]

@@Aredel He won't do that.

[@christianclark347]

@@Gaia_Gaistar It only happened once that we saw and the guy actually did turn around and never do it again after getting spanked for it. But they split before that. They mutually grew apart very believably while she was at college getting egged on to cheat by her girlfriends and Mark being swamped with world-saving hero work. As far as we know she didn't actually cheat but her behavior was very questionable and Mark had been growing closer to, uh, well, somebody else, too. So they both had fault, I suppose.

[@christianclark347]

@@Aredel I hope so. I'm worried they'll try to spin Mark being uncomfortable with Amber "studying" one-on-one with dudes in her dorm room in the middle of the night as his own utterly unfounded insecurity and try to say that he just needs to have faith in his GF, but hopefully not. And hopefully they show them growing apart while pursuing different paths (an all-too-lifelike scenario) ands that's all the more it really needs to justify a split.

[@sminthian]

This is one of the few shows lately that I can watch several times, and then want to watch it again.

[@gothicrabbit1984]

One of the best superhero series I have ever scene! My husband and I watched it in a week and haven’t stopped talking about it. The violence, the artwork, the character arks and general mystery to what motivated Omniman was so well written. We can’t wait for the next seasons!

[@dlbutters7164]

Another thing that made me love this series even more, it's that Omini-Man in episode 08 showed us now what Zod could and would have done to innocent people if Superman hadn't killed him in Man of Steel, thus finally proving Superman right.

[@encryptedwolf7623]

FACTS!!!!

[@MrFallenone]

Dont you fucking dare talk about that trash movie. Zod had every right to slaughter earth. Superman genocided all of krypton with an excuse that they "had their chance"

[@grandarkfang_1482]

@@MrFallenone Viltrum had their chance!

[@matthewpatrick7263]

I'll never understand why people criticize the moment Superman snaps Zod's neck in that movie. He didn't even know about kryptonite, so there was no prison that could hold him. On the other hand, in Superman 2 with Christopher Reeve, he took away the 3 kryptonians' powers and then killed the non-powered Zod while Lois killed the non-powered woman (the 3rd was an idiot who killed himself). They actually could have gone to prison.

[@nickbutcher760]

@@matthewpatrick7263 and AND they SMILED about it smh

[@JM-vp8zc]

“You’ve got to do better Drinker.” More holes than a Ukrainian step club. Mission accomplished.

[@JazzyUnderscoreTrumpeter]

My girl's Ukrainian, lol

[@theprotagonist1311]

What does More Holes than a Ukrainian Step Club mean?

[@soyuzdavillan721]

@@theprotagonist1311 I'm fairly sure strip club is what is meant here

[@robertdevito5001]

@@theprotagonist1311 how much do you like stairs?

[@insane_troll]

@@theprotagonist1311 A step club is a club of people who race up the stairs on buildings.

[@Yashaanzm90]

So glad you enjoyed this show dude!! Most of us on here share your exact thoughts. And yeah Amber isn't written all that well. Her character doesn't make sense. Definitely feels forced at times.