The Drydock - Episode 093

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Drachinifel

Drachinifel

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@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 4 жыл бұрын
Pinned post for Q&A ::) (Also, Chapters seem to be working!)
@Jodonho
@Jodonho 4 жыл бұрын
What could the Japanese military have achieved in World War II if the IJN cooperated with the IJA?
@bjturon
@bjturon 4 жыл бұрын
How did they clean and load a large MLR gun on a broadside or central battery ironclad, given the short distance between the gun port and muzzle of the gun?
@darrellsmith4204
@darrellsmith4204 4 жыл бұрын
Which of the following naval gunnery developments was the biggest "game changer"- explosive shells, rifling, breech loading or the turret?
@eddierudolph7694
@eddierudolph7694 4 жыл бұрын
Who would have replaced Admiral Betty if he was removed, died, or dissappeared in 1914 just before the war breaking out. What was the Royal Navy opinion of the Spanish Navy and the quality of their officers and sailors during Napoleonic wars?
@jeffrey8847
@jeffrey8847 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Drachinifel As the Tirpitz was sinking, the captain refused to give the order to abandon ship because of his belief that the vessel would just bottom out, not knowing that he was far deeper than he realized and the effects the booming had left on the sea bottom but, what do you think would have happened if the captain was right. Would the germans write off the ships as a lost case or keep trying to save the ship?
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 4 жыл бұрын
After hearing how much time you put into these, I have to commend you for putting in this much time. And even that is a total understatement, your videos are fantastic and so well researched. I already thought the amount of videos you put out where a lot, I had never thought that they would take that much extra to put them together!
@iankerridge5720
@iankerridge5720 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Drach, you got a mention in the last Chieftain Q & A. He referenced your 5 hour marathon Drydocks, and how hard it was on his voice in a 1 hour+ video he'd just done.
@dropdead234
@dropdead234 4 жыл бұрын
An Irishman, complementing a Brit. ...What has the world come to!?
@ricardobimblesticks1489
@ricardobimblesticks1489 4 жыл бұрын
@@dropdead234 Dogs and cats living together...Mass hysteria :D
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican 4 жыл бұрын
dropdead234 - Sounds like a “Sign of the Apocalypse”...
@murderouskitten2577
@murderouskitten2577 4 жыл бұрын
The new time stamps on the video players timeline are SUPERB :) Thank you Drach :)
@scottdrone-silvers5179
@scottdrone-silvers5179 4 жыл бұрын
Drach - I heartily agree on your plans for “retooling” the Drydock, etc. You need to have a life outside of providing KZbin content for us; there is no end to demand on our part, and we will be here waiting, have no fear. As to coming across the pond, I would strongly advise that you hold off until 2021. The medical opinion seems to be pretty solid on a second wave of an outbreak not being a matter of if, but when. It will most likely be this Fall, but you never know.
@chemputer
@chemputer 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the first wave has to end (or else drastically reduce) first for it to be a second wave. But yes, I completely second this. The UK isn't doing much better at the moment, either, so just everybody stay safe.
@Hypocrite-ical
@Hypocrite-ical 4 жыл бұрын
Scott's right - the ships aren't going anywhere.
@rossbrook5919
@rossbrook5919 4 жыл бұрын
The drydocks are absolutely excellent been a privilegde to listen to every min for them all
@cogidubnus1953
@cogidubnus1953 4 жыл бұрын
1914 would've held one huge British advantage for a Jutland-style battle: Beatty was still only a Rear Admiral.
@sawyerawr5783
@sawyerawr5783 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@BokoDisraeli
@BokoDisraeli 4 жыл бұрын
20:48 Never trust a defense contractor with a powerpoint and the willingness to use it.
@thomaszinser8714
@thomaszinser8714 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, you could probably cut this down to Never trust a defense contractor and still have it be accurate, but yeah, you're definitely not wrong.
@USS_Grey_Ghost
@USS_Grey_Ghost 4 жыл бұрын
R/TechnicallyTheTruth
@dropdead234
@dropdead234 4 жыл бұрын
DeAth, By PoWeRpOiNt. "I'll sign, I'll sign! Just STOP WITH THE MONOTONE!!!"
@johnstrachan69
@johnstrachan69 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing how much time you take for these Drydock sessions. I figured that it took a while and it shows your dedication.
@allothernameswerenot
@allothernameswerenot 4 жыл бұрын
Long drydocks were marvelous. I can honestly say that in recent months even without lockdown in place I've spent more time listening to Drach than to real, living people.
@MrTScolaro
@MrTScolaro 3 жыл бұрын
You and Ryan of Battleship New Jersey should organize a tour with some cost to support the museum. Having an in-depth tour with the two of you would be something that I would show up for and pay for.
@williamharvey8895
@williamharvey8895 4 жыл бұрын
Odd, not many people watch the drydocks? It was the drydocks that got me addicted to this channel.
@kevinturner1943
@kevinturner1943 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel. I like how you explain your research process. Gives the information much more credibility (as a Historian myself, I have yet to find any glaring inaccuracies. Good job!).
