The Dutch Army Canteen, Cup and Pouch Review and Demo.

[@Veldvaardigheden]

Hi John . I am glad you like the kit and the meal you shared with Scott .The kit was standing unused in my garage but I think it is now in the right place . Thanks for mensioning my channel 😊 Again an awesome review and it was nice to watch . Take care and see you in the next one . Greets from the Netherlands !

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thank you so much again for sending that package. It will give me years of enjoyment! I haven't been on here very much lately. Sorry about late reply. See you on your next video!

[@AquaTech225]

Where can one of these be found anywhere?

[@cthulhu6697]

@@AquaTech225 Verestulekka.com ( a surplus site in Finland that sells tons of surplus ) has them, as well as lots of really good gear of the military services of many countries around the world. A lot of American surplus is expensive compared to what it goes for here, since they ship around the world and U.S. military gear is foreign surplus to them, I guess. You can find some really good deals on European, Russian, and various world military gear that would cost a lot more here on Amazon, E-Bay, etc....... Shipping from Finland can be expensive but worth it if buying a lot or find something like that European military ruck you've been looking for more than 10 years for $150 U.S. that costs more than 300 here, for example. Their customer service is excellent and they are a great company to deal with

[@hughhughp68]

The closure on the pouch is called Spanish tabs. The top one you feed into the closure bracket first and then feed in the smaller tap. This locks the pouch firmly closed.

[@rtk_omar278]

Ohhh ok

[@geraldross5180]

I’m starting to curse you. I’ve watched numerous episodes of your demos and now you have me starting to collect them. LOL

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Lol! My wife thinks I have a problem. I told her I can stop anytime I want! Thanks for watching my channel!

[@jacksonteller1337]

Until a few years ago it used to say KL (Royal Army), KLu (Royal Air force) and so on plus the year. But they are now using the same stuff everywhere so they changed it to Ministerie Van Defensie. We are probably going to end up with the DFP camouflage soon but they are now in temporary use due to a mistake during tendering.

[@jobygochoco2731]

I read somewhere before as a Scout that if you have odd sized canteen cups...you turn them around on the canteen cup stove so they don't sit low and into the stove...sort of like 2 jelly beans in opposing orientation...

[@frankalvarez7387]

Just got my canteen today on the cup has a marking RI 94 and the bottle has a 14 cleaned up the set nicely and got my noodles watching the video right now lol The cup i got has tighter handles they dont move on their own compared to the one you have. Thank you for inspiring me to get i really like it actually!

[@Valerifon1]

I really appreciate and enjoy your videos John. Not only did you go through this excellent kit, but then you took us into the field for a demonstration - very cool! I purchased my first German WW2 surplus mess kit today - I can't wait to get it! Thanks very much! Cheers - Luther

[@Trailtraveller]

The dutch canteencups comes in 3 different sizes, I believe (from memory) 1950-1969, 1970-1990, 1991 - current. Just slightly different in size (wide) a few millimeters. So covers can fit one size but not the other.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Trailtraveller I have seen Dutch Army cups listed in different sizes but I wasn’t sure if they were authentic or listed properly because their appearance. Thanks for the information and for watching my video!

[@ellanvanninbushcraft8388]

Hello, I think you need to buy the 58 pattern water bottle set with the crusader mug. The Heavy cover lid, fits perfectly on the mug. Craig.🇮🇲🇮🇲🇮🇲

[@marcusfranconium3392]

ITs incredible as they come up with new types every few years, i had 4 different ones in 9 years time and that was in the navy , where we hardly use them ,

[@lp5913]

Hi John, the 1 liter stainless steal Nalgene bottle together with a gsi nesting cup fits perfectly too! I have seen video's of similar waterbottle pouches, however such a nesting cup barely fits or are hard to get out. Bought mine for a tenner years ago with a different closure, jalous of yours, and still serves me well. Great video!

