The Drums of Pearl Jam's "Even Flow": 1991 vs. 2009 | What's That Sound? EP 48

[@ShakyVertex]

as a switch up, id love an episode on the drum sound on a song from Loveless. specifically the sampling of the kit and how it was treated after being programmed. would be a fun new technique to try

[@Bloor005]

I prefer the 91 mix myself. It just hit harder for me as a teen.

[@kerzwhile]

Agree! 😉

[@TheMockLove]

It has more character IMO, even if it's "dated"

[@Bloor005]

@@TheMockLove that and the industrial movement still influence my own mixes. But I'm old haha!

[@rome8180]

Same. I prefer the sense of space in that mix.

[@maxmeier532]

that drummer, forgot his name, was just on another level, him on unplugged, especially on Jeremy, was one of the best performances I have seen.

[@capybarent]

please make a video about Joy Division’s drum sound

[@benmills9411]

Disorder

[@Bloor005]

@@benmills9411 Synare drums. Early E drums.

[@codymcgrew94]

Highly agree

[@joshua.vonkampen]

I had this exact thought before opening the video and seeing your comment.

[@benmills9411]

@@Bloor005 isn’t the e drums/synare sound more for she’s lost control ?

[@rome8180]

I prefer the original mix. It's okay for something not to sound "modern." In my opinion, terminology like that shouldn't even be used when talking about mixes because it put things in sonic boxes and implies that something has to sound a certain way to be commercially viable in the modern era.

[@keithmoran8004]

I remember hearing Evenflow the first time through MTV and loving it. Then getting the album and hating the sound comparatively. Realized later the track from the video was completely different than the album

[@MB-pc4cs]

The best mix is the live version of Even Flow video from the 90's. Dave. Honestly, it's the best groove and really the best version of that song, period.. It's better than the 91 studio recording. That's not opinion. That is the best you ever hear Even Flow.

[@pearljamarias6740]

is true the oficiall video es the best recording... wit dave abrruzzeze

[@MB-pc4cs]

@@pearljamarias6740 this is one of those songs you don't mess with

[@paulyjones3966]

True 👍 facts😊

[@PeteGunnShow]

the 2009 one doesnt feel as full, but the snare sounds so much better to me, i would replace the 91 snare with the 09 one and call it a day

[@GloveBunniesVideos]

Fantastic as always. Thanks so much!

[@sovietcomrade4970]

2009 mix is a bit overcompressed. Everything is way too in the front. 91 Breathes and sounds more natural.

[@rome8180]

I agree. I also think the fact that the '91 mix uses more reverb helps push some elements to the back and create a sense of depth.

[@kristdelgado]

Once I saw an interview with Slash and he said something really true: Everything sounds really different when it's recorded on tape. More natural and real. When it's recorded with computers, everything seems not performed by you. There's a very different sound...

[@vlkiller]

I would have liked to hear a back to back drum playthrough for both verse and chorus so the drum mixes could be better analysed one to one.

[@everpuremusic]

Me too. I had to switch back and forth between the two sections in the video to clearly hear the difference. Once you do that, it is very obvious, though!

[@rinosphere]

great discussion of the modern sound/mix

[@ffrjegs08]

You Only Live Once by The Strokes, track 1 from First Impressions of Earth (or any single off that album really) would be a cool one. that percussion "clink" in the intro and verse would be fun to recreate, and there's all sorts of saturation happening on The Strokes' sound. I usually clamp a glass bottle of some kind to get that clink 😗

[@Andyanddiana467]

With the overheads, is the hat mic necessary? And how do you prevent phase issues with so many mics?

[@scottrohwein82]

I know the person that currently owns the actual snare drum used on the PJ ten sessions. it was an amber colored, solid ply maple Noble & Cooley 14x5 that was a rental from the SIR company die cast hoops its a helluva snare & was used on other notable recordings

[@paulyjones3966]

N&C have awesome kits 👌

[@brandonsaurber3564]

Love these videos! Would love to see a White Stripes video! Maybe Elephant era.

[@m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n]

hi noam and jess i love this series. could you do a dead weather one sometime? there just seems to be so much gloss and dimension to them while still being rocky and i cant get close to this sound in my own engineering.. as soon as i get into the rock area i lose the dimension! thanks so much angels

[@ryanchristophernunes5005]

Amazing - what tune bot settings are those drums? Love them.

[@jaltsch1]

Is the sample also in the Brendan O’Brien mix?

[@happysunbean]

I'd love this format for the Beatles remixes

[@NielsNielsen-q3g]

Please please go over ”Soul meets body” by Death Cab For Cutie! Drums on that records sounds sooo good!

[@josephpatania5293]

The drums on Blue Jay Way by the Beatles

[@joermnyc]

Be curious to hear In Utero era Nirvana, like “Scentless Apprentice” (especially as the album version has the drums fighting against a very loud fuzzed up guitar and Kurt screaming his head off in the chorus).

[@mirkomarkovic3438]

You can listen to it

[@AllegraG66]

Hey, Reverb. It would be cool a recreation of Tonto by Battles, the really high cymbals, and the big ass kick made em a hard one. But i know it would be funny xoxo

[@kevinbullock9443]

That isn't a Supralite.

[@algon1985]

I’d love to see a comparison of Lars black and white drum kit from the justice/black album era vs his set up now.

[@_andreleo_]

Autolux - Turnstile Blues, please :) Thanks for all the videos x

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

The problem with the modern mix is that the compression on the whole kit really hypes and crushes those cymbals. That doesn't sound natural to me. They lose clarity and they sound hissy and brittle. Sure the 91 version sounds like 1991 but then that's part of the joy of listening to something from that time. It's like trying to remaster Ultravox but getting rid of the synths.

[@adam872]

I think I prefer the 1991 mix, especially the snare.

[@paulyjones3966]

91 , original and specifically with Dave A , just an unbelievably great drummer and they've never been the same since eds ego got him fired , fuckin sad .

[@c03x157]

Excelente

[@Circadianarrhythmia]

You should absolutely do one on carl palmer

[@JackNiles]

Don’t you mean Supraphonic?

[@justhadrums]

Needs a slightly heavier quarter note pulse feel (to be picky)

[@maggsvamp]

a Brendan O'Brian diss video?

[@avesnabla8801]

Please recreate the drum sound on Broadcast - Haha Sound.

[@sword-and-shield]

A snare not on "Crack" lacks energy, the snare on crack is what brings or carries the energy. Now if you, or the song, do not want the snare bringing or carrying the energy, then do what the other 80% are doing....biased old school Hardcore drummer.

[@paulyjones3966]

Most snares I hear on alot of recordings these days sound dead and flat

[@sword-and-shield]

@@paulyjones3966 Yeah, that is from the CRUSH of the dynamic range. Always kills the crack, unless you focus on it having to much crack from the get, which no one does, then sometimes the limiting will bring in the missing body. But you nailed it with everything theses days, in fact I rarely hear a tune where the snare is bringing the energy in the tune.

[@Uroboros663]

Please do the American Idiot Drums Sound!

[@WhyTheHorseface]

I know that the drum tech on that album was The Sack Mike Fasano, and he used Pork Pie drums. FWIW

[@cameronvillarrealLp]

Joy divisions drums

[@paulyjones3966]

Fuck style 😎, the 90s sound kicked ass . The weak flat dead crap or zero drummer or algorithms i often hear today are just boring as f

[@sezyum]

Çalana bakar.