@geoffreymowbray6789
@geoffreymowbray6789 4 жыл бұрын
Pre-1914 battlecruisers resulted in the need to construction of new dry docks and other repair facilities. An example of this was the 'King's Dock' (also known as the 'Dreadnought Dock'), Kepple Harbour at Singapore. With the addition of anti torpedo bulges meant that refitted capital ship had too much beam to be dry docked out east. This resulted with the great floating dock that was towed out from UK to Singapore. The 'King's Dock' was then transferred to the Singapore Harbour Board for commercial use and dock dock some very large passenger liners.
@iansadler4309
@iansadler4309 4 жыл бұрын
Often overlooked by those who suggest RN build absurdly large battleships - where could they be drydocked? (Plus could they get into the Fleet bases? They had to dredge Portsmouth channels for QE/PoW )
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 4 жыл бұрын
Back to the hour, or so, format. A Drydock I can watch in one sitting.
@Moredread25
@Moredread25 4 жыл бұрын
There are three approaches to resolving the Patreon Q&A conundrum which occur to me. 1. Make the pay level to ask questions higher. 2. Only take Patreon questions. 3. Cull the questions to only take the best ones which you could answer in a period of time (one or two hours).
@chemputer
@chemputer 4 жыл бұрын
I think the hard time limit (with a handful of rare exceptions) is a great idea. I think that should also be clear that you apply to the ENTIRE question, even if it's got 4 parts, that those 4 parts have to fit within 5 minutes. Yeah, since they walked back their walking back of lockdown restrictions(obviously since you recorded this), and the fact that the US is just crazy and continually rising, put it off until 2021.
@InternationalAcres
@InternationalAcres 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Drach! Good for you on limiting the length of the dry docks! I personally like them because I listen to them while I work. I was getting worried that you might burn yourself out. Most of us here love the content and would rather settle with less content in exchange for having you around for the years to come.
@JohnSmith-kg2rt
@JohnSmith-kg2rt 4 жыл бұрын
I actually like the longer ones
@CheechNoChong-mb6wp
@CheechNoChong-mb6wp 3 жыл бұрын
I watch/listen to Drydocks more than any other podcast, you tube, video anything! Love them.
@PaulfromChicago
@PaulfromChicago 4 жыл бұрын
If the High Seas Fleet came out in December, 1914, they stood a very good chance, maybe better than even. The battlecruiser force was diminished due to foreign assignments, Audacious had just sunk, and a bunch of British ships were worn out from cruising constantly without Scapa Flow being completed yet.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 4 жыл бұрын
That would be a very interesting scenario, especially with regard to what happens to the rest of the war going forward. If the High Seas Fleet did win, though, national pride would dictate that Britain *must* remain in the war no matter what. Such a shocking defeat would have to be avenged, or else no one would the Royal Navy anymore.
@epicface94
@epicface94 4 жыл бұрын
But as Drach said, Friedrich Ingenohl on command would never have risked as much as necessary to enable such a decisive engagement, and if he had he probably wouldn't have been up to the task anyway.
@PaulfromChicago
@PaulfromChicago 4 жыл бұрын
@@epicface94 Agreed. The Germans didn't see their fleet as an instrument of policy. It was essentially the Kaiser's bathtub toy, particularly in 1914.
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 4 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent Cruiser Action compared to the decisive Drydock Grand fleet Action of last week.
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always Drach. Always love your work. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos. As far as the H class battleships, it would be interesting to see one of them named Berlichingen. A German hero but with no connection to the party in power. With your America trip, definitely hope you can make it here. Would be fantastic to have you visit some of the amazing ships we have in America. And the meet up, Q@A would be great too. And they put a U Boat in Munich to try and restrain its natural aggression, desire to go to sea and hunt down random hapless merchant ships.
@MakeMeThinkAgain
@MakeMeThinkAgain 4 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but I think you may have misunderstood the question about IJN vs USN repairs in theater. The USN kept moving forward drydock and other facilities until they reached Ulithi so that relatively substantial repairs could be done in theater or at least ships could be patched up to make the trip to home ports less exciting. I imagine the IJN must have had some facilities at Truk and Rabaul, and they certainly had facilities at Singapore, but I'm not aware of their having other forwardly positioned repair facilities. Talking about re-armoring that Italian BB design, my first question is why are the guns spaced out so far? If they were spaced normally you would need much less armor.
@bjturon
@bjturon 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the Drydock, fully understand changes that need to be made. Only can watch all these KZbin videos because I’m at home without a job or place to go. Concerning the Bismarck, its stability, and its gunnery, now I know what an easy roll means in warship design and performance. I would NOT plan on a trip to America anytime soon, with New York State taken out of the equation the number of daily COVID-19 cases is on a steady upward slope. There are now even cases popping up within the White House. For all the political talk of “reopening” the country, the pandemic by all scientific accounts is spreading with a steady death toll that in total numbers of dead exceeds the US Military losses from the Vietnam War. Business is very bad in the US, there is now expected to be widespread failure of companies both large and small, with accompanying permanent job losses, with unemployment going through till the end of the year on a level not seen since the depths of the Great Depression in 1932. Unemployment is in the high teens right now, but those numbers are a few weeks behind, and don’t include me. I lost my hotel job in March, about the last one to be let go. I had a few weeks of holiday pay, so after I burned that I applied for unemployment insurance. I got a letter informing me this week that I lost my healthcare insurance (not that it was much good anyways), so I’ll have to see if I can sign up for the ACA public exchange, which the Trump Administration is suing in federal court to deep-six, with a Supreme Court ruling expected this year. With most American’s healthcare tied to their private employers, thee are now many tens of millions who are without coverage. To be honestly, for the young and fit, now would be a great time to join the US Navy, Marine Corp, or Coast Guard. You get food, healthcare, lodging, and an occasional change of scenery.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 4 жыл бұрын
I'd advise any foreigners to stay out of the US until a COVID-19 vaccine is developed, basically.