[@Lettusfarm]

Never thought I'd hear someone worry about water getting wet😂

[@martinadejaquiz2482]

very nice kit, john. real nice look at the MRE too! nice of mr martin too. really enjoyed & thumbed-up! thank you!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thank you very much for watching another one of my videos! You always have nice comments and thumbs up!

[@Scoutforlife]

Looks like what they call "all day breakfast" .i like the canteens and cups.yr having great weather looks like peace.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thanks for watching another one! Been watching your videos on my TV for the last month but I haven't commented because my TV doesn't have that function and been too busy to remember to comment when I get on my computer. Lol. I'm working too much! See you in the next one!

[@chiosmet]

Thank you John for the nice video .Messing with stoves I found that a setup with a svea swedish army stove with the original swedish windsheild with a conjuction of an M59 german cup is my preffered go to kit.Although I like the simplicity of this kit. But the mentioned above kit is absolutely bulletproof.You can switch to wood if you run out of meths and you can sterilize water if neeeded from placing the canteen directly over the fire. Keep those good videos coming. Already subscribed.

[@tk7263]

Another great, informative video as always. I know you won’t have this problem in Florida but this past winter I used my LMF spork in single digit weather and snapped it right in half.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Oh boy... You're right. The weather doesn't get that cold here. Thank God! I would suggest the titanium one but I bet that one isn't nice to use in cold weather either. Thanks for watching my video and for your comment!

[@kurtsteiner8384]

That other stove looks like a british army type flat stove new version, the older type were taller use solid or fire drago of hexomine tabs.

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

I know it was a hot day and all but on a cooler day you could boil the pouch then use the water for coffee.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Yes, you are right. It was way too hot for coffee. Also, on this trip I wanted to use the cup a little more in the demonstration than just for boiling water. Thanks for watching my video!

[@gijr2003]

I got two "Dutch" cups from SMG years ago, has VDL 89 stamped on them. I use them for in house CCT.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

gijr2003 very nice. They are a well made piece of kit. Thanks for watching my video!

[@spanishunboxinromero6595]

Good job! Thanks for sharing,Paco

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thanks very much for watching!

[@spanishunboxinromero6595]

Thanks to you John!i am a really gastronómicamente bushcraft fellow! Thanks for your 6/19/2017 video about post WW2 Germán Styles mess kits,thanks for your magnífico video,i have learned very muchas about techical info.And Whats about the french sándwich?I wish you the BEST for you and Beloved people! regards,Paco Romero Martínez

[@jackdorsey4734]

When did they switch covers for U.S. canteen

[@JayM409]

Hello John, Nice video. I thought the number 17 on the canteen could be the NATO number for the Netherlands, until you showed the cup. The second sequence of numbers in the NATO stock number is country of origin. 00 or 01 = US, 99 = Great Britain, 21 is Canada, 12 is German, and 17 is obviously the Netherlands. The Dutch camo pattern is a direct copy of British DPM camo, which is the best camo patter ever. ;-)

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

jay harper Thanks for the info!

[@Leadfarmer337]

I hate those plastic sporks I had two break on me on a long hike in the desert. They were both brand new. I don't know if the cold had something to do with it, it was 29 degrees. In all of my packs I now use sea to summit titanium sporks I haven't had one break yet.

[@Leadfarmer337]

I figured I'd take two in case one broke well they both broke lol I had to use my knife the rest of the weekend out there

[@sirguy104]

Thanks for the comparison.

[@kuzgunbushcraft-vad7175]

Hi, is nalgene oasis canteen (or us plastic canteen) nest inside Dutch stainless steel cup nicely?

[@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival]

Looks like you figured out how to make my wire stove cup hangers! They work great right? I kind of like the smaller rig and wish the US MOLLE pouch had a cover like that...

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Yes they work very well. I hate it when the cup got stuck in the stove. I had them in a video back in a May 2016 Memorial Day video too. I didn't feature them but you can see them in use while the stove is in the fire. The Dutch rig is very nice for the size. I find its one I like to take along when I'm not featuring something else for a video. Take care! See you in your next video!