@davidmcintyre8145
@davidmcintyre8145 4 жыл бұрын
My educated guess is that there will be almost no international travel for non essential purposes for at least 18 months,though admittedly Drach going to the USA is definitely essential
@Islander0711
@Islander0711 4 жыл бұрын
@EFEZZE6280 Orange man is moron, as are all of his opponents. What a commentary of the quality of politicians we have.
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican 4 жыл бұрын
David Anderson - I was watching a French Doctor’s presentation that included his answer to a question about the “Yellow Vests” demonstration - He stated that politicians from both parties & the media covering them were all CLUELESS!
@misterjag
@misterjag 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of new cases, NY State appears to have succeeded in bending the curve. But cases are ramping up in states like Georgia, where the governor has been aggressive about re-opening businesses.
@DriveI65
@DriveI65 4 жыл бұрын
You should review the record of the USS Vestal (AR-4). Its battle repair record in WW2 is most impressive and would have been a better example for the question about damage repair. I served on the USS Cadmus (AR-14) and never had an appreciation of the scope of work that a repair ship could accomplish.
@billbrockman779
@billbrockman779 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you’re able to make your trip to America, because that will mean better days for all.
@bjturon
@bjturon 4 жыл бұрын
If your in the New York State area, see about visiting the USS Slater, a destroyer escort from WWII that is tied up on the waterfront in Downtown Albany, across the river from the Albany-Rensselaer Rail Station. As part of the Greek Navy it had a very small role in the 1950s film "The Guns of Navarone". kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2itXnVjfc6elck
@bjturon
@bjturon 4 жыл бұрын
Buffalo NY has a guided missile cruiser, a destroyer, a submarine, and a PT boat tied up in its downtown veterans museum. Its a long train ride from New York City, but the rail station and several new hotels are just a short walk away from the ships. I got to see the the USS Little Rock with its string of electric lights string from bow to stern early one morning waiting for a train. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpOaiK2abb-Lf80
@pierowmania2775
@pierowmania2775 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjturon My grandmother donated a bit to the USS Slater.
@MrFb911
@MrFb911 4 жыл бұрын
great portrait of Admiral Sturdee!
@disbeafakename167
@disbeafakename167 4 жыл бұрын
"Super-Duper-Dreadnaught" sounds awesome.
@Wolfeson28
@Wolfeson28 4 жыл бұрын
"Increase in title?" "Fine, FINE, you're Super-Duper-Dreadnought." "That's all I ever wanted." Anyone who knows this reference, tell me you weren't instantly thinking it. :)
@ebonymercury6701
@ebonymercury6701 3 жыл бұрын
Drydock is the most interesting thing on KZbin hands down.
@whiskeytangosierra6
@whiskeytangosierra6 4 жыл бұрын
Initially I did not watch the Drydocks. Then I did on a rainy, cold day. After that I basically binge watched them until I was caught up. Folks who don't watch them are really missing out. I applaud the idea of moving the fantasy questions to the live streams.
@EzilfromPL
@EzilfromPL 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for time and work you put in your Chanel. I love your channel and your content.
@stevevalley7835
@stevevalley7835 4 жыл бұрын
Italian battleships, fascinating topic. The Washington treaty allocated the same tonnage to Italy and France, but the list of ships retained, while having both over their 175kt quota, allowed nearly 40kt more to France. Both retention lists included several pre-dreadnoughts. Hypothetically, lets assume the RM decided to help fund construction of Caracciolo and Colombo, as the two on which significant progress had been made, by an aggressive scrappage program of everything older than the Cavours and abandonment of the attempted salvage of da Vinci, immediately after the war. Neither ship would have been completed at the time of the treaty, however, only having 4 BBs in commission, Italy would cry a river that it was vastly short of it's allowed tonnage, and, as the new BBs were under the 35kt treaty limit, work would be allowed to proceed. Meanwhile, the drawings for the class would be retained, and updated periodically. in anticipation of the new construction as allowed under the treaty, with Colonna being laid down in 27 and Morosini laid down in 29, with the Cavours and Andrea Dorias scrapped, rather than rebuilt, with the funds thus made available used to update the Caracciolos and Colonnas to the latest late 30s standard and expedite construction of the Littorios. Very potent force of fast, modern, ships, only needing fuel and leadership to create havoc for the RN in the Med.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta think outside the Admiral box for naming KM Schlachtschiffe. How about Mucke (der Emden)? Or Gustav Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach? KMS Geli Raubal might heal some wounds . . . or not. I would love to see a der Grosser Goering. So fitting in both languages. And leave us not forget Kapitänleutnant (Captain Lieutenant) Otto Hersing, or even, Germany's greatest naval hero: Beatty.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 4 жыл бұрын
No Hans Langdorff?
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS Hehehe good one m8.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
Died with his boots on . . . and his sword. And his dress uniform.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
High Rollers? Unholy Rollers? Look no farther than good old Owasco. At 2000 tons she and her class could not stay in convoy, because, to turn a phrase, "that's not how I roll."
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
And that Italian Superdreadnought is Peeyew! More Y turret forward, move B turret forward, too and lattice the area before the citadel with light AA. Leave the fantail bare--that's where the extra armor should go. Using a turret to protect the engines and steering seems cool, until you realize you are also protecting them with that turret's magazines. Don't you just "love it when things go Ka-Blooey"?
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 4 жыл бұрын
With ship size, you do have to Consider the Panama Canal. Also access to the Naval Yards like Philadelphia, Brooklyn and Mare Island. You have bridges and shallow river channels to navigate.
@AtomicBabel
@AtomicBabel 4 жыл бұрын
It's also funny how eventually there were 2 Verrazano Bridges to navigate under. One in NY harbor, the other in Newport Rhode Island.
@JasperKlijndijk
@JasperKlijndijk 3 жыл бұрын
Drydock is one of the best things on youtube
@bradleyjames1340
@bradleyjames1340 4 жыл бұрын
Good choice separating out alternate history questions. As a mere recreational student of history, these questions are a bit exhausting for me. Not all, but many. You do a fine job answering them, I just don't care what would maybe have happened if Nelson had been in charge of the Polish free navy in WW2 whilst armed with plasma cannons that they found in a Stargate aboard an adrift abandoned Barbary pirate schooner. Or
@TheKingofbrooklin
@TheKingofbrooklin 4 жыл бұрын
About the names of the H-39. Proposed names were Götz von Berlichingen and Ulrich von Hutten. Big names from renaissance ages.
@UnintentionalSubmarine
@UnintentionalSubmarine 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot an umlaut there. But yes those two names have been floated a fair few times.
@wolfsoldner9029
@wolfsoldner9029 4 жыл бұрын
@@moritamikamikara3879 Idiot !
@jerry2357
@jerry2357 4 жыл бұрын
A couple of brief comments about European travel plans: The U1 in Munich is small, and is a relatively small exhibit in the basement of a large national museum of technology (which incidentally has two other branches in the Munich area, one dedicated to transport and the other, at a historic old airfield, to aircraft). If you’re interested in technology in general, the main branch of the Deutsches Museum will take the best part of a day to see, and the other two branches a few hours each. A few years ago I visited Tallinn in Estonia, and one part of their maritime museum is housed in old seaplane hangers. This includes a British-built submarine that was used by Estonia before WWII. I thought that this was definitely worth visiting if you’re in the area.
@briannicholas2757
@briannicholas2757 4 жыл бұрын
Q&A. PLEASE Hi there Drach, I really enjoy your videos, and although I have yet to work my way through all of them, I have yet to see any on the great liners, like Queen Mary, or the various liners turned into hospital ships. I'd like to see a video on the service of Queen Mary and the hospital ships. And , as an American from Maine, I'd really enjoy to see a video on The Maine. I've always had a great fascination with this ship. As for your trip to the US, while we would love to have you visit, I wouldn't reccomend it until the pandemic subsides for real here. Not the premature re-opening we are doing now. Thanks again , and keep up the great work. Brian Nicholas
@animal16365
@animal16365 4 жыл бұрын
Q&A Could you go into some detail about the evolution of cooking on warships from the age of sail to WW2?
@didnothing2308
@didnothing2308 4 жыл бұрын
"police helicopter flies over* drach sprints towards his basement in an attempt to not get caught.
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 4 жыл бұрын
Wargaming and Gaijin doesn't like people being critical of "Sekret documents"
@dropdead234
@dropdead234 4 жыл бұрын
It's very nearly a crime, being an intelligent person.
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure his CAP dealt with it.
@Foxttellio
@Foxttellio 4 жыл бұрын
*the bodies are nextdoor!*
@andyf4292
@andyf4292 4 жыл бұрын
@Skodaman2 i used to purposefully seek em out and RPG em
@pattonfordo
@pattonfordo 4 жыл бұрын
Weekly Stress Relief has arrived, Thanks Drach!
@seavee2000
@seavee2000 4 жыл бұрын
As always-"THANK YOU"
@yalelingoz6346
@yalelingoz6346 4 жыл бұрын
I think all the proposed changes sound good. Go for it Drach
@YYCRS
@YYCRS 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, in regards to longer content 5 hrs long and so on . I for one love them and look forward to having possibly two days of drydock or another long video format if I cannot watch it all in one day. Thank you so much for the great content .
@kamiladankowska5145
@kamiladankowska5145 4 жыл бұрын
Another good Drydock :) It is amazing how much time and effort you give to make this channel. Thank you for that, you are the best! Also: it would be awesome to meet you in Gdańsk when you came to see our Błyskawica :) Fingers crossed you can do that this year or another :) Also also: please, take care of your voice. It should be UKs national treasure ;) But seriously, I'm formal choir singer and I know how tiring it is to talk/sing for a few hours. Remember about proper humidity in your studio (I guest it's easy in UK ;) ) and hydration, maybe try flaxseeds (it helped me a lot during long rehearsals). I guess you know what you are doing, but sometimes your voice sounds really tired. Please, take care and thank you again for your awesome work!