[@rodrigocappato4207]

Hi! Does the aluminum French army canteen fit in the Dutch army canteen cup?

[@Yougz-Music]

The french coocker is very efficient , cheap cheap price , and only 50gr lightweight. Easily adaptive with other country stuff

[@MTwoodsrunner]

Great overview demonstration as always John and you can have my portion!...LOL...taker easy my friend...atb...woods

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thanks again Woods for watching another one. My work has been keeping me busy so sorry for the delayed reply. Take care and we'll see you next time!

[@andrewjohnston4127]

Nice tip on the French cooker, I've been using one for the past year.they seem to be plentiful at the minute and cheap too,around £3.50 each. I use gel in mine as it burns better than the solid fuel tablets

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Very cool! I haven't tried gel yet. I bet it burns pretty clean. I might have to give it a test soon. Thanks for watching my video!

[@cthulhu6697]

What are the dimensions of this pouch ( height, width, and front to back ) in inches? I have found a good deal on them on a surplus site and online pictures and videos I've seen don't mention the dimensions. By the look, I'm thinking I can use them to fit 2 or ( fingers crossed ) 3 30 round AK-47 magazines each. It would be an affordable way to have some more extra mag pouches that are MOLLE compatible and have those nice Spanish buckles. Thanks

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Hello, the dimensions are 8 inches tall, 4.5 inches wide, and about 3.25 deep. This is with the top flap open and just measuring the pouch inside dimensions. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching.

[@cthulhu6697]

@@John-Sherwood-W4JFS Yes, thank you, sir. That does help and I believe the fabric will stretch/bellows enough to allow me to fit two, and perhaps even 3, 30 round AK-47/AKM magazines per pouch. With everything being so centered around the AR-15/M-16 here in America, it can be difficult and expensive to find and afford quality gear for the AK-47/AKM. I appreciate you taking the time to answer this, and I feel confident that I will be successful in this endeavor. I thank you again, have a good day.

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

I have a couple of these steel Dutch mugs. Held up ok after years of use. One of them has a problem, the plate holding the handles in place has come a little loose at one end. Still holds handles in, just. Bad weld perhaps. Any ideas how best to fix it? Have tried couple of things. A rounded bolt head on inside of mug with nut on outside tightened against the plate, then cut short is one idea for example. Solder, glue etc not ideal.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Nick Thorp Well, I guess the best solution is to find a good welder or welding shop and maybe he or she could tack it back in place for you. That might be a challenge depending on your contacts or where you live but that would be best in my opinion since you use it to eat with. Good luck. I hope you are able to fix it.

[@thomasbiel7741]

Good gear. Good review. Thank you.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thomas Biel Thanks for watching!

[@torsten4757]

maybe l´m wrong, but you can try to stick the smaller end from the closure tab/toggle thing thru the U shape buckle on the pouch. it´s little harder to open then, but that´s the purpose of this. better said it hold´s better close, it stays more secure, thats what l wanna say :-) this neat trick you can find on several nato-military-pouches. (far as l know, lm not any expert!) best regards from germany, Torsten

[@FiresideCoffee]

Hi John, I hope you are doing well. I’m going thru rewatching some of your videos and I was curious about this pouch. Do you know if this pouch would fit the Swiss M84 canteen and cup? I bought 4 of the M84’s after watching one of your videos and I love them. The size is perfect. Do you know of any canteen covers that fit the M84? Thank you

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Fireside Coffee sorry about the delayed reply. I got my M84 out and the pouch from this video. I believe it will fit but the flap might tight when closing it because of he gas mask attachment on the cap. The reason I don’t know exactly how it fits is my M84 is now vacuum packed in a bag with the lid off the canteen. I have to store some of my collection in the garage now and I didn’t want the Florida humidity to ruin them. But even with the canteen set in the vacuum bag, the set slides in nicely and looks like it would fit even with the cap on but I’m not 100% sure about how tight the flap would be. I hope this helps enough and thanks for watching!