@John-ru5ud
@John-ru5ud 4 жыл бұрын
Admiral Sturdee was quite competent. He would have been just fine at Jutland. First, he would have fired Seymour immediately! Second, he would have let Jellico know what was happening. Third, he would have met with the commander of the Fifth Battle Squadron before sailing.
@iansadler4309
@iansadler4309 4 жыл бұрын
The worst effect (perhaps) of Sturdee's success at the Falklands (bear in mind if Luce hadn't kept on at him he'd not have arrived in time for the battle) as that Churchill attempted to repeat the trick of sending an unpopular admiral, Tom Philips, to command Force Z.
@John-ru5ud
@John-ru5ud 4 жыл бұрын
@@iansadler4309 Had Luce not gotten Strudee to sail a day earlier, von Spee would have raided the Falklands, and then been met by Sturdee's force coming south. Same result, a day later. Force Z was only one of the many mistakes that Churchill made playing admiral.
@iansadler4309
@iansadler4309 4 жыл бұрын
@@John-ru5ud Not sure it's a maater of "would have met". Pre-radar and pre air recce there's a lot of Atlantic for Spee to lose himself in.
@iansadler4309
@iansadler4309 4 жыл бұрын
But you are dead right about Churchill. The story goes that his signal "Winston's back" was regarded as a warning by many in the fleet.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
I listen to the drydocks with great enjoyment.
@FortuneZer0
@FortuneZer0 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my Is that a new feature? Segmented and subtitle for the videos? Very nice.
@RelativeGalaxy7
@RelativeGalaxy7 4 жыл бұрын
While I generally agree with your conclusions about Admiral Sturdee, I don't particularly see him being a marked improvement over Beatty at Jutland. Regarding his performance at the Falklands, he did a fairly good job however, I don't necessarily see that as some kind of showcase of his skills. He was essentially handed the opposite of what happened to Cradock, he was given a fairly comprehensive squadron even before he was allowed to take the pair of battlecruisers along for the ride. Operating two massively superior ships in the exact kind of engagement they were designed for gave relatively predictable results. Even at that point, I don't see his actions making him a more than baseline competent squadron commander given he competently maneuvered a relatively small group of ships. I honestly think Sturdee would have done worse at Jutland than Beatty, mainly because Sturdee was generally regarded as a "loose cannon" within the Admiralty and was not trusted with any large ship formations by Jellicoe and even Fisher . Jellicoe was horribly worried that Sturdee would break off from the main battleline and order a vague split up attack, effectively squandering any numerical advantage and a concentration of firepower the Royal Navy held over the HSF. This was the main reason Fisher absolutely loathed Sturdee, not so much because of any technological development differences, it was over doctrine. Sturdee absolutely adored independent and split force actions, trying to envelop his enemy. Fisher (and to a degree the rest of the Admiralty) hated this tactical mindset with burning fury. In their eyes, this was looking Britain's large numerical advantage and well trained large fleet management skills in the eye and throwing this away, neglecting their concentration of firepower advantage and allowing them to fight on equal or unequal footing against their German counterparts. "It was constantly present in my mind how any individual action of mine in the centre of the very long line could help the action, but I was painfully aware that I was powerless to move out of the line." - Sturdee at Jutland "In regard to Sturdee, I should never feel safe with him in command of the most important squadron leading the vanguard... I am very sorry to say that I do not trust his judgement in tactical questions. I feel very strongly about this and I know that other flag officers hold the same views" - Admiral Jellicoe In the historical Jutland as you stated, Jellicoe was well aware of Sturdee wanting to break out into smaller forces and pursue the Germans, so he had placed Sturdee's division in the middle of the battle fleet, rather than one of the wings: "He did not trust the renegade admiral not to try something along the lines of a split deployment." Honestly, placing him in charge of the battlecruiser squadron is pretty much the worst possible outcome in my eyes; Part 2 in the comments here.
@RelativeGalaxy7
@RelativeGalaxy7 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly knowing Sturdee, he would have found a way to get even more of the battlecruisers lost. For all of his flaws, Beatty atleast kept his ships roughly together and moving back towards the Grand Fleet when the time came. Sturdee effectively squanders his advantage of perhaps a competent flags officer and even potentially bringing along the QE squadron over Beatty just by being unreliable and likely overly aggressive. The battlecruiser squadron itself might naturally fall apart if Sturdee does something 5th dimentionally stupid like ordering independent action. As far as Sturdee is concerned, I think he is a competent enough officer when put in charge of small flotillas such as what he was given at the Falklands, any larger or more capable and his eyes start to sparkle with possibilities and he starts chanting "Jeune École" as he barrels off into the sunset. I tend to trust Jellicoe's personal judgement in this case and barring an Admiral to a position where they can actually be trusted not to ruin the engagement is extremely telling of how Sturdee was held in Jellicoe's mind.
@coreystockdale6287
@coreystockdale6287 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the hard work sir. Sending love from the queens most loyal member of the commonwealth 🇨🇦🇨🇦
@linnharamis1496
@linnharamis1496 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the Drydock segments - I have listened to the 5 hour epics to completion. However, if you can cut back the 5 hour epics that is fine with me - you need to have a life. Thanks for the work you do on all the naval - technology history videos.👍
@nicholasresar
@nicholasresar 4 жыл бұрын
On one hand, I can see what you mean about having a U-boat in Munich. On the other though, there are two submarine museums on Lake Erie, which is the shallowest of the great lakes.
@peternickle1884
@peternickle1884 4 жыл бұрын
Saoirse Ewing TBF, Batfish has gone on excursions at least twice when the Mississippi flooded
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson 4 жыл бұрын
There is a complete Oberon class submarine preserved a long way inland at Holbrook, half way between Melbourne and Sydney in Australia.
@robertmarsh3588
@robertmarsh3588 4 жыл бұрын
Whew, thought you weren't posting today and was starting to get worried for you!
@chemputer
@chemputer 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he had corona'd :(
@KR4FTW3RK
@KR4FTW3RK 4 жыл бұрын
from now on I will refer to 2nd gen. super dreadnoughts as poorly hidden compensation devices
@insignificantgnat9334
@insignificantgnat9334 4 жыл бұрын
Freudnauts?
@frankhoeppel2314
@frankhoeppel2314 4 жыл бұрын
An easy Q&A because I bet you’ve covered it previously - I have heard several mentions of the refit Hood would have undergone, but I do not remember hearing specifics. Was the plan for Hood’s refit documented, or is it just assumed it would have seen QE or Renown levels of effort?
@alecblunden8615
@alecblunden8615 4 жыл бұрын
Hood was special - the darling of the public. Any refit - providing she could be spared, which was not the case in. the prewar period- would have been as least as good as Valiant.
@michaeloboyle8798
@michaeloboyle8798 4 жыл бұрын
The patreon drydocks are my favorite thing ever. I understand though. It makes sense.
@harryparmley1193
@harryparmley1193 4 жыл бұрын
13:00 Comparison with using a Titanic-sized liner and a battleship... Love to see the difference in the amount of even simple steel, not to mention armored steel... incredible...
@sawyerawr5783
@sawyerawr5783 4 жыл бұрын
what's interesting to me about the Jutland in another year question is that it sort of, kind of nearly happened: after the raid on Yarmouth the entire High Seas Fleet nearly blundered into I believe 10 heavy units of the Grand Fleet--from memory it was the battlecruisers with one of the BB squadrons (I forget which one) accompanying. this was actually the exact kind of fight that the fleet wanted but they turned away from battle. now there's an engagement I'd love to see war gamed, then have some "what-ifs-tory" done to see how the knock-on effect would've been.
@ploegdbq
@ploegdbq 4 жыл бұрын
00:09:10 Ya know, there's a reason why, in the movie *Young Frankenstein*, the horses go nuts whenever they hear "Blucher".
@geoguy001
@geoguy001 4 жыл бұрын
I could see Hitler naming an H-39 Freideich der Grosse cause he was a fan.
@DimoB8
@DimoB8 4 жыл бұрын
How about KMS King Kong
@dropdead234
@dropdead234 4 жыл бұрын
KMS NoI"mnotcompensating
@christophpoll784
@christophpoll784 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why they used the 105mm (and 128mm later planned) for AA only. It has been (in general) a surface gun. Same with the 150mm guns: why not add a higher elevation and add sole AA-Rounds to it? I mean, rate of fire would have been awful, but at least it contributes a bit to the AA-defense. But, as with the SMS Nassau... "Hey, everyone is building ships without a huge array of secondaries!" "Shaddafaggup! Why should we do that?!?! We build a dreadnought, but the old fashioned way!" But for the armor scheme:I think you said it earlier, that british fuse time was quite short. So by slowing the shell down with a medium-size armor plate (60 to 120mm) and initiating the fuse early, it will not travel far into the ship. Also, this mixed armor does work very well against... well everything up to 203mm (8 inch) I guess. Compare that to the german guns:high velocity, slightly longer fuse time (sometimes up to infinity....). In that case a mixed armor scheme would be even more dangerous, slowing the shells down, initiating the fuse and then travelling far into the ship.
@washingtonradio
@washingtonradio 4 жыл бұрын
In WWI and WWII which admirals would you be willing to foist on your enemy because of their incompetence to improve your chances of winning? I am looking for the major powers during each war.
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 4 жыл бұрын
From the UK Beatty, Beatty and perhaps Beatty. Preferably with his flag lieutenant in tow. Followed at a respectable distance by Jackie Fisher as in his dotage he became very obsessed with a daft idea of high speed lightly armoured floating bombs called either “battlecruisers” or “large cruisers”.
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Lozier - Admiral Lütjens to the Brits & Admirals Nagumo & Kurita to the Americans.
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 4 жыл бұрын
@@TraditionalAnglican Kurita doesn't deserve mention here; his choice to retreat at Samar was far more sound than usually assumed (and in hindsight even more so as we know he couldn't have accomplished his mission anyways). I'd opt for Yamamoto instead due to his tendency for overcomplicated and often self-contradictory plans, though foisting him on the Americans does have the issue of giving the Americans the idea of massed carrier strikes earlier than historically.
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican 4 жыл бұрын
Bk Jeong - Yamamoto had to do much of the planning he did because of the war between the IJA & the IJN. Even if the Army & Navy hadn’t been at war with each other, Yamamoto still would have had very little margin of error. I don’t think the primary objective of stopping the invasion could have been achieved even if ALL of the Japanese would’ve shown 4 days earlier. So, the best he could have hoped for is to have destroyed the ships supporting the invasion, disrupted the supply chain to the beach & inland & made the invasion of the Philippines cost us so much that we started considering negotiating for peace. That was the opportunity that Kurita lost by mishandling his fleet such that he ended up having to withdraw. I think it’s reasonable to ask Japanese naval planners if that objective would’ve been worth the sacrifice of Kurita & his fleet.