[@FiresideCoffee]

That helps greatly! That is close enough for me. I’m thinking this will work. Time to buy one lol. Thank you for checking. God Bless

[@simonh6371]

There is a Dutch utility pouch in woodland cam, it has an extending part on the top with drawstring, it's too narrow for the Dutch canteen & cup - for that I have the proper Dutch pouch - but it does fit the M84 canteen and cup perfectly. The label says ''opbouwtas, algemeen, klein'' which means something like ''extendible pouch, general, small''. Apparently it's designed for the MOLLE vest.

[@FiresideCoffee]

@@simonh6371 awesome thank you!😊👍

[@dutchman2205]

Great review! But.. the Dutch army never issued a lit or a stove. The Dutch army issued a Esbit stove (for emergency, packed in the opsvest ) and an Coleman multi fuel stove

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Dutchman 2 Yes. I only added the French Army stove to show that it and the stainless reproduction stove by G.A.K. fits this canteen cup and pouch and it makes a great system together. Thanks for watching and for your comment!

[@dutchman2205]

@@John-Sherwood-W4JFS yes it does😀. Cool set up with the stove.

[@snaponjohn100]

I enjoyed it my friend. God bless. John

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thanks for watching John!

[@jim_9236]

Nice review! I recently purchased a surplus belgian army canteen,its exactly same as yours with the same label,with the difference that mine is made in 1969! Do you think it is safe to drink with that?

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

I would say as long as you clean and sanitize it well and the water tastes fine after being in there for a couple of hours, I would use it and enjoy it! If it doesn’t clean up well, it’s still good as a collection piece. Thanks for watching and for commenting!

[@PrimoStoker]

Have you seen the Keith TI canteen kit? What are your thoughts.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

I have not checked out that kit yet. Maybe someday I can. Thanks for watching and for your comment!

[@weschaffin]

New sub’er.

[@baroneb5043]

Nothing to do with your review, however if you are into camp cooking check out the “ Solo Stove “ if you’ve never heard of it... I’ve gone thru quite a few survival / bushcraft stoves by far the Solo beats them all... It has a proprietory design.. Nice review

[@imruggerpreppingwithimrugg9662]

Love it, thank you!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

IMRugger Prepping with IMRugger you’re welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@WORRO]

Good video Buddy!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thanks very much!

[@jelkel25]

Dutch post more reliable than the British! The one modern US style canteen pouch I have (though it was made in Europe) has a cover made out of waterproof material inside you pull up over the top of the canteen to stop dirt getting to it when needed, presumed they'd all be like that, live and learn! Got an old version of the Dutch canteen kit, almost indestructible. Just use a hexamine type stove with it, I think that's what the Dutch used to use, don't know what they use now.

[@jelkel25]

Said I'd put some of my kit on Instagram months ago, put a couple of knife photos up there to get my bad photography a little better. If kit collectors like yourself are interested, I'll start photographing that.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

jelkel25 It’s a shame that the package was lost. I just hope it ended up with someone who really needed it. This little set is pretty cool and I agree with you that it’s made very well. It’s perfect for a day hike in cool temps here in Florida. During the summer, I need more water so a larger canteen is best then for me. I hope all is well for you and your family and you have a Merry Christmas next month. Talk to you next time!

[@jelkel25]

@@John-Sherwood-W4JFS Thanks John, and a merry Christmas to you and yours!

[@biengabrielmanzares408]

I do not mean to be rude, but I can't hear your voice very well. But nevertheless great vids and God bless!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Sorry you were not able to hear it. I guess I should have turned up the volume during editing. Thanks for watching anyways.

[@biengabrielmanzares408]

No problem. God bless again!!

[@CoyoteRidge]

Enjoying your channel. Done a couple similar on my channel, hoping to expand my collection. Gave ya a sub brother.

[@АндрейШмырев-х8н]

,плитка, бундесвера покомпактнее будет....

[@rodrigocappato4207]

Hi! Do you know if the aluminium French canteen botle fits in the Dutch canteen cup?