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 4 жыл бұрын
@@TraditionalAnglican Even accounting for the extreme rivalry in the Japanese armed forces, Yamamoto's plans didn't make much sense in a larger view given that Americans modified War Plan Orange in the 1930s into a prolonged campaign of attrition, basically letting the Japanese overextend until American industrial capacity became overwhelming-which was the exact trap Yamamoto fell into by striking PH and opting for a swift expansion. How do you destroy the ships supporting the invasion when the soldiers and the first wave of cargo are already ashore and heading inland? In theory you could wait until the next wave of supply vessels show up, but in that time Seventh Fleet or worse, the American fleet carriers would probably show up and kill off Centre Force.
@blogsblogs2348
@blogsblogs2348 4 жыл бұрын
The home dash grand fleet would have large numbers of pre dreadnaught battleships available.. But would still be a close thing.... Have wargamed out... Both sides tend to lose a lot of units.... Then Britain rearms quicker
@siddhaantsingh8512
@siddhaantsingh8512 4 жыл бұрын
More play by play hypothetical battles please
@Mree17
@Mree17 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content especially during the World of Warships VE Day stream.
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant intros....just brilliant.
@roberthill8053
@roberthill8053 4 жыл бұрын
You should come visit the USS Edson in Bay City, Michigan.
@margusgrenzmann3977
@margusgrenzmann3977 4 жыл бұрын
I just have thank you for your efforts.
@margusgrenzmann3977
@margusgrenzmann3977 4 жыл бұрын
I personally love the drydocks especially.
@michaelmccarthy4615
@michaelmccarthy4615 4 жыл бұрын
Love the introduction jingle! Very nautical and I want to steam ahead into the discussion!
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 4 жыл бұрын
"Megadreadnought".... now there's a movie I'd pay to see...
@dropdead234
@dropdead234 4 жыл бұрын
Superultramegagrandmydad'sbiggerdreadnought
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 4 жыл бұрын
@@dropdead234 :D
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 4 жыл бұрын
@@saoirseewing4877 "Megadreadnought 3: the Coming of the Carrier"
@dropdead234
@dropdead234 4 жыл бұрын
@@saoirseewing4877 So, a megadreadnought, in a short skirt?
@Zaprozhan
@Zaprozhan 4 жыл бұрын
Megadreadnought vs. Sharknado?
@darrenandthetimewasters9504
@darrenandthetimewasters9504 4 жыл бұрын
After Jutland , at what point did the British make changes to their ammunition handling? Also when did the improved shells start being issued?
@Darkhstarr
@Darkhstarr 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of ships far from the sea, Omaha, Nebraska's Freedom Park has 2 US Navy ships drydocked as exhibit. Minesweeper USS Hazard, & the submarine USS Marlin.
@pierowmania2775
@pierowmania2775 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on United States Destroyer Escorts? I'm very interested in them as my grandfather was captain of both the USS Hopping (before her conversion in an APD) and the USS Williams.
@karlvongazenberg8398
@karlvongazenberg8398 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the weekly dose of drydock :) Coffee on!
@mikelinley8703
@mikelinley8703 4 жыл бұрын
They Reach. If you're looking for a tour of a German u-boat take a look at u-505 in Chicago. There's also a pair of American fleet subs nearby on Lake Michigan. It'd be a good way to get some points with your fans in the flyover states.
@mikelinley8703
@mikelinley8703 4 жыл бұрын
*Hey Drach. Damn autocorrect.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 4 жыл бұрын
Why couldnt the Bismarck's heavy AA engage surface targets?
@witeshade
@witeshade 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly i'm happy that you're separating out the alternate history stuff. That material is interesting, and I like your take on things, but it always feels like those sections always sit really heavily in the middle of otherwise historical discussions.
@snorri0411
@snorri0411 4 жыл бұрын
Little bit of feedback on the new livestream feedback - that kind of means that people that come into the stream, say, five minutes after the start instantly go overboard because either they miss tons of context for what I imagine would be a quite lengthy answer to the initial topic, or they rewind to the start of the stream and thus arent live...
@Grulf
@Grulf 4 жыл бұрын
I got more dumb questions. Didn't the Royal Navy had a thing they use to say like "The navy is here" or sum thing like that. Meaning sort of "We are dune talking" or "the rescue is here" depending what side your on. Do they still use that?
@daveriddell3704
@daveriddell3704 4 жыл бұрын
Why the criticism of Bismarck’s secondaries when Richelieu is very similar but never gets mentioned?
@scottgiles7546
@scottgiles7546 4 жыл бұрын
One of the more interesting battles that never happened was when Tirpitz and escorts sailed against convoy PQ 17 in June of 1942. It is one I could not predict the likely out come as there are too many unknowns. All three battleships were new and I do not know how skilled and trained the crews were. I do not know what the seas were at the time or how well USS Washington could handle them. I do not know how well the Royal Navy and USN were integrated. Then there is the question of how, when and where the battle would take place. Yet still it interests me. Has anyone done a proper war gaming of this?
@timstatler7714
@timstatler7714 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any occurrence of a battleship's main gun fire hitting an attacking airplane, and what happened to the plane?
@MartinCHorowitz
@MartinCHorowitz 4 жыл бұрын
If you can schedule Cakifornia in April, I can get you into Yir's Night Los Angeles (party with a space shuttle and astronauts) and maybe Disneytland. Remember to add the Quuen Mary and Lane Victory to your California tour.
@lordadmiralclanker2132
@lordadmiralclanker2132 4 жыл бұрын
Why did the naming of US carriers change from cities to presidents and war heroes
@BrigadierBill
@BrigadierBill 4 жыл бұрын
Most carriers with city-names were named after battles that happened to be fought there; cruisers were the ones that were just named after cities. Carriers also had a history of unusual names, with many like Essex and Ranger pulling names from old sail warships that didn't fit the regular naming conventions for other US warships, while president-names were initially influenced largely by presidents that were previously in the navy. The USN also pulled battle-names for its missile cruisers towards the end of the Cold War, even though that didn't last too long, and its amphibious assault ships (basically light carriers crossed with troop transports) still use battle names in the regular fashion.
@John-ru5ud
@John-ru5ud 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrigadierBill Original carrier named Langley, after the (supposed) inventor of the first machine capable of flight. Lexington and Saratoga named after battles, because they were laid down as battle cruisers. Ranger, Yorktown, Enterprise, Hornet, Wasp and first group of Essex class carriers were named after famous naval ships. Then they went to battles. Naming ships after Presidents started with the Franklin D. Roosevelt (Midway class) but did not become the "rule" until the Nimitz class (after the name ship). Exceptions in the Ford class are the new Enterprise (there will always be an Enterprise in the US Navy) and the Dorie Miller.
@AtomicBabel
@AtomicBabel 4 жыл бұрын
USN Carrier names are for battles, famous ships and great LEADERS. Destroyers are named for HEROS, e.g. Congressional Medal of Honor recipients. That is until CVN81, which I strongly disagree with, and will now hold my hat on my heart and move on.
@John-ru5ud
@John-ru5ud 4 жыл бұрын
@@AtomicBabel I concur. This doesn't follow the "rule". Forgot about that one. And no future politicians, please - let's get rid of the Stennis.
@AtomicBabel
@AtomicBabel 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, and the earlier exception to the "rule", USS Shangri-La CV38. USN had more Essex Class than names :)
@samuelharnden9641
@samuelharnden9641 4 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about putting the extended scripts on patron? After the video is posted you could pot rhe extra script there.
@joekuncl3443
@joekuncl3443 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Explode! Museum?
@MrFb911
@MrFb911 4 жыл бұрын
totally agree with the High Seas Fleet's chances being highest in 1914 and then going down more and more
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 4 жыл бұрын
Possible new German Battleship names, looking into "recent" German heros: Vorbeck, yes, Hindenburg or maybe Ludendorf (but that might be controversial). I could also see Hilter reaching back into the Teutonic order for something from their long lineage of Grand Masters: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Master_of_the_Teutonic_Order He loved that stuff, after all.
@gregorylaporte9139
@gregorylaporte9139 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in hearing more about uss r14
@nickierv13
@nickierv13 4 жыл бұрын
31:20 Drydock procurement, Drachinifel edition
@andyhines9070
@andyhines9070 4 жыл бұрын
"Captain Small, you are being given command of our newest Poorly Hidden Compensation Device- That's it. We're going back to calling them Battleships."
@brianwillson3565
@brianwillson3565 4 жыл бұрын
I propose that the battleships equipped with 15-16'' guns should have been referred to as Super Duper Dreadnaughts.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
I have a nagging habit of leaving my external speakers on while recording video, while I perform one take to print music for reposting to FB and elsewhere. Also, my apartment furnace is very loud . . .something it likes to remind me of in the middle of my recording music and/or blogs. So I backtrack after the fact, turn down the thermostat, turn off my speakers . . . insult myself a time or two for intransigence . . . and I'm good to go. Having wasted otherwise perfect attempts . . . grrr . . . ;-)
@ClimptheGreat
@ClimptheGreat 4 жыл бұрын
Love the dry docks but I don’t think I’ve finished a five hour one yet
@DFWTF
@DFWTF 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Drac,love you're videos and documentaries on ships of all nations, can you do a video on types of camouflage on ships and why everyone used them or not and if they work as attended? Thanks from usa
@Loweko1170
@Loweko1170 4 жыл бұрын
Re Super-Dreadnoughts, Mega-Dreadnoughts, etc...I liked the term coined by a friend on IRC. "ICan'tBelieveIt'sNought".
@piperpa4272
@piperpa4272 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting money from Norwegian. And thanks for the drydocks, I do enjoy them immensely.
@grumpypersian2543
@grumpypersian2543 3 жыл бұрын
Was the range finder aboard the King George V better than that aboard the Bismarck? Were the gunners on KG V better than those on the Bismarck? If so, why did the Brits score only 400 out of 2800 shots fired? This is slightly better than 14%.
@Lazarus7000
@Lazarus7000 4 жыл бұрын
24:30~ shit even something like the _Kongo_ post-refit people can't seem to decide are they battleships or battlecruisers!